Es fehlt, wie so oft in der Vespa-Ahnenforschung das Modell? Der, die, das? „Cosa“. In Piaggio - Museum Pontedera hat das Modell seinen Platz in der Ahnengalerie gefunden. Auch, wenn die Cosa für das Unternehmen ein Flopp war, so war die Cosa ein erfolgloser Innovationträger. Mit dem Einbau von E-Chocke, E-Benzinhahn, ABS, hydraulische Fußbremse, eine im Windkanal entwickelte Karoserie, Neugestaltung der Bedieninstrumente, große Rundinstrumente für Geschwindigkeits- und Umdrehungsmesser usw. unternahm Piaggio, Ende der 80ziger Jahre, einen großen Entwicklungsschritt.
@@scooterfilm Danke das du meinen Einwand akzeptierst. Normaler Weise ernte ich, wenn ich den Namen „Cosa“ in Verbindung „Vespa“ nur im Ansatz erwähne, herbe Äußerungen und Kommentare. Durch die unbedeutende Ergänzung wird die Sammlung rund.
Unfortunately you won't find the mention of the Cosa much around Vespa and Piaggio circles, even by the maker themselves. It is something Piaggio saw as a design flop they weren't proud of, an attempt of modernization of the scooter many at Pontedera then saw as 'old and boring'. You also have to put this into a perspective of the late 80es, it was the end of the 'square and straight-line designed cars and motorbikes which ultimately caugh on scooters too, numerous faceless Japanese variants being the main culprit. Piaggio was loosing the battle against cheap and angular designed Japanese. The T5, which was seen by many a U-turn on a traditional Vespa design although just a facelift on the then market leading PX model, simply wasn't enough to compete against the cheaper, eye catching alternatives from the Orient. Que in - Cosa. The first and only Vespa produced in Piaggio's history which had the cowls directed front way back. Gone was so recognizable sloping cowl design that had been around from 1946, gone was the gently sloping rear behind the seat, gone was the simple, thin-profile leg shield, gone was the Vespa-styled front fender. All of it was replaced in a single model. Yes, it came with many a technological advancements but those simply couldn't 'fix' the biggest Vespa design flaw ever. That being said, we have to also remember that this underwhelming, badly designed scooter Cosa was, gave an inspirational elements to what eventually became a GT200 in 2003, many many years later. Vespa has also been trying to 'fix' few other design elements on their latest editions of Sprint, Primavera and GTS, more and more you will notice a throwback to the design elements of the Vespas from 60es and 70es. I recently upgraded from GT200 to a new HPE GTS300 and love the return to chrome and older styling. One example for me is the new horn cover (the tie) which is a nice change, older horn covers ones felt out of place for me and disconnected with those recognizable elements of the past.
Thank you for your very long and interesting comment. Somebody else mentioned already that I forgot the Cosa. That's true. All the footage and the informations on the models were given by Piaggio and, as you said, they did not mention the Cosa at all. So it seems like they really want the Cosa to obliterate.
@@scooterfilm Thanks. Let's just say Piaggio isn't proud of that episode, and they'd like if people forget it ever existed. It was rather an experiment in the late 80es which didn't go down well.
Ich kann dieses Video bzw diesen Bericht leider nicht ernstnehmen und musste unterbrechen... wie gut kann die Recherche zu diesem Thema sein, wenn man nichtmal Piaggio richtig ausgesprochen wird? Nicht "Piadschio" sondern "PIADSCHO"!
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Dankbar.
❤ sehr schöner Beitrag 😊
Vielen Dank!!!
Es fehlt, wie so oft in der Vespa-Ahnenforschung das Modell?
Der, die, das? „Cosa“.
In Piaggio - Museum Pontedera hat das Modell seinen Platz in der Ahnengalerie gefunden.
Auch, wenn die Cosa für das Unternehmen ein Flopp war, so war die Cosa ein erfolgloser Innovationträger.
Mit dem Einbau von E-Chocke, E-Benzinhahn, ABS, hydraulische Fußbremse, eine im Windkanal entwickelte Karoserie, Neugestaltung der Bedieninstrumente,
große Rundinstrumente für Geschwindigkeits- und Umdrehungsmesser usw. unternahm Piaggio, Ende der 80ziger Jahre, einen großen Entwicklungsschritt.
