Hydrovane Installation and Orca Deterrent | DrakeParagon Sailing
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- We take you through the whole process of installing the Hydrovane Wind Vane on our 42 foot sailboat, Paragon. Plus what do you do when an Orca wants to attack your boat? We're hoping our solution will work.
Check out the links below to see the unboxing and initial work we did to prepare for the installation.
Hydrovane Unboxing - How Does It Work?
• Hydrovane Unboxing - H...
Hydrovane Windvane, Part 2: The first step in the Installation
• Hydrovane Windvane, Pa...
Hydrovane Windvane, Part 3: Installing a Fibreglass Mount for the Upper Bracket
• Hydrovane Windvane, Pa...
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You've got a masonry bit ❤
Yep
Not the best tool for this job
I think a lot of the time my cruising life is about making something work with what you've got on hand...
They make bits that are just for fibreglass.
Glad your customer service experience with Hydrovane seems to have worked out for you, they can't be bothered to answer my emails, maybe they think they're the only wind vane makers in the world! Be interesting to see how it works for you - looking forward to your report!
That is a Masonry bit identifiable by the carbide tips being wider than the shaft for utilizing anchors. As for the Orcas, waterproof firecrackers, M80's, have been successfully employed as a deterrent - think very loud noise for an acoustic sensitive animal. We had plenty onboard for our passage but did not require them. There is a thought that playing loud "unpleasant" music through the hull may help as well but the only boat I know to do this was a Cat with the rudders in front of the Saildrive which is also a deterrent as it makes the risk higher for them. The biggest problem with them is they do not announce their presence until its too late. If you see a pod before they are close to the boat they most likely are not the pod doing the attack. The attacking pods quite literally approach from below and only when they "hit" do you realize you have company. The best advise I would give is have firecrackers with a cooking torch (the wind factor) for lighting them and exfil the area as fast as possible, the less time in contact with them the better your odds at reducing potential damage - even in reverse if you have a blade rudder as that would place the rudder in front of the prop.
Masonry bit with brazed carbide cutter is always wider at the tip.
Good thing you reserved the dock. Got past covid. Installed the hydro-vane. Perfect for storm sheltering, supplies, meds.
Absolutely. We were so luck that we were in Killybegs and able to go to that marina when we got Covid, instead of being stuck in a very remote anchorage on the west coast of Ireland.
I would have thought you would have known the different types of drill bits by now😂.you have been working on boats a lot of years now.
I tip my hat to you for managing the HydroVane install from the dock, that shaft is beastly heavy. We are on the hard and working off a scaffold I was able to use a hydraulic jack to take the weight. A tip to others who may be planning a similar job: Rigid makes a cutter that will handle the stainless steel tubing with ease. It is a little beefier than the ones for copper but works the same and it is very reasonably priced.
I think installing the Hydrovane would have been much easier if we were on the hard and able to work from a scaffold. And that hydraulic jack would have been fantastic!
Great install, Hydrovane, would be my choice of wind vane.
Hopefully all of you are over Covid, some people will have it for life, most have little after affects.
Best wishes to all.
I have also heard about the orcas ripping off sailboat rudders.
It is my understanding researchers are trying to use noise to keep them away but the research is not complete.
I think the idea of making a strange noise with your pipes is as good as anything at this time.
Good luck
Nice Job, You Guys did great... I bet you can not wait to see your favorite crew member again....Hope your Killer Whale deterrent works....Safe Travels.
That chunk of fiberglass 😎
Wow, finally getting it on, looks great. Glad your feeling better.
Love that springing out of the birth, works a treat. All the best for the new year, love to Mo.
I know that someday we're going to be trying to get Paragon out of a tight marina space with adverse wind conditions, and especially then, knowing how to spring out like that will make all the difference! :) A great sailor taught me how to do that a little while back in Shetland. :) :) :) ruclips.net/video/WZfxylYH3MM/видео.htmlsi=6_uix1zorFTDj0Mw&t=1556
Had to get rid of my composite propane tanks. Was having more snd more issues with suppliers revusing to refill them. One supplier had a large pile of tanks he had collected from customers for disposal.
You might enjoy the adventure we had when we ran out of propane in Greenland. ruclips.net/video/wU7UH_wx9VA/видео.htmlsi=zQvJ0-E_BA-kq2Vl
hey guys. hang an umbrella upside down under the work area. always works like a charm for me.!🙂
great idea!
Orcas are intelligent animals. Cruisers who try to hurt only make the general situation worse. They have learned that humans catch their livelihood. Thus, I have stopped buying canned tunas. Your banging methods are excellent. Cats do not like wrinkling with aluminum foils. My theory is that sounds that are not natural will scare orcas away. Cheers.
Don't know about the foil and cats thing. My Main Coon loves to play with it, but then again, those cats are not like other cats.
