It took me a bit of time to realise why in the vaults of Fatherland Follies, the owner of those memories made himself look like such an unlikable spoiled crybaby, given that the entire rest of his mind was all about his own self aggrandisement. Then I realised - He's so completely childlike in his mental state that he genuinely thought his own self depiction there was completely normal and healthy, and that him running out of caviar wasn't him throwing a tantrum, he genuinely saw it as a Titanic-grade tragedy. This game, man.
What you expect he's is royalty to his homeland, when your royal there Is two motivation one will be responsible and pride, self discipline for the royalty hairatege two be boy or men who has diplomatic immunity became the most spoiled and heartless person that he's imitate. funny how lille beat him with a doll
The real tragedy is that this sad mofo ate Caviar with a metal spoon, I mean that completely ruins the flavor of caviar, the taste of the metal absorbs into the eggs, if you don't have a proper caviar spoon made of mother-of-pearl; you should either use a plastic spoon or your bare fingers. I mean I grew up poor but even I know caviar is not something you should touch with a metal spoon.
@@basedbattledroid3507 It looks like he's barehanding it in most of these pictures, unless I'm forgetting parts where he uses a spoon from the actual game. ...Actually, that brings up a point - I can see he's eating it out of tins - Wouldn't that screw the flavour up too?
He's still one of the less sympathetic figures in all psychonauts games Many people, including villains (Loboto, Orelander, Maliugla) have vaults that show another side to them, and the what pushed them to become more monstrous or Villainous Here? He's so spoiled that losing his precious caviar is the same thing as seeing 100s of people starve from a famine
@@quinnholloway5400 not only that - losing his caviar is _worse_ than his people dying in a famine! he doesn't care about them, just his fancy fish eggs. unfortunately, a fairly accurate depiction of ludicrously rich people
Some people are missing the metaphor of the caviar in maliks mind. It's not so much about the ACTUAL caviar, but rather the caviar is a symbolism of privilege luxury and spoiledness. Caviar is a very expensive luxury food and the fact he eats it as if it were chocolate symbolizes the silver spoon he was born into. Because it was taken away, and he had to readjust to a not so privileged lifestyle, he pulled all this crap and gave into his greed. It's quite interesting how they added an actual none fixable mind.
That and the non stop music in his head. Worse was the absolute silence when you kill the stereo. terrifying is the goddamn rollercoaster ride you go on at the end of the level.
He snacks on the literal concept of luxury. Other stories use caviar as a passing gag, like “haha, those rich people have a lifeboat with caviar” but this guy can’t be happy without it.
game hints at this but he handled the backlash a lot more, healthily, then the others. while the others kinda wallowed in self pity and really didnt find healthy adjustments Otto worked out his feelings with his machines, building them based on his emotions so he could understand them and threw that, he understood them. it wasn't entirily healthy cause his actions effected his friends, in particular he sorta forced 2 of them apart, but whatev. the others didnt do that and some couldnt. if their was a dlc diving into otto's mind I would assume it would go into escapism, as he has effectively avoided the issue entirely by focusing on the machines and the psychonauts.
I feel like Otto was originally going to be an accomplice to Gristol. In Loboto’s Brain they say a Psychic helped him break the trap, plus he was seemingly psychically coerced into silence. But Gristol isn’t Psychic. Additionally iirc in Rhombus of Ruin, Loboto planned to extract Raz’s Brain but that doesn’t come up again. So I think originally Otto would’ve been the second twist villain, and that part of the plot was cut for Budget, Time, or just to streamline the finale (Two back-to-back twist villain reveals might’ve been too much). Or maybe it’s all a Red Haring and this is actually all setup for Psychonauts 3 lol
@@cort1237 we also never get an answer as to who picked up the phone and denied sasha intel. Also its still up in the air how a mail clerk kidnapped the head hancho. Otto is realistically the only one that could make that work and would have the access +motivation to do so. With the game how it is it is actually amazing that a caviar obsessed spoiled brat managed to hold down a physically demanding job, kidnap the boss, and pull off what he did without any help. (Honestly tho, security is lackluster, and it didnt seem like they were paying much attention to "nick" givin the overall state of the mailroom. It wouldnt be surprising if he walked into zanatos office with a large empty box, stuffed him inside of it, and then just walked right out saying he made a mistake. The only plot hole to this, would be the phone call, unless the phone call got redirected to the ruin instead of hq? Would make sense. )
Before the big reveal he was my main guess for the villain/mastermind somehow. He was the least torn up about it it seemed, and maybe it was some "For Science!!" Motivation. But yeah pleasantly surprised as to the real villain.
Without context, Loboto's second memory vault is hilariously insane. With context, it's still hilariously insane. I mean, Agent Nein as a crazy punk anarchist is the best mental image of a monotone and reserved agent.
Love how signs of protestors say different thing according to different people. The mastermind sees them as saying stupid stuff, while in Lucy's memories it's more realistic things.
I'm getting that image of a scoreboard in a game a poor Japanese person had to write American names on and it was just first names in both places XD Much like 'Nick John'. Terry Fred. Jeff Simon. That sort of thing. Not the exact thing but it does make me wonder what actually makes the difference between a first name and surname.
@@Roadent1241 you're talking about that baseball game for the super Famicom lol. Some of the best names were Bobson Dugnutt, Todd Bonzales, Mike Truk, Sleve McDichael, and Glenallen Mixon
Seeing the mastermind’s memory vault makes him even pettier than before. The fall of Grulovia and loss of prestige didn’t bother him, but when he realised he was out of caviar, that’s when he finally desired revenge. He’s simply too self-absorbed to be considered even insane.
Well, when Raz confronts him if u choose certain dialogue Gristol will snap at him and tell him that he used to have a cotton candy machine in his room, he never actually mentions anything about him being a good leader or something about bringing back the glory to his country, he just wants his privilege
Well here’s the thing. We don’t know what the citizens were like. Maybe they had a violent protest, and maligula was acting as the gzar’s motherly figure until she got sent to the mind eraser.
@@jaykay8426 She wasn’t shutting down a violent protest. They were peacefully protesting against the Gzar hoarding all the wealth and food for himself while the country starved. Malugia was his attack dog, and she eventually broke and started trying to kill everyone. Gristol just saw them as violent because they were against the system where he had everything he wanted.
@@jaykay8426 He was a child at the time. A child who apparently considered living in a penthouse of a five-star hotel to be 'living in poverty'. He's deluded himself into thinking Grulovia was great under his family's rule, just because he had whatever he wanted. To him, the protestors would've been evil, violent people because they wanted to stop his family from doing whatever they wanted. And since Maligula was keeping his family in power, she was a hero to him.
5:34 seeing Helmut/psi-King's fate is one of the biggest tragedies of this whole Meligula/Lucy ordeal aside from Ford and the aquatos. His body was knocked into a frozen sea while his brain was miraculously jettisoned from his body. He was placed within his allies old hideouts. When his leader and most well trusted friend had unintentionally forgotten him in the Act of shattering his own mind protect the one he loved and for the family he had given her to. causing his lover extreme grief and depression at the belief that the one he loved was dead. While the rest of his friends scattered and drifted apart over the years either completely losing themselves mentally or suffering from incredible trauma making the powers uncontrollable. Psychonauts amazes me of how it looks like such a cheery good adventurous kid game but when you start to read deep into it you learn the sad and disturbing lore
I'm not sure Ford tried to shatter his own mind. That seems like an accident, I think he just wanted to erase his memories of lucy. Notice that every other time the Astralathe is successfully used, there are two parties involved. One to be affected by it and the other to operate it. Ford used it on himself, something that doesn't seem all that smart, but he didn't trust anyone else with the reason why. In hindsight, he probably should have informed the others about Helmut before he did it, but he probably felt he needed to cover his tracks first. It just went a lot further than he planned.
@@TheUltimegaMan Which you can also see at 5:49 too (where he uses what looks funnily like smelling salts to do it... Unless he put sneezing powder in the same container)!
@@johanneshjortshj8646 No pretty sure he did. The way he says it In game makes it seem like he shattered it intentionally. He was worried a psychic would be able to piece his mind back together, and find out why he had done it. Shattering his mind was the only way to ensure no one EVER found out.
8:38 Not to take away from the focus of the scene, but can we appreciate how cute it is that Bob and Helmet are drinking wine together in lawn chairs while watching tv in the back of Helmet’s van?
I would honestly do the same, social interaction and games are a great way for helping newly made sentient creatures adjust to well...being more self aware!
