What made me sad about this situation is the CEO and some commentators online writing that the reason behind the hair lose BW may be experiencing is bad hygiene or excessive styling. Never heard anything like this in any other community. Never seen such gaslighting. Never seen anyone, any client be treated this way, specially while showing the damage caused to their body. like, are you serious??? Some people may want to continue supporting the brand but this is enough for me to never buy from Mielle. I'll use something else on my "stinky hair and scalp". I have some self-respect.
Exactly, I understand people saying go to a doctor to see if it's internal because sometimes that happens and it's always good to check just in case, but the specific gaslighting that happens within the black community about putting down other people saying they are dirty or they don't know anything about their hair is so gross. I would never assume someone who is experiencing sudden major hair loss and damage is just "not washing their hair enough" , it's clearly something else and it's serious to that person.
@@Molly-iw1rcexactly!! I’ve been natural for over 15 years & I always had a thick healthy fro before I started using Mielle. Then I started noticing that my hair was constantly dry & breaking off, even though my hair care routine was the same. Ppl love to gaslight us about our hair! The worst thing I ever did was take hair care advice from some of these self loathing “naturalistas” online
Right when the looser curly girls were losing their hair because of diva curl products nobody gaslit them people just believed it was the product. However there have been a few times bw have been gaslit about our experiences
She’s actually pretty right about the hygiene, according to google If left untreated, a buildup of oil, sweat, and dead skin can clog hair follicles, causing inflammation and infection. This condition is called folliculitis, and it can lead to hair loss and scarring. Not washing your hair regularly can cause an accumulation of excess sebum on your scalp, which can lead to seborrheic dermatitis. This condition causes the scalp to become red, itchy, and inflamed, and scratching can lead to hair loss. Excessive styling can be a reason why some people lose their hair as well which makes sense. But overall everyone’s hair is different I’ve had many products that don’t work well with my hair and this one that everyone is talking about is pretty good on me I haven’t had any hair loss or any other problems so I don’t think that someone’s bad experience with a hair brand should influence your own opinion about it. I’ve had my bad share of products that don’t work but i always tell people to try it for themselves because my experience might not be their experience and the product might actually be really great for them. At the end of the day everyone’s hair is different and i think this is what should be taken into account with this whole situation.
Completely untrue. There’s no legal requirements to put the word ‘organic’ on a product in the US. Spam or Coca Cola could put ‘organic’ on their product and no one could stop them. It mean’s literally nothing, other than being a marketing ploy. Whether or not the word ‘organic’ is on Mielle means nothing and is not at all indicative of the quality, nor the quality of any other product.
It's not that it has organic on the label or not, it's that in the beginning organic was on the label and then they removed it. Why remove it otherwise?
@@chlorine_waspPeople are just moving from hearsay. I'm not falling for the hysteria until there's proof that the Mielle products are actually causing the hairloss. When that happens, I'll stop using Mielle products.
Some of these “blk hair care” companies are in the business to keep you in wigs and weave. I ONLY use natural products such as coconut oils and homemade shampoos,etc. Don’t touch these brands ladies!
Whenever big companies take over small brands in any industry, things change. The formulas always change in cosmetics and hair care because these corporations are hardwired to reduce costs. We need to just support small businesses with products that work. I get it, get paid. But it always comes at a cost for the consumer. Edit: Sometimes it can be vendors that change and not necessarily the formula. The change in sourced ingredients can drastically change a product even if the formula is the same.
The formula actually removed irritants that the original product had. They did not add anything that wasn’t already there. The problem is that the product itself is potent and has a high dosage of essential oils. I think usage overtime is surely to do damage if not used properly and for a short period. The oil especially is very potent. I am disappointed more so in the fact that people were not advised on how to use it correctly.
@@kimberlytadiwanashemhuruye9033That’s a fact!! There are medical journals that actually say that when using potent oils like these, they are only to be left on for 45 min MAX and then washed out of the hair. The oil absorbs completely within that timeframe.. but ppl aren’t scientists/chemists, so how did they expect ppl to know this? It’s a shame.
@@kimberlytadiwanashemhuruye9033That makes sense, essential oils are supposed to be dilated or they can cause irritation to the scalp. Maybe that’s why people are losing their hair, but it’s the brand’s responsibility to manufacture products that aren’t harsh on the scalp. But I also think they changed their sourcing for products.
Omg everyone has been exposing this hair line and I’ve been using it and have noticed my hair coming out in clumps as well and it’s been PASSED highly frustrating. If I could sue I would. This is NOT ok and now I have to start all over again. because if this hair line “care” I’ve now lost over six inches. Please leave this hair line alone ladies. I’ve thrown it all away. God bless you all.
Omg me too! I thought I was going crazy or had some health issues, but over the course of 6 months I have lost 6 inches in almost a quarter of my head. It was in the back so I couldn't really see, but I am Soo pissed! I thought I was having postpartum shedding but it never grew back and is getting worse. I'm never using them again.
I told my husband last week that the products were not performing as before. Thank you for sharing the news! I didn’t know the company was acquired. Maybe my hair just doesn’t take anymore. Unfortunately, I’ll need to start back making my hair care products in my kitchen. God bless her and her endeavors!
My grandma uses Mielle the rosemary shampoo & oil . Her hair has thinned to the point where it’s obvious & we thought it was alopecia BUT ITS THE PRODUCTS !!! Wooooow
i am a cosmetologist. i was losing some hair due to menopause. i just started using coffee mixed with msm, olive oil and rosemary oil. i spray it onto my scalp morning and night. i just read a study that caffeine topically yields the same results as minoxidil. i then use carols daughter goddess strength conditioner on the rest of my hair and leave it on (not on my scalp and just a dime size on a 1/4 of my hair) i do this daily. i now have just a few strands of hair shed. mielle has not changed the formula, as monique said but the sourcing of the ingredients have changed. the quality of the ingredients. ladies we can make our own products ourselves. stop paying money for hair growth oils. mix your own! sending everyone peace, love and positive thoughts ❤ side note i wash my hair weekly and use acv after i wash my hair then follow with my caffeine formula
@@kimcham9949 Methylsulfonylmethane is msm. it’s sulfur in powder form. you drink it and add it to your hair mixture. i add it to coffee and some rosemary oil and olive oil. i shake it up and spray it onto my scalp morning and night. i had 3 strands of hair come out this evening because my hair was tangled i have fine hair, medium porosity, 3c 4 a pattern coily ,chemical free. i do not use heat or hair gel. use the mix and your hair will grow within 2-3 business days you’ll see growth where there was none. you can add any oils you want to the msm caffeine mix. you can add tea free oil, castor oil. not too much but enough. always shake before spraying
My hair fell out when I tried the pomegranate line. I did go to a doctor and we tried to find out why. I don't care if anyone believes me. I will never use that shyt again.
Lab Beauty Science has a video that debunks the rosemary and hair growth connection. I think many Black women’s misunderstandings about hair growth and length retention puts us in a vulnerable position and makes us more susceptible to marketing claims.
Thanks, I’ll check that video out! I’ve always heard that the connection was made via a study where they used Rosemary oil on one test group and Minoxidil on another and found that the ppl who used the Rosemary oil had just as much hair growth, if not more. I can’t wait to check out their video to see if this is true or not!
I have seen the study as well, the results were shown on rats who had a patch of fur shaved and were given minoxidi, rosemary. And a control group. . I believe that rosemary actually helps with lengths retention as it reduced inflammation and increases blood flow. I think sometimes growth and retention are still confused which makes it harder to get a straight answer. I love that you're looking into this for yourself we definitely need to be more cautious about what we put in and on our bodies
That's very true and thank you for not putting down black women while pointing out we may be more susceptible to false marketing. Black women aren't naive but are just dealing with the same predatory marketing like everyone else, it's not surprising that people still believe rosemary makes hair grow because advertisers continue to say that to the public.
This this this! I read this too! Thats why im not falling for Cecred bc theyre saying rosewater causes hair growth…ummmm no. Its the protective styling and conditioning
@@Molly-iw1rc You’re welcome! That’s the word - predatory marketing. Marketing is so tricky. I remember Jennifer Rose explaining how they’re (companies) are allowed to make certain claims if they’re worded a particular way. It’s very misleading. And unfortunately, it’s easy for them to do market research on us, because in so many comments on RUclips, someone is asking about how to grow their hair. And that is likely *not* the issue. Retention is.
This is the reason I never fall for trends. Just because something is expensive, it doesn't mean it good. I wish people would stand by their decisions without pretending god gave them the greenlight to do something
This product is a reasonable price. I know who my GOD is too. I needed something for my 4c hair & this was recommended. It worked well until last year.
@@AboveknotbelowAgreed! Formula was probably changed or it was a fake! Be very careful of products brought off Amazon too! I've been finessed by a few sellers with beauty products! Beauty supply stores are notorious for selling expired items! Pull from the back of every row y'all 😌🫡
I used just the oil, one bottle before the merger and one bottle after. My hair was falling off my head, breaking, and my scalp was inflamed and so sensitive. It got to the point that I had to completely cut all my hair off. I still have some inflamed and sensitive spots. I am working with a dermatologist because I thought I was developing alopecia. If the formulation didn't change, they might have changed vendors.
Good morning! I tried the scalp oil as well, it did not work for me. I hope this is a situation where Mielle can take step back and go back to the drawing board.
If she was acquired by P&G, then the suppliers of the ingredients has definitely changed. I've noticed this with The Ordinary too; different suppliers offer different quality levels of the same ingredients. I believe that's what's happening with Mielle. The new (cheaper) suppliers are supplying lower quality ingredients. It may not read in lab-testing, but it will be felt by consumers. It's why I don't use the The Ordinary's Glycolic Acid Toner any more; they always be changing the supplier and I can smell and feel the difference.
I had no idea The Ordinary sold out to P&G I felt their Hyaluronic acid hasn’t been as effective lately. I understand companies wanting to expand but they’re risking losing the integrity of their products and losing customers
Thanks for letting me know about The Ordinary! Had no idea. I was actually using their Multi-Peptide Hair Density Serum. I’ll probably just stop now since I can’t tell if it really even worked or not.
Omg I used to use their glycolic acid years ago consistently. I noticed each bottle was different but I thought I was crazy. I stopped using it as sometimes it would work and another bottle would break me out. Omg. 😮
I remember when the whole drama happened with Linda Lynn and Mielle I didn’t agree or like how it went down and I was one of those who stopped using the brand because of how she was treated. I loved watching her videos because she was so transparent with her product reviews. I’ve also used other products from other lines like The Vanilla line (it’s purple) from Carols Daughter as well as the castor oil line (beige color) from Shea Moisture in which made my hair so dry, never used it again. But with how they treated Linda Lynn I finished the products I did have (and loved -pomegranate line) and never bought from them again even with all the lines that has came out since then. I feel bad for those losing their hair and there’s been SO many people showing their hair before using and after, it’s been detrimental for so many.
Good morning. I only found out about the Linda Lynn situation a few days ago, naturally it would resurface. I think it is very unfortunate that that is how they chose to handle the situation. And as you said you were of the ladies who chose to stop buying from them. While I do not have a company as big as Mielle, I think this is a great lesson to companies in general, how you treat your customers matter.
@@KlassicallyKept you’re absolutely right. I am all about black women owned businesses but when you treat people like that who was honestly just giving her honest opinion about products she bought with her own money, it was disrespectful and unprofessional; how both her and her husband went about it. I went back and watched the video again and as I remembered Linda Lynn didn’t say anything bad. Her choice of words were probably just too much for the owner to take in.
I used Mielle when I was a loose natural specifically the Pomegranate and Honey collection, which at that time was amazing to my hair. However, the treatment Linda Lynn experienced was so unprofessional and of poor customer service I stopped using/supporting the brand. This is such an unfortunate experience for the women experiencing hair loss/trauma... I hope they're all able to recover!
The response she made to Linda Lynn is why I stopped using Mielle products and refuse to purchase any of them afterwards. I even threw out any Mielle products I had in my closet…plus I was on an Ayurvedic journey and Miele didn’t fit with that.
