In order for the first trick to work, you have to make sure the box “show transformation controls” on the top of Photoshop is ticked. I just realised it’s not the default on all PS versions.
Hello @Jan Wegener I really like to watch your films but I'm wondering, do you think that in this modern times, usage of PS or LR or something else, hasn't gone too far? In my opinion, techniques like in chapter "too tight" are like photomontage not a photo. It's a kind of cheating in my opinion.
@@Goth_PL I think it’s great that you can do whatever you want to your photos. Some like do to more, other less. But most importantly knowing what can be done and how will be very helpful, whether you gonna use it or not, because one day it will come in handy 😀
We hope you all enjoy the show and pick up a few new tricks in the digital darkroom. We'd love to hear what you thought of the episode here in the comments. Cheers! Glenn
Thanks guys, another really helpful video, so often a photo may be discarded due to lack of background somewhere around the bird...NOW, I have the tools to fix it and save some of my photos. Thanks again Jan/Glenn.
I'm glad that I don't have any preconceived ideas of how a bird should look. If the colours are a little dull because the light was a little dull, I'm totally fine with that: That's how the world is and I'm not trying to sell my pictures. If a bird is in bright sunlight and therefore spectacularly red, I love it! But if it's overcast ... well if it's too dark or even raining, I might just wait for better weather, but if it's light overcast and the reds turn out less red, then that's how I want it! Only if the reds look less red than they actually did in real life at that particular time would I wish to do corrections. Editing out straws, twigs or leaves is something I only do on rare occasions when they're very disturbing. But in your example even I might want to remove at least some of them, so thanks for the tip about splitting them into smaller pieces! But I once tried editing a photo I'd taken of my lovely cousin Tina. When I looked closely, she actually had many more wrinkles and spots in her face than I'd normally notice (but please don't tell her that). As an experiment I removed them all from the photo, but then it just wasn't Tina anymore. So I really don't like making cosmetic changes to my images. Adding background, because I made a bad composition, is something I will do if necessary. Using the clone tool I've done for many years, and content aware fill I've used as well. But stretching the background, well, I don't know... You see, I'm extremely sensitive to incorrect aspect ratios. Some people don't mind watching a video in 16:9 even though it was recorded in 4:3. I simply can't stand that! So the stretching of the bottom of the image would have to be done so subtly that it would be pretty much impossible to spot, or I wouldn't do it.
My favorite and the one I use is the one that pops open that kept flying out of your hand. I found one with a smaller hole for the Laiwa lens. I use another diffuser as well to soften the light a little more.. Fantastic video!!❤❤
You two are totally awesome. As a family here in Western Australia, we enjoy ourselves so much, learning and laughing together. Thanks so much guys, super helpful PS tips.
Thanks Jan and Glenn - great video as always! I use your Raw Prosets as a starting point for all my editing and has spent a lot of time practicing my editing skills by use of Jan’s masterclass editing video tutorial. Although still potentials for improvement the masterclass video has brought my editing to another level. What I have the most difficulty with is to bring out the amazing colors as done by Jan. Trust, that I need to practice the use of Color Balance and Selective Color layers more in the future.
Thanks Steen. Yes I use selective colour a lot like on your motmot and I am not shy to sometimes push saturation a bit, although I prefer to adjust the colours with selective colour. In the end what helps is most is to have some sort of vision what you would want the image to look like before you start editing
Jan and Glenn, I’ve been watching your show for a while, and your tips are appreciated. I probably don’t spend enough time on editing. I’m a amateur with limited time. I would love a video on using just Lightroom. I have your prosets and use them often. I can see the value in photoshop, but my workflow is just a lot simpler due to time constraints. Thanks for everything you do to teach!
The challenge is that both Jan and I are VERY keen on the ability to use layers in our workflows. In my opinion PS doesnt need to take longer than LR. You just need to develop a basic workflow. I show you how in my photoshop ebooks...
These 5 hacks are very helpful. The editing process creates an image that allows the viewer to see the bird how the bird was meant ti be seen. I've been using your prosets to begin the editing process. This saves a lot of time. Most of the images I capture are field shots and I never know exactly how the lighting will be or what will be near the bird (sticks, mud eat.). These editing hacks bring quick resolution to the problems in an easy and time saving way.
Very practical tips, thanks (now let's see if I can mimic these at home!). Good to see you both this week. Sundays just aren't complete without an episode of The Bird Show.
Super informative! And its a great point to master the tools that you are going to commonly use. Thanks for the video fellas! Always some of the best content out there.
Hi Jan, I have another question regarding your Bird editing course. I do know you have not been well, so I do apologise for having to ask, but should I buy the bird editing course, does it also cover the latest Photoshop updates? i.e. Have you yet had the opportunity to add sections to cover the latest updates?
All I teach in there hasn't changed except for the look of Camera RAW, but that doesn't affect what I do there. Only differences that I now use my Presets instead of Adobe Profiles My workflow isn't really based on some fancy stuff that changes all the time, but on important layers etc so it's just as up to date as it was when it first came out.
