Justin is the man. Heard him on your pod years ago. Randomly met him when he worked at Sportsman’s Warehouse. Saw him working with Dirk on a mouth tab setup at his own shop. I started taking my bow to him at that shop. Now I travel from Orofino to Spokane Valley for him to work on my stuff. Hopefully he doesn’t move to Antarctica or I’ll be taking my bow there. I trust him inherently.
This is a great video. I've been working on my own bow for the last several months but now planning to completely set up a new lift X. This video has really filled in some of the gaps for me.
I wish Boise had a shop that had guys like this that cared this much about bow setup! I’m a big believer that nobody cares about your stuff as you do, and I’m tempted to just start doing my own builds. But man there is a lot to learn!
The information shared in this vid is gold! Always great content, thanks for sharing the knowledge that justin has acquired over all these year. Keep up the great work, God bless. Really enjoyed you and Cam on his Keep Hammering podcast. Good stuff
My man, this is LEGIT!!! I’ve geeked out on this build, thank you so much for the attention to detail. Mathew’s is about to get more of my hard earned money. Blue collar guy spending white collar money.
Awesome video!!! Love how in depth you went on your bow build and Justin definitely knows a thing or two about bows. Wish I was closer, I’d buy one from him just to have him set it up for me. Hope your hunt went well!
You guys do an amazing job, I love watching these build videos even though every item you put put on that bow is lightyears out of my price range except maybe the serving string LOL. Although my 16 year old bow is really starting to show wear and tear and replacement parts are becoming hard to find. Sweet bow I hope you have tons of success with it!
I think you’re making the right choice. Nothing absolutely mind blowing with the vxr, v3, v3x, or the phase 4. But this bow is incredible to hold and shoot. Definitely will be a good time to upgrade! I got to shoot one yesterday and mine should be in Monday!
Not enough bow to replace my V3X. I mean it is a great bow. However, not being sponsored I have to stick with a bow I know really well and works perfectly. In the future I plan to get a new bow but the lift just does not sell me on the upgrades. I just shot the lift at my pro shop. Though nice, I personally did not notice enough change.
Question. New to Bowhunting/archery and my question is should I buy this high end of a bow just because I can or is there a better set up for my experience cheaper ?
Excellent step-up detail, thank you! I truly appreciate the material detail/highlights. Only thing I didn’t see was the D-loop material used! Thanks again, keep up the good work!!
@michaelc1839 Josh is definitely on still. They just did broadhead review video a week ago.. my point is Tim is not part of the "crew" he left to do his own thing
Great video, I'm sure that Justin and you are aware of this but just for your viewer's sake I want to point out a fatal flaw that I see quite often. The entirety of the tuning process was done without the peep sight installed. Peep sights certainly change the nocking point height as you're spreading the string. Timing can become an issue as well. As shown, there was a piece of loop material that was hollowed out to make an adjustment in the cable, great tip and I do this as well. To think that the giant peep spreading the string won't have a similar effect is something that needs to be pointed out if people are going to follow this for their own setup process. Peep should be in the bow before nock height, timing, and paper tuning. It does affect it.
I may have missed it but after deciding peep location with d-loop already on, if peep was not coming straight back you would twist string and rotate dloop on string to line up ? Newbie here with no good shop close so thanks for these vids !!
Dan, on the stabilizer kit can you run the side bar mount off the front of the riser behind the front stabilizer as i dont have the lower mount on my mach one, but would like to run the kit. If MFJJ wants to chime in as i know that he has some great ideas as well.
Thanks Dan great video. I believe Mathews made the biggest jump this year. Also a shorter draw took me to rx7 80 limbs. This system will be better for me. Also draw cycle is not harsh on this bow. Yes i am going to buy it.
So you are recommending moving the rest to remove the Mathews nock high tears? I watched this video over to build my Lift X. My D loop is already 1/4" high, and I absolutely do not want to move it higher than that. I'd rather bump it back down to 1/16-1/8" high, and then adjust the rest if that's what needs done. I had this same issue with my V3. Didn't know if I was supposed to add twists or what.
