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Onewheel GT Review From PEV Enthusiast - Why I Sold It
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
- Onewheel GT Review From PEV Enthusiast - Why I Sold It
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Old video i know, but the crashes were definitely due to your stance and leaning forward. It was not due to speed. Your riding the OW with a stance like its a skateboard, and its not. Your weight and center of gravity should ALWAYS be over the center of the OW. If you treat it like a skateboard/longboard you WILL crash. You have to ride it like a snowboard.
I never ride leaning that far forwards, hit 18-21mph regularly riding 99% street on my GT and I haven't had a nosedive in 600 miles (2100 miles total if you include an XR and a Pint). I don't try to 'compensate' for the acceleration by leaning forwards like I do on an electric skateboard, I shift my weight and try to maintain my center over the wheel once I reach my desired speed.
I also noticed your comment about bombing up hills - as someone who started out on a OW and branched into eskate my perspective might be different than yours; you need to keep your weight over the wheel and feel the board push back (or sometimes surge) going uphill to know where the limit is, you shouldn't need to fall. I wouldn't bomb - up or down - any hills on a Onewheel in general, they're not meant to go very fast. I will admit the thing I loved most about my eskate was the ability to go uphill full throttle, but you can't import that mindset to a OW.
I also see throughout the video you're getting a lot of speed wobbles. That has to do with what muscle groups you're engaging, they're very different from those on an eskate. You want to let the board do 90% of the work, and you're not trying to balance against it like an eskate. The center of motion/control on a OW is directly underneath you, and you should treat it like something that can pitch and yaw, not just lean from side to side. An eskate's nose and tail are a fixed distance from the ground, and you're mainly countering the acceleration. Simple differences, but they're very different machines and the experience on one isn't necessarily translatable to the other, so I'd suggest building new habits for the OW/treating it like something new, not like another electric skateboard, or even an EUC (due to the stance).
Thanks for the detailed comments I really do appreciate it! I will get a Onewheel in the future when GT2!
Absolutely, pushback/surge, it's said you have to better "feel" what the board is doing, how it is acting, reacting and know it's limits so you can push them. Experience and ride time is key. Front foot placement and engagement of the sensor pad/s. Switch stance. Always have to keep on your mind 'I could nosedive right now' so you are prepared but it's that delicate dance like no other, think of it like riding on the edge no matter what speed, which is FLOAT LIFE!
You should post some videos. Seems u know what ur talking about knowing the differenceses riders go throw is a big thing people leave out of skateboarding I think. Or as u mention how u balance.
fucking excellent comment.
Doesn't it piss you off that it's so underpowered though? I ride a Kinsong S18 and I was just laughing when he kept falling going up a slight hill due to cutouts, I mean it's not funny because he could have gotten hurt, but it's ridiculous what a piece of crap this thing is yet so many people seem to have or want them... It's already slow as shit for the price you pay. My S18 cost more, sure, but it also goes like 35mph safely. Over 1000 miles and the only crashes were my dumb-ass fault, usually clipping the pedals while turning sharply at low speed, not cutouts due to lack of motor power.
This is 100% a villain origin story
😂
The Pain-guin 🐧
It's all physics; the heavier you are and the angle of the incline, both can push the board’s threshold over at different points. That's why it's up to the rider to learn about their one wheel and make the safest decisions while riding. It sounds like you need more practice.
How is that a viable argument? WHen you spend such crazy amount of money you would expect not having to crash several times to find out it's limits. Crashing at 10 mph going slight uphill is laughable. Onewheel's max speed and power should be way way over what one is going to use to prevent that. EUC has the same but they have speeds 50-90 kmh while one wheel does 30-40 kmh. Heavier guys can barely make it up any hill. 120 kg riders ride eskates that cost 600 euros. The concept of onewheel is awesome, but the reality is bullshit.
@@esk8spirit362 No, it’s not bullshit. I fell a hundred times learning to Onewheel. Kinda like skateboarding, all falls are worth it when you finally find your self carving and floating like the Silver Surfer.
I agree with this. It comes down to stance and technique, looks like you had almost completely shifted all of your weight to the front of the board. You should be accelerating by pressing down with your lead foot, not by leaning, hill or not. First part of the video was fair, but then it became very pointed and your remarks sound fear driven and do not reflect the experience of many of the users. 3 boards deep over here.
@@esk8spirit362 It’s the same argument used for cars. Drive them dumb and win dumb prizes.
Its not an automobile manufacturers job to teach people how to drive. If someone doesn't know how to properly handle a vehicle, thats on them, not the manufacturer. Its clear that this was a case of inexperience, user error, and not knowing the limits of the boards motor. Rather than take it easy and learn how the board handles, you just went full clip, wabbling all over ththe video and finally leaning hard into an uphill. Anyone with any experience on a onewheel would be able to tell you that was going to happen. If you're worried about falling, you should start by riding slow and getting a feel for how the board handles, both on flat terrain and uphill. I think you're experience with other PEV's may have made you overconfident and feel like you already had "experience" with a onewheel, even though its a very different vehicle ans this was your first time on one.
I have an XR with 1888 miles. It has been the best purchase for me so far. I climb mountain trails with no problem. To include, I have taken some gnarly nose dives, but this usually happens when I accelerate at the end of my rides and the battery would give out. Otherwise, I have learned to respect the boards constraints and always try to stay centered. Thanks for making this video. I am looking forward to the upgrades they add to the GT. Cheers
Exactly. Stay centered.
Clearly you work for future motion lol
I have both XR (first) and GT (second) - did my fair share on both, but now, when I need to pick one it would still be XR. Yes the GT is a bit more powerful, I don't really feel that. The XR has in my opinion almost the same power but is much more playful and forgiving. Also I keep scraping the bottoms (flat or hills) when pushing or jumping my GT while on my XR I rarely have this issue, I guess the clearance to the ground is higher due its thinner battery profile on the XR. Just my 2 cents, I wouldn't upgrade from XR to GT since I don't really feel it as an upgrade.. EDIT: Wanna buy my GT? 😅
Yea, I would definately cheock this up to inexperience on a onewheel. You can see your board having "speed wabbles" the entire time. Your also leaning hard going uphill, which is onewheeling 101. Its way more work on the motor going uphills, so rather than "crawl" uphills, just don't accelerate up the hill, go your natural speed, and let the board carry you up the hill, rather than pushing it. This isn't the board "failing", this is a video of a new rider who doesnt know how to properly ride a onewheel making a bunch of complaints instead of just admitting that he didnt know what he was doing.