This video gives us all some very good tips for editing our photos. And, even though I don’t use the Adobe suite of programs to edit my photos I can still use your tips. Thanks for all your great work.
Thanks for mentioning my Black Crake image! I can agree with Glenn on the foreground, I decided not to clean up the sticks keeping it untouched. On the other hand I was happy there wasn't anything growing in that spot 'cos it could have blocked my clear view.
What a great clip guys! Thank you for sharing these hints in making our shots that much better. Please do more of these type of videos - they are so helpful to those of us who need some guidance in improving our skills from where they currently are. I use your raw presets and I have to say that they really speed up my workflow. I consider your presets a wonderful and time saving purchase. Personally, my wish list is for you both to produce more Photoshop hacks on how to improve our bird images that we have captured. So, so, so helpful to those of us with little PS experience.
Phenomenal tips and guidance. I'm definitely interested in the Prosets especially since I'm partially colorblind. Any tips for how to approach getting colors right when you are color challenged?
Hmmm, that would be quite a unique challenge. I guess you'd have to work more with the histograms and charts etc to see where an optimal colour may sit
Thanks for these tips. For me, biggest pain is choosing which images to edit and how much time to spend on each of them and what to do with all other files that are nice but not great
I am sure Glenn will say delete them. I usually like to keep a bunch of images around in case I change my mind or want to edit something different in the future
Thanks for these tips. Whilst I don't use LR or PS, I can apply most PS workflow to Affinity Photo. Thanks again. Beautiful images by those selected this week.
Excellent format guys. In this video, I think that you have hit on a winning formula of clearly presented “how-to” tips, a very comfortable pacing plus helpful comments for a few images contributed my others. The bonus to me is that you two project your enjoyment of working together. Tip of the hat also to the intercontinental editing that makes it all flow smoothly.
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always, keep up with the awesome content, I am trying to get familiar with ligth room so I can get your presets very soon 🐦👍🤗
After a while it will come natural. You mainly need to know which areas to clone from and to drag the patch tool to. Ideally they have the same colours and no patterns
My shooting and editing styles are different from yours, but I certainly picked up a couple of Photoshop tips I didn't know that will be quite valuable. I always enjoy your videos, guys, so thanks very much.
Great show guys, loved the hacks, I have the pro sets and the master class just don’t get enough time using them and trying out these new hacks, weather has been so good I’ve spent almost all my time shooting, hard to not be out there with so much wildlife being so active and am to tired when I get home to edit. When the weather changes I’ll have to spend a bunch of time on the Mac. 👀👀
Thanks for the editing tips. I'm sure I'll watch this episode over a few times. I do the vast majority of my editing in Lightroom. I usually start with a color profile adjustment either Vivid or Landscape. Then I crop if needed, run a DeNoise program (Topaz) followed with the Lightroom masking tools as needed. I finish with the radial gradient to create a soft vignette and that's pretty much it.
@@jan_wegener I, too, would appreciate more help with Lightroom. I have used Photoshop some and have worked with layers some, but I think my computer struggles when I have more than a couple of layers going.
Biggest issue in editing for me is capturing a bird at about 30 meters at 500 mm ( 100-500 RF) and then needing to aggressively crop. So what’s the ideal workflow and do you apply Topaz Gigapixel? Or maybe I should be using the new firmware for the R5.
I bought the lightroom prosets and I'm thinking about also getting the masterclass editing video. I'm reasonably competent with lightroom but a beginner with photoshop, does the masterclass editing video take me step by step through what I need to do in photoshop?
Hi Guys Great video. Unfortunately a major interest of mine are photographic competitions and the FIAP/PSA rules regarding processing are very limiting- primarily dodging and burning. Am able to employ more extensive processing for calendars etc and your ideas are very helpful.
Excellent tips, definitely have given me some more tools to use when dealing with challenging sticks/leaves/grass intruding on my subjects. Countless ruined shots from those things, now I might have a chance to save some images! That being said, the toughest skill in post for me is exactly that: cloning techniques when the background is complex, or I have to recreate a blocked portion of a subject.
Hi Jan: I have a question about your Masterclass. With all the updates from Adobe for photoshop and Lightroom, do you update your masterclass curriculum to take advantage of the new tools that seem to be added every few months with the Adobe subscription model?
@@larrymoss2745 hey, My Masterclass doesn’t rely on any ever changing tools. The tools I teach have not changed pretty much at all. My workflow is based on adjustment layers etc. which have been the same for ages. Some cloning may be easier if the AI tools really worked better in the future. But for now I use every day what I teach on there. The only thing that has changed is that I use my prosets instead of the Adobe profiles and the look of acr, but what I do there is still the same too I hope that helps
fabulous episode Jan and Glenn, really love it but i am totally hopeless in photo editing, yes i got inspired by many of your videos, but never understood the layers and masks, and now mostly i use DXO Photolab 6. before 6 weeks got some shots of the Arabian sunbird which one of them got notable in birdguide but i am sure if it was edited by one of your brilliant methods it would have been POW, wishful thinking, lOL. thanks so much again.
