Making A TITANIUM KNIFE - Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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Taking on the challenge of forging a knife from a 2" round solid bar of grade 5 titanium. In this video I start by designing my bowie knife. Next its into the forge and then forged in combination with power hammer and anvil. Lots of grinding with the angel grinder and belt sander, and lots more to come on this titanium knife! Hope you enjoy this video!
My name is Timothy Dyck. I got hooked on blacksmithing when I was 13 years old. I quickly realized that in order to keep blacksmithing I needed money to buy costly supplies, so I started making small items and selling them at the local farmer markets. The farmer markets turned into craft shows and craft shows turned into custom projects. Right out of high school I had the opportunity to apprentice under a blacksmith, where I worked with him for four years. We did projects for some of the most prestigious houses around the rocky mountains and were apart of many large public sculptures. I learned many valuable lessons while working under his training, but the desire to set up my own shop and go out on my own was always something I dreamed about.
So in 2013 I started setting up my full time blacksmith shop out of BC, Canada making custom projects and products like railings, gates, lights, stairs, fences and all the many blacksmithing tools required to keep the blacksmithing shop running. I love what I do and this is my dream job. I enjoy showing you what's going on in the blacksmith shop through the lens of a camera and would love to have you along for the ride as I live out my dream of being a blacksmith in the 21st century.
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Wish more people would find this channel. He is very talented.
Totally agree. One of the better channels for general smithing and fun projects.
Edit your comment and encourage people to like his vid cause your comment is top. Will get it recommended more 👍
Agreed but at the same time I don't really enjoy watching him for some reason
Share the video and recommend channel
As a former Canadian yes
Waiting for that pure elemental tungsten knife.
I played around with tungsten in mine it’s impossible I think
@@matthewwilhelm8819 too much brittle
That would be one heavy knife. And not really good for knife stuff. I want to see it, though
It’s not that it’s cracking it’s the titanium has a very high weld temp so it was just folding and making long thin waves that look like cracks if you haven’t worked with titanium much
How would you fix that? Heat it to a higher temperature? Or work with it only when it's at a higher temperature, not so much when it's cooled down slightly?
@chris chontas they were cracks
@@stienogamez8296 no he is right he is not working it at the temps he needed you need to work titanium between white hot to yellow hot he was doing yellow to cherry like you do with steels when i was researching titanium i found references to needing to wear vision protective gear due to the brightness of the metal at temperature.
Strain rate too high, especially as it gets colder. Power hammer not the best thing to use. Hydraulic press with slower ram speed would be better. Also, some of that may have been a lap. Metal is getting an hour glass like shape. The short strokes from the power hammer you’re not working through thickness much, just the outer layers.
It's a function of the Titanium work-hardening on the outside, and forming an Oxide layer that it refuses to get rid of without abrasive removal. Titanium is my favorite metal to work with, even though it's very strange to work with.
I don't know why but I love the fact that the papers on your sketchbook are old and dirty...
It brings the spirit of the blacksmith....
Dude you should make a titanium folding knife. Titanium handle scales , titanium blade , maybe titanium washers and hardware? Love your videos bro keep doing what you do my dude.
That'd be awsome. Idk of he has the tooling to be able to make a good one tho. Perhaps he can prove me wrong.. He's got the skills tho that's forsure
It would be great, but I wouldn't be surprised if he stays the hell away from using Ti for at least the next 10yrs.
Euclid AllGloryToTheLogLady haha yea I wouldn’t blame him after the frustration of this video. It would be a hell of a challenge though! It could even be a series of videos i would watch it!
Jim F he definitely does! Maybe he could make the pieces and send the handle, washers and hardware out for the milling and then assemble everything at the end. He could do the blade and the rough cuts at his shop.
Jim F If not, he could do a collaboration with another RUclipsr.
If you want a good knife out of titanium I would recommend getting SM-100 or sometimes called NiTiNOL. It's a 60-40 mix of nickel and titanium. It hardens to 62hrc and gets some beautiful colors when it's tempered!
Isn’t nitinol a memory forming metal? How would that work with forging or heat treating.
