“If I had a nickel for everytime Manchukou won the game for the Axis through sheer quantity of Submarines, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.”
@@TheColdOnez tbf they were pushing, if Sealion lasted even a week longer I think the situation would've been salvageable. Although axis could've been smarter and started to pull over Atlantic wall garrisons earlier to form a better line since there's no way the allies could go into France.
@@helwrecht1637I play a lot of HOI4 and while the Germans do get a lot of buffs, the Allies doesn't need buffs to win since they tend to outbuild the Axis in these games. The Allies were just eating rocks in this game and they also completely forgot to factor in the Manchurian Submarine Corps.
Quick headcount, that naval battle in the North Sea easily had around 250-300 ships on both sides that engaged, probably more. Around 150 from both sides were sunk, not including aircraft. In terms of raw numbers, this would probably rank within the top 3 largest naval battles in human history by volume of ships and sailors, since even ships as small as destroyers had over 100 crew members minimum.
@@clashthegamer4873 Oh absolutely. Even ancient naval battles, such as Cape Ecnomus and Red Cliffs, are still remembered today for their insane sizes despite the fact their numbers could be totally made up due to sources being potentially biased or having very little go on. But then you can look at more modern battles, like Leyte Gulf, which also had insane numbers but is considerably more accurate due to more modern record keeping and bureaucracy. This battle would be on par with the numbers of Leyte Gulf.
Could picture it being like the space battle over coruscant. So many ships being so pack together doing broadsides and a heck ton of bombers and fighters. I wouldn't be suprised if some of the ship even decided to ram eachother.
@@ArrangedKarmatbf its a lot easier to build 1000 ships when those ships are small wooden craft that hold 100 men max, compared to Megaton steel behemoths
Every single stretch of water had a Manchurian sub; bet the Allies who crossed into Russia were thinking that submarines were waiting in every single inland Soviet marsh ala "Do you see torpedo boats?".
@@daniielah.7569 Basically, the Allies couldn't D-Day, Americans were dying left and right just leaving their continent and Manchuria had over 400 steel BEFORE getting the rest of China
The subs won the war because the supplies to other allies fucked by their constant raiding. Not being able to project supremacy is a crippling thing but not being able to send shit to the Soviets or others is a death sentence. Hell even trading becomes nigh-impossible given enough subs.
Troops need supplies or they suffer significant penalties both in combat and as part of attrition. Those supplies require convoy boats that are the prime diet of submarines. Manchuko raided the shit out of the convoys. With the loss of UK, it basically meant allied troops were walking around hungry and half naked unable to fight or give resources to prop up the USSR
He's talking about the Manchurian sub spam not the naval battle. Also since the Allied Fleets got wiped by Germany they can't go anywhere without getting raided by Manchurian subs.
@@massivecent3729 yes and no, I played tfb where the uk still has their fleet but no asw's left and still lost because of it. The main navy can't kill subs and it takes too long to produce enough asw's and navel bombers to kill them because the subs will kill destroyers if their numbers aren't great enough. No supply kills you, but it was the fleet that prevented them from focusing on asw's that won the game too because they had to concentrate on keeping up with the german and italian navies. TLDR: No supply = gg
"Ohh and Manchukou spammed over 400 submarines to melt the allied braincells" Me - Quickly checks the date to make sure I didn't get recommended a classic from years ago.
A 17 minute Bokoen HOI4 video!! A merry Christmas indeed!!! Genuinely one of the best games I've seen, going for Sealion before Barbarossa feels like such a risk, but you pulled it off and then Romania even managed to hold against the entire Soviet army.. and that battle off Doggerland! Holy shit!
This is definitely a peak hoi4 game, this vid felt like a destined axis loss in the beginning, then the Sealion truth nuke obliterating Braun, the Soviets somehow getting pushed, and the giant fleet battle at the end forcing the Allies to crumble near-instantly.
I'm pretty sure Germany always started with Hartmann as an Ace. At least since Man the Guns because I remember putting him on my squadron and 5 mins later getting a message that he was shot down lmao
Guys, I think Bo is the navy guy again with that battle against the American fleet at the end 15:39. Let us pray he keeps being the navy guy, and doesn’t embarrass himself again by feeding the Japanese fleet during Tora Tora, amen.
From (how i thought) complete thow, to fucking sealion and Hungary holding soviets with 40 divissions and America calling it in after throwing all of the fleet they had, amazing script bokoen
This is one of the most exciting games I've ever seen Bo & co do. Every single moment was tense and uncertain, yet almost every gamble and risk paid off successfully and satisfyingly.
0:32 Eric Hartmann has 352 aerial victories to be exact. However, like most German aces during WWII, he despised the Nazis as he joined the Luftwaffe to help defend Germany.
