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Just noticed you started your channel on 12/12/12. I'm sure that wasn't by chance. Thank you for being you. Your dad must be proud of you and your sister! I hope you keep making videos for a long time, one of the best underrated youtubers.
@@niazi12121 there's a really small subset of humans that is insane enough to kill for fun. I'm fairly sure the vast majority of people mostly just want to be left alone 😅
In a place with plenty of resources for all and nothing to fight over human beings still find a reason to fight. It’s like we are all masochists at heart.
@@purvel launching a conflict is far different from defending yourself against one, and the nuances shouldn't be ignored just because you watched a 10 minute youtube video.
@@user-hl7nt1og7k It's a light tank from the early 30's, the American equivalent would be an M2. Ultimately it's close in design to the even older Renault FT. All this to say that it might not have performed well in the Pacific theater, but it was never some wunderwaffe and also already outdated in general
Yeah, to say it's a bad tank is wrong, actually. It was a perfectly decent tank, just well outclassed by the end of the war, shouldn't have been used so late. @@oivinf
Humans mere seconds after arriving in a new location: "What if we all started doing the most insane thing ever that no other human outside of our culture will understand?"
I just wanted to express my gratitude, as a Chuukese born, American raised dude. Your content on my people and history is UNMATCHED online. Thank you for ‘putting my people on the map’ so to speak.
This is a lot like birds of paradaise, when in absence of struggle or predators the males evolve into status traits that actively worsen their chances of survival
@@nilstwestergaup3165Just look at them. Super long feathers that make it hard to fly, extremely eye-catching colors and patterns that make it impossible to hide. Probably more, Im not a biologist.
Right, they change. But that doesn't lower their chances of survival. If that were true, those changes wouldn't persist. If they grow long feathers, it's precisely because they *don't* need to fly to survive. You're comparing them to birds that *do* have predators, which is silly.
@almightysapling It's called the handicap principle. Certain animals evolve a trait that gives them a disadvantage (like apeakcocks's train) because it acts as an honest signal of fitness. Basically, if a peacock can survive despite such a big handicap, then a peahen will be more likely to mate with them to boost their offsprings fitness (chance of passing on their genes). But the selection can go too far to the point where it does harm the male's long term survival. Rhinos are an example. Long horns are selected for, but it puts the adult males at greeater risk of poaching. You see examples in species with antlers where the males will die because their antlers get stuck in trees or begin ingrowing into their skull. The point of these traits is *only* to boost the chance of reproduction. Evolution doesnt care how long the animal lives after they pass on their genes, which is how they end up with detrimental traits that make long term survival a challenge. As long as the male lives long enough to have one offspring, it doesnt matter if their dimorphic trait results in them dying the next day. (Sorry for the essay, i dont get many chances to use my zooloogy degree lol).
"There are a lot of reasons we go to war. Money. Power. Glory. Fame. But sometimes, I think all we are really trying to is just show each other who can take the most shit." It's WWI all over again.
what if you just, yknow, pooped before the battle??? seems a little extreme to poison yourself with raw meat and risk death even if you survive the battle. Humans are so bizarre....
Even if you poop before battle, there is still loads of feces farther back in you. You would actually be shocked to know the weight in feces remaining in your body, even after a massive poop. When you die, the smooth muscles of your rectum and small intestines, which are helping to not only move the feces along, but holding them mostly where they're at so that everything doesn't fall out of you all at once, cease to function. This is why almost everyone, short of people who died from prolonged starvation, always defecate when they die.
"The population has never truly outstripped this land's fertility" I'm sure with all the guys having only one testicle, overbreeding was never much of a concern.
When you lose a testicle, the remaining testicle increases production of sperm/testosterone to compensate. Your testicles are capable of producing several times the normal amount of testosterone and sperm, but they self-limit themselves based on how much you need.
The thing I remember about Pohnpei is that they have a pretty divergent language being from the larger Austronesian language family - I'd say that only Palauan is much more divergent.
One of the things I love about this channel is your ability to contextualize in a few minutes cultural practices that seem *utterly* alien at first glance. If someone had bet me that in a little less than 9 minutes they could make me understand why a culture would go to war to secure human shit, I would have taken that bet. And I would have lost.
@@v1x4570 Thats only if you believe peace is the absence of force. Like all social infrastructure, you have to fight to maintain peace. Total pacifism is a lie sold to the gullible. You can avoid starting fights, but when they begin you have to be willing to end them one way or another, or take measures to prevent them, regardless of whether you started them or not. Otherwise the conflict will consume you and everything you ever cared for.
@@LancesArmorStriking Mantises in general don't eat their mates. It is a stress from being observed in non-natural habitat by researches triggered this behaviour.
@@user-nw8pp1cy8q Then I can pull another example like it's expecting dolphins to not murder fish for fun- or like expecting crows not to pick up gerbils and drop them from heights. Animals are animals, and no amount of intelligence will make them less violent in the span of 10,000 years. In fact it seems the more intelligent an animal is, the more likely it is to be sadistically violent.
@@democratictotalitariansoci1462 While the draft may be the real reason, I assure you the shallow social dynamics and status play is still at stake for those that get swept up in it.