I love that every vault, through every mind in all the games, give you a reason to sympathize with characters. Whether it be Loboto, Oleander, Lucy, heck, even the giant hulking lungfish gave you a vault that made you sympathize with her. And then you see Malik's. And for the first time you feel...nothing. the only thing driving him being his lust for caviar (is it even that good? Or is it just because he was practically raised eating it?). It's the only one that makes you feel like hating a character more and I love it.
caviar's pretty damn good and its less of a luxury in russia and baltic states where sturgeons and belugas can be found in higher quantities and is farmed more. You can realistically buy caviar as an average guy once a month or so without really hurting your bottom line too too much.
Judging from a mid-stage dialogue, Malik's reasoning for his adoration for caviar is as shallow as "it's just eggs; but the most expensive eggs money can buy". Heck, when inspected closely, caviar in his mindscape is depicted as ornated in gold patterns! So for Malik, caviar is the ambrosia that reaffirms his monetary security and opulence.
Oleander had a butcher dad who killed his bunnies and the military refused him Loboto's parents hated the fact he had psychic powers because he wasn't a perfect little boy, so they lobotomized him and probably wrecked his brain Lucy (or Maligula) was probably peer pressured to do all those kills and one of them was her sister, causing the last bit of sanity and reasoning to slip away Gristol i just.......................uhh, he lost caviar and thats his motivation, you know what he sucks
@@homoxymoronomatura Not really...patents as a concept hold society back and leads to ALOT of needless suffering. Like if I came up with a life saving drug, ONLY to then hoard that knowledge through a patent thus denying this miracle medicine from reaching as many people as possible I would be rightfully seen as a monster and ashole. Basically I don't care about making money, just helping to make the world a better place, at the very least I would ask for credit or acknowledgement, BUT I desire NO praise nor privilege!
@@justsomenumpty not really. She made 1 connection that led to many related connections, completely changing his entire thought process. And because these new connections conflicted with his past actions so drastically, he snapped. “If plagiarism is bad, then that means I’ve done a lot of bad things, that im bad, that I should be guilty,” etc. It’s exactly what happened with Raz: 1 flawed correlation leads to many others that can completely throw a person off track.
The moment you realize in the first game Cruller acting like different people wasn’t just a crazy old cuckoo being silly gag, but rather a the result of losing the love of his life and unable to cope is with his trauma is dark and sad as hell.... :,(
@@dreamfire3133 I don’t think he did that on purpose, I think he tried to just lock away the memories of Lucy to protect her and things went wrong from there. After all if he intended to break his mind how would he be able to help fullbear.
@@joshuawall646 I figured he shattered his mind on purpose as the method for locking away those memories. The whole thing with helmet really makes him look bad for sure.
Seeing Lucy's memory vault for the first time made me truly realize who she really was, not a monster who committed mass murder and got away with it but someone who tried to help her country but who's mind was twisted until it snapped, seeing that the flooding was an accident and seeing her dead sister causing her mind to snap turned my dislike and distain for her into pity and empathy.
Poor Bob having to loose his mother then facing the tragedy of loosing his lover on top of getting fire and now reduce to drinking to try to forget his tragedy. I like the fact that his stage has a moth who is trying to protect him from the trauma he faced. Helmut also has PSTD after what he went through which is really messed up.
Take another look at Bob's first memory. After his father's passing, his mother keeps visiting the greenhouse after dark. Shortly after, she died as well. When Bob went to open the locked greenhouse, a vine appeared to offer him a bottle of alcohol. And another...and another...and another...
god i just wanna give them both a hug. especially bob :( also the alcohol symbolism of the moth is really interesting... i like how at the end of the stage it appears as just a cardboard mask covering bob's eyes, which he takes off, has a long look at and then throws away. he's realised that drinking wasn't protecting him from bad memories, but suppressing the good ones as well, and actively making his life worse. now he can see more clearly, and start taking steps towards getting better.
@@hershelroswell one of the other little bits at the end of that level that I really like is how a bunch more seeds float up and Bob is just like "I guess I'll have to handle them one at a time." Raz didn't just automatically fix him, but he put him back on the right track, and now Bob can finally begin managing his trauma for himself. One of the very few complaints I've heard about the first game was that Raz seemingly made trivial the mental disorders he fought against. Real mental health issues aren't something you can just psi-blast out of existence. I love that they're addressing that problem with the first game to some extent. Raz is still being incredibly helpful and impacting people's minds for the better, and yet there's still this level of compassion and empathy that goes into telling each characters' stories.
@@ninjapotatolorf6237 yeah!!! it's really heartfelt and sweet in a way that made me genuinely tear up. i like how psychonauts 2 puts a bit more emphasis on healing as a journey taken step by step, rather than something that happens all at once.
@@ninjapotatolorf6237 To be fair against that original critique, in our world, we cannot confront mental disorders as directly as Raz or other Psychonauts can. And even in the original, I'd argue that Raz does much what he does here. He confronts and beats down the problems they face, but ultimately it is up to the individuals to manage their own issues, which they ultimately do.
They were a Balkan Eastern Bloc nation in the Sixties, and also a Monarchistic Throwback to Czarist Russia. The real surprise is how they survived as long as they did.
@@josemejias5656 Because any Balkan state like it during the time period would be a prime target for literally any nation neighboring. The Balkans were notoriously unstable for much of the 20th century. Grulovia's class despairity would've made it a prime target for the Warsaw Pact to basically usurp. Chances are that was the invasion that Lucretia went back to stop. Point is their behavior is not entirely surprising given their nationalistic origins and cultural references. What surprises me is that it took a psychic being driven into a murderous rampage by their own actions to end their rule and not a massive violent uprising much sooner.
I just find the sight of the punk Raz in the second Loboto memory vault just tearing open the shower doors and scaring the mad Dentist. It reminds me of the Squidward "don't they know I'm spoiling myself-AAAAAAAAAAAH!" meme.
Man, that’s one way to make one of your antagonist’s a bit more simpithetic while having the other more hated. Lucy didn’t mean to kill, she wasn’t even trying to, it was all an incident, and it was seeing the death of her sister that finally made her snap. Meanwhile we have our little mole, the instigator of it all, who turns out to be nothing more than a spoiled brat who thinks he can get away with anything because he was related to royalty. I suppose he is partially granted to be mad at his father for ruining their lives. If he was a better king that listened to his citizens, maybe none of this would have happened. However, it is hard to find someone nowadays that has any form of power over another and still retain some form of humanity.
Except!! Worse yet, he doesn't blame his father for being a bad ruler, he blames the "peasants" for being "mean"- he thinks of them as being monsters in the first memory, an then in the seconds as them being stupid. He never once thinks they have something valid things to say, never once thinks the nobility even might be in the wrong. He completely and utterly lacks empathy.
@@GCatlord also, in all the slides the peasants blend into the background, and barely have any defining features. In contrast to this, the royal family is drawn in detail, and maligula was given a glow/halo when she was shown killing the peasants. Just goes to show how little gristol thought of his people.
alot of people call others "narcissists" because they are greedy or something (atleast from what ik) not true narcissism a true narcassist iirc is someone who can ONLY view the world by how it affects them, and gristol is a perfect example of that gristol likes caviar > protesters force family into exile > exile means no caviar > must revive maligula to restore order and get more caviar every single thought process of his i can see is NEVER about others, only himself and maligula, the person who can help him the most in his eyes
The projection of Truman being mad maybe internal feelings Bob had, or that time had coated the memory of what happened itself into a more negative one(Well time and alcohol). Hell, Truman was probably forced to do it. Maybe he even thought it might of helped Bob to get his stuff together since likely he hadn't been the same since Helmut ate it.
If you wait long enough at the last section of the 2nd bottle, you hear the full conversation between Truman and Bob. Truman actually gave Bob a number to call, heavily implied to be Alcoholics Anonymous, but Bob got angry, saying he's not gonna "Just call up some stranger 'cause you think something's wrong with me!". Truman clearly had no choice but to let Bob go because of how terribly his drinking was affecting himself and others and was trying to get him help, but Bob only saw it as his nephew getting rid of him and rejected a chance to get help. But deep down, he knows Truman did the right thing, and he can't deny that.
2:06 holy cow, Ford had already shattered his own mind before they even had Helmut’s funeral? that’s so sad, especially considering he’s the one reading the sermon - he wasn’t even able to fully mourn him because he was already so gone.
Psi-king's Sensorium makes me appreciate how they make you come back for certain memory vaults so that would have more context for them and so they would hit harder.