Hello Jan great channel could you advise me on programme that will open & edit my R7 video files as I cannot get them to open on my laptop which is running windows 10, I am in the process of having a computer built for me after watching your "computer build video "but it wont be ready for a few weeks , thanks for any help. ps I,m ln the uk if that makes any difference ?
Hi Jan & Glenn, thanks for these great hacks! I fully get why you use them this way. But unfortunately these are Photoshop tricks which are lacking from my editor being DxO Photolab 😞 I've read Adobe recently upped its game with some AI Denoise option. Are they now approaching the level of DxO DeepPrimeXD, or is DxO still ahead of the pack ??
@@jan_wegener I assume it will also depend whether Adobe already applies it on the (native) raw file (like what DxO is doing) or rather at the end of the flow like Topaz. Both moments can make sense actually: upfront noise removal like you use DxO PureRaw in your flow provides a great start, but in case one couldn't "expose to the right" enough (even when that's one of your other great lessons !!) and you brighten up some darks then this introduces processing noise which can be dealt with Topaz at the end. I guess the Adobe denoise does not act on both sides of the flow ..
Hey guys, awesome video. However, when I try the same techniques in Photoshop, my Ps does not respond like your demonstration. For example, I tried the technique of adding space at the bottom of the frame. When I press the shift key and select the move tool my rectangle does not have the "move squares" to grab and pull down. Not sure what I am doing wrong or if there is a setting that I need to adjust in Ps.
I had a similar issue. To fix it, after you select the Move tool, make sure that you have a check in the Show Transform Controls checkbox in the horizontal toolbar at the top of Photoshop.
Another very helpful video guys. I do not use Photoshop but Affinity Photo so my biggest frustration is I can't use your prosets! That said Affinity does a pretty good job, still learning even at my advanced age, for instance I didn't realise until recently there were so many ways of using masks!
I think one of my biggest struggles is how far to take the brightness, saturation of colors, and contrast. I always think "less is more" which I've heard countless times, but then I see your images which are always so vibrant. When I try it, it always just looks overdone. Then again, most birds I'm photographing aren't very colorful in the first place.
Herr Wegener, funktionieren Ihre Prosets nur mit Adobe RGB oder auch mit S RGB. Das Fotolabor, welches ich für meine Fotos benutze, bevorzugt jpegs in S RGB.
Hello both. Jan, where you go over removing an object in front of feathers, have you tried the new Photoshop remove tool which has been shown to be far more accurate than previous content aware fill.
Just on a trip atm but I will do more. It definitely looks better, but I have a feeling you will always need the clone tool to fix up a tricky job like that
The new remove tool is still only in beta version, but should make it to release soon. It is said to be "AI" driven (aren't they all now?). I have played with it a lot the past few days and it is quite amazing - it will replace 90%+ of the cloning work I do I suspect. It will be a game-changer for many.
Jan, I've always been curious about your course, it arouses a certain curiosity in me. There's even a photograph I took in 2020, of an asio stygius (Stygian Owl), which I was never able to adjust correctly, due to the light that was at the time. This one I'd like to send you, and see how it would look with your knowledge using your editing method.
You'll have far less issues with colour if you use a colorchecker or McBeth chart and create some profiles under various lighting conditions. You'll get accurate colour for your camera (and even lens) rather than using a generic profile. Only takes a few mins to create one and the difference is substantial
@@jan_wegener it's part of my job to maintain a high accuracy throughout colour management workflow. I would think some of the issues with birds would be the high luminance and iridescence of feathers. It would start to fall out of dynamic range and potentially out of gamut. Just like the blue streak on the bird in the video you posted. Further to that, a camera profile created under full sunlight still may not be precisely the same as another shot under full sun if the sun is lower or higher in the sky. The colour temperature will still shift. Sometimes accuracy is not always exactly what you want though when shooting for aesthetics. At least under even and diffuse light, a McBeth chart and camera profile will get very close. Ideally you'd want to walk up to the bird and ask if it minds standing next to the colour chart while you take a shot so you can profile for that exact scene correctly!
Thank you for this very helpful video! I guess my biggest problem, or “mistake” in editing is sometimes trying to fix an image which, after some time, I realise is just not very good. Editing an already pretty good photo is just al lot easier…😉
Hi, I have an image of a red fox but, I have clipped the tail. Is there a way of using AI to add move grass and a tip to the tail in PS or PS beta? New to PS. Jason
I can never decide whether to darken background or lighten. I feel like selecting bird and lightening it with darker background makes it pop, but i see yours more lightened.
Did you Guys try the New "Remove tool"?? I find it VERY good, and surprisingly good in busy elements as well! 💪 Almost elimimates content aware film and stamp tool, for removing sticks, grass etc.
At 7:17, I have a hard time imagining how you rebuilt that wing using the clone and patch tools alone... did you use another exposure with a different view of the wing?