@@dopaminecloud I was drafted during war in my country two decades ago, while neither our president nor his son even cared to wear uniforms. yet today there are people who call that former president ''A hero'', dead soldiers are forgotten
"somewhere distant peacefully our vulgar princes sleep, dead kids don't get photographed god bless our dead marines" - A Silver Mt Zion "God Bless our Dead Marines" (one of my favourite songs)
Of all the tests and initiations to manhood that I've ever heard. This one takes it by far and beyond. Getting One of your nuts sliced off is brutal, I wonder who was the first guy to suggest that
Stuff like this really makes me wonder what the average lifespan was for these people, even if they survived warfare. Routinely eating festering raw rat meat can't be good for the digestion.
I think this has something to do with living in an easy environment, which is why you often find these bizarre rituals in the tropics. When you environment is abundant and provides every necessity without much effort, humans tend to go a little crazy trying to artificially create struggle for themselves. There are similar things, though they tend to manifest as psychological more often than physical, among the upper middle class in America. Bret Weinstein was just singing the praises of polar plunges for a very similar reason. Conversely, in temperate areas with heavy seasonality, the people’s cultural focus is on frugality, stoicism, hard work, preparation for winter, dedication to thriving etc. as there is really struggle to survive woven into everyday life, no need to create artificial struggle. Wars are usually over land as land is the only way to secure your family’s continued existence.
Why don't people in paradises just focus on entertainment if they'r so bored instead of killing each other or creating other unnecessary problems for themselves?
@follet5347 That is indeed a very good question. If the answer is not clear to you, then you have a lot to learn about the broad varieties of human natures. We see the same thing around us every day; people living the richest, wealthiest, easiest and most comfortable lives. They spend their days picking fights with strangers over nothing.
@@jonathanfontaine2325 honestly if rich people want some kind of challenge and purposes for they'r lives then they should just dedicate it to helping people and improving the lives of the common folk by funding things that would be useful to they'r country like public healthcare and education and stuff
@@jonathanfontaine2325 I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to spend money on themselves and injoy it I'm just simply saying that if most rich people on top wanted some kind of purpose in life then it would sure be great if they dedicate it to helping people
During WWI soldiers returning from leave headed back to the front spoke of the trench smell. Shit smells mingling with corpse stench. Dead horses, millions of dead soldiers, billions of diseased rats. Uncounted shell craters filled stagnant greet water mixed with mustard gas, toxic chemicals and moldering men. A very smelly place indeed.
Remember Game of Thrones, season 7, episode 4? Bronn asks Dickon Tarly how he experienced his first battle. Dickon says it was glorious (or something along those lines). Bronn says it wasn't because men shit themselves in battle.
I genuinely love how this episode was written, awesome puns. And as usual great unknown topics. Your channel is a gem. Saying hi to to Kata from a fellow Hungarian: Remek amit csináltok, csak így tovább.
First of all; thank you for all the great work and videos. I fully understand how wonderful and amusing storytelling goes and you do a great job at it. Also, if that means bringing in bits and pieces from all over the area to make it more interesting and to add some context. You’re showing a beautiful, less known piece of the world. So, I do not mean this in a pedantic way. But, the thumbnail to highlight the video shows Kiribati warriors, who are on the far end of Micronesia and have very little to do with this story. Then why do I need to bring this up? Well… the Kiribati suits, weapons, way of fighting and navigation skills make for an amazing story of themselves. Which could be some great content for the future and is worth looking into! ;) All the love.
It's the closest we could come visually, but I completely agree and would absolutely love to go to Kiribati for a season. It's just an issue of costs, flights, and time. Thanks for the comment!
the losing a testicle bit was worse than the rest of the video. after you go through that, nothing you go through in a battle could be worse than what you've already done to yourself
This video really reminds me of the now long-gone, forsaken old practice we Dayaks on Borneo used to engage in. It was a means to prove one's worth to marry a noble bride or demonstrate one's might, aiming to become a noteworthy legend. Headhunting activity was one of the requirements, especially if the victims were from tribes or people living in faraway places; it was as valuable as seashells to those deep inside the jungle interior. In turn, these needless bloodshed would ignite constant, unending tribal warfare. Yet, in some odd way, nobody tried to contemplate why it persisted until the arrival of the missionaries. Then this video comes in and gives me the idea that perhaps my ancestors were just trying to find meaning in life and accomplish something noteworthy, all while fulfilling their thirst for vengeance or bloodlust, thus making it part of tradition. This continued until our tribe gradually converted to the new Abrahamic faiths.
I know as anthropologists, the discipline kept trying to teach that we had to be unbiased in our ethnography because our worldview comes from an upbringing separate from the observed group's.... But I always said fuck that. Minimal observer bias is really important when REPORTING on a culture, but empathy for others should always be your moral compass and guide through the lens of humanities, and I find it correct to call out fundamental violations of that when being candid or in service of human rights. I find war to always be a violation of that and should always be held against all people.
Cultural relativism is necessary while studying other cultures in anthropology, but it shouldn't be that you relinquish your own values when it comes to living life and holding opinions as a member of your own society. It has been many years since I studied a few subjects on it back at university, but I've heard that the anthropology departments have been taken over by the sociologists. Certainly I have seen some stuff coming out from the field where they seem to practice more cultural advocacy over relativism and they will happily distort, remove and or reinterpret facts to push narratives over truth. Actually thinking about it, that seems to also be the case for a lot of other disciplines too nowadays!
@@CountingStars333 I don't support the USA partaking in war and I likewise don't support groups in the US benefiting from war. I don't understand what you're trying to strawman me as, someone who is anti war but pro gun? Or because I was adopted by US citizens and grew up in the US, I must be a war profiteer and thus cannot comment in good faith about what I think is a transgression against human rights?
