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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • Bigblast99 talks about the worst mechanic to be introduced to the Pokémon Franchise.
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Комментарии • 124

  • @CartTube6
    @CartTube6 19 дней назад +48

    Keldeo being shiny locked is so much worse when you remember the fact that the other swords of justice are huntable in swsh

    • @Turtle-Soup
      @Turtle-Soup  17 дней назад +6

      It feels really weird
      Like you need the swords of justice to get Keldeo to spawn in the dlc iirc, so them being huntable and being needed to encounter a shiny locked Mon is just so bizarre.

    • @kingmagikarp97
      @kingmagikarp97 16 дней назад +1

      I had no idea they were huntable, I would have done that if I would have known lol

  • @awesomeobject5851
    @awesomeobject5851 19 дней назад +74

    And I really hate how eternatus shiny is only locked to a limited time event code which expired

    • @Turtle-Soup
      @Turtle-Soup  19 дней назад +13

      Big time! I never really cared a whole lot about the shiny legendary events in the past as if I really wanted one I could find one myself, but knowing that they’re locked to these silly codes that won’t be seen again for god knows how long just makes it feel more like a task than getting something neat

    • @davidbrooks4088
      @davidbrooks4088 19 дней назад

      Haha i have one if you want a trade!

    • @awesomeobject5851
      @awesomeobject5851 19 дней назад

      @@davidbrooks4088 I don’t think those could be traded

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 19 дней назад +2

      Same with Solgaleo/Lunala in Gen 7. It is so sad.

    • @lanadelphox
      @lanadelphox 18 дней назад

      I was fortunate and got the Galar trio cards, was unfortunate and missed the Galar birds though. Still really mad about that one tbh

  • @carterlazarus813
    @carterlazarus813 19 дней назад +38

    There's an Ariados in the Ursaluna storyline of The Teal Mask that is shiny locked. A fucking Ariados. This "it won't be shiny in the cutscene" shit is not worth it when we're at the point of locking a Pokemon I can find hundreds of in the wild.
    I feel like gen 9 was especially bad because they didn't want to code how they'd appear shiny in the overworld and battle and how that would interact if the player left the FoV or not, so they didn't bother and locked them.

    • @Shinntoku
      @Shinntoku 19 дней назад +6

      See that feels like the kind of case where I don't see why people would care precisely *because* there are hundreds in the wild

    • @carterlazarus813
      @carterlazarus813 19 дней назад +4

      @@Shinntoku indeed, but it shows how pointless it's gotten

    • @Shinntoku
      @Shinntoku 19 дней назад +5

      @@carterlazarus813 personally I'm a fan of pokemon keeping visual continuity when it comes to story moments like that

    • @sarkath77
      @sarkath77 19 дней назад +3

      Isn't that ariados uncatchable? Been a while since I fought it, I don't remember, but I feel like shiny locking uncatchable pokemon is a good move

    • @haroldnecmann7040
      @haroldnecmann7040 19 дней назад +2

      ​@@Shinntokubullsheeeit

  • @ub-06austin40
    @ub-06austin40 19 дней назад +18

    My main problem with Shiny Locking Pokémon is that they’ve been really inconsistent with it. I can get some locks, like uncatchable Pokémon, the Box Legendary Pokémon or stuff like Cosplay Pikachu, but they do a lot of weird things with it. In X and Y, they didn’t need to lock the birds or Mewtwo, and debatably didn’t need to lock Zygarde either. In Sun & Moon, they locked every Legendary except for Type: Null for some reason. Why only Type: Null? What makes that one special? And then in Sword and Shield, they turned around and locked Type: Null and Poipole for no real reason, as well as keeping Cosmog locked despite Solgaleo and Lunala being huntable in the same game. I can understand locking the Pokémon that are relevant to the story, but often times they lock ones that aren’t relevant, like Necrozma in Sun and Moon, or a handful of the Legendary Pokémon in Legends Arceus, and all the past Legendary Pokémon in Scarlet and Violet. Just make consistent rules, and make it make sense.