I used Mielle for the first time a couple years ago. I saw their $7 sale so decided to give them a try. After a couple months of using, I noticed when the product was in my hair, my hair looked great, but when the product was washed out, it felt dry. I thought it was interesting considering how greasy and oily the products were. The custard flaked EVERYWHERE, flakes might not be the word. It was gloopy and sticky. I decided to give it up based on that alone. I’m glad I did. I know how important our hair is to many of us. My heart goes out to the woman who have become victims of Mielles greed and lack of care. I will never touch their products again.
There’s another RUclipsr named Mayowa’s World that speaks on this, and there are people that know the founder in the comments speaking on unscrupulous behavior and business practices (one involving school children), and instances of lack of bedside manner involving customers and their reviews online. I also remember when the products came out a lot of people were speaking on how it left a tingling feeling, and then believing that it meant the product was working, but I also feel that initial tingling they raved about could have been their scalps/skin becoming irritated from the products, and eventually causing excessive hair shedding and hair fall over time. I think people can mistake tingling for “it’s working!” When it can be the scalp telling you “I don’t like this at all” some people also said the products were strong and contained essential oils, which can be irritating unless diluted (even though they are supposedly diluted in the formula). It’s a shame so many women may have to start their hair journey over again. This reminds me of the DevaCurl situation all over again
@@KlassicallyKept good morning ! And yes, I was just aware of that situation, but reading the comments on her video made me aware of so much more and it’s such a sad situation. So many people do not trust her or the brand anymore
I saw that. I agree with Mayowa 100%. I don't doubt that something may have changed. Maybe it's the formula or the way it's produced. However, I don't think Mielle was ever all that to begin with. I bought some of their stuff before they sold and it wasn't for me. I'm no cosmetic chemist but leave in is supposed to be light and gentle. That rosemary leave in is so thick. It leaves a cast unless you really work it in. Then it has a lot of fragrance and essential oils. I don't have sensitive skin. I feel like my hair can handle a lot. It literally made my scalp tingle. In fact one time I didn't wash it off my hands right away and I could feel it on the skin between my fingers. Even before all of this Mielle was not a brand like Cantu that you can just recommend to anybody. I would not recommend this is you have sensitive skin, relaxed hair, hear trained natural hair, eczema, any kind of scalp condition. Also the things about sensitizing ingredients that ppl don't think about is something might work if you only use it every once in a while, but you use harsh fragrance and oils over and over it states to have a cumulative effect. So even of she's telling the truth and they didn't change the formula it could still be making ppl lose their hair.
@@t_ylr I agree! The minute I read it had essential oils and people said it was heavy or made their scalp tingle or like you, it made their hands tingle as well, I politely walked passed it whenever I went to the store. I hope those ladies are able to be compensated and that more people give their experiences
I never enjoyed the notion that a business has to "grow" in order to be successful or useful for a community. Local businesses are much better for communities than most big businesses, no matter who is running it, because helping the community should be about connection and distribution of money. When your business is bigger and bigger, your money becomes more and more staggered when it comes to distribution. Money goes to the top and the people at the bottom and the consumers become numbers. That's how I feel at least.
That’s usually what happens but unfortunately black people have an inferiority complex where they don’t feel like they are successful unless they grow and can have “others@ buying their products.
@@SaharaKnows not if it hurt my community in the process. Very rarely does a huge business keep up good standards and ethics, you do eventually "sell out" because no one needs to constantly grow, Mielle was making enough money before, I'm sure now they are very happy with the paychecks.
Most big businesses aren't actually about community. This is just a fact. It doesn't mean you shouldn't build a business for your community, but just know that the success might be lukewarm.
Big companies will usually change ingredients in order to cut costs, which raises their profit margins. Also, I'm guessing Mielle is a publicly traded company, and if not yet, it's only a matter of time. When they go public, their main goal is to get the profit margins as high as possible because they'll have investors who want that check, so that's when things usually go downhill from there.
I am glad you spoke on this I've been watching this unfold. I have commented on another channel that I watch a cosmetologist and from last year she was saying don't put rosemary in your hair it kills the good and bad bacteria and eventually your hair will fall out. She also has spoke about coconut oil, clove and rice water and exactly what she predicted people's hair would fall out. The owner spoke about she has a background in science, it would be interesting to know what type of science? Something women need to take note of with all these trends going around manufacturers will make the product to cash even though they know the product is trash. I have never used Mielle but this has got me thinking, anyone can be allergic to anything so when we buy a new product we should test it. From now on, I will dab products behind my ear to see whether there is a reaction and is something people should consider doing. My last point since all these trends have come in women are losing their hair at an alarming rate. If what you are using is working stick to it. Don't believe the hype nothing can grow your hair any faster that what rate it is supposed to grow at. We can only work towards retaining the growth, eat well, sleep well, exercise, drink water, wash hair regularly, never let it dry out and be gentle with our hair.
I mean, you're supposed to dilute essential oils like rosemary oil. However, from my understanding, the Mielle one was marketed as being already diluted and ready for use in consumer's hair. :/
@@AbigailJ.I don't think it's fair to mention another channel on this channel. I will let you know that I also two beauty scientists and they also say rosemary does not grow your hair. The study everyone is referring to is not accurate and they broke down why it isn't accurate.
@@no.6377 It is diluted but it doesn't change the fact rosemary is in the oil. There also something else I should have mentioned the little dropper in the bottle I always see people dragging it across their scalps. If you have type of bacteria yeast on your scalp when you put the dropper back in the bottle it will contaminate the oil and the user will be dragging that all over their scalp.
I feel sorry for everyone who is going through hair loss. Please eveyone who notices a change in hair /hair loss stop use the products immediately. Don't wait a week month later to stop using it.Even though they said there isn't a class action doesn't mean there isn't one in the making. with mielle being under P&G they have big time lawyers,so they need more concrete evidence and more people to prove to the court that mielle is at fault. Its like the relaxer lawsuit.
I had never heard of Mielle before I purchased the rosemary mint shampoo last month. I used the shampoo about two or three times and loved it. It left my hair soft, smooth, and manageable. Just happened across this video today, Sunday, September 15. I promptly threw the bottle in the trash. It did nothing but good things for my hair, but I’m not willing to play Russian roulette w my hair so I’ll stick w my tried and true.
I don't normally comment but I've been going through awful health problems to the point where I've been left disabled. I normally mix and apply my own oils but I saw this oil in the store and decided to buy it to save myself time and energy. Now that I think about it, since I bought it, my scalp has been even more sensitive and red. My Mom says she's noticed me losing more hair. This is horrifying. I already have sensitive skin because of my health and this definitely wasn't helping. I can't imagine the damage that would come from using the rest of their products 💔
This is interesting, im glad that i never used Mielle like that. I was a steady user of Carols Daughter when she was a boutique brand.. after the acquisition the formulations changed and i went full DIY, ive been seeing this trend amongst many black owned brands over the past 25yrs and it continues.. love your discussion on this matter. We really need to stay educated on our own hair and be ready to go grassroots and simplified ingredients at any point in time.
Good morning Mya, so I have been watching different videos about this company all week and I was thinking, people will see a bad situation and just add so much more negativity. Then, I did my hair care routine last night and noticed more hair coming out but I shrugged it off. Finishing my hair this morning and my hair is still shedding while watching this. I started thinking…. look at this new leave in conditioner that you added a month ago/ wash every 2 weeks. Melanin hair care conditioner was out of stock and tried a new conditioner, Mya… turned the bottle around and guess what I was using while twisting my hair? Mielle leave in conditioner, the only new addition to my routine. 😡 I am a minimalist with hair products and have been using the same products for over a year and now so much shedding. Threw that out immediately.
I also tried their leave in specifically the pomegranate honey but couldn’t get past the smell. Never had a leave in dry my hair like it did. Good on you for noticing and doing what you need.
@@itsjessguys7005 I leave my hair in twist but shampoo, condition and re twist every two weeks. I normally use Melanin leave in and butter but she has been sold out. I honestly didn’t even pay attention to the fact that it was Mielle until I was twisting my hair and watching this video and my hair sheds due to being twisted for 2 weeks but it was alarming this time.
Good morning Connie. Thank you so much for sharing this. I know you will get back on track with your hair! It is unfortunate many women are having issues with Mielle, this video was not meant to demean , disparage , or disrespect. This video was to simply talk about what is going on. This is one of several companies that has been acquired and people are concern. We want to patronize and support our black hair care companies, but it should not come at a cost.
Let me just say I am oh so so so glad that I am not one to jump on every product bandwagon that comes along!..people are clearly experiencing some serious hair issues with these products… did this all come about AFTER Mielle was acquired by P&G? I’m just wondering..If anyone has any products left over it should be lab tested! Yes it costs but I would want to know if there is anything unusual mixed in because these hair stories are disturbing! * Your home is so nice and clean…Your presence deserves a higher platform beyond RUclips BUT we’re all glad you’re bringing the content. I have to say it’s like watching someone from a hierarchy give a speech at a carnival…I know you totally get what I mean!
It’s a good thing my mum found out about this and we stopped using it. I was using their shampoo and scalp oil, and my scalp was often itchy. Switched to using just unscented Castile soap on my scalp and it felt better.
Not that organic always means safer anyway. I’m organically allergic asl to sunflower and almond oils, which means I have to stay away from MOST prepared formulas, especially oils that stay on the hair or scalp.
Rosemary makes my hair fall out in clumps just from using it from making a rosemary tea and putting it in a bottle to spray on my hair. My hair immediately fell out. I tried to change the amount and at one point there was so little of it in bottle there's no point in even using it. It's very harsh for certain types of hair. So when i saw that was in it I never bought it thank goodness!
This was a very interesting video, Mya. ITA... I can't believe anyone would pay $640 M dollars and not have control over formulations, sourcing of ingredients, etc. It is so sad to see the videos popping everywhere of examples of damage and excessive hair fall. Linda Lynn's video (both the old and the more recent) was truly an eye opener. As you said before all products do not work for everyone. I am so sorry for all those affected by this.
Good morning MJ! Thant is just my opinion. I just don't see with that type of money how things would remain the same. Some in the community have made the comment maybe the told her that or sold her a lie.
I studied cosmetics ingredients and looked at the products there is not much different ingredients the mielle products uses that aren't used in the popular natural hair products I will say they do contain a lot of essential oils and herbal extracts so it maybe people are having some allergic reactions to the herbs and essential oils like there is no crazy chemical in the products, they are all commonly used in skin hair products so it means either people are allergic to the ingredients or it may be too much essential oils that are used in the products ,moving forward make sure to always read the ingredients and use new products on smaller patches of hair to make sure it works before using it on your whole head,Also thank you for touching on the scalp build up I do not apply products that are meant to be rinsed out on my scalp as I get build up easily ,Hormones can also impact hair loss so please make sure it has nothing to do with hormonal hair loss and yes WATER FILTER PLEASE !!
Hello Mya I tried the Mielle Rosemary oil it made my scalp itch so I didn’t use it anymore. I feel that every product doesn’t work the same on everyone.Thanks for sharing.💜🌸
I’m not sure if I’ll use the new bottle I got recently but i haven’t had the issues these ladies have had. However, I’m a white woman with waist length mostly straight/slightly wavy hair. I also only use this oil sometimes. I’ll put it on my scalp 15 minutes before getting in the shower then I’ll double shampoo starting with a clarifying shampoo. I suppose the fact it’s only on my scalp 15 minutes before getting a deep cleaning helps. I guess if a woman still wants to try it, don’t let it sit on your scalp too long? Idk the solution, but I know this method seems to be keeping my scalp from reacting too poorly. Regardless of how my scalp reacts I’m sad these women are dealing with this. Getting something cause you think it’ll help just to have your hair fall out in clumps would be devastating! I hope they can get some answers cause I believe they’re on to something. There’s gotta be something in the product that’s doing this. I trust they know their hair well enough to not believe the nonsense claim that it’s “normal daily shedding” that seems like total gaslighting.