😂🔥 amazing
Yep your totally right I agree 100 percent people who are really good at ONEWHEELS are not crap talking them there progressing and getting things done out there
The thing is, where is he supposed to learn this "onewheeling 101"? It sure isn't in the app "onboarding videos", it isn't in the manual, it isn't anywhere. The only way to learn is to crash 20 times?
@@wrybread it’s up to him to learn… But it’s not up to him to complain about it. I didn’t buy a bike and complain about it just because I wasn’t a good rider yet. He needs to give it time. Learn and then make an accurate review. He’s a noob…
@@dezh2544 the thing about bikes is that they're hundreds of years old and there's a reasonable expectation that people know the specific risks. Onewheels are a new thing and everyone I know thinks as he did in the early learning curve, that it's just a matter of learning how to balance on it. They don't know about nosedives when the board gets overloaded. Which is still fine, but here's the biggie: future motion requires us to watch a bunch of safety videos when we first install the app. They call it "onboarding". And there's no mention at all of this danger. There's one mention of nosediving in the videos and the manual and it warns that it's the consequence of ignoring pushback. But of course that's not the only time it happens, or even the most common one. So you have a device that's so new that people don't know the dangers and the company that makes it warns about a bunch of things but not the one that breaks almost every riders bones at some point. Fuck that.
I have had the same experience with nosedive on a grade on my GT. I badly injured my shoulder. I feel the problem is within the boards IMU where it does not understand that you are on a grade. so no pushback will occur. the board thinks its pushing back because of its attitude of being on a grade and pitch angle is higher but in reality the board is parallel to the ground so as a rider you feel no warning pushback, then it becomes very easy to overcome the motors limits and it shuts down and pitches you off.
I have also experienced this on a pint x recently while testing different grades of hills for pushback.
It's as if the board has no true idea of where it's at in space.
what i think is necessary is the board needs to be able to calculate true pitch angle in relation to the ground underneath of it and use an alternate set of pushback variables that are more aggressive before the motor limits are exceeded.
I have a pint and it goes uphill pretty good. When I set it up in the app I put it so that it gives me beeps when I'm over stressing the motor aka. So far I haven't fallen on it but if your a reasonal person enjoying it while trying to be safe your good. Seen too many people fall off for me to get over confident on the board
You’re complaining about the board cutting out with no user error, yet in literally every single shot you’re leaning way too far forward, and either ignoring or not noticing pushback…. that’s USER ERROR.
I could tell in the first 5 seconds that there was going to be a crash somewhere in the video.
Your head and weight is over the front foot pad and sometimes well further, it should be inline with the tyre at most, and ABC, (always be carving), especially uphill. Not to mention concentrating on the drone rather than what’s in front of you, and overconfidence, it’s all the basic recipe for disaster.
You’re pushing the weight forward way too far and straight lining it with a much wider stance than normal like it’s a bombing machine and like you’ve got 2 wheels at the front like your other boards!
I don’t particularly like the company’s latest policies or QC either, or the GT, but you’re riding it different to how most people ride OneWheels, yet blaming the OneWheel for your falls. I’m surprised you didn’t have more nosedives riding like this, you got off lightly if your only falls were at 10mph to be honest.
You’re shredding on the 4 wheeler man, but the same physics don’t apply to a OneWheeled machine. It only feels like a time bomb because you’re riding it like one
yeah bro you can't blame the board for having an incompetent rider!
This ☝️
I clearly said through out my entire video that it was all my fault. Was complaining about the how unforgiving the margin of error is
seriously tho if you were on a pint and you did that you would have died already... like you should be glad that you're in a more powerful GT because that GT actually saved your life!
Yeah....he does ride like a noob. I ate shit one time on my XR going uphill. It was definitely my fault.
Onewheel isn’t about “specs”. I’ve tried all PEVs and the others don’t feel as fun as the onewheel.
Most things you "try" won't feel as fun as the thing you mastered and familiar with. It took me 2 years fully to accept and embrace EUCs. Though I should be giving the onewheel the same time frame to try to love it. But these two falls and fractured ribs was enough for now. Maybe when GT2 comes out in 2032 i'll give it another try!
@@evtechsteven Fair enough. But the reason for your falls is having too much weight forward, not board malfunctioning. I go much faster up hills like that on my XR, which has a less powerful motor.
@@evtechsteven Also, practicing falling, tuck and roll could have helped.
Gl repairing your Onewheel. 😮💨
ya these boards are not ment for speed demons its all about the carve. XR rider for years now love it to death. GT though has many issues including not being able to replace the battery, ghosting, and no tire options yet other then the hard to get TFL enduro.
I understand your frustrations. Another poster mentioned it here, not trying to be mean, but your form is pretty bad. The boards computer can’t compensate for all the weight forward like that 😬 I’m also surprised you didn’t nose dive more. No excuses for future motion, they are a greedy / lousy company. I really wanted a GT, but the ghosting has scared me away. (And FM’s poor response to the issue) nice vid, the drone footage was awesome. 🤙🏼 enjoy your pevs, hope you give OW another try someday.
Hey yeah I completely agree that my form is bad. I mentioned that many times. For the board fail at 9 mph because of “bad form” maybe a little too unforgiving for something that costs over $2k.