Social mores, especially those dealing with violence, are always deeply fascinating. Often times people like to find ways of othereing and alienating other people based on culture and customs that look and feel very foreign and strange to their sensibilities, where if you just take a few steps further into trying to think and understand those customs they all shake out to be, at their core, very human and understandable; I feel like Evan does a great job in showing that. After all, much as some of us don't want to admit it, if something is universally funny at a base level, why wouldn't it become important somewhere, for some reason?
So... does it mean that humans NEED to have somethign to pour their aggression into? If the world is prosperous, we turn violent because there's nowhere to pour the aggression. If life is hard, then we work better together?
North American Indians invented Lacrosse because they did not want to keep losing young men in battle...The same is true for Mayans or Incas who played ther latl latl game, and even the Olympic games were created so citystates could show off their prowess without resorting to killing each other...Boxing, ice hockey, there is a large number of ways to take out your aggression without resorting to killing...We STILL have to face the problem of overpopulation, tho.
I had an really bad asthma attack once I was just at the point of going unconscious and as everything was fading in I shit my pants and at that moment an ambulance arrived and gave me oxygen. The moment I was conscious again I screamed I shit my pants it was that present in my mind.
I feel like there has to be something I'm missing since fighting skill and status don't always go together, a group could break all the social norms to gain a tactical edge and conquer all their neighbors if the battles are the way they are described here and there wasn't anything else to the story. It doesn't matter if what you did is taboo if all the abled bodied men capable of enforcing rules are either dead or joined your plot.
So reducing two nuts down to one cuts down the recovery time to half when getting kicked in the groin by the enemy...get back to fightin' quicker!!!😆😜 Definite Advantage!!!😂
I was wondering why this island's name sounded so freaking familiar until I read that this is also home to the famous Nan Madol complex which is just off the eastern shore of Pohnpei (or Ponape, as it used to be named) This was part of the fabled lost continent of Lemuria (or Mu, as it is sometimes referred to.) So this island has a more interesting than being home to a group of warriors with strange fecal and alimentary proclivities. Still, it adds yet another layer to their unusual history.
Lemuria and Mu are inventions popularized by a Russian con-woman who believed ancient, telekinetic pure-race magicians spawned the world. Her belief system would later be repurposed by the Nazis, and is completely misunderstood by virtually all of its proponents today. So yeah, kind of interesting. But Nan Madol has little to do with that beyond modern attempts to repackage her beliefs for a new generation.
We still play those games with each other just not as explicitly... I can think of several times during the course of my life where I endured pain, even inflicted pain on myself intentionally just to spite someone whose M.O. was domination through the infliction of suffering. The idea is that if you can take the pain willingly, even happily (takes a lot of practice and is ultimately very damaging but I think it's our instinct to do these things) then it challenges the power of the ones inflicting it and eggs them on to really bring it. AKA go hard or go home, give me all you got, this is a good way to test whether someone is actually willing to go all in for that victory over you. I see it as they should have to earn it. And if they go as far as committing a grievous enough injury/murder then they end up losing status anyway, and alerting others to the fact that they're bad business/lack discipline. Some may see this as provoking someone unfairly but what they fail to realize is that they assume they have a right to act in ways that are condescending to others and if the others don't fight back then they deserve it so anyone with that mentality better be ready to get continually challenged and "provoked" And even the part about ultimately making peace with them and becoming "friends" at least sometimes... not all the time, holds true as long as humility and mutual respect is established. But if not, an enemy is just an enemy.
I want to support your channel by hitting that "like" button, but sometimes it's hard to "like" stories like this. I may not enjoy it, but I know your stories are teaching tools so I grit my teeth and listen.
there at the beginning you almost listed off the five things that make the world go around, in no particular order, but as they were given to me 1. Money 2. Power 3. Fear 4. Sex 5. Hope
Imagine being stuck in a tribal culture where the only thing everyone (including the slaves) strived for was to murder, humiliate or stick it to someone weaker. If I grew up there I would steal a boat and sail off in search of some distant land that had no people. Living out my days cold, hungry and alone would be a massive upgrade over tribal culture.
This is how THIS particular group of humans coped with their situation. It doesn't mean any (isolated) group would socially develop this was by default. Circumstances are always different and different circumstances will always lead to different outcomes.
@@Kap3lka It does, however, mean that abundance is not the solution to human violence….unless you think there is something about these particular humans that makes them different from other humans? And if so, how could you be sure the same thing doesn’t exist in other humans societies where people are confident that abundance will eliminate violence? Myself, I think that cultural absolutely matters, but human nature is to some extent universal to the species. In every society some people will always crave for violence, no matter how much abundance they have. Others, in those same societies, will never resort to violence, no matter how deprived they are. Perhaps in larger societies this is a matter of subculture or individual socialization or genetics, but that web is quite a tangle and unless utopians want to untangle it BEFORE bringing about their Utopia, they will fail because they are refusing to account for human nature.
Lol, "grit ur teeth and bear it" is the absolute worst way to handle pain. It results in a perceptible increase in pain. If a tree falls in the forest or anywhere else for that matter where no one is around, does it make a sound? According to pain, "No."
The Architect was rught, given every need satisfied, humankind will not be content and will invent strife from minor differences in order to have conflict via tradition.