Sweet bow! My question is on timing the bow with a cable driven rest. If you were to have to adjust the down cable, what would you do to keep from twisting the cord from the rest? Just disconnect from the rest and reset it once the bow is timed?
Just so we’re clear, he set the nock point so the arrow was perfectly level when the rest is all the way up? My phase 4 is super nock high from the shop I got it from
Good setup video! Question: Are you having to run your cock vane orientation slightly canted to the 1 o'clock position in order to clear the cable guard? In the V3X/P4 versions that was necessary when using a high profile vane over .50" tall like a Blazer, AAE Hybrid HP, etc. Thanks!
I watched people shooting the LIFT at an archery shop. There was a guy shooting a Phase 4 near them. The Phase 4 sure sounded more quiet than the LIFT did. The LIFT they were shooting was all decked out with a stabilizer, etc. ( I think it was the factory demo setup sent to the dealer, fully equipped). The Phase 4 was equipped similar and it was easily more quiet. Also, the guy shooting the LIFT said the draw cycle was very heavy at the front end of the cycle. Very interesting! I have not shot one, just sharing what I have seen so far. My dealer said all of the LIFTs so far have come in really heavy in terms of draw weight. With a 70# mod they are drawing close to 75 lbs, etc. Another interesting point.
Ah, actually I was being sarcastic. 7 FPS on 330 FPS is 2% change in velocity. For such a minuscule change in velocity on a percentage basis it is not the velocity that is making the LIFT louder, it is just a louder platform than the Phase 4. Maybe next time you use some common sense and don't be such a dick with your ignorant comments. @@mikestackz854
Im not a elkshape guy, I'm currently answering this question while eating a huge plate of spaghetti. But, the phase 4 was not available is 80 last year, only 75.
What spine are you shooting Dan did I miss it? I just bought the lift 33 80lb mods shooting 300 air strikes at 28”. Some people are saying that it is under spined.
I ask this question as a learning question. Isn't that overkill to worry about a half twist on string by burning in a half piece of bow serving material when you haven't even broken in the string and cables yet from shooting a hundred shots. I'm not a string expert but wouldn't shooting stretch the string and break it in enough that one twist would would eventually need to be done later anyway? Please explain if I am wrong and why so I can learn more please.
It would be cool to shoot with yall..I just got done building an obsession fx7 and this bow is fast and quite..I live in cda so I am looking forward to the Farragut 3d shoot
Did you have to bump up in spine at all for the 80lb mods?? Im right on the cusp now and im hoping my new strings dont make me under spined. Im shooting VAP SS 300. 165 total up front with insert point and collar. At 29.5” draw 72lbs, round 15.8% FOC, got lucky there. Looked like your arrow was little longer even than usual. Love these vids. Ill have a nice bow shop man cave some day
Is there a reason why you don't just run it through the middle of the of the string that you're putting that wedge through? That's how they did it on my bow from my bow shop. It's just kind of pushed through I think and then maybe tied. I'm not at home right now or I'd look but I think it's just tied off on the other side or maybe served but wouldn't that save on weight and stuff or am I missing something?
DS. Whatbdoes it typically cost to have these guys tune your set ups?? Im in Washington and willing to drive a few hours to get a real tune. The shops near me unfortunately are not this meticulous!!
Is there any value in paper tuning with a bare shaft vs how you did setting up this bow? I’m assuming with all your knowledge and knowledge you have access to no? Any insight is appreciated.
@ElkShape ok thank you! I don't Carr for the thick wrist slings! So this looks like a good substitute! Ps. I love ur channel it's by far my favorite when it come to archery! Keep it up man!