Im still on my regular pint, having as much fun as on the first day, but im not pushing it at all - easy trails, strolling around the city, its like a meditation, but better :3
I ride an XR which is considerably less powerful than a GT when it comes to hill climbing, and I have made it up some pretty insane grades of hills. One thing you have to accept with the onewheel is it's self balancing nature, meaning you're gonna have to chill with it a bit in situations of motor stress. That motor is both keeping the board level and keeping you up and forcing you up a hill at 10mph. I don't know the grade of hill you were climbing, but with my XR I have made it up hills with 30 degrees of incline. You cannot go fast, sure, but I honestly don't ever feel like 20mph isn't enough. 20mph is absolutely flying when you're that close to the ground, so I usually ride around 16-18. I saw a video by TFL Jeff McCosker yesterday and he hit 28.5 mph on the GT without sag. These aren't built for speed and maybe you should have known that before you bought it. I do think they could realistically release a board with a 25mph limit, but where the company is going with their safety savior insanity movement, I doubt they'll make the board faster.
Try to get vesc installed on the XR, you will leave people on GT far behind on literally every possible hill lol
Typically the board will shut off at 18 or after. I had an XR+ for a few years. I rode perfectly and maintained balance and no matter what it would shut off there...granted I weigh about 232 pounds but anyway I placed it on ebay and it went to a new home in less than a week. I'm jumping into the euc world and have chosen the veteran lynx and I'm never looking back. FM is a terrible company as well, better off getting floatwheel. Much better and powerful faster boards with 100% right to repair and affordable.
I would simply say you're trying to ride it like an eskate, the angle of the board in acceleration compensates for you, don't lean forward ever, you can accelerate with front foot pressure, I can bomb up steep hills at 32 km/h (20 MPH) easily, just stand straight up directly over the wheel or even behind it
Which mode were you using. I know action cam video is tough to judge angles but on the street where you fell your front footpad was very low. I'm a very heavy rider and I have decided that I have to use Apex to be able to mitigate peddle dipping.
Also, you can go to another PEV and enjoy it's experience, but you can not duplicate the OW experience with another PEV. I suppose you could build OW oriented foot pads onto an EUC and come close but certainly not stock for stock.
OW Pint 1550+mi, GT 750+mi
EUC 460+mi
User error 100% in the footage. Read up on how it works and understand it fully. 100% reliable.
Thank you for the video. I was about to purchase a ONEWHEEL but you changed my mind. 🎉
You can still go up to 20mph up most slopes, I do it all the time in Park City. The time to accelerate up to that speed just increases, like it would decrease if you were going downhill. I'll admit though, patience is a virtue on any Onewheel.
I’ve been enjoying going slow and walking my dogs for the first day and second day, they pull me around so it forces me to balance better😂 already doing pretty good on day 2
@@zendlern If they pull you hard enough you can charge your battery on dog power! 🐕🦺⚡🤪
I had some hard falls right after I bought it, in 2019. Nowadays, I never fall, and I use it to go to work everyday
I like your video think u hit some hidden key point in owning this board that many reviewers leave out. This is important. Keep it up
I don't d-ride FM because I realize their massive shortcomings as a company. However every criticism of this video regarding your riding stance have been met with you being defensive or insulting. Your head is over the nose in every shot. You can't be pissed at a product because you didn't put in the effort to learn how to work it. Try leaning all the way forward on an EUC and see what happens to you. You even mention that you consulted the community and got the same answer. Then you try to compare other devices and mention that your other falls were from user error as if this was any different. No dude, it's not the board, it's you.
Honestly it just sounds like this isn't the device for you and most of your criticisms are unjustified. If you need convincing and happen to live in Socal, I'd be happy to invite you to a group ride where you'll see 30+ riders all having a great time and not falling on their faces
The ghosting issues, I can't agree with more. It shouldn't happen and it's extremely irresponsible of FM to let this go on for so long. They deserve the hate for that reason.
I ride a Pint X, love it. Have tried a GT. I’m 67 now. So lucky have stayed fit. I’m an Ex waterskier, ice skater, waveboarder, surfing. I still ride my bicycles. I ride kick scooters ever since they came out 1999 for over 20 years. My skateboarding now is a super sketchy. I also use electric scooters too. But this onewheel has really hit the spot with me. But is something that has been a challenge, and needs a lot of focus. I’,m only riding it a few months now. I got it used. So gave it a bit of a refurbish. Got the fangs. I’m addicted to it. But I never place too much trust on any kind of transportation on the limit. I’m a cautious guy. I’m an 8-10-15mph guy. I’m okay on medium hills. A bit windy going down any kind of hill. The OW manual tells us not to do hills up or down greater than 15deg grades. I’ve rigged up a dog leash and shoulder strap to tow it up a hill on it’s fangs or it’s wheel, and down and roll it home if I run out of battery. I enjoy it. Have not had any bad falls. A few stumbles at low speeds. But I practiced a lot on some dirt roads and grass and woodland and beaches first. Before I took it anywhere near people or cars.
I dunno. I’m 260lbs on an XR and have no issues with hills or nosedives. It’s a pretty intuitive and simple board to ride. I’m not understanding how so many people are having this many issues…. You can change the profile in the app if you want more nose clearance for uphills. A lot of this is a lack of understanding of how the board works. They have endless information to learn about the board before you even take your first spin.
Your stance is for esk8s, where you keep your weight at the front of the board with your back legs straightened out to account for torque. On the onewheel you need to keep your weight distributed between your heels and toes. If your vid i can see you leaning forward and putting more weight to the front of the board, then it starts wobbling as your shoulders past the tire line, resulting in you eating it. You probably just need more practice my guy, or maybe this type of PEV is not for you.
It sounds like all your complaints are based around blaming the board for your incorrect input. The GT has a noticable beep when your pushing the board too hard on hills. You can't blame the fact that you mess up as a new rider to one wheels on mechanical failure.
Is 9 mph pushing hard on hills? If I need to “respect” the board with such huge handy caps I rather get something else
@@evtechsteven I go faster than 10 mph uphill . It’s all about pushing with your feet than leaning.
Thank you for this video. I've been thinking about a 1W (particularly for riding on a beach). But thanks for reminding me of the serious risks. I've torn ligaments from riding. No fun at all.
Your leaning-forward stance, no carving is a recipe for wipeouts. The Onewheel is as stable as the person riding it. You can’t master it in a couple months. Hope someone got a good deal on your sale!
