One of my Patreons wrote a great summary - thanks Ricardo: "To summarize, instead of using white, pink and brown to make the transparent yellow stronger, one can simply work “normally” with a layer approach when using purple as complimentary to desaturate, hence paint shadows. Best of all, the palette doesn’t increase and all painted parts have pigments they share and so, are much more workable and natural? " - YES! Hope you enjoy this video as much as I enjoyed creating it!
I really enjoyed this. I think i will stop army painting for a while and get back to painting small character models like this. What i enjoyed the most was your painting was absolutely free from indoctrination. No Recipes, no general solutions, no "only this color will work". Free as art should be - thanks :)
Small monolog coming: Its very freeing to watch you paint and overall approach, I used to paint more "freely" and working in "wet" when I got back to the hobby 7ish years ago and for some reason got away from it after I learned more. And after a hiatus of since the beginning of the year I got some time and sat down to paint and used your approach and it was so satisfying and fun to paint. I just want to say thank you for showing your way and sharing with others. 🙌
I thank you for your comment and time to write such beautiful words. Fun to paint and being satisfied, this is where my heart, approach and message is home. Glad you found it!
Thank you very much, this lesson about yellow allowed me to finally find an answer to my question about red and it's shadow colour. I tried violet and brown didn't liked the result. It's been a while, but now i an encouraged to experiment with green!
Beautifully realised yellow colour scheme Roman, thank you for sharing! the fluid and instinctual approach to mini painting is a pure joy to watch and just goes to show painting should be FUN and CREATIVE after all we are the only one's who create bounderies within our painting process we should push those bounderies and explore our creativity. Thanks Roman as always an inspiration!
Thank you for the extension to your colour theory. Which was something that opened doors for me. The explanation "clicked" for me in a way that others didn't. I can see a yellow squig experiment happening soon.
Thank you for this, another great tutorial. Even after L+ years painting I'm always happy to pick up new or rather better concepts in painting. Hope to see you at SMC. Best Regards Mike (Dragonsreach) Dodds.
@@TheDragonsreach glad you enjoyed this, Mike. Unfortunately I won't make to SMC. Between Golden Demon and Monte I am not able to add one more show due family and vacation plans :/
I liked how there are art vibes to your viseo, but also a bit of fun and entertainment (deeeeeep turquoisssse!) while remaining informative and meaningful. Maybe the part that moved me was your dad memories. It added a lot and gave me a positive feel even though my mother passed away days ago. What I wanted to say with that (hoping not to be to sound excessive) is that feelings are a big deal in your workflow, or at least I feel it that way, and kinda resonate within me. I sometimes feel like a wooden plank in the sea once I'm painting. That's why I liked the final colour adjustments at the end: I can't ever paint the same colour twice the same way. I wish I was more efficient. I wish I had muscle memory to repeat a yellow recipe that "works". Or a red one, whatever. But I paint going back and forth... pushing into success, then slightly ruining it... the going back to the right track. Till final adjustments. It's like I can't learn and hold back any bit of knowledge after decades of painting. Or maybe it's my brain who wants results, but my soul needs to play in the mud with colour, like a 6 yrs old kid. Thanks for keeping doing vids Roman. The tips and these moments you've been sharing for years now, be it via Web, whatever. Much appreciated. But not as much appreciated to drop the euro, you squirrel ! Just kidding. Danke!
