+repoman_71 Sure does, this is my all time favorite powertrain. I'll let you know when I upload a video of a 1992 Gillig Phantom I rode last month with the same exact powertrain.
TheCRTman I have never ridden on a Gillig, but i heard good things about them. The only buses i have ridden on with the two stroke Detroits were GM New Looks and MCI Classics. The Classics i have ridden on have the 6V92TA with Allison V731, VR731.
repoman_71 Gillig Phantoms are very good buses, but the Gillig Low Floors and BRTs aren't so good. The older Gillig Low Floors aren't too bad, but not as good as Phantoms. Oh okay. I like the 6V71N/Allison V730 a lot and the 8V71N/Allison VS2-8. When it comes to 6V92TA's, I prefer it with an Allison HT series transmission.
TheCRTman I would like to ride on a Phantom but I might have to go out west to ride on one. The NovaBUS Classic is a great bus but a LFS is shit compared to it. The older second gens (Pre 2009) are good buses but will never be as great as a Classic, I would rather ride on one of those than a Third or Fourth gen or a overrated shitbox called the cough cough Xcelsior.
repoman_71 Some places out here still run some 90's Phantoms, but they are retiring all of the time. Nova Classics and RTS's are cool, but I hate all LFS's. Junkcelsiors are overrated indeed.
man, I remember that day lol. I miss these new flyers roaring together with the old MAN coaches up and down both Geary/Third Streets... THAT BUZZARD FOR LOW AIR THOUGH!!!
+megamanjoe Yeah that was an unforgettable night! I uploaded the longer audio only video a couple days after we did this though. Yeah originally I didn't know why it was buzzing, but it was because of the low air for sure. I cannot wait to ride 4574 whenever it comes out.
My heart skipped a beat at 1:25... XD What an awesome bus!! So glad that they preserved one of these. You are one lucky dude to have gotten a ride on it! Great footage too. I still have yet to ride a 6V92-powered bus. That sound reminds me of my school bus stop back in like 2006-7. The school bus itself wasn't really anything of interest, but everyday I would see a PACE (Chicago suburbs) early 90s Orion I go by, with that distinct 6V92 roar. Sadly I never got to ride one of those buses. Always loved how you could hear it before you could see it!
Mine skipped when it fired up right before I turned on the recorder. XDDD Thanks man and yeah, it was a dream come true to ride it. Ohh man I know those Orion I's must have sounded niiice. He have 1 preserved at Muni and it may be coming out this year. 9010. 9030 is a mobile command center at Muni, but it isn't ever moved.
So is muni giving up on the 9120 restoration? Any hope for 7031, im really disapointed in how terrible they decided to store them doubt we will ever see a new flyer d40/60 series run in muni livery again....
1986 Gillig is from Torrance,Ca . (Torrance Transit),1993 Neoplan AN345 in Houston, Tx. (Metro) and the 1990 Orion V from New Orleans(NORTA). Stewart and Stevenson Apollo T 40 in Houston, Texas. (1988).
To recap we had the 1988 40 foot Stevenson & Stevenson T 40 buses in Houston, Texas that sound the same way and our 1987 Ikarus Model 416 buses too. 1986 Neoplan AN 430 buses .
The 1989 Stewart and Stevenson Apollo T35 bus the two demos in New Orleans sound like that too especially at Highway speeds . Mix with the MAN bus transmission .
you can't silence the beast the 6V92TA analog or DDEC Detroit diesel engine will be loud and proud the crab azz Cummins and caterpillar engines got nothing compare with this power monster it's the engine what powered the mcimc9 series mc12 96 A3 or 102 A3 coach 102 DL3 102 C3 and most transit buses like gillig phantom neoplan-an440 orion V series ikarus 416 and they came with the HTB 748 and HT 740 Allison transmission even the new flyer D900 series the flxible metro buses grumman flxible 870 buses GMC fish bowl buses and rapid transit series buses with V730 and V731 Allison transmission and GMC -MCI -NOVA classic transit buses were equipped with that combination
+Thuam X Yeah I've heard about that as well. It was a common flaw with the early D60's. Two of the E60's artic sections broke in half. Even after all of that, they were still great buses.
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This bus sounds like music, i can listen to it all day and never get bored of it. Too bad that they will never make buses like this ever again.
+repoman_71 Sure does, this is my all time favorite powertrain. I'll let you know when I upload a video of a 1992 Gillig Phantom I rode last month with the same exact powertrain.
TheCRTman
I have never ridden on a Gillig, but i heard good things about them. The only buses i have ridden on with the two stroke Detroits were GM New Looks and MCI Classics. The Classics i have ridden on have the 6V92TA with Allison V731, VR731.
repoman_71 Gillig Phantoms are very good buses, but the Gillig Low Floors and BRTs aren't so good. The older Gillig Low Floors aren't too bad, but not as good as Phantoms.
Oh okay. I like the 6V71N/Allison V730 a lot and the 8V71N/Allison VS2-8. When it comes to 6V92TA's, I prefer it with an Allison HT series transmission.
TheCRTman I would like to ride on a Phantom but I might have to go out west to ride on one. The NovaBUS Classic is a great bus but a LFS is shit compared to it. The older second gens (Pre 2009) are good buses but will never be as great as a Classic, I would rather ride on one of those than a Third or Fourth gen or a overrated shitbox called the cough cough Xcelsior.
repoman_71 Some places out here still run some 90's Phantoms, but they are retiring all of the time. Nova Classics and RTS's are cool, but I hate all LFS's. Junkcelsiors are overrated indeed.
