I use this amp together with Darkglass Alpha Omicron and I absolutely love it. It's gritty but still a great pedal platform, and it sits very well in the mix with two high-gain guitars. But it does have its own specific sound that can't be tweaked much. So if you're looking for something extremely versatile, this amp is definitely not for you.
bflo1000 he’s using a jbass so that’s to be expected. I love gear gods but they have never done bass even slightly good aside from just making it another guitar.
It is not recommended to use any tube amplifier if it does not have a speaker or cabinet connected to it. If there is no speaker or load, the wattage generated by a tube amp is lost. You will damage your amplifier and cause the tubes and transformer to blow if you do this.
No, it's not even that it's not recommended, you *can't* run a tube amp without a load. Some amps have loads built in to protect it in case no speaker is connected, but you *will* destroy the output section of your amp if you don't give it a load. They're likely just using the output marked 'slave' to send a hot signal to the board while still connecting the amp to a speaker that isn't mic'd. Sadly, that is quite a disservice to this amp as the entire point of a high-wattage tube amp is to be run on stage with a real speaker.
“Turning the Bass down on a Bass amp, who would do that” - the AD200 has a Fender-style tone circuit, i.e. Bass and Trebler are boost only, Mids are cut only. So to have it flat you’d have to turn both Bass and Treble all the way down, Mids all the way up. So, technically, you're not turning down the bass at all when going left of the Noon position, you're just not boosting it as much. Everything set at Noon, and you'll have a (slight) frequency bathtub. It's the same with the Terror Bass btw, but not the Little Bass Thing or the Bass Butler. Those dials boost/cut.
I actually had to contact orange to confirm based on this head (I own one) what the flat position is, and they replied stating that the appropriate position is having treble, mid and bass ALL the way up. That's how they were designed. If you turned all three of them down, you will get no sound out at all, that's why the actual flat position is to turn them all the way up.
I figured there was a reason why the amp sounded so good with the bass turned down. It sounded a lot like some of the old bass tones i'd hear from Classic Rock bands growing up.
Can Orange even disappoint? You really highlighted the charm of bass tube amps. I recently featured my rare Italian amp in a video, and it's 50 years old this year. It has been a part of my gear for 4 years, and the sound quality it delivers is simply outstanding. It works well with every instrument I've tried. Transistor amps are great too, but they'll never really be my soft spot. Your video underscores the fact that these amps are truly underappreciated. Keep making great content!
Superlative Orange is simply Brilliant. My Rockerverb 50 is the Greatest Amp Around. I mean You know it’s good when you’ve rocked out for 6 hours and then you noodle around on the clean side with just the right amount of verb Endlessly. It just makes you wanna keep playing. It’s gritty and sounds like no other. On the Bass side I can’t wait to get my Stingray into one of these babies. Rock the Fxxx on !
Because contrary to popular belief, jazz and precision basses are not the only basses in existence and are played to death by pretty much everyone. It’s refreshing to see people using more contemporary types of basses. Not too long ago, that wasn’t really the case.
I've been running 3 tube amps lately. An 82 Bassman Ten (70Watt), the modern Bassman 100t, and the modern Super Bassman (300Watt). One thing I like about the modern Fenders is there's a vintage circuit. (they replaced the second channel (normal/bright) with a modern stack, with dual mid controls and gain, but I never use it) On both the Bassman Ten and 100t if I want some gain I just dig in. I don't use the 300watt Super for anything but outdoor shows where I want pure, big ass clean P bass tone. I really liked the idea of this head when I first saw it. (I'd say 4 6550s at 200watts is probably the closest you could get to a "one size fits all" head) Honestly, I'd have just pulled the gain out. Just run a line volume/master volume and three tone passive stack. Passive and Padded inputs with an XLR out.
I came here because I just read online that Geddy Lee uses this bass amp head. For the price I saw it selling for online, one pretty much has to be in a band like Rush in order to afford it. It looks like it's going to be solid state pre and post amps for poor me. 😕
I see a lot of comments saying that it sounds thin. I'm not gonna say the opposite, but rather explain why. He's using the DI out, which I think has built in cabsim, but is far from sounding like an IR. Therefore it's almost like playing the amp without a cab. Hope this helped
I’d like to try an AD200B one day. However, my Tech 21 GED-2112’s “Drive” channel gets “Crunch” identical to this Orange, and it’s “Deep” channel provides much fatter sounding low end.
Oh man, I know this amp sounds good...but I’m not a fan of what that guys bass did to the tone. Maybe use something more standard next time that compliments the rig. The guy seems really nice, just not this was the right route :/
I don't no if its the bass itself but this does not sound good now i no this is a very good head maybe use something not so hard on the treble side maybe more bass
Yeah_from my recollection of the Sabbath tune, I think Geezer does a hammer-on then a pull-off: sounds much more legado then the way he played it with two distinct notes.
Check out other demos of this amp. I prefer it to the SVT, but IMO it's overpriced. For ex, a Fender SB with tons more features is 3/4 the price of the AD200B.