Happy you enjoy the style of my vidoes. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I am sorry to hear about your loss and sent out my condolences. It is something that is part of life, yet I did not encounter it and have deepest respect to it and all the emotions attached. It is a fire I am not looking to burn in ... but it will come one day as so is life. I am happy that my emotions in my painting shows and I am glad that you sound like you are getting something out of it. Do not worry, I do too. Going back and forth, all the time. But I stopped to overthink it. It is ok to not paint the same yellow or the same red all the time. Why should we care, in the end it is yellow or red. I do have the same process you descrive. Totally. Sounds like you know your way of painting, but do not accept to follow it straight... I mean it sounds like you know who you are as a painter. Just paint like it. Sometimes like a 6 yrs old and sometimes with high goals. It is all ok. Just do what you want. You are the kind of your creations. No one else. Glad you appreciate my content and creations :) Keep on happy painting! Roman
Really good video Roman, I was doing something like similar, a sketch with the yellow transition and then using glazes, but never ocurred to me the tip with the purple, will put it to the test as soon as I can! ty
Very interesting to see that different people come to more or less same conclusions in a different ways. I'm a very beginner painter and on top of that, chosen yellow as my main color for Aeldari army. Boy, what a mistake it was. They only saving grace where Aspect Warriors who I painted in their Aspect colors and that made things not as misserable but also allowed me see how insanely difficult yellow to paint compared with other colors. That it is not just me not being good at painting. But I never gave up on yellow. Slowly experimenting. And recently, I came up with Nazdreg Yellow as main undercoat color. Which is similar to what shown in this video. Just heavy drybrushing Flasgitz yellow on top of it gave a quite interesting but also flawed result. And I could see that this is the path forward. But I was lacking ideas and time to experiment further. What I saw here in regards of working colors up is something I have been looking for. Sort of a new inspiration. Thank you!
So very happy to read your comment. Sounds like you discovered the same on your own. Lovely! Yeah, I am not sure if I do like all the color names different brands use. I mean it is all based on a principle of color theory and I would prefer to see beginners learn this first and then use their hobby paints and pots with way more knowledge ... Happy that this brought you new inspiration and thumbs up - you are on the right track then! Keep on happy painting!
This was very helpful! Any chance you will be doing a similar video on orange? I'm curious if the same approach works, since it is a secondary color and its compliment is blue.
Hi Roman, great work as always. I had a question about the style you paint. At 17:43 the miniature up close looks like the paint is thick and you can heavily see your brushstrokes, like your other video speedpainting the woman with a briefcase. I am used to seeing other painters doing smooth thin layers but I like the way yours looks too. Is there a reason you paint in this way?
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Sure I try to find the right answer for your question: Well, I call it style. I could also paint thin, diluted for achieving a smooth surface. I do not like this anymore. I have been there done that and appreciate my brushstrokes with thicker paint a lot more as they give interest and character to my painting. When all is smooth, it often looks boring in my eyes. This is just my personal perspective and no offense meant in the direction of any style. I do not say one style is better than the other. I also have a twelve new ideas a day, with my approach I am faster to get these ideas into the world. I am not a fan of painting only three miniatures a year that are smooth. Instead I want to bang out my ideas and enjoy the energies of my brushstrokes. This - unfortanetely - does not work if you paint thin, diluted and smooth. There is no chance to make brushstrokes visible ... all a matter of perspective, choice and where you find the most joy in painting. Hope this answer was helpful!
Great video Roman thank you! I have a question relating to the colour theory explained here. What if we reversed the colours here... so the space marine was violet colour... would you still use yellow for the shadows?
@@Kitty-wc9or I could give a quick answer or I could ask you to give it a try on paper to make your very own experiment. I go with the experiment. Tell me what you find out! Really good thoughts!
So i had a play... in my experiment it did not work for shadows but the gradient would woek nicely for introducing a warm light source on a purple object! Then i realised i have done this on a purple goblin i am painting in sunset! 😅
Your camera is very shaky when you're painting. Do you have it mounted to the table? That might explain it, since every time you're touching the table the camera shakes.
It was 20Y ago, but I was at least taught that yellow doesn’t have a dark tone. Past mustard, you have to make it work with the violet compliment or brown
I have had a while back a very strange conversation with someone very active in miniature painting community that this sort of brown undershading always looks muddy and terrible, that no competition level painter would ever do anything to shade yellow except for orange. I said "but surely a cold temperature yellow exists" and it was explained that no, not for competitive painters, it is like music where only Sharp exists for the note F. Interesting to see this is not the case, though i had a hunch of that at the time. 😂
Thank you for the little insight. Well this sounds like someone who is deeply routed in the system of competition level painters. I heard that there are "unique rules" that only matter for competition level painting. I am just painting and enjoying it. I do have to oppinion that there is more to painting miniatures than pointing out that competition level painting is the pineacle of miniature art. It is one way, so is painting liberated from it. Both have their audience, their right to exist and their lessons. Both will expand if learning from eachother, but not saying that one is better than the other. Seems like this person has still a lot to learn when it comes to painting, not competition level painting ... thanks for the kind comment :)
Oh dear I got no idea what I mixed there. I think it was some warm violet yes plus a bit of yellow and maybe a drop of orange. For the basic color. To highlight I added more orange and later more yellow/white ... Now I am curious if pink and violet would do the same, but unfortanetely I am not in the studio today. I am at the desk in the home office. Hope you give it a try!
