Pretty useful for preserved railways now. During the hot summers that have been regularly visiting the rainy and windswept UK, a fire engine would be pretty useful putting out those line side fires. Especially If it's the middy. Farmland can be particularly problematic, not just from a fire perspective but from a damage, and legal work perspective.
Definitely excellent rationales. I almost bought a W50 after the GDR collapse. There is one issue with owning one: you need a suitable space to put it...same goes for surplus MIG-21s which were then sitting around derelict - in the center of Berlin!
8 reasons why you shouldn't buy a fire engine for me; 1. Nowhere to store it 2. Cost of fuel 3. Obtaining the correct licence to drive it. 4. Impractical for my needs. 5. Cost of specialist repairs. 6. Seen the problems you've had with it!! 7. No desire for the nickname "Sam" 😂 8. Memories of the expressions on Jay Em's face when Redruth was collected. Other than that I do like to see a fire engine (with its blue lights off because I know nobody is out there hurting).
To counter, 1. I had no where for Jupes when I got her 2. You've got me there 3. Expensive to do - but the work I did following driving lorries paid for it. 4.Highly practical, think of all the space you have! 5. Depend very much on the truck - modern ones are commercial trucks with fire engine bodies, so parts are just regular spares 6. And all the good times! 7. I've not been called it yet! 8. He loves it really... Or at least I keep telling him that he does!
@@lmm Highly impressive response, thank you, 4. My Panda suits my practicality needs lol and 5. I didn't realise there was that much in common. I do have one query though, how have you never been called "Sam" when you have him sat on the bloody dashboard? 🤣
Really common in Australia to see old Rural fire service trucks on farms purely for emergency purposes. Well kitted out and very capable of road generally they are 4wd
I would definitely consider buying a fire truck like Jupiter, but I fear the motor would flood driving it home to the United States. It is the joy you exhibit, even when doing "What's Broken Now?" That really makes your channel a lot of fun. Thank you!
The one issue is while secondhand fire engines are low miles they often have high engine hours due to idling for long periods of time on the scenes of fires and accidents.
Plod has been making trouble for some companies using former fire engines and water tankers to supply water for main line steam, saying, with the Pompous Plod hat on, that they are "impersonating an emergency service vehicle", so even if you wish to provide a helpful service Plod might do their best to prevent you
Regarding the hire thing you can actually sign it up to a register for TV and movie vehicles which allows either TV or film companies requiring certain vehicles from certain periods to be hired out either as background or as a actual star vehicle for a programme or film. I think the owners can also be a background character as well and the TV and film companies will sort out any insurances on the vehicle if it gets damaged.
Love the video and would love to do this. Have you considered putting the white and red checker on the wheel rims like in fireman Sam? Iv seen some old fire engines with it and I love it aha
@@lmm it would definitely set it apart as I don't see many even classic tenders with them on. Plus as it has no insignia or crests would give it a bit of pop. But just my humble opinion aha. Out of intrest why dose it not have crests etc?
"You could make money" - yes but you'd have to change the class of vehicle as its hire and reward. Plus DVSA dont take too kindly to blue lighted "commercial" vehicles - they are clamping down following an incident in London. You should also have a LGV licence - you cannot legally drive these things on a car licence.
LGV is frequently not enough. Jupes is plated at 11.5 tonnes, requiring a full HGV to drive it. Yes, but that would be part of the conversion to suit whatever use you wanted.
Fire engines are great fun, though you may notice that you generally don't just buy a fire engine, but also a diesel loc, a bunch of neglected barn yard cars, some heavy equipment and other bits and bobs. It's somewhat like the expensive version of collecting stamps: hard to know when to stop :)
I would say you persuaded me. Although they aren't cheap here, because everybody wants to turn them into campers. But I have already considered one. So I need to hope, that it stays in service until then.
