BASE MODEL Vs TOP MODEL EMTB | Giant Reign E+1 Vs Giant Reign E+3 E Bike Upgraded
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BASE MODEL Vs TOP MODEL EMTB | Giant Reign E+1 Vs Giant Reign E+3 E Bike Upgraded
CUSTOM GIANT REIGN E+ SB
Giant Reign E+3 ( stock with the 800wh battery )
Shimano Deore 12-speed ( original )
Giant Contact Switch, dropper ( original )
RockShox Zeb Ultimate 2023 170MM 44 offset
RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil DH RC2 205x62.5
Schwalbe Magic Mary 29x2.4 Super DH Ultra Soft
Schwalbe Magic Mary 27.5x2.4 Super Gravity Soft
Quad Lock Mount
Hope Fortus 30 Pro Wheels with Red Hubs 110x15 12x148
Magura MT7 Yellow with Storm Rotors
Hope E Bike Cranks 155mm
Nukeproof Horizon Pro Sam Hill Enduro Pedal
Renthal V2 Riser Bars in Black 31.8 30mm rise
Spank Split Stem Read and Black 43mm in 31.8 - 71 euros
DMR Deathgrips Red
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Legend Riders what is going on? I hope you like this video on Top Model Vs Base Model upgraded just a little fun PS I used the dropper, seat and running gear from the original build, or don't see any point upgrading these parts
Very cool 😎.
Ultimate bike money no object in my opinion would be the blue frame (entry level)with-
Öhlins coil shock
Cascade link
Öhlins 38 or Fox 38 or new Zeb Ultimate
Industry 9 wheels and hubs
Shimano Saint brakes
AXS wireless seat post
AXS wireless shifting
The wireless mainly to clean up the cables.
Renthal stem and bars
Deity 50/50 grips.
Ergon S emtb seat
One up poly pedals
2.4 Schwalbe tires of course
Braking rotors or Hope rotors.
Hey Sam, after 1500km on the E+2 I've parted with it for a few reasons, bike spent more time in shop getting fixed than in my shed. I've since picked up a rail 9 as a replacement and couldn't be happier. I tried a coil with progressive spring but found I needed to run a lot of compression to make it not blow through the travel so no advange over air shock, float x was OK but couldn't keep up with the 29er Zeb and would get caught up over chunk. Personally, I'd think this bike would be better as a 29er f+r especially with the longer chainstays. Another thing if you own one make sure you seal thebattery/ motor skid plate cover as water just flows in there a very poor design, frame wrap it as paint is very thin and the bottom shock bolt like to come loose every few rides.
What year model?
Hey Sam ! Again your video is super useful ! I mentioned about your Reign test that I felt exactly the same sensations than your feedbacks. So same thing about pedal strikes. I'll check for shorter cranks. Might be useful.
Once again thanks for those cool ans teachy videos ! Chères from France. O degrees outside !
Just started riding my 2023 Giant Reign E+2. I love it.
Glad to hear you like the 155 cranks. I need a set for my Levo and I think the shorter cranks will be perfect.
I have the 2022 e+3 (Orange). I’ve made some upgrades but the one you chose that made me think was the shorter crank arms. I do get more pedal strikes than usual, even on High mode. What companies sell 155-160mm eMtb crank arms other than Hope? I have some beloved Hope hubs on another bike but sometimes their gear is hard to find in stock. Praxis makes a 160mm. Not sure who else.
Nice job Sam, I’ll do my dream build later on. Questions. You ride a large me a medium you 155 cranks me 150? Tires 2.4? I race the Ca Enduro Series 2.6 gives just that much more rubber and lift why tbe 2.4’s. I’m going with same RS coil but a bit concerned by match with maestro sus, rider wgt is 185lbs. Same fork. RaceFace vs Hope carbon I’ll pick one I want ride quality then durability your thoughts. Other than that you rock!! I’ll wait for your response I live in Lake Tahoe and we have 9’ of snow so far so I’m building over the next 2 months and practicing at a park in Reno.
Just got the 2024 E+1....totally sick. No need for upgrades.
Looking at the same bike myself.
Nice video, I did a similar exercise and found the e+2 a bit more interesting to work from as fewer components to change. One thing to look into: entry level rockshox forks can be modified with aftermarket compression circuits for around €300 which can be tuned to your weight and riding style, often ended up superior to even the ultimate version of the fork.
Hey mate thanks for your comment! Yes I knew about domain upgrade but seeing the domain is a 500€ forks I felt it would be easier just to sell it off and by the zebs.
greeting. what is the rebound knob approach? since the bottom part is in the recess in the frame? and above the knob is a spring plate! has anyone tried it?