  • @Nika-207
    @Nika-207 19 дней назад +8

    My biggest problem with nowdays distributions is those Game Stop codes, there is no Game Stop in my country. So I wouldn't even have a chance to get codes for genesect, vulcanion and marshadow unless I leave country where I live.
    And this is a problem for me with distribution through stores. I am aware that there are a large number of these stores in the United States, but for me the closest one is in Germany

    • @bradwhite5884
      @bradwhite5884 18 дней назад

      Yep, as of last year, there's no more GameStop here because of reasons and only have Cex and a rare chance of finding a Sports Direct that has a GAME store inside their building, or head to my nearest Smyths stores for games, but I have to get a bus or a car to go to them because they are either in town or near an retail outlet, so yeah

  • @Missiletainn
    @Missiletainn 20 дней назад +48

    I really want shiny Meloetta to be released, I was so excited when I found out that you catch one in the Indigo Disk but finding out it was shiny locked hurt

    • @Turtle-Soup
      @Turtle-Soup  19 дней назад +16

      I’m glad they’re slowly making all the mythical Pokémon properly available outside of events, but keeping them shiny locked feels like salt in the wound over them not being available as shiny for so long.

  • @SanicAdventure
    @SanicAdventure 19 дней назад +48

    Shiny Locks aren't a bad idea as (like you said near the end of the video) locking uncatchable shinies is a pretty good thing,
    however them shiny locking every single legendary and mythical in PLA and S/V is so annoying.
    I get shiny locking the Box Art Legendaries but the Sub-legendaries and the returning ones? It's just gone too far.

    • @Turtle-Soup
      @Turtle-Soup  19 дней назад +10

      It’s super weird as they’ve really embraced shiny hunting in the switch era, giving so many different ways to hunt for them and even events with boosted odds, but then decided to also crack down on a certain set of them. It’s to the point where the new Regis being huntable feels like they just forgot to lock them.

    • @Mojaveknight17
      @Mojaveknight17 19 дней назад

      @@Turtle-Soup it's probably to protect themselves from false advertisement. Nintendo lawyers/ninjas mean business.

    • @Mobtrapper-hq8is
      @Mobtrapper-hq8is 19 дней назад +5

      @@Mojaveknight17no, they definitely forgot to shiny lock some SWSH encounters. That one Eldegoss that floats over the bridge on route 4, which can only be encountered once per save file is shiny locked, but the random corvisquire on the rock on route 3, that you can encounter as much as you want, is. The encounters in Kabu’s gym, which you get permanently locked out of after beating, aren’t locked.

    • @Mojaveknight17
      @Mojaveknight17 18 дней назад

      @@Mobtrapper-hq8is they didn't advertise those in trailers

    • @Mobtrapper-hq8is
      @Mobtrapper-hq8is 18 дней назад +2

      @@Mojaveknight17 yes, but the locking logic still makes no sense

  • @spymaster3657
    @spymaster3657 19 дней назад +17

    One thing I do have to correct you on is the fact that Alolan Raichu and Alolan Marowak are indeed shiny huntable in Sword and Shield through the Max Lair as you can find them as wild encounters however Alolan Exeggutor is not in the Max Lair so unfortunately, it's still in shiny jail in SWSH.

    • @Turtle-Soup
      @Turtle-Soup  19 дней назад +5

      Dang, I somehow completely forgot they were in there. Extra embarrassing given how much I’ve played the mode lol

  • @Shin_Aniki
    @Shin_Aniki 19 дней назад +20

    What's worse is that when Pokemon Go ends, there will no longer be a way to get legit shiny meltan,melmetal, Genesect, and Deoxys. Genesect is my favorite mythical/mythical shiny and it bugs me that I'll never be able to do a legit hunt for it on console.
    Also allegedly according to the SupremeRK9s when Gamefreak was asked why they shiny lock pokemon, it's to "preserve the wonder of encountering a legendary." In other words they want people to focus on the fact that they are facing a legendary instead of only caring about whether its shiny or not.

    • @TheRedSmarty
      @TheRedSmarty 18 дней назад +9

      When Pokémon GO ends, there will no longer be a way to get a legitimate Meltan or Melmetal, period.