If I remember correctly he was a post war proponent of the clean Wehrmacht myth so still not a great guy morally speaking. And people tend to romanticize aces like him despite the fact that the evidence for their legend is often pretty shaky, Axis pilots and tank commanders loved to inflate their kill numbers so I'd still take his claimed kills with a grain of salt.
Gentlemen. I regret to inform everyone that it is a sad day today, for we all must reluctantly…….. give Bokoen1, “the navy guy” title back. He gained back his championship title after being an absolute “Sealion” with the Italy in absolutely decking and obliterating the combined allied fleets. Amazing work Bo, now just dont crossdress again and maybe you’ll be too guy again with no snake of Denmark accusations.
all the insanity going on in this game that massive sea battle and it was the manchu's that won them the game in the end with his 80 quadrillion(real amount btw) subs anyway, as much as i hate golden for his bs he was surprisingly tame this time, never thought i'd be rooting for him to win.
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“If I had a nickel for everytime Manchukou won the game for the Axis through sheer quantity of Submarines, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.”
Dude, I remember that time. So much submarines...
The power of china
Yeah, those submarines are something else
It was a big deal, but given that Bo won all the big naval battles, they were always gonna lose, submarines or no.
What video was that again?
How do you force a late war like that by ruining the German tree and still get Sealioned and lose? Classic Braun UK moment
Absolutely insane that the Soviets couldn't push a frontline with only 40 divisions protecting it.
@@TheColdOnez tbf they were pushing, if Sealion lasted even a week longer I think the situation would've been salvageable.
Although axis could've been smarter and started to pull over Atlantic wall garrisons earlier to form a better line since there's no way the allies could go into France.
He really did just let the Germans land and walk in lol
German bias
@@helwrecht1637I play a lot of HOI4 and while the Germans do get a lot of buffs, the Allies doesn't need buffs to win since they tend to outbuild the Axis in these games.
The Allies were just eating rocks in this game and they also completely forgot to factor in the Manchurian Submarine Corps.
Quick headcount, that naval battle in the North Sea easily had around 250-300 ships on both sides that engaged, probably more.
Around 150 from both sides were sunk, not including aircraft.
In terms of raw numbers, this would probably rank within the top 3 largest naval battles in human history by volume of ships and sailors, since even ships as small as destroyers had over 100 crew members minimum.
That's actually the kind of historical battle that would go down in a country's history for a millennia at least.
@@clashthegamer4873 Oh absolutely.
Even ancient naval battles, such as Cape Ecnomus and Red Cliffs, are still remembered today for their insane sizes despite the fact their numbers could be totally made up due to sources being potentially biased or having very little go on.
But then you can look at more modern battles, like Leyte Gulf, which also had insane numbers but is considerably more accurate due to more modern record keeping and bureaucracy.
This battle would be on par with the numbers of Leyte Gulf.
Could picture it being like the space battle over coruscant.
So many ships being so pack together doing broadsides and a heck ton of bombers and fighters. I wouldn't be suprised if some of the ship even decided to ram eachother.
5 carriers and 17 battleships from the allies went down there, with 4 BBs from the axis
@@ArrangedKarmatbf its a lot easier to build 1000 ships when those ships are small wooden craft that hold 100 men max, compared to Megaton steel behemoths
Getting flashbacks to that one video where Manchuria was absolutely busted and prevented any possible dday
Every single stretch of water had a Manchurian sub; bet the Allies who crossed into Russia were thinking that submarines were waiting in every single inland Soviet marsh ala "Do you see torpedo boats?".
Someone was playing Stellaris while the rest was playing HoI4
what video was this?
@@daniielah.7569 What if Finland won the Continuation War
@@daniielah.7569 Basically, the Allies couldn't D-Day, Americans were dying left and right just leaving their continent and Manchuria had over 400 steel BEFORE getting the rest of China
Germany: *Tries to befriend Czechoslovakia.*
The Allies: "Wait, that's illegal!".
Of course it was Braun and of course he doubled down
The allies pulled a euromaiden lol
I thought this was gonna be a Golden Germany, but with the intro giving blame to the allies, you have to know Bo is cooping as well.
Tbh, this game was Braun being a dick over anything Golden did.
@@rhysofsneezingdragon1758 honestly though, when isn't Braun a dick, that's a core personality trait
@@rhysofsneezingdragon1758Braun has a raging hate boner for Golden
Need a naval romania build for bo to truly say hes the master of navy
Wrong, only once he's mastered naval Hungary can he be a true Navy Guy™
Pretty sure I remember such a script.