10:38 I was DEAD 🔊😆🙃💀
Hahahaha so was I, and somehow I was the only one who recorded that part. I think only 1 other person filmed a little bit.
I might hav passed out BECUASE it has a loud ass hell EXAUST MAN I WAS LIKE 😂😱😱😱😮😮😮😮👌
man, I remember that day lol. I miss these new flyers roaring together with the old MAN coaches up and down both Geary/Third Streets...
THAT BUZZARD FOR LOW AIR THOUGH!!!
+megamanjoe Yeah that was an unforgettable night! I uploaded the longer audio only video a couple days after we did this though. Yeah originally I didn't know why it was buzzing, but it was because of the low air for sure. I cannot wait to ride 4574 whenever it comes out.
My heart skipped a beat at 1:25... XD
What an awesome bus!! So glad that they preserved one of these. You are one lucky dude to have gotten a ride on it! Great footage too. I still have yet to ride a 6V92-powered bus.
That sound reminds me of my school bus stop back in like 2006-7. The school bus itself wasn't really anything of interest, but everyday I would see a PACE (Chicago suburbs) early 90s Orion I go by, with that distinct 6V92 roar. Sadly I never got to ride one of those buses. Always loved how you could hear it before you could see it!
Mine skipped when it fired up right before I turned on the recorder. XDDD
Thanks man and yeah, it was a dream come true to ride it.
Ohh man I know those Orion I's must have sounded niiice. He have 1 preserved at Muni and it may be coming out this year. 9010. 9030 is a mobile command center at Muni, but it isn't ever moved.
Orion V buses in New Orleans too from 1990
It sounds angry as hell for interrupting it's deep slumber!!!
MUNI also preserves one of their 1990 Orion I's. It uses the same 6V92/HTB748 powertrain.
+ClassicTVMan1981X 9010 is officially preserved, but 9030 is still sitting at Woods Division. I'm hoping someone could buy it.
TheCRTman
I wish you could ride 9010 one of these days, along with 9030.
ClassicTVMan1981X This was a pretty lucky ride. 9010 is wrapped up. Not sure if 9030 will ever be moved around. I'll keep you updated though.
TheCRTman
OK.
ClassicTVMan1981X they sound the same way too.
rip d60 it was my best bus
Ya
So is muni giving up on the 9120 restoration? Any hope for 7031, im really disapointed in how terrible they decided to store them doubt we will ever see a new flyer d40/60 series run in muni livery again....
I remember AC Transit did the same thing too.
I literally fell asleep listening to this bus, and dream about being on it and it kept breaking in half crashing in an explosion.
Lol
Pre 1991 Gillig Phantom and the 1993 Neoplan AN 440 .
Which agency?
1986 Gillig is from Torrance,Ca . (Torrance Transit),1993 Neoplan AN345 in Houston, Tx. (Metro) and the 1990 Orion V from New Orleans(NORTA). Stewart and Stevenson Apollo T 40 in Houston, Texas. (1988).
Houston Metro and Torrance Transit
Sound like a 1990 Orion V bus.
From which agency?
New Orleans RTA
TheCRTman The motor sound like a Stewart & Stevenson T40 bus from 1988- 1992 from Houston and Los Angeles.
Think they used the same powertrain.
@@lesliemiros6743I miss New Orleans RTA Orion V 1990 127-139
To recap we had the 1988 40 foot Stevenson & Stevenson T 40 buses in Houston, Texas that sound the same way and our 1987 Ikarus Model 416 buses too. 1986 Neoplan AN 430 buses .
The 1989 Stewart and Stevenson Apollo T35 bus the two demos in New Orleans sound like that too especially at Highway speeds . Mix with the MAN bus transmission .
if you listen closely the newer new flyers sound like a much quieter version of this sound.
If you mean Xcelsiors, then not even close...
TheCRTman I feel Ike I have to try a little bit harder with my ears to hear the sound that the new flyer xcelsior bus makes when it operates
They sound like crap
That's because they're basically forced to use Cummins engines.
now there cellections in the yard:(
1977-1980 GMC RTS II and TMC version at Highway speeds.
The lights flickering in and off make this bus ride kind of nightmarish.
Like the spongebob episode hash slinging slasher xD
d60 was retired before e60
Because those d60's came out in 1991 and e60's came out in 1994.
i rid alot of times
Cool.
i was born in 1996
Cool
Did this one got a Air-Starter?
Yep, I didn't get it on camera tho
i rid this bus before
Windows 95 boot up sound
Nawwww Windows 96
@@TheCRTman
Came from 95 though. They carried it through until about 2000 we believe.
you can't silence the beast the 6V92TA analog or DDEC Detroit diesel engine will be loud and proud the crab azz Cummins and caterpillar engines got nothing compare with this power monster it's the engine what powered the mcimc9 series mc12 96 A3 or 102 A3 coach 102 DL3 102 C3 and most transit buses like gillig phantom neoplan-an440 orion V series ikarus 416 and they came with the HTB 748 and HT 740 Allison transmission even the new flyer D900 series the flxible metro buses grumman flxible 870 buses GMC fish bowl buses and rapid transit series buses with V730 and V731 Allison transmission and GMC -MCI -NOVA classic transit buses were equipped with that combination
Yep
I heard these buses couldn't be on the freeway routes towards the end of their service lives because they fish tale.
+Thuam X Yeah I've heard about that as well. It was a common flaw with the early D60's. Two of the E60's artic sections broke in half. Even after all of that, they were still great buses.
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? lol
i bate you wish you own that one ha ?
+the electronic man Nah, not an artic. I'd rather own an early 80's Gillig Phantom.
The 1980-1991 Gillig Phantom used to sound like that too.