@@erikcourtney1834 it probably wouldn't be the best material to forge, more of a stock removal material, but there is a way to harden it to 59-62hrc. I don't remember the exact protocol sadly. It's honestly a super cool material to work with and has some amazing colors after the HT process
I’ve always wanted to make a sword of nitinol but it rounds up quickly to $2000 for what $5 of tool steel is
@@wane1393 it's definitely a lot more expensive than the O1 W2 A2 and 80crv2 that I use for my knives
That’s not considered titanium. I have heard of divers knives made out of beta titanium alloy. Maybe 15-3-3-3 or beta C? Not 6-4 for the blade
The white puffs coming from hammering the Ti is probably Titianium-Dioxide. It is so white that it is often used as a pigment. Love your work! 👍😁
Damnnn where has this channel been hiding. Glad I found it
so glad I found this channel. It is nice to see someone working with titanium regularly.
This is simply amazing. If good titanium/alloy stock wasn't as expensive (or I, so cheap), I would jump on a project like this. Instead, I am content to remain jealous.
Doesn’t look like cracks, it looks more like folds like in the skin, that’s what it looks like to me
Use Diamond abrasives that we use in stone work. should be able to really cut with 50 grit diamond.
Holy mackerel!!
When the process of making the knife costs 10x more than the blank stock.
“All the crack is gone”
Crack heads: I know the feeling bro
Yeah and he had no coke, too.
@@RubenKelevra So he "smacked" himself out of frustration.
Awesome video. Just a quick advice, you should get welding glasses, the sparks from Titanium are almost bright as the sun, it's dangerous to grind for long periods of time
Bolle and uvex both make "sunglasses" for welding applications.
They aren't suitable for use as welding goggles, but more for use by offsiders, TAs, etc.
They are pretty damn good as sunglasses as well.
Thanks for that. That was my question
At least another 4 belts, seeing the Ti Hammer used to help forged the Bowie Knife was neat!
BIGGER!!! It’s titanium! Make a huge sword! I mean.. that would be really cool to see a really light & strong, cartoonishly big sword.. but you do you.
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You have quickly become one of the few channels where I already click 'Like' right at the beginning of the video, because I know the content will be great. 👍
For being young you have a lot of knowledge in blacksmithing. Can't wait to see it finished .I'm gonna say 9 belts .
I've been waiting for your titanium knife! I'm satisfied now. Can't wait for the finished product
It moves like jelly.. So clean when it gets hit
Hola, no entiendo muy bien el idioma inglés, pero me encantó tu contenido: es relajante y me apasiona tu dedicación. Saludos desde Colombia 🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴
Titanium keeps a lot more of its strength at typical steel forging temperature. Either increase temperature or use more pressure.
Titanium is a lot more reactive than steel and the oxide it forms is really hard. In aerospace forging the pieces are normally etched afterwards to remove that oxide layer because it wears any machining tools to bits.
New subscriber here. Found you by suggestion from Alec Steele. I rather enjoyed watching this and the time lapse sections were fun to watch as well. Going to be checking out your other content as well.
Invest in a large industrial abrasive wheel grinder. 12-14”. Proper wheels and you will be bang ahead for time grinding and cost of abrasive. Or diamond.
Or mill it.
Is he using his titanium hammer to forge a titanium knife?
yes
He's a absolute mad lad
yes
This is going to be wicked ! Can’t wait to see this one done 🇨🇦🍻
That's one massive scuba knife.
Love the white sparks it throws when grinding. Keep up the great work from Montreal Canada.
This guy is making Sackin Metals some stonks
I hope to see you make an all-Titanium axe, ‘d be so cool
Titanium rocks, I'm sure it is hard to work with but the end-product will be freaking awesome :-)
I shy away from grinding a lot of material off my titanium blades because it takes so long i usually machine most of the material off but like your idea of slowing the belt down I’m gonna have to try that thanks brother maybe we can collaborate on a titanium knife one day
Never thought endmills would beat belts in sheer willpower
Sintered carbide end mills are relatively inexpensive and very, very hard.