Monique, are you so foolish to believe that a company that you sold to a non-black will allow you to lead it? Sweetheart, CEO is a vanity title now that you no longer own the company. That means they can get rid of you whenever they get sick of you😢❤
I just started using Mielle products and they seem to work well for me but I will keep an extra close eye on my hair if I notice damage I will have a likely suspect
Pay keen attention because I didn't see excessive shedding but there has been breakage and I didn't realise it could be the product so I've used it a few times. I only used the masque twice because it was so drying. For the past few months, i have been clipping my hair several times because it has been looking stringy. I should've realised so, don't just look for excessive shedding. Check to see if your hair is thining at the ends.
It’s the hydrolized wheat protein !!! I promise!! The same thing happen to me, but luckily it was the first time I used it!! I have high porosity hair and I am susceptible to protein overload, I know what it feels, looks, and behaves like on my hair type!! This was a severe case characterized by the excessive shedding! Prior to trying these product I was nearly exclusively using Indian hair care( fenugreek, hibiscus, bhirani, amla, etc) so my shedding was at an absolute minimum . I’m talking a dime size ball on wash day every two week!!! I was terrified when I started shedding!!! TO FIX IT; I clarified my hair with Ions clarifying treatment to remove excess protein from the shaft. Then did a deep conditioning(NON strengthening/repair/ restore/ etc..moisture only) treatment with heat, or you can do a fenugreek and hibiscus mask! Then deep conditioning weekly with heat until my hairs protein/ moisture level were balanced!! Also, the rosemary oil I made myself caused noticeable shedding, I further diluted it and use it as a hot oil treatment not a leave on!! I hope this helps some one, who is still suffering from the shedding!! Oh yeah I’ve been using shower filters for yeeeeaaarrrsss now!!! I will never be without one!!! But yeah hard water and heavy protein can be detrimental to hair and scalp health!!!
Oh that sucks if it’s the protein! My hair LOVES protein and hates all moisture all the time. It starts to look and feel like overcooked spaghetti. My hair requires a balance, but I also DO love my Indian hair care products. The combination works really well for me.
I relate to what the hijabi said. I too used the oil and I also had a bald/extremely thin spot at the top of my head... I didnt ever suspect Mielle hair oil
I love the shampoo and use it every week. I haven’t experienced any hair loss, and my hair grown out nicely from a short cut I got last year. It’s thick, healthy and I’m actually relaxed. Tuning in to the video to learn in case I’m missing something! Love your content.
Never understood why black women flock toward hair products.....never will! When growing up we children used what we were provided (by our parents) water, a very basic shampoo no certain brand only that which was affordable, a basic hair grease again no particular brand but yet a particular brand which was affordable and served the purpose aka Royal Crown* and last but not least a hot comb. Always rocking pony tails or braids! Our hair never fell out nor was burned out by the hot comb. The hair grows naturally doesn't need anything more than washing and routine maintenance! Y'all buy all that mess making the rich richer and your hair gains nothing.
Respectfully, it’s disingenuous to say that we all grew up using the same things. My mom slapped a relaxer on my head when I was 6 or 7; I haven’t used Crown Royal or a hot comb since then, and I’m almost 45. My mom used Creme of Nature shampoo, Infusium 23 conditioner, and Lottabody setting lotion. She was very brand specific, and at 77 still is. And most Black people I grew up weren’t wearing their hair naturally curly (as you said, hot comb was a “last but not least” item), so that routine doesn’t necessarily work when your goal isn’t to wear your hair straight. Now, do I think we have a tendency to always try something to make things happen faster? Yes, I do. I have staples that I rarely stray from, but I’m not using any basic shampoo on my head and I haven’t touched any heat besides a blowdryer since 2017 (and 2 was ONCE for my engagement photos), and I’m okay with both of those.
Many of our parents didn’t know how to properly even comb our hair. They stick to basic routines because that’s all they knew and it did not produce flourishing hair in many of us.
@@_Ridethemaverick I only speak the facts I know based on personal experiences. Fortunately those facts I speak about regarding me and mine were fruitful!
This is a fair and balanced vid. Thank you for using your platform to bring more awareness to the issue and for sharing your honest experience. I put up a vid today detailing all the toxic ingredients, formulation issues and reasons for the hair loss some are experiencing. Godspeed Sisters!
I have been using this product for a few weeks and had to stop because I was losing so much hair and thinning I couldn’t figure out the cause! I was about to start using this again for dry scalp, thank goodness I saw this. Throwing this crap out
Mielle changed their ingredients before any purchase in 2023. I have the original bottle and bought another bottle a year later. THE PRODUCT INGREDIENTS ON THE LABELS WERE CHANGED. I have lots since 2019 but used the products until I found out they switch the labels. Non of her ingredients are organic anymore.This is probably what contributed in hair lose.
I’ve been natural 2018. 3 months ago I tried Mielle’s products I wash every two weeks. Every wash day my hair was literally falling out of my head from the scalp. Before my hair was healthy and full now it’s thin and almost see through. This never happened until I used this product and I’m so hurt.
I used the metallic pink label. As thick as my hair is, it shed soooo bad I was in shock! And my scalp was on fire for days after using! I was telling a relative what happened and I was so confused. I didn't put two and two together at the time. Now seeing this, it makes sense. And due to the line being a more expensive brand that I had in my stash, I would rotate so it would last longer. I originally had a goal of using all of my hair products before buying more. But now this stuff sits in my cabinet... 🤦🏾♀️
What you are saying about individual factors regarding hair loss issues is 100% correct and I agree with that. A whole lot of education about our hair and scalp and how they react to different ingredients and factors need to be considered when our hair is not growing to the best of its ability and when we are experiencing hair loss issues. It’s common courtesy to let the consumer know and understand what is going on their hair and scalp. I will be searching hard for enlightenment on this subject in more depth.
Hey, Beautiful! Good Job on giving a comprehensive overview of the situation. For BW, our hair is spirtually life or death for us and makes me cry that we are feeling this familiar panicky mode about this hair product from a founder we expect to always look out for us! With that said, perception is a funny thing. You mention the Coca Cola never changed their formula (except the cocaine). However, when they did a mass taste test with the public between Pepsi and Coca Cola, most die hard drinking Coca Cola failed. My point, I lean on theory that P&G as a new big producer of the product to cut corners and mass produce one of a thousand products they oversee, the formula changed/diluted.
Good morning and thank you! lol interesting point on the Coca Cola test. I hope Mielle and P and G can recover, it will take some work to gain the trust back.
What you said about correct use of the products as well as understanding your hair is very true, I use the Mielle Organics Rosemary Mint collection and its working very well for me. I have seen tremendous growth as well as more volume. I have thin and very high porosity hair. However, If I use Castor oil in my hair, and because my hair is thin, I see a lot of breakage. So it all boils down to understand your natural hair texture.
This is an informative, insightful, and balanced video on this subject matter. I never used the entire Mielle rosemary mint product line. I only used the oil serum. I always thought that even though rosemary and mint can be good for hair growth that those herbs should only be used on the scalp not on the hair shaft, which is why I never used the shampoo or conditioner or the hair mask. I also know my hair porosity and thought the oil serum shouldn't be used on my scalp everyday. To much of a good thing can be bad.
Good morning and thank you. Form the comments so far, it seems the Rosemary line may a concern, and it was specifically pointed out in the printed statement.
The girls need to learn how to read the ingredients on a bottle and know that every ingredient shouldn’t go in your hair all the time. Just because something smells good doesn’t make it good for your hair!❤️💯
Hiring a chemist to test ingredients from unused portions purchased and comparative volume of the ingredients per container across multiple individuals impacted would help bring more tangible clarity and see if there exist a pattern as to why. For example, for if a product contain too much essential oil, i.e rosemary it is enough to damage hair. When products are made at a major manufacturer, whether automated or not, quality control mishaps can happen. Would be great if someone started looking into it from that angle.
Sis, you are very well spoken and very prudent, Praise YHWH. Also, big ups to you for not playing clips with any profanity, that's very refreshing. Peace & YHWH Bless.
I'm half-black with the same hair texture as Monique's but not the same length. I use Mielle Moisturize Milk from the Rice Water collection. I have never used her shampoos, gels, oil treatments. It sounds like the issues are coming from the oil treatments and shampoo. I have never experienced negative side affects from using Mielle Moisturizer Milk. I use it in conjunction with Pink products (Pink shampoo, pink gel, Pink oil), the company that my mother would use on my hair since birth and of course water. My hair is thick and healthy. I don't know if this issue is linked only to her shampoos and oil treatments or if it is a combination of things at home like heat and chemical treatments. Regardless, if it is only happening to her shampoo and oil treatments, then that is a big problem that needs to be addressed.
I'm full black with natural hair. I've used the Rosemary Mint shampoo/conditioner and Leave-in. I have used the RM oil (regular and the new lighter one). I've used her mint almond oil, and her entire Sea Moss line and really like her Rosemary Mint deep conditioner. Only product I used and didn't like was the Moisturizing Milk (white product with the pink label). No issues.
Dang that’s crazy that’s why I’m always hesitant to try new products . I’m the if ain’t broke don’t fix it type . There’s no need to switch if what your using now is working well .
Love your channel and I appreciate this video. You educated me and helped me understand more about this unfortunate situation. Unfortunately I will not be using any more of her products. And I am thankful that I didn’t have any serious issues when using her products. However it will be interesting to see if people will file a class action lawsuit against the company in the future.
If you want to be successful in any endeavor and/or business venture you do not need to be acquired by a bigger corporation or conglomerate to see growth, profit and success. The product or service will speak for itself. If you are going to do something great for the community, keep it at that and don’t change anything to “level up”! Success is not a justification for doing bad business. If it ain’t broke, then don’t fix it! It’s that simple! If you sell a bad product, word will get out and you will actually lose money. So there you go!
Hello from London U.K. I bought the Rosemary Mint conditioner from them and the hair oil. I did used the oil only once and no problems. In fact it felt nice on my scalp. But I decided to continue to use my homemade hair oil ( glad I did). But for some reason I didn’t use the conditioner. I just left it on the bathroom counter. My intuition was telling me don’t use it. So when I started seeing the videos on Mielle products the balding the breakage the scalp irritation. I decided to throw away the conditioner and oil. I am NOT going to chance it. And besides my homemade hair oil etc is doing my hair so good.
Excellent video recapping the events. I have been following them and have been following natural hair you tubers on hair care because I transitioned to that in January 2024. I purchased the rosemary oil only and was hesitant to try anything else because of the comments. I used the rosemary oil and then purchased a second bottle. About 3 months ago I got a light spot near my side burn and stopped using the oil. I started taking vitamins (Dr. Berg hair vitamins) and it’s been about a month. I have not seen any improvement (new hair growth) but the area is not getting bigger. I can’t confirm it’s the Mielle rosemary oil but I certainly have seen a difference. As for oil, I just created my own concoction and began using that in my scalp but not applying it in the area where it’s balding. I want to give that area a break for a few weeks and am hoping it heals and I have hair grow there.
Good morning, thank you. And thank you for sharing your experience. I tried the Rosemary collection and it dried my hair out as I outlined in the video. I also tried the Rosemary oil, we are not friends lol. For the oil, I did read the ingredients and it does contain sweet almond oil, we do not get along either lol.
@@KlassicallyKept i wish i had seen your video before I bought this line. My hair was matted mess after using the masque😭 It was dry and rough like sandpaper. I am experiencing breakage in the front and crown but I didn't think it was the products. The front of my hair has become so stringy that almost everytime I wash my hair I have to be clipping it. 😣
@@KlassicallyKept I'm new to your Channel, and this was the video I was looking for. .A Thorough deep dive into what's really going on with this brand.. You presented the info /testimonials and specifics on this unsettling situation. I had to re trace my steps to see if I had used Rosemary and mint.. Never used the oil but I did use the mask a couple of years ago. My hair came out in 2021 after having Covid. I also used the Pomegranate & honey leave in but never notice or attributed it to my hair shed.. My hair grew back from using Ayurvedic herbs..Amla & Fenugreek .I will not be purchasing any more Mielle products...This was an eye opening and thought provoking video ...Well put together!! You embody your RUclips name!!!! Subscribed!!!!
