The world of the modern workplace is SEVERELY flawed. I found it extremely difficult to find my first job out of college, but thankfully I was able to get my foot in the door with a tech company. In that role, I was treated poorly, given overnight hours, and denied any promotion or raise in pay. Shockingly, people who just happened to "know someone" ended up getting promoted like it was no problem. My college degree was utterly insignificant.
I graduated with a Bachelors in Communications and was the very first hired at The Wall Street Journal straight out of school. Why? Because I had more experience than my other classmates. NBC-TV, NBC-RADIO, Brown University Radio, College Newspaper, College Radio, Providence Journal...and yes I knew a group of Professional Radio Account Executives who met each month and took me on sales calls and client promotions. The adults liked my ambitiousness so much that three years after when I was at the Wall Street Journal in New England the "know someone" people invited me to work with them at a Radio Station in TX. Fortunately I was born with no fingers, so I can't point at someone else for not having success in college.😎 FYI, My mother was ashamed at my low GPA when I graduated, but The Wall Street Journal jumped the line to hire me because of my hustle. You Need Hustle!!!!
@therealvidadi LOL.... No one has ever done anything good for me in terms of helping me to obtain employment or further my career and anyone who tries is either wasting my time with 🐂💩😅 or crazy and if I listen to them, they would just help me to screw myself over at this point in life. 😂 The problem here is an obvious nonsense question that got old a long time ago. There are a ton of jobs that require you to basicaly claim some kind of experience, when actually obtaining varafiable
The thing is having a degree in and of itself doesn’t add value lol 😂 you have to demonstrate that there is value in it via work experience(should be paid but lol) ... this is the problem today everyone thinks amassing degrees means they should be guaranteed a certain level of pay ... the other problem is that tons of jobs that should never have required degrees like sales jobs that have been around for thousands of years now require em
He’s applying in the medicine field work experience is very much required across the world in that field same with law and mental health too. They need you to prove you can actually practically do the job and not just memorise answers and write a good paper
NEVER work for free for any amount of time, NEVER ask to reduce your salary b/c "you don't have enough experience", the don't care about experience, you will be taught at the job, the dump HR person puts EVERYTHING they can jam in the job posting without even thinking. Apply to 50 jobs, get interviewed at 10, get second interview at 3, take 1. That's it
Well atleast you’re not getting physically damaged. I have prolapse for the rest of my life, and ruined hair for life. I get paid less and have to be disfigured for years so shut up it’s not forever.
Please tell these young entrepreneurs this. There are people actually saying people over profits....nobody works just to go home and say, hmmm that client that didn't pay sure did contribute to my light bill getting paid.
@Alexander Worley So true, at least talking with someone via interview will help both you and them realize what they actually want from someone in the position, and see if it is a good fit
Heck, all the requirements are just preferences. Pretend they don't exist if you think you can do the job. What does an interview and rejection cost you anyway. If you get an interview without having the requirements, that means something.
Im in HR. To a degree, youre correct. But at least be realistic. Dont be a non experienced new grad wirh 0 experience applying for a supervisor level position. But applying for a job needing 5 yrs experience but you have 1-2 yrs experience, then thats at least understandable. And of course if someone in hiring team/Manager refers you, thats a whole different game and basically choice is yours.
@@robertc6293 but to be honest during the interview process the employers want you to answer their questions the way they want them to be answered. This doesnt give applicants with disabilities a fair shot. Autistic employees actually outperform non autistic ones in tech but they got thru on behalf of a special programme. I do know for a fact employers prefer non disabled and non special needs applicants its pretty sad and its hard to file a discrimination case against employers. And the workforce does need a variety and wide selection of disabled employees. I have autism and iv applied to at least 50 and with voluntary experience but im unable to answer their interview questions the right way. But i do online video game streams on twitch and try to make a living that way im my own boss.
@@steve00alt70 Yes some of these scenario interview questions are very stupid, i agree. Even me being in HR , doesnt mean i know id ace every interview. Its honestly an acting audition; like you said you rehearse what you know they want to hear 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ But yeah there will never ever be a perfect system for hiring unforrunately.
Work experience is worth more than a degree in my opinion. I worked in my university lab before my internship at a local hospital. Before that I worked at a beauty supply store for the first 3 years of my college career. Got a job during the recession before I graduated. Now I am transitioning to accounting and I’m not leaving school with an internship or a entry level part time job
Probably nine of ten entry level hires we made were former interns of ours. That face time is invaluable. The colleges will tell you "oh, you need more degrees". Nothing could be further from the truth.
What I've learned at my job, with more of the internal postings, even if you don't meet all the requirements, apply anyway. Chances are you'll still get asked to interview and get the job because many didn't apply due to the thinking they don't fit all the criteria.
@@Jumperman12mac the only job I’ve ever gotten without a “connection” was my usaf enlistment...maxed out the test and got to pick my specialty. Four careers later I just retired.
I saw a job advertised once that required a qualification which, at the time, did not exist - they wanted RSA Level 3 in Information Technology - the highest RSA did was Level 2, which is a diploma - anything higher than a diploma in this country (the U.K.) entitles me to put the title Dr or Professor in front of my name or letters after it - I applied with my Level 2, thinking that it was a typo - only to be told that they actually WERE looking for someone with Level 3 qualifications! Good luck finding someone with those non-existent qualifications, I said to myself! I can only assume a few things: The vacancy was not filled; The applicant who was successful produced forged documents; The employers eventually realised that there was no RSA 3 and settled for an RSA 2 - whatever, I still didn’t get the job! Employers’ definition of experience is so many years of unbroken and uninterrupted and continuous experience - employers are largely training-shy and don’t consider training schemes as training sources - which is precisely what they are - you can’t get experience from an employer when they won’t take a punt on people who have no experience - training courses only provide you with about 12 weeks of experience - then you have to wait 18 months to do another one - how are you meant to get five years of unbroken experience when training schemes not only provide you with three months at a time and aren’t recognised by employers, despite the job centre’s adamant claims to the contrary?
It’s well known in IT circles (at least) that job descriptions are a wishlist at best. Sometimes the requirements are literally impossible, like having 10 years experience in something that has not existed for that long. Gotta put your time in and work your way up, even with a masters degree.
@@larrisalewis8558 to get paid labour you need work experience so he may need to volunteer and then get a job he doesn’t want to then get the job he does
@@Defrap22 our professors lied about a degree is essential its just so they could get paid teaching it. The truth is i never used my maths grade E ever not even primary school level.
this is a great topic, I used to work in a factory making roof trusses and wanted to learn to design them so I could move up the ladder. after a few months of asking I offered to go over to the design office on Friday afternoons (we used to finish at 1pm on a Friday and the office worked until 5) so that one of the designers could show me the ropes and give feedback on if I was going to be competent. eventually another designer went on maternity and I was offered the chance to design on a temporary basis. this became permanent, and after a few years I now run my own department selling and designing roof trusses and engineered joists.
Everyone thinks a degree is the answer to everything until you slapped in the face with loans and stuck not getting a job, connections with the right people truly gets you places
job listing for entry level “ Social Media Manager” requirements: 10 years of experience another 5 years. 3. Different certifications : meanwhile job really didn’t exist 8-10 years ago
Medical jobs are cutthroat. He needs to take a hospital job which may not be necessarily in his field just to get a foot in the door. Then he can ask around and network that way
I wish people did more research on stuff like this before signing up for more debt. I'm surprised he didn't do any internships or co-ops before graduating.