Reasons not to buy a worn-out fire engine: No space for it Bad fuel mileage Harder to find parking Lots of trouble when it breaks Reasons I watch LMM: Trains Lawrie and co. getting excited Lawrie and co. getting angry
I been eyeing a 1960 tanker that came from no joke “friendship fire co” (a real fire brigade in Pennsylvania) at a junk yard for awhile. Its in good shape still but for how long is a question.
I turned my car into an American police car (it's a dodge) and people love it and always gets attention but it can be a pain in the butt getting anywhere fast as people slow down to check it out 😂 i think my next project would have to be a fire engine though
Reason 9 or 10. It's likely to either have Dennis on the front or Simon on the side. Yep...its already named. Although your homage to fireman Sam is of course spot on
I’d love to do it. But after already owning a bus some years back I’m aware of the maintenance costs if something goes wrong. Plus if you haven’t got Cat C factor that in to the price of buying one (which is around £1500+) and with current fuel prices it wouldn’t be moving very far (maybe to the filling station and back) 😁 But if space or money wasn’t an issue then it would be on my to do list!
If I had a place like "the Shed" i'd seriously consider it. Unfortunately there's simply nowhere for me to put it (except keep it parked on public roads which... yeah, no).
One thing I stumbled into online when looking at those little Japanese domestic trucks, is that they have tiny little fire engines. Admittedly, they are somehow much more expensive than a full size fire engine, but they are adorable.
Do you need an HGV MOT every year for this? I have a 1972 HGV and this still has to go for a test every year just like a new one - because it was made after 1960. I know that fire engines have exemptions but your vehicle is not still used in active service so wondered where it stands? There’s a lot of confusion because the online Road tax submission allows you to say your vehicle is MOT exempt; many historic HGV owners don’t realise it is asking the owner to verify, the DVLC aren’t doing this. VOSA can impound the vehicle if they think it should have an MOT.
@@lmm Didn’t know about the road tax. I’m liking that. Great video, can’t beat driving a big wagon, especially one with suspension that works. I guess you can add water ballast to your taste?
I assume that you have a HGV Licence, Lawrie. So I would need to pass another test to get an HGV licence. In order to be completely legal. Can't argue with that it looks like it needs a totally different mind-set to drive. Why was it decommissioned in the first place? Was there a monstrous bill lying just around the corner that the brigade said "nope" and chucked it.Thinking of Redruth!!! But the vehicle might have had engine and drive-line issues from a bad design decision, which made it a money-pit.
Yes, I got my HGV in order to drive it, as it's 11 tonne gross. She did her 15 years of service, was sold to a private facility, sold again to a training firm, then I purchased it into preservation. It was a similar story for Redruth as they're similar age
But don't we need a HGV license due to its weight? And wasn't there some daft law saying that if its marked up as a fire engine with stickers/lights it has to be ready to put out fires?
Point 9: All the girls love a fireman and while just owning an engine doesn't make you a fireman, there are plenty who still want to check out your equipment especially how much hose you have on board LOL 🤣🤣🤣 PS I still can't believe you drove Redruth home and survived
#9 laurie wants peers lol i think on youtube you cleetus and dylan mccool are the only firetruck owners that have channels . now if you got yourself a tank or apc lol you would have more peers and in the uk you can drive it to work as i understand it whereas here in canada i dont think i can even own one .thanks for the vids!
@@lmm according to google apparently i /we can own one armored cars we cant ....and driving one on the road is almost an impossibility i am betting. i am aware its harder to get certification for ww2 aircraft its financially unreliable to own them now and operating one is a nightmare .
And # 9 can be a auxiliary service truck for the local fire station 😁👍
Yes - recently the Norfolk museums machines went back to help!
Pretty useful for preserved railways now. During the hot summers that have been regularly visiting the rainy and windswept UK, a fire engine would be pretty useful putting out those line side fires. Especially If it's the middy. Farmland can be particularly problematic, not just from a fire perspective but from a damage, and legal work perspective.
A few railways do have their own appliances
Definitely excellent rationales. I almost bought a W50 after the GDR collapse. There is one issue with owning one: you need a suitable space to put it...same goes for surplus MIG-21s which were then sitting around derelict - in the center of Berlin!