Girl I am one of those women caught with her pants down and buckets of hair falling out. My aunt bought me the mielle rosemary line for my birthday so I thought I’ll use it all up then move on. My hair became sooo tangled and started falling out left and right!! But thanks to you and your recommendation of the Dara naturals hair grease my hair is back baby!! Thank you so much I am beyond grateful to you!! 🙌🏾🎉
Here is a “pro tip” on product instructions. If a product says use a dime size amount start with that. If it isn’t enough for your whole head split your hair in half and use a dime size amount on each half. Basically break your hair down into sections until a dime sized amount is enough. Sometimes you need that small amount because a larger amount won’t spread well. I have enough hair for 4 people so that is how I use product.
Unpopular opinion, but Mielle Organics founder Monique & her husband harassed & disrespected Linda Lynn (a black woman RUclipsr) when she said she didn't like her products 4 years ago. It was the rice water collection. I NEVER bought any of Mielles products because of that. It was so unprofessional, childish, & a prime example of misogynoir. It's unfortunate that a lot of women are losing their hair, but that's black women's problem. Why shop with someone who disrespected women who look like you? We are the only race of women who do that. You can disrespect us & still have our money. Sorry but not me! I knew she was trash when she did that, so it's no surprise at what's happening now. So it's very hard for me to feel bad for the women who lost their hair because based on how the owner acted 4 years ago, this is the only way it could've ended. How people treat their customers & people who patronize their business tells you a lot. If you didn't know about the drama then you either live under a rock, or knew but just didn't care (it works for me so idc) & now look. So let's do better by ourselves & by each other. There were so many black women who defended Linda back then & God rewarded them. I think black women need to have discernment, be a little bit more conscious of where our money goes & not be so excited to see a black-owned or black-woman owned business bc all skinfolk ain't kinfolk & all black women aren't sisters they are just mammies
I hate our people are going through this! 👀🤦🏾♀️ Y’all, please respect y’all selves and find other black products that will work for you.🤷🏾♀️ I am not one to jump on influencer band wagons when it comes to my hair. Back when I was a loose natural around 2008ish, I remember natural hair influencers hyping up coconut oil and Cantù products. I tried it for about a week and my hair did NOTHING! The products did NOT work for my textured hair.👀 So I kept it pushing and moving. What worked for me was Aunt Jackie’s products. I used those right up until I loc’d up my hair starting in 2018. Please listen to your hair and know for yourself what will work for it and you. The loc community pushes or was pushing rose oil. I tried it and I HATE the smell of it, so I don’t buy it. I am not going to keep buying something that does not work for me just because it works for the other people. Peppermint oil, love it. Lavender oil, love it. Lemongrass oil, love it. Coconut oil, love the smell but my hair and body don’t love it. Rose oil, hate it. The smell is too strong for me. Anyway, I pray healthy hair, healthy scalp health, and healing to all my people. Peace, blessings, and many prayers.😔😔😔🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I am currently using Healthy Hair Studio By Enitan products who is a Trichologist in London. I love all of her products. Found them by watching Fumi Desalu Vold. The products are made in England and they are very stringent on what can be used in products.
The EU has some of the strictest guidelines on personal care products in the world. I think it is a good rule of thumb to check to see you personal care products follow these guidelines with their ingredients.
I use Enitan also. Love it. New purchased arrived with her new shampoo which I will try today. A friend gave me Mielle Rosemary oil for my thinning top which got worse with its use and noticed a coarseness to my hair.
Oh my God. I have been using her shampoo & conditioner since it’s been in Sally’s beauty. I already have CCCA but it was under control. I was doing so good until early 2023. I had to go back to my dermatologist this year to get my treatments again. My hair do feels different after my shampoo & conditioning. I’m throwing my products in the trash! I’m mad!!!
There's one control in this entire scenario. Them trying to blame variables in application to this huge pool is obnoxious. Allergic reactions, misuse!? On all these varying people, around the same span of time, with one brand involved? The gaslighting is wildly disrespectful.
Gonna just add that your hair looks absolutely beautiful… first video I’ve seen of yours (subscribed) and I’ve also NEVER colored my hair and I’m in my 30s now…. staying natural paid off big time
Ok. No more Mielle for me. I did notice a bit more shedding going on. And I purchased quite a bit of product during one of their sales. Now I have a bunch I more than likely will throw out. And my bottle of Rosemary oil fell and the bottle cracked and the top part of the bottle broke off. That must have been a sign not to use it. I think I used some once from the bottle. Also, I recall people complaining about some of the products some years back about adverse results during product reviews and reports of her and her husband snapping back at people who gave reviews they didn’t like and I recall their being quite a few now that I think about it. So perhaps some of the formulas were off a bit from then.
Thanks for the video, I was going to stop using, but after listening to Miellle, I believe her and I think her statement definitely helped a lot. Thanks for sharing.
In my humble opinion trends seldom hold up to the scrutiny. If you have a product that works for you don’t totally abandon it for the newest thing. And I will advise anyone to slowly add new products so in case you have an issue then you will know exactly what is causing the issue. ❤
39:49 Hi dear your first numbers following your instinct/head calculations were accurate because when you updated the last 5% to a 10% the total was 110% I adore content creators like you who are thorough and provide clear examples, explanations and are willing to be corrected if needed. I know this means nothing taking into account the accuracy of the vídeo but I just wanted to let you know. Again, Thank you dear for your outstanding job. ❤
To become a global brand you have cut corners some corporations put products over people. I don't know about the claims i know how these business work.
Not to mention I can't see her selling her products to latin America or Africa, the main black communities outside the US. So who is she really targeting when she says global 🤔
Im soooo glad i avoided this brand. I tried it ONCE, their leave-in dried out my strands and their rosemary oil did nothing. Edit: i was also hella turned off by their commercials for some reason😂😂😂😂😂
It’s a strengthening line, it shouldn’t be used all the time. It will dry your hair out and break it off. No strengthening product should be use all the time. We need to start doing our research before just putting products in our hair.
I remember using cantu before the acquisition. It did wonders for my hair, but once it got acquired my hair became dry and brittle. I immediately stopped. I switched to hair products called Afro hair candy. My hair thrived and it grew down to my back. I’m not here to bash mielle but once these black owned company get acquired that’s it! The ingredients will change . It’s important to do diligence to research the ingredients and where the company is from
First I have to say you did an amazing job on this video 👏🏾. Next let's get the emotions out of the way I've always had a sensitive scalp so I never know what's going to cause it to react to things. So it was hard hearing these women's including your issues with the products. The balding and shedding leading to tears, anger and frustration was horrible I wanted to hug them. With you I know you know your hair well so you luckily stopped before it got worse but what if you were using a new gel or cream and thought it was that? It would have been weeks more of trying to figure it out and I think that's what the company isn't getting. Everyone's hair and body is so different so it's your job as the company to test more after an acquisition since you have new scientific eyes on your product. Not ignore the cases of the allergic reactions or other issues. It's so disappointing that they didn't see this as an opportunity to fix what's wrong. Yeah the balding and shedding is horrible and you don't want to own it but your dry hair deserved better as well. Stop expecting our support if you aren't going to be meticulous about taking care of our hair. Thanks for this video 🤎
Good morning and thank you. I enjoyed the research. I think you have made a great point. You may have young lady who is starting her natural journey and is a using a product but she is not sure what to look out for. You may have another young lady who is using the products but her reaction to the product doesn't show up for some time. I think you make a great point about support. I do not think people have an actual issue the aquisition itself, its what follows that people have an issue with. We have seen time and time again when a hair care company is acquired things begin to change.
I bought entire line and my hair started falling out and shedding was X9 and left my hair dry needing excess moisture it never required ! I am still recovering my hair and went back to good ol faithful cantu !
I see everyone is doing a video on this topic now. I haven't thought about doing a video on that. I'd never use these products and I feel so bad for the women that did use these products. I don't jump on the bandwagon whenever someone brings something out, whatever I have in my hair regiment that works. I don't care if it's been out for 30 years. I'm gonna keep it until they've just stopped making it.. I hope to pray these teachers.Everyone else and don't get on a bandwagon with everybody.If you have products that work in your hair like a teacher on my channel keep using them don't differ❤❤
I thought I was losing my mind (along with my hair 😅) when I started to notice. I usually oil my hair early in the day before I wash it. I’ve used the oil sporadically but this month I used it almost exclusively on my hair and… no words. ☹️
Another Receipt of why I don't use chemicals on my 4C Coils. The BC will team 👆🏿 with brad, becky, anyone to make a profit. 👍🏾 I stay far away from modern, Natural beauty products because there's really nothing *Natural* about it. Thanks for sharing.... 💕
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What made me sad about this situation is the CEO and some commentators online writing that the reason behind the hair lose BW may be experiencing is bad hygiene or excessive styling.
Never heard anything like this in any other community. Never seen such gaslighting. Never seen anyone, any client be treated this way, specially while showing the damage caused to their body.
like, are you serious???
Some people may want to continue supporting the brand but this is enough for me to never buy from Mielle. I'll use something else on my "stinky hair and scalp". I have some self-respect.
@@mellonxo I was not aware of the hygiene comments. I hope Monique and P and G can get it together.
Exactly, I understand people saying go to a doctor to see if it's internal because sometimes that happens and it's always good to check just in case, but the specific gaslighting that happens within the black community about putting down other people saying they are dirty or they don't know anything about their hair is so gross. I would never assume someone who is experiencing sudden major hair loss and damage is just "not washing their hair enough" , it's clearly something else and it's serious to that person.
@@Molly-iw1rcexactly!! I’ve been natural for over 15 years & I always had a thick healthy fro before I started using Mielle. Then I started noticing that my hair was constantly dry & breaking off, even though my hair care routine was the same. Ppl love to gaslight us about our hair! The worst thing I ever did was take hair care advice from some of these self loathing “naturalistas” online
Right when the looser curly girls were losing their hair because of diva curl products nobody gaslit them people just believed it was the product. However there have been a few times bw have been gaslit about our experiences
She’s actually pretty right about the hygiene, according to google If left untreated, a buildup of oil, sweat, and dead skin can clog hair follicles, causing inflammation and infection. This condition is called folliculitis, and it can lead to hair loss and scarring.
Not washing your hair regularly can cause an accumulation of excess sebum on your scalp, which can lead to seborrheic dermatitis. This condition causes the scalp to become red, itchy, and inflamed, and scratching can lead to hair loss.
Excessive styling can be a reason why some people lose their hair as well which makes sense. But overall everyone’s hair is different I’ve had many products that don’t work well with my hair and this one that everyone is talking about is pretty good on me I haven’t had any hair loss or any other problems so I don’t think that someone’s bad experience with a hair brand should influence your own opinion about it. I’ve had my bad share of products that don’t work but i always tell people to try it for themselves because my experience might not be their experience and the product might actually be really great for them. At the end of the day everyone’s hair is different and i think this is what should be taken into account with this whole situation.
People are skipping the fact that her products do not say organic anymore. That means that the quality is no longer. Thats a key detail.
@@TheCarnivoreSoprano yes i remember when the name changed as well!
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Completely untrue. There’s no legal requirements to put the word ‘organic’ on a product in the US. Spam or Coca Cola could put ‘organic’ on their product and no one could stop them. It mean’s literally nothing, other than being a marketing ploy. Whether or not the word ‘organic’ is on Mielle means nothing and is not at all indicative of the quality, nor the quality of any other product.
It's not that it has organic on the label or not, it's that in the beginning organic was on the label and then they removed it. Why remove it otherwise?
@@chlorine_waspPeople are just moving from hearsay. I'm not falling for the hysteria until there's proof that the Mielle products are actually causing the hairloss. When that happens, I'll stop using Mielle products.
This incident has shown me I need to stick to my extremely basic natural hair care. The big brands have something up.
@@Blue-wv3le they do have something up. Their bank accounts!
Yes ma'am! So glad I never bought this oil. Its already expensive af in my country, and making my own herbal hair oils at home has never failed me.
Some of these “blk hair care” companies are in the business to keep you in wigs and weave. I ONLY use natural products such as coconut oils and homemade shampoos,etc. Don’t touch these brands ladies!