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 17 дней назад +1

      Seeing "SupremeRK9" and "shiny" in the same sentence reminds me of the time he failed a shiny Giratina because his game froze in the middle of the night. 😂

  • @eduardog3000
    @eduardog3000 19 дней назад +10

    You missed spiky eared Pichu in HGSS. An understandable one since it’s both unique and (unfortunately) stuck in those games. And while you kinda mentioned it later, you didn’t fully go over Manaphy being the first (attempted) shiny lock.

    • @kalebmoody-felix7896
      @kalebmoody-felix7896 13 дней назад +1

      There's also the shadow pokemon in xd gale of darkness that are shiny locked. They were also supposed to be shiny locked in coliseum but weren't because of a bug

  • @Mugiwara2k
    @Mugiwara2k 18 дней назад +5

    It’s absolutely ridiculous that there are Pokémon going back to Gen 5 that STILL haven’t ever had legitimate releases (Like Keldeo or Meloetta)… That’s almost 15 years at this point.
    It’s one thing if they actually intended to release them, but to lock them and NEVER release them is just stupid.

  • @outrageouslamp4539
    @outrageouslamp4539 19 дней назад +8

    It really sucks that gen 9 broke the tradition of past legends being huntable. plus the way the treasures of ruins encounters work they easily could have not been locked.

    • @Turtle-Soup
      @Turtle-Soup  17 дней назад

      The new quartet being locked is some of the most unnecessary locking. They could easily be shiny huntable in the same way meloetta could, but unfortunately we’re gonna have to wait for distributions that may not even happen.

  • @megaman37456
    @megaman37456 19 дней назад +7

    This is why I hacked ORAS to remove the shiny locks.

  • @KimFareseed
    @KimFareseed 19 дней назад +7

    Somehow, I find that BDSP Spinda, the always dizzy Pokémon, being the one that gets left behind from an accidental reversal, of how its spot values are generated, is awefully funny, and somewhat fitting. Very much still annoying. Wonder how many BDSP Spindas remain in Pokémon Home before they got blocked.

    • @TheRedSmarty
      @TheRedSmarty 18 дней назад +1

      They were blocked from HOME transfer from the start.

  • @cynda1178
    @cynda1178 19 дней назад +26

    Shiny Locking is just Pokemon doing what Pokemon does best: scamming its fans.

  • @Shinntoku
    @Shinntoku 19 дней назад +19

    The only shiny locks that really bother me are the S/V snack legendaries, and that's only because the vast majority of them are easily available in other games

    • @Shinntoku
      @Shinntoku 19 дней назад +6

      Also as a side note, I think another reason for the gen 9 locks is because we're supposed to be meeting specific entities rather than random legendaries. Like the Raidons and Ogerpon and other legendaries are specific characters essentially, so visual continuity is seen as a bit more important

    • @Mobtrapper-hq8is
      @Mobtrapper-hq8is 19 дней назад +1

      @@Shinntokuyeah right, visual continuity on one traumatized ogre is more important than on the gods of time, space, and antimatter themselves

    • @Shinntoku
      @Shinntoku 19 дней назад +2

      @@Mobtrapper-hq8is ogerpon is a specific character, there are multiple dialga, palkia and giratina. Thanks for playing.

    • @Mobtrapper-hq8is
      @Mobtrapper-hq8is 19 дней назад +3

      @@Shinntoku where are you getting this? They’re gods. Why would there be multiple of them? Has there ever, between the games and anime, been any occurrence where 2 of them exist at once? I mean, I get your point for things like the Latis or the Kanto birds, where there’s definitely multiple of them, but not here

    • @Shinntoku
      @Shinntoku 19 дней назад +7

      @@Mobtrapper-hq8is gods in Japanese culture are able to exist in multiples, and in HGSS we can see Arceus create a new member of the creation trio in an egg for the player

  • @LuigiTheMetal64
    @LuigiTheMetal64 18 дней назад +3

    Taking away the freedom by scrapping the fun mechanics is a problem.

  • @vizzyboi1829
    @vizzyboi1829 19 дней назад +7

    Bro, I got Legends Arceus two months ago and recently started gunning for the Shiny Charm... and you're telling me that the reason I wanted the charm for in the first place is locked? My blue snake...