Happy to hear that! Yes, I am actually checking back with consistency and flow on my hand. You can also do on a tissue as you see prefer. I do it on my thumb as I do not have to look at it anymore. It is some kind of "feeling" palette for me in the meantime, that saves me about 5 Minutes of time a day on the painting clock. In a full year this is quite a lot of time and as time is the only currency that matters in life I am happy about his hack ...
@@ROMANLAPPATMINIATUREART thank you again, for all the information and help you give everyone, new to this hobby/addiction and with a million and one questions myself, i know what its like
Merci! The reason is simple: The way from shadow to saturation is much easier than the other way around. If the pigments come from one mixture all over they interact well and the shadows can be implemented softly with a lot of control.
I like my brushstrokes visible and powerful. Not sad that you do not like my way of painting nor the outcome. I know that not everyone likes my way of painting and I am fine with it. I care for the ones who do. Sometimes I think too clean and neat is boring and a little messy could make it more interesting / more energised / more alive. Perspectives. Thank you for yours!
Hey! Thank you for your perspective - here is mine: I like my brushstrokes visible and powerful. Not sad that you do not like my way of painting nor the outcome. I know that not everyone likes my way of painting and I am fine with it. I care for the ones who do. Sometimes I think too clean and neat is boring and a little messy could make it more interesting / more energised / more alive. Perspectives. Thank you for yours!
One of my Patreons wrote a great summary - thanks Ricardo: "To summarize, instead of using white, pink and brown to make the transparent yellow stronger, one can simply work “normally” with a layer approach when using purple as complimentary to desaturate, hence paint shadows. Best of all, the palette doesn’t increase and all painted parts have pigments they share and so, are much more workable and natural? " - YES!
Hope you enjoy this video as much as I enjoyed creating it!
My pleasure!
"they are holding their hands" is the most wholesome description of color harmony ever
:)
I really enjoyed this. I think i will stop army painting for a while and get back to painting small character models like this. What i enjoyed the most was your painting was absolutely free from indoctrination. No Recipes, no general solutions, no "only this color will work". Free as art should be - thanks :)
😃😍🥰
Small monolog coming: Its very freeing to watch you paint and overall approach, I used to paint more "freely" and working in "wet" when I got back to the hobby 7ish years ago and for some reason got away from it after I learned more. And after a hiatus of since the beginning of the year I got some time and sat down to paint and used your approach and it was so satisfying and fun to paint. I just want to say thank you for showing your way and sharing with others. 🙌
I thank you for your comment and time to write such beautiful words. Fun to paint and being satisfied, this is where my heart, approach and message is home. Glad you found it!
You are master of using colours, such a great composition
Thank you!
thank you roman
Thank you very much, this lesson about yellow allowed me to finally find an answer to my question about red and it's shadow colour. I tried violet and brown didn't liked the result. It's been a while, but now i an encouraged to experiment with green!
Yay! Glad to help. Go with green or a dark tourquoise ;)
Beautifully realised yellow colour scheme Roman, thank you for sharing! the fluid and instinctual approach to mini painting is a pure joy to watch and just goes to show painting should be FUN and CREATIVE after all we are the only one's who create bounderies within our painting process we should push those bounderies and explore our creativity. Thanks Roman as always an inspiration!
Very happy to hear such kind words. Thank you for taking the time to write them!
Awesome-awesome content in a truly optimal format. So enjoyable.🙏
I really hope other youtubers watch this and learn. 👌
Many thanks my friend. Always happy when you enjoy my creations :)
so much good advice in this video, and really wholesome to see your approach to painting.
Thank you, Roman!
A pleasure, glad you enjoy it!