I agree. My hair regimen consists of me making them on the stove. I know exactly what I am using, and my hair is thriving.
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Whenever big companies take over small brands in any industry, things change. The formulas always change in cosmetics and hair care because these corporations are hardwired to reduce costs. We need to just support small businesses with products that work. I get it, get paid. But it always comes at a cost for the consumer.
Edit: Sometimes it can be vendors that change and not necessarily the formula. The change in sourced ingredients can drastically change a product even if the formula is the same.
I think you have made a great point.
We love to patronize and support our small businesses but that should not come at a cost.
The formula actually removed irritants that the original product had. They did not add anything that wasn’t already there.
The problem is that the product itself is potent and has a high dosage of essential oils. I think usage overtime is surely to do damage if not used properly and for a short period. The oil especially is very potent. I am disappointed more so in the fact that people were not advised on how to use it correctly.
@@kimberlytadiwanashemhuruye9033That’s a fact!! There are medical journals that actually say that when using potent oils like these, they are only to be left on for 45 min MAX and then washed out of the hair. The oil absorbs completely within that timeframe.. but ppl aren’t scientists/chemists, so how did they expect ppl to know this? It’s a shame.
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@@kimberlytadiwanashemhuruye9033That makes sense, essential oils are supposed to be dilated or they can cause irritation to the scalp. Maybe that’s why people are losing their hair, but it’s the brand’s responsibility to manufacture products that aren’t harsh on the scalp. But I also think they changed their sourcing for products.
Omg everyone has been exposing this hair line and I’ve been using it and have noticed my hair coming out in clumps as well and it’s been PASSED highly frustrating. If I could sue I would. This is NOT ok and now I have to start all over again. because if this hair line “care” I’ve now lost over six inches. Please leave this hair line alone ladies. I’ve thrown it all away. God bless you all.
@@MiracleMirMir I hope you are to recover !
Thank you and it’s even more frustrating because I have high porosity 4C hair which means I can’t just put anything in it.
Omg me too! I thought I was going crazy or had some health issues, but over the course of 6 months I have lost 6 inches in almost a quarter of my head. It was in the back so I couldn't really see, but I am Soo pissed! I thought I was having postpartum shedding but it never grew back and is getting worse. I'm never using them again.
@@MwtcultureisSHEI thought it was due to stress at the time. This is why word of mouth is so important. Many of us have had the same experience.
I told my husband last week that the products were not performing as before. Thank you for sharing the news!
I didn’t know the company was acquired. Maybe my hair just doesn’t take anymore. Unfortunately, I’ll need to start back making my hair care products in my kitchen. God bless her and her endeavors!
My grandma uses Mielle the rosemary shampoo & oil . Her hair has thinned to the point where it’s obvious & we thought it was alopecia BUT ITS THE PRODUCTS !!! Wooooow
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i am a cosmetologist. i was losing some hair due to menopause. i just started using coffee mixed with msm, olive oil and rosemary oil. i spray it onto my scalp morning and night. i just read a study that caffeine topically yields the same results as minoxidil. i then use carols daughter goddess strength conditioner on the rest of my hair and leave it on (not on my scalp and just a dime size on a 1/4 of my hair) i do this daily. i now have just a few strands of hair shed. mielle has not changed the formula, as monique said but the sourcing of the ingredients have changed. the quality of the ingredients. ladies we can make our own products ourselves. stop paying money for hair growth oils. mix your own! sending everyone peace, love and positive thoughts ❤ side note i wash my hair weekly and use acv after i wash my hair then follow with my caffeine formula
Exactly rosemary mint oil is simple 2 make.
@beigenegress2979 msm comes with a small measuring cup I use 6 scoops when I make hair butters.
@@RestingVirgoFace What does msm stand for?
@@kimcham9949 Methylsulfonylmethane is msm. it’s sulfur in powder form. you drink it and add it to your hair mixture. i add it to coffee and some rosemary oil and olive oil. i shake it up and spray it onto my scalp morning and night. i had 3 strands of hair come out this evening because my hair was tangled i have fine hair, medium porosity, 3c 4 a pattern coily ,chemical free. i do not use heat or hair gel. use the mix and your hair will grow within 2-3 business days you’ll see growth where there was none. you can add any oils you want to the msm caffeine mix. you can add tea free oil, castor oil. not too much but enough. always shake before spraying
@@RestingVirgoFace me too and sometimes more. i also add it to my water and take it orally. my joints don’t hurt anymore and my body feels awesome
I am very thankful for RUclips. I threw out all of her products and will not buy anymore. Everyone cannot be lying. Thank you for informing us
My hair fell out when I tried the pomegranate line. I did go to a doctor and we tried to find out why. I don't care if anyone believes me. I will never use that shyt again.
I believe you. I believed all those Deva Curl ladies also.
Off-topic: your complexion is perfect to me and your skin is so clear.
thank you
She’s so beautiful
Lab Beauty Science has a video that debunks the rosemary and hair growth connection. I think many Black women’s misunderstandings about hair growth and length retention puts us in a vulnerable position and makes us more susceptible to marketing claims.
Thanks, I’ll check that video out! I’ve always heard that the connection was made via a study where they used Rosemary oil on one test group and Minoxidil on another and found that the ppl who used the Rosemary oil had just as much hair growth, if not more. I can’t wait to check out their video to see if this is true or not!
I have seen the study as well, the results were shown on rats who had a patch of fur shaved and were given minoxidi, rosemary. And a control group. . I believe that rosemary actually helps with lengths retention as it reduced inflammation and increases blood flow. I think sometimes growth and retention are still confused which makes it harder to get a straight answer. I love that you're looking into this for yourself we definitely need to be more cautious about what we put in and on our bodies
That's very true and thank you for not putting down black women while pointing out we may be more susceptible to false marketing. Black women aren't naive but are just dealing with the same predatory marketing like everyone else, it's not surprising that people still believe rosemary makes hair grow because advertisers continue to say that to the public.
This this this! I read this too! Thats why im not falling for Cecred bc theyre saying rosewater causes hair growth…ummmm no. Its the protective styling and conditioning
@@Molly-iw1rc You’re welcome! That’s the word - predatory marketing. Marketing is so tricky. I remember Jennifer Rose explaining how they’re (companies) are allowed to make certain claims if they’re worded a particular way. It’s very misleading. And unfortunately, it’s easy for them to do market research on us, because in so many comments on RUclips, someone is asking about how to grow their hair. And that is likely *not* the issue. Retention is.
This is the reason I never fall for trends. Just because something is expensive, it doesn't mean it good. I wish people would stand by their decisions without pretending god gave them the greenlight to do something
It depends who their god is!
Mielle isn't expensive. I've been using the products for years. My skin and hair are pretty sensitive, and I'm not experiencing any problems.
This product is a reasonable price. I know who my GOD is too. I needed something for my 4c hair & this was recommended. It worked well until last year.
@@AboveknotbelowAgreed! Formula was probably changed or it was a fake!
Be very careful of products brought off Amazon too! I've been finessed by a few sellers with beauty products!
Beauty supply stores are notorious for selling expired items! Pull from the back of every row y'all 😌🫡
Never huh...😂
I used just the oil, one bottle before the merger and one bottle after. My hair was falling off my head, breaking, and my scalp was inflamed and so sensitive. It got to the point that I had to completely cut all my hair off. I still have some inflamed and sensitive spots. I am working with a dermatologist because I thought I was developing alopecia. If the formulation didn't change, they might have changed vendors.
Good morning!
I tried the scalp oil as well, it did not work for me.
I hope this is a situation where Mielle can take step back and go back to the drawing board.
This is crazy! I got the oil and some moisturizer which was sticky after use. Moved out of state and left it in storage! Thank goodness!!
How long did u use it? Why keep using it it there was always a problem?
@@RestingVirgoFace I only used it twice. I don’t care for the sticky residue after use
They should check, for relaxer or something else in product
If she was acquired by P&G, then the suppliers of the ingredients has definitely changed. I've noticed this with The Ordinary too; different suppliers offer different quality levels of the same ingredients. I believe that's what's happening with Mielle. The new (cheaper) suppliers are supplying lower quality ingredients. It may not read in lab-testing, but it will be felt by consumers. It's why I don't use the The Ordinary's Glycolic Acid Toner any more; they always be changing the supplier and I can smell and feel the difference.
I had no idea The Ordinary sold out to P&G I felt their Hyaluronic acid hasn’t been as effective lately. I understand companies wanting to expand but they’re risking losing the integrity of their products and losing customers
Thanks for letting me know about The Ordinary! Had no idea. I was actually using their Multi-Peptide Hair Density Serum. I’ll probably just stop now since I can’t tell if it really even worked or not.
I didn't know this about The Ordinary either. Crazy!!
It would explain how the ingredients list never changes, yet the experience has.
Omg I used to use their glycolic acid years ago consistently. I noticed each bottle was different but I thought I was crazy. I stopped using it as sometimes it would work and another bottle would break me out. Omg. 😮
I remember when the whole drama happened with Linda Lynn and Mielle I didn’t agree or like how it went down and I was one of those who stopped using the brand because of how she was treated. I loved watching her videos because she was so transparent with her product reviews. I’ve also used other products from other lines like The Vanilla line (it’s purple) from Carols Daughter as well as the castor oil line (beige color) from Shea Moisture in which made my hair so dry, never used it again. But with how they treated Linda Lynn I finished the products I did have (and loved -pomegranate line) and never bought from them again even with all the lines that has came out since then. I feel bad for those losing their hair and there’s been SO many people showing their hair before using and after, it’s been detrimental for so many.
Good morning.
I only found out about the Linda Lynn situation a few days ago, naturally it would resurface. I think it is very unfortunate that that is how they chose to handle the situation.
And as you said you were of the ladies who chose to stop buying from them. While I do not have a company as big as Mielle, I think this is a great lesson to companies in general, how you treat your customers matter.
@@KlassicallyKept you’re absolutely right. I am all about black women owned businesses but when you treat people like that who was honestly just giving her honest opinion about products she bought with her own money, it was disrespectful and unprofessional; how both her and her husband went about it. I went back and watched the video again and as I remembered Linda Lynn didn’t say anything bad. Her choice of words were probably just too much for the owner to take in.
I used Mielle when I was a loose natural specifically the Pomegranate and Honey collection, which at that time was amazing to my hair. However, the treatment Linda Lynn experienced was so unprofessional and of poor customer service I stopped using/supporting the brand. This is such an unfortunate experience for the women experiencing hair loss/trauma... I hope they're all able to recover!
Carols Daughter is TERRIBLE. Shea Moisture is hit or miss with me
The response she made to Linda Lynn is why I stopped using Mielle products and refuse to purchase any of them afterwards. I even threw out any Mielle products I had in my closet…plus I was on an Ayurvedic journey and Miele didn’t fit with that.
I used Mielle for the first time a couple years ago. I saw their $7 sale so decided to give them a try. After a couple months of using, I noticed when the product was in my hair, my hair looked great, but when the product was washed out, it felt dry. I thought it was interesting considering how greasy and oily the products were. The custard flaked EVERYWHERE, flakes might not be the word. It was gloopy and sticky. I decided to give it up based on that alone. I’m glad I did. I know how important our hair is to many of us. My heart goes out to the woman who have become victims of Mielles greed and lack of care. I will never touch their products again.
The custard is horrible..
There’s another RUclipsr named Mayowa’s World that speaks on this, and there are people that know the founder in the comments speaking on unscrupulous behavior and business practices (one involving school children), and instances of lack of bedside manner involving customers and their reviews online. I also remember when the products came out a lot of people were speaking on how it left a tingling feeling, and then believing that it meant the product was working, but I also feel that initial tingling they raved about could have been their scalps/skin becoming irritated from the products, and eventually causing excessive hair shedding and hair fall over time. I think people can mistake tingling for “it’s working!” When it can be the scalp telling you “I don’t like this at all” some people also said the products were strong and contained essential oils, which can be irritating unless diluted (even though they are supposedly diluted in the formula). It’s a shame so many women may have to start their hair journey over again. This reminds me of the DevaCurl situation all over again
Good morning.