@@geoffreybrooks6041 I mainly used the clone tool and patch tool, but it helps to get the wing outline somewhere and just merge it, if it’s this obstructed
It’s pretty much trial and error. You can see my settings on upper rhs. And then it’s just about learning how much to use it. I always use it on a separate layer so I can reverse all changes
I have studied Jan’s masterclass so I’m pretty up to speed but my biggest issue still remains getting the white balance right. I am seriously colorblind, and WB is the starting point for all other changes… and getting that starting point right is a nightmare for me.
It can be tricky for sure when you’re not sure where you’re going with your edit. And unfortunately there’s no right or wrong with WB. You can use the colour picker on a white area but that often makes it look funny.
My problem is Photoshop phobia. I start editing and end up accidentally doing something that completely mucks up my image, don’t understand what I did, and can’t figure out how to undo it.
I'd recommend sticking to a good basic workflow first (like I teach in my ebook). Then save the file and muck around a bit more and see if you can make it better or just revert to the basic saved file.
Boy, I sure could not get the results you describe…only trying to add a little space on one side of my shot but the techniques you show just didn’t work! I don’t use PS that much but I can’t get it to do what you show. Leary of buying video classes when I can’t get a simple task to work. Thanks for showing but it didn’t work for me.
Greetings from India 🙏🙏 I am not much of a Instagram person... I do have a social media account though on "Vero". Are you guys on Vero ? If yes, do let me know your Vero IDs 🙏
@@jan_wegener have sent u the connect request... I prefer Vero cause it's like building a community... There is no algorithm as the developer says on Vero...
In order for the first trick to work, you have to make sure the box “show transformation controls” on the top of Photoshop is ticked. I just realised it’s not the default on all PS versions.
Hello @Jan Wegener I really like to watch your films but I'm wondering, do you think that in this modern times, usage of PS or LR or something else, hasn't gone too far? In my opinion, techniques like in chapter "too tight" are like photomontage not a photo. It's a kind of cheating in my opinion.
@@Goth_PL I think it’s great that you can do whatever you want to your photos. Some like do to more, other less.
But most importantly knowing what can be done and how will be very helpful, whether you gonna use it or not, because one day it will come in handy 😀
We hope you all enjoy the show and pick up a few new tricks in the digital darkroom. We'd love to hear what you thought of the episode here in the comments. Cheers!
Glenn
Wonderful video, we want more of this kind, but I love too the ones in the field, thank you for all
We will always do a mix 😀
cool use of the liquify - never thought of that
Can be quite handy!
Thanks guys, another really helpful video, so often a photo may be discarded due to lack of background somewhere around the bird...NOW, I have the tools to fix it and save some of my photos. Thanks again Jan/Glenn.
Very helpful. Thank you all
Happy to help!
I'm glad that I don't have any preconceived ideas of how a bird should look. If the colours are a little dull because the light was a little dull, I'm totally fine with that: That's how the world is and I'm not trying to sell my pictures. If a bird is in bright sunlight and therefore spectacularly red, I love it! But if it's overcast ... well if it's too dark or even raining, I might just wait for better weather, but if it's light overcast and the reds turn out less red, then that's how I want it! Only if the reds look less red than they actually did in real life at that particular time would I wish to do corrections.
Editing out straws, twigs or leaves is something I only do on rare occasions when they're very disturbing.
But in your example even I might want to remove at least some of them, so thanks for the tip about splitting them into smaller pieces!
But I once tried editing a photo I'd taken of my lovely cousin Tina. When I looked closely, she actually had many more wrinkles and spots in her face than I'd normally notice (but please don't tell her that). As an experiment I removed them all from the photo, but then it just wasn't Tina anymore. So I really don't like making cosmetic changes to my images.
Adding background, because I made a bad composition, is something I will do if necessary. Using the clone tool I've done for many years, and content aware fill I've used as well.
But stretching the background, well, I don't know... You see, I'm extremely sensitive to incorrect aspect ratios. Some people don't mind watching a video in 16:9 even though it was recorded in 4:3. I simply can't stand that! So the stretching of the bottom of the image would have to be done so subtly that it would be pretty much impossible to spot, or I wouldn't do it.
My favorite and the one I use is the one that pops open that kept flying out of your hand. I found one with a smaller hole for the Laiwa lens. I use another diffuser as well to soften the light a little more.. Fantastic video!!❤❤
Excellent information. thank you so much.
Cheers Amy!
You two are totally awesome. As a family here in Western Australia, we enjoy ourselves so much, learning and laughing together. Thanks so much guys, super helpful PS tips.
That's so nice to hear!
Great to hear 😀
Great 👍. I'll use for canvas tricks....want to learn on the use of Masking tool..
Thanks, this was really interesting. I have not used the liquefier tool yet, and will play around with it.
It can be quite fun!
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing
Cheers!
Great tips 👌 I have used all of the ones you have mentioned to improve my photos. I just subscribed, and I'm looking forward to more videos.
Great to have you aboard! 😊
That’s great Stephen!