Nona's call for help breaks my heart, just look at 15:51, all of the Seven Psychonauts have lost half of their life in regret and shame, but Lucy was tortured inside her own mind by her memories and Maligula, It's really messed up
So Hollis was a well experienced doctor, and quite dedicated to her work, only for Potts to steal her glory by making a little change on her book to make it look like it was his work. In revenge, she decided to study mental connections to mess with Pott's mind, but she took it too far, making him go crazy. She felt regretful by her own actions that he had to call a Psychonaut to fix Pott's mental instability. She felt guilty for what she did, but she got another chance of gain success in becoming a Psychonaut
Bob's story just... hurts. You know what's also sad about his memory vault? In everyone else's, we see them with Bob at Helmut's funeral, but Bob's has him be alone. Then his nephew has to fire him because his drinking problem and he is all alone again. Loneliness and drinking is Bob's constant vice and state of mind. The poor guy. He spent years thinking everyone abandoned him. He even knew what Lili looked like which means Truman probably tried reaching out with photos, but he just... he was too hurt still.
I feel like bob and helmet became the stars for me... it was so sad...so heartwarming and when there together talking its just so so so damn emotional. def need a dlc with bob and helmet.
What's even crazier is the fact that Gristol probably implanted the "psychic brain war tank" idea into Oleander's mind in the first game when he went to Whispering Rock, I mean how else can you explain away the oddball egg imagery? Not only that but in the finale to Fatherland Follies it shows his vision of Grulovia returning and becoming a stronger country than it was, going across what looked like a spinning globe...an international power, we can't rule out that he had a militant ideology driven motive...to fuel his lavish lifestyle any quash anyone who would interrupt it...
I recognize Helmut Fulbear's problem as sensory deprivation, Compton Boole's as extreme anxiety, Ford Cruller's as dissociative Identity disorder and Bob Zanotto's as alcoholism born of depression. But I can't seem to place what Cassie O'Pia is suffering from. Does anyone know?
@@johanneshjortshj8646 well Cassie also had elements of it with the 4 aspects of her in her mind, so maybe she has a lesser version of it as unlike with Ford, they don't show as bad as his. Her main problem I can think of is either her inferiority in not being able to help as much(in her own mind) trying to get Lucy back, as seen with the overbearing Librarian being overly negative to positive emotions until defeated by incorporating all the aspects together, not only fixing her psyche but also helping her discover herself, but that's just my interpretation.
To me it seems like she has an inferiority complex. This’s shown with how she creates different psyches in order to try and be “useful,” and with how inadequate she felt in the battle with Maligula. The librarian, much like the bees, is meant to be a symbolic representation of her fear of inadequacy, hence why they both decide to keep her locked away from others in order to “protect” her.
Massive amounts of anxiety for sure and it seems she was having an identity crisis. The last game had pretty obvious disorders for each character but this one doesn't seem to follow that pattern
@@redrasegarden The King became nervous/afraid of Maligula's WMD-like power and wanted her executed after she seemingly killed off all the opposition to his rule (the protestors). He fled after he found the dead executioner's body in his pool; abandoning his country and his royalty after Maligula turned full kill-everyone mode.
@@redrasegarden Oh, I'll explain. Well, first you have to understand that the Prince is deluded about his childhood in Grulovia (FFS, he saw himself as a genius-kid showing the rest of the Grulovia government how to increase the economy as well as caviar). That specific memory is his interpretation of that peaceful protest that was a catalyst to Maligula going completely insane. His interpretation is everything was perfectly fine and he was a super-loved royal genius-prince. Then violent invaders (peaceful citizens) came one day to kill him but his "heroine" (the Maliks' main political force to enforce their rule) "saved him". After she "saved him", he saw it as his father/king cowardly betraying Maligula for no reason. His illusions and delusions about the actual events prevent him from comprehending that Maligula was just a psychopath becoming unstably out-of-control murderous and the King tried to kill her for that reason (before she'd eventually kill them too). He see Maligua as a flawless hero who upheld standard of living that was no-reason betrayed by his father.
At 8:06, the country discontinued stamp is the glove from the yellow submarine! I love that movie so much, im happy double fine took so much inspiration from it
He's so punk!! I want to see an AU where this is the sort of teen he was!! I was more taken aback by Raz in this, honestly. I didn't even notice him, thanks for pointing that out!
I love how Hollis developed. Yes, she did mistakes, but she went the effort to fix them by calling the psychonauts, and after Truman Zanotto himself pulls up and fixes the doctor, he offers her a chance to use her abilities for good. He fixed her problems *and* insured she‘d use her abilities for good.
Darn, Cassie's story is really depressing if you think about it. No young child should be abandoned, & be forced to make difficult decisions at a young age to defend themselves. Cassie was forced into the outlaw life, & when she got caught, she seemed to be having a mental breakdown. She must've been so scared. That & when she told the truth, she discovered that the police was corrupt, which possibly made things worse for her. That & when the fight with Maligua occured & her methods (trying to get her to calm down through words) didn't work, it Must've been so distressful. When she reached out to others, they were busy, leading her to be alone like she was in her childhood. She started feeling useless(which is a HORRIBLE feeling), & then her powers went out of control, leading her to be unable to speak with others(until Raz came in, of course). Dear lord, someone throw a party for her or something. Or any of the other characters' parties as well, They all went through something horrible.
@@velvetdraws3452 ✨✨ Traumatized Bee Buddies! ✨✨ (I do agree though, thank goodness they have each other! They're a wonderful QPR, or at least that's how I view it)
ok one thing still bothers me Nick John Smith is not psychic. but loboto had help from a psychic to construct his mental defenses and we see that other person in his mind (he kind of looks like nick wearing the big crown) as he points to the implanted memory of Maligula so is nick psychic or is there another person pulling the strings?
You have to remember he’s the son of the king of a dictator nation he probably learned from some torture techniques from his old man and the bottle is at the most strong-willed of people … you know because of the lobotomy his parents gave him to get rid of his psychic powers he’s a pretty easy man to torture into silence
I think Nick just used hypnotism, maybe with a side of torture. The memory of being hypnotised wouldn't show up in loboto's mind because, y'know, hypnotism, and the memory of hypnotising loboto doesn't seem all that important to Nick.
@@john.harrison it was probably only paid to kidnap the guy he was paid to kidnap and after you got that guy then gristle came back to do the torture (or maybe the hiring memory vault was embellishing some facts seeing as in the” psychics ruin everything” memory vault he remembers the psycho not being in different clothing and doing things they didn’t actually do)
@@elizabethfaith4247 yeah, in the first game, Oleander had a very easy to access fabricated memory showing him as one wonderful man of war, while the real memory is hidden somewhere else and shows he actually failed to join any area of the army (not even as a cook), so chances are this was also fake memory made to keep the Psychonauts walking in circles, while the real one is somewhere very hidden away
A few of them can only be accessed after the game due to the projection ability being needed, but imo i missed a few obvious ones. This lays out the story so well, I love how it fills the holes that were missing in the games narrative.
Memory vaults usually contain stuff that the host brain has sealed away, on purpose or unconsciously. His wedding was so much on display, I doubt he would seal it even if he wanted to.
In the first game, you see the small memories and consequences of the past life of each one of the characters and creatures. But you was a stranger in their minds. In the second, you are discovering their woes, their pains and their losses that made them a team (or just discovering the motivation on Mastermind) and while trying to reunite them together to solve the main problem.
Thanks, I really didn’t want to go back and collect all the vaults, in two years when I play through the psychonauts series again, I’ll go for it but i don’t want to right now.
2 questions about the Ford / Lucy thing: 1 - Ford just got really unlucky with Augustus turning about to be psychic, right? Otherwise it seems pretty convenient that one of his kids happened to be psychic 2 - What exactly caused Nona to "snap" and give Raz the Whispering Rock brochure? Was that her old self, subconsciously trying to undo the damage Ford had done to her?
What caused the Nona personality to crack was seeing Raz use psychic powers, in that moment she had a choice between helping him reach his full potential and not using knowledge from her old life. Family won out.
I think he also was wrong to abandon his friends rather than live with what he’d done. None of them had the luxury of forgetting like he did, they needed his support.
Important to note that Helmut and Bobby memories indicating they were together were all locked behind after you see that scene on Bobby's brain, the hallway one were Raz walks slowly.
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As a Steven Universe fan who had eventually fell out with the series due to its progression I can agree that the original shows lore it's quite the bumpy road
GOD please don't compare it with that woke trash, I hate how SU managed mental health stuff, specially depression because it showed that they didn't investigated shit about it and it was super disrespectful (I'm saying this from the place of someone who has a family member with depression), hugs and blaming each other for it are NOT the way to handle it
@@theshiro1238 that’s funny because that becomes a BIG plot point in SU: Future where it’s addressed hug and kisses don’t fix problems. I say this as someone who grew up with a paranoid schizophrenic parent.