Why do I need to carve to compensate for its technical and mechanical limitations? A monkey can learn to ride a Onewheel. I just don’t want to lower the bar down and ride within its severe limitations. Yeah I sold it and got a really good deal on a 4WD eskate :) enjoy defending a company that gives you so little.
I've ridden both XR+ an GT totalling 2000 miles.. Never had issue where device failed on me. All crashed were by my human mistake.. Just my 2 cents on my experiences.
I came from Esk8 and still ride my Evolve GTR and Backfire Ranger X3. I also have an XR and I think one of the big differences when you fall is that the Onewheel nose dives unexpectedly and throws you into the ground at an angle vs how you could fall on Esk8. In my 40 plus years skateboarding, surfing, riding bikes...I have never fallen as hard as I have on a Onewheel. Took me months for my elbow to heal and everyday I want to ride my Onewheel but I have zero confidence that I can control the machine vs the machine controlling me.
i mean.. after 40 plus years your gonna get hurt easier and take much much longer to heal lol. that's just getting old
I still love my OneWheel GT and I’m back on it again, but I have never gotten completely over the fear of nosedive. I was going up a moderately steep hill at 23 mph trying to keep up with a golf cart. I leaned just a little too much and it threw me at the ground violently. In hindsight, yes I pushed the board too hard. The fall badly dislocated my left shoulder which caused me to spend a painful night in the ER and eventually get surgery. So it cost me thousands of dollars out of pocket and 4 months of hard rehab where I had to miss other things I love.
All this said I have now installed SonnyWheels on the front of my GT which should give me a fighting chance to not fall quite as hard if I ever nosedive again. The fall happened when I had 65 miles on my GT, I now have 470 miles on it. I’ve fallen one time since then, but it was a slide out onto my butt on loose gravel, not a nose dive.
Sounds like you're getting old man lol. Time for you to play golf or something more melow 😆.
Thanks for your honest review, I have an onewheel xr and I remember the spring of 2020 I was drinking and like Dumbass rode my onewheel and ate $hit 😆.
So far forward bro, great video though and good points - its basically like holding a broom stick in the palm of your hand, stay balanced over the center at all times
I’d definitely suggest more practice. You wobble a lot when you ride which is common with new riders. Once I got the balance down I shred smoothly now.
Only nosedive I've had in 1500 miles was from accelerating too quickly. Just gotta be smarter and learn from the mistakes! I've gotten stitches, and my knuckles are scarred as hell, but I'll ride this thing until it dies or I do!
Loving my GT, but I still appreciate your review and delivery. Thanks for sharing.
I want to love it too. But I’ll wait for the GT2
To be fair, the Onewheel is not meant for speed, range or anything a normal pev is often used for, it’s meant for carving and the feel of just riding. I haven’t personally owned a GT, but from what I’ve heard they’re quite inconsistent and seem to be much lower quality than the previous generation. If you really do want to get into Onewheeling you should totally buy a pint or XR, (I’d suggest a pint but apparently the XR is better for beginners) the feel of the pint is just beyond anything you’ve ever experienced. Also about the nosediving at low speed, I had the same problem with my pint (I actually broke my collarbone doing it) the Onewheel in my experience will actually pushback if you accelerate too fast, but if you are in the act of pushing on the footpad you have a really hard time feeling that, so you need to keep that in mind and beware over-acceleration. Personally I wouldn’t have sold the Onewheel after three months, ya gotta give it time, Onewheeling is HARD, you think your good after a few weeks just to find out you really suck when you nosedive going half the speed limit and break a collarbone. Just keep goin and you’ll get it.
It isnt meant for speed range or anything FOR YOU...the rest of yes yeah dude thats a no brainer hence the range anxiety whoch is a new phenom for most of us too,
@zane ketchum ok, then why don’t Onewheels go as fast as other PEVs? Why don’t they have the same range? It’s not like the tech doesn’t exist, if future motions intent was to make a PEV with range and speed they would have. I don’t disagree with you, I feel the same way about the OW a lot, wishing the wheel could go further and faster, but when you look into it the OW’s purpose is to cruise. Hey and maybe your not looking for that outa the wheel, maybe you are looking for speed and range, but my opinion? You should buy a different PEV if that’s what your looking for, but that’s just me 😂
Give it up bro. One wheel is trash
That makes it’s price being so high even more questionable
On my pint the push back is pretty hard to ignore, I never push against it, plus it's kind of hard to, mine really pushes back hard
There was no push back when I fell. Both times
the onewheel at 15mph is more fun than any other vehicle at 30 mph.
That’s because Onewheel at 30mph break collar bones. Jk I do agree with ya. You can do a lot of technical stuff 4 wheelers cant
@@evtechsteven yeah .its a new sensation. If you like speed buy other vehicle.
And you look a lot less like a queer doing it LOL
Im glad you called out what doesnt sit well with you. While most people are critiquing your form, all of your points are valid, even with a sligthly forward stance (its really not that bad tbh, especially at that speed) These commenters are waaay exaggerating your forward biased stance. With that said, even without stance debates, the GT is an absolute technical disaster, while they have fixed the recall on the sensor pads, there is still an amazing amount of controller failures that cause random shutoffs while riding, and people are still experiencing random shutoffs when hitting bumps etc (connector issues), there is no excuse for that. The XR didnt face this many equipment related failues.
When I saw this video, i expected to see the backlash in the comments, for some reason the OW community gets seriously butthurt when someone criticizes their way of life. Most Onewheelers I have met have boardsport experience from 15+ years ago but have very little PEV experience outside of the OW and have limited basis of comparison to better platforms. I ride mostly esk8 and have always preferred that over OW for speed, carving and range but I do like the freestyle trick and offroad capabilities of the OW however I sold mine recently as well. I had a series of sensor pad failures that caused me to lose my confidence in it and just couldnt relax while riding. I'm thinking of getting into a EUC but not sure.
I know you dont have your GT anymore but for climbing hills they have a feature called saftey beep so it beeps when the motor is strained. meaning you dont have to use trial and error by falling
I am 1000000% sure it didn’t beep both times I fell.
