Could Cloud Survive Devil May Cry 5?
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Today we'll be throwing Cloud Strife into Devil May Cry 5. Will he be able to get through the games story and beat all the obstacles in his way? And how did he even end up in the world of Devil may Cry? Let's find out if this swordsman has what it takes to survive. Let's have some fun.
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One thing i want to add, back in DMC3 Dante had his own time manipulation called Quicksilver. When used against Vergil, you could get a couple of hits in, but then Vergil would suddenly speed up and move normally despite quicksilver still being in effect. This basically means Vergil is so fast he can just choose to ignore time stop.
Cloud getting ptsd after urizen says "I will give you dispair"
And then proceds to be beaten into a pulp.
Would Dante survive Final Fantasy VII, though?
Oh yeah, bet it would be a great party for him.
Well, he doesn't have to survive Nocturne. Only the Demi-Fiend does.
Sephiroth could defeat Vergil so probably not.
Sephiroth vs Vergil would be epic, we all know Vergil would win tho.
@@Mesain-8 Death Battle says otherwise.
If Cloud is taking the place of Nero in this, what the heck was Nero doing in the place of Cloud?
He’s playing Queen’s Blood.
He will single-handedly speed run FFVII without the need to transform into DT
@@Omega-jg4oq nah Nero wouldn't survive in ff
Nero’s getting into a shooting tournament with the rest of Avalanche
@@not_interested9310 He would juggle Sephiroth like a basketball.
Considering human souls are 9th dimensional in DMC cannon. That plus being a super solider gives him far better chances than civillians or Dante’s human allies.
and dont even get us started in smt dante boosting the verse aswell
Actually Artemis does not summon enemies. Those enemies are actually her boobs that she detaches from her body. That can also regenerate back cause she can detach them more than once.Nero even comments on the boobs detaching things saying: “ Don’t you need those?”
After seeing Cloud fighting in Advent Children without even using Materia, I think he can do it
Dude Seriously, these type of Videos are Soooo Peak, keep up!
Honestly. The real reason Dante didn't want Nero to come along is because Virgil is [redacted] so he probably WOULD be okay with Cloud coming along so long as he could keep up.
It's Dante.. the dude always wanted to have a one vs one brotherly match against Vergil, no one else is allowed
Could Solid Snake defeat the Rainbow Friends? PS. I got this idea from the fact that in Rainbow Friends you have to survive by hiding in boxes and Solid Snake is famous for hiding in boxes.
Does Raiden of Metal Gear clear Attack On Titan?
yes. those old blades that aren't even really greate can cut the titans raiden can fucking split armored machines in half. even mgs4 raiden has the feat of holding outer heaven off imagine what rising raiden could do.
@@Kedilaa yeah, that’s what I’m thinking too. If he can get up to the napes of their necks, GG. That’s the only thing for me. If he can do that, he clears.
Now the interesting thing for me would be watching him throw down with Mikasa or Levi. I know he’d win, but it’d be interesting to see
Obviously
The problem with this is that the video never takes account that demons only truly die from demonic materials which Cloud doesn't have
3:21 The best part is that Nero's voice actor is Ichigo's dub va as well
Alright, you have been pretty thorough with this. The only thing I want to point out is that if Cloud setup a particular combination of materia once used by people looking to defeat Emerald and Ruby Weapon that would auto-revive you after taking mortal blows (or equip items that do same), this fight could go longer. I agree that it's difficult for Cloud to really find a definitive way to end the guy who survived Dante, Mundus, Nero, and his own ego, of course.
Cloud is hurt here by how inconsistent Cure spells are amongst Square-Enix's RPGs. Do they heal any wound on a still-living target? Do they heal only minor wounds? Anything in-between? He's also hurt by inconsistencies as to what HP represents. For Dante, Vergil, and the like, their HP simply represents their ability to regenerate, whereas for Cloud, it's more a show of his physical durability.