@@thatonegirljonesy9750 Future is awfully handled, there's a difference between a mature story and an edgy story where they will make the mc act like a monster because they didn't bother to actually take the time to do it well, I understand if u think it's good but objectively speaking is awfully done
One thing I think a lot of people miss in that last one. Nick/Malik was FULLY aware his father tried to have her killed, and that was the reason they fled. THAT'S why he hates his father. Not because he left, but because he managed to turn the greatest asset of their country against them. That's also why he, in the Zanato's body, was groveling that way. He KNEW she might not be pleased with him thanks to association with his father, so he figured he'd butter her up, treat her like a goddess, and he the Pharaoh supplicating himself before her. He likely thought don't so, showing her the respect she was due, might get her on his side. He just hadn't realized the reason his dad wanted her dead. This version of the woman's mind was...not nice, and saw no reason for anyone else, or any future. She is the fight or flight response stuck forever on fight. She can't think of past or future, only now, and now means she must wash away any threat.
It’s weird how they chose to make Helmut’s memory vaults locked behind the post game, since you gain the ability to collect them after you go to Green Needle Gulch, but in Green Needle Gulch, you can’t return to Minds you’ve already visited until you beat the game. It’s odd to say the least.
Two things. 1. You can use the Brain Tumbler in the Heptadome to revisit brains before you finish the game. 2. If you could see Helmut's memory vaults before you completed the level, you would be spoiled of the reveal that psi king is Helmut.
@@nestalert How can you return to the Heptadome in the Green Needle Gulch section? I thought that once you go to Green Needle Gulch you’re locked into that hub until you beat the game, no longer able to return to the Motherlobe
There's a couple of these that are good, "Nona's Call for Help" and "I was Only Trying to Help," are my favorites. But too many of these vaults are showing what we already know or have seen through the main story, and it feels like a waste of potential. None of these vaults have the dramatic reveals of the old game like Milla's Children or Oleander's Shame.
I bet in the third game raz will talk to the true gzar of grulovia and not just nick from the mailroom. I would be surprised if they don’t include nick’s father
i don't understand what you mean?? they are still humans. there are still different races. just because they're blue/ purple/ whatever doesn't mean they cant have a race. hollis' backstory in the hospital is based on the common occurrence of black women being overshadowed and plagiarized by others. I know this because they literally mention it being a source for her character in the documentary about the game's development, i think it fits and is highlighting a pretty important issue...
@Greyson Midori He's probably refering to how Grulovia is clearly a dead ringer for Russia and the fact a lot of Soviet propaganda used to depict royalty as a bunch of self centered, incompetent and stupid assholes. And it just happens that some of the more important events in the game backstory are directly or indirectly caused by self centered, incompetent and stupid nobles that wanted to stay in power and live a life of luxury, no matter the price. Long story short: Tsar man bad.
@@Sonlirain I mean, that seems less like Soviet propaganda, more like the usual "greedy, selfish leaders will always cause their people's downfall" story
Anti-royal sentiment is hardly unique to the Soviets, more likely an Eastern European setting fit the “traveling circus people with roots in the old country” schtick. Maybe you need to get _your_ brain checked out too.
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No one talks about how Nona was the one who put Raz on his path to the camp, I love how it all loops back together
She seeked help from the Psychonauts, holy crap! Lucrecia was in there and knew that if Raz got into the psychonauts, she'd get help!
So in a way her mind knew what to do but it was locked up and she asked for help the only way she could by helping raz
It took me a bit of time to realise why in the vaults of Fatherland Follies, the owner of those memories made himself look like such an unlikable spoiled crybaby, given that the entire rest of his mind was all about his own self aggrandisement. Then I realised - He's so completely childlike in his mental state that he genuinely thought his own self depiction there was completely normal and healthy, and that him running out of caviar wasn't him throwing a tantrum, he genuinely saw it as a Titanic-grade tragedy.
This game, man.
What you expect he's is royalty to his homeland, when your royal there Is two motivation one will be responsible and pride, self discipline for the royalty hairatege two be boy or men who has diplomatic immunity became the most spoiled and heartless person that he's imitate. funny how lille beat him with a doll
The real tragedy is that this sad mofo ate Caviar with a metal spoon, I mean that completely ruins the flavor of caviar, the taste of the metal absorbs into the eggs, if you don't have a proper caviar spoon made of mother-of-pearl; you should either use a plastic spoon or your bare fingers.
I mean I grew up poor but even I know caviar is not something you should touch with a metal spoon.
@@basedbattledroid3507 It looks like he's barehanding it in most of these pictures, unless I'm forgetting parts where he uses a spoon from the actual game.
...Actually, that brings up a point - I can see he's eating it out of tins - Wouldn't that screw the flavour up too?
He's still one of the less sympathetic figures in all psychonauts games
Many people, including villains (Loboto, Orelander, Maliugla) have vaults that show another side to them, and the what pushed them to become more monstrous or Villainous
Here? He's so spoiled that losing his precious caviar is the same thing as seeing 100s of people starve from a famine
@@quinnholloway5400 not only that - losing his caviar is _worse_ than his people dying in a famine! he doesn't care about them, just his fancy fish eggs. unfortunately, a fairly accurate depiction of ludicrously rich people
Some people are missing the metaphor of the caviar in maliks mind. It's not so much about the ACTUAL caviar, but rather the caviar is a symbolism of privilege luxury and spoiledness. Caviar is a very expensive luxury food and the fact he eats it as if it were chocolate symbolizes the silver spoon he was born into. Because it was taken away, and he had to readjust to a not so privileged lifestyle, he pulled all this crap and gave into his greed. It's quite interesting how they added an actual none fixable mind.
That and the non stop music in his head. Worse was the absolute silence when you kill the stereo.
terrifying is the goddamn rollercoaster ride you go on at the end of the level.
@@acecadet2587 yes I agree. You actually end up getting a trophy if you smash all the record players lol. But it's very eerie
He snacks on the literal concept of luxury. Other stories use caviar as a passing gag, like “haha, those rich people have a lifeboat with caviar” but this guy can’t be happy without it.
I mean, him simply not having caviar anymore also works. It makes his motivation and himself even more pathetic.
@@BaronB.BlazikenBaronOfBarons yeah you're right! I just think it's fun to find metaphors or deeper meaning into things lol. Either way hes ridiculous
Seems like Otto was the only member of the Psychic 6 that got off easy after the battle with Maligula compared to the rest of his friends.
I forget he was even a member of the Psychic Seven, since he's still doing well, and he's the only one who's mind you don't enter.
game hints at this but he handled the backlash a lot more, healthily, then the others.
while the others kinda wallowed in self pity and really didnt find healthy adjustments Otto worked out his feelings with his machines, building them based on his emotions so he could understand them and threw that, he understood them. it wasn't entirily healthy cause his actions effected his friends, in particular he sorta forced 2 of them apart, but whatev.
the others didnt do that and some couldnt.
if their was a dlc diving into otto's mind I would assume it would go into escapism, as he has effectively avoided the issue entirely by focusing on the machines and the psychonauts.
I feel like Otto was originally going to be an accomplice to Gristol. In Loboto’s Brain they say a Psychic helped him break the trap, plus he was seemingly psychically coerced into silence. But Gristol isn’t Psychic. Additionally iirc in Rhombus of Ruin, Loboto planned to extract Raz’s Brain but that doesn’t come up again. So I think originally Otto would’ve been the second twist villain, and that part of the plot was cut for Budget, Time, or just to streamline the finale (Two back-to-back twist villain reveals might’ve been too much). Or maybe it’s all a Red Haring and this is actually all setup for Psychonauts 3 lol
@@cort1237 we also never get an answer as to who picked up the phone and denied sasha intel.
Also its still up in the air how a mail clerk kidnapped the head hancho.
Otto is realistically the only one that could make that work and would have the access +motivation to do so.
With the game how it is it is actually amazing that a caviar obsessed spoiled brat managed to hold down a physically demanding job, kidnap the boss, and pull off what he did without any help.
(Honestly tho, security is lackluster, and it didnt seem like they were paying much attention to "nick" givin the overall state of the mailroom. It wouldnt be surprising if he walked into zanatos office with a large empty box, stuffed him inside of it, and then just walked right out saying he made a mistake. The only plot hole to this, would be the phone call, unless the phone call got redirected to the ruin instead of hq? Would make sense. )
Before the big reveal he was my main guess for the villain/mastermind somehow. He was the least torn up about it it seemed, and maybe it was some "For Science!!" Motivation. But yeah pleasantly surprised as to the real villain.
