Behringer UMC204HD - Using The Inserts
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Finally ... Someone who made what I needed. Thanks a lot
I'm so glad i was able to help!! :)
I was searching for the answer but couldn't find it anywhere. Thank you so much for your clear explanation!
The fact that both channels have seperate effects is amazing! I didn't know that when I bought it and I would never had known without this video, thank you!
Thank you Eric. This was wildly helpful. Just got a UMC404HD and had no idea what those did. Thanks again.
Perfect. This was exactly what I needed to know about using my pedals. Short, easy to understand and to the point! Thank you.
Thank you I can now destroy my frieds' hearing plugging in a ds1 while I'm on discord
I use mine with the insert 2 dedicated to my Cranborne EC-1 preamp/headphone amp. Great little interface for the money.
finally, somebody who can explain in less than 5 minutes
Eric, Thanks a million you explained this clearer than anyone else on RUclips!
OMG !!
I racked my brain on how to use the inserts because I thought they were just returns and I was looking for a way to get the signal out of the interface.
I truly had the enlightenment of my LIFE when you put the adapters together
lol
No shit, you saved my day xD
Pro tip: bypassing the Behringer's preamps for less noise when recording line level devices: Use standard ts cable and plug about 80% into the insert jack (so that the tip of the cable touches the ring of the jack which is the return input).
Or, if you dare, cut off those heads and put on a TRS, and solder to the R & S !
Excellent review, this kind of information about the inserts sometimes is very difficult to find for us, the novices in audio hardware. Maybe this kind of connections for inserts are common in professional audio, but is new for us. Thanks!
Simple, clear and to the point. Thank you
Straight to the point, clear & VERY helpful - thank you! 👏👏🙂
Thanks so much for this. I've got the UMC404HD which is the same but with 2 more channels
Very Clear you should have WAY MORE LIKES!!!
Good to finally know what those are for. I don't understand the advantage of using the insert as opposed to simply direct-lining a chain directly into the front input jack -- for instance, 1/4" from guitar to pedal, 1/4' from pedal to input 1. As I write this though I imagine it might be convenient for some setups to simply have the outboard effects set up via the insert and to swap gear in the front input without having to fuss with it. In any case thanks for the info!
If you use outboard gear like compressors and eq then you'd prefer to have them as inserts so all you habe to do is plug whatever Mic you want into the interface. It has its advantages in keeping signal chain a bit more clean and convenient for swapping stuff. Specially since most outboard uses line ins and outs anyway.
@@EricFaries Yes, it makes complete sense now -- this could save a lot of time and keep things clean, organized, and efficient when in workflow. Nothing worse than having to crawl behind the rack to fiddle with I/O's every time you want to swap a mic.
@@jccpiano So the only advantage is not to have to plug stuff in the front but in the back? No other benefits? Not worth the extra 30 bucks for me I guess.
Your's the only video that goes straight to the point and answers how to plug the pedal into a interface. Today I bought an adapter, but it didn't work without the TRS cable.
if you have 3.5 mm normal sound cables you can use them with small 3.5 to quarter inch adapters as well. The cable can be a 3.5 mm one instead of a quarter inch TRS one.
THANK You this helped me understand how to use this thing way better!
Hey, thanks! I was looking for this everywhere.
Wow I always wondered. Thank you
thanks for this! short and on point!
that was an excellent tutorial brother!
so well explained!
peace n` love x
I was actually wondering what they were for and how they work. Thanks
Thank you so much!!
Thank you!
Thank you for this. I've read a few articles, but the configuration didn't click until you succinctly yet thoroughly explained it in this video.
Anyone know if this can then be utilized as an external audio effect in Ableton?
best explanation, all videos i saw before that one were like 30 minutes, i just want to know how to do it ! thanks !!
many thanks for info!
Nice, simple and straight to the point. I was wondering, you were using guitar compression padel. Do you use it for vocal recording? If yes, please share in which extend you are having compression effect on voice recording. This particular advantage of this unit is intriguing me. Cheers..
Man, this is beyond awsome
I was scratching my head wondering what I'd use the inserts for then I remembered I have an Alesis 3630 compressor sitting in the closet. Gonna try it out for my streaming mic when the insert cables get here in a few days.
You still alive? I just got a 3630 but having trouble running it through my UMC204 interface. The LED lights are active, but only when I use the MAIN OUT L/R jacks instead of the 1 & 2 inserts (I get no signal from the 3630)
I’ve tried in FL Studio 20 and Ableton Live 11. I get signal when using MAIN OUT but when I fiddle with the knobs on the 3630, nothing changes at all. It’s not bypassed but it sounds like it is
Edit: the insert cable im using is a dual red/black one, if that makes any difference
@@lavenderllamamusic Hard to say, just know that the inserts will not affect computer playback only the inputs. If you are trying to use the 3630 to compress the output from the pc then the main outs would make sense.