If Cure and the like were more consistent in being similar to systems like the various Dungeons and Dragons editions where cure magic heals anything short of actually being dead, he would put up a much better fight against Vergil. Any wound that Cloud can walk away from, he can heal. The whole "action interrupt" factor is only truly an obstacle in FF7R - other game systems Cloud's fought under don't have that, notably FFVII's ATB system. (Okay, YOUR limit breaks can jump the queue, but that would work entirely in Cloud's favour) Plus, he's more durable than the Sons of Sparda; shrugging off hits that would force them to regenerate.
And if we're going all-in on various game mechanics, Lucky Sevens would obliterate both Dante and Vergil due to that whole "HP as regenerative capacity" thing.
Pretty sure you can scale Dante & Vergil’s durability way higher. It’s not like The Deep from The Boys could hurt them. Just because their HP is mostly about regenerative ability, doesn’t mean they take damage from much weaker characters. Now, does Cloud scale high enough to hurt them anyway? Probably. Even without Omnislash and stuff. But I’m not sure it’s relevant enough, regardless. That’s sort of like saying I could damage Wolverine’s skin, which I probably could… he’s not completely immune to bullets… but without an adamantium bullet, I can’t actually do any real damage, only superficial. Yet he scales high enough he could arguably kill me by sneezing on me. I’m not sure the scaling difference between Cloud and Vergil is THAT large… but I still think Cloud basically can’t win unless Vergil just lets him.
FF Healing Magic can heal any wound as long as you aren't dead, but the healing doesn't actually heal you. It borrows your life essence to speed up your healing. So you don't die from that stabwound, but you just lost like 3 months off of you total life-span.
The more grievous the wound, the more life-span lost. However, again, it doesn't heal dead people.
If you actually powerscale this stuff, it appears it gets crazy. Honestly, I don’t even understand the vs battle wiki. Like what’s 2-A? But from what SEEMED more reasonable to me, Cloud gets to around solar system or multi-solar system, and Dante can maybe get to low complex multiversal, or even as high as outerversal+ which is absurd. But the high end for Cloud puts him at whatever 2-A is which appears to be way better, but I think still below Dante.
Honestly, kinda wish I understood some of this stuff better. It’s extra funny because I found one site that was like, “Oh yeah, Cloud is Wall+ level.” and it’s just like… uh duh? Even if we don’t treat Supernova as an ACTUAL supernova, that HAS to put him probably bare minimum around Island level. Crazy I can’t just find reliable answers and no way am I doing it myself. I didn’t really pay attention in physics class.
But anyway, Mandy’s supposedly created a universe back in a PS2 game, which scales Dante to at least universal back then.
Pretty sure even treating Supernova as an actual Supernova, Cloud doesn’t get to universal… unless we do chain-scaling with Tactics or Dissidia, apparently. Which put him massively higher than he appears to have any right to be in either FF7. But are apparently canon so… can be done. 🤷♀️
Also, I saw some insane stuff like he can ignore most forms of immortality except type 5? Whatever tf that means lol. He also has resistance to mental attacks, spiritual attacks, being erased from existence by the Lifestream, etc. but I’m pretty sure the DMC stuff can still scale higher back in the PS2 games. And apparently there was going to be a Dante vs Bayonetta, so for headcanon stuff, you could use her feats, too… but since that doesn’t actually exist, that’s not canon scaling, currently. Still, pretty sure DMC 5 puts Dante & Vergil way above Cloud.
I remember watching something awhile ago that puts Dante above most fictional universes, but that was probably wank… and even if we give that to him, Saber from the Fate series also gets there, Superman does, and Medaka Kurokami from Medaka Box may unironically scale even higher lmao. Some stuff gets ridiculous.
istg powerscalers would find a way to rank a housefly at faster than light and capable of destroying planets
The versus battle wiki is wrong about and misinterprets a LOT of things, still fun though.