Thanks Jan and Glenn - great video as always! I use your Raw Prosets as a starting point for all my editing and has spent a lot of time practicing my editing skills by use of Jan’s masterclass editing video tutorial. Although still potentials for improvement the masterclass video has brought my editing to another level. What I have the most difficulty with is to bring out the amazing colors as done by Jan. Trust, that I need to practice the use of Color Balance and Selective Color layers more in the future.
Thanks Steen.
Yes I use selective colour a lot like on your motmot and I am not shy to sometimes push saturation a bit, although I prefer to adjust the colours with selective colour. In the end what helps is most is to have some sort of vision what you would want the image to look like before you start editing
Great video! Really good information in this. Thank you! 👏
Hey Jan and Glenn, used the PS tips already twice. Super tips to expand the canvas, love it!!
Awesome!
Jan and Glenn, I’ve been watching your show for a while, and your tips are appreciated. I probably don’t spend enough time on editing. I’m a amateur with limited time. I would love a video on using just Lightroom. I have your prosets and use them often. I can see the value in photoshop, but my workflow is just a lot simpler due to time constraints. Thanks for everything you do to teach!
The challenge is that both Jan and I are VERY keen on the ability to use layers in our workflows. In my opinion PS doesnt need to take longer than LR. You just need to develop a basic workflow. I show you how in my photoshop ebooks...
These 5 hacks are very helpful. The editing process creates an image that allows the viewer to see the bird how the bird was meant ti be seen. I've been using your prosets to begin the editing process. This saves a lot of time. Most of the images I capture are field shots and I never know exactly how the lighting will be or what will be near the bird (sticks, mud eat.). These editing hacks bring quick resolution to the problems in an easy and time saving way.
Great to hear Bill!
Very practical tips, thanks (now let's see if I can mimic these at home!). Good to see you both this week. Sundays just aren't complete without an episode of The Bird Show.
Glad you enjoyed the show! Good luck back at home!
Thank you! Glad you’re enjoying the show
Super informative! And its a great point to master the tools that you are going to commonly use. Thanks for the video fellas! Always some of the best content out there.
Thank you!
Hi Jan, I have another question regarding your Bird editing course. I do know you have not been well, so I do apologise for having to ask, but should I buy the bird editing course, does it also cover the latest Photoshop updates? i.e. Have you yet had the opportunity to add sections to cover the latest updates?
All I teach in there hasn't changed except for the look of Camera RAW, but that doesn't affect what I do there. Only differences that I now use my Presets instead of Adobe Profiles
My workflow isn't really based on some fancy stuff that changes all the time, but on important layers etc so it's just as up to date as it was when it first came out.
Excellent - that is all I needed to know. Thank you!
Most helpful and informative session. So many amazing captures! 💖
Glad you think so!
Awesome show! This will help me with Red Winged Black Birds in the evening with beautiful light. I was struggling with the Reds!
Great!
Thanks for another great video guys. Lot's of great tips, and some stunning photos, both from you guys, , and from the viewers.
Thanks for the nice feedback Bjorn!
Thank you
This video gives us all some very good tips for editing our photos. And, even though I don’t use the Adobe suite of programs to edit my photos I can still use your tips. Thanks for all your great work.
Would give you 10 thumbs up, if possible!!! You're both such amazing masters in your field. My very favourite show. Looking forward to the next one...
Thanks Heidi! 😊
We miss the initial theme, it is wonderful
Thanks for mentioning my Black Crake image!
I can agree with Glenn on the foreground, I decided not to clean up the sticks keeping it untouched.
On the other hand I was happy there wasn't anything growing in that spot 'cos it could have blocked my clear view.
What a great clip guys! Thank you for sharing these hints in making our shots that much better. Please do more of these type of videos - they are so helpful to those of us who need some guidance in improving our skills from where they currently are. I use your raw presets and I have to say that they really speed up my workflow. I consider your presets a wonderful and time saving purchase. Personally, my wish list is for you both to produce more Photoshop hacks on how to improve our bird images that we have captured. So, so, so helpful to those of us with little PS experience.
Thanks Janette, glad you're enjoying the PROSETS and the videos :) More to Come
Phenomenal tips and guidance. I'm definitely interested in the Prosets especially since I'm partially colorblind. Any tips for how to approach getting colors right when you are color challenged?
Hmmm, that would be quite a unique challenge. I guess you'd have to work more with the histograms and charts etc to see where an optimal colour may sit
Thanks for these tips. For me, biggest pain is choosing which images to edit and how much time to spend on each of them and what to do with all other files that are nice but not great
If you aren't excited about the image then just delete it. Keep only your best Images. Less than 1%
I am sure Glenn will say delete them. I usually like to keep a bunch of images around in case I change my mind or want to edit something different in the future
Thanks for these tips. Whilst I don't use LR or PS, I can apply most PS workflow to Affinity Photo. Thanks again. Beautiful images by those selected this week.
Great to hear you enjoyed the episode!
Excellent format guys. In this video, I think that you have hit on a winning formula of clearly presented “how-to” tips, a very comfortable pacing plus helpful comments for a few images contributed my others. The bonus to me is that you two project your enjoyment of working together. Tip of the hat also to the intercontinental editing that makes it all flow smoothly.