Pohnpeians nowadays think it’s tabu to talk about how they used to live before the coming of the “good news” a lot will say it’s not true even though our oral histories say otherwise
this a bunch of lies. Tattoo true but reason for war to acquire shit is false more like pohnapeans warring each other for land resources yeah. There's a mountain thats called pusehn Malak meaning chicken poo there's a story behind it but that's the only thing that ever close to mention of poo other than that wtf they gonna do with the poo anyway for trophy? 😂 this some make up shit! Pohnapeans are known for Sakau=kava is even on the flag not warring for poo 🤦♂️
The picture you used im pretty sure those are Kiribati warriors, still in the realm of Micronesia and I know it’s hard to get out there but I feel like you would love Nauru and Kiribati as well, some of their stories are intertwined
Absolutely I'd love to go to both. Nauru doesn't allow my type of filming without paying an unreasonable fee and I unfortunately didn't have enough time and logistical capacity for Kiribati this time around. But I'd love to go!
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Just noticed you started your channel on 12/12/12. I'm sure that wasn't by chance. Thank you for being you. Your dad must be proud of you and your sister! I hope you keep making videos for a long time, one of the best underrated youtubers.
I'm just here to say that Rare Earth was a great band.
This is indeed Rare earth. Evan & Kata, thankyou.
This is one of the best reminders that humans are FUCKING INSANE and none of the stupid things we do and say should surprise us
Speak for yourself 😶
Ah yes, human beings in general are insane because brown people still live in premodern times.
I will go on the record and say I possess both testicles and have never conducted midnight stool raids.
@@SyntheticFutureHe is got a point you now...
@@niazi12121 there's a really small subset of humans that is insane enough to kill for fun. I'm fairly sure the vast majority of people mostly just want to be left alone 😅
I mean, collecting the skulls of fallen enemies seems like a more obvious, less disgusting, display of power of your foe. But I'm no expert.
Shitting urself is more humiliating than just being killed
They coulda taken that one remaining ball?
People in isolation for long periods of time can develop strange habits over that time.
Silly Khorne follower
Nurlgle knows the best way to Immortality
@@Lockflynot really. Unless you're oddly insecure.
"taking no shit from nobody" was actually a disgrace in that island
It's was a "imma take all your shit" situation instead 😅
Sounds like a fun time living with such unnecessary worries
hearing evan talk about a ballsack scabbing over was the last thing i expected from this video
Better than if it never scabs though
@@RareEarthSeries Then the other one falls out
I bet rates of testicular cancer were lower than usual on Pohn Pei
Do they pick which one? I kinda get it… I only need one ball to reproduce but still… yall going to far…
@@thelukesternater
Seems too asymmetrical to me.
It would wreak havoc on somebody with OCD.
In a place with plenty of resources for all and nothing to fight over human beings still find a reason to fight. It’s like we are all masochists at heart.
Sadists*, few people are asking to be on the receiving end of war.
@@hungrymusicwolf Didn't watch the video, huh?
@@purvel launching a conflict is far different from defending yourself against one, and the nuances shouldn't be ignored just because you watched a 10 minute youtube video.
@@mars7304Thank you. Its always nice to see someone who doesn't go for the dunk on others but talks nuance.
And people think that the fact that I am an anti-natalist is something bad, unwarranted and "goes too far" 🤦
3:12 Those are japanese Type 95 Ha-Go light tanks, if anyone was curious.
That tank name means poop in my language.. no kidding.. 😂
@@mandarhalbe9077 The95 Ha-Go was a stinking pile of crap, so that makes sense.
@@user-hl7nt1og7k It's a light tank from the early 30's, the American equivalent would be an M2. Ultimately it's close in design to the even older Renault FT. All this to say that it might not have performed well in the Pacific theater, but it was never some wunderwaffe and also already outdated in general
Yeah, to say it's a bad tank is wrong, actually. It was a perfectly decent tank, just well outclassed by the end of the war, shouldn't have been used so late. @@oivinf
Could you figure out the manufacturing plant and the name of the worker who bolted the third screw from left to right?
Humans mere seconds after arriving in a new location: "What if we all started doing the most insane thing ever that no other human outside of our culture will understand?"
Then thousands of years later they start trying to force other cultures to do it. Like with circumcision.
Hey what's that guy doing it looks like it hurts,😮.... 😎👍,"COOL".
At least most of them don't start attempting to spread that thing to all the other cultures... unlike with c*rcumcision
Women live pain, so the men have to invent tattoos, ball slicing, and poop wars in order to maintain their sense of worth and superiority.
Sounds fun count me in
I just wanted to express my gratitude, as a Chuukese born, American raised dude. Your content on my people and history is UNMATCHED online. Thank you for ‘putting my people on the map’ so to speak.
If you dont mind elaborating, where is this to start with?
@@ryneagheilim9782 just abit above Papua New Guinea, West Pacific!
do you take shit from people 😂 , , i joke i joke 😅
I'm not sure that is anything to be proud of.
Pwipwi
This is a lot like birds of paradaise, when in absence of struggle or predators the males evolve into status traits that actively worsen their chances of survival
maybe it minimizes the effects of overpopulation by becoming deliberately worse at survival lol
How?
@@nilstwestergaup3165Just look at them. Super long feathers that make it hard to fly, extremely eye-catching colors and patterns that make it impossible to hide. Probably more, Im not a biologist.
Right, they change. But that doesn't lower their chances of survival. If that were true, those changes wouldn't persist.
If they grow long feathers, it's precisely because they *don't* need to fly to survive. You're comparing them to birds that *do* have predators, which is silly.
@almightysapling It's called the handicap principle. Certain animals evolve a trait that gives them a disadvantage (like apeakcocks's train) because it acts as an honest signal of fitness. Basically, if a peacock can survive despite such a big handicap, then a peahen will be more likely to mate with them to boost their offsprings fitness (chance of passing on their genes).