@@esonon5210 solid points but just throwing this out there my step mom is actually doing that, full time job, mom of 4, with my dad (works full time) and she just got a degree and is going for her masters in it
@@esonon5210 That's definitely not true. Life doesn't stop just because you're in Grad school. I'm getting my MPH and I'm helping take care of my grandma (83, Cancer Survivor, COPD, Anxiety, Dementia, plus a lot more). On top of that, I was taking 15 graduate credits, I had a full time internship, a Teaching Assistantship for 3 classes, and PhD and job applications. Then in the middle of this semester I had to drive 7 hours by myself to do all of that *and* take care of my mom for a month while she was in surgery, and take care of my two adopted brothers who were in hybrid school. Oh yeah, all this during a pandemic. Never underestimate what life can do. Stop thinking just because people are in school they don't have to deal with real life.
They’re right but at the same time, these guys are definitely of a different generation and don’t understand the tech heavy era. There is absolutely a lack of communication from employers.
My supervisor said he wasn't going to hire me until I called to follow up my interview. He said that he thought it showed drive. And I really wanted and needed this job
Get into sales. Specifically medical sales for a cardiac department. AED’s and stuff like that. Will give you practical experience in the field as you learn about your products and how they work
^^excellent advice. And old classmate of mine got her master's in ex phys just like this guy on the show. She didn't love just doing group ex classes so moved into medical sales and she slays it there. Awesome career and it's way less stressful then typical sales jobs
Keep in mind, when employers post job listings, the "perfect" candidate would be the one who checks all the boxes for experience, background, etc. However, no one is perfect so don't be afraid if you are missing one or two things asking from a job listing. If you have 8 qualities out of the 10 they're asking for, apply!
I'd recommend trying to get either an assistantship or an internship for next semester. A really good way that I don't think students utilize that much is just asking your professors if they know anyone looking for internship work. They always know someone!
My advice would be to look at per diem work (vacation, weekend, maternity, etc) and ask around for clinics that specialize in hiring new grads. You got this.
College degrees are little more than certificates that say you are dedicated enough to spend your time on something. Also Mike Rowe had an excellent talk about this, degrees are mearly filters to keep people from over saturating certain markets. the best example i can think of is lawyers, you used to just intern out of high school at a fellowship and in 4 years do your lsat and boom youre a lawyer
My professors have NEVER said that college would get you a job. They have only mentioned that it’s a great opportunity for potential. I was lucky enough to work temporarily at a state job right after college with my bachelors degree and experience working at a restaurant.
I applied to hundreds of companies to get my internship and another couple hundred for a full time. My internship did offer a full time position but I did not want to stay in that field. Dont get discouraged getting those rejection emails.
I started by sweeping the floor at the factory I work at. Got hired on full time, finished my degree, got promoted a few times, now making six figures. Too many new graduates expect to start out near the top. Just get in the door, show up, shut up and work.
His Master's doesn't require some kind of field work or clinicals? Just to get into most healthcare programs you have to have some experience (shadowing, volunteering, etc) that should be somewhat relevant when looking for a job, or to at least get his foot in the door.
In some cases your best option can be to try to find a recruiter in your field, whether at a local office or on linkedin and see what they can do for you. I still remember when I was in property management and had managed a 900 unit student housing complex in a small town. I moved to a big city and applied for everything in sight and even though I had reached the manager level at my prior job, no one called back. I finally located a recruiter for the field and went and talked with her and she basically explained that even though I had managed a complex before, it was unproven in most hiring managers' eyes because it was a small town without the hustle and bustle/stress of a large city. Despite that, she got me in the door at a place and I was hired immediately. Had to eat a little bit of salary for the recruiting, but I wound up with a good company that gave me 5 years of experience and several promotions. The other thing is to honestly just apply and get your foot in the door, blow their mind with the interview and if they seem to have any reservation about you not meeting the experience requirements, just let them know you are coachable/teachable. Getting a job is kind of like fishing, you aren't going to catch that much with just one line in the water, have to cast a bunch of lines out and increase your chances, even if you don't meet the qualifications 100% of the time. I applied for an internship once and after the interview they offered me a full time paid position, you just never know, you just have to give yourself a chance to get in front of them. Also, always send a thank you note, email, text, to the HR person that set you up and the person that interviewed you if possible. It's old fashioned, but you'd be surprised with just how far that can go.
Crazy how we go into debt for college just for jobs to tell us we are not experienced. Worst part is, us college graduates can’t even get a interview since most jobs disregard our resumes if we have no experience. Their advice is irrelevant if you can’t even get a interview. And his point about having no marketing experience if you only been to school is wrong, maybe not everybody but a lot of people have skills and abilities beyond what their school education may say or what their resume says.
Lack of experience is a problem I could never solve. Employers just would not hire me. As a result I've never been able to use my degree 10 years out of school. I offered to work for free but employers didn't care. I had no choice but to give up and move on. So my degree is worthless. A terrible shame since I put so much time and money into school. What a waste. I learned a very difficult lesson, NEVER EVER BORROW FOR COLLEGE, NEVER.
What was the internship? I lost my first job after my Associates and was working there for two years. Cosi at a flat bread restaurant, but now I need a new job and the pandemic prior to when I lost work. Never done an internship but I wanted to do one.
I like Ken’s approach to this one. You can work in the organization, make money, and then move into the job you want. Working for free can make for a situation where someone picks you up, takes the free work, and then lets you go. Comprising with Dave I would 100% say the salary for the job you want should be lower if you do not have experience. Then the company is taking much less of a financial risk. As you get experience the salary can climb because you are proving your worth and would potentially go somewhere else if they didn’t give you a boost. But we are talking 1-3 years in depending on the ROI.
working for free means: company has NO skin in the game, all burden on a young person trying to estblish themselves. If a company is well run they CAN make a person with a masters productive right away. and they will be eager to do so because it costs them money from day one.
I was always told that once I got certified, never work for free. I’m just a mechanic. Seems good on paper, but even without experience, you still went through the schooling and the testing to do what you do. I could see the work for free thing working for a creative field to show samples of work or for straight up physical labor to prove you can do the work.
People often realize too late that they should be looking for experience before they graduate. Obviously it isn't possible for all majors, but my first internship was in high school and it was paid minimum wage too. I leveraged that experience and got four more in college and by the fourth and fifth one, both were offering me full-time jobs during the pandemic. And even if they hadn't, I had a full year of actual paid client service in my field under my belt by graduation.
That's why I have no experience. I went to college and I didn't even do internships but I wasn't guided in the internship route of college to get experience because companies won't train you to pay you like they used to. Experience is a big deal and I think having an internship would have made my life a ton easier. At least I had my first job luckily that had nothing to do with internships.
I don't think someone with a masters degree is gonna feel like starting out with a personal trainer job. I don't know what people in the U.S. make but where i live the going rate of a personal trainer is like $12 per hour.
Well as a nurse I have worked in rehab and a lot of therapists have worked at gyms. You build a portfolio with the clients permission knowing that it is like a reference. Post op cardiac patients have long term rehabs. Some use gyms instead as part of their recovery.
I usually dont like to suggest this but in healthcare internships is the way to go, is most likely that you can end up working at the place where you interned.
I really think Dave is a little out of touch on this one. Many employers would get the free labor and if they hire you, would pay you the lowest amount. Having a masters is and working for free is insane.
Offering to work for free for 3-6 months sounds ridiculous to me. I get that Dave would love to see that given that he's an employer himself but come on if you've build up your marketable skills to any reasonable degree during college you shouldn't have to offer yourself up for nothing. And if you really do need to, you're probably in the wrong field or you don't know how to market yourself.
He should have been working as close to the desired field/career as possible all through school. Only doing school, not working concurrently, is a major mistake.
I know someone who got in to cardiac rehab with just a bachelors degree. At UMPC and it’s pays them 50k. They had no post grad experience just did a school related internship there.