Da hast du Recht. Sorry.
@@scooterfilm
Danke das du meinen Einwand akzeptierst.
Normaler Weise ernte ich, wenn ich den Namen „Cosa“ in Verbindung „Vespa“ nur im Ansatz erwähne, herbe Äußerungen und Kommentare.
Durch die unbedeutende Ergänzung wird die Sammlung rund.
Unfortunately you won't find the mention of the Cosa much around Vespa and Piaggio circles, even by the maker themselves. It is something Piaggio saw as a design flop they weren't proud of, an attempt of modernization of the scooter many at Pontedera then saw as 'old and boring'. You also have to put this into a perspective of the late 80es, it was the end of the 'square and straight-line designed cars and motorbikes which ultimately caugh on scooters too, numerous faceless Japanese variants being the main culprit. Piaggio was loosing the battle against cheap and angular designed Japanese. The T5, which was seen by many a U-turn on a traditional Vespa design although just a facelift on the then market leading PX model, simply wasn't enough to compete against the cheaper, eye catching alternatives from the Orient. Que in - Cosa. The first and only Vespa produced in Piaggio's history which had the cowls directed front way back. Gone was so recognizable sloping cowl design that had been around from 1946, gone was the gently sloping rear behind the seat, gone was the simple, thin-profile leg shield, gone was the Vespa-styled front fender. All of it was replaced in a single model. Yes, it came with many a technological advancements but those simply couldn't 'fix' the biggest Vespa design flaw ever.
That being said, we have to also remember that this underwhelming, badly designed scooter Cosa was, gave an inspirational elements to what eventually became a GT200 in 2003, many many years later.
Vespa has also been trying to 'fix' few other design elements on their latest editions of Sprint, Primavera and GTS, more and more you will notice a throwback to the design elements of the Vespas from 60es and 70es. I recently upgraded from GT200 to a new HPE GTS300 and love the return to chrome and older styling. One example for me is the new horn cover (the tie) which is a nice change, older horn covers ones felt out of place for me and disconnected with those recognizable elements of the past.
Thank you for your very long and interesting comment. Somebody else mentioned already that I forgot the Cosa. That's true. All the footage and the informations on the models were given by Piaggio and, as you said, they did not mention the Cosa at all. So it seems like they really want the Cosa to obliterate.
@@scooterfilm Thanks. Let's just say Piaggio isn't proud of that episode, and they'd like if people forget it ever existed. It was rather an experiment in the late 80es which didn't go down well.
Coole Arbeit, sehr geil als Vespafan..Danke!!!
Danke Dir für den Kommentar!
Fahre selbst eine Vespa Special - sehr schönes Video 😍
Freut mich dass es dir gefällt. Danke für den Kommentar!
Cooles Video
Vielen Dank!
Anyone has a link to this clip in English? Appreciated.
So far there is no English version of this clip. If I find the time...
@@scooterfilm If you do, that would be awesome and the wider Vespa community will thank you :-)
Hi, I have just added English subtitles. I hope that helps. Cheers.
@@scooterfilm Thanks mate.
😍😍❤️
Danke!
Hallo super Film gut gemacht
Gruß
Danke für den Kommentar! Schön, dass Dir der Film gefällt.
I have the 75 th anniversary scooter
Bitte Wo ist die Cosa?
Tolles Video :-) Grüße ein Abonnent
Super! Vielen Dank!
gostei das vespa
Люблю Веспу! но у меня Вятка ВП-150 Пузатик!
U call et3 and et4 vespa and u keep out cosa? 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
You have a point there.
Ich kann dieses Video bzw diesen Bericht leider nicht ernstnehmen und musste unterbrechen... wie gut kann die Recherche zu diesem Thema sein, wenn man nichtmal Piaggio richtig ausgesprochen wird?
Nicht "Piadschio" sondern "PIADSCHO"!
Junge, du hast Probleme.
@@scooterfilm zumindest keine Aussprachprobleme 😁
Naja, der fette schwarze Balken mit dem englischen Beschreibungen verdeckt die interessanten Details vom Fahrwerk und Motor. Nicht sehr erhellend ...