@@ElkShape Mathews get mad you don’t shoot the bridge lock bars? I’d rather buy your whole kit for the same price as one of the bridgelock stabilizers…
Nothing it seems. Its not really necessary. Ive never used it. I've always just used 18-20 thou powergrip on nock points and bcy 23 d loop. Its slimmer d loop material than the 24 but has a coating making it more durable. Its ends dont burn as well as the 24, but with practice you can get them burned down fine. Dont use the 23 if you have front closing release calipers though. Theres many many ways and methods to set up a bow. Everyone has their own nuances. No single person does it the "correct way" as there are many correct ways.
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Justin is the man. Heard him on your pod years ago. Randomly met him when he worked at Sportsman’s Warehouse. Saw him working with Dirk on a mouth tab setup at his own shop. I started taking my bow to him at that shop. Now I travel from Orofino to Spokane Valley for him to work on my stuff. Hopefully he doesn’t move to Antarctica or I’ll be taking my bow there. I trust him inherently.
The dude is meticulous 👌
Need more of Justin on here...one of my favorite videos you have put out!
This is a great video. I've been working on my own bow for the last several months but now planning to completely set up a new lift X. This video has really filled in some of the gaps for me.
Wow, a video where top hats are actually explained? Good job ElkShape.
I wish Boise had a shop that had guys like this that cared this much about bow setup! I’m a big believer that nobody cares about your stuff as you do, and I’m tempted to just start doing my own builds. But man there is a lot to learn!
Justin is a solid dude! So happy to have that guy at SVA.
He's amazing! A true bow tuning gangster! -DS
The information shared in this vid is gold! Always great content, thanks for sharing the knowledge that justin has acquired over all these year. Keep up the great work, God bless.
Really enjoyed you and Cam on his Keep Hammering podcast. Good stuff
Glade you add the post filming note about the peep , big plus Mathew building high end strings
Thanks for watching! -DS
One of your best videos. Thanks for the detail and asking clarifying questions. It helps a ton for us trying to learn.
My man, this is LEGIT!!! I’ve geeked out on this build, thank you so much for the attention to detail. Mathew’s is about to get more of my hard earned money. Blue collar guy spending white collar money.
As my GrandPa used to tell me, “You’ve got a Champagne taste and a beer budget.”
Blue collar guy spending white collar money. Hit the nail on the head.
Loved the tip with using the press to fine tune versus just the draw board clicks. Awesome info!!
Glad it was helpful!
Dude.. I learned so much from this. Thank you
Awesome video!!! Love how in depth you went on your bow build and Justin definitely knows a thing or two about bows. Wish I was closer, I’d buy one from him just to have him set it up for me. Hope your hunt went well!
I like running my Mathew bow with top cam so slightly hitting first about a business card thickness or less
This video is loaded with gold, appreciate you man!
Thanks for watching! -DS
Awesome video! I love all the tips . Thank you!
Thanks for the information! I will be checking out that website thanks again!
Dan, Justin, thank you! This video was so in depth, my gears are turning!
Dan from good ole Missouri here watch all of your alls videos non stop thanks for all the dope videos. Tell me more about this skateboard tape please.
On your grip
Justin had some nice tips that I haven't seen on YT before. He may be quiet, but he sent it.
Hey Brother. Awesome video. I did learn some things, so you did a helluva job explaining things. I so need a Mathews bow in my life.
Awesome video love to learn on your channel.
Good idea with that grip tape. Lots of good nuggets in there
Great video, Hard no on the AAE wedge. Just serve it.
That's a nice kitchen!
Once again, another outstanding video Dan. BZ. 🦌❤️⚔️🇺🇸
You guys do an amazing job, I love watching these build videos even though every item you put put on that bow is lightyears out of my price range except maybe the serving string LOL. Although my 16 year old bow is really starting to show wear and tear and replacement parts are becoming hard to find. Sweet bow I hope you have tons of success with it!
Great video! I learned a couple new hacks from Justin.
Great video! Justin has a wealth of knowledge!
He's a sharp cookie! -DS
Love your videos ❤
Great video. Excellent info. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
I’ve been waiting for something to replace my Halon 32. This is it.