There is NO way you can scale dmc to outerversal nothing supports this in the series even the 9th dimensional scaling scan is sketchy
@@khrinalekill-thebloodspira2531 true 9d without context scales no where . Also 9d scan was removed
Cloud is outerversal in ff7 rebirth.
He defeats Gilgamesh who is outerversal.
Also every dissidia character is outerversal.
Dissidia is canon to ff7.
Also dante is hardly universal
As a fan of both series I loved this video
And also I like to imagine at the end Cloud wakes up in the truck like it never happened and that it was all a werid dream and makes the way he just randomly shows up make more sense
Would love to see Dante Meet Cloud in an official way especially Dante after 5 meeting Cloud after advent children
I'm sure Yu from persona 4 would do fine in dmc5.
To be fair you can put any persona 3 4 or 5 protag in dmc and they'd be perfectly fine anyway. Them mfs are BROKEN
What the fuck. I've beaten DMC 10 times and I NEVER saw Gilgamesh rip a beyblade before.
Yh, me to. They really didn't deliver with that boss fight
We need more could they need to survive videos cause they are awesome
2:49 Oh hell nah. Now I'm motivated to play ff7
Artemis: Cloud will use Haste and Stop- But Final Fantasy Bosses- *Remembers that this is happening in DMC5 where Bosses aren't immune to Status Effects.* Never mind.
i love that he never once mentioned that all of clouds magic and summons require MP which is extremely limited and higher tier/LVL magic requires much more MP then there low tier counterparts
Gameplay mechanics usually don't come into play in these kind of thought experiments
Considering the amount of Weapons, Armour, Accessories, Materia, Stat buffs (from Materia, Weapons, Accessories and Armor including Physical/Magic/Elemental stat buffs for damage/resistance) on top of the Levels Cloud would have at Max Level the MP Consumption isn't an issue by any means.
Mind you this is just FF7 PS1 Cloud as Advent Children Cloud would be far superior (since he mentioned Advent Children) and Dirge of Cerberus Cloud is Superior to Advent Children Cloud.
The Ribbon 🎀 from FF7 protects from ALL abnormal effects the enemy would/could throw at Cloud so anyone trying to use time based abilities, poison etc on Cloud wouldn't work. The Protect Ring 💍 starts him off at the beginning of every battle with a automatic Barrier and Magic Barrier setup so there's defense for that which the Protect Ring 💍 does a automatic Reflect at the beginning of every battle. Then there's MP Absorb Material which restores Clouds MP which HP Absorb Materia would do the same for his Health. Both MP or HP Absorb Materia when paired with Master Command Materia makes it so that Regular Attacks by itself will restore Cloud with every strike landed let alone his Limit Breaks and Spells/Summons.
Cloud literally has everything at his disposal to easily coast through DMC5
Crimson cloudddd. Evening the skyyyy
Cloud dies in his first encounter with Urizen. Let alone Vergil. Hell, those demons that teleport are probably too much for Cloud. There's a lot of those lower ranked demons who are pretty broken lore wise.
Yes cloud will get clapped by a MiniBoss demon
@@saidbrizzo2187 unfortunately there's no mini Boss demon in the prolong, the first boss is Urizen.. So GG.. Cloud 💀
...your definitely underselling Cloud, Lady is just a "normal" person with a big gun and Cloud is a super soldier with a big sword
@wwalton Nope, Lady is not normal. Her mother was magical in some capacity, which is what gives her super strength and speed. Her weapons are also enchanted. Her dad may have also passed some properties down to her as well, but I'm not sure.
@@wwalton to be more accurate, Lady is "the descendant of a legendary priestest who Sparda sacrificed to seal Temen Ni Gru"
Aw, I was hoping to learn more about Aizen's hidden Master Plan.
Guess I'll have to buy the DLC to find out what happens.