Without context, Loboto's second memory vault is hilariously insane.
With context, it's still hilariously insane. I mean, Agent Nein as a crazy punk anarchist is the best mental image of a monotone and reserved agent.
Tbh these punk versions of their designs are really cool, might draw them later
and then there's milla who's seems to be a crazy drunk like bejsus loboto
Love how signs of protestors say different thing according to different people. The mastermind sees them as saying stupid stuff, while in Lucy's memories it's more realistic things.
I like how Gristol’s idea of an everyday person name so he could fit in was “Nick Johnsmith” and everybody fell for it
I'm getting that image of a scoreboard in a game a poor Japanese person had to write American names on and it was just first names in both places XD
Much like 'Nick John'. Terry Fred. Jeff Simon. That sort of thing. Not the exact thing but it does make me wonder what actually makes the difference between a first name and surname.
I mean it's relatively normal, but still somewhat out there.
@@Roadent1241 Oh yeah I know what you're talking about lol. I guess names are all made up anyway but we can tell when something sounds weird
@@Bread_Bug Yes we can. I just haven't figured out the system we made yet.
@@Roadent1241 you're talking about that baseball game for the super Famicom lol. Some of the best names were Bobson Dugnutt, Todd Bonzales, Mike Truk, Sleve McDichael, and Glenallen Mixon
Seeing the mastermind’s memory vault makes him even pettier than before. The fall of Grulovia and loss of prestige didn’t bother him, but when he realised he was out of caviar, that’s when he finally desired revenge. He’s simply too self-absorbed to be considered even insane.
Well, when Raz confronts him if u choose certain dialogue Gristol will snap at him and tell him that he used to have a cotton candy machine in his room, he never actually mentions anything about him being a good leader or something about bringing back the glory to his country, he just wants his privilege
Well here’s the thing. We don’t know what the citizens were like. Maybe they had a violent protest, and maligula was acting as the gzar’s motherly figure until she got sent to the mind eraser.
@@jaykay8426 She wasn’t shutting down a violent protest. They were peacefully protesting against the Gzar hoarding all the wealth and food for himself while the country starved. Malugia was his attack dog, and she eventually broke and started trying to kill everyone. Gristol just saw them as violent because they were against the system where he had everything he wanted.
@@cybertramon0012 that is true, the signs said stuff like “I’m dumb” on it. But what about the shadowy figures in the first vault?
@@jaykay8426 He was a child at the time. A child who apparently considered living in a penthouse of a five-star hotel to be 'living in poverty'. He's deluded himself into thinking Grulovia was great under his family's rule, just because he had whatever he wanted. To him, the protestors would've been evil, violent people because they wanted to stop his family from doing whatever they wanted. And since Maligula was keeping his family in power, she was a hero to him.
5:34 seeing Helmut/psi-King's fate is one of the biggest tragedies of this whole Meligula/Lucy ordeal aside from Ford and the aquatos. His body was knocked into a frozen sea while his brain was miraculously jettisoned from his body. He was placed within his allies old hideouts. When his leader and most well trusted friend had unintentionally forgotten him in the Act of shattering his own mind protect the one he loved and for the family he had given her to. causing his lover extreme grief and depression at the belief that the one he loved was dead. While the rest of his friends scattered and drifted apart over the years either completely losing themselves mentally or suffering from incredible trauma making the powers uncontrollable.
Psychonauts amazes me of how it looks like such a cheery good adventurous kid game but when you start to read deep into it you learn the sad and disturbing lore
I'm not sure Ford tried to shatter his own mind. That seems like an accident, I think he just wanted to erase his memories of lucy. Notice that every other time the Astralathe is successfully used, there are two parties involved. One to be affected by it and the other to operate it. Ford used it on himself, something that doesn't seem all that smart, but he didn't trust anyone else with the reason why. In hindsight, he probably should have informed the others about Helmut before he did it, but he probably felt he needed to cover his tracks first. It just went a lot further than he planned.
Well, it wasn’t technically “miraculously” ejected, he did mention that he used sneezing powder to lose his brain during the fight with Maligula.
@@TheUltimegaMan Which you can also see at 5:49 too (where he uses what looks funnily like smelling salts to do it... Unless he put sneezing powder in the same container)!
@@johanneshjortshj8646 No pretty sure he did. The way he says it In game makes it seem like he shattered it intentionally. He was worried a psychic would be able to piece his mind back together, and find out why he had done it. Shattering his mind was the only way to ensure no one EVER found out.
You'd think Ford would have left a note or something. "Helmut's Brain" taped to the jar, or something.
8:38 Not to take away from the focus of the scene, but can we appreciate how cute it is that Bob and Helmet are drinking wine together in lawn chairs while watching tv in the back of Helmet’s van?
Loboto: Yes i have finally made living sentient fish!..
Time to play poker
I could practically hear his voice saying that, well done.
Texas hold em'!
I would honestly do the same, social interaction and games are a great way for helping newly made sentient creatures adjust to well...being more self aware!
Well, in the end, aren't we all just fish playing poker?
I love that every vault, through every mind in all the games, give you a reason to sympathize with characters. Whether it be Loboto, Oleander, Lucy, heck, even the giant hulking lungfish gave you a vault that made you sympathize with her.
And then you see Malik's. And for the first time you feel...nothing. the only thing driving him being his lust for caviar (is it even that good? Or is it just because he was practically raised eating it?). It's the only one that makes you feel like hating a character more and I love it.
caviar's pretty damn good and its less of a luxury in russia and baltic states where sturgeons and belugas can be found in higher quantities and is farmed more. You can realistically buy caviar as an average guy once a month or so without really hurting your bottom line too too much.
I loved seafood the most but caviar I won't eat it, but oysters I prefer fried or cooked oysters. raw oysters are most dangerous to eat.
Judging from a mid-stage dialogue, Malik's reasoning for his adoration for caviar is as shallow as "it's just eggs; but the most expensive eggs money can buy". Heck, when inspected closely, caviar in his mindscape is depicted as ornated in gold patterns! So for Malik, caviar is the ambrosia that reaffirms his monetary security and opulence.
Oleander had a butcher dad who killed his bunnies and the military refused him
Loboto's parents hated the fact he had psychic powers because he wasn't a perfect little boy, so they lobotomized him and probably wrecked his brain
Lucy (or Maligula) was probably peer pressured to do all those kills and one of them was her sister, causing the last bit of sanity and reasoning to slip away
Gristol i just.......................uhh, he lost caviar and thats his motivation, you know what he sucks
Yeah like considering he put caviar over witnessing his father die on his death bed you know he’s 100% fooked up in the brain
I can definitely see why Forsythe did what she did. Intellectual plagiarism makes me angry. Plagiarism in general makes me angry.
No kidding. Its something alot of people have happen to them, especially minorities and women.
Patents for the win!
@@homoxymoronomatura
Not really...patents as a concept hold society back and leads to ALOT of needless suffering. Like if I came up with a life saving drug, ONLY to then hoard that knowledge through a patent thus denying this miracle medicine from reaching as many people as possible I would be rightfully seen as a monster and ashole. Basically I don't care about making money, just helping to make the world a better place, at the very least I would ask for credit or acknowledgement, BUT I desire NO praise nor privilege!
She went too far though. All she had to do was connect Plagiarism with bad and she’d have won. This was a malicious attack
@@justsomenumpty not really. She made 1 connection that led to many related connections, completely changing his entire thought process. And because these new connections conflicted with his past actions so drastically, he snapped. “If plagiarism is bad, then that means I’ve done a lot of bad things, that im bad, that I should be guilty,” etc. It’s exactly what happened with Raz: 1 flawed correlation leads to many others that can completely throw a person off track.
The moment you realize in the first game Cruller acting like different people wasn’t just a crazy old cuckoo being silly gag, but rather a the result of losing the love of his life and unable to cope is with his trauma is dark and sad as hell.... :,(
Also purposely shattering his own mind. That would get you similar results
@@dreamfire3133 I don’t think he did that on purpose, I think he tried to just lock away the memories of Lucy to protect her and things went wrong from there. After all if he intended to break his mind how would he be able to help fullbear.
@@joshuawall646 I figured he shattered his mind on purpose as the method for locking away those memories. The whole thing with helmet really makes him look bad for sure.
@@WolframiteWraith For him, it was just easier to hide bad memories behind multiple personas rather than accept it as himself.
Seeing Lucy's memory vault for the first time made me truly realize who she really was, not a monster who committed mass murder and got away with it but someone who tried to help her country but who's mind was twisted until it snapped, seeing that the flooding was an accident and seeing her dead sister causing her mind to snap turned my dislike and distain for her into pity and empathy.
