First time I ever landed at a Bravo was KMSP and they put me on Runway 12R which is 200 feet wide and this got me. Thankfully not to the extreme as happened here but I felt like I was in the flare forever than then touched down firmer than normal. Learned my lesson that day.
Whenever I made a hard landing, I would wince and look at my CFI asking if I broke the airplane. He always asked "Is your back okay? ... then the plane is fine." One thing to be wary of about the second option of adding some throttle to float a bit and salvage the landing is to ensure you've got long enough runway.
Had this problem just recently - used to a 75ft wide runway, visual illusion on a 150ft runway got me off. Next time got it dialed in and didn't flare soon enough at my home airport 75ft! Got solo sign off to the big runway, been practicing on both so I can adjust for those variations. Going back and forth has helped a lot to not "over fit" for one set of training conditions.
With runway available, the soft field is the safest landing technique. The trick to keeping some power all the way down is to use the flaps that are there so you can land slowly and softly with power and slow down on short final using the apparent rate of closure with the desired touchdown spot Wolfgang talks about and you use every time you decelerate into an intersection with your automobile. We can fly slow safely with flaps and we can fly slower with power than without if we pitch up to slow down. If on short final coming into high ground effect we are going so fast we have to cut power and so fast that more pitch up with some power causes climb, we are going way too fast to quit flying in one inch ground effect. Vso, an out of ground effect number is irrelevant here. Power controls rate of descent all the way down if slow enough. Power saves. LOC for whatever reason cannot be deadly at 35 or so actual quit flying in low ground effect with power airspeed. Our old trainers airspeed indicator was on the peg and should be. Some newer ones will show something, but it has little meaning. Feel the airplane. Feel the dynamic throttle. Feel, even wiggle the elevator. Feel longitudinal alignment with your happy feet. With appropriate power and pitch, the airplane can be controlled all the way down and we do not have to be a passenger in a long hold off from too much airspeed. If you get too slow you will mush. Good, you are getting there, Add a little more power to find the earth in a three point attitude all slowed up and ready to squat.
Only flying LSAs (I think thats what its called in the USA) my CFI took me to an army field to let me experience this illusion. usually AWACS are landing at this airport. The first final approach he was like "not yet...not yet...not yet... not yet..."
I just had this happen to me a few days ago. I flew out to do a touch-and-go at a small airport, and when I came back, I fell victim to my airport's wider runway. The stall horn squawked at me for a second or two before I dropped a few feet on the runway. It wasn't my best landing, but it definitely wasn't my worst lol.
First time I ever landed at a Bravo was KMSP and they put me on Runway 12R which is 200 feet wide and this got me. Thankfully not to the extreme as happened here but I felt like I was in the flare forever than then touched down firmer than normal. Learned my lesson that day.
Whenever I made a hard landing, I would wince and look at my CFI asking if I broke the airplane. He always asked "Is your back okay? ... then the plane is fine."
One thing to be wary of about the second option of adding some throttle to float a bit and salvage the landing is to ensure you've got long enough runway.
Exactly. You must ensure you have enough runway. Otherwise it has to be a go around.
Had this problem just recently - used to a 75ft wide runway, visual illusion on a 150ft runway got me off. Next time got it dialed in and didn't flare soon enough at my home airport 75ft!
Got solo sign off to the big runway, been practicing on both so I can adjust for those variations. Going back and forth has helped a lot to not "over fit" for one set of training conditions.
Also funniest comment was the person who said they bounced it and on the next lap tower replied "cleared bounce and go, runway 25."
Damn those Cessna landing gears can take a beating
I didn't like the look of the approach, but wasn't sure if it's the camera angle. The last time I did this was at night.
With runway available, the soft field is the safest landing technique. The trick to keeping some power all the way down is to use the flaps that are there so you can land slowly and softly with power and slow down on short final using the apparent rate of closure with the desired touchdown spot Wolfgang talks about and you use every time you decelerate into an intersection with your automobile. We can fly slow safely with flaps and we can fly slower with power than without if we pitch up to slow down. If on short final coming into high ground effect we are going so fast we have to cut power and so fast that more pitch up with some power causes climb, we are going way too fast to quit flying in one inch ground effect. Vso, an out of ground effect number is irrelevant here. Power controls rate of descent all the way down if slow enough. Power saves. LOC for whatever reason cannot be deadly at 35 or so actual quit flying in low ground effect with power airspeed. Our old trainers airspeed indicator was on the peg and should be. Some newer ones will show something, but it has little meaning. Feel the airplane. Feel the dynamic throttle. Feel, even wiggle the elevator. Feel longitudinal alignment with your happy feet. With appropriate power and pitch, the airplane can be controlled all the way down and we do not have to be a passenger in a long hold off from too much airspeed. If you get too slow you will mush. Good, you are getting there, Add a little more power to find the earth in a three point attitude all slowed up and ready to squat.
He definitely practiced landings in a skinnier runway before this😂
Only flying LSAs (I think thats what its called in the USA) my CFI took me to an army field to let me experience this illusion. usually AWACS are landing at this airport. The first final approach he was like "not yet...not yet...not yet... not yet..."
I just had this happen to me a few days ago. I flew out to do a touch-and-go at a small airport, and when I came back, I fell victim to my airport's wider runway. The stall horn squawked at me for a second or two before I dropped a few feet on the runway. It wasn't my best landing, but it definitely wasn't my worst lol.
My instructor would have me pull the power as soon as we knew the runway was made.
It’s a pretty crazy! 45 degrees at 5000ft, 20 degrees on the surface
1:48 😅me IN flight sim 2024
That’s a 150ft wide runway, wide as hell, I made the same mistake at muskoka once
Funniest title ever😂
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should they have kept the power in for a bit longer?
your mic level sounds great, make note of mic levels and mimic those every video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!