I know of Mayowa's world!
This seems to be a pattern, I was only aware of the situation with Linda Lynn.
@@KlassicallyKept good morning ! And yes, I was just aware of that situation, but reading the comments on her video made me aware of so much more and it’s such a sad situation. So many people do not trust her or the brand anymore
I saw that. I agree with Mayowa 100%. I don't doubt that something may have changed. Maybe it's the formula or the way it's produced. However, I don't think Mielle was ever all that to begin with. I bought some of their stuff before they sold and it wasn't for me. I'm no cosmetic chemist but leave in is supposed to be light and gentle. That rosemary leave in is so thick. It leaves a cast unless you really work it in. Then it has a lot of fragrance and essential oils. I don't have sensitive skin. I feel like my hair can handle a lot. It literally made my scalp tingle. In fact one time I didn't wash it off my hands right away and I could feel it on the skin between my fingers. Even before all of this Mielle was not a brand like Cantu that you can just recommend to anybody. I would not recommend this is you have sensitive skin, relaxed hair, hear trained natural hair, eczema, any kind of scalp condition. Also the things about sensitizing ingredients that ppl don't think about is something might work if you only use it every once in a while, but you use harsh fragrance and oils over and over it states to have a cumulative effect. So even of she's telling the truth and they didn't change the formula it could still be making ppl lose their hair.
@@t_ylr I agree! The minute I read it had essential oils and people said it was heavy or made their scalp tingle or like you, it made their hands tingle as well, I politely walked passed it whenever I went to the store. I hope those ladies are able to be compensated and that more people give their experiences
Yeah I remember using the deep condition a few years ago and the product was tingly
I never enjoyed the notion that a business has to "grow" in order to be successful or useful for a community. Local businesses are much better for communities than most big businesses, no matter who is running it, because helping the community should be about connection and distribution of money. When your business is bigger and bigger, your money becomes more and more staggered when it comes to distribution. Money goes to the top and the people at the bottom and the consumers become numbers. That's how I feel at least.
That’s usually what happens but unfortunately black people have an inferiority complex where they don’t feel like they are successful unless they grow and can have “others@ buying their products.
If you started a business you would definitely want it to grow.
@@SaharaKnows not if it hurt my community in the process. Very rarely does a huge business keep up good standards and ethics, you do eventually "sell out" because no one needs to constantly grow, Mielle was making enough money before, I'm sure now they are very happy with the paychecks.
Most big businesses aren't actually about community. This is just a fact. It doesn't mean you shouldn't build a business for your community, but just know that the success might be lukewarm.
Big companies will usually change ingredients in order to cut costs, which raises their profit margins. Also, I'm guessing Mielle is a publicly traded company, and if not yet, it's only a matter of time. When they go public, their main goal is to get the profit margins as high as possible because they'll have investors who want that check, so that's when things usually go downhill from there.
Facts
I am glad you spoke on this I've been watching this unfold. I have commented on another channel that I watch a cosmetologist and from last year she was saying don't put rosemary in your hair it kills the good and bad bacteria and eventually your hair will fall out. She also has spoke about coconut oil, clove and rice water and exactly what she predicted people's hair would fall out. The owner spoke about she has a background in science, it would be interesting to know what type of science? Something women need to take note of with all these trends going around manufacturers will make the product to cash even though they know the product is trash.
I have never used Mielle but this has got me thinking, anyone can be allergic to anything so when we buy a new product we should test it. From now on, I will dab products behind my ear to see whether there is a reaction and is something people should consider doing.
My last point since all these trends have come in women are losing their hair at an alarming rate. If what you are using is working stick to it. Don't believe the hype nothing can grow your hair any faster that what rate it is supposed to grow at. We can only work towards retaining the growth, eat well, sleep well, exercise, drink water, wash hair regularly, never let it dry out and be gentle with our hair.
Hi, who’s the cosmetologist that you watch? I’ve been learning more about hair science so I’m interested in that type of content from professionals
I mean, you're supposed to dilute essential oils like rosemary oil. However, from my understanding, the Mielle one was marketed as being already diluted and ready for use in consumer's hair. :/
@@AbigailJ.I don't think it's fair to mention another channel on this channel. I will let you know that I also two beauty scientists and they also say rosemary does not grow your hair. The study everyone is referring to is not accurate and they broke down why it isn't accurate.
@@no.6377 It is diluted but it doesn't change the fact rosemary is in the oil. There also something else I should have mentioned the little dropper in the bottle I always see people dragging it across their scalps. If you have type of bacteria yeast on your scalp when you put the dropper back in the bottle it will contaminate the oil and the user will be dragging that all over their scalp.
@@AbigailJ.try lab beauty science
I feel sorry for everyone who is going through hair loss. Please eveyone who notices a change in hair /hair loss stop use the products immediately. Don't wait a week month later to stop using it.Even though they said there isn't a class action doesn't mean there isn't one in the making. with mielle being under P&G they have big time lawyers,so they need more concrete evidence and more people to prove to the court that mielle is at fault. Its like the relaxer lawsuit.
Exactly it only takes one time for me.
Good morning.
Hopefully Mielle and P and G can get it together.
I had never heard of Mielle before I purchased the rosemary mint shampoo last month. I used the shampoo about two or three times and loved it. It left my hair soft, smooth, and manageable. Just happened across this video today, Sunday, September 15. I promptly threw the bottle in the trash. It did nothing but good things for my hair, but I’m not willing to play Russian roulette w my hair so I’ll stick w my tried and true.
I don't normally comment but I've been going through awful health problems to the point where I've been left disabled. I normally mix and apply my own oils but I saw this oil in the store and decided to buy it to save myself time and energy. Now that I think about it, since I bought it, my scalp has been even more sensitive and red. My Mom says she's noticed me losing more hair. This is horrifying. I already have sensitive skin because of my health and this definitely wasn't helping. I can't imagine the damage that would come from using the rest of their products 💔
This is interesting, im glad that i never used Mielle like that. I was a steady user of Carols Daughter when she was a boutique brand.. after the acquisition the formulations changed and i went full DIY, ive been seeing this trend amongst many black owned brands over the past 25yrs and it continues.. love your discussion on this matter. We really need to stay educated on our own hair and be ready to go grassroots and simplified ingredients at any point in time.
HARD WATER broke my low-back length hair off to above my shoulders and gave me bald spots. Hard water is no joke. I had to get a water softner system.
How did you realize that hard water caused the damage?
@@prettylady818usually brittle hair
I peeped that too city water vs well water has made a huge difference for me and my kids
I think that's what's stopping my hair too.
Can I just say your commentary was exceptional?!!!❤
thank you
Good morning Mya, so I have been watching different videos about this company all week and I was thinking, people will see a bad situation and just add so much more negativity. Then, I did my hair care routine last night and noticed more hair coming out but I shrugged it off. Finishing my hair this morning and my hair is still shedding while watching this. I started thinking…. look at this new leave in conditioner that you added a month ago/ wash every 2 weeks. Melanin hair care conditioner was out of stock and tried a new conditioner, Mya… turned the bottle around and guess what I was using while twisting my hair? Mielle leave in conditioner, the only new addition to my routine. 😡 I am a minimalist with hair products and have been using the same products for over a year and now so much shedding. Threw that out immediately.
I also tried their leave in specifically the pomegranate honey but couldn’t get past the smell. Never had a leave in dry my hair like it did. Good on you for noticing and doing what you need.
@@itsjessguys7005 I leave my hair in twist but shampoo, condition and re twist every two weeks. I normally use Melanin leave in and butter but she has been sold out. I honestly didn’t even pay attention to the fact that it was Mielle until I was twisting my hair and watching this video and my hair sheds due to being twisted for 2 weeks but it was alarming this time.
@@connieholmes4853 it’s amazing how our hair works. I’m doing a similar hair routine but with plaits, reducing manipulation is key 🔑
Yes the leave in conditioner I use all the time and yes my hair came out too. Had no idea it could be linked to the Mielle hair products
Good morning Connie. Thank you so much for sharing this. I know you will get back on track with your hair!
It is unfortunate many women are having issues with Mielle, this video was not meant to demean , disparage , or disrespect. This video was to simply talk about what is going on. This is one of several companies that has been acquired and people are concern.
We want to patronize and support our black hair care companies, but it should not come at a cost.
Let me just say I am oh so so so glad that I am not one to jump on every product bandwagon that comes along!..people are clearly experiencing some serious hair issues with these products… did this all come about AFTER Mielle was acquired by P&G? I’m just wondering..If anyone has any products left over it should be lab tested! Yes it costs but I would want to know if there is anything unusual mixed in because these hair stories are disturbing!
* Your home is so nice and clean…Your presence deserves a higher platform beyond RUclips BUT we’re all glad you’re bringing the content. I have to say it’s like watching someone from a hierarchy give a speech at a carnival…I know you totally get what I mean!
It’s a good thing my mum found out about this and we stopped using it. I was using their shampoo and scalp oil, and my scalp was often itchy. Switched to using just unscented Castile soap on my scalp and it felt better.
It’s so funny how a lot of these products are marketed as “organic”, I with mielle products my nose can only smell chemicals.
The packaging doesn't say "organics" anymore, so your sense of smell is 🎯
Not that organic always means safer anyway. I’m organically allergic asl to sunflower and almond oils, which means I have to stay away from MOST prepared formulas, especially oils that stay on the hair or scalp.
Blessings! First time seeing your videos and this is very broken down and informative. Thank you 🙏🌷🙋🏻♀️
Thank you so much !
The product speaks for itself. If your hair is now coming out. They changed it... Period.
Rosemary makes my hair fall out in clumps just from using it from making a rosemary tea and putting it in a bottle to spray on my hair. My hair immediately fell out. I tried to change the amount and at one point there was so little of it in bottle there's no point in even using it. It's very harsh for certain types of hair. So when i saw that was in it I never bought it thank goodness!
I'm glad you mentioned Linda lynn. This video was very detailed, thanks!
Thank you Bion.
I enjoyed the research.
This was a very interesting video, Mya. ITA... I can't believe anyone would pay $640 M dollars and not have control over formulations, sourcing of ingredients, etc. It is so sad to see the videos popping everywhere of examples of damage and excessive hair fall. Linda Lynn's video (both the old and the more recent) was truly an eye opener. As you said before all products do not work for everyone. I am so sorry for all those affected by this.
Good morning MJ!
Thant is just my opinion. I just don't see with that type of money how things would remain the same.
Some in the community have made the comment maybe the told her that or sold her a lie.
I studied cosmetics ingredients and looked at the products there is not much different ingredients the mielle products uses that aren't used in the popular natural hair products I will say they do contain a lot of essential oils and herbal extracts so it maybe people are having some allergic reactions to the herbs and essential oils like there is no crazy chemical in the products, they are all commonly used in skin hair products so it means either people are allergic to the ingredients or it may be too much essential oils that are used in the products ,moving forward make sure to always read the ingredients and use new products on smaller patches of hair to make sure it works before using it on your whole head,Also thank you for touching on the scalp build up I do not apply products that are meant to be rinsed out on my scalp as I get build up easily ,Hormones can also impact hair loss so please make sure it has nothing to do with hormonal hair loss and yes WATER FILTER PLEASE !!
Hello Mya I tried the Mielle Rosemary oil it made my scalp itch so I didn’t use it anymore. I feel that every product doesn’t work the same on everyone.Thanks for sharing.💜🌸
I’m not sure if I’ll use the new bottle I got recently but i haven’t had the issues these ladies have had. However, I’m a white woman with waist length mostly straight/slightly wavy hair. I also only use this oil sometimes. I’ll put it on my scalp 15 minutes before getting in the shower then I’ll double shampoo starting with a clarifying shampoo.
I suppose the fact it’s only on my scalp 15 minutes before getting a deep cleaning helps. I guess if a woman still wants to try it, don’t let it sit on your scalp too long? Idk the solution, but I know this method seems to be keeping my scalp from reacting too poorly.