That's how villains made from
Lucy/Maligula is basically Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
@@KaminoKatie you are correct
Poor Bob having to loose his mother then facing the tragedy of loosing his lover on top of getting fire and now reduce to drinking to try to forget his tragedy. I like the fact that his stage has a moth who is trying to protect him from the trauma he faced. Helmut also has PSTD after what he went through which is really messed up.
Take another look at Bob's first memory. After his father's passing, his mother keeps visiting the greenhouse after dark.
Shortly after, she died as well. When Bob went to open the locked greenhouse, a vine appeared to offer him a bottle of alcohol. And another...and another...and another...
god i just wanna give them both a hug. especially bob :(
also the alcohol symbolism of the moth is really interesting... i like how at the end of the stage it appears as just a cardboard mask covering bob's eyes, which he takes off, has a long look at and then throws away. he's realised that drinking wasn't protecting him from bad memories, but suppressing the good ones as well, and actively making his life worse. now he can see more clearly, and start taking steps towards getting better.
@@hershelroswell one of the other little bits at the end of that level that I really like is how a bunch more seeds float up and Bob is just like "I guess I'll have to handle them one at a time." Raz didn't just automatically fix him, but he put him back on the right track, and now Bob can finally begin managing his trauma for himself.
One of the very few complaints I've heard about the first game was that Raz seemingly made trivial the mental disorders he fought against. Real mental health issues aren't something you can just psi-blast out of existence. I love that they're addressing that problem with the first game to some extent. Raz is still being incredibly helpful and impacting people's minds for the better, and yet there's still this level of compassion and empathy that goes into telling each characters' stories.
@@ninjapotatolorf6237 yeah!!! it's really heartfelt and sweet in a way that made me genuinely tear up. i like how psychonauts 2 puts a bit more emphasis on healing as a journey taken step by step, rather than something that happens all at once.
@@ninjapotatolorf6237 To be fair against that original critique, in our world, we cannot confront mental disorders as directly as Raz or other Psychonauts can. And even in the original, I'd argue that Raz does much what he does here. He confronts and beats down the problems they face, but ultimately it is up to the individuals to manage their own issues, which they ultimately do.
Man the maliks were real dochebags
They were a Balkan Eastern Bloc nation in the Sixties, and also a Monarchistic Throwback to Czarist Russia. The real surprise is how they survived as long as they did.
@@FNGLHR why is that?
@@josemejias5656 Because any Balkan state like it during the time period would be a prime target for literally any nation neighboring. The Balkans were notoriously unstable for much of the 20th century. Grulovia's class despairity would've made it a prime target for the Warsaw Pact to basically usurp. Chances are that was the invasion that Lucretia went back to stop.
Point is their behavior is not entirely surprising given their nationalistic origins and cultural references. What surprises me is that it took a psychic being driven into a murderous rampage by their own actions to end their rule and not a massive violent uprising much sooner.
@@FNGLHR I mean to be fair. They apparently had one of the most Powerful Psychics backing them up. Until... You Know
It's clear that none of them were operating with a full deck. What do you expect from a family that wears chandeliers as crowns
I just find the sight of the punk Raz in the second Loboto memory vault just tearing open the shower doors and scaring the mad Dentist.
It reminds me of the Squidward "don't they know I'm spoiling myself-AAAAAAAAAAAH!" meme.
To me the best part of that was Sasha with a Mohawk and anarchy symbol
Man, that’s one way to make one of your antagonist’s a bit more simpithetic while having the other more hated.
Lucy didn’t mean to kill, she wasn’t even trying to, it was all an incident, and it was seeing the death of her sister that finally made her snap.
Meanwhile we have our little mole, the instigator of it all, who turns out to be nothing more than a spoiled brat who thinks he can get away with anything because he was related to royalty. I suppose he is partially granted to be mad at his father for ruining their lives.
If he was a better king that listened to his citizens, maybe none of this would have happened.
However, it is hard to find someone nowadays that has any form of power over another and still retain some form of humanity.
Except!! Worse yet, he doesn't blame his father for being a bad ruler, he blames the "peasants" for being "mean"- he thinks of them as being monsters in the first memory, an then in the seconds as them being stupid. He never once thinks they have something valid things to say, never once thinks the nobility even might be in the wrong. He completely and utterly lacks empathy.
Even worse, he did all this because he was running out of caviar to eat if you go by his final memory reel
@@GCatlord also, in all the slides the peasants blend into the background, and barely have any defining features. In contrast to this, the royal family is drawn in detail, and maligula was given a glow/halo when she was shown killing the peasants. Just goes to show how little gristol thought of his people.
alot of people call others "narcissists" because they are greedy or something (atleast from what ik) not true narcissism
a true narcassist iirc is someone who can ONLY view the world by how it affects them, and gristol is a perfect example of that
gristol likes caviar > protesters force family into exile > exile means no caviar > must revive maligula to restore order and get more caviar
every single thought process of his i can see is NEVER about others, only himself and maligula, the person who can help him the most in his eyes
Truman looks less mad and more upset when he lets Bob go.
I might be seeing it wrong but it looks like he has tears in his eyes so that would make sense
The projection of Truman being mad maybe internal feelings Bob had, or that time had coated the memory of what happened itself into a more negative one(Well time and alcohol). Hell, Truman was probably forced to do it. Maybe he even thought it might of helped Bob to get his stuff together since likely he hadn't been the same since Helmut ate it.
It means that Bob, on some level, does recognise that Truman didn’t want to do it.
If you wait long enough at the last section of the 2nd bottle, you hear the full conversation between Truman and Bob. Truman actually gave Bob a number to call, heavily implied to be Alcoholics Anonymous, but Bob got angry, saying he's not gonna "Just call up some stranger 'cause you think something's wrong with me!". Truman clearly had no choice but to let Bob go because of how terribly his drinking was affecting himself and others and was trying to get him help, but Bob only saw it as his nephew getting rid of him and rejected a chance to get help. But deep down, he knows Truman did the right thing, and he can't deny that.
2:06 holy cow, Ford had already shattered his own mind before they even had Helmut’s funeral? that’s so sad, especially considering he’s the one reading the sermon - he wasn’t even able to fully mourn him because he was already so gone.
Thats not ford?
Why did you mark 2:06
Man, 'I Was Only Trying To Help' gets me every time
The realization that hits when you see all the collars =[
Poor Compton...
Psi-king's Sensorium makes me appreciate how they make you come back for certain memory vaults so that would have more context for them and so they would hit harder.
Nona's call for help breaks my heart, just look at 15:51, all of the Seven Psychonauts have lost half of their life in regret and shame, but Lucy was tortured inside her own mind by her memories and Maligula, It's really messed up
So Hollis was a well experienced doctor, and quite dedicated to her work, only for Potts to steal her glory by making a little change on her book to make it look like it was his work.
In revenge, she decided to study mental connections to mess with Pott's mind, but she took it too far, making him go crazy. She felt regretful by her own actions that he had to call a Psychonaut to fix Pott's mental instability. She felt guilty for what she did, but she got another chance of gain success in becoming a Psychonaut
Bob's story just... hurts. You know what's also sad about his memory vault? In everyone else's, we see them with Bob at Helmut's funeral, but Bob's has him be alone. Then his nephew has to fire him because his drinking problem and he is all alone again. Loneliness and drinking is Bob's constant vice and state of mind. The poor guy. He spent years thinking everyone abandoned him. He even knew what Lili looked like which means Truman probably tried reaching out with photos, but he just... he was too hurt still.
I feel like bob and helmet became the stars for me... it was so sad...so heartwarming and when there together talking its just so so so damn emotional. def need a dlc with bob and helmet.
If the next game is just DLC continuing on and we go to get Helmut's body and Raz learns hydrokinetics-! Short and sweet!
@@Roadent1241 I'd be hella happy cuz bobs and helmets levels getting hella praised.
@@Oceanworker Yes!!
Good lord Bobby just cant catch a break can he, first his mom dies, then his husband "dies", and then he just get straight up fired.
Tbf about that last one
Truman had no choice but to fire him as his drinking was making him unstable and angry
What's even crazier is the fact that Gristol probably implanted the "psychic brain war tank" idea into Oleander's mind in the first game when he went to Whispering Rock, I mean how else can you explain away the oddball egg imagery? Not only that but in the finale to Fatherland Follies it shows his vision of Grulovia returning and becoming a stronger country than it was, going across what looked like a spinning globe...an international power, we can't rule out that he had a militant ideology driven motive...to fuel his lavish lifestyle any quash anyone who would interrupt it...