Hi Sam, thanks for the video. Trying to decide on next bike to buy and would love your opinion between the carbon Trance e+ or an SL bike. Is the weight difference really noticeable on the trail? ie is an SL bike significantly more agile on the downhill or is the difference negligible?
Hey mate I think it all depends on who you are riding with? If you ride on your own a SL is a great option if you want to get fitter and have a more playful bike but you will struggle to keep up with the full powered ebikes.
Love the channel, which is a new find for me. We run mostly road cycling holidays in the Valencia mountains and I'd neglected my MTB riding for too long.
After getting some.inspiration, I just ordered a Mondraker Foxy R and my first ebike, a Reign e+3 2022. My last Reign was a 2008 X0 !
The new Reign arrives this week. Very excited.
Just wanted to say found and audience comments helpful.
I'll prob get the Charger 2.1 kit and upgrade the rotors and pads to sintered variations.
I'll look at handlebars when I've ridden more, but I think a 30mm stem and higher rise bar might be in order, in part to match the Foxy cockpit and account for my short height on Medium frame.
Keep up the good work and if you're in Valencia region, come and say hello. We're 3.5 hours from Madrid
Hey David thanks for the kinda words neighbor! I think I personally would upgrade the forks to zebs and just sell the domains just easier and probably cheaper. Let me know how you get on and if I’m down your way I’ll look you up. Thanks 🙏
@@SamsBikes I've no experience selling MTB kit in Spain. We've got a DH park nearby, so there's perhaps some interest in a Domain fork!
I have the +3 base model in Amber Glow (Root Beer).
This video has just got me thinking about some upgrades for my bike.
I really like Sam's choices apart from I'd swap out the Rockshox rear coil for a ttx Ohlins.
Interesting tyre size choice but 100% agree on Magic Mary's front and rear.
Interested to see what other riders might like.
Great Show Sam.
Hey Paul thanks for the kind words yes mate ohlins is a good call and for me 100% 2.4 tires for the win!
Do it. If you ride super gnar or like to send it, I recommend going 180mm up front and getting a 65mm stroke shock to up rear travel to ~166mm. Flip chip in high position to keep it feeling balanced. I did this on my bike, and it feels amaaazing.
Why would you run front MM with DH casing and rear SuperGravity? BTW cant find any ultra soft MM in super-gravity 29x2.4...
Because MM in Ultra Soft is only available in super DH or super trail
Hi Sam, Thanks for the video. As a Giant retailer it's good advert for us and for our customers. :) I'm using now the Reign E+ 2 model and I like it a lot. My colleague just started to use the 3rd model. Have you known that Giant Reign E+ bikes have the larger 1.8" Tapered forks since 2022? If you wish to replace them to 1.5" tapered forks you will need an adapter between the steerer tube and crown race.
Hey Peter thanks for the kind words! The reign is a beast of a ebike I love mine and thanks for the heads up on the forks I’ll add that details to the show notes
Yep, I called FSA directly and ordered a crown race adapter from them.
Just got the +3 and order the zeb and coil rc2T
I've got a 2022 Reign E+ 3 in Amber Glow. I've already swapped out the Domain fork for the current Zeb Ultimate Charger 3 with 180mm of travel. I've also replaced the shock with a Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil RC2T but went with a longer stroke (65mm) to get an extra ~6mm of rear travel. This bike feels soooo good with these suspension upgrades and flip chip in high position. It's an absolute gnar beast. I've now basically got a Reign SX E+!
Next up is a brake upgrade. Will probably go with Shimano XTs
does longer stroke work fine? rear wheel does not hit the frame?
@@wujektimon1 Works just fine, there's sufficient clearance. No rear wheel or frame-to-frame contact. I had first tried it without the spring and fully compressed the rear.
Hello, do you recall what shock tune you got for the rockshox super deluxe?
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Hi Sam, my reign E+2 should be here in a month, I have a DVO coil shock & DVO coil converted fork, Wheel Works carbon set with Magic Mary’s & code rsc’s ready & waiting In the shed
Can’t wait to start riding it
Oh dude thar sounds epic send us a photo on Instagram might need to start ewhip of the week again
@@SamsBikes I’ll do that as soon as she’s built mate, cheers very much & keep up the great content
why didnt they bring out a new E+ 0 for 2023 ? is the 2022 version better than the E+ 1 2023 ?
Hi Sam, and ebikers! The reign e+ is a great bike. I saw a possible problem is the upgrade recommendation, which I want to share, or think about it. Giants maestro suspension is designed to use with an air shock only. The leverage ratio is so optimised, that the maestro calculates the ramp up and end progression of an air shock. That is the reason why there is no coil option from the factory.