@@jurikowhy359 Well this one was required for graduation so it didn’t pay but that’s what I mean for your degree they should require internships which obviously count as experience. But the problem is some of them want post grad experience
To get a job without experience: 1. Create or identify non-work experience that you can promote. (Volunteer work, class projects, organizations works, freelance, etc) 2. Network! Tell everybody you know that you are looking for a job. Tell them what types of jobs and make sure they have a copy of your resume. (Professors, past professors, classmates, advisor, parents, parents friends, your friend parents, and on and on). 3. Don’t be too picky on the jobs you are willing to take, you need some experience. Use it and make the best of it. (Gain skills and keep moving) Even in this case for medical jobs, what about working a summer as a pharmacy tech or lab technician, point is be flexible. Even look for fellowships or other student driven programs. 5. Talk to your university contacts to find out what your options are. I share other tips on my channel, but if you feel like you have zero experience whatsoever, that’s most likely a lie. You have some experience just less. Learn how to highlight the experience you have and use your network! ✌🏾💖
He should have looked at the entry requirements for the job he wanted whilst still at university so he knew what he needed to do whilst he was there for experience or once he graduates to get the job. You can’t just walk out with a degree in a field such as medicine or mental health without work experience that means volunteering or another job that gives you entry into experience
Same here literally business to business saying how good of a worker I am and how well I can prove it and said fire me the day i dont meet your expectations but that day will never come because I always exceed expectations
@@1jw298 no not stores anymore, did same thing with a Electric company once I got older, saw them working. Talked to the owner exchanged information and agreed to take me on as an apprentice.
You just keep applying to jobs and never give up, volunteer if you have to, prove to them that you are worth something and be confident, you can get a job almost anywhere
I have 3 degrees which includes two master degrees with 7 years consecutive experience at management level in Supply Chain Management and I am now a janitor in Canada.
In a different era, working for free to show your worth or the value of your good/service could work but in today’s market you will be working for free for a long time. It’s too easy to extract everything they need out of you at the lowest cost then say you didn’t make the cut. This was the exact reason for federally registered apprenticeships. Too many employers strung people along. When the employees finally demanded a raise for their acquired experience, then they were fired with no way to prove where/how they acquired experience. They had to start from the bottom of a new company at an older age. Be careful working for free.
He probably has job experience but NOT in his field. If he is a a coder, he should have his own projects. Which he may or may not have sold / made money from.
I work as a physiologist in cardiac rehab and from me and others alike, look for a different job. An ex phys degree is unfortunately trash unless you’re looking to use it as a stepping stone into med school or something. You’re topping out at 50k max after 5-10 years of experience unfortunately. It is a fairly laid back job though so take that as you will
I was fortunate to receive college credit for an internship. It really helped me. I think more colleges should offer credit for internships. I had to find the opportunity for myself, but it was worth it.
I just call up several employment agencies when I'm looking for a job. That usually works. What doesn't work is going to a job board website and no one ever calling you. Look up local employment agencies that get jobs you're qualified for, like warehouse, office, medical jobs, etc. Call up several of these agencies. Applying in person doesn't work neither. They will just say apply online and then never call you.
I once had a boss who told me he hires people for the things he cannot train. I have offered to work for free and I was told they couldn't do that because of worker's comp. I was always hired in a very short time. Drive far exceeds degrees. Years ago I bugged my employer to teach me more. That conversation happened about twice a month. Eventually my employer told me I needed to go into business. He told me he would help me get started. Years ago I worked for the top company in America. I did not have an MBA but several others did. My boss who was the VP told me they had a few discussions and did not know what the problem was at one of the branches and why for five years they had been losing money. Two hours after being at the branch I came back with two observations and two recommendations. My boss had been with the company for 23 years and told me he did not know what to do. In two weeks we brought the branch to even and in one year we became the fastest growing and most profitable branch without hiring or firing anyone. Constantly I had conversations with the employees and was open to their suggestions. At the end of the day the employees stood around to see what the sales and production was for the day. They gave me a lot of nice surprises.
You have no idea what its takes to get a Masters degree. For many people is very easy to say and not able to see and not too many people able to accomplished.
@@luisriba8082 It’s a lot of work to get a masters. Very difficult. I could not write a thesis myself. Not many people are up to the challenge. And even with all that, it still doesn’t mean someone will hire you.
This is something that blows, I got my Associate's in Applied Sciences, and no one is hiring thanks to the no-no word. I have lately been doing some freelancing in my spare time to act upon me as someone who wants to accel in the Graphic Design field.
Doing Computer Science and seeing internships that need years of experience now. It's kind of brutal. I am willing to work for free but no one's taken me up on the offer yet.
Dude capitalism is such a joke. And these boomers sitting up here chuckling to themselves about how they’d never hire someone with a MASTERS degree but they would require you to have one still. So stupid. Soooo incredibly stupid. Wasting precious youth on games.
It's more specially job hiring here but yea Same people who complain about so many young people being unemployed are the same ones who wont hire them cause no job experience They create their own problems which they complain about and are so ignorant that they just dont realise it
Employees are your biggest expense in a business and no-one wants to take a chance on someone who is untested. My wife gets applicants all the time fresh out of law school that think they can apply for a job as a lawyer with no real-world experience in the industry. Find the most remedial job you can in your field and take it, then start working your way up the ladder.
I couldn't agree more. I graduated from college in 2012 with a degree in marketing and business management and sold cars for my first 1-1/2 years out of college. Although it wasn't what I wanted, the job was an awesome experience because I made the job an awesome experience and I gained a ton of real-world knowledge in the process. I am now a Senior Account Executive at a Fortune 50 company at age 32 and still use some of what I learned selling cars within my current role. It's who you are and what you can do, not what your degree says you know.
This graduate does not get it. Its not possible to get a job with only a degree, to get experience you volunteer for free for a few weeks. This is coming from someone with only a college diploma.
I've heard this from Dave in the past about working for free. I heard him say Ramsey Solutions wouldn't do it, which is good. If a company looking to hire does something like that, then don't expect any employee loyalty in the future from them. The opposite is often true as well. Taking calculated risks with hiring can pay off and they end up being one of your stronger employees. As an employer, you shouldn't expect to have your cake and eat it too within the context of expecting potential employees to work for you for free to "prove themselves".
the calculated risk for a company is VERY low, they can offer lower pay, can fire on the spot during trial phase. Most people with a degree will offer _some_ value right away. No pay at all is unaccepatable. If managers / recruiters are not able to spot the rare exceptions that are not even "good enough" and earn their keep at a somewhat reduced pay level - they have a major problem with recruiting anyway. Now the person might turn out good enough for the entry salary, but not quite the diamond in the rough they were looking for (a completely unfit person would be found out in week 1, if they are not quite ideal that may take longer). Guess what: not quite ideal is normal. If the person has not much potential for promotion they can still to a good enough job where they are (and wasted their money on a degree - which is not the problem of the employer). In that case the company can reshuffle (they might want to keep the person that they know and that does a solid job where they are) - and will have to start the hunt for their dream candidate again. Such a position (degree no or only 1 - 2 years experience) is NEVER a position that they MUST fill with a perfect candidate. if it is the head engineer, the CEA, accounting with some responsibility - they must be a fairly good fit and must function right away. A masters with little of no relevant experience is always someone that will have to be "developed". That process almost never is straightforward. They may pick up people that they want to keep but not in _that_ position. or letting the person go after some months or a year (they might do better in another environment, and the company got the salary's worth out of them as long as they paid them. If hiring a masters degree is justified at all, that will be always positions that require some investment from the company into the new staf member. It comes with the territory of qualified work, and I do not see why the employees should shoulder the full burden while the companies are let off the hook. If they _can_ abuse people eager to enter the workforce they will do it. In other countries that is illegal, does not happen - and the companies find enough talent, and the graduates find the paid jobs. I currently live in Germany and know the situation in Austria as well. hardly any "unpaid" internships are allowed. Both nations do very well with exporting quality products, it is not like pushing the companies into having skin in the game (to make new employees productive fast) would do any harm. On the contrary. The play the free internship game also in the UK (another neoliberal heaven) and with the same results. Companies do not need that to be successful - but if they can they will abuse that to get unpaid labor instead of paying regular staff. Even if a company finds the dream candidate with a lot of potential in the first round of recruiting - that person might leave.