I was thinking the same thing since they use eggs as a metaphor for brain.
I recognize Helmut Fulbear's problem as sensory deprivation, Compton Boole's as extreme anxiety, Ford Cruller's as dissociative Identity disorder and Bob Zanotto's as alcoholism born of depression. But I can't seem to place what Cassie O'Pia is suffering from. Does anyone know?
My guess. Dissociative identity disorder. More commonly known as multiple personality disorder.
@@jackhoward705 Nah, that's what Ford had.
@@johanneshjortshj8646 well Cassie also had elements of it with the 4 aspects of her in her mind, so maybe she has a lesser version of it as unlike with Ford, they don't show as bad as his. Her main problem I can think of is either her inferiority in not being able to help as much(in her own mind) trying to get Lucy back, as seen with the overbearing Librarian being overly negative to positive emotions until defeated by incorporating all the aspects together, not only fixing her psyche but also helping her discover herself, but that's just my interpretation.
To me it seems like she has an inferiority complex. This’s shown with how she creates different psyches in order to try and be “useful,” and with how inadequate she felt in the battle with Maligula. The librarian, much like the bees, is meant to be a symbolic representation of her fear of inadequacy, hence why they both decide to keep her locked away from others in order to “protect” her.
Massive amounts of anxiety for sure and it seems she was having an identity crisis. The last game had pretty obvious disorders for each character but this one doesn't seem to follow that pattern
I like how the mind vault of the [REDACTED] made him more of an unlikable jackwagon.
Jack wagon?
17:13
Side note what’s going on with the king here?
@@redrasegarden The King became nervous/afraid of Maligula's WMD-like power and wanted her executed after she seemingly killed off all the opposition to his rule (the protestors). He fled after he found the dead executioner's body in his pool; abandoning his country and his royalty after Maligula turned full kill-everyone mode.
@@blueberrymcphuckerson9821 no no no dude, this was when she saved the prince. He’s just holding a knife during the celebration
@@redrasegarden Oh, I'll explain. Well, first you have to understand that the Prince is deluded about his childhood in Grulovia (FFS, he saw himself as a genius-kid showing the rest of the Grulovia government how to increase the economy as well as caviar). That specific memory is his interpretation of that peaceful protest that was a catalyst to Maligula going completely insane. His interpretation is everything was perfectly fine and he was a super-loved royal genius-prince. Then violent invaders (peaceful citizens) came one day to kill him but his "heroine" (the Maliks' main political force to enforce their rule) "saved him". After she "saved him", he saw it as his father/king cowardly betraying Maligula for no reason. His illusions and delusions about the actual events prevent him from comprehending that Maligula was just a psychopath becoming unstably out-of-control murderous and the King tried to kill her for that reason (before she'd eventually kill them too). He see Maligua as a flawless hero who upheld standard of living that was no-reason betrayed by his father.
The Ford Forgets one made me feel really sad 😢
He was so stricken by grief that he forgot to save his best friend.
Why did no one tell me Raz's paper double kinda sounds like Gir I love that so much 😂😭
Umm… that is GIR’s voice actor actually :3!
It was done intentionally :3
And Raz is voiced by Invader Zim. [:P]
With the actors real names being Richard Horvitz (Raz) and Ricky Simons (paper Raz)
Completely off topic but I like how the figments of crystal and Clem are on the roof of the cabin.
Just noticed that Ford used the same type of Psychic-restrainer on Maligula that Lili was trapped in in Psychonauts 1.
At 8:06, the country discontinued stamp is the glove from the yellow submarine! I love that movie so much, im happy double fine took so much inspiration from it
0:55 I have been laughing for 5 minutes straight *WHAT IN THE WORLD IS SASHA WEARING* 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Anarchist Sasha is not the take I was expecting but it's also not surprising
He's so punk!! I want to see an AU where this is the sort of teen he was!! I was more taken aback by Raz in this, honestly. I didn't even notice him, thanks for pointing that out!
"Oops, my anarchy symbol."
@@SpudChickenSaltedChips Why can I hear him saying that just deadpan??? XD
16:20 And it all makes sense now... YES, IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
Agree Mind blown!!!!
Hmn, YES!!!!
ALL MAKES SENSE NOW ruclips.net/video/DjSnxYm5tcs/видео.html
So nona..... give raz the flyer.....
@@rolando90s YES! I never hoped someone WOULD GET IT! You made me so happy! :D
I love how Hollis developed. Yes, she did mistakes, but she went the effort to fix them by calling the psychonauts, and after Truman Zanotto himself pulls up and fixes the doctor, he offers her a chance to use her abilities for good. He fixed her problems *and* insured she‘d use her abilities for good.
Man poor bob , hi loses his husband and the becomes alcholic
It was also implied that his mom was an alcoholic who died when Bob was young
@@MysteriumArcanum MAN EVERYBODY IN THIS F
GAME IS FUCKED UP LIKE,,,
tim give em a rest
Fam where is your profile pic from?
@@phineasfacingforward3460 me or Lou? Because my pfp is a mask a buddy of mine made for me.
@@MysteriumArcanum Lou but he won't respond to me 😔✊
OH MY GOD NONA AND RAZ IS A PURE RELATIONSHIP
Who?
If we got a third game, I'd love to see a level in Augustus's mind to see what his past is like.
He really almost read the first vault backwards
Everyone saying Otto got through the trauma worry free has never had to deal with survivors guilt before.
I remember reading he went to therapy
And I'd like to think that he copes with his gadgets
Darn, Cassie's story is really depressing if you think about it. No young child should be abandoned, & be forced to make difficult decisions at a young age to defend themselves. Cassie was forced into the outlaw life, & when she got caught, she seemed to be having a mental breakdown. She must've been so scared. That & when she told the truth, she discovered that the police was corrupt, which possibly made things worse for her. That & when the fight with Maligua occured & her methods (trying to get her to calm down through words) didn't work, it Must've been so distressful. When she reached out to others, they were busy, leading her to be alone like she was in her childhood. She started feeling useless(which is a HORRIBLE feeling), & then her powers went out of control, leading her to be unable to speak with others(until Raz came in, of course).
Dear lord, someone throw a party for her or something. Or any of the other characters' parties as well, They all went through something horrible.
atleast she has boole now
@@velvetdraws3452 ✨✨ Traumatized Bee Buddies! ✨✨
(I do agree though, thank goodness they have each other! They're a wonderful QPR, or at least that's how I view it)
ok one thing still bothers me
Nick John Smith is not psychic. but loboto had help from a psychic to construct his mental defenses and we see that other person in his mind (he kind of looks like nick wearing the big crown) as he points to the implanted memory of Maligula
so is nick psychic or is there another person pulling the strings?
You have to remember he’s the son of the king of a dictator nation he probably learned from some torture techniques from his old man and the bottle is at the most strong-willed of people … you know because of the lobotomy his parents gave him to get rid of his psychic powers he’s a pretty easy man to torture into silence
@@elizabethfaith4247 that's the kind of thing you would see in a memory vault. All we see is loboto getting paid.
I think Nick just used hypnotism, maybe with a side of torture. The memory of being hypnotised wouldn't show up in loboto's mind because, y'know, hypnotism, and the memory of hypnotising loboto doesn't seem all that important to Nick.
@@john.harrison it was probably only paid to kidnap the guy he was paid to kidnap and after you got that guy then gristle came back to do the torture (or maybe the hiring memory vault was embellishing some facts seeing as in the” psychics ruin everything” memory vault he remembers the psycho not being in different clothing and doing things they didn’t actually do)
@@elizabethfaith4247 yeah, in the first game, Oleander had a very easy to access fabricated memory showing him as one wonderful man of war, while the real memory is hidden somewhere else and shows he actually failed to join any area of the army (not even as a cook), so chances are this was also fake memory made to keep the Psychonauts walking in circles, while the real one is somewhere very hidden away
Huh, guess my theory that Fatherland Follies was Augustus's mind rang false. At least I was right about the alcohol level being Bob.
no shit sherlock its literally called bobs bottles
@@covarksigma1113 Not when images of it were available at first. Heck, the wiki figured it was Truman's mind.
15:51 her being sad makes me sad, It's like a child lost her friend or pet forever.
I don't know how I managed to miss some of these memory vaults
A few of them can only be accessed after the game due to the projection ability being needed, but imo i missed a few obvious ones. This lays out the story so well, I love how it fills the holes that were missing in the games narrative.
(Damn, in Bobs I was hoping there'd be a memory vault of the wedding)
Memory vaults usually contain stuff that the host brain has sealed away, on purpose or unconsciously. His wedding was so much on display, I doubt he would seal it even if he wanted to.