@@evtechsteven it’s quiet and you might have had it off
I just order the OW GTS and can’t wait to try it when it arrives in a few days. I have several other PEVs but this one is very unique.
I very much appreciate the review, I was looking into this but not anymore. Something seemed a bit off but I wasn't sure what it was, and now I know.
Try the float wheel
Nice review. However I can see your just a speed guy… China makes cheap speed and you love it. That’s great. Onewheel, however, isn’t about speed as it is experience. It’s an experience that has moved it past all these other items… far past. You don’t have to love onewheel but people have to realize they own this market and bridge the gap perfectly between something familiar and something so futuristic. We want more, yes. I want more out of Onewheel. I’m a great rider and feel like I’m ready for faster and farther but one thing I just can’t bring myself to do is pickup one of these other china boards because all I want is that addicting feel of the onewheel that just keeps me coming back way more consistently. They’ve done it. These other board can throw in all the power and speed they want. Cool. But nothing rides like a onewheel.
The Onewheel GT should probably be recalled. The failure rate of sensor pads is unacceptable. The malformed and unbalanced tires for their new custom size are a huge drop in quality from the previous boards that used established go-kart tires with real quality control. The amount of DOA boards is unreasonable. The rising price point can be hard to take, and this is without even considering Future Motion's escalating anti-consumer practices. All that said, your stance is entirely unsafe for a rider with less than 500 miles experience on a Onewheel. Your torso needs to stay above and behind the tire. You shift your hips forward to accelerate, not your shoulders and head. On both of your falls, I see your top move ahead of the tire and your front foot is probably too far forward, together overwhelming the board's balance.
they singlew handedly handed overr a large portion of THEIR market share to the electric unicycle market. LIKE ME!!
Did you enable the beep feature that plays an audible warning when you receive pushback? Did you feel pushback on those hills?
The board tries to inform you that you are pushing too far.
It’s enabled but I didn’t hear anything or feel any kickback.
@evtechsteven what kind of protective gear you are rocking ?
The hill thing is weird for me, I haven't fallen like that on mine and I ride mine up and down fairly steep inclines almost every day. I am currently around 235lbs and can push pretty fast up those hills, around 14-15 mph. I haven't had a nosedive yet but that is one of the dangers of riding these pevs. There is also the problems of being an early adopter of tech. No matter what kind of tech it is, the safe route is to wait at leat a few months for qc to work things out and not jump on it right away. You might not have encountered the problems that you did if you had picked up an older model or waited before purchasing the GT. That said, Future Motion should really do better and I hope they adjust towards better business practices in the future.
I could be completely wrong in this assumption but it seems like most of the people that are nose-diving are either pushing way too hard on flat ground to reach a top speed and maintain a top speed, crazy inclines at speeds that aren't exactly necessary and then the other people that seem to be nose diving are people that are just flat out new to one wheel.
I've also taken notice that a lot of electric unicycle riders nosedive on the one-wheel a lot..... electric unicycles have much more power in reserve, much bigger wheel for more physics forgiveness, bigger batteries for more power to keep the rider upright and more. I've never actually heard of an electric unicycle Rider not nose diving a one wheel
Yea, NEVER push a onewheel while going uphill. Especially if youre over 200lbs. Allow the board to "carry" you up the hill at the speed its comfortable handling that weightload at. Don't accelerate up a hill, and learn the limits of your board. It will save you a trip to the hospital and months of recovery. I also think it's important that people know how to fall and roll with the impact. One problem with the accessibility of onewheels is that people with no skating/snowboarding experience think they can simply hop on one and learn proper balance. But if this is your first board sport, you should be essentially learn to skateboard vefore learning to onewheel, as alot of the muscle memory of balancing is th same.
I think it has to do with center of gravity. He's leaning really far over the center in his fall. You can push acceleration as long as you don't overwhelm the motor by forcing it to balance for you at the same time as accelerating.
Hey Buddy, I noticed you live in Salt Lake. I also bought a GT and have had ghosting happed to me in my first 10 minutes of riding. What are you thinking of replacing your onewheel with?
I got this bad boi
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What ev would you recommend for riding on soft sand? Think the one wheel is the best for that am I wrong?
the one wheel works great on slightly wet sand, but if its super soft then it may still work but just very slowly if at all
screw one wheels says my broken elbow. it gave me no warning at about 20 mph or so. I'm a skateboard veteran.
It's not just top speed.
You have to factor in acceleration.
Like drag racing.
A Yaris can do 0 to 100 maybe in 20 seconds.
But to do it in 5 seconds would require a hell of a lot of power.
You were going up hill. You can get to 20miles/h
You can't expect to accelerate that fast up a hill without overwhelming the motor.
The only nosedive I ever experienced was when I had the cross light at the crosswalk and I was in the middle of crossing the street when I car decided to turn left anyways and he was heading straight at me, he was heading at me very fast and he didn't see me because of the driver side window pillar, I leaned hard to accelerate faster to get out of his way as fast as I can and that was what made me nosedive. The driver barely missed running over my one-wheel and the driver immediately rolled down their window and started apologizing saying I shouldn't have made that turn on the red arrow I'm so sorry
Wow that was action packed nose dive. Glad you are okay.
After my 3rd ghosting event i lit mine on fire smelling the sweet aroma of sulfer and it set me free! Back in a relationship with my ol XR.
Everything you said is correct. It is a ticking bomb. I have the 2 XRs. I won’t sell them. I refuse to buy the GT. Dude. Watching you fall is enough to keep me from hitting half the speed.
keep the XR's but i think the GT is safer than the XR. i regret selling my XR mainly because of nostalgia but in my opinion the GT is wayyyyy safer than the XR. you have way more overhead power so that you don't get into situations where the XR wold struggle with.
I like the yellow. As a steeler fan, I want to base my one wheel gt-s I’m saving for this color. 🤙
I ride my XR at 18-20mph up steep hills all the time, but I also am aware I’m in the pushback zone so I have absolutely no room to lean forward. Hard to explain until you’ve got about 100 or more miles of riding but you can feel the board stiffen up in the front & when you’re there you shouldn’t push it. Keep in mind you were also looking up at your drone when you crashed.