Paying a person a minimum from day one means the company, the manager and the collegues have skin in the game to integrate and develop the new person. FAST. - a free internship means the company has no skin in the game and can as well abuse the highly trained person (instead of offering the job to a regular employee, if the intern is abused for routine work).
Even if you have the education and the experience, they still not going to hire you. Many people are disconnected from the reality of the job market nowadays compare to 20 or 40 years ago.
This is why I don't understand higher education requirements. You're telling me you won't let me operate on this person without experience even though I have a masters. Now what if I had all the experience, why do I then need the masters? Oh so you know that I know what I'm doing? But I'm already showing you that with the experience I have. If these degrees are worth nothing then why ask for them? Why even go after getting one?
This pandemic has proven that getting a job doesn't really secures you a better life. I prefer the trade market, For me investment in the FX And stock market has become very profitable and very good options in securing a better life that where I belong and survive from.
I totally agree with you that's why i got into the real estate market a few months back but profit has been slow but coming, I'd love to try out the stock market for a change, what stocks did you buy and are profiting from?
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This is exactly what top businessmen and CEOs talk about, how people without degrees could make money online without applying any physical effort. The online trading community is reliable and lucrative enough to when done with proper strategies and guidance.
i know of nurses going from BSN to MSN with very little to no job experience. 800 clinical hours later- boom-- nurse practitioners. Healthcare is letting standards fall, atleast in certain sectors.
Getting the foot in the door is one way but make sure the company has a culture where they allow you to learn and grow. If its a large and bureaucratic organization, they will keep your growth limited and find ways to pigeonhole you in the path. Example, cashier or secretary will have little to no chance to move up. The best way to succeed early in your career is really by nepotism. Knowing the right person that can hand your resume from that pile straight to the decision maker. Or go by numbers with your application, which is almost like playing the lottery
A lot healthcare jobs will say on the application page that they want "two years of experience." And still may be open to a new grad. The reason is that some of these Health Care Facilities if they don't put that on there they will get overloaded with a bunch of resumes from people who are not qualified. So even if a job saysapply anyways. Because that might just be something that they say to filter bad candidates out. Who knows. Or you might have to settle for a less ideal job for your first year to get that experience. Thats just how it goes. You don't always get a prime job as a new grad.
The issue with college is most students dont work while they in school. They think they can just get a piece of paper and start making a living. Only job they be getting is min wage at McDonalds.
Internships are a good route, especially for engineering, employers often use internships to test college students and see if they want to offer a full time job for after the internship or after they graduate in a year.
I’m 18 and I applied to every job in the pandemic and the job I currently work at (it was in the summer of my senior year) I went to DUNKIN donuts managers and asked for a job (I dressed nice and brought everything they required) and I was hired
The world of the modern workplace is SEVERELY flawed. I found it extremely difficult to find my first job out of college, but thankfully I was able to get my foot in the door with a tech company. In that role, I was treated poorly, given overnight hours, and denied any promotion or raise in pay. Shockingly, people who just happened to "know someone" ended up getting promoted like it was no problem. My college degree was utterly insignificant.
What can I say, its the truth.
I graduated with a Bachelors in Communications and was the very first hired at The Wall Street Journal straight out of school. Why? Because I had more experience than my other classmates. NBC-TV, NBC-RADIO, Brown University Radio, College Newspaper, College Radio, Providence Journal...and yes I knew a group of Professional Radio Account Executives who met each month and took me on sales calls and client promotions. The adults liked my ambitiousness so much that three years after when I was at the Wall Street Journal in New England the "know someone" people invited me to work with them at a Radio Station in TX. Fortunately I was born with no fingers, so I can't point at someone else for not having success in college.😎 FYI, My mother was ashamed at my low GPA when I graduated, but The Wall Street Journal jumped the line to hire me because of my hustle. You Need Hustle!!!!
Didn't the degree help you know what you were doing at work?
Buddy one word.. "Connections" if you don't have connections you're a nobody.
@therealvidadi LOL.... No one has ever done anything good for me in terms of helping me to obtain employment or further my career and anyone who tries is either wasting my time with 🐂💩😅 or crazy and if I listen to them, they would just help me to screw myself over at this point in life. 😂 The problem here is an obvious nonsense question that got old a long time ago. There are a ton of jobs that require you to basicaly claim some kind of experience, when actually obtaining varafiable
Imagine getting a master's degree and having to sell yourself by working for free. That's tragic.
If your having job troubles I feel bad you son I got 99 problems and job skills ain't one
Hands down this his worst advice yet even more so than delivering pizzas with your master's degree.
The thing is having a degree in and of itself doesn’t add value lol 😂 you have to demonstrate that there is value in it via work experience(should be paid but lol) ... this is the problem today everyone thinks amassing degrees means they should be guaranteed a certain level of pay ... the other problem is that tons of jobs that should never have required degrees like sales jobs that have been around for thousands of years now require em
It my college you have to get internship experience to even get a 4 year degree
He’s applying in the medicine field work experience is very much required across the world in that field same with law and mental health too. They need you to prove you can actually practically do the job and not just memorise answers and write a good paper
NEVER work for free for any amount of time, NEVER ask to reduce your salary b/c "you don't have enough experience", the don't care about experience, you will be taught at the job, the dump HR person puts EVERYTHING they can jam in the job posting without even thinking.
Apply to 50 jobs, get interviewed at 10, get second interview at 3, take 1.
That's it
Like that you're buried but you gave the best advice. This advice also applies to dating funny enough.
Exactly what I was thinking.. Offering to work for free is TERRIBLE advice.
Well atleast you’re not getting physically damaged. I have prolapse for the rest of my life, and ruined hair for life. I get paid less and have to be disfigured for years so shut up it’s not forever.
Please tell these young entrepreneurs this. There are people actually saying people over profits....nobody works just to go home and say, hmmm that client that didn't pay sure did contribute to my light bill getting paid.
Well said.
It’s so hard just to get in the door nowadays
Tell me about it pal, without connections you're a nobody. Welcome to the real world.
Poor guy needs work experience to get a job. But you need a job to get work experience
Catch 22 circle!
This is why even if youre not qualified for the job to throw your hat in the ring.
The age old problem. The greatest conundrum.
@Alexander Worley So true, at least talking with someone via interview will help both you and them realize what they actually want from someone in the position, and see if it is a good fit
Award-winning comment!
i usually walk in, put a gun on the table and say "either i get the job or no one is going to have this job"
😆 I need to try that one day it might work
Haha
"Sell me this pen."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
For people outside of medical jobs, a lot of times they put "required experience" but it's really a preference. Don't let it stop you from applying.
Heck, all the requirements are just preferences. Pretend they don't exist if you think you can do the job. What does an interview and rejection cost you anyway. If you get an interview without having the requirements, that means something.
Im in HR. To a degree, youre correct. But at least be realistic. Dont be a non experienced new grad wirh 0 experience applying for a supervisor level position. But applying for a job needing 5 yrs experience but you have 1-2 yrs experience, then thats at least understandable. And of course if someone in hiring team/Manager refers you, thats a whole different game and basically choice is yours.