The best explanation of theory behind yellow I have heard, thank you Roman! 😊
Really happy you enjoy it! Thanks for your lovely feedback!
Thank you for the extension to your colour theory. Which was something that opened doors for me. The explanation "clicked" for me in a way that others didn't.
I can see a yellow squig experiment happening soon.
Superhappy to hear that! Wishing you tons of happy painting!
Thank you for this, another great tutorial. Even after L+ years painting I'm always happy to pick up new or rather better concepts in painting. Hope to see you at SMC. Best Regards Mike (Dragonsreach) Dodds.
@@TheDragonsreach glad you enjoyed this, Mike. Unfortunately I won't make to SMC. Between Golden Demon and Monte I am not able to add one more show due family and vacation plans :/
I liked how there are art vibes to your viseo, but also a bit of fun and entertainment (deeeeeep turquoisssse!) while remaining informative and meaningful.
Maybe the part that moved me was your dad memories. It added a lot and gave me a positive feel even though my mother passed away days ago. What I wanted to say with that (hoping not to be to sound excessive) is that feelings are a big deal in your workflow, or at least I feel it that way, and kinda resonate within me.
I sometimes feel like a wooden plank in the sea once I'm painting. That's why I liked the final colour adjustments at the end: I can't ever paint the same colour twice the same way. I wish I was more efficient. I wish I had muscle memory to repeat a yellow recipe that "works". Or a red one, whatever. But I paint going back and forth... pushing into success, then slightly ruining it... the going back to the right track. Till final adjustments.
It's like I can't learn and hold back any bit of knowledge after decades of painting. Or maybe it's my brain who wants results, but my soul needs to play in the mud with colour, like a 6 yrs old kid.
Thanks for keeping doing vids Roman. The tips and these moments you've been sharing for years now, be it via Web, whatever.
Much appreciated.
But not as much appreciated to drop the euro, you squirrel ! Just kidding. Danke!
Happy you enjoy the style of my vidoes. Thank you for taking the time to comment.
I am sorry to hear about your loss and sent out my condolences. It is something that is part of life, yet I did not encounter it and have deepest respect to it and all the emotions attached. It is a fire I am not looking to burn in ... but it will come one day as so is life. I am happy that my emotions in my painting shows and I am glad that you sound like you are getting something out of it.
Do not worry, I do too. Going back and forth, all the time. But I stopped to overthink it. It is ok to not paint the same yellow or the same red all the time. Why should we care, in the end it is yellow or red. I do have the same process you descrive. Totally.
Sounds like you know your way of painting, but do not accept to follow it straight... I mean it sounds like you know who you are as a painter. Just paint like it. Sometimes like a 6 yrs old and sometimes with high goals. It is all ok. Just do what you want. You are the kind of your creations. No one else.
Glad you appreciate my content and creations :)
Keep on happy painting!
Roman
Good way to do it. I will have to try it though I dont have anything specific in mind at the moment. Thanks for this Roman.
Happy you enjoy this lesson!
Ben once again graces us with his appearance in a video. He's doing a great job.
;) ... always the star of my videos :D
Great video! Production is really improving. Painting skills are still amazing :) thanks!
Happy to hear! Thx
Very thoughtful!
Thanks!
Really good video Roman, I was doing something like similar, a sketch with the yellow transition and then using glazes, but never ocurred to me the tip with the purple, will put it to the test as soon as I can! ty
Happy you enjoy it! Rock it!
As always, I’m learning something from your videos!
Glad to hear!
Excellent video, Roman. Thanks so much.
You are very welcome!
Looks cool.
Thanks!
Very interesting to see that different people come to more or less same conclusions in a different ways.
I'm a very beginner painter and on top of that, chosen yellow as my main color for Aeldari army. Boy, what a mistake it was. They only saving grace where Aspect Warriors who I painted in their Aspect colors and that made things not as misserable but also allowed me see how insanely difficult yellow to paint compared with other colors. That it is not just me not being good at painting.
But I never gave up on yellow. Slowly experimenting. And recently, I came up with Nazdreg Yellow as main undercoat color. Which is similar to what shown in this video.