Hi Timothy. I find your channel very interesting and enjoyable. My dad was a blacksmith. All the best from the UK
Idk why he doesnt have over 100k already like this is one of the channels that should be over 100k subs
Titaniun, Surprised me the Hard work . Congratulations, you haver talent and courage.
I'm going to look for an update video for this. I want to see how your various titanium tools, as well as the other non-ferrous metal pieces, are faring over time.
Great job Tim , I really love your creativity and motivation. Thanks for sharing your wonderful experience 👍
Heh. Sackin Metals is right down the street from me.
Also, ceramic belts need to be run at high speed with a fair amount of force applied or else the sharp edges get rounded over instead of breaking and creating more new sharp edges.
I just want to say i love your shop and the work you do. Not to be like the people who try to tell you how to do what you make a living at, but your voice is kinda soft and the music loud, I wear headphones so wife can enjoy what she does without me disturbing her. anyway love your work. sub. here right now.
Good.
The rod at the initial forging needs more heat I believe.
The core of the rod not hot enough as outer??
The temperature difference between core and outer side might be the reason for fissure at the time of initial forging.
As the stock got relatively thinner the problem was not noticed.
May be stress difference because of temperature difference within the rod.
Make it white hot. Camera exposure variation considered.
Nice.
Now I am far from a metallurgist and any metallurgist who reads this I'd be interested to know your take on this but in relation to the cracks you were experiencing at first, my guess is that titanium might be really sensitive to forging temperatures and maybe you were just barely not getting it hot enough or maybe just barely to hot. But regardless of all that this is an awesome project and I'm really happy to be brought along on this process. It's my understanding that titanium won't hold an edge as well as steel but I'd still do this project if I had the means. Oh and I guess 8 more belts.
The first time you hit the titanium bar you folded the sides, then when you switched the side you wanted to hammer it flattened the folded waves and actually made it go deeper, I suppose tho, seems like the most logic answer
just wanted to say, you found the perfect music for this video.
Lookin Forward to see this Blade finished and how or if your going to temper it...Also Curious if it is going to chip easy...
As for the Ceramic belts i say 6 maybe more...Titanium Bowie Knife enjoyed watching this...
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I think that crack looking thing and dust is because it was too cold I’ve been told work it at no lower than a medium yellow and probably 20 belts
Hannemann Ironworks grind wet too. Safer, and helps the belts last a little longer.
Damn, that anvil is loud!
Dude your very talented, you should consider making a video with Alec Steele , for sure you'd co,e up with crazy awesome videos and projects
a dozen minimum. looking good can't wait to see it done
Aggressive project, but coming along nicely. Nice work Tim.
You deserve more than 1 million followers
Love to watch you doing what you do.... wish I could do that but my state has a lot of regs and getting the permits is a chore to itself....
Holy crap, what a tough material!
I really like this project so far. Really cool!
Love the channel! Isn’t the highest HRC you can get out of titanium about 45? This will be a nice knife-shaped object, but will it really be a functional knife?
Annealing the titanium between grinds helps it get softer. It work hardens very quickly.
yo man, awesome to see your channel grow!! Been watching you since the beginning! awesome work mate! Hope to be your size someday!
The cracking doesnt come only from the fatique. When the workpiece getting thinner it cools down faster. Titanium when its getting orange'ish starts to do the fatique thingy with the cracks. Bright yellow as the Sun is the way to go. On the hammer it didnt do that that much , since the hammer was a more "massive chunk".
Beautiful work too man..i loved the hammer too
It is looking awesome, l don't know if one could make a knife like this without a big power hammer. I looks really hard to move material. Love your channel.
This channel is epic !
To heat treat and temper titanium you just normalize the piece of titanium and it hardens by room temperature... so I've heard and titanium does not make a good blade it will dull out pretty quickly sadly that is true
But its a magical feeling to hold in your hand
@Ngiplong NGIPLONG the only thing it will be probably be good at cutting its fruits and vegetables
Titanium isn't supposed to be heated, welded or worked in the presence of Oxygen - Might be of value to check out some of the information from what Lockheed Martin's "Skunk Works" found as they manufactured the frame and skin of the YF-12A and SR-71.