I think you’re making the right choice. Nothing absolutely mind blowing with the vxr, v3, v3x, or the phase 4. But this bow is incredible to hold and shoot. Definitely will be a good time to upgrade! I got to shoot one yesterday and mine should be in Monday!
Nice! Being a lefty I hope my local shop will have one to try.
@@Thedudeabides803 dang! Yes hopefully they get one soon!
I agree. I'm in the same boat... Monster lineage... Fast bow but with an inch and a half more brace height! Big improvement
Very informative video.
That guy is a bow wizard.
Great video Dan. Congrats brother.
Not enough bow to replace my V3X. I mean it is a great bow. However, not being sponsored I have to stick with a bow I know really well and works perfectly. In the future I plan to get a new bow but the lift just does not sell me on the upgrades. I just shot the lift at my pro shop. Though nice, I personally did not notice enough change.
STILL love my V3X bro! But no denying, as a Mathews man through and through, this thing is a beaut
Question. New to Bowhunting/archery and my question is should I buy this high end of a bow just because I can or is there a better set up for my experience cheaper ?
@@iiTz--Bo I bought a used flagship first and then bought a new flag ship. The quality is just so much better. I was new as well
@@jeffgenchi5863 where a good reference is to get a used one?
Love the stuff man! Im 15 and don't have the money for a decent bow but I love getting the info!!!
Knowledge is power! Thanks for watching lil homie! -DS
Excellent step-up detail, thank you! I truly appreciate the material detail/highlights. Only thing I didn’t see was the D-loop material used!
Thanks again, keep up the good work!!
Right on - BCY 24 Loop Material! -DS
Thank you for all you do for us. You, MFJJ, Tim and the crew.
I only wish we had this amount of passion in bow hunting and archery here in Australia.
Tim?
@kenraterink yes. Tim. The lad that learnt everything from them and also shares his knowledge.
@michaelc1839 ah the Tim not on this Chanel then?
@@kenraterink mfjj ain't on this channel either. What's the point you are trying to make? All I did was show some appreciation to all of them.
@michaelc1839 Josh is definitely on still. They just did broadhead review video a week ago.. my point is Tim is not part of the "crew" he left to do his own thing
Solid nuggets of information
Another awsome in depth video Dan!!!! Keep it up bro, got my pre order in for the 29.5 lift, cant wait
Appreciate it!!
Awesome video 👍🇺🇸
truly one of the best set-ups I've seen , I'm ready to attack my own , thanks dude
The way he ties his D- loop is much better than the way Josh ties his!
Do you have video of how the nose button was tied in? It would be cool to be able to watch it from start to finish
Great video, I'm sure that Justin and you are aware of this but just for your viewer's sake I want to point out a fatal flaw that I see quite often.
The entirety of the tuning process was done without the peep sight installed. Peep sights certainly change the nocking point height as you're spreading the string. Timing can become an issue as well. As shown, there was a piece of loop material that was hollowed out to make an adjustment in the cable, great tip and I do this as well. To think that the giant peep spreading the string won't have a similar effect is something that needs to be pointed out if people are going to follow this for their own setup process. Peep should be in the bow before nock height, timing, and paper tuning. It does affect it.
I like these types of videos. Good job, keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching! -DS
I may have missed it but after deciding peep location with d-loop already on, if peep was not coming straight back you would twist string and rotate dloop on string to line up ? Newbie here with no good shop close so thanks for these vids !!
What grain arrow was used in this video?
How come you dont papertune with the stabilizers on and whatever other accessories for hunting?
Dan,
on the stabilizer kit can you run the side bar mount off the front of the riser behind the front stabilizer as i dont have the lower mount on my mach one, but would like to run the kit. If MFJJ wants to chime in as i know that he has some great ideas as well.
@Elkshape does the ultra view compare to the landslyde you're running on the target bow
Dan, where can I get a wedge like the one in video for QAD?