Thanks so much for that kind feedback amigo!
Thanks for the great comment Jon. Happy you’re enjoying the show
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always, keep up with the awesome content, I am trying to get familiar with ligth room so I can get your presets very soon 🐦👍🤗
Thanks for watching Miguel!
Great video as usual. I struggle with Photoshop and find cloning and patch tool technique never as easy as you make it look!
Practice makes perfect 😎
After a while it will come natural. You mainly need to know which areas to clone from and to drag the patch tool to. Ideally they have the same colours and no patterns
@@GlennBartley I'll keep at it! 😀
@@jan_wegener Thanks Jan. So little time, so much to learn! 😄
Very nice indeed
My shooting and editing styles are different from yours, but I certainly picked up a couple of Photoshop tips I didn't know that will be quite valuable. I always enjoy your videos, guys, so thanks very much.
Awesome! I think that’s what it’s all about. Having your own style but implementation gives new things along the way
Great show guys, loved the hacks, I have the pro sets and the master class just don’t get enough time using them and trying out these new hacks, weather has been so good I’ve spent almost all my time shooting, hard to not be out there with so much wildlife being so active and am to tired when I get home to edit. When the weather changes I’ll have to spend a bunch of time on the Mac. 👀👀
Ya I always catch up on image editing in the down season... Take advantage of spring!
Yes time on the computer can be annoying, but helps to finish up the great work we do in the field
Great video Guys. Very informative👍😀
Thanks......
Thanks for the editing tips. I'm sure I'll watch this episode over a few times. I do the vast majority of my editing in Lightroom. I usually start with a color profile adjustment either Vivid or Landscape. Then I crop if needed, run a DeNoise program (Topaz) followed with the Lightroom masking tools as needed. I finish with the radial gradient to create a soft vignette and that's pretty much it.
Thanks for sharing that Jack.
Thanks for sharing. I will focus on more LR content soon
@@jan_wegener I, too, would appreciate more help with Lightroom. I have used Photoshop some and have worked with layers some, but I think my computer struggles when I have more than a couple of layers going.
Biggest issue in editing for me is capturing a bird at about 30 meters at 500 mm ( 100-500 RF) and then needing to aggressively crop. So what’s the ideal workflow and do you apply Topaz Gigapixel? Or maybe I should be using the new firmware for the R5.
Ideally you can try to get as many pixels on the bird as possible. But yes focal length is always an issue. I don't use gigapixel personally.
AWESOME! 👏
Thanks Jan
I bought the lightroom prosets and I'm thinking about also getting the masterclass editing video. I'm reasonably competent with lightroom but a beginner with photoshop, does the masterclass editing video take me step by step through what I need to do in photoshop?
It does
As a Photoshop newbie this was really useful, thank you.👍👍👍
Great to hear!! Thanks for letting us know.
Fabulous
Enjoyed the episode ❤ Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Awesome
Hi Guys
Great video. Unfortunately a major interest of mine are photographic competitions and the FIAP/PSA rules regarding processing are very limiting- primarily dodging and burning. Am able to employ more extensive processing for calendars etc and your ideas are very helpful.
Excellent tips, definitely have given me some more tools to use when dealing with challenging sticks/leaves/grass intruding on my subjects. Countless ruined shots from those things, now I might have a chance to save some images! That being said, the toughest skill in post for me is exactly that: cloning techniques when the background is complex, or I have to recreate a blocked portion of a subject.
Thanks Jack. Hopefully you'll have some good success now.
You can sometimes use parts from a different image from that series. I recreate a birds tail like that in my Masterclass
Hi Jan: I have a question about your Masterclass. With all the updates from Adobe for photoshop and Lightroom, do you update your masterclass curriculum to take advantage of the new tools that seem to be added every few months with the Adobe subscription model?
@@larrymoss2745 hey,
My Masterclass doesn’t rely on any ever changing tools. The tools I teach have not changed pretty much at all. My workflow is based on adjustment layers etc. which have been the same for ages. Some cloning may be easier if the AI tools really worked better in the future. But for now I use every day what I teach on there. The only thing that has changed is that I use my prosets instead of the Adobe profiles and the look of acr, but what I do there is still the same too
I hope that helps
fabulous episode Jan and Glenn, really love it but i am totally hopeless in photo editing, yes i got inspired by many of your videos, but never understood the layers and masks, and now mostly i use DXO Photolab 6. before 6 weeks got some shots of the Arabian sunbird which one of them got notable in birdguide but i am sure if it was edited by one of your brilliant methods it would have been POW, wishful thinking, lOL.
thanks so much again.
Definitely check out the resources Jan and I have made. They will help you get confidence in the digital darkroom 😊
Thanks for sharing! Learning editing takes a bit of time and is a never ending process 😀
where can i shot the pitta?