This is a horrible ex because of the bass he's using and or possibly the settings. He may like a thin trebly sound usually associated with a J bass for slapping. For ballsy rock I actually prefer the Orange to an SVT because it has both more low end (even though you don't here it in this vid) and more gain; especially at low volume. But both the SVT and Fender SB are more powerful and better for the price.
This sounds like hot garbage. You should try this thing called a microphone. Instead of recording with your Iphone, You point a micophone towards your speaker cab, and now it doesn't sound like you tone is thiner than a tin foil.
I use this amp together with Darkglass Alpha Omicron and I absolutely love it. It's gritty but still a great pedal platform, and it sits very well in the mix with two high-gain guitars. But it does have its own specific sound that can't be tweaked much. So if you're looking for something extremely versatile, this amp is definitely not for you.
bruh that bass makes the AD200B sound so thin. Should of used a regular bass! I think your pick ups are way too hot on that kiesel bass.
I agree. A P-bass would have been better.
bflo1000 he’s using a jbass so that’s to be expected. I love gear gods but they have never done bass even slightly good aside from just making it another guitar.
Sounds like shit
@@sottoletna i play slap and i LOVE tubes. I have a passive MIM Jazz.
*should have, not should of
I have an AD200B running through an OBC410. It sparks a lot of joy 🤗
It is not recommended to use any tube amplifier if it does not have a speaker or cabinet connected to it. If there is no speaker or load, the wattage generated by a tube amp is lost. You will damage your amplifier and cause the tubes and transformer to blow if you do this.
No, it's not even that it's not recommended, you *can't* run a tube amp without a load. Some amps have loads built in to protect it in case no speaker is connected, but you *will* destroy the output section of your amp if you don't give it a load.
They're likely just using the output marked 'slave' to send a hot signal to the board while still connecting the amp to a speaker that isn't mic'd. Sadly, that is quite a disservice to this amp as the entire point of a high-wattage tube amp is to be run on stage with a real speaker.
“Turning the Bass down on a Bass amp, who would do that” - the AD200 has a Fender-style tone circuit, i.e. Bass and Trebler are boost only, Mids are cut only. So to have it flat you’d have to turn both Bass and Treble all the way down, Mids all the way up. So, technically, you're not turning down the bass at all when going left of the Noon position, you're just not boosting it as much. Everything set at Noon, and you'll have a (slight) frequency bathtub. It's the same with the Terror Bass btw, but not the Little Bass Thing or the Bass Butler. Those dials boost/cut.
I actually had to contact orange to confirm based on this head (I own one) what the flat position is, and they replied stating that the appropriate position is having treble, mid and bass ALL the way up. That's how they were designed. If you turned all three of them down, you will get no sound out at all, that's why the actual flat position is to turn them all the way up.
Glenn hughes turns the bass off on these. Best bass tone i have ever heard live
I figured there was a reason why the amp sounded so good with the bass turned down. It sounded a lot like some of the old bass tones i'd hear from Classic Rock bands growing up.
got a second hand AD200B top and OBC410 for 1100€ back in 2012, it's a better investment than expected :P
Can Orange even disappoint? You really highlighted the charm of bass tube amps. I recently featured my rare Italian amp in a video, and it's 50 years old this year. It has been a part of my gear for 4 years, and the sound quality it delivers is simply outstanding. It works well with every instrument I've tried. Transistor amps are great too, but they'll never really be my soft spot. Your video underscores the fact that these amps are truly underappreciated. Keep making great content!
On a passive amp, flat is not at noon for every knob. If I remember right, "flat" is bass and treble all the way down, and mid all the way up.
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clipping????
Nah, I think that's just the drive of the amp. Not stellar haha
@@Riffified r/whooosh
Superlative Orange is simply Brilliant. My Rockerverb 50 is the Greatest Amp Around. I mean You know it’s good when you’ve rocked out for 6 hours and then you noodle around on the clean side with just the right amount of verb Endlessly. It just makes you wanna keep playing. It’s gritty and sounds like no other. On the Bass side I can’t wait to get my Stingray into one of these babies. Rock the Fxxx on !
Awesome video. It's cool seeing the interaction of the treble control with the low end and how distortion effects the curve too. Awesome work 🤘
Nice amp own since 2012 in the shop every 6 months for repairs
had mine since 2012, no repairs
For a while there I thought I was going to get away with not hearing any slapping
4:30 sounded the best with that bass
I agree.
Why can’t these guys just use a simple bass like a p bass or a normal jazz bass JEEZ
because vintage look basses and amps >>> monsters.
Because contrary to popular belief, jazz and precision basses are not the only basses in existence and are played to death by pretty much everyone. It’s refreshing to see people using more contemporary types of basses. Not too long ago, that wasn’t really the case.
Are you trolling Fricker?
This amp VS Ampeg SVT Heritage classic. Go.
Vs super bassman
Bruh I think it's cuz you're playing direct out. There's no cabinet moving the room. That's why there's no lows.