But the selection can go too far to the point where it does harm the male's long term survival. Rhinos are an example. Long horns are selected for, but it puts the adult males at greeater risk of poaching. You see examples in species with antlers where the males will die because their antlers get stuck in trees or begin ingrowing into their skull.
The point of these traits is *only* to boost the chance of reproduction. Evolution doesnt care how long the animal lives after they pass on their genes, which is how they end up with detrimental traits that make long term survival a challenge. As long as the male lives long enough to have one offspring, it doesnt matter if their dimorphic trait results in them dying the next day.
(Sorry for the essay, i dont get many chances to use my zooloogy degree lol).
The penultimate example that people would choose to inflict pain on themselves rather than embrace boredom.
"Penultimate" means second to last. So what is the last example?
@@elektro3000 Japanese latrine man
@@Spookspek fkin shite😂
wait til they embrace climate change
"There are a lot of reasons we go to war. Money. Power. Glory. Fame. But sometimes, I think all we are really trying to is just show each other who can take the most shit."
It's WWI all over again.
Current warriors like to teabag their enemies in battle.
Only if they’re of equal status.
Only in pubg mobile
If you know, you know
These guys would have to teabag even harder, having only the one ball and all.
@@king0vitrial double time!
what if you just, yknow, pooped before the battle??? seems a little extreme to poison yourself with raw meat and risk death even if you survive the battle. Humans are so bizarre....
Always smart to evacuate the bowels before battle
Yeah, that made me question whether all that is true.
Yeah or have an enema....
They may not have access to laxatives
Even if you poop before battle, there is still loads of feces farther back in you. You would actually be shocked to know the weight in feces remaining in your body, even after a massive poop. When you die, the smooth muscles of your rectum and small intestines, which are helping to not only move the feces along, but holding them mostly where they're at so that everything doesn't fall out of you all at once, cease to function. This is why almost everyone, short of people who died from prolonged starvation, always defecate when they die.
Goddammit, Evan. No. I don't mind when you make me cry over rocks, but I'm not crying for this.
"The population has never truly outstripped this land's fertility"
I'm sure with all the guys having only one testicle, overbreeding was never much of a concern.
Exactly! These bizarre customs saved them from overpopulation.
I don’t think it works like that…
When you lose a testicle, the remaining testicle increases production of sperm/testosterone to compensate. Your testicles are capable of producing several times the normal amount of testosterone and sperm, but they self-limit themselves based on how much you need.
@@weissfox5857 exactly. They come in pairs for redundancy, losing _both_ is a concern.
The thing I remember about Pohnpei is that they have a pretty divergent language being from the larger Austronesian language family - I'd say that only Palauan is much more divergent.
What is the Pohnpei word for poop?
@@djquinn11pwuse
@@djquinn11There is a dictionary for it online
Well....Now that's a thing I can't unlearn.
me: hmm what video should i watch now for dinner
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One of the things I love about this channel is your ability to contextualize in a few minutes cultural practices that seem *utterly* alien at first glance.
If someone had bet me that in a little less than 9 minutes they could make me understand why a culture would go to war to secure human shit, I would have taken that bet. And I would have lost.
Interresting to know that even in good conditions violence still a part of human culture.
Kinda makes you lose hope that we will ever see world peace
@@v1x4570
It's like expecting praying mantises not to eat their mates. It's beyond what we can do. We are still animals after all
@@v1x4570 Thats only if you believe peace is the absence of force. Like all social infrastructure, you have to fight to maintain peace. Total pacifism is a lie sold to the gullible. You can avoid starting fights, but when they begin you have to be willing to end them one way or another, or take measures to prevent them, regardless of whether you started them or not. Otherwise the conflict will consume you and everything you ever cared for.
@@LancesArmorStriking Mantises in general don't eat their mates. It is a stress from being observed in non-natural habitat by researches triggered this behaviour.
@@user-nw8pp1cy8q
Then I can pull another example like it's expecting dolphins to not murder fish for fun- or like expecting crows not to pick up gerbils and drop them from heights.
Animals are animals, and no amount of intelligence will make them less violent in the span of 10,000 years. In fact it seems the more intelligent an animal is, the more likely it is to be sadistically violent.
"It was a traditional ritual that was meant to show respect, but also disrespect."
That's... the most "human" thing ever
Wow, war is shit.
On the contrary, I submit this is the ONLY valid reason to go to war.
"You said the peanuts in you're sh!t are bigger than miiiine!!? LET ME SEE!!" Lmao, too much.
Salute
@@democratictotalitariansoci1462 While the draft may be the real reason, I assure you the shallow social dynamics and status play is still at stake for those that get swept up in it.
@@dopaminecloud I was drafted during war in my country two decades ago, while neither our president nor his son even cared to wear uniforms.
yet today there are people who call that former president ''A hero'', dead soldiers are forgotten
"somewhere distant peacefully our vulgar princes sleep, dead kids don't get photographed god bless our dead marines"
- A Silver Mt Zion "God Bless our Dead Marines" (one of my favourite songs)
well.. that was completely fu ... messed up, who am I to say though. Thanks for the craziest weekend opener I've seen or heard of in years.
Of all the tests and initiations to manhood that I've ever heard. This one takes it by far and beyond. Getting One of your nuts sliced off is brutal, I wonder who was the first guy to suggest that
Probably a guy born missing a teste haha
Ha😂 you beat me to it!!@@triumph.over.shipwreck
Humans, the one species to purposely make themselves sick so that their opponents do not get their poo.