In fairness, I got Jupes before I had anywhere to keep her.
@@lmm But have you got space for a MIG-21? 🤣
@@lmm In my case reason persevered...LOL
8 reasons why you shouldn't buy a fire engine for me;
1. Nowhere to store it
2. Cost of fuel
3. Obtaining the correct licence to drive it.
4. Impractical for my needs.
5. Cost of specialist repairs.
6. Seen the problems you've had with it!!
7. No desire for the nickname "Sam" 😂
8. Memories of the expressions on Jay Em's face when Redruth was collected.
Other than that I do like to see a fire engine (with its blue lights off because I know nobody is out there hurting).
To counter,
1. I had no where for Jupes when I got her
2. You've got me there
3. Expensive to do - but the work I did following driving lorries paid for it.
4.Highly practical, think of all the space you have!
5. Depend very much on the truck - modern ones are commercial trucks with fire engine bodies, so parts are just regular spares
6. And all the good times!
7. I've not been called it yet!
8. He loves it really... Or at least I keep telling him that he does!
@@lmm Highly impressive response, thank you, 4. My Panda suits my practicality needs lol and 5. I didn't realise there was that much in common. I do have one query though, how have you never been called "Sam" when you have him sat on the bloody dashboard? 🤣
@@graemew7001 he was a gift, apparently they're all meant to have a mascot!
With the current heat, drought and fire danger conditions you may want to fill the tank back up and keep it as a private fire engine.
It's a good idea
Really common in Australia to see old Rural fire service trucks on farms purely for emergency purposes. Well kitted out and very capable of road generally they are 4wd
I would definitely consider buying a fire truck like Jupiter, but I fear the motor would flood driving it home to the United States. It is the joy you exhibit, even when doing "What's Broken Now?" That really makes your channel a lot of fun. Thank you!
Glad you're enjoying what we do!
I think a British fire engine would turn alot of heads over your side of the pond, they're so different!
@@lmm I couldn't agree more. Do you think balloon tires would help getting it here😉
The main thing large vehicle fans struggle with is where to park the thing once you've got it 🤣
This is the challenge
The one issue is while secondhand fire engines are low miles they often have high engine hours due to idling for long periods of time on the scenes of fires and accidents.
This is true, and whilst being a pump they're often at full thrash.
Please do this for buying a loco! I need something to show as an excuse for buying a loco in future.
Sure!
Now you need to do....
8 Reasons Why You Should Buy A:
Steam Locomotive....
Diesel Locomotive....
Tractor....
Bus....
Lorry....
😉😎
Some are easier than others.
8 reasons why you should buy a steam locomotive 1. You hate having money
Plod has been making trouble for some companies using former fire engines and water tankers to supply water for main line steam, saying, with the Pompous Plod hat on, that they are "impersonating an emergency service vehicle", so even if you wish to provide a helpful service Plod might do their best to prevent you
A lot of it is down to what you're actually doing with it
I attended a city auction in Vancouver decades ago. I still wish I'd bid on the 1929 LaFrance fire engine. It went for only a couple thousand dollars!
Definitely should!
A Dennis fire engine and an old double decker are my ideal trucks.
Good choice!
Regarding the hire thing you can actually sign it up to a register for TV and movie vehicles which allows either TV or film companies requiring certain vehicles from certain periods to be hired out either as background or as a actual star vehicle for a programme or film. I think the owners can also be a background character as well and the TV and film companies will sort out any insurances on the vehicle if it gets damaged.
Yes you can sign up to various places for film use. I've also seen people use them as rain makers
I do agree with your reasons for buying a Fire Engine. However I don't have a Truck driving license or the space to put one.
Having an HGV is an important part - though lots of smaller and lighter appliances around!
Love the video and would love to do this. Have you considered putting the white and red checker on the wheel rims like in fireman Sam? Iv seen some old fire engines with it and I love it aha
They were red originally, but I'm rather tempted
@@lmm it would definitely set it apart as I don't see many even classic tenders with them on.