@@adamperdue3178 which one?
there was a naval romania bo game, it didnt end well tho
@@jacobmartin1100Hungary does start with an admiral in charge so it only makes sense
Oh no not the menchuko sub strat, not again.
this went from nothing ever happens to everything fucking happens holy shit
“Put 50 factories on motherships. Figure it out.” I see Speer is about as reasonable as his predecessor.
Also Speer: “WHERE IS ALL OUR STEEL GOING!?”
I see I still don't understand how this game works. I just watched their navy get annihilated and they say "The subs won the war"
The subs won the war because the supplies to other allies fucked by their constant raiding. Not being able to project supremacy is a crippling thing but not being able to send shit to the Soviets or others is a death sentence. Hell even trading becomes nigh-impossible given enough subs.
Troops need supplies or they suffer significant penalties both in combat and as part of attrition. Those supplies require convoy boats that are the prime diet of submarines. Manchuko raided the shit out of the convoys. With the loss of UK, it basically meant allied troops were walking around hungry and half naked unable to fight or give resources to prop up the USSR
He's talking about the Manchurian sub spam not the naval battle. Also since the Allied Fleets got wiped by Germany they can't go anywhere without getting raided by Manchurian subs.
hes trolling the surface fleet won the war
@@massivecent3729 yes and no, I played tfb where the uk still has their fleet but no asw's left and still lost because of it. The main navy can't kill subs and it takes too long to produce enough asw's and navel bombers to kill them because the subs will kill destroyers if their numbers aren't great enough. No supply kills you, but it was the fleet that prevented them from focusing on asw's that won the game too because they had to concentrate on keeping up with the german and italian navies. TLDR: No supply = gg
"Ohh and Manchukou spammed over 400 submarines to melt the allied braincells"
Me - Quickly checks the date to make sure I didn't get recommended a classic from years ago.
A 17 minute Bokoen HOI4 video!! A merry Christmas indeed!!!
Genuinely one of the best games I've seen, going for Sealion before Barbarossa feels like such a risk, but you pulled it off and then Romania even managed to hold against the entire Soviet army.. and that battle off Doggerland! Holy shit!
Title card says good about the Germany? Clearly a Bokoen Germany. Truly the Snake of Denmark complimenting himself
It was actually a Golden-Bokoen Germany, which honestly shocks me.
The fact they soft locked golden until 1940 and he still somehow won is hilarious as fuck
This is definitely a peak hoi4 game, this vid felt like a destined axis loss in the beginning, then the Sealion truth nuke obliterating Braun, the Soviets somehow getting pushed, and the giant fleet battle at the end forcing the Allies to crumble near-instantly.
Best episode in a while. I was on the edge of my seat. I wish we saw even more perspectives from it especially Hungary's
Missed opportunity to call this one “The Second Battle of Jutland”. Raeder was even at the first!
Bo taking liberties with the paragraph text intro ☠️☠️
Golden has the midas touch. One might even say he is the Midiest Toucher.
Bo is literally a master of propaganda, literally Joseph Bobbels
Boebbels?
I'm pretty sure Germany always started with Hartmann as an Ace. At least since Man the Guns because I remember putting him on my squadron and 5 mins later getting a message that he was shot down lmao
Guys, I think Bo is the navy guy again with that battle against the American fleet at the end 15:39. Let us pray he keeps being the navy guy, and doesn’t embarrass himself again by feeding the Japanese fleet during Tora Tora, amen.
Admiral Frank Jack Fletcher here, can confirm Mountbatten threw that naval battle in the North Sea
This just kept getting better and better! What a CLIMAX!
I can just imagine the pollution that the sea is going to be suffering with all of those sunken ships man
If the Kriegsmarine wasn't rushing in Fjords in 1939.
Dönitz out there avenging the battle of Jutland.
Our favorite Dane has returned to his rightful place, the ocean and the North Sea at that.
Long live the Navy guy.
The return of the Manchurian Wolf-Armada...
Props to Braun for accurately replacing Hitler with Speer in the speech bubbles after Golden replaced the Fuhrer.
I love how Bo had to include the part about him being appart of the Hitler flying youth past the 1 minute mark so the algo didnt penalyise him XD
From (how i thought) complete thow, to fucking sealion and Hungary holding soviets with 40 divissions and America calling it in after throwing all of the fleet they had, amazing script bokoen
Not hungary, third German player, Hungary did help but Weekend was the main guy in the East.
The Golden Fleet of Manchukuo lives forever in infamy.
5 fucking fleet carriers sunk, even Midway was not that disastrous
Honestly one the best games and videos Bo has ever done. 17 minutes of fun for us thx Bo and Freinds for this banger!
That's some Pacific Federation level strategic planning from the Allies, losing half the Navy in a single battle.