Stuff like this really makes me wonder what the average lifespan was for these people, even if they survived warfare.
Routinely eating festering raw rat meat can't be good for the digestion.
I think this has something to do with living in an easy environment, which is why you often find these bizarre rituals in the tropics. When you environment is abundant and provides every necessity without much effort, humans tend to go a little crazy trying to artificially create struggle for themselves. There are similar things, though they tend to manifest as psychological more often than physical, among the upper middle class in America. Bret Weinstein was just singing the praises of polar plunges for a very similar reason.
Conversely, in temperate areas with heavy seasonality, the people’s cultural focus is on frugality, stoicism, hard work, preparation for winter, dedication to thriving etc. as there is really struggle to survive woven into everyday life, no need to create artificial struggle. Wars are usually over land as land is the only way to secure your family’s continued existence.
Why don't people in paradises just focus on entertainment if they'r so bored instead of killing each other or creating other unnecessary problems for themselves?
@follet5347 That is indeed a very good question. If the answer is not clear to you, then you have a lot to learn about the broad varieties of human natures. We see the same thing around us every day; people living the richest, wealthiest, easiest and most comfortable lives. They spend their days picking fights with strangers over nothing.
@@jonathanfontaine2325 honestly if rich people want some kind of challenge and purposes for they'r lives then they should just dedicate it to helping people and improving the lives of the common folk by funding things that would be useful to they'r country like public healthcare and education and stuff
@@elishafollet5347 Nice of you to tell others what to do with their time and money. Do you do it yourself too?
@@jonathanfontaine2325 I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to spend money on themselves and injoy it I'm just simply saying that if most rich people on top wanted some kind of purpose in life then it would sure be great if they dedicate it to helping people
Living there back then must have been a living nightmare
Yea, practices of one-upping and shaming opponents has often taken bizarre and unexpected shapes.
Wait i shouldn't eat the hearts of my victims???😮
I never said that
So, if soldiers shit themselves when killed in a battle, then a battlefield would be a very smelly place. Good to know
During WWI soldiers returning from leave headed back to the front spoke of the trench smell. Shit smells mingling with corpse stench. Dead horses, millions of dead soldiers, billions of diseased rats. Uncounted shell craters filled stagnant greet water mixed with mustard gas, toxic chemicals and moldering men. A very smelly place indeed.
@@revolutionaryhamburger that sounds like hell
@@greatexpectations6577 Hell on earth, the trenches mean death...
Remember Game of Thrones, season 7, episode 4? Bronn asks Dickon Tarly how he experienced his first battle. Dickon says it was glorious (or something along those lines). Bronn says it wasn't because men shit themselves in battle.
Guy sharpening the machete.
Professional respect.
I genuinely love how this episode was written, awesome puns. And as usual great unknown topics. Your channel is a gem. Saying hi to to Kata from a fellow Hungarian: Remek amit csináltok, csak így tovább.
First of all; thank you for all the great work and videos.
I fully understand how wonderful and amusing storytelling goes and you do a great job at it. Also, if that means bringing in bits and pieces from all over the area to make it more interesting and to add some context.
You’re showing a beautiful, less known piece of the world.
So, I do not mean this in a pedantic way. But, the thumbnail to highlight the video shows Kiribati warriors, who are on the far end of Micronesia and have very little to do with this story.
Then why do I need to bring this up?
Well… the Kiribati suits, weapons, way of fighting and navigation skills make for an amazing story of themselves. Which could be some great content for the future and is worth looking into! ;)
All the love.
It's the closest we could come visually, but I completely agree and would absolutely love to go to Kiribati for a season. It's just an issue of costs, flights, and time.
Thanks for the comment!
The literal definition of "holy shit"
Well, as one saying goes, 'life is like toilet paper, you're either on a roll, or taking shit from somebody'...
Millenia of boredom in a watery desert paradise, ...may cause seems-a-bit-much behavior.
the losing a testicle bit was worse than the rest of the video. after you go through that, nothing you go through in a battle could be worse than what you've already done to yourself
This video really reminds me of the now long-gone, forsaken old practice we Dayaks on Borneo used to engage in. It was a means to prove one's worth to marry a noble bride or demonstrate one's might, aiming to become a noteworthy legend.
Headhunting activity was one of the requirements, especially if the victims were from tribes or people living in faraway places; it was as valuable as seashells to those deep inside the jungle interior.
In turn, these needless bloodshed would ignite constant, unending tribal warfare. Yet, in some odd way, nobody tried to contemplate why it persisted until the arrival of the missionaries.
Then this video comes in and gives me the idea that perhaps my ancestors were just trying to find meaning in life and accomplish something noteworthy, all while fulfilling their thirst for vengeance or bloodlust, thus making it part of tradition. This continued until our tribe gradually converted to the new Abrahamic faiths.
Imagine if everyone fought like this
I know as anthropologists, the discipline kept trying to teach that we had to be unbiased in our ethnography because our worldview comes from an upbringing separate from the observed group's.... But I always said fuck that.
Minimal observer bias is really important when REPORTING on a culture, but empathy for others should always be your moral compass and guide through the lens of humanities, and I find it correct to call out fundamental violations of that when being candid or in service of human rights. I find war to always be a violation of that and should always be held against all people.
Cultural relativism is necessary while studying other cultures in anthropology, but it shouldn't be that you relinquish your own values when it comes to living life and holding opinions as a member of your own society.