Really like this amp been playing it a lot lately
I've been running 3 tube amps lately. An 82 Bassman Ten (70Watt), the modern Bassman 100t, and the modern Super Bassman (300Watt). One thing I like about the modern Fenders is there's a vintage circuit. (they replaced the second channel (normal/bright) with a modern stack, with dual mid controls and gain, but I never use it) On both the Bassman Ten and 100t if I want some gain I just dig in. I don't use the 300watt Super for anything but outdoor shows where I want pure, big ass clean P bass tone. I really liked the idea of this head when I first saw it. (I'd say 4 6550s at 200watts is probably the closest you could get to a "one size fits all" head) Honestly, I'd have just pulled the gain out. Just run a line volume/master volume and three tone passive stack. Passive and Padded inputs with an XLR out.
I came here because I just read online that Geddy Lee uses this bass amp head.
For the price I saw it selling for online, one pretty much has to be in a band like Rush in order to afford it. It looks like it's going to be solid state pre and post amps for poor me. 😕
Terror Bass is the same valve preamp with a 500w class D power amp.
I see a lot of comments saying that it sounds thin. I'm not gonna say the opposite, but rather explain why. He's using the DI out, which I think has built in cabsim, but is far from sounding like an IR. Therefore it's almost like playing the amp without a cab. Hope this helped
There’s no DI out on this amp. It only has the slave out which cuts out the power section.
What cab do you recommend with this? Does a 4x10 do it justice? I am wary of lugging anything around after doing time with an 8x10 in college
I’d like to try an AD200B one day.
However, my Tech 21 GED-2112’s “Drive” channel gets “Crunch” identical to this Orange, and it’s “Deep” channel provides much fatter sounding low end.
Looks heavy! Get an iRig AXE I/O AD200B
The essence of the Orange bass amp seems to be a good clipping sound.
If someone wants a good clean sound, they should buy a different amp.
you should do a a/b to the new bass terror
Love you! Cheers!
Trey Xavier from Santa Rosa ?? I played for a minute with you in Dirty Cello YEARS ago... - Mike
I can get the same Black Sabbath sound with the cheapest Korg processor for bass on the market, which i bought for 100$ and Squier P bass for 200$.
1:04 you're the only one.
Was that Electric Funeral?
yeah
Oh man, I know this amp sounds good...but I’m not a fan of what that guys bass did to the tone. Maybe use something more standard next time that compliments the rig. The guy seems really nice, just not this was the right route :/
The way its balancing on that stool is giving me major anxiety 😱
Dude you made that incredible amp sound like shit
He plays well enough and I like his style. But there's way too much clank and the bass needs a set up.
Dunno... maybe it’s the way you’re setting it but it really seems like the ob1 amp smokes this thing.
its the bass
No, other demos sound great w this amp.
nice
The voice of that bass is rly thin
Someone knows about the PRS amp giveaway?
Thank you for not playing the bass riff you always play in every bass video over and over. Helped me focus on what the gear was actually doing.
what is the riff in 1:40?
@@JamesSSWayne electric funeral by black sabbath
I love playing guitar out of the AD200
Is it clipping a bunch or does the gain just sound like that on this amp? I really dislike that crackle.
its the fresh strings and bass
Society Of Terror it’s clipping a shit ton
This with a Ricky 🤤🤤🤤🤤
Is that DaRoachDogg’s son?
I don't no if its the bass itself but this does not sound good now i no this is a very good head maybe use something not so hard on the treble side maybe more bass
Sabbath requires that face.
Yeah_from my recollection of the Sabbath tune, I think Geezer does a hammer-on then a pull-off: sounds much more legado then the way he played it with two distinct notes.
Youre playing electric funeral wrong, i thought you were playing relentless by pentagram at first
Sick amp ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Yea Electric Funeral
It did not sound clear or pure. To me it sounded muddy and farty with horrible definition.
Its the Kiesel bass I run my ad200B with a gibson Sg bass and a P bass and a custom jazz bass all passive. Sounds AMAZING full thicc tone
@@societyofterror9755 An SG or P-bass would make this amp sound just great.
Check out other demos of this amp. I prefer it to the SVT, but IMO it's overpriced. For ex, a Fender SB with tons more features is 3/4 the price of the AD200B.
Hmmmm I do not like it. And it’s so popular.
This is a horrible ex because of the bass he's using and or possibly the settings. He may like a thin trebly sound usually associated with a J bass for slapping. For ballsy rock I actually prefer the Orange to an SVT because it has both more low end (even though you don't here it in this vid) and more gain; especially at low volume. But both the SVT and Fender SB are more powerful and better for the price.
Demoing this bass amp without cabinets is a waste.
Eletric funeral!!
Can't wait for all the nerf herders to complain about you sticking it into the passive input 😂
One of my dream bass heads, pretty sure it doesn’t have a di out though
Nope, sure doesn't. There's ways around that.
Two Notes Captor will solve that problem.
This sounds like hot garbage. You should try this thing called a microphone. Instead of recording with your Iphone, You point a micophone towards your speaker cab, and now it doesn't sound like you tone is thiner than a tin foil.
I don't like your tone. This video makes me want to not buy an Orange. I dont like your bass at all.
I really want to like this amp. Its super bland
This amp likes regular basses much more not djenty tinny basses