@@robertc6293 but to be honest during the interview process the employers want you to answer their questions the way they want them to be answered. This doesnt give applicants with disabilities a fair shot. Autistic employees actually outperform non autistic ones in tech but they got thru on behalf of a special programme. I do know for a fact employers prefer non disabled and non special needs applicants its pretty sad and its hard to file a discrimination case against employers.
And the workforce does need a variety and wide selection of disabled employees.
I have autism and iv applied to at least 50 and with voluntary experience but im unable to answer their interview questions the right way. But i do online video game streams on twitch and try to make a living that way im my own boss.
@@steve00alt70 Yes some of these scenario interview questions are very stupid, i agree. Even me being in HR , doesnt mean i know id ace every interview. Its honestly an acting audition; like you said you rehearse what you know they want to hear 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ But yeah there will never ever be a perfect system for hiring unforrunately.
Work experience is worth more than a degree in my opinion. I worked in my university lab before my internship at a local hospital. Before that I worked at a beauty supply store for the first 3 years of my college career. Got a job during the recession before I graduated. Now I am transitioning to accounting and I’m not leaving school with an internship or a entry level part time job
Probably nine of ten entry level hires we made were former interns of ours. That face time is invaluable. The colleges will tell you "oh, you need more degrees". Nothing could be further from the truth.
The best advice I've read so far. Thanks.
I never found that to be true
@@ernestscribbler2294 what did he meant
What I've learned at my job, with more of the internal postings, even if you don't meet all the requirements, apply anyway. Chances are you'll still get asked to interview and get the job because many didn't apply due to the thinking they don't fit all the criteria.
I need this "entry-level" job that requires 4 years of experience first. :/
I've seen so many of these require an undergrade and 10+ years in this area or 5 years in these areas. Better have connections.
@@Jumperman12mac the only job I’ve ever gotten without a “connection” was my usaf enlistment...maxed out the test and got to pick my specialty. Four careers later I just retired.
I saw a job advertised once that required a qualification which, at the time, did not exist - they wanted RSA Level 3 in Information Technology - the highest RSA did was Level 2, which is a diploma - anything higher than a diploma in this country (the U.K.) entitles me to put the title Dr or Professor in front of my name or letters after it - I applied with my Level 2, thinking that it was a typo - only to be told that they actually WERE looking for someone with Level 3 qualifications!
Good luck finding someone with those non-existent qualifications, I said to myself!
I can only assume a few things:
The vacancy was not filled;
The applicant who was successful produced forged documents;
The employers eventually realised that there was no RSA 3 and settled for an RSA 2 - whatever, I still didn’t get the job!
Employers’ definition of experience is so many years of unbroken and uninterrupted and continuous experience - employers are largely training-shy and don’t consider training schemes as training sources - which is precisely what they are - you can’t get experience from an employer when they won’t take a punt on people who have no experience - training courses only provide you with about 12 weeks of experience - then you have to wait 18 months to do another one - how are you meant to get five years of unbroken experience when training schemes not only provide you with three months at a time and aren’t recognised by employers, despite the job centre’s adamant claims to the contrary?
Thats a ploy to get people who arent confident in themselves. Although some places do enforce it most of the time they dont.
its only an estimate its not really 4 years
It’s well known in IT circles (at least) that job descriptions are a wishlist at best. Sometimes the requirements are literally impossible, like having 10 years experience in something that has not existed for that long. Gotta put your time in and work your way up, even with a masters degree.
you NEED some experience, whether its an internship, co-op, unpaid research, mentorship, etc. Anything in the field counts as experience on a resume
Most places want paid work experience so doing free labor won't help you get a job
@@larrisalewis8558 to get paid labour you need work experience so he may need to volunteer and then get a job he doesn’t want to then get the job he does
Work for free after graduation? No thanks!
you gotta do what you gotta do if you want that career
It's will hard to find a job with 0 experience. Dave Ramsay said we could work for 2-3 months.
I wish Education ment something
@@larrisalewis8558 it doesnt when everybody and their momma has one
@@Defrap22 our professors lied about a degree is essential its just so they could get paid teaching it. The truth is i never used my maths grade E ever not even primary school level.
this is a great topic, I used to work in a factory making roof trusses and wanted to learn to design them so I could move up the ladder.
after a few months of asking I offered to go over to the design office on Friday afternoons (we used to finish at 1pm on a Friday and the office worked until 5) so that one of the designers could show me the ropes and give feedback on if I was going to be competent.
eventually another designer went on maternity and I was offered the chance to design on a temporary basis.
this became permanent, and after a few years I now run my own department selling and designing roof trusses and engineered joists.
I just saw the shittiest movie “half brother” with this premise
I’m at a point where I might start scamming lol tired of not having experience
I don’t blame you tbh
😂
Everyone thinks a degree is the answer to everything until you slapped in the face with loans and stuck not getting a job, connections with the right people truly gets you places
I'm feeling this!!
@@PinkYellowGreen2023 everyone that ever took that route I think will feel it
This so true. My parents know this and yet they still insist on going to college.😭😭😭
@@JairMarcano-j4tlmaooo same theyre stone aged😂😂😂
It's more about knowing the right person than any personal skill you might have.
💯
It’s not what you know it’s who know. That’s corporate America.
You are so right
That's life.
Something Hunter Biden knows very well.
@@Lexethan2011 why would you mention him without mentioning trump's kids? They haven't worked for anyone in their life except their dad.
@@superblump87 he made more than a billion dollars
After you work for free for 6 month they will let you go and the job will try and find someone else who will work for free.
Internship is the best way to prove your competence and then convert it into full time position.
You gotta get an internship first.
False especially unpaid internships.
@@blackmesa232323 why would you ever do that
job listing for entry level “ Social Media Manager”
requirements: 10 years of experience another 5 years. 3. Different certifications : meanwhile job really didn’t exist 8-10 years ago
Medical jobs are cutthroat. He needs to take a hospital job which may not be necessarily in his field just to get a foot in the door. Then he can ask around and network that way
First job won’t be perfect
You are everywhere 😀
I wish people did more research on stuff like this before signing up for more debt. I'm surprised he didn't do any internships or co-ops before graduating.
Exactly
We don't know his entire situation. Maybe he was working in an unrelated field to get by or has a family to take care of.
@@MiguelRPD doesn’t negate my point. Nobody’s “taking care of family” while doing a masters program.
@@esonon5210 solid points but just throwing this out there my step mom is actually doing that, full time job, mom of 4, with my dad (works full time) and she just got a degree and is going for her masters in it
@@esonon5210 That's definitely not true. Life doesn't stop just because you're in Grad school. I'm getting my MPH and I'm helping take care of my grandma (83, Cancer Survivor, COPD, Anxiety, Dementia, plus a lot more).
On top of that, I was taking 15 graduate credits, I had a full time internship, a Teaching Assistantship for 3 classes, and PhD and job applications.
Then in the middle of this semester I had to drive 7 hours by myself to do all of that *and* take care of my mom for a month while she was in surgery, and take care of my two adopted brothers who were in hybrid school. Oh yeah, all this during a pandemic.
Never underestimate what life can do. Stop thinking just because people are in school they don't have to deal with real life.
Professional student that what he is/was, now he's gonna get to actual work, good for him.
They’re right but at the same time, these guys are definitely of a different generation and don’t understand the tech heavy era. There is absolutely a lack of communication from employers.
They are correct that people need to be able to reach out and not work for monetary value. That’s what I did with football coaching at my college.
@@walshdog61 Another Clancy Pandergast!