Kudos to Cloud for making it as far as he got but to take on Vergil or Dante you’d have to be the other ( or I guess Nero can give them a decent match) as they are pretty much the only ones who stand a change against each other.
i'm fine with this, except the detail about blade beam being grounded since in rebirth cloud can uses them on his regular attacks on the ground and in the air, but i'm assuming you were talking about the actual blade beam skill. There is also an entire list of additional spells/ skills that rebirth gives you like said revival spells, but assuming this takes before that point so fair enough, there is still asses and other statuses that cloud very well could have access to before he gets brought there, aswell as special equipment that helps him resist said statuses if similar strategies were used against him.
on a separate note, what about advent children cloud, surely the use of the other blades and fusion bade would atleast Help namely to counter the spectral blade attacks Virgil and Dante have.
Yaknow what a good one could be? Team Snakemouth from Bug Fables versus Hollow Knight. Personally, i feel like they could handle the majority of the campaign, aside from Radiance.
OH! I have a few.
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and lastly
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Cloud can spam re raise if he wants and use osmosis to regain mp.
My prediction before watching: I think the info in the Vergil v. sephiroth/Cloud v. Link Death Battles were accurate, based on that I think Cloud would easily survive up until DMC 4. DMC 5 has a pretty significant power boost though, likewise this is "can he survive DMC 5" not "can he beat Dante" or "can he beat Urizen".
I think he could survive easily. The only real challenges are Nightmare and Urizen, and if regular no DT/Bringer Nero can survive Urizen so can Cloud. Plus the way Mako and souls function so similarly Cloud comes in with a strong advantage, even with just the DB setup he has far greater control options than anyone in DMC and if there's a way to power it with souls then every enemy is a source of MP.
Dude DMC4 Vergil stills being a multiversal menace is confirmes that vergil only losed against Mundus Because he was tired after fighting dante
@@saidbrizzo2187 People still misinterpreting the mundus statement is wild. He wasn’t talking about a mundus at full power just the floating red eyes and that statement was made when he was much stronger. A DMC3 Vergil with no Force Edge beating Mundus is utterly laughable and makes 0 sense in terms of narrative and power scaling. It took an older Dante with the Sparda and a mental amp from seeing Trish “die”
to just *barely* beat him and people think teen Vergil with just Yamato is doing that? The entire reason he went out of his way to get the force edge was so he could beat Mundus
@@LegendaryOverfiendif you look at the dmc light novels
Its implied dante did not struggle at all to defeat mundus with spardas power
not to shit on nero but he didn't survive shit 💀💀
as for making him stand up that's actually an extremely impressive feat since even dante couldn't do that at the start of the game and urizen got stronger while waiting for the fruit to form , they all just grew stronger in between 2 fights
Like balan wonder world fits sora it’s about helping people and making new friends like sora
Summon Knights of the Round!
Can you do could P (From lies of P) become the Elden Lord in Elden Ring?
in 2 points i would feel it might occur differently,
1. knowing both Dante and Cloud they would fight each other before even get to Vergil only to decide who fight first, is a slim chance they understand each other but then again he gain friends along the way, so he might just step in either Dante loses or to save Dante giving time for him to recover a bit.
2. while it's true Nero ends the fight Vergil was worned out from the fight with Dante, also even with his devil Trigger Nero is not as strong as Dante or Vergil on their fullest .
I feel like shit for saying this, but cloud can't even clear Empusa, thanks to the novels, we know that to kill a demon, you need to erase their name and concept. Something Cloud can't do, speed wise he's also blitzed by nearly everything given they all scale to Dante... who himself is so fast he can supposedly bypass the time Axis. He could survive 100% however, by staying the fuck away from demonic bullshit like a normal human.
Oh come on could sora survive balan wonder world would be fun
Cloud doesn't have soul manipulation so he wouldn't even kill the first empusa. Demons in DMC are able to regenerate from their souls.
We forgot to mention bapamut
Hmm, Cloud probably wouldn't survive without help against heavy hitters like Urizen or Vergil, still think that he'll go super far. Unless we are talking about Dissidia 012 Cloud Strife, then that's kind of different. That version of him has a better chance. But I think he gets stone walled by Vergil, whom gonna stop playing with his food around a lot sooner. The Sons of Sparda are built different after all.