Just heavy drybrushing Flasgitz yellow on top of it gave a quite interesting but also flawed result. And I could see that this is the path forward. But I was lacking ideas and time to experiment further. What I saw here in regards of working colors up is something I have been looking for. Sort of a new inspiration. Thank you!
So very happy to read your comment. Sounds like you discovered the same on your own. Lovely! Yeah, I am not sure if I do like all the color names different brands use. I mean it is all based on a principle of color theory and I would prefer to see beginners learn this first and then use their hobby paints and pots with way more knowledge ... Happy that this brought you new inspiration and thumbs up - you are on the right track then! Keep on happy painting!
Great video! i will try this really soon!
Happy you enjoy it!
Thank you for sharing more of your wisdom
My pleasure! Keep on happy painting!
Brilliant video, thanks for sharing and the tips are awesome, no more pink base coats for me.
Depends, they can also work. The pink base coats. If the result makes sense to you! I am happy you enjoy my content!
This was very helpful! Any chance you will be doing a similar video on orange? I'm curious if the same approach works, since it is a secondary color and its compliment is blue.
It might be a good idea to that, yes ... superbusy schedule, but as soon as I do find the right spirit and miniature I'll do it!
Thank you for this video :)
@@jacobdjurhuus300 you are welcome
well, im finally going to paint my BadMoon Orc and Goblin themed BloodBowl teams, ty Roman
YEEESS!!!!
Well now I want to paint everything yellow. Not just miniatures, everything.
:D ... we all live in a yellow submarine :D
Hi Roman, great work as always. I had a question about the style you paint.
At 17:43 the miniature up close looks like the paint is thick and you can heavily see your brushstrokes, like your other video speedpainting the woman with a briefcase. I am used to seeing other painters doing smooth thin layers but I like the way yours looks too. Is there a reason you paint in this way?
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Sure I try to find the right answer for your question: Well, I call it style. I could also paint thin, diluted for achieving a smooth surface. I do not like this anymore. I have been there done that and appreciate my brushstrokes with thicker paint a lot more as they give interest and character to my painting. When all is smooth, it often looks boring in my eyes. This is just my personal perspective and no offense meant in the direction of any style. I do not say one style is better than the other.
I also have a twelve new ideas a day, with my approach I am faster to get these ideas into the world. I am not a fan of painting only three miniatures a year that are smooth. Instead I want to bang out my ideas and enjoy the energies of my brushstrokes. This - unfortanetely - does not work if you paint thin, diluted and smooth. There is no chance to make brushstrokes visible ... all a matter of perspective, choice and where you find the most joy in painting. Hope this answer was helpful!
@ROMANLAPPATMINIATUREART Very helpful and insightful!
Thanks for sharing ❤
Thanks for enjoying!
Great video Roman thank you! I have a question relating to the colour theory explained here. What if we reversed the colours here... so the space marine was violet colour... would you still use yellow for the shadows?
@@Kitty-wc9or I could give a quick answer or I could ask you to give it a try on paper to make your very own experiment. I go with the experiment. Tell me what you find out!
Really good thoughts!
Of course! A very practical answer Roman, thanks! I will have a go on my palette later!
So i had a play... in my experiment it did not work for shadows but the gradient would woek nicely for introducing a warm light source on a purple object! Then i realised i have done this on a purple goblin i am painting in sunset! 😅
Nice! 💛
Thank you!
My God the colour added to yellow is matrixing my brain !😊
Very good! With intention!
1st!!!! Yeah, finally!
Jippiiieee!!!
Your camera is very shaky when you're painting.
Do you have it mounted to the table? That might explain it, since every time you're touching the table the camera shakes.
@@5chr4pn3ll good points. I will try to improve future videos ...
@@5chr4pn3ll ... always learning and not yet a professional content creator
I like glazing magenta for my shadows on yellow but you have to thin it down quite a lot
Very true. So many different ways!
@@ROMANLAPPATMINIATUREART that’s were the fun’s at! I’m definitely going try your way next time I’m doing some yellow 😎👌
Awesome video too btw 😎👌
Thank you!
It was 20Y ago, but I was at least taught that yellow doesn’t have a dark tone. Past mustard, you have to make it work with the violet compliment or brown
Yup, well put to words I did not find ...