Correct. For knife blades I would suggest using bar or sheet, cutting out the profile and simply grind the bevels. For a hard working edge, weld titanium carbide on the cutting edge. A few custom Knifemakers work in this way.
My best guess as to the mystery cracks on the titanium billet on the powere hammer is that titanium is a poor conductor, so it was probably unable to keep the surface quite as hot as the center of the billet and was unable to bring heat to the surface of the billet between hammer blows causing the effect.
I think the lower wheel on the belt sander is the intended spot to grind on those belt grinders, isn't it? The soft back is better for the belt too, keeping it cooler with no back friction
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I have just a little knowledge about the subject but i'm really grateful for your effort to bring this content! Can someone explain to me why it's so hard to work with titanium and what are the advantages of the final product in comparison to a regular steel knife?
Love the work man I’m glad to have found your channel
waiting for part 2
I would have said another 20, but I also know this is a series
Been waiting for a new one of these
Love from India 🇮🇳👍
Dude you are awesome!
Very impressive job Tim, but wanted to know if you guys have available circular shape on this metal.
3:03 that cameo tho
My 2x72 is driven by a 3hp donk, I run it at about 33% on the VFD, that keeps the Ti spark down a lot, I use 50gt Norton Blaze belts, I have no problem grinding Ti now, although I much prefer to machine it, I find that it feels like it"slips" against the belt, whereas, blade steel, stays in the grind much better??.
Good luck,
Scott.
Watching this makes me want a titanium sword like a katana or something that would be dope
Go from talking about coke in the last video, now you talking about crack? love it :)
Just keep anything containing nickel away from the blade.
Titanium loves galvanic corrosion with nickel.
Looks good so far.
BOO-E; and, you’re an incredible smith, brother...🤝🥃
I’ve made a few smaller Ti blades and my guess for that beast will be 9 at a minimum for a somewhat finish grind. Depends on the level of finish. 220 was the best I got. Best of luck, it’s looks awesome.
They looked like cold shuts to me, less like cracks.
Not sure how I found your channel exactly. It showed up somewhere probablu because I watch Alec Steeles channel. I gotta say... I like the couple videos I've seen so far. Seem like a cool dude. I've subscribed obviously.
12 belts ultra conservative, 18 realistically. Last time I worked with titanium, I blew through 4 *good* ceramic flap wheels in 45 minutes. Also not a fan of holding my working metal bare handed, even with just a grinder around. TIG gloves if you've got nothing else around, but with Ti, I "armor up" with full length MIG gloves, leather apron, auto-darkening welding helmet, etc. I've seen a workpiece go from perfect to a nanosecond away from bursting into flame while mildly chasing perfection.
Totality ti stiletto or tactacal mechanical folder, belts 20 to 80 total to finish the knife, bone scaled handle...
Glad to see you’re using the titanium hammer! Ps. Where’s Martin? I miss his sobering gravity to your enthusiasm 😆
Always wanted a titanium sword.
It is the Beskar in real life
"Let's get the grinder out!"
Nik Blackhurst from Bad Obsession Motorsport: *heavy breathing*
Try using a side handle on the angle grinder sometimes -can be safer & better crafting.
The cracks might be coming from letting it cool down too much well forging titanium is a lot more brittle than steel so you have to forge it at a higher temperature
Using the titanium hammer on the knife... noice
Hmmm... 3 more belts. Good luck!
I can’t believe I just found this channel
6 more belts! That’s my guess. Nice video. Thank you!
there is a guy on youtube called dbblades he makes a great ti knife, used like 20 belts
Those big chunky titanium blades?
Wish I would have seen this before I guessed 6 to 8 lol
Cant believe you have only 45k subs, great content!
I am thinking about a dozen more belts.
Just a question. Why does he hammering the slab with hand for an hour maybe to give it rough shape while can actually run it throu the electric saw to give it the shape ? Isn't he wasting his time and resources and making the knife more pricy at the process ?