My concern as well. I want the plushness as I ride in the mountains and mostly enduro and DH tracks. 1 option a MRP progressive spring my rider wgt 185.
I run a DVO Jade X with a progressive coil on my Trance MTB. Works well. Giant has released variants of the Reign MTB over the years with coil and maestro. Maestro isn't necessarily incompatible with coil shocks.
what about the shifters?
Excellent video done exact same thing with my Cube HPC 160
Thanks mate! Did you make it mullet?
@@SamsBikes no mate…..did think long and hard about that…so here’s the list of upgrades:
Ergon grips, Zee breaks (like the bite), spank Vibro 800x30 bar and spank stem, lyriks fork was 160 upgraded to 170 travel, Rockshox deluxe ultimate, Shimano pedals (thinking changing to Sam Hill) MM front rear MM on Cushcore and on Raceface rims and hope4 hubs, ice tech 203 front 180 rear disc, hope 155 crank, AXS dropper, ergon seat, AXS GX 12 speed (nice clean cockpit) GX cassette. Loving the set up and feel have to send a pic to you.
Sounds like a beast send us a photo over at Instagram
Just looked at buying a quad lock mate.
There are 2 types !! Any favourite?
Hey mate I love the out the front mount paired with the new MAG CASE.
Hi Sam.
Maybe you could do review of some magnetic pedals like magped or hustle? I know that many emtb riders don't want to go for clipless (like myself) so that could be useful?
Great suggestion let’s see if I can get some
E prendere la 2 ed upgrade le zeb?
I have the have the 2022 +3 base model in Amber Glow love the colour added some mucky nutz frame protection to make it mine love the viking pattern, shortened the cranks to 150mm Miranda Cranks DMR Vault Pedals in orange of course :) I reduced the chainring to 34t and added orange bolts, I upgraded the levers to shimano SLX and this gave a great break feel with the standard calipers, I have Magic Mant front and Rear both in 2.6 with a Nukeproof ARD insert in rear, and also added some Spank Vibrocore 60mm rise bars, I have short arms for my height so for me its perfect,
Here are my upgrade ideas I guess this would be my dream build along with the bits i have already done to my own bike, Keep the Domain Fork But adding a Smash Pot Spring increasing travel to 180mm and upgrading to the the Charger Damper with custom tune, Rear Shock Rockshox ultimate spring with custom tune and of course progressive spring to cater for the linear maestro suspension. Wheels - Hunt eEnduro and as i need to change disks they take the 6 bolt will increase front disk to 220mm, Drivetrain Full XT Link Glide system.
Good ideas for the upgrade
How much "km" can you ride with magic marys ? changing intervall front and rear, what do you guess ?
1000-1500 on the front and 400-700 on the back
@@SamsBikes hmm, so if you ride every weekend around 100km (Saturday + Sunday) you have a tire cycle between 1-2 month. Do you have a good recommendation for a tire-set that woud maybe last a little bit longer and double the lifespan??? By the way this woud be a good video "duration/lifespan of tires" :D thx sam
I orderd a reign e+0 2022 with the discount they give today it is a real deal. E0 2022 has better parts then the 2023 models if you ask me. top brakes , suspension, carbon wheels and with the discount they give i can easy upgrade to axs if i want too and the 50wh more battery i can ignore
Hey Matin I agree the 0 was a epic deal and if you can get it... but check out my custom dream build i think I did a pretty good job and cheaper
@@SamsBikes i paid 6400€ for the reign, i coudnt resist anymore. I tried but always see SAM shredding on his reign. It was not possible anymore 🤣🤣.I like your dreambuild levo but to own a brose is like russia roulette. you can have a good motor or a nightmare one. i want something robust ,reliable with potential updates in future because of the newer tec. The reign e+0 spec is almost perfect they did their homework right (a Carbon version with axs and a nice dropper woud be top of the line, maybe the new rockshox suspension). ok you have this filler cracks but why shoud i bother giant gives lifetime warranty
Just got the 2022 E+0 with 20% off, brilliant deal on a monster eMTB!
@@TCK71 congratz 👍
Btw, what happens with the lifetime frame guarantee if you change fork, damper, brakes ??
As long as you don’t change the travel up you still have a full warranty on frame
@@SamsBikes didn't knew that. thank you
Sam is the +1 coming to Australia, I'm only seeing the +2 and +3 available.
Hey mate I’m not sure. Maybe just reach out to your local Giant shop and ask! Maybe they can order it in.
Please do one for the trance E+1 vs +3 alloy models
It’s on the list now!