Thank you so much for your clear explanation!
TY!
Great job ! Thank you for the video and details !
Great help!
Simple and useful.
So in a general sense it works the same way a real amp set up would. Where in the preamp in this case instead of an actual amp is the interface and The difference is the back part works somewhat like a dedicated input for fx or can even function as an fx loop
Why did it take me so long to find this video! Been scratching my head for ages trying to work this out. You are a star, thanks
Very helpful information. Thanks!
Thank you. 👍🖖
Very, very useful, indeed. Thank you very much.
Tengo una mezcladora XENYX Q802USB y por medio de ella puedo escuchar música que tengo en alta resolución en Mila computadora. Pero la interfaz solo permite audio de 16 bit/48 kHz. En el caso de la UMC204HD, ¿es posible escuchar audio procedente de Windows por la salida de audífonos de la interfaz a 192 kHz?
I need help guys🤦🏾♂️ I have a UMC404HD and a Xenyx Behringer CONTROL2USB I want to run audio out of my monitors using the Control 2 and record audio threw the UMC404HD anyone know how to do this ?
I love how it is so quiet even on C1
Omg how can I have never known about that to be possible?! So many opportunities! Hahha
Thank you!!!
Very well explained!
That was very informative 🍻
This was super useful, thanks!
Can I use it for an expression pedal to control it with softwares like guitar rig?
very useful vid. question: can you use it with stereo effect?
Thank you! That´s what I was looking for :)
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Appreciate your great tutorials!!! Great clips!!! Have you already tried to connect the Digitech Trio+ to the Behringer UMC204HD? Would be soooo interested!!!!
But what if I want to use the same effects unit on insert 1 & 2? Or if I want to use multiple effects for let's say insert 1? Would I have to buy a unit that has multiple effects already in it or is it possible to connect several single units to insert 1 with some sort of special cables?
Excellent explanation thank you 👍😁🎸
Very helpful, thank you!
I understand that for microphones it is needed because the signal is too low before reaching the preamp.
In the case of guitars, is there any advantage of using inserts for your fx chain, instead of just going guitar > pedalboard > interface?
Not really. The effect will basically be the same in most cases, since the signal is getting effected before it records.
@@EricFaries Thanks! Good to know.
Thanks bro..
THANKS FOR THE INFO , IT WAS EXCELENT
This video really helped!!! Keep doing videos like this!!! I will suscribe just for this video
I can't get his interface working in windows. I have REALLY low mic input volume. +48 on Pad OFF
I have both the UMC22 and this. The former has full loud mic input @9 oclock and the UMC204HD has barely any Mic input volume with the gain all the way up.
I have tired the ASIO drivers, Re-installing windows (1903) and loads of other troubleshooting,
Are you running 1809?
Very informative! Thanks! 👍🏻
thanks for this tutorial, very helpfull.
i have a question, what if the behringer umc204hd with tc helicon harmony singer, how its the set up ?
thanks so much.
Thanks : )
Can we Connect two Condenser Microphons at a time with Phantom Power on .... in "Behringer U-Phoria UMC204HD"? and record as Stereo in Cubase pro
Yes, the phantom power can give power to both microphone jacks, and they can be recorded as stereo in your DAW
thank you!
The device manual does not explain how to connect it. You have helped me a lot. Thank you.
Yeah that's honestly why i did the video. Felt weird that a pretty good feature would get barely anything in the manual as to how to use it.
Can I ask your help a bit? I'm still super confused :D so I'm beginner at all this, but the setup I'm trying to put together would be 2 lines:
A - Behringer Crave + Behringer Superfuzz + JOYO R-09 VISION + Zoom - MS-70CDR reverb
B - Arturia Keylab Essential 88
Line A would make a base drone music kinda ambient music/noise, and I would use the keyboard to play the melody on the top. Later I would also like to add some kind of drum machine or sample. So my question... how do I connect all these? Is the UMC204HD suitable to then have all these connected into my computer / recording device (Zoom H1n)? Should I connect the keyboard into my laptop directly, and the other stuff through the interface? How do I use this setup without a laptop? (live set)
If the UMC204HD is not suitable, then can you suggest me something else?
(also known as a standard stereo breakout cable...)
what's the benefit of this vs just running your signal through the pedal into the input?
Will this differ from routing your guitar through the pedal, then into the input of the interface?
I have the same question. If I have 5 pedals, do I use insert, or I go straight in after my last pedal?
Nice video! do you happen to know if the insert is before or after the internal pre-amp in the UMC204HD?
What if the pedal only has a stereo out?