Looks like throwkoen1 has officially reclaimed his title of navy master after somehow singlehandedly defeating 4 allied navies in the same battle
This is literally the best vid of the year, the whole thing is a highlight reel. Amazing work bestkoen1
I am still in awe that despite everything this was an axis win
I'm a simple man
I see navy in the thumbnail
I click
Them not being able to win any fights despite overwhelming majority makes sense after hearing the raiding numbers.
Yet another Golden victory through the power of friendship and letting Bo handle the navy. You love to see it.
Holy fuck, so this is what was that game. I came on stream late and only saw the landing in England. The battle at the end was something
*-1200 rubber* "I don't care Speer, figure it out!" had me dying. What a game.
This is one of the most exciting games I've ever seen Bo & co do. Every single moment was tense and uncertain, yet almost every gamble and risk paid off successfully and satisfyingly.
*Manchukou submarine strat is already the most overused piece of scripting in the cinematic cockoen universe*
ah the classic manchukou sub spam, I remember seeing this back when man the guns had just came out
Germany failing to flip Czechoslovakia fascist gives me echoes of Dressel failing to annex the Sudetenland.
0:32
Eric Hartmann has 352 aerial victories to be exact. However, like most German aces during WWII, he despised the Nazis as he joined the Luftwaffe to help defend Germany.
If I remember correctly he was a post war proponent of the clean Wehrmacht myth so still not a great guy morally speaking. And people tend to romanticize aces like him despite the fact that the evidence for their legend is often pretty shaky, Axis pilots and tank commanders loved to inflate their kill numbers so I'd still take his claimed kills with a grain of salt.
He probably made that up after the war to avoid going to trial
I think it's safe to call this a bokoen1 classic
Bro this game was so deranged and I love it.
Holy HELL what a game! If this is the last Hoi vid for the year, what a banger to end off on🔥
Nice to see nothing has changed for Braun in 7 years
Holy fucking shit, that was Leyte Gulf levels of Navy battle.
oh boy a golden special this will be good
The navy guys is truly back!
The Snake of Denmark blesses us with another CLASSIC game as a Christmas gift
Probably one of the best games I’ve ever watched
This is literally what happened in TNO during Sealion LMAOOO
"Manchuko spammed 400 subs"
Hey I've seen this before!
Braun has to be baiting, his arguments were like incoherent lol
With the new dlc Paradox saw the bokoen1 scripts and just said "this guy is onto something"
That was one of the finest naval battle ever.
The naval guy is so back
@4:05 Well, Braun knows best about these types of things
This victory is a true christmas miracle! GG Bo, happy holidays and see you in the new year!
Gentlemen. I regret to inform everyone that it is a sad day today, for we all must reluctantly…….. give Bokoen1, “the navy guy” title back. He gained back his championship title after being an absolute “Sealion” with the Italy in absolutely decking and obliterating the combined allied fleets.
Amazing work Bo, now just dont crossdress again and maybe you’ll be too guy again with no snake of Denmark accusations.
Bo going full Plan Z larp. I like it.
Jutland 2: Electric Boogaloo
An instant classic game in the bokoen cinematic universe
That was Largest Naval battle 2.0 holy shit!!!!
Every time, the text gets longer, but Bo refuses to make it smaller. It's so funny.
The Manchuko Sub Strat is proof that the enemy never expects a script to be reused 😂
"Here's how Manchukuo could've won WW2"
probably one of the hypest games ever
Death, Taxes and Manchuko submarine spam.
certainly one of the most interesting hoi4 videos ive seen here
Was that a 2md battle of Jotland Heights 😂
I want to point out that this game... I was New Zealand, and I was probably the ONLY one who did ASWs :D
The North Sea has drawn them near
The fleet of the High Seas approach
They got fucking nuclear reactors in the naval base
Bismarck II boutta go nuts
This video had me sit in front of my pc applauding. Nice plays.
this is one of the bokoens of all 1
After reading that intro I told myself “please tell me Golden is Germany.” I am so happy.
Another Golden W
Just had the worst Hoi4 lobby of my life. Thanks for giving me hope I can find some decent people in this community ❤
Navy Bo is back for this one.
That naval battle was insane!
Golden with the Czech throw and Jake in with the subs save!
Bo bringing Freedom to Ireland.
One V3 at a time
this a throwback to the finnish victory in the continuation war video you posted
Ofc it's a Golden Germany.
Holy this was pure content 😂
Is Bo using parts of the script from “What if Finland won the continuation war”
all the insanity going on in this game that massive sea battle and it was the manchu's that won them the game in the end with his 80 quadrillion(real amount btw) subs
anyway, as much as i hate golden for his bs he was surprisingly tame this time, never thought i'd be rooting for him to win.
NAVY AND GOTTERDAMERUNG TIME LES GOOO
17 min video. We’re so back!!!
Good lord, I have never seen that many ships in one battle