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303no motive here
@@walshdog61 He was not a bad DC.
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 that’s the truth
My supervisor said he wasn't going to hire me until I called to follow up my interview. He said that he thought it showed drive. And I really wanted and needed this job
Same called back after the interview for a follow-up.
Get into sales. Specifically medical sales for a cardiac department. AED’s and stuff like that. Will give you practical experience in the field as you learn about your products and how they work
^^excellent advice. And old classmate of mine got her master's in ex phys just like this guy on the show. She didn't love just doing group ex classes so moved into medical sales and she slays it there. Awesome career and it's way less stressful then typical sales jobs
Keep in mind, when employers post job listings, the "perfect" candidate would be the one who checks all the boxes for experience, background, etc. However, no one is perfect so don't be afraid if you are missing one or two things asking from a job listing. If you have 8 qualities out of the 10 they're asking for, apply!
I'd recommend trying to get either an assistantship or an internship for next semester. A really good way that I don't think students utilize that much is just asking your professors if they know anyone looking for internship work. They always know someone!
My advice would be to look at per diem work (vacation, weekend, maternity, etc) and ask around for clinics that specialize in hiring new grads. You got this.
So a college degree doesn’t just get you a job?
College degrees are little more than certificates that say you are dedicated enough to spend your time on something. Also Mike Rowe had an excellent talk about this, degrees are mearly filters to keep people from over saturating certain markets. the best example i can think of is lawyers, you used to just intern out of high school at a fellowship and in 4 years do your lsat and boom youre a lawyer
Nope that’s why it’s a waste of money only good if there’s internship which they have you work for free for half a year whatever so gain experience
@@TheReapersGrim117 I would think a degree would at least tell your employer that you will show up everyday AT THE LEAST.
My professors have NEVER said that college would get you a job. They have only mentioned that it’s a great opportunity for potential. I was lucky enough to work temporarily at a state job right after college with my bachelors degree and experience working at a restaurant.
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 your point falls under mine: "that say you are dedicated enough to spend your time on something"
That's a good motto to have for life "How can I add more value than what I cost or what I take?"
I applied to hundreds of companies to get my internship and another couple hundred for a full time. My internship did offer a full time position but I did not want to stay in that field. Dont get discouraged getting those rejection emails.
I started by sweeping the floor at the factory I work at. Got hired on full time, finished my degree, got promoted a few times, now making six figures.
Too many new graduates expect to start out near the top. Just get in the door, show up, shut up and work.
Wow what a great story! How long have you been working there?
Love this! How many years before hitting that six figure?
Yeah boii
Pretty hard to "show up, shut up, and work" if no one will even give you an entry level job.
If you are about to graduate with a masters degree and have no work experience already that is the problem.
Sadly this is very common.
That’s what I was thinking
Honestly, is real problem for a lot of people that are fresh out school with no experience.
His Master's doesn't require some kind of field work or clinicals?
Just to get into most healthcare programs you have to have some experience (shadowing, volunteering, etc) that should be somewhat relevant when looking for a job, or to at least get his foot in the door.
In some cases your best option can be to try to find a recruiter in your field, whether at a local office or on linkedin and see what they can do for you. I still remember when I was in property management and had managed a 900 unit student housing complex in a small town. I moved to a big city and applied for everything in sight and even though I had reached the manager level at my prior job, no one called back. I finally located a recruiter for the field and went and talked with her and she basically explained that even though I had managed a complex before, it was unproven in most hiring managers' eyes because it was a small town without the hustle and bustle/stress of a large city. Despite that, she got me in the door at a place and I was hired immediately. Had to eat a little bit of salary for the recruiting, but I wound up with a good company that gave me 5 years of experience and several promotions.
The other thing is to honestly just apply and get your foot in the door, blow their mind with the interview and if they seem to have any reservation about you not meeting the experience requirements, just let them know you are coachable/teachable. Getting a job is kind of like fishing, you aren't going to catch that much with just one line in the water, have to cast a bunch of lines out and increase your chances, even if you don't meet the qualifications 100% of the time. I applied for an internship once and after the interview they offered me a full time paid position, you just never know, you just have to give yourself a chance to get in front of them. Also, always send a thank you note, email, text, to the HR person that set you up and the person that interviewed you if possible. It's old fashioned, but you'd be surprised with just how far that can go.
Good idea
Crazy how we go into debt for college just for jobs to tell us we are not experienced. Worst part is, us college graduates can’t even get a interview since most jobs disregard our resumes if we have no experience. Their advice is irrelevant if you can’t even get a interview. And his point about having no marketing experience if you only been to school is wrong, maybe not everybody but a lot of people have skills and abilities beyond what their school education may say or what their resume says.
2:12 beans and rice time
Won’t see the inside of a restaurant unless you work there
Lack of experience is a problem I could never solve. Employers just would not hire me. As a result I've never been able to use my degree 10 years out of school. I offered to work for free but employers didn't care. I had no choice but to give up and move on. So my degree is worthless. A terrible shame since I put so much time and money into school. What a waste. I learned a very difficult lesson, NEVER EVER BORROW FOR COLLEGE, NEVER.
I answered an email and got an internship. Turned into a full time job. Been there for 8 years and counting.
What was the internship? I lost my first job after my Associates and was working there for two years. Cosi at a flat bread restaurant, but now I need a new job and the pandemic prior to when I lost work. Never done an internship but I wanted to do one.
I like Ken’s approach to this one. You can work in the organization, make money, and then move into the job you want. Working for free can make for a situation where someone picks you up, takes the free work, and then lets you go. Comprising with Dave I would 100% say the salary for the job you want should be lower if you do not have experience. Then the company is taking much less of a financial risk. As you get experience the salary can climb because you are proving your worth and would potentially go somewhere else if they didn’t give you a boost. But we are talking 1-3 years in depending on the ROI.
working for free means: company has NO skin in the game, all burden on a young person trying to estblish themselves. If a company is well run they CAN make a person with a masters productive right away. and they will be eager to do so because it costs them money from day one.
I was always told that once I got certified, never work for free. I’m just a mechanic. Seems good on paper, but even without experience, you still went through the schooling and the testing to do what you do.
I could see the work for free thing working for a creative field to show samples of work or for straight up physical labor to prove you can do the work.
People often realize too late that they should be looking for experience before they graduate. Obviously it isn't possible for all majors, but my first internship was in high school and it was paid minimum wage too. I leveraged that experience and got four more in college and by the fourth and fifth one, both were offering me full-time jobs during the pandemic. And even if they hadn't, I had a full year of actual paid client service in my field under my belt by graduation.
That's why I have no experience. I went to college and I didn't even do internships but I wasn't guided in the internship route of college to get experience because companies won't train you to pay you like they used to. Experience is a big deal and I think having an internship would have made my life a ton easier. At least I had my first job luckily that had nothing to do with internships.
Cardiac rehab...get a job at a gym and personal training. Build a portfolio of clients and before/ after pictures with clients blood work
I don't think someone with a masters degree is gonna feel like starting out with a personal trainer job. I don't know what people in the U.S. make but where i live the going rate of a personal trainer is like $12 per hour.
I think thats a hippa violation. You go to an interview with a portfolio of others peoples lab results, they might give you the side eye.
Well as a nurse I have worked in rehab and a lot of therapists have worked at gyms. You build a portfolio with the clients permission knowing that it is like a reference. Post op cardiac patients have long term rehabs. Some use gyms instead as part of their recovery.
I usually dont like to suggest this but in healthcare internships is the way to go, is most likely that you can end up working at the place where you interned.
Banking as well, no experience needed and you can work all the way up branch Manager making well over 100k
I really think Dave is a little out of touch on this one. Many employers would get the free labor and if they hire you, would pay you the lowest amount. Having a masters is and working for free is insane.