Genial, súper bien explicado 😊
+++REP!!! thx, i searching this answer, very long... thx bro)
감사합니다^^ 한국에서 404hd를 쓰는 사용자 입니다. 너무 쉬운 설명에 큰 도움이 됐습니다.. 먼리 한국에서 (korea) 인사 드림
Google translate to the rescue hehe. I'm so glad you found this video helpful :)
can you chain the pedals before sending it back the insert? like for example:
Insert>Compressor>Chorus>Delay>Reverb>Back to Insert
Absolutely! This is actually one of the many reasons why having (and using) a proper effects loop (insert) is so much preferable to simply adding effects directly to the instrument, or even worse, the mic signal:
- If you chain many pedals before the preamp (front side input on the Behringer), all the noise, interferences and the quality loss affects the (weak) signal before any amplification has taken place. These disturbances thus have a much greater impact on your recording signal. An effects loop, on the other hand, operates at line level, which is quite a bit louder than an electric guitar output and much louder than a mic signal. The interferences produced by your effects chain should be negligible to this line signal amplitude.
- Some effects like compression or limiters (the ones that affect the amplitude of a signal) are usually set up to work with line-level input signals. A guitar signal might still work, but probably not optimally. However, a mic signal is definitely not suited as an input signal for these effects. If you look at channel strips for mic signal processing (e.g., dbx 286 s), the signal is always preamplified first to bring it up to line level and then processed further.
- If you use standard effects pedals before the preamp, you sacrifice any chance of getting a balanced input signal from your instrument/mic to your interface. Effect loops use unbalanced connections (standard mono with one ground and one hot wire) by default. Since working at line level, they are relatively robust against interferences (see above), even for long cable connections and many serial throughputs. Again, this might not be of great importance for a guitar signal, but for microphones, this would mean that you would have to use an XLR-to-mono-jack adapter cable, which converts the balanced mic signal to an unbalanced one, which you would plug into your effects chain. If you use this as an input signal to the interface and amplify it with the gain appropriate for a mic-level signal, you will get MUCH more noise and interferences on your recording signal.
Also, I think some interfaces by default assume a different input level for XLR vs. jack (TRS) plug, since usually an XLR corresponds to a mic and a jack corresponds to a guitar or other instrument. So you might even have to convert back from mono-jack to XLR before inserting it into the interface input. Total nightmare!
Very nice
you saved my day :D
Hi great video thx...one question is possible conect avdio receiver to Behringer UMC204HD. I have 2 studio monitor connect into main out L and R. But I would also listen to tapes through a Sony receiver it is also possible connect Sony receiver? thx
Thanks , man!
question. when i dont plug in headphones, and try to record. I cant listen to the tape or track later oN?
In my interface are line outputs. What is this?
Hello sir can ask a question? the umc 204hd, it is possible to connect with the mixer thanks...
With only Ring is possible bypass internal preamp and to use one external preamp?
Please can you help me? If I buy the bluesky reverb pedal can I connect it straight into the insert of the umc404hd with only a insert cable?
my berhinger interface does nit show any clip signal lights when i connect an input, can you help me out...but the output works well when i monitor it from my pc
I'll not use the insert as it would result in an extra DA/AD conversion and degrade the signal.
Thanks for clarifying. I have a umc404hd with 4 inserts. Nowhere in Behringers user manual does it describe how to use the inserts. Not even a diagram. But hey what else is new from behringer.
i thought it was for line inputs where i can record guitars/bass or any instruments that can be plugged in
I need help! I just got an Alesis 3630 compressor, but having trouble running it through my UMC204 interface. The LED lights are active, but only when I use the MAIN OUT L/R jacks instead of the 1 & 2 inserts (I get no signal from the 3630)
I’ve tried in FL Studio 20 and Ableton Live 11. I get signal when using MAIN OUT but when I fiddle with the knobs on the 3630, nothing changes at all. It’s not bypassed but it sounds like it is
Edit: the insert cable im using is a dual red/black one, if that makes any difference
Why my monitor sounds really small when i playback the recording? the monitor volume already high, I use samsung smarthphone headset with jeck converter to connect at Monitor port (beside the master volume and mix) .. plesse help, thankyou
I want to plug in a record player with stereo sound. For this i want to use the direct monitor function, what is the best wat to plug in the record player?
great tutorial. thank you. is there a way to connect an insert reverb to hear it singing but not record it on the daw?
Hello I have umc404HD and compressor Klark teknik 76KT. I want to use klark teknik as a"plugin" in pro tools. I tried this chain but i couldnt run it. Can you please help me with that to run it please? Thank you So much.
я так сзади заглушку воткнул, простой переходник с маленького джека на большой - пустышку - в итоге у меня 1 вход перестал работать)) те 1 вход просто отрубило, как убрал этот переходник - все на свои места стало)))
I have this exact interface model but I was wondering if there is a way to use an expression pedal with it through this Inserts. The thing is, I want to use digital wahwah but I don't know if there is a way to use an expression pedal connected to the Beringher interface to do this
Is it possiple to use the Insert as an Input for an mono line source?
I'm glad to see this before I could brick my UMC 204....
Possible to send playback through pc through insert fx?