I think your anti-orca system is great! I hope you don't have to use it tho. Be well and take care
For the orcas, I haven't heard of anyone using m80s or cherry bombs, but that seems like an obvious solution. Nothing likes an unepected explosion close by
Thanks for this. Gave me the confidence to do one myself. I’m curious why you sanded the hull down instead of removing material from the back of the starboard?
Thanks. :) I never thought of removing material from the starboard to get it to conform to the curvature of the hull, but I think that might have been more difficult for me to do than sand down the hull to flat. One thing that I didn't show was that I put Sikaflex 291 sealant in between the starboard and the hull and on the bolts to seal it. Good luck with your installation! 👍🏻
Up here in the NorthWest, when the native people would fish from small canoes they would carry dried out Orca liver in a powder form, then if the Orca became curious and start to overwhelm them when fishing then they would spread out the dried liver powder and the Orcas would instantly leave the area. Also commercial fisherman would use the same method by using a dead shark to drag behind their boats to prevent the sharks from getting caught in their nets. People have talked about mixing the liver powder with vegetable oil so to allow the powder to stay at the surface much like when a little bit of diesel fuel hits water and spreads out. Not sure if the vegetable oil theory has worked.
32:30 great maneuver considering the rough sea....
That was the first time that we ever tried using a spring to turn the boat right out of a tight pontoon, so it was actually just a dry run. I first saw that maneuver when we were in Shetland - and we were really impressed it. Here's what that happened: ruclips.net/video/WZfxylYH3MM/видео.htmlsi=6_uix1zorFTDj0Mw&t=1556
It Iis actuslly a very smooth manever. I like it.
Good job Drake.
Thanks Mike! :)
Oh darn, I thought you snipped off that wraparound poly tail
:)
Still got it. :)
Adjustable length bolts aka "All Thread"
What about the handful of sand against the orcas. I heard that idea a while ago. Have a bag of sand and throw a few handfuls between the boat and the orca. Someone said it worked.
Ymmv
I've also heard that works.
Good on you mate. Getting old sucks. I know. I am 60 and i was solid till 55. But after that everything is hard on the body. Edit oh covid got ya.
As I get older I'm taking regular muscle and cardio exercises more seriously to keep in top fighting shape.
Perhaps it is a concrete bit?
I thought the galv steel tube was to accelerate the corrosion of your stainless steel - perhaps noise is what ticks off the orcas in the first place - have you got a black and white bottom?
Those pipes are my version of an Oikomi pipe. I got the idea for it from this NOAA article: response.restoration.noaa.gov/about/media/how-do-you-keep-killer-whales-away-oil-spill.html our bottom is painted red.
waterproof bangers are recommended, as orcas dont like the shockwaves. these are sold on various places but mostly common in gibraltar. Sailing Zatara has a slightly different bigger types, and others use a smaller version.
these bangers are scientifically proven to be useful as marine researchers use these frequently around orca, whales, shark infested waters.
An engine under go causes vibrations. depending on the ultrasonic sound variation, such sound can either attract or distract orcas.
Orcas use the same prinicple of communication such as whales and dolphins.
Looks to me like you’ve got a masonry drill
A bolt with no haed is called studding . You done well with wrong drill .
It’s best to tie on each item to avoid drops.
Good god!!! Easy fit??? My foot.
The hardest part was making the fiberglass mount for the h bracket and epoxying it to the stern.
In the States. " we call it all thread. "....
It’s best not to hit a long, tight bolt/ rod with a metal hammer as it will easily bend it and damage the threads. They recommend not using the PVC pipe now, just the original tube.
What did you use to bed the bolts and protect your core material from water ingress?
I used Sikaflex 291. usa.sika.com/en/industry/global-industry-content-pages-to-keep/commercial-vessels/elastic-sealing-bonding/watertight-sealingbonding/sikaflex-291.html
Curious to know where you got the info that the pipe noise is unliked by orcas? Was it just someone's "i did it and it appeared to work", or is it based off of something more concrete?
It's my version of an Oikomi pipe. I got the idea for it from this NOAA article: response.restoration.noaa.gov/about/media/how-do-you-keep-killer-whales-away-oil-spill.html
@@drakeParagon thanks!
Looks like there is already mounts for a monitor wind vane
Those were from a Danish Aries wind vane, which I installed new, but wasn't happy with. I removed it so that I could install the Hydrovane.
Wouldn't a 50 bmg be a superior orca deterrent
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How’s the hydrovane performing?
So far it's been steering great. I'm not crazy about how much the whole thing vibrates when the rudder's in the water and the boat's under power, so I think I might add a custom brace on the top to hold it more steady. I'm looking forward to when we've sailed with it enough to make a good usage demo and review video. Hopefully soon!
Run a hot wire from your battery to the pipe
Wrong type of bit ....
Drake....with all that huffing and puffing it sounds like you need to see a cardiologist!
Oh I have. I’ve been dealing with asthma my whole life. My Covid experience was also pretty severe, and this was filmed only 2 days after I finally tested negative and I was still feeling pretty weak.