On this topic tho, I am curious of how far FFXIV's Warrior of Light/Darkness would go in DMC5.
Or an easier way... Download the mod to change Nero's Model in DMC V to Cloud and you're done.
Blood thing he Rouga Rabid
Honestly he would be fine.
He would more fine if this is Post Advent Children Cloud.
He doesn’t make it past urizen 💀
Good job guys 23 minutes and not a single cloud filling trishs dark soul with light joke.
Cloud can definitely Walk through this game.
Nero , dante , Vergil wouldn't survive ff
Will you do “Can Nero survive final fantasy VII?”
Great video
Why didn't you just use the PC mode of cloud? So you could show him fighting in the devil may cry world.
I have an idea could sora survive in balan wonder world
I don’t think I could survive playing through Balan Wonderworld.
Oh cmon it’ll be fun
Considering the Vergil fight, you mentioned that he and Cloud would match blow for blow in his base form, and you never differentiated, or explained, what would happen beyond that.
Vergil's DT, giving him insane stat buffs (attack, defense, speed, combo+), on top of continuous health regen, would VERY quickly dominate anything Cloud could dish out.
However, that would get even worse for Cloud when you include Vergil's OTHER DT trick, the Doppleganger, which comes out as a DT double of himself, which he can combine with his DT normally. Imagine having to fight not only one Vergil, but two. Cloud simply stood no chance.
Question
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What if Cloud steals the Wish Seed from Urizen/Vergil?
We can interpret that Cloud would likely gain some form of Demonic Power and Vergil would be weaker without the power-up.
We could assume that Cloud gains some form of Healing & Attack Buff in this scenario, but no trigger. Would it be enough now?
The fruit only works on demons
The fruit is just highly condensed blood of millions of humans, human blood powers up demons. A human would probably die or something if it ate such a concentrated amount of blood
cloud shall consume the seed of sparda instead
@@Kedilaa Except no Devil Trigger allowed, otherwise that changes the scenario.
I got a feeling that vergil would go "you dont belong here" and stab cloud to death.
Cloud is superhuman. He could probably handle demons.
What would be the equivalent of Devil Trigger Cloud? Is it his limit break?
Cloud is probably super durable as well since wielding a weapon that large would put a lot of strain on his body.
Cloud would destroy Monster House from the inside.
He swapped places with Nero? Are we going to have Could Nero Survive Final Fantasy 7?
3:21 Aizen is involved too XD?
11:18 Cloud: Oh shit! 13:02 Get help.
14:16 🎶I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING!🎶
I lied.
Bayonetta's time altering abilities were countered by Dante's.
Wait a minute. Sephiroth defeated Vergil and Cloud defeated him.
Just the fact that Lady is a unit despite just having a bunch of guns tells me enough on that lmao
The thing is:
A fully kitted out Cloud could absolutely curve stomp Vergil in DM5
The issue here is cloud isn't gonna find power ups, upgrades to his buster sword, materia, etc and has no team mates
Cloud would basically only be able to level up which is basically just doing a really annoying run of FF7
Could he do it?
I doubt it
Vergil is just such an unending force and Cloud has nothing that can put him down.
A fully kitted out cloud and sephiroth TOGETHER would get oneshot by a serious vergil
Like, the verse scaling of ff7 vs dmc is ridiculous
Dmc1 dante massively outscales cloud
Without a doubt Cloud solos Devil May Cry
Tell me you don't know DMC Lore Without telling me you don't know DMC lore
Cap
Sephiroth alone gave Cloud PTSD 💀 Imagine what Vergil would do to him, hopefully not ripping his arm off 💀💀
@@Omega-jg4oq looks like someone doesn't know Advent Children Cloud
He stomps
@@saidbrizzo2187 and you don't Final Fantasy
More or less I agree with this vid, tho you were very kind to cloud's skill and AP