Regardless of how my scalp reacts I’m sad these women are dealing with this. Getting something cause you think it’ll help just to have your hair fall out in clumps would be devastating! I hope they can get some answers cause I believe they’re on to something. There’s gotta be something in the product that’s doing this. I trust they know their hair well enough to not believe the nonsense claim that it’s “normal daily shedding” that seems like total gaslighting.
I realized your videos were coming onto my feed, I watch them but wasn't subscribed. I love the way you present your content.
Me2! No judgement and straightforward! But still with respect. Love it ❤
Also used Mielle rosemary line notice little hair tinning and stopped.
Thank you.
Welcome to the community.
Thanks for the information. I never tried the product. Sorry to hear this company is having production problems affecting people's hair and skin.
Monique, are you so foolish to believe that a company that you sold to a non-black will allow you to lead it? Sweetheart, CEO is a vanity title now that you no longer own the company. That means they can get rid of you whenever they get sick of you😢❤
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Please show some empathy. You can tell who have never tried started a business or building something. It’s extremely hard and take a lot of money.
So True 😮 she just gave her company away to a none Black why Not keep it in the Black 🤎🤎 Family
I just started using Mielle products and they seem to work well for me but I will keep an extra close eye on my hair if I notice damage I will have a likely suspect
Pay keen attention because I didn't see excessive shedding but there has been breakage and I didn't realise it could be the product so I've used it a few times. I only used the masque twice because it was so drying. For the past few months, i have been clipping my hair several times because it has been looking stringy. I should've realised so, don't just look for excessive shedding. Check to see if your hair is thining at the ends.
It’s the hydrolized wheat protein !!! I promise!! The same thing happen to me, but luckily it was the first time I used it!! I have high porosity hair and I am susceptible to protein overload, I know what it feels, looks, and behaves like on my hair type!! This was a severe case characterized by the excessive shedding! Prior to trying these product I was nearly exclusively using Indian hair care( fenugreek, hibiscus, bhirani, amla, etc) so my shedding was at an absolute minimum . I’m talking a dime size ball on wash day every two week!!! I was terrified when I started shedding!!! TO FIX IT; I clarified my hair with Ions clarifying treatment to remove excess protein from the shaft. Then did a deep conditioning(NON strengthening/repair/ restore/ etc..moisture only) treatment with heat, or you can do a fenugreek and hibiscus mask! Then deep conditioning weekly with heat until my hairs protein/ moisture level were balanced!! Also, the rosemary oil I made myself caused noticeable shedding, I further diluted it and use it as a hot oil treatment not a leave on!! I hope this helps some one, who is still suffering from the shedding!! Oh yeah I’ve been using shower filters for yeeeeaaarrrsss now!!! I will never be without one!!! But yeah hard water and heavy protein can be detrimental to hair and scalp health!!!
Oh that sucks if it’s the protein! My hair LOVES protein and hates all moisture all the time. It starts to look and feel like overcooked spaghetti. My hair requires a balance, but I also DO love my Indian hair care products. The combination works really well for me.
Green Beauty has her own protein treatment which is hydrolyzed wheat protein. I’d check out her video to learn more about it.
Good girl, I can tell you y watch green beauty 😂😂 Very well informed
I relate to what the hijabi said. I too used the oil and I also had a bald/extremely thin spot at the top of my head... I didnt ever suspect Mielle hair oil
I love the shampoo and use it every week. I haven’t experienced any hair loss, and my hair grown out nicely from a short cut I got last year. It’s thick, healthy and I’m actually relaxed. Tuning in to the video to learn in case I’m missing something! Love your content.
Thanks for keeping us up to date. This is my first time hearing about this.
Never understood why black women flock toward hair products.....never will! When growing up we children used what we were provided (by our parents) water, a very basic shampoo no certain brand only that which was affordable, a basic hair grease again no particular brand but yet a particular brand which was affordable and served the purpose aka Royal Crown* and last but not least a hot comb. Always rocking pony tails or braids! Our hair never fell out nor was burned out by the hot comb. The hair grows naturally doesn't need anything more than washing and routine maintenance! Y'all buy all that mess making the rich richer and your hair gains nothing.
Respectfully, it’s disingenuous to say that we all grew up using the same things. My mom slapped a relaxer on my head when I was 6 or 7; I haven’t used Crown Royal or a hot comb since then, and I’m almost 45. My mom used Creme of Nature shampoo, Infusium 23 conditioner, and Lottabody setting lotion. She was very brand specific, and at 77 still is. And most Black people I grew up weren’t wearing their hair naturally curly (as you said, hot comb was a “last but not least” item), so that routine doesn’t necessarily work when your goal isn’t to wear your hair straight.
Now, do I think we have a tendency to always try something to make things happen faster? Yes, I do. I have staples that I rarely stray from, but I’m not using any basic shampoo on my head and I haven’t touched any heat besides a blowdryer since 2017 (and 2 was ONCE for my engagement photos), and I’m okay with both of those.
Many of our parents didn’t know how to properly even comb our hair. They stick to basic routines because that’s all they knew and it did not produce flourishing hair in many of us.
@@_Ridethemaverick I only speak the facts I know based on personal experiences. Fortunately those facts I speak about regarding me and mine were fruitful!
@@TheRonnieaj good for you🥰. What we practiced worked for us. God is great!
@@_Ridethemaverickflourishing meaning what?
Mya, thank you for your thorough work on this situation.
Thank you.
I enjoyed the deep dive.
This is a fair and balanced vid. Thank you for using your platform to bring more awareness to the issue and for sharing your honest experience. I put up a vid today detailing all the toxic ingredients, formulation issues and reasons for the hair loss some are experiencing. Godspeed Sisters!
I have been using this product for a few weeks and had to stop because I was losing so much hair and thinning I couldn’t figure out the cause! I was about to start using this again for dry scalp, thank goodness I saw this. Throwing this crap out
Mielle changed their ingredients before any purchase in 2023. I have the original bottle and bought another bottle a year later. THE PRODUCT INGREDIENTS ON THE LABELS WERE CHANGED. I have lots since 2019 but used the products until I found out they switch the labels. Non of her ingredients are organic anymore.This is probably what contributed in hair lose.
There are some women who have stated this as well.
I tried using that oil and shortly after I noticed my scalp being irritated. I threw it away with a lot left in the bottle.
I’ve been natural 2018. 3 months ago I tried Mielle’s products I wash every two weeks. Every wash day my hair was literally falling out of my head from the scalp. Before my hair was healthy and full now it’s thin and almost see through. This never happened until I used this product and I’m so hurt.
I used the metallic pink label. As thick as my hair is, it shed soooo bad I was in shock! And my scalp was on fire for days after using! I was telling a relative what happened and I was so confused. I didn't put two and two together at the time. Now seeing this, it makes sense. And due to the line being a more expensive brand that I had in my stash, I would rotate so it would last longer. I originally had a goal of using all of my hair products before buying more. But now this stuff sits in my cabinet... 🤦🏾♀️
What you are saying about individual factors regarding hair loss issues is 100% correct and I agree with that. A whole lot of education about our hair and scalp and how they react to different ingredients and factors need to be considered when our hair is not growing to the best of its ability and when we are experiencing hair loss issues. It’s common courtesy to let the consumer know and understand what is going on their hair and scalp. I will be searching hard for enlightenment on this subject in more depth.
Hey, Beautiful! Good Job on giving a comprehensive overview of the situation. For BW, our hair is spirtually life or death for us and makes me cry that we are feeling this familiar panicky mode about this hair product from a founder we expect to always look out for us! With that said, perception is a funny thing. You mention the Coca Cola never changed their formula (except the cocaine). However, when they did a mass taste test with the public between Pepsi and Coca Cola, most die hard drinking Coca Cola failed. My point, I lean on theory that P&G as a new big producer of the product to cut corners and mass produce one of a thousand products they oversee, the formula changed/diluted.
Good morning and thank you!
lol interesting point on the Coca Cola test.
I hope Mielle and P and G can recover, it will take some work to gain the trust back.
What you said about correct use of the products as well as understanding your hair is very true, I use the Mielle Organics Rosemary Mint collection and its working very well for me. I have seen tremendous growth as well as more volume. I have thin and very high porosity hair. However, If I use Castor oil in my hair, and because my hair is thin, I see a lot of breakage. So it all boils down to understand your natural hair texture.
This is an informative, insightful, and balanced video on this subject matter. I never used the entire Mielle rosemary mint product line. I only used the oil serum. I always thought that even though rosemary and mint can be good for hair growth that those herbs should only be used on the scalp not on the hair shaft, which is why I never used the shampoo or conditioner or the hair mask. I also know my hair porosity and thought the oil serum shouldn't be used on my scalp everyday. To much of a good thing can be bad.
Good morning and thank you.
Form the comments so far, it seems the Rosemary line may a concern, and it was specifically pointed out in the printed statement.
You made some great points from both the consumer side and the business side to consider. Food for thought 💭.
thank you
The girls need to learn how to read the ingredients on a bottle and know that every ingredient shouldn’t go in your hair all the time. Just because something smells good doesn’t make it good for your hair!❤️💯
Reading labels is very important, great point.
P&G might’ve sold her on a nice concept but the reality is they wanted those dollars and nothing else!
Many people have stated this as well.
I hope they are able to get back on track.
They will have build trust again.
I truly enjoy your videos. What you said in this video makes since to me. Thank you for sharing 💜
Thank you and of course
Im a 80s baby... I stick to hair grease ❤😒
What do you wash your hair with?
@@Ashley-bm9gc ORS Olive Oil products
@@Ashley-bm9gcthe shampoo and conditioner yt ppl use
Hiring a chemist to test ingredients from unused portions purchased and comparative volume of the ingredients per container across multiple individuals impacted would help bring more tangible clarity and see if there exist a pattern as to why. For example, for if a product contain too much essential oil, i.e rosemary it is enough to damage hair. When products are made at a major manufacturer, whether automated or not, quality control mishaps can happen. Would be great if someone started looking into it from that angle.
Sis, you are very well spoken and very prudent, Praise YHWH. Also, big ups to you for not playing clips with any profanity, that's very refreshing. Peace & YHWH Bless.
Good morning and thank you!
lol my mother and father watch my videos, they would not be happy.
But I also know younger audiences watch my channel.
I'm half-black with the same hair texture as Monique's but not the same length. I use Mielle Moisturize Milk from the Rice Water collection. I have never used her shampoos, gels, oil treatments. It sounds like the issues are coming from the oil treatments and shampoo.
I have never experienced negative side affects from using Mielle Moisturizer Milk. I use it in conjunction with Pink products (Pink shampoo, pink gel, Pink oil), the company that my mother would use on my hair since birth and of course water. My hair is thick and healthy.
I don't know if this issue is linked only to her shampoos and oil treatments or if it is a combination of things at home like heat and chemical treatments. Regardless, if it is only happening to her shampoo and oil treatments, then that is a big problem that needs to be addressed.
I'm full black with natural hair. I've used the Rosemary Mint shampoo/conditioner and Leave-in. I have used the RM oil (regular and the new lighter one). I've used her mint almond oil, and her entire Sea Moss line and really like her Rosemary Mint deep conditioner. Only product I used and didn't like was the Moisturizing Milk (white product with the pink label). No issues.
@@caramia4143 You had no issues too. I wonder what's really going on here.
Dang that’s crazy that’s why I’m always hesitant to try new products . I’m the if ain’t broke don’t fix it type . There’s no need to switch if what your using now is working well .
Love your channel and I appreciate this video. You educated me and helped me understand more about this unfortunate situation. Unfortunately I will not be using any more of her products. And I am thankful that I didn’t have any serious issues when using her products. However it will be interesting to see if people will file a class action lawsuit against the company in the future.
Good morning and thank you.
More than likely a class action lawsuit will follow.
If you want to be successful in any endeavor and/or business venture you do not need to be acquired by a bigger corporation or conglomerate to see growth, profit and success. The product or service will speak for itself. If you are going to do something great for the community, keep it at that and don’t change anything to “level up”! Success is not a justification for doing bad business. If it ain’t broke, then don’t fix it! It’s that simple! If you sell a bad product, word will get out and you will actually lose money. So there you go!