It has been many years since I studied a few subjects on it back at university, but I've heard that the anthropology departments have been taken over by the sociologists. Certainly I have seen some stuff coming out from the field where they seem to practice more cultural advocacy over relativism and they will happily distort, remove and or reinterpret facts to push narratives over truth. Actually thinking about it, that seems to also be the case for a lot of other disciplines too nowadays!
Cultural relativism is a safeguard for stupid people. It isn't necessary if your values aren't derived from culture to begin with.
War bad?. Usa is the most warmongering state on earth. With the most guns per capita. What does that say about your culture.
Limited and measured cultural relativism
Or you will get idiots tolerating human sacrifice and child rape cause it's "cultural"
@@CountingStars333 I don't support the USA partaking in war and I likewise don't support groups in the US benefiting from war. I don't understand what you're trying to strawman me as, someone who is anti war but pro gun? Or because I was adopted by US citizens and grew up in the US, I must be a war profiteer and thus cannot comment in good faith about what I think is a transgression against human rights?
Social mores, especially those dealing with violence, are always deeply fascinating. Often times people like to find ways of othereing and alienating other people based on culture and customs that look and feel very foreign and strange to their sensibilities, where if you just take a few steps further into trying to think and understand those customs they all shake out to be, at their core, very human and understandable; I feel like Evan does a great job in showing that. After all, much as some of us don't want to admit it, if something is universally funny at a base level, why wouldn't it become important somewhere, for some reason?
So... does it mean that humans NEED to have somethign to pour their aggression into?
If the world is prosperous, we turn violent because there's nowhere to pour the aggression.
If life is hard, then we work better together?
North American Indians invented Lacrosse because they did not want to keep losing young men in battle...The same is true for Mayans or Incas who played ther latl latl game, and even the Olympic games were created so citystates could show off their prowess without resorting to killing each other...Boxing, ice hockey, there is a large number of ways to take out your aggression without resorting to killing...We STILL have to face the problem of overpopulation, tho.
People living in paradise torturing each other. That is so human.
I had an really bad asthma attack once I was just at the point of going unconscious and as everything was fading in I shit my pants and at that moment an ambulance arrived and gave me oxygen. The moment I was conscious again I screamed I shit my pants it was that present in my mind.
A truly illuminating episode. Thank you, Rare Earth!
Sometimes people just need a stupid reason to fight long-hold resentment.
It's like I always say, "no pain, no ...
... no, pain. Please no pain." Not surprisingly I am tattoo free.
pft, i bet you even have two testicles like a PUSSY
Me too, lol!
I feel like there has to be something I'm missing since fighting skill and status don't always go together, a group could break all the social norms to gain a tactical edge and conquer all their neighbors if the battles are the way they are described here and there wasn't anything else to the story. It doesn't matter if what you did is taboo if all the abled bodied men capable of enforcing rules are either dead or joined your plot.
So reducing two nuts down to one cuts down the recovery time to half when getting kicked in the groin by the enemy...get back to fightin' quicker!!!😆😜
Definite Advantage!!!😂
Always a pleasure to see one of my favourite youtubers talking shit.
Yay, second video in a row for Ponhpei! ❤
The fifth, even!
@@RareEarthSeriesOh wow! Pohnpei related? I’ll have to search. I’ve watched all of the Micronesia ones.
goddamn didnt know we have skill-based-matchmaking back in the days
Reducing your odds of winning to reduce the shame of losing is crazy
Now I understand Loathsome Dung Eater.
> Doesn't include picture of poop from the war
> Includes TV footage of poopy pants anyways
There weren't pictures in 1500s Pohnpei, but Paul Pierce on the other hand...
*_To Poop or not to poop... War is the question !_*
I was wondering why this island's name sounded so freaking familiar until I read that this is also home to the famous Nan Madol complex which is just off the eastern shore of Pohnpei (or Ponape, as it used to be named) This was part of the fabled lost continent of Lemuria (or Mu, as it is sometimes referred to.) So this island has a more interesting than being home to a group of warriors with strange fecal and alimentary proclivities. Still, it adds yet another layer to their unusual history.
Lemuria and Mu are inventions popularized by a Russian con-woman who believed ancient, telekinetic pure-race magicians spawned the world. Her belief system would later be repurposed by the Nazis, and is completely misunderstood by virtually all of its proponents today.
So yeah, kind of interesting. But Nan Madol has little to do with that beyond modern attempts to repackage her beliefs for a new generation.
It's truly a miracle that anyone on the island survived to this day and people still live there.
There is something deeply appealing about having a neighboring tribe to raid and be raided by.
You sound like you would love sword & sorcery fiction.
We still play those games with each other just not as explicitly... I can think of several times during the course of my life where I endured pain, even inflicted pain on myself intentionally just to spite someone whose M.O. was domination through the infliction of suffering. The idea is that if you can take the pain willingly, even happily (takes a lot of practice and is ultimately very damaging but I think it's our instinct to do these things) then it challenges the power of the ones inflicting it and eggs them on to really bring it. AKA go hard or go home, give me all you got, this is a good way to test whether someone is actually willing to go all in for that victory over you. I see it as they should have to earn it. And if they go as far as committing a grievous enough injury/murder then they end up losing status anyway, and alerting others to the fact that they're bad business/lack discipline. Some may see this as provoking someone unfairly but what they fail to realize is that they assume they have a right to act in ways that are condescending to others and if the others don't fight back then they deserve it so anyone with that mentality better be ready to get continually challenged and "provoked" And even the part about ultimately making peace with them and becoming "friends" at least sometimes... not all the time, holds true as long as humility and mutual respect is established. But if not, an enemy is just an enemy.