  • @violetcore1813
    @violetcore1813 19 дней назад +10

    Before The Indigo Disk dropped, I had heard that all the returning legendaries COULD be hunted. I was actually intrigued to try my hand at Kubfu and the horsies, as this would’ve been the first time they could be legitimately shiny. Too bad that turned out to be a lie.

    • @GumCow
      @GumCow 19 дней назад

      What annoys me is that the Riddler ku guy said that. My hopes were so high, cause I hated how tedious the max raids were.

  • @gerudo6876
    @gerudo6876 19 дней назад +13

    If i had to say, I'd want to hunt Victini or Marshadow. I know Marshadow's is weird, as you only see the shiny form sometimes, but I love my lil Spectral Thief, and Victini's shiny is so goddamn good.

    • @Turtle-Soup
      @Turtle-Soup  19 дней назад +2

      while it’s not a super noticeable one, I think marshadow’s shiny being the way it is funny so I’ve got a soft spot for it. Also it really is a crime that victini has never been available, easily a top 5 shiny mythical.

  • @kaiserknuckle9261
    @kaiserknuckle9261 19 дней назад +7

    I mostly hate it when its absolutely awesome shiny Pokemon like rayquaza that's shiny locked I really hate it

    • @Turtle-Soup
      @Turtle-Soup  19 дней назад +9

      Bringing back all those legendaries like rayquaza in Gen 9 with the updated models and textures and not letting you shiny hunt them is such an evil decision

    • @kaiserknuckle9261
      @kaiserknuckle9261 19 дней назад

      @Turtle-Soup exactly it's dumb

  • @JuliaCCCP
    @JuliaCCCP 19 дней назад +2

    Ditto cubes/blocks are uncatchable and not shiny locked

    • @THGMR-ox7sd
      @THGMR-ox7sd 18 дней назад +1

      My first ditto cube ever was a shiny 😢

  • @crowpond3665
    @crowpond3665 19 дней назад +7

    One thing that would’ve been cool is if the other Koraidon/Miraidon that was summoned from the machine was a shiny one
    That at least would’ve made things interesting
    But yeah shiny locked pokemon suck
    I understand having some shiny locked like some cutscene pokemon but not every pokemon needs to be shiny locked it sucks

  • @goatedpulls9201
    @goatedpulls9201 10 дней назад +2

    This feels frustrating because why would they care about people trying to shiny hunt these pokemon. It’s just makes this messy and insane how some Pokémon aren’t officially released shiny like victini.

  • @Mobtrapper-hq8is
    @Mobtrapper-hq8is 19 дней назад +4

    To further your point that shiny locks aren’t necessarily a bad thing, they just do it too much:
    Imagine, if you will, a world without shiny locks. Mythical distributions. You can only get one per user, only for a limited time. Still, some people got it shiny, and it would just be at random, only with a few in existence. Every NPC trainer could have a shiny that you can never catch. The route 1 Pokémon you see in the intro could be shiny. Pokémon in towns that just follow NPCs or sit in their houses all day could be shiny. The list goes on.

  • @tabub.xavier7142
    @tabub.xavier7142 16 дней назад +2

    Let's also talk about this:
    How dare they lock pokemon that "need to be consistent with the cutscene" meanwhile in Dynamax Adventures, you battle 4 whole ass pokemon that don't look shiny even if you CATCH AND USE THEM IN THE NEXT BATTLES WITHIN THE 4 POKEMON BATTLES. And remain that way UNTIL THE RESULTS SCREEN where they have a 1/300 (1/100 with charm) chance to SUDDENLY BE SHINY.😂

  • @eeveefennecfox
    @eeveefennecfox 18 дней назад +3

    shiny locking defeats the purpose to shinies :(

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 10 дней назад +1

    In general I just REALLY hate Event Exclusives and Mythical Pokemon... It kinda spits in the face of the whole "Gotta Catch Em All" slogan when some people are legitimately locked out of getting them. Not everyone has access to the events where these shinies are given out.
    And on top of that, they openly prevent you from trading mythical Pokemon in Pokemon Home, further limiting who has access to them. Its incredibly frustrating. I know its mostly a safety measure to prevent distribution of hacked Pokemon, but still... I wasn't able to complete the Pokedex in Pokemon Home to get that Magearna, all because I have no way to obtain the Mythical Pokemon (which for some reason are required :/).