Higher some one with a masters degree because they know everything 😄, grind and hustle is key to your success
I wouldn’t higher you
I wouldn’t hire both of y’all cuz y’all can’t spell. Its hire not higher 😂
@@aaronsutton2956 I think that was the joke Jarrett above was trying to make lol
@@aaronsutton2956 your expectations seem hire than they should be :p
@@LinkingYellow 😂nice pun
Offering to work for free for 3-6 months sounds ridiculous to me. I get that Dave would love to see that given that he's an employer himself but come on if you've build up your marketable skills to any reasonable degree during college you shouldn't have to offer yourself up for nothing. And if you really do need to, you're probably in the wrong field or you don't know how to market yourself.
Tell the employer you read ken Coleman’s book the proximity principle
He should have been working as close to the desired field/career as possible all through school. Only doing school, not working concurrently, is a major mistake.
I don't condone lying on your resume (non medical) but I see no harm in spicing it up a little as long as your skills can back it up.
I know someone who got in to cardiac rehab with just a bachelors degree. At UMPC and it’s pays them 50k. They had no post grad experience just did a school related internship there.
I think an internship counts as work experience. Some of them do pay.
@@jurikowhy359 Well this one was required for graduation so it didn’t pay but that’s what I mean for your degree they should require internships which obviously count as experience. But the problem is some of them want post grad experience
No one does the "WORK FOR FREE" to get experience
To get a job without experience:
1. Create or identify non-work experience that you can promote. (Volunteer work, class projects, organizations works, freelance, etc)
2. Network! Tell everybody you know that you are looking for a job. Tell them what types of jobs and make sure they have a copy of your resume. (Professors, past professors, classmates, advisor, parents, parents friends, your friend parents, and on and on).
3. Don’t be too picky on the jobs you are willing to take, you need some experience. Use it and make the best of it. (Gain skills and keep moving) Even in this case for medical jobs, what about working a summer as a pharmacy tech or lab technician, point is be flexible. Even look for fellowships or other student driven programs.
5. Talk to your university contacts to find out what your options are.
I share other tips on my channel, but if you feel like you have zero experience whatsoever, that’s most likely a lie. You have some experience just less. Learn how to highlight the experience you have and use your network! ✌🏾💖
There are job sites that will not take volunteer work it has to be paid.
I was waiting for pizza delivery from Dave
You can make $5,000 - $10,000 a month mowing pizzas and delivering lawns.
@ACR that got me in stitches.
He should have looked at the entry requirements for the job he wanted whilst still at university so he knew what he needed to do whilst he was there for experience or once he graduates to get the job. You can’t just walk out with a degree in a field such as medicine or mental health without work experience that means volunteering or another job that gives you entry into experience
I did an unpaid internship in the same field as this guy and they offered me a paid position at the end of my internship.
Big difference between a business degree and a medical/ health services degree. You often are not legally allowed to work workout that degree.
What I did when I was 15, was walk into each store and talk to the owner directly until one of the places hired me
12 years later and you are still walking into stores?
Same here literally business to business saying how good of a worker I am and how well I can prove it and said fire me the day i dont meet your expectations but that day will never come because I always exceed expectations
@@1jw298 no not stores anymore, did same thing with a Electric company once I got older, saw them working. Talked to the owner exchanged information and agreed to take me on as an apprentice.
@@davidgarza995 exactly!
@Josiah Galicia That was 3 years ago I did that, I’m 18 now and did same thing with the electric company straight outa high school.
You just keep applying to jobs and never give up, volunteer if you have to, prove to them that you are worth something and be confident, you can get a job almost anywhere
I have 3 degrees which includes two master degrees with 7 years consecutive experience at management level in Supply Chain Management and I am now a janitor in Canada.
In a different era, working for free to show your worth or the value of your good/service could work but in today’s market you will be working for free for a long time. It’s too easy to extract everything they need out of you at the lowest cost then say you didn’t make the cut.
This was the exact reason for federally registered apprenticeships. Too many employers strung people along. When the employees finally demanded a raise for their acquired experience, then they were fired with no way to prove where/how they acquired experience. They had to start from the bottom of a new company at an older age.
Be careful working for free.
Work experience is as important as the degrees. It's amazing that a person who is an adult has gone that long without some job experience.
He probably has job experience but NOT in his field. If he is a a coder, he should have his own projects. Which he may or may not have sold / made money from.
How are you supposed to get job experience if they only hire people with job experience
Means people starting out just cant get anywhere
I work as a physiologist in cardiac rehab and from me and others alike, look for a different job. An ex phys degree is unfortunately trash unless you’re looking to use it as a stepping stone into med school or something. You’re topping out at 50k max after 5-10 years of experience unfortunately. It is a fairly laid back job though so take that as you will
I was fortunate to receive college credit for an internship. It really helped me. I think more colleges should offer credit for internships. I had to find the opportunity for myself, but it was worth it.
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I just call up several employment agencies when I'm looking for a job. That usually works. What doesn't work is going to a job board website and no one ever calling you.
Look up local employment agencies that get jobs you're qualified for, like warehouse, office, medical jobs, etc. Call up several of these agencies.
Applying in person doesn't work neither. They will just say apply online and then never call you.
job boards kinda works but i tried employment agencies its the same shit they ghost you and also they take some of your pay so i guess its preferences
I once had a boss who told me he hires people for the things he cannot train. I have offered to work for free and I was told they couldn't do that because of worker's comp. I was always hired in a very short time. Drive far exceeds degrees. Years ago I bugged my employer to teach me more. That conversation happened about twice a month. Eventually my employer told me I needed to go into business. He told me he would help me get started. Years ago I worked for the top company in America. I did not have an MBA but several others did. My boss who was the VP told me they had a few discussions and did not know what the problem was at one of the branches and why for five years they had been losing money. Two hours after being at the branch I came back with two observations and two recommendations. My boss had been with the company for 23 years and told me he did not know what to do. In two weeks we brought the branch to even and in one year we became the fastest growing and most profitable branch without hiring or firing anyone. Constantly I had conversations with the employees and was open to their suggestions. At the end of the day the employees stood around to see what the sales and production was for the day. They gave me a lot of nice surprises.
"Just because you have a masters degree doesn't mean somebody will hire you." Well said.
masters are full of bs?
You have no idea what its takes to get a Masters degree. For many people is very easy to say and not able to see and not too many people able to accomplished.
@@luisriba8082 It’s a lot of work to get a masters. Very difficult. I could not write a thesis myself. Not many people are up to the challenge. And even with all that, it still doesn’t mean someone will hire you.
This is something that blows, I got my Associate's in Applied Sciences, and no one is hiring thanks to the no-no word. I have lately been doing some freelancing in my spare time to act upon me as someone who wants to accel in the Graphic Design field.
No - no Word ?
SWE College Internships requirements be like: 4 years of Python, 4 Years of Java, 10 years of database experience.
Me as a college junior: -__-
Doing Computer Science and seeing internships that need years of experience now. It's kind of brutal. I am willing to work for free but no one's taken me up on the offer yet.
Dude capitalism is such a joke. And these boomers sitting up here chuckling to themselves about how they’d never hire someone with a MASTERS degree but they would require you to have one still. So stupid. Soooo incredibly stupid. Wasting precious youth on games.
It's more specially job hiring here but yea
Same people who complain about so many young people being unemployed are the same ones who wont hire them cause no job experience
They create their own problems which they complain about and are so ignorant that they just dont realise it
Get a job that doesn't require experience, but has similar skills. These are transferable skills that can then show to employers you have them.
Employees are your biggest expense in a business and no-one wants to take a chance on someone who is untested.