The new wheel size and stiffer tire and less clearance make it way less capable despite the higher torque. Sold mine after 2 rides and love my XR and PintX with Burris trail tire more than ever.
i love my pint x too! glad i didn't get a GT LOL surf's up 🏄♂
You sold it after 2 rides? Seriously. I've ridden every board FM has made from the V1 to the GT... I've got close to 5k miles combined across them. You can't possibly make a judgment call about the GT without riding it more than twice. The Pintx is just the lower powered pint with an XR battery in it. It's less safe - hitting dips or bumps on a Pint is sketchy as hell because it's so underpowered and poorly balanced.
All the boards have a place though, but you can't shit talk a device your rode twice.
@@normie26 I have every version since the beginning and just as many miles. I now ride mostly trail with many roots, rocks and dips. The Pintx pops easily underfoot and carves great. There is no getting around the added weight of the GT, the higher stance and the lower clearance. As the top of the range it should be better, not worse. My XR with the Enduro tire is the ultimate and would actually love to see a WTF rail option for a Pint X.
@@pdadv77 Thanks for making my point for me that you can't decide which flavor of board you like after 2 rides.
The XR is dead.
Sorry, it's dead and not worth debating about. If you got one and you like it? Yay. But the first thing an XR rider does is tell you all the stuff they fixed about it with mods. That's not a good selling point... I bounced off it fast (putting 1k into mods to get something decent? Come on...) and found the GT to be the first board I felt fully comfortable on out of the box.
Your mileage may vary, but we both can agree that you can't judge any of these boards off or 2 rides.
Also the Enduro tire was a cluster fuck of defective tires so it's hard to suggest it too.
@@normie26 watch what VESC will do for an XR not to mention a Chi Battery. The whole sport is going to change soon and Onewheel better step up and start innovating
Really? The first thing you mention as a negative is a missing $5 plug? And if you’re nose diving it’s 100% you. The board will prioritize speed over balancing if you accelerate too fast. Learn how to ride it.
You mean learn the boundaries of how severely limited this board is? No thanks I’ll get something else with that money.
Why are you wearing a street bike helmet
So I had two nosedives on mine in the first 30 miles….one was similar to these in that it was uphill, the second was on the flats under acceleration trying Apex for the first time. Here is what is interesting, the latter I was down to 53% percent battery for the first time, only to find out that my board died at 50%. It’s real easy to say one is doing this or that wrong, but if you have one of these boards and haven’t tested the battery life down to zero or whatever, beware, because you may not be operating in a safe zone if you have a defective battery. They took the board back and said they seen “variance in battery cells” so I’m still waiting on it. Regardless, they were scary falls, perhaps some user error, perhaps not, and I don’t think it is fair to judge the poster to harshly here. The main takeaway for me, besides admitting I have battered rider syndrome, is to take it easy on these things, except the limitations and dial it way back.
This is an important video, regardless who or what is at fault. Everyone be careful out there. Thanks for sharing!
I crashed in a parking lot just over 20mph, I got cocky with how aggressive it is and wanted to see how fast it could go off 0, so literally within 2 seconds I hit almost 20 then hit the ground🤣 memories
Eletric Unicycle here you come!
I fractured my elbow on a onewheel due to a nosedive (user error). now, each time I ride I anticipate falling. strangely enough, for me, it doesn't take away from the fun I still have on it. I just have in my head that I might nosedive at any moment 😂
Sorry to hear that. You have GT? do you use fangs?
@@evtechsteven yea I have a GT but I fell on a pint. I don't use fangs
You disabled safety beep for sure
It’s too faint to hear through the helmet
Not to be a hater but I’ve gone 12 mph up steeper hills on an OG pint and never had an issue when it pushes back listen to it
do you see the push back in the video? there was no push back.
@@evtechsteven I agree there’s no pushback but where the board failed is you were cruising on flat ground then accelerated aggressively up hill when I normally slow down then barely accelerate up hills I’ve realized that these things hate going up and down a hill so I baby it during those times, I agree 100% that electric skateboards are better and faster but for a balance board that moves I find it super impressive
Comparing a 30 pound skateboard that is utilizing a much smaller battery and motor to an euc is not fair. Electric skateboards have four wheels and a bigger battery and probably motor too. Basically a Onewheel is going to have limitations but it’s still a blast in my opinion. And it’s completely safe you just need to accept the limitations and don’t push through push back.
It’s completely fair if Onewheel prices itself into EUC pricing Territory. The question is how far does your dollar go?
After riding my GT for 220 miles crash-free, I had a bad one this week that has me ready to sell. I have no idea what caused it, but it just stopped mid ride at about 10 mph sending me directly to the asphalt.
same here ¹³ mph shuts off
thats why you dress like a storm trooper when riding casue you cant know its electrical therefore untrusted.
You ride a Onewheel for the dynamic rail-to-rail carving sensation, not the specs.
I’m sorry that’s what I thought too but 4 wheel skateboards are much better carving machines on flat streets and that’s what I ride on the most.
@@evtechsteven I disagree, Skateboards you use pressure on your heels and toes to carve, the Onewheel you use your hips, just like snowboard and surf, which I find more fun and better to carve, I can do tight turns and 360s on the onewheel where the skateboard have limitations on turns because the trucks.
I agree, it’s all about the carve. Where I live we have gravel and small rocks everywhere that’ll throw to right off a skateboard. The OW rolls right over that stuff and can be used on gravel roads and trails. An OW is it’s own thing and doesn’t compare to an EUC in my opinion. Plus a person looks like a total tool on an EUC.
But I agree that the OW has its issues and with their anti #righttorepair practices I can’t support OW as a company. My XR will likely be the last OW style product I own. I won’t be buying a new OW board.