Hi Dan,
Not sure if I missed it in another video or not but was just curious on which Matthew's bow you like best over the past 4 years? Thank you
Thanks Dan great video. I believe Mathews made the biggest jump this year. Also a shorter draw took me to rx7 80 limbs. This system will be better for me. Also draw cycle is not harsh on this bow. Yes i am going to buy it.
I shoot a Mathews v3 27 but man I like this lift. Haven’t shot one yet.
What wrist sling are you using?
So you are recommending moving the rest to remove the Mathews nock high tears? I watched this video over to build my Lift X. My D loop is already 1/4" high, and I absolutely do not want to move it higher than that. I'd rather bump it back down to 1/16-1/8" high, and then adjust the rest if that's what needs done. I had this same issue with my V3. Didn't know if I was supposed to add twists or what.
Sweet bow! My question is on timing the bow with a cable driven rest. If you were to have to adjust the down cable, what would you do to keep from twisting the cord from the rest? Just disconnect from the rest and reset it once the bow is timed?
Yes just pop the cord out of the cable before doing any twisting…If not your gonna wrap the cord around your cable.
Hey Dan love the video! What's your opinion on the bridge-lock stabilizers? How does it compare to your AAE stabilizers?
@dan why did you choose the 29 vs the 33? is it because of draw length / arrow speed?
Which wrist sling is that? I’m really digging the small sling and want to ditch my bigger bulky one.
Just so we’re clear, he set the nock point so the arrow was perfectly level when the rest is all the way up? My phase 4 is super nock high from the shop I got it from
Separation is in preparation!!!
Good setup video! Question: Are you having to run your cock vane orientation slightly canted to the 1 o'clock position in order to clear the cable guard? In the V3X/P4 versions that was necessary when using a high profile vane over .50" tall like a Blazer, AAE Hybrid HP, etc. Thanks!
What grip ar you using on your lift?
Dan! Where can I get your purple release??
I watched people shooting the LIFT at an archery shop. There was a guy shooting a Phase 4 near them. The Phase 4 sure sounded more quiet than the LIFT did. The LIFT they were shooting was all decked out with a stabilizer, etc. ( I think it was the factory demo setup sent to the dealer, fully equipped). The Phase 4 was equipped similar and it was easily more quiet. Also, the guy shooting the LIFT said the draw cycle was very heavy at the front end of the cycle. Very interesting! I have not shot one, just sharing what I have seen so far.
My dealer said all of the LIFTs so far have come in really heavy in terms of draw weight. With a 70# mod they are drawing close to 75 lbs, etc. Another interesting point.
Phase 4 is slower, that’s why it’s more quiet
Ah, right on. That is amazing that 7 FPS makes a bow so much louder and/or quieter. Wow. Thank you.@@mikestackz854
@@huntsimple9527 you’re welcome maybe use common sense next time, mr80iq
Ah, actually I was being sarcastic. 7 FPS on 330 FPS is 2% change in velocity. For such a minuscule change in velocity on a percentage basis it is not the velocity that is making the LIFT louder, it is just a louder platform than the Phase 4. Maybe next time you use some common sense and don't be such a dick with your ignorant comments. @@mikestackz854
Another great video, with some nuggets of wisdom sprinkled in.
You said the Lift is 19fps than you're Phase 4. Did your Phase 4 have 80lb limbs?
Im not a elkshape guy, I'm currently answering this question while eating a huge plate of spaghetti. But, the phase 4 was not available is 80 last year, only 75.
Great video Dan! What Nose Button are you using?
Always wondered what the best distance to paper tune was. Thoughts?
What spine are you shooting Dan did I miss it? I just bought the lift 33 80lb mods shooting 300 air strikes at 28”. Some people are saying that it is under spined.
What strings are you running?
Dude I didn’t even know you could move the string stop 😯
I ask this question as a learning question. Isn't that overkill to worry about a half twist on string by burning in a half piece of bow serving material when you haven't even broken in the string and cables yet from shooting a hundred shots. I'm not a string expert but wouldn't shooting stretch the string and break it in enough that one twist would would eventually need to be done later anyway? Please explain if I am wrong and why so I can learn more please.