Does anyone else have problems with motor overheating. I heared this is common issue with new syncdrive pro motor and you can find a lot off sad owners on the internet. I have giant reign e+2 2022 and I weight 77 kg and have problems with overheating and motor automaticly shift down modes from 5 to 4 or 3. Outside temp was only 20 deg celcius. Thanks for honest comments. I hope anyone has a solution for this issue.
Pretty awesome that all the 2023 Reign E+ models come with the 800wh battery now! But the price of the E+ 3 also increased by $400 USD, lol ...I'm very tempted to buy an 800wh battery from Giant. hmmmm
Just wanted to help out a bit. Suspension is amazing (use both of them). The Hope Rims (Hubs are fine) are a very bad choice! For the price you can get a EX511 that will last a lifetime. Otherwise the bike is mint!
I have been upgrading my e2 put AXS wireless drivetrain and dropper post. Removed the remote from the handlebar. I put the original dropper post on my Stance E2. Fenders front and rear bolt on front modified Proguard front for the rear. DT Swiss H1900 rear wheel. ODI double locking grips Saint brakes. I see some Schwalbe tires in it's future. The Nick's work great on my Stance. I'll run something different on the Reign but they'll be Schwalbe they make great tires! Great video in my opinion stock is never quite right regardless of spec level one needs to make it their own.
Why are you talking euros? Do you live over there? Would be great if you could also mention the prices in AUD aswell. Great vid though 👍👍
Hey Aussie yep I’ve lived in Europe for 12 years and my audience is 70% European and I know Aussie are smart riders and can use a currency converter
BUT you didn't upgrade the dropper post, saddle, shifter, cassette, chain or even the most obvious part, the derailer.
You could have put XT on all of the driver train as a no-brainer.
You left half of the upgrades out and even all the most likely ones anyone would do apart from tyres.
What the heck???
You could have just upgraded the Domain Damper with a Charger 2.1 RC, you would get the same performance like on the ZEB Ultimate, just for less money. This would have been a useful information for the viewers.
Yes true but I decided for the difference in weight your better off selling the forks and going the zebs 2023 with the charger 3
@@SamsBikes Yes, it is a valid option, if you can sell the fork....not so many are interested in buying a Domain 170mm fork, sadly. Greetings from Vienna.
shimano xt 4 piston brakes front and back
shimano xt 11s linkglide shifter
shimano xt cranks 160 mm long
shimano xt 11 speed linkglide casette drealer
KMC ept turbo 11s chain
dt swiss 240 hubs front and back 29er 6-bolt
Hustle bike magnetic pedals
RockShox Zeb Ultimate 2023 180MM 44 offset
RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil DH RC2 205x62.5
Vittoria Mazza front
Vittoria Martello rear
Flexi bar
CRANKBROTHERS HIGHLINE 7 170 MM DROPPER POST
DT Swiss E 1700 Spline 30 weels tubless
do not remember what seat I have. Something short and a bit buff then usual
Revgrip lock on grips
Nice build mate!
Hello, do you recall what shock tune you got for the rockshox super deluxe?
Can we talk $Au, great show
$7649.50 Cheers too easy!
Haha sorry mate 75% of the audience is European
shimano xt 4 piston brakes front and back
shimano xt
shimano xt cranks 165 mm long
shimano xt 12 speed casette drealer and chain
dt swiss 240 hubs front and back 29er
crankbrothers stamp 7 large black pedals
ROCKSHOX SUPER DELUXE ULTIMATE RCT shock
rockshox zeb ultimate fork
schwable magic marry ultra soft front and back
rental fatbar bars 780 wide 30 rise
CRANKBROTHERS HIGHLINE 7 170 MM DROPPER POST
DT Swiss E 1900 Spline 30 weels tubless
SYNCROS TOFINO V 2.0 seat
DMR BRENDOG DEATH lock on grips
Size L
Nice build Mark!
Hi, do you recall what shock tune you got for super deluxe?
Red with that blue,going clown colours😂
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I dont like this video bc the people not going to pay the doubble in your shop that you need to survive as a bike mechanic thanks sam
I want a Reign e 3 so bad,I'd have the gold colour one though,I'll have to hope something miraculous happens though because I'll never earn enough to even start saving never mind buy outright. Awesome channel,love your content,no nonsense delivery with that warning aussie accent:-)
Be patient, and watch out for the 2nd hand market maybe? also hearing bike industry is suffering (not a good thing) but some upside for consumers, as price may likely drop, that's if they have the stock for this particular model.
@@anais4766 all helpful...if you have any spare cash at all...which I dont,zero
@@elvislad sigh... feel you completely. Good luck bro, to both of us. ..
Hey mate thanks for the kind words! yep ebikes are not cheap but keep chipping away at saving and I also agree the second hand market will be very interesting in the next year.