  • @pokeperson1000
    @pokeperson1000 14 дней назад

    First shiny I ever remember finding (static red Gyarados aside) was a Magneton from the power plant in FRLG. My dumb elementary school ass was 1. So proud, and 2. Had no idea what to do. So I plugged the Gameboy Advanced SP into the charger, folded it shut, and proceeded to wait for my removed cousin to come back from high school (I lived with my aunt at the time).
    The minute he came home, I pulled out the game, still mid-battle, untouched, and just went “look”.
    So yeah, uh, he freaked out a little bit. Then he caught it.
    It was his game to begin with, but I think he either lost it or got rid of it somewhere down the line. Oh well.

  • @VictoriousVulpix
    @VictoriousVulpix 19 дней назад +2

    Found my first random shiny in HGSS. My first shiny hunt was Victini in BW because it seems so special, there was no way for me to know it was shiny locked at the time.

  • @croma3375
    @croma3375 4 дня назад

    In Sword and Shield Isle of Armor DLC the Alolan Forms trades with Regina aren't actually shiny locked (Serebii never removed them in their list at the bottom of the Shiny Pokémon page, a classic - they don't care about outdated games)

  • @vinspawz1138
    @vinspawz1138 17 дней назад

    the only times shiny lock was used in right way when they shiny locking wild poochyena tutorial from oras, shiny locking the pokemon that you cant get without enough badge in SwSh, Totem Ally in Alola Games

  • @trevorpacelli8056
    @trevorpacelli8056 18 дней назад +1

    This just makes me think: why bother giving some Pokemon a shiny form if they're never even going to be made available?

    • @THGMR-ox7sd
      @THGMR-ox7sd 18 дней назад +2

      It’s as a placeholder I guess?
      In case someone hacks the game but they could just make the shiny exactly the same as the normal if they’re not going to make the shiny available. Would be better than letting a cool shiny go to waste.

  • @darkdusk55
    @darkdusk55 19 дней назад +2

    At least you can get melloeta in scarlet and violet

  • @bradwhite5884
    @bradwhite5884 18 дней назад

    I dunno why they shiny locked Gimmieghoul and let it be shiny during certain tera raid event when it is the main Pokémon to battle, maybe because it is their milestone Pokémon for reaching the Pokedex number 999 and Gholdengo is its evolution of such, so yeah

  • @6Paths5Rings
    @6Paths5Rings 17 дней назад

    the static spectrier, glastrier and kubfu on sv locked made me so mad

  • @bradhaley8432
    @bradhaley8432 18 дней назад

    As for me Pokémon being shiny locked doesn't matter to me, especially when every single time i decided to shiny hunt for any Pokémon i ended up finding nothing. I've tried every single shiny hunting method, and I've always found nothing, but for some weird reason, i have more luck with full odds shiny Pokémon that appear in the wild randomly.

  • @Exlayer-pk8hy
    @Exlayer-pk8hy 17 дней назад

    I like how BDSP doesnt have the lock, was actually really hyped to get my hands on a shiny arceus

  • @Tristan_Shuler
    @Tristan_Shuler 18 дней назад +1

    Pretty sure they’ll continue shiny locking mythicals and legendaries so it forces you to play Pokémon Go for them. Which that game is a dumpster fire now.

  • @Revster
    @Revster 18 дней назад

    11:00 there’s several battles where you only find out if the Pokémon’s shiny after the boss fight though

  • @ll-qw3lt
    @ll-qw3lt 19 дней назад +1

    With some shinies they have an advantage or disadvantage but it was so small except tatsugiri

  • @matthewradtke9573
    @matthewradtke9573 11 дней назад

    Is it confirmed that the unova tour will be in February?

  • @jmurray1110
    @jmurray1110 18 дней назад

    I only started playing Pokémon and shiny hunt (hell I’m getting hms in scarier right now) and I hate the locks

  • @supermariogamer1757
    @supermariogamer1757 18 дней назад

    Yeah,shiny locking mythicals is stupid. The mythical pokemon have pretty amazing shinies

  • @Cumrel
    @Cumrel 19 дней назад +7

    As this point, why not just remove shinies entirely?