What's the lowest draw weight you can safely turn the 29.5 down to with 55lb mods ?
It would be cool to shoot with yall..I just got done building an obsession fx7 and this bow is fast and quite..I live in cda so I am looking forward to the Farragut 3d shoot
What is that wrist sling?
Did you have to bump up in spine at all for the 80lb mods?? Im right on the cusp now and im hoping my new strings dont make me under spined. Im shooting VAP SS 300. 165 total up front with insert point and collar. At 29.5” draw 72lbs, round 15.8% FOC, got lucky there. Looked like your arrow was little longer even than usual. Love these vids. Ill have a nice bow shop man cave some day
I see you went with the UV over the Canyon Pounder. What was ultimately the reasons for choosing the UV over the Canyon Pounder?
Video coming soon! -DS
can you or someone who sees this link the skateboard tape you mentioned ?
Why not use a bridge lock stabiliser?
Anyone know what release he’s using?
Is there a reason why you don't just run it through the middle of the of the string that you're putting that wedge through? That's how they did it on my bow from my bow shop. It's just kind of pushed through I think and then maybe tied. I'm not at home right now or I'd look but I think it's just tied off on the other side or maybe served but wouldn't that save on weight and stuff or am I missing something?
Anyone know what release he is shooting
I wonder how much my phase 4 is worth if I would xchange?
Due you run your draw length mods or 1/2 in shorter mods, heard mathews draw 1/2 longer on their mods
DS. Whatbdoes it typically cost to have these guys tune your set ups?? Im in Washington and willing to drive a few hours to get a real tune. The shops near me unfortunately are not this meticulous!!
Is there any value in paper tuning with a bare shaft vs how you did setting up this bow? I’m assuming with all your knowledge and knowledge you have access to no? Any insight is appreciated.
What arrows are you running? I’m a 26” draw and shooting 80 pounds on my Ventum 33 and was only getting 277 out of my rig.
They appear to be victory rip tkos.
This guy needs to tune my bows
Could you tell me what you used for your wrist strap?
Paracord 550 -DS
@ElkShape ok thank you! I don't Carr for the thick wrist slings! So this looks like a good substitute! Ps. I love ur channel it's by far my favorite when it come to archery! Keep it up man!
When will your stabilizer kit be back in stock???
Any day now.
@@ElkShape Mathews get mad you don’t shoot the bridge lock bars? I’d rather buy your whole kit for the same price as one of the bridgelock stabilizers…
When you are at full draw where does your arrow end. How short can you safely do that? I noticed my arrow is poking out past the riser a fair ways
Arrows should be 1 inch longer than your draw
@@mikestackz854 thank you!! Much appreciated!
Is that the 29.5” or the 33”?
He said 29.5”
Dans too short for the 33, the bottom cam would drag on the ground.....
My draw length at 27 puts me at the most efficiency with the 29.5! -DS
so you have a video or more info on Ata for shorter draws, I'm 27.5
are you running full 80 lb this season dan
YEP
What is he using to lubricate to the D loop and Nock ties?
Nothing it seems. Its not really necessary. Ive never used it. I've always just used 18-20 thou powergrip on nock points and bcy 23 d loop. Its slimmer d loop material than the 24 but has a coating making it more durable. Its ends dont burn as well as the 24, but with practice you can get them burned down fine. Dont use the 23 if you have front closing release calipers though. Theres many many ways and methods to set up a bow. Everyone has their own nuances. No single person does it the "correct way" as there are many correct ways.
I think it's bees wax
Bee's Wax! We use it on the soft knots and peep tie in as well! -DS
So you need to buy a new ingage limb legs for new bow?
EXO leg limbs for specific to the LIFT. -DS
@@ElkShape Thanks 😊
Is that your kitchen the tiler stuff up the brick bond on the right side of the windows
I'm a tiler and it annoyed me
great video....a little dark though. hard to really see detail of the build