I'm glad you made this video, thank you!❤
of course
Hello from London U.K. I bought the Rosemary Mint conditioner from them and the hair oil. I did used the oil only once and no problems. In fact it felt nice on my scalp. But I decided to continue to use my homemade hair oil ( glad I did). But for some reason I didn’t use the conditioner. I just left it on the bathroom counter. My intuition was telling me don’t use it. So when I started seeing the videos on Mielle products the balding the breakage the scalp irritation. I decided to throw away the conditioner and oil. I am NOT going to chance it. And besides my homemade hair oil etc is doing my hair so good.
Excellent video recapping the events. I have been following them and have been following natural hair you tubers on hair care because I transitioned to that in January 2024. I purchased the rosemary oil only and was hesitant to try anything else because of the comments. I used the rosemary oil and then purchased a second bottle. About 3 months ago I got a light spot near my side burn and stopped using the oil.
I started taking vitamins (Dr. Berg hair vitamins) and it’s been about a month. I have not seen any improvement (new hair growth) but the area is not getting bigger. I can’t confirm it’s the Mielle rosemary oil but I certainly have seen a difference.
As for oil, I just created my own concoction and began using that in my scalp but not applying it in the area where it’s balding. I want to give that area a break for a few weeks and am hoping it heals and I have hair grow there.
Good morning, thank you. And thank you for sharing your experience.
I tried the Rosemary collection and it dried my hair out as I outlined in the video. I also tried the Rosemary oil, we are not friends lol. For the oil, I did read the ingredients and it does contain sweet almond oil, we do not get along either lol.
@@KlassicallyKept i wish i had seen your video before I bought this line. My hair was matted mess after using the masque😭 It was dry and rough like sandpaper. I am experiencing breakage in the front and crown but I didn't think it was the products. The front of my hair has become so stringy that almost everytime I wash my hair I have to be clipping it. 😣
@@KlassicallyKept I'm new to your Channel, and this was the video I was looking for. .A Thorough deep dive into what's really going on with this brand.. You presented the info /testimonials and specifics on this unsettling situation. I had to re trace my steps to see if I had used Rosemary and mint.. Never used the oil but I did use the mask a couple of years ago. My hair came out in 2021 after having Covid. I also used the Pomegranate & honey leave in but never notice or attributed it to my hair shed.. My hair grew back from using Ayurvedic herbs..Amla & Fenugreek .I will not be purchasing any more Mielle products...This was an eye opening and thought provoking video ...Well put together!! You embody your RUclips name!!!! Subscribed!!!!
Girl I am one of those women caught with her pants down and buckets of hair falling out. My aunt bought me the mielle rosemary line for my birthday so I thought I’ll use it all up then move on. My hair became sooo tangled and started falling out left and right!! But thanks to you and your recommendation of the Dara naturals hair grease my hair is back baby!! Thank you so much I am beyond grateful to you!! 🙌🏾🎉
Here is a “pro tip” on product instructions. If a product says use a dime size amount start with that. If it isn’t enough for your whole head split your hair in half and use a dime size amount on each half. Basically break your hair down into sections until a dime sized amount is enough. Sometimes you need that small amount because a larger amount won’t spread well. I have enough hair for 4 people so that is how I use product.
Unpopular opinion, but Mielle Organics founder Monique & her husband harassed & disrespected Linda Lynn (a black woman RUclipsr) when she said she didn't like her products 4 years ago. It was the rice water collection. I NEVER bought any of Mielles products because of that. It was so unprofessional, childish, & a prime example of misogynoir. It's unfortunate that a lot of women are losing their hair, but that's black women's problem. Why shop with someone who disrespected women who look like you? We are the only race of women who do that. You can disrespect us & still have our money. Sorry but not me! I knew she was trash when she did that, so it's no surprise at what's happening now. So it's very hard for me to feel bad for the women who lost their hair because based on how the owner acted 4 years ago, this is the only way it could've ended. How people treat their customers & people who patronize their business tells you a lot. If you didn't know about the drama then you either live under a rock, or knew but just didn't care (it works for me so idc) & now look. So let's do better by ourselves & by each other. There were so many black women who defended Linda back then & God rewarded them. I think black women need to have discernment, be a little bit more conscious of where our money goes & not be so excited to see a black-owned or black-woman owned business bc all skinfolk ain't kinfolk & all black women aren't sisters they are just mammies
I hate our people are going through this! 👀🤦🏾♀️
Y’all, please respect y’all selves and find other black products that will work for you.🤷🏾♀️
I am not one to jump on influencer band wagons when it comes to my hair.
Back when I was a loose natural around 2008ish, I remember natural hair influencers hyping up coconut oil and Cantù products.
I tried it for about a week and my hair did NOTHING! The products did NOT work for my textured hair.👀
So I kept it pushing and moving.
What worked for me was Aunt Jackie’s products. I used those right up until I loc’d up my hair starting in 2018.
Please listen to your hair and know for yourself what will work for it and you.
The loc community pushes or was pushing rose oil. I tried it and I HATE the smell of it, so I don’t buy it.
I am not going to keep buying something that does not work for me just because it works for the other people.
Peppermint oil, love it.
Lavender oil, love it.
Lemongrass oil, love it.
Coconut oil, love the smell but my hair and body don’t love it.
Rose oil, hate it. The smell is too strong for me.
Anyway, I pray healthy hair, healthy scalp health, and healing to all my people.
Peace, blessings, and many prayers.😔😔😔🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
The video was very informative and thank you for putting this information out there.❤❤
Thank you. I enjoyed the research.
I am currently using Healthy Hair Studio By Enitan products who is a Trichologist in London. I love all of her products. Found them by watching Fumi Desalu Vold. The products are made in England and they are very stringent on what can be used in products.
The EU has some of the strictest guidelines on personal care products in the world. I think it is a good rule of thumb to check to see you personal care products follow these guidelines with their ingredients.
I will definitely look this up ! Thank you for this
I use Enitan also. Love it. New purchased arrived with her new shampoo which I will try today. A friend gave me Mielle Rosemary oil for my thinning top which got worse with its use and noticed a coarseness to my hair.
Oh my God. I have been using her shampoo & conditioner since it’s been in Sally’s beauty. I already have CCCA but it was under control. I was doing so good until early 2023. I had to go back to my dermatologist this year to get my treatments again. My hair do feels different after my shampoo & conditioning. I’m throwing my products in the trash! I’m mad!!!
There's one control in this entire scenario. Them trying to blame variables in application to this huge pool is obnoxious. Allergic reactions, misuse!? On all these varying people, around the same span of time, with one brand involved? The gaslighting is wildly disrespectful.
Gonna just add that your hair looks absolutely beautiful… first video I’ve seen of yours (subscribed) and I’ve also NEVER colored my hair and I’m in my 30s now…. staying natural paid off big time
Thank you! Welcome to the community.
Ok. No more Mielle for me. I did notice a bit more shedding going on. And I purchased quite a bit of product during one of their sales. Now I have a bunch I more than likely will throw out. And my bottle of Rosemary oil fell and the bottle cracked and the top part of the bottle broke off. That must have been a sign not to use it. I think I used some once from the bottle. Also, I recall people complaining about some of the products some years back about adverse results during product reviews and reports of her and her husband snapping back at people who gave reviews they didn’t like and I recall their being quite a few now that I think about it. So perhaps some of the formulas were off a bit from then.
I’m going through that right now. Hair still falling out in clumps . Have stopped using the product and just waiting on it to get out of my system.
I am sorry this happened to you.
I hope you are able to recover.
Thanks for the video, I was going to stop using, but after listening to Miellle, I believe her and I think her statement definitely helped a lot. Thanks for sharing.
Of course!
completely understand. This video was not meant to demean or disparage, just simply to talk about what is going on.
In my humble opinion trends seldom hold up to the scrutiny. If you have a product that works for you don’t totally abandon it for the newest thing. And I will advise anyone to slowly add new products so in case you have an issue then you will know exactly what is causing the issue. ❤
39:49 Hi dear your first numbers following your instinct/head calculations were accurate because when you updated the last 5% to a 10% the total was 110% I adore content creators like you who are thorough and provide clear examples, explanations and are willing to be corrected if needed. I know this means nothing taking into account the accuracy of the vídeo but I just wanted to let you know. Again, Thank you dear for your outstanding job. ❤
To become a global brand you have cut corners some corporations put products over people. I don't know about the claims i know how these business work.
Not to mention I can't see her selling her products to latin America or Africa, the main black communities outside the US. So who is she really targeting when she says global 🤔
Use food in your hair, olive oil, coconut oil, avocado oil, etc. These will not hurt your hair. Wear your hair natural and use natural products.
I wouldn’t use coconut oil on my hair it’s very drying
I’m going back to BLUE MAGIC, the grease I used back in the 80’s
Im soooo glad i avoided this brand. I tried it ONCE, their leave-in dried out my strands and their rosemary oil did nothing.
Edit: i was also hella turned off by their commercials for some reason😂😂😂😂😂
It’s a strengthening line, it shouldn’t be used all the time. It will dry your hair out and break it off. No strengthening product should be use all the time. We need to start doing our research before just putting products in our hair.
maybe the new manufacturers spike the blend ...I used to use the rosemary oil and I never went bald...maybe someone is trying to sabotage her
I remember using cantu before the acquisition. It did wonders for my hair, but once it got acquired my hair became dry and brittle. I immediately stopped.
I switched to hair products called Afro hair candy. My hair thrived and it grew down to my back.
I’m not here to bash mielle but once these black owned company get acquired that’s it! The ingredients will change .
It’s important to do diligence to research the ingredients and where the company is from
First I have to say you did an amazing job on this video 👏🏾. Next let's get the emotions out of the way I've always had a sensitive scalp so I never know what's going to cause it to react to things. So it was hard hearing these women's including your issues with the products. The balding and shedding leading to tears, anger and frustration was horrible I wanted to hug them. With you I know you know your hair well so you luckily stopped before it got worse but what if you were using a new gel or cream and thought it was that? It would have been weeks more of trying to figure it out and I think that's what the company isn't getting. Everyone's hair and body is so different so it's your job as the company to test more after an acquisition since you have new scientific eyes on your product. Not ignore the cases of the allergic reactions or other issues. It's so disappointing that they didn't see this as an opportunity to fix what's wrong. Yeah the balding and shedding is horrible and you don't want to own it but your dry hair deserved better as well. Stop expecting our support if you aren't going to be meticulous about taking care of our hair. Thanks for this video 🤎
Good morning and thank you. I enjoyed the research.
I think you have made a great point.
You may have young lady who is starting her natural journey and is a using a product but she is not sure what to look out for.
You may have another young lady who is using the products but her reaction to the product doesn't show up for some time.
I think you make a great point about support.
I do not think people have an actual issue the aquisition itself, its what follows that people have an issue with. We have seen time and time again when a hair care company is acquired things begin to change.
Thank you❤
I bought entire line and my hair started falling out and shedding was X9 and left my hair dry needing excess moisture it never required ! I am still recovering my hair and went back to good ol faithful cantu !
I see everyone is doing a video on this topic now. I haven't thought about doing a video on that. I'd never use these products and I feel so bad for the women that did use these products. I don't jump on the bandwagon whenever someone brings something out, whatever I have in my hair regiment that works. I don't care if it's been out for 30 years. I'm gonna keep it until they've just stopped making it..
I hope to pray these teachers.Everyone else and don't get on a bandwagon with everybody.If you have products that work in your hair like a teacher on my channel keep using them don't differ❤❤
I thought I was losing my mind (along with my hair 😅) when I started to notice. I usually oil my hair early in the day before I wash it. I’ve used the oil sporadically but this month I used it almost exclusively on my hair and… no words. ☹️
Another Receipt of why I don't use chemicals on my 4C Coils. The BC will team 👆🏿 with brad, becky, anyone to make a profit. 👍🏾
I stay far away from modern, Natural beauty products because there's really nothing *Natural* about it.
Thanks for sharing.... 💕
yes ma'am!! Ding ding ding!
She sold her company to that white company and they changed the formula. A company that knows Nothing about black women's hair.