I want to support your channel by hitting that "like" button, but sometimes it's hard to "like" stories like this. I may not enjoy it, but I know your stories are teaching tools so I grit my teeth and listen.
Teaching stools indeed.
New crazy dungeons and dragons background just dropped.
Any chance they might have been killing each other in order to prevent themselves from using up all the resources that "were so abundant"?
If possible, it's always best to poop before a battle. Nobody wants to charge into combat while having to hold one in
there at the beginning you almost listed off the five things that make the world go around, in no particular order, but as they were given to me
1. Money
2. Power
3. Fear
4. Sex
5. Hope
8:31 The end card on this one is pretty funny in a crappy way 🙂
I suppose it would be untoward of me to ask what lunch was.
That intro has me hooked!!! Beautiful 👏👏👏
Finished the episode right now, absolutely beautiful! Again as always a great job at showing a different perspective on things. beautiful 👏👏
It's not about s*hit, it's about sending a message, it's not the same thing
You truly do go some strange places, Evan. Thanks for bringing us along.
Dude i just simply love this channel
Imagine being stuck in a tribal culture where the only thing everyone (including the slaves) strived for was to murder, humiliate or stick it to someone weaker. If I grew up there I would steal a boat and sail off in search of some distant land that had no people. Living out my days cold, hungry and alone would be a massive upgrade over tribal culture.
why do you think people ended up on random islands all over the place, but eventually other people have the same idea and come over too.
They were the bravest and most skilled small boat sailors the world has ever seen. And now we know why.@@thebogangamer1
i like to imagine the development of poop technology like missiles in the cold war. "chief, we must not allow a poop gap!"
Wish I could give this video a second like just for the end credits.
So slightly similar to the Flower Wars? Minus the large scale sacrifice of course.
An Italian bucket?
Oh. Yeah, you win that one.
3:16 *Utopians* who thing abundance is the solution to human violence should *take note.*
This is how THIS particular group of humans coped with their situation. It doesn't mean any (isolated) group would socially develop this was by default. Circumstances are always different and different circumstances will always lead to different outcomes.
@@Kap3lka It does, however, mean that abundance is not the solution to human violence….unless you think there is something about these particular humans that makes them different from other humans? And if so, how could you be sure the same thing doesn’t exist in other humans societies where people are confident that abundance will eliminate violence? Myself, I think that cultural absolutely matters, but human nature is to some extent universal to the species. In every society some people will always crave for violence, no matter how much abundance they have. Others, in those same societies, will never resort to violence, no matter how deprived they are. Perhaps in larger societies this is a matter of subculture or individual socialization or genetics, but that web is quite a tangle and unless utopians want to untangle it BEFORE bringing about their Utopia, they will fail because they are refusing to account for human nature.
Australia vs. EMU: Hold my beer
They say when you die, you shit your pants; but not me. I'm gonna shit my heart
❤
Im so glad we have videogames today
"Us vs them" mentality will always exist. Even if every one is the same race or religion.
And i hate this with my soul, damnit some people are so stupid
Lol, "grit ur teeth and bear it" is the absolute worst way to handle pain. It results in a perceptible increase in pain. If a tree falls in the forest or anywhere else for that matter where no one is around, does it make a sound? According to pain, "No."
So they were going to war and killing people… for sport?! 😳 And then they would have beer together?! 😳
They didn’t have grain, so no beer
Pompei ... Pohnpei 🤔 Hmmm A bit confusing for a minute!!!
0:18 happens in prison all the time
people die for the saddest shit
Haha didn't expect to see Paul Pierce catching strayss in a Rare Earth video
I just have to wonder when will you tackle the Ona and Selknam massacres here in Chile. I really loved your vids about Chile :)
The Architect was rught, given every need satisfied, humankind will not be content and will invent strife from minor differences in order to have conflict via tradition.
Why would they be looking for "undigested food" in their enemies gut, if the prize they're after is actually their enemy's "poop"....?
I lived on Pohnpei from 1990 to 1995 - and don't remember ever hearing about this.
Pohnpeians nowadays think it’s tabu to talk about how they used to live before the coming of the “good news” a lot will say it’s not true even though our oral histories say otherwise
this a bunch of lies. Tattoo true but reason for war to acquire shit is false more like pohnapeans warring each other for land resources yeah. There's a mountain thats called pusehn Malak meaning chicken poo there's a story behind it but that's the only thing that ever close to mention of poo other than that wtf they gonna do with the poo anyway for trophy? 😂 this some make up shit! Pohnapeans are known for Sakau=kava is even on the flag not warring for poo 🤦♂️
enduring pain as a coping mechanism in a cold, uncaring universe devoid of meaning? sounds reasonable to me.
You hit the nail on the head when you said its a part of the game.and thats what all war is a game.
Probably the most interesting RE episode ever.
I love that the quote at the end of the video is a double entendre
Grandfather Nurgle be PRAISED! 💩
The picture you used im pretty sure those are Kiribati warriors, still in the realm of Micronesia and I know it’s hard to get out there but I feel like you would love Nauru and Kiribati as well, some of their stories are intertwined
Absolutely I'd love to go to both. Nauru doesn't allow my type of filming without paying an unreasonable fee and I unfortunately didn't have enough time and logistical capacity for Kiribati this time around. But I'd love to go!