Thanks for the video! Like you, I just didn't find the Onewheel nearly as fun and reliable as my other PEVs. I had my Onewheel XR for about a year. It was fun riding around but I never felt comfortable with it riding San Francisco streets. It just isn't fast enough to feel comfortable using the main street when needed. It also wasn't great with any type of road imperfection. My dual motor scooters and EUCs all can handle things much better. I am cool with people riding whatever gives them the greatest joy. For me it was never the Onewheel despite giving it enough time to really know its pros and cons. I was very happy to sell the XR to buy my first EUC which was the Nikola. I ride with a very big PEV community and the vast majority of Onewheel riders all converted to electric unicycles. I don't know anyone that has gone the other way.
Does that house at 3:37 have a built in trampoline that's buried flush with the lawn?
Yes lol it’s popular in Utah
onewheel's aren't fast or powerful enough to blast up hills the way i'd like too.
Thank you for this video! I have been wanting an EV for a bit and first wanted an E-Bike but too expensive, Then onewheel but im a large guy so need the GT and thats too expensive. Now im looking at EBoards particularly the Meepo Super v3 ER and will start saving for that! I use to ride Carver Skateboards and even worked at the Foundry they were made so this will be tons of fun come the end of the year!
@hellsfavoritesaltyberserke4724 I was looking at them but the Range was a little concerning, Do you run into issues with the 12 mile range? Also i weigh like 220 so thats my biggest concern for getting something under 21 miles range
In California there are alot of potholes, can you imagine hiting one of those in traffic and falling in front of a car
It’s price and performance is a huge reason why I moved away from Onewheels. Paying over $2k for a device that can’t even safely exceed 20MPH is kinda ridiculous. I paid $2200 for my inmotion v12 EUC and it has double the range, and more than double the speed.
You get way more for your money when you start looking at other PEV’s. The Onewheel is still a super cool device, but I personally cant justify spending that much money on something that lacks that much in performance.
I agree people say it’s not about specs but that’s to a certain extent if your buying a pev that costs. 3 grand and it only goes 25mph with a 20 mile range your kinda getting finessed but the one wheel is also more expensive because it’s built in the US so that’s a reason as well while EUCs are built in China and because of that one wheels are a lot more regulated due to United States laws so they can’t go crazy with the motorpower like they can with the unicycles
@@coreykirby1632 the Onewheel isn’t even made in the USA though. All of its parts are made over seas, and they are assembled in the US. The XR use to be made in the US, but that has long since changed. The pricing of Onewheels is a result of market dominance and branding. They charge more because they know people will pay. It’s kinda like buying a normal ass shirt with a designer logo on it.
You’re correct on the price in performance but it is made in the US it’s assembled at their factory in California it’s on their page Adam Savage visited it before and a lot of other people have before it is made in the US so that’s why it’s a lot more expensive but yes you are 100% correct onewheels are overpriced for what you’re getting and to tell you why it’s overpriced you don’t even have to compare the the cost of a euc that’s just as much or more than a onewheel there are EUC‘s that cost less than the one wheel and still outperform it and with more features and it’s funny you said that because I did exactly the same thing I bought a V 12 as well same price as the GT and it goes over twice as fast bear minimum twice the range more than twice the range if you’re going one wheel speed and significantly more features
And the most important thing it’s more safer
@@coreykirby1632 yes, they are assembled at their factory, but the parts themselves are not built there. They get most of (if not all of) their parts from over seas. The XR Vega tire is made in Italy. The pint tire is made in Taiwan. Even in Adam savages video, the CEO stated that they get their control boards from over seas. All they have to do is assemble the board in California in order to advertise it as “made in America”, when in reality it’s only “assembled in America”.
I’m not trying to be all “actually you are wrong” about this. But the premium they charge is definitely not from them being “made in America”. Assembled? Yes. Built? No.
I wish one wheel sold AR glasses that let you know when you are about to eat shit if you don’t pull back some.
Lol yeah. Or like a watch that vibrates. I never heard the beeps
@@evtechsteven yeah an Apple Watch app would be pretty sick or maybe a beeping noise you could hook up to headphones so you can hear it better. I’m thinking about getting one but I’m afraid my medical bills are going to cost more than the board itself. I like to go hard with anything I ride so the odds of me eating shit especially when starting out are pretty high with this thing.
Can’t believe one wheels are so expensive. You can almost buy an electric motorcycle for 3k
I’ve have a pint and I’ve gone 25 mph up a hill, falling at 10mph up a hill is user error and shouldn’t be used as to why not to get a onewheel
There are so many factors to consider when riding a onewheel.... Your weight, experience, fitness, confidence, the weather, road surfaces and quality, incline of the road, wind, battery level, temperature, your shoes..... The list goes on.. It's a bit of science, art and sport
It’s the same for eskate, EUC, and esooters. Onewheel a are not special. The only thing onewheelers need to be a pro at is knowing how weak that motor is and how to dance around its lack of power.
@@evtechsteven kek salty dude
The fall at 7:11 I can understand your frustration. Crawl before you walk though.
Onewheels are fun, I ride onewheel pintX and weigh 210lbs, a decent amount of nose dives. You needed the safety wheels, you were pushing GT to limit. Basically like riding EUC with a max lean in every situation.
I'd recommend checking your battery wires. My pintx negative wire was so crimped, it separated from the battery. Now the board is bricked. I have 600 miles on it and I'm an everyday floater that loves the feeling the boards give me, when they work right haha.
@@notthespicesaige yea I need to do that , general maintenance check. Mine is approaching 600miles.
🍀Thank you 😎✌️
YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I don’t care what all these professional “shredders” say. The boards don’t function properly. They don’t live up to their specifications. They’re dangerous.
No he’s definitely wrong in a few of these. I’m a newbie rider to OneWheel and I’ve gone uphill and I’ve never fallen over like that. In fact I’ve only fell over twice because I hit a pothole over here in New England lol.
I have a GT… have had it since launch and it’s pretty awesome. Tbh you just look incredibly uncomfortable like you’ve only ridden maybe 50 miles tops on it.
I have an electric longboard now, and I absolutely love it. Way better in my opinion.
@@CR-ji4ub Until you hit a half inch tall pebble with your wheels lol
@@jaredrips Bro I just got my GT not even a week ago and WOW it’s great! I can hit 20mph all day long without risk of nosediving. It’s incredible. The torque too is great. Going uphills easily. It’s a big difference from my XR tbh.