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 19 дней назад

      NO

    • @eeveefennecfox
      @eeveefennecfox 18 дней назад +2

      @@enoyna1001 then they need to remove the fucking shiny locks

  • @shomp82
    @shomp82 18 дней назад

    I got the Shiny gen.5 japanese Genesect event if any1 want!! had to pkhex it in, lol

  • @pixxyofice
    @pixxyofice 8 дней назад

    I love you gen 5 but i hate how this thing of yours was brought into the rest of the series

  • @GravityBouncer
    @GravityBouncer 18 дней назад +3

    super hot take: i think it’s so stupid that any Pokémon is ever shiny locked, but i also don’t think resetting a million times for hours is any better than being handed out codes.
    codes require no work and feel like you’re getting a shiny completely undeservingly (this also makes shinies less rare in a vacuum)
    shiny hunting however is also not necessarily “working” for your shiny imo. resetting, setting up multiple running games at the same time, chaining, whatever it is that’s best for each gen, is not a rewarding enough experience to make a shiny feel earned.
    anyone who’s stumbled upon a shiny randomly knows those early feelings of seeing one and either being confused, or freaking tf out. i think Legends Arceus has done the best job with shinies. the sound indicator, overworld Pokémon multiply the amount of encounters you’re experiencing exponentially, and the overall speed and late game options to boost those shiny chances for people who do want to hunt, combined with the gameplay, make the experience feel like you actually went out and DISCOVERED a shiny.
    idk, i think shiny hunting can be fun? but it never really feels earned or rewarding tbh. i would love an alternative method to acquiring shinies, not sure what it would be atm.

  • @insidious6068
    @insidious6068 7 дней назад

    Lol, the gen 5 games are NOT the best games in the franchise. At best, its best 3 with gen 3 and gen 4 being objectively better games.

  • @DilanQuill
    @DilanQuill 17 дней назад

    Outside of legendaries and maybe starters there's really no reason to shiny lock anything
    Also calling gen 5 one of the greatest gens is a real stretch.

  • @zacharyhudecz6644
    @zacharyhudecz6644 19 дней назад +1

    Pokémon's BEST Mechanic

  • @MahouPoint
    @MahouPoint 17 дней назад

    I really don’t care about shiny locking, it’s one less thing to worry about missing out on, just play the game

  • @Pax_Mayn3
    @Pax_Mayn3 19 дней назад +3

    In the end it's saving you insane amount of hours in life for a palette swap. If we could just be happy getting one randomly that would be one thing but our brains don't work that way.

    • @joj5150
      @joj5150 18 дней назад +2

      strange take

  • @JC-hi8fk
    @JC-hi8fk 19 дней назад +2

    Affection is a million times worse

    • @Sabisk879
      @Sabisk879 19 дней назад +5

      Nah it's great

  • @RamenCupBMG
    @RamenCupBMG 19 дней назад +1

    nah shiny locks are great because you need to catch or defeat the legendaries to move on with the story. I'm not trying to spend days or weeks resetting until I find it before moving an inch in the story to do it all over again with the next legendary. same with starters. shiny locking the starters is great, otherwise i'd never get to play the game even though i can hatch eggs later.

    • @modestfurret
      @modestfurret 19 дней назад +9

      Not locking them doesn’t take away your ability to hatch eggs later or hunt them in a separate playthrough etc? Nothing is stopping you from continuing the game even if they arent locked especially now on switch with the ability to have limitless files for the game

    • @toxin2770
      @toxin2770 19 дней назад +10

      It’s just an optional thing brother your not forced to do it

    • @Shin_Aniki
      @Shin_Aniki 19 дней назад +10

      If you don't want to shiny hunt the legendaries just don't. If you were never going to soft reset for a starter anyway why do you care if its locked?

    • @megaman37456
      @megaman37456 19 дней назад +4

      @RamenCupBMG Spoken like someone who absolutely doesn't understand jack shit.

    • @RealSkello
      @RealSkello 19 дней назад +3

      It’s always optional😭 Ehy not give people the option

  • @Mojaveknight17
    @Mojaveknight17 20 дней назад +2

    Gen5 is overrated