@@AnonPer Yeah pretty much this. Seemed like it it was good enough to be prominant in his mind.
Including Helmuts nipples.
1:29 sorry, but is that X-ray on the wall a LOBOTOMY
OMG YES , YES IT IS
In the first game, you see the small memories and consequences of the past life of each one of the characters and creatures. But you was a stranger in their minds.
In the second, you are discovering their woes, their pains and their losses that made them a team (or just discovering the motivation on Mastermind) and while trying to reunite them together to solve the main problem.
Did loboto swim all the way to the rhombus of ruins
YES
Guys nuts. I probably shouldn't even put it past him to do that.
2:19 i guess this is what happened when you lost your sanity.
Thanks, I really didn’t want to go back and collect all the vaults, in two years when I play through the psychonauts series again, I’ll go for it but i don’t want to right now.
2 questions about the Ford / Lucy thing:
1 - Ford just got really unlucky with Augustus turning about to be psychic, right? Otherwise it seems pretty convenient that one of his kids happened to be psychic
2 - What exactly caused Nona to "snap" and give Raz the Whispering Rock brochure? Was that her old self, subconsciously trying to undo the damage Ford had done to her?
What caused the Nona personality to crack was seeing Raz use psychic powers, in that moment she had a choice between helping him reach his full potential and not using knowledge from her old life. Family won out.
Gotta love how Agent Cruller is basically the Nick Fury of this world
I wonder if the eggs part in "The World Shall Taste My Eggs!" had to do Malik
It just hit me right now that every member of the Psychic Seven hooked up with each other except Otto.
Poor guy.
Compton's relationship with Cassie is platonic
Otto could be ace(neither gay nor strait)
Hey whoever may be watching this I’d recommend going to sleep if it’s late
Thanks bro
Thanks I got work in the morning
Thanks man
Ford did nothing wrong (well, aside from forgetting PSI King's brain for 20 years)
I think he also was wrong to abandon his friends rather than live with what he’d done. None of them had the luxury of forgetting like he did, they needed his support.
@@Circuitssmith That and of course having Raz’s father believe that Lucy was his mother when his actual mother was dead for years.
He had lost both of his parents and was in an orphanage. If anything, Ford gave him a second chance with his family.
15:51 Nona looks so fucking sad, man, I just wanna hug her 😭
All I have to say is somehow even through completely different medium and a completely different universe gir still somehow find a way to bug zim
Okay now I can hear zim and gir now
2:36 Well, it could be even worse
At least that doctor didn't commit suicide due to the his mental breakdown and psychosis
Important to note that Helmut and Bobby memories indicating they were together were all locked behind after you see that scene on Bobby's brain, the hallway one were Raz walks slowly.
If you look closely, you can see how they reworked raz's mom appearance when you compare her to the first game
Well... that goes to the rest of his family except his dad
3:29 so did he obliterate the test animals?
Yeah, he got overwhelmed by the voices of the animals, causing him to stress out and accidentally blow them all up.
To think the whole series happend because REDACTED made the REDACTED witch cause REDACTED to REDACTED THERE REDACTED
Which cause Ford to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED is REDACTED REDACTED
If this gets 100 like I will release the uncensored version
13:59 you can see how Truman looks sad here. And I can’t blame him.
5:32 When Helmut was a brain in a jar, how could he have memories of things going on outside when he had no senses to perceive them?
This game’s lore is officially better than Steven Universe’s.
As a Steven Universe fan who had eventually fell out with the series due to its progression I can agree that the original shows lore it's quite the bumpy road
GOD please don't compare it with that woke trash, I hate how SU managed mental health stuff, specially depression because it showed that they didn't investigated shit about it and it was super disrespectful (I'm saying this from the place of someone who has a family member with depression), hugs and blaming each other for it are NOT the way to handle it
At this point any lore is better than Steven Universe's.
@@theshiro1238 that’s funny because that becomes a BIG plot point in SU: Future where it’s addressed hug and kisses don’t fix problems. I say this as someone who grew up with a paranoid schizophrenic parent.
@@thatonegirljonesy9750 Future is awfully handled, there's a difference between a mature story and an edgy story where they will make the mc act like a monster because they didn't bother to actually take the time to do it well, I understand if u think it's good but objectively speaking is awfully done
I love how Nicks main reason to medal in psychic affairs was he ran out of caviar
One thing I think a lot of people miss in that last one. Nick/Malik was FULLY aware his father tried to have her killed, and that was the reason they fled. THAT'S why he hates his father. Not because he left, but because he managed to turn the greatest asset of their country against them.
That's also why he, in the Zanato's body, was groveling that way. He KNEW she might not be pleased with him thanks to association with his father, so he figured he'd butter her up, treat her like a goddess, and he the Pharaoh supplicating himself before her. He likely thought don't so, showing her the respect she was due, might get her on his side.
He just hadn't realized the reason his dad wanted her dead. This version of the woman's mind was...not nice, and saw no reason for anyone else, or any future. She is the fight or flight response stuck forever on fight. She can't think of past or future, only now, and now means she must wash away any threat.
It’s weird how they chose to make Helmut’s memory vaults locked behind the post game, since you gain the ability to collect them after you go to Green Needle Gulch, but in Green Needle Gulch, you can’t return to Minds you’ve already visited until you beat the game. It’s odd to say the least.
Two things.
1. You can use the Brain Tumbler in the Heptadome to revisit brains before you finish the game.
2. If you could see Helmut's memory vaults before you completed the level, you would be spoiled of the reveal that psi king is Helmut.
@@nestalert How can you return to the Heptadome in the Green Needle Gulch section? I thought that once you go to Green Needle Gulch you’re locked into that hub until you beat the game, no longer able to return to the Motherlobe
Man psychonauts has the deepest lores.
thank you! there were so many important ones I missed out on
0:00 I don’t know why this is catchy.
Thanks for this!
Wait, what did Compton's do to the animals???
He made them go boom 💥 it’s really mess up he only wanted to help them
If you think of the kid in the first game who blew up the squirrel, and I believe even has the same surname therefore the same problem....
He used pyrokinesis
@@shotpack8374 Well he didn’t really burn them, it’s more like…well, exploded them.
I believe he accidentally vaporised them from overstimulation.
He was lucky that Ford found him.
Why is Ford Forgets in Helmut's mind? Half of the vault contains information that he'd never have known.
They put new guy in Forsythes origin
Wait, why are the campers from the first game in Nick/Gristol's mind as figments?
GOTY
There's a couple of these that are good, "Nona's Call for Help" and "I was Only Trying to Help," are my favorites. But too many of these vaults are showing what we already know or have seen through the main story, and it feels like a waste of potential. None of these vaults have the dramatic reveals of the old game like Milla's Children or Oleander's Shame.
how is there no comments?
I bet in the third game raz will talk to the true gzar of grulovia and not just nick from the mailroom. I would be surprised if they don’t include nick’s father
I would be surprised if they DID, isn't he dead?
Also aren't they technically talking to the true Gzar when we are talking to Gristol?
@@Roadent1241 well, in the third game he could probably talk to ghosts as this would help out in the lore a lot
Jay Kay Hmm. Interesting. Maybe, we'll see.
i miss the days were people just uploaded video game walkthroughs and didn't try to panhandle you one second in
Bruh why’d they have to put race in a game where people are blue. The woman part is understandable tho they should’ve lead with that
i don't understand what you mean?? they are still humans. there are still different races. just because they're blue/ purple/ whatever doesn't mean they cant have a race.
hollis' backstory in the hospital is based on the common occurrence of black women being overshadowed and plagiarized by others. I know this because they literally mention it being a source for her character in the documentary about the game's development, i think it fits and is highlighting a pretty important issue...
This game is thinly disguised soviet propaganda. Can we talk about that?
Do elaborate
@Greyson Midori He's probably refering to how Grulovia is clearly a dead ringer for Russia and the fact a lot of Soviet propaganda used to depict royalty as a bunch of self centered, incompetent and stupid assholes.
And it just happens that some of the more important events in the game backstory are directly or indirectly caused by self centered, incompetent and stupid nobles that wanted to stay in power and live a life of luxury, no matter the price.
Long story short: Tsar man bad.
@@Sonlirain I mean, that seems less like Soviet propaganda, more like the usual "greedy, selfish leaders will always cause their people's downfall" story
No one likes kings and royalists except royalists and kings
Anti-royal sentiment is hardly unique to the Soviets, more likely an Eastern European setting fit the “traveling circus people with roots in the old country” schtick. Maybe you need to get _your_ brain checked out too.