Hello Jan great channel could you advise me on programme that will open & edit my R7 video files as I cannot get them to open on my laptop which is running windows 10, I am in the process of having a computer built for me after watching your "computer build video "but it wont be ready for a few weeks , thanks for any help.
ps I,m ln the uk if that makes any difference ?
Did you Film in log format? Otherwise all programs should open it
Hi guys, I have a question regarding your presets. Are they made mostly for Photoshop or would they work 100% with Lightroom Classic (6.31) ?
They work with LR, but only from version 7.0 up i believe. With older versions you cannot add profiles
Hi Jan & Glenn, thanks for these great hacks! I fully get why you use them this way. But unfortunately these are Photoshop tricks which are lacking from my editor being DxO Photolab 😞
I've read Adobe recently upped its game with some AI Denoise option. Are they now approaching the level of DxO DeepPrimeXD, or is DxO still ahead of the pack ??
That's a good question... We'll have to do a comparison soon
I think Adobe still has some catching up to do. In my experience DeepPrimeXD works better than Adobe Denoise.
I haven’t tried it much, but from what I have seen dxo is still ahead when it comes to details
@@jan_wegener I assume it will also depend whether Adobe already applies it on the (native) raw file (like what DxO is doing) or rather at the end of the flow like Topaz. Both moments can make sense actually: upfront noise removal like you use DxO PureRaw in your flow provides a great start, but in case one couldn't "expose to the right" enough (even when that's one of your other great lessons !!) and you brighten up some darks then this introduces processing noise which can be dealt with Topaz at the end.
I guess the Adobe denoise does not act on both sides of the flow ..
Hey guys, awesome video. However, when I try the same techniques in Photoshop, my Ps does not respond like your demonstration. For example, I tried the technique of adding space at the bottom of the frame. When I press the shift key and select the move tool my rectangle does not have the "move squares" to grab and pull down. Not sure what I am doing wrong or if there is a setting that I need to adjust in Ps.
You need to tick "show transform controls" at the top of the screen 👍
I had a similar issue. To fix it, after you select the Move tool, make sure that you have a check in the Show Transform Controls checkbox in the horizontal toolbar at the top of Photoshop.
@@dougbrown7624 Thanks!
Forgot that’s not ticked by default! Sorry
Another very helpful video guys. I do not use Photoshop but Affinity Photo so my biggest frustration is I can't use your prosets! That said Affinity does a pretty good job, still learning even at my advanced age, for instance I didn't realise until recently there were so many ways of using masks!
There's always lots to learn in the digital darkroom no matter what program that's for sure!
Yes masks are amazing
hi Jan. just wondering which company do u use for photo printing in sunshine coast? or do u go to brisbane for photo printing. thanks in adv.
Haven't found a good one yet. I have used Fitzgerald in Perth a fair bit
@@jan_wegener thanks Jan. let me know if u have some good recommendations for printing shop. cheers.
I think one of my biggest struggles is how far to take the brightness, saturation of colors, and contrast. I always think "less is more" which I've heard countless times, but then I see your images which are always so vibrant. When I try it, it always just looks overdone. Then again, most birds I'm photographing aren't very colorful in the first place.
Yes thats always tricky.....I try to keep them looking natural....but like the absolute nicest specimen of the species. Right on the edge!
I think more is more tbh. I like to go for what looks best and how I like my images to look and experience nature myself
Is it possible to stretch the frame just a bit in Lightroom? I know you said it's easier in Photoshop but I'm only familiar with Lightroom. Thanks.
Since you can’t really use layers in LR I don’t think it will work.
Herr Wegener, funktionieren Ihre Prosets nur mit Adobe RGB oder auch mit S RGB. Das Fotolabor, welches ich für meine Fotos benutze, bevorzugt jpegs in S RGB.
Hat mit dem farbbreich niz zu tun, geht also mit allen
It’s quasie wie eins der Adobe Profile, nur besser 😄
@@jan_wegener Danke
Hello both. Jan, where you go over removing an object in front of feathers, have you tried the new Photoshop remove tool which has been shown to be far more accurate than previous content aware fill.
Just on a trip atm but I will do more. It definitely looks better, but I have a feeling you will always need the clone tool to fix up a tricky job like that
The new remove tool is still only in beta version, but should make it to release soon. It is said to be "AI" driven (aren't they all now?). I have played with it a lot the past few days and it is quite amazing - it will replace 90%+ of the cloning work I do I suspect. It will be a game-changer for many.
Jan, I've always been curious about your course, it arouses a certain curiosity in me. There's even a photograph I took in 2020, of an asio stygius (Stygian Owl), which I was never able to adjust correctly, due to the light that was at the time. This one I'd like to send you, and see how it would look with your knowledge using your editing method.
You can email me and I can at least have a look at it and see what could be done
You'll have far less issues with colour if you use a colorchecker or McBeth chart and create some profiles under various lighting conditions. You'll get accurate colour for your camera (and even lens) rather than using a generic profile.