My wife gets applicants all the time fresh out of law school that think they can apply for a job as a lawyer with no real-world experience in the industry.
Find the most remedial job you can in your field and take it, then start working your way up the ladder.
*I remember when i struggled with this out of college*
I had to make my own opportunities ❤️❤️❤️
I couldn't agree more. I graduated from college in 2012 with a degree in marketing and business management and sold cars for my first 1-1/2 years out of college. Although it wasn't what I wanted, the job was an awesome experience because I made the job an awesome experience and I gained a ton of real-world knowledge in the process. I am now a Senior Account Executive at a Fortune 50 company at age 32 and still use some of what I learned selling cars within my current role. It's who you are and what you can do, not what your degree says you know.
This graduate does not get it. Its not possible to get a job with only a degree, to get experience you volunteer for free for a few weeks. This is coming from someone with only a college diploma.
Dave please Dave please I want to see more of Dave.
I've heard this from Dave in the past about working for free. I heard him say Ramsey Solutions wouldn't do it, which is good. If a company looking to hire does something like that, then don't expect any employee loyalty in the future from them. The opposite is often true as well. Taking calculated risks with hiring can pay off and they end up being one of your stronger employees. As an employer, you shouldn't expect to have your cake and eat it too within the context of expecting potential employees to work for you for free to "prove themselves".
the calculated risk for a company is VERY low, they can offer lower pay, can fire on the spot during trial phase. Most people with a degree will offer _some_ value right away. No pay at all is unaccepatable. If managers / recruiters are not able to spot the rare exceptions that are not even "good enough" and earn their keep at a somewhat reduced pay level - they have a major problem with recruiting anyway.
Now the person might turn out good enough for the entry salary, but not quite the diamond in the rough they were looking for (a completely unfit person would be found out in week 1, if they are not quite ideal that may take longer). Guess what: not quite ideal is normal.
If the person has not much potential for promotion they can still to a good enough job where they are (and wasted their money on a degree - which is not the problem of the employer). In that case the company can reshuffle (they might want to keep the person that they know and that does a solid job where they are) - and will have to start the hunt for their dream candidate again. Such a position (degree no or only 1 - 2 years experience) is NEVER a position that they MUST fill with a perfect candidate. if it is the head engineer, the CEA, accounting with some responsibility - they must be a fairly good fit and must function right away.
A masters with little of no relevant experience is always someone that will have to be "developed". That process almost never is straightforward. They may pick up people that they want to keep but not in _that_ position.
or letting the person go after some months or a year (they might do better in another environment, and the company got the salary's worth out of them as long as they paid them. If hiring a masters degree is justified at all, that will be always positions that require some investment from the company into the new staf member.
It comes with the territory of qualified work, and I do not see why the employees should shoulder the full burden while the companies are let off the hook. If they _can_ abuse people eager to enter the workforce they will do it.
In other countries that is illegal, does not happen - and the companies find enough talent, and the graduates find the paid jobs. I currently live in Germany and know the situation in Austria as well. hardly any "unpaid" internships are allowed. Both nations do very well with exporting quality products, it is not like pushing the companies into having skin in the game (to make new employees productive fast) would do any harm.
On the contrary.
The play the free internship game also in the UK (another neoliberal heaven) and with the same results. Companies do not need that to be successful - but if they can they will abuse that to get unpaid labor instead of paying regular staff.
Even if a company finds the dream candidate with a lot of potential in the first round of recruiting - that person might leave.
Paying a person a minimum from day one means the company, the manager and the collegues have skin in the game to integrate and develop the new person. FAST. - a free internship means the company has no skin in the game and can as well abuse the highly trained person (instead of offering the job to a regular employee, if the intern is abused for routine work).
Even if you have the education and the experience, they still not going to hire you. Many people are disconnected from the reality of the job market nowadays compare to 20 or 40 years ago.
This is why I don't understand higher education requirements. You're telling me you won't let me operate on this person without experience even though I have a masters. Now what if I had all the experience, why do I then need the masters? Oh so you know that I know what I'm doing? But I'm already showing you that with the experience I have. If these degrees are worth nothing then why ask for them? Why even go after getting one?
This pandemic has proven that getting a job doesn't really secures you a better life. I prefer the trade market, For me investment in the FX And stock market has become very profitable and very good options in securing a better life that where I belong and survive from.
I totally agree with you that's why i got into the real estate market a few months back but profit has been slow but coming, I'd love to try out the stock market for a change, what stocks did you buy and are profiting from?
I majorly profit from TSLA, NIO and NASDAQ but the true means of profit isn't knowing how to pick stocks but through experience and expertise of a long trading career. That's why i work closely in hand with Mr Hovik Morte his been guiding me on proper investments and lessons on proper trades.The FX and stock market can be a very confusing and crazy place to be for a newbie, I could barely understand the numbers and charts on my own I made poor choices of trade and I paid for it 😔💵 I couldn't lose anymore money so I has to look for a better way to trade so I got an expert to teach and invest for me, Mr Hovik Morte an exceptional Broker I was a bit skeptical about him at first but the ideas and strategies he was already talking me into were too good to ignore so I got into business with him and I haven't regretted it since, his got me on a weekly investment programme of 5000$ and I profit 13000$ from it, I live a better more comfortable life Thanks to Mr Morte and most importantly investing has become fun.
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This is exactly what top businessmen and CEOs talk about, how people without degrees could make money online without applying any physical effort. The online trading community is reliable and lucrative enough to when done with proper strategies and guidance.
@@EButz In translation you profit from scamming people.
@@stefanschroeder2624 have you been scammed by this man before?
life is not fair
Great advice!
The great job paradox: You need experience to get a job, but to get experience, you need a job.
i know of nurses going from BSN to MSN with very little to no job experience. 800 clinical hours later- boom-- nurse practitioners. Healthcare is letting standards fall, atleast in certain sectors.
So glad I got a job out of college
Sounds like DJ is headed for a job in sales.
Absolutely!
Getting the foot in the door is one way but make sure the company has a culture where they allow you to learn and grow. If its a large and bureaucratic organization, they will keep your growth limited and find ways to pigeonhole you in the path. Example, cashier or secretary will have little to no chance to move up. The best way to succeed early in your career is really by nepotism. Knowing the right person that can hand your resume from that pile straight to the decision maker. Or go by numbers with your application, which is almost like playing the lottery
A lot healthcare jobs will say on the application page that they want "two years of experience." And still may be open to a new grad.
The reason is that some of these Health Care Facilities if they don't put that on there they will get overloaded with a bunch of resumes from people who are not qualified.
So even if a job saysapply anyways. Because that might just be something that they say to filter bad candidates out. Who knows.
Or you might have to settle for a less ideal job for your first year to get that experience. Thats just how it goes.
You don't always get a prime job as a new grad.
The issue with college is most students dont work while they in school. They think they can just get a piece of paper and start making a living. Only job they be getting is min wage at McDonalds.
apply. dont disqualify yourself. make them disqualify you
Would an internship work? Or something along those lines? Or getting a lower position and then grind your way in the industry ?
Internships are a good route, especially for engineering, employers often use internships to test college students and see if they want to offer a full time job for after the internship or after they graduate in a year.
This has gotta be some of the worst advice.
I’m 18 and I applied to every job in the pandemic and the job I currently work at (it was in the summer of my senior year) I went to DUNKIN donuts managers and asked for a job (I dressed nice and brought everything they required) and I was hired
its more about what you know than the years of experience of have. You can have 1 year experience and be better than the dude with 4 years experience.
Is there no internship required for that work? See if he can get an internship or assistant job and then move into the ideal job.
That is always question in every field...