Lol this guy is clearly being fair and honest, but this is exactly what a world of EV riders looks like. I've ridden motorcycle since I was 4 and shit happens sometimes, some can deal and others can't. That simple.
The veteran sherman is an EUC that has an endless amount of personalization
Yo, I think I bought this from you bro! My wheel is identical with the Transformers icon. I wrecked going 31MPH on the side of Highway 36 near Tooele, UT!
Lol! What up Taylor! Funny coming across this 😆👍
I will never understand how on earth is this thing programmed to throw off its rider and allowed to be on the market for sale. There must be a different approach to this, its almost like a beta product and needs to be corrected.
Coming from an esk8 I'm using vesc in my boards and I see onewheel modifications with vescs. Do they have the same throw off thing as well?
I just bought a VESC based Floatwheel. So we'll see if I get thrown off lol
I'm gonna do the same. It's way too slow in my opinion. I also can't believe I spent what I spent for such little range
I get you brother, cutouts are part & parcel of self balancing devices. I ride EUCs so I get that. Battery capacity &or Vsag play a huge, err I mean YUUUUGE part in whether one easily overpowers the device or not. You're used to eboards where Vsag only means lower speeds but on self balancing monowheels, its means a faceplant! FWIW I'm not a OW apologiest by any means as I'm not an owner nor rider & don't plan to in the foreseeable. Its cool & all but too mild for me. We EUC enthusiasts almost always get the most biggest batt wh packs we can & besides more range, a large part is due to alleviating Vsag. Time for you to try out EUCs 😁
Completely agree! I really want that Veteran Commander! I am by no means a speed demon or out there doing crazy stunts. Onewheel is just way to mild for me.
eucs are the mild thing when you compare them to onewheels mate. rider of both here.
in your video, you don't surf the board, you are going straight ahead, trying to get more speed out of it, while the board under you is lurching. Neither the onewheel is your type of board, nor you are the surfy type of rider. It was definitely the right decision to sell it...
I agree. I just bought another one and am learning again!
the onewheel is a lot more fun if you dont just ride completely straight and actually carve in an S shape.
Why one wheel don’t include a charge port plug is just hilarious! 😂
it almost feels like they're selling us 2.6k ticket to get bone fracture/injuries lol
Love the start of this video
I agree with everything about what you said in this video. I can’t stand the company, but I love the onewheel. I’ve been riding for 2 years and luckily have not fully nose dived YET. You learn at some point where you can feel the nose dip and recover. Learn about VESC onewheel, I believe they are much better.
I want to love the Onewheel too. One day I will return and try it again and respect its limitations. My goal is to master every form of PEVs out there Onewheel included!
@@evtechsteven E-foils 😏
Try a summer board- I hear they are pretty challenging
If he can't learn on the FM firmware he should stay far away from vesc. It is not user friendly at all yet. That's like seeing someone crash a Toyota and saying they should build their own kit car.
Looks deadly.
Powerful review.
My board definitely ghosted no damage was minor , but they sent a footpad and same thing, It simply takes a bit of dirt on the sensor to have it hang. Not the best design thats for sure. But I brush mine clean constantly and so far no issues in 300 miles. I agree its not confidence inspiring, but fingers crossed mines been good now.
@hellsfavoritesaltyberserke4724 not with the newest design one they sent a while back now no. ACTUALLY a bit hard to engage depending on shoes but love it flawless.
Being a pev enthusiast, one should know and respect each vehicle rides and operates differently. With your riding stance alone I could see the issues, you are riding it like a downhill longboard, instead of blaming the mechanics first might want to learn how the mechanics function. Much like a balance board you want keep your weight over the center of the board or behind the wheel, this is proper stance and how you must ride the device. If you place all your weight on the front of the board going up hill this likely would cause it to fail. Steep learning curve to ride the onewheel, but once unlocked brings a floaty magic one can only experience snowboarding powder. Thus the desire to ride a onewheel. Getting hurt on a device would make anyone not want to ride it again, I get it. Wish you all the best.
I agree with most of what you said. However “know and respect” how each vehicle rides in the case of Onewheel is knowing how severely limited it is and operate within its underpowered boundaries. That to me is a big nope. I really want to love the Onewheel. But for $2500 I can buy something I like more.
They ever thought to put a second wheel for extra stability?
Why stop at 2 wheels?
@@evtechsteven 😀
Onewheel xr turned off on me when the street was slightly downhill, I had to save my skin by leaning back to scrape back of the board because it was nose diving, then it turned on by itself so I didn't have to stop the ride. That is why it makes me cringe when people do some tricks on onewheel, treating it like a skateboard and trusting the computer chip of onewheel with your life.
I rode a onewheel today for the first time ever and it yeeted me off when the battery died. Be careful out there. It legit stopped the wheel while i was going about 8-10mph to a hault.
I've been racing cars for about 8 years now. In the road course circuit ten ohio and of surrounding states. On August 10th 2015 I crashed a super charged Corvette in the woods in turn, 9 at a 110 miles per hour. I was lucky to survive, let alone walk away with only a bloody nose. Thank you to my cage and helmet and harness. I only have about 2000 miles on the one wheel. And I'm an extreme trail rider and intend on racing once. I get legend status which means fifty years of age. April. I've crashed. I've gotten hurt way worse than I've ever gotten in any car. However, it was always my fault. And I always learned how to fix it. So it's as safe as it is any extreme sport .. Granted, I have a very little chance of catching on fire and a flaming wreck on my one wheel. However, I've been hurt so much more worse and frequently. Like any extreme sport, you're only gonna be as safe for as long as you remain content with mediocrity . I have found for me. The trick is balancing staying healthy enough to continue to get better while pushing my bounds and learning how to fall and crash like a champion. Kudos to everybody. And I look forward to seeing you all in the near future.😅
just wanna say, on that last clip, you were leaning so far forward, unless the OW had like the power of a motorcycle, there is just no way it could have caught you in time