Only takes a few mins to create one and the difference is substantial
That’s part of what we did with our own profiles, but the red for instance is often still off so we have some variations
@@jan_wegener it's part of my job to maintain a high accuracy throughout colour management workflow. I would think some of the issues with birds would be the high luminance and iridescence of feathers. It would start to fall out of dynamic range and potentially out of gamut. Just like the blue streak on the bird in the video you posted. Further to that, a camera profile created under full sunlight still may not be precisely the same as another shot under full sun if the sun is lower or higher in the sky. The colour temperature will still shift.
Sometimes accuracy is not always exactly what you want though when shooting for aesthetics.
At least under even and diffuse light, a McBeth chart and camera profile will get very close. Ideally you'd want to walk up to the bird and ask if it minds standing next to the colour chart while you take a shot so you can profile for that exact scene correctly!
Thank you for this very helpful video!
I guess my biggest problem, or “mistake” in editing is sometimes trying to fix an image which, after some time, I realise is just not very good. Editing an already pretty good photo is just al lot easier…😉
That is definitely true!!!
Yes that does help to have a good starting pint
What about using the new Remove tool?
Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. You will still need to know how to use the clone tool to clean things up a bit
@@jan_wegener Thanks. I haven't used it yet.
Hi, I have an image of a red fox but, I have clipped the tail. Is there a way of using AI to add move grass and a tip to the tail in PS or PS beta? New to PS. Jason
There's a good chance Ai can add that
Are the prosets hard to load into LR and PS?
No, there's a pdf installation guide and set up video coming with them.
I can never decide whether to darken background or lighten. I feel like selecting bird and lightening it with darker background makes it pop, but i see yours more lightened.
For me it depends upon the mood of the shot at the appropriate habitat of the bird.
I definitely go for light and I avoid dark green
Did you Guys try the New "Remove tool"?? I find it VERY good, and surprisingly good in busy elements as well! 💪
Almost elimimates content aware film and stamp tool, for removing sticks, grass etc.
Yes it can do good stuff, nice to see it develop more
Probably the new way to go that tool and close stamp to clean up
At 7:17, I have a hard time imagining how you rebuilt that wing using the clone and patch tools alone... did you use another exposure with a different view of the wing?
In that image I did, yes
@@jan_wegener Thank you! I know you show this in your masterclass, so just wanted to make sure I didn't miss an easier approach.
@@geoffreybrooks6041 I mainly used the clone tool and patch tool, but it helps to get the wing outline somewhere and just merge it, if it’s this obstructed
Great instruction. I hope in the future you can go a little more in depth about using liquify tool
It’s pretty much trial and error. You can see my settings on upper rhs. And then it’s just about learning how much to use it. I always use it on a separate layer so I can reverse all changes
@@jan_wegener thanks
wanted to get the proset bundle, but it will not let me
Why?
Please slow down when showing what tools you use in PS. Thanks!
For more detailed instructions please feel free to check out my ebooks and Jan's masterclass....link in description.
Hard to find the right speed at times. You can always pause and follow along and then press play again 😀
I have studied Jan’s masterclass so I’m pretty up to speed but my biggest issue still remains getting the white balance right. I am seriously colorblind, and WB is the starting point for all other changes… and getting that starting point right is a nightmare for me.
It can be tricky for sure when you’re not sure where you’re going with your edit. And unfortunately there’s no right or wrong with WB. You can use the colour picker on a white area but that often makes it look funny.
My biggest problem with editing is me, I really dislike editing 😂 I really must bite the bullet and increase my editing skills.
It’s a necessary evil but can also be fun
@@jan_wegener Seeing what both you and Glenn can acheive is quite something.
My problem is Photoshop phobia. I start editing and end up accidentally doing something that completely mucks up my image, don’t understand what I did, and can’t figure out how to undo it.
I'd recommend sticking to a good basic workflow first (like I teach in my ebook). Then save the file and muck around a bit more and see if you can make it better or just revert to the basic saved file.
If you do everything on a new adjustment layer each time, you can just delete the layer and start again. That’s one of the strengths of PS
Tricky red - not worked for my Bullfinch images... Next Profile - Bullfinch Red😀
Haha
Boy, I sure could not get the results you describe…only trying to add a little space on one side of my shot but the techniques you show just didn’t work! I don’t use PS that much but I can’t get it to do what you show. Leary of buying video classes when I can’t get a simple task to work. Thanks for showing but it didn’t work for me.
You mean stretching the canvas?
You have to make sure the box “show transformation controls”
Greetings from India 🙏🙏
I am not much of a Instagram person... I do have a social media account though on "Vero".
Are you guys on Vero ? If yes, do let me know your Vero IDs 🙏
I am on there under my name but haven’t been active much
@@jan_wegener have sent u the connect request...
I prefer Vero cause it's like building a community... There is no algorithm as the developer says on Vero...
No photoshop for animal nature photography. Only Lightroom. What’s next? Midjourney and text prompts?
Certainly up to each individual...But I prefer to use the tools available to make my images look the best they can...
Ok go ahead and do all these if you want, but except for the blue patch double-RAW, I consider all these types of manipulations I don't like to see.
To each their own 😊