I'am less scared of yellow now!
This was my goal!
I have had a while back a very strange conversation with someone very active in miniature painting community that this sort of brown undershading always looks muddy and terrible, that no competition level painter would ever do anything to shade yellow except for orange. I said "but surely a cold temperature yellow exists" and it was explained that no, not for competitive painters, it is like music where only Sharp exists for the note F. Interesting to see this is not the case, though i had a hunch of that at the time. 😂
Thank you for the little insight. Well this sounds like someone who is deeply routed in the system of competition level painters. I heard that there are "unique rules" that only matter for competition level painting. I am just painting and enjoying it. I do have to oppinion that there is more to painting miniatures than pointing out that competition level painting is the pineacle of miniature art. It is one way, so is painting liberated from it. Both have their audience, their right to exist and their lessons. Both will expand if learning from eachother, but not saying that one is better than the other.
Seems like this person has still a lot to learn when it comes to painting, not competition level painting ... thanks for the kind comment :)
Is the skin tone pink with violet?
Greetings from Argentina
Oh dear I got no idea what I mixed there. I think it was some warm violet yes plus a bit of yellow and maybe a drop of orange. For the basic color. To highlight I added more orange and later more yellow/white ... Now I am curious if pink and violet would do the same, but unfortanetely I am not in the studio today. I am at the desk in the home office. Hope you give it a try!
schade das man nicht sieht wie du den Schatten der Haare/Bart gemacht hast und die Narben, das war nice.
Ah ja, sorry. Konnte nicht alles mitfilmen und irgendwie mach ich da dann mal lieber einen guide mit nur Fokus auf sowas ... Danke fürs Feedback!
I learned several new ideas from the video and appreciate your knowledge, but why do you put paint all over your hand?
He's testing the consistancy and flow of the paint before applying it to the model
Happy to hear that! Yes, I am actually checking back with consistency and flow on my hand. You can also do on a tissue as you see prefer. I do it on my thumb as I do not have to look at it anymore. It is some kind of "feeling" palette for me in the meantime, that saves me about 5 Minutes of time a day on the painting clock. In a full year this is quite a lot of time and as time is the only currency that matters in life I am happy about his hack ...
Correct. Thank you very much for helping out! I was in a middle of an online coaching and was just now able to answer!
@@ROMANLAPPATMINIATUREART thank you again, for all the information and help you give everyone, new to this hobby/addiction and with a million and one questions myself, i know what its like
while it may LOOK like mustard, it's still gonna taste like yellow and violet paint!
Very true :D
👍👍👍
huihuihui!
Jippiehui!
Cool paint , mais pourquoi avoir melanger tout ses couleur pour salir la fig a en avoir quasi un jaune unique
Merci! The reason is simple: The way from shadow to saturation is much easier than the other way around. If the pigments come from one mixture all over they interact well and the shadows can be implemented softly with a lot of control.
@@ROMANLAPPATMINIATUREART NP im beginner , and you po just look paint is very great job your gold hands !
never understood why painting yellow is hard, there are a few methods and everyone of them have a use case
Really good that it is easy for you. For some others it isn't. Maybe you can teach them too?
@@ROMANLAPPATMINIATUREART i do, but only family and friends 😄
looks messy.
I like my brushstrokes visible and powerful. Not sad that you do not like my way of painting nor the outcome.
I know that not everyone likes my way of painting and I am fine with it. I care for the ones who do. Sometimes I think too clean and neat is boring and a little messy could make it more interesting / more energised / more alive. Perspectives. Thank you for yours!
That doesn't look good at all from up close.
Hey! Thank you for your perspective - here is mine: I like my brushstrokes visible and powerful. Not sad that you do not like my way of painting nor the outcome. I know that not everyone likes my way of painting and I am fine with it. I care for the ones who do. Sometimes I think too clean and neat is boring and a little messy could make it more interesting / more energised / more alive. Perspectives. Thank you for yours!
@ROMANLAPPATMINIATUREART I usually like your work. I just don't like this one.
@@MihailTsankov thanks for the clarification. Well, happy to hear and well what can I do 😃😅🤷♂️