Plus as it has no insignia or crests would give it a bit of pop. But just my humble opinion aha. Out of intrest why dose it not have crests etc?
reason the ninth: if anyone can love it this much after all the headaches it's put them through, it's clearly awesome.
Oh it is. I've really enjoyed having it.
"You could make money" - yes but you'd have to change the class of vehicle as its hire and reward. Plus DVSA dont take too kindly to blue lighted "commercial" vehicles - they are clamping down following an incident in London. You should also have a LGV licence - you cannot legally drive these things on a car licence.
LGV is frequently not enough. Jupes is plated at 11.5 tonnes, requiring a full HGV to drive it.
Yes, but that would be part of the conversion to suit whatever use you wanted.
@@lmm sorry HGV - LGV same thing - Cat C in old language
Fire engines are great fun, though you may notice that you generally don't just buy a fire engine, but also a diesel loc, a bunch of neglected barn yard cars, some heavy equipment and other bits and bobs. It's somewhat like the expensive version of collecting stamps: hard to know when to stop :)
More exciting than collecting stamps though
@@lmm Most definitely :)
I would say you persuaded me. Although they aren't cheap here, because everybody wants to turn them into campers.
But I have already considered one. So I need to hope, that it stays in service until then.
Excellent! I wish you the best of luck with finding one!
Reasons not to buy a worn-out fire engine:
No space for it
Bad fuel mileage
Harder to find parking
Lots of trouble when it breaks
Reasons I watch LMM:
Trains
Lawrie and co. getting excited
Lawrie and co. getting angry
She's not worn out - hardly worn in! 😂
@@lmm But they keep breaking... And Redruth is in quite a state
I been eyeing a 1960 tanker that came from no joke “friendship fire co” (a real fire brigade in Pennsylvania) at a junk yard for awhile. Its in good shape still but for how long is a question.
That sounds like a very good idea. Good luck to you
I turned my car into an American police car (it's a dodge) and people love it and always gets attention but it can be a pain in the butt getting anywhere fast as people slow down to check it out 😂 i think my next project would have to be a fire engine though
Oh that's cool
"It's just Awesome."
Isn't it just!
Reason 9 or 10.
It's likely to either have Dennis on the front or Simon on the side.
Yep...its already named. Although your homage to fireman Sam is of course spot on
Apparently all trucks should have a mascot
I would keep the fire engine safe as you have bought it for it is now classed as a vintage vichcle
I forget how old she is!
I’d love to do it. But after already owning a bus some years back I’m aware of the maintenance costs if something goes wrong. Plus if you haven’t got Cat C factor that in to the price of buying one (which is around £1500+) and with current fuel prices it wouldn’t be moving very far (maybe to the filling station and back) 😁 But if space or money wasn’t an issue then it would be on my to do list!
There are many lighter appliances that you can get. Costs are comparative with any other large vehicle.
Fuel is painful
You can run red lights exceed the speed limit and its called DENNIS (just some things you omitted).
I wish - same laws as any other HGV. Being a Dennis was a bonus though
I'm working with a friend to set up a brewery and the plan is to start as a side gig making brews for events, mobile tap and keg storage?
Perfect vehicle. Its already got a big tank 😂
If I had a place like "the Shed" i'd seriously consider it. Unfortunately there's simply nowhere for me to put it (except keep it parked on public roads which... yeah, no).
I got Jupes before I had anywhere for her to live. It was over a year before The Shed happened.
One thing I stumbled into online when looking at those little Japanese domestic trucks, is that they have tiny little fire engines. Admittedly, they are somehow much more expensive than a full size fire engine, but they are adorable.
My main takeaway from this is that as I save lives everyone should buy and preserve a Laurie.
That's a good idea. But how about saving a Lawrie?
@@lmm I fail to see the benefit...
I love fire engines! I want to buy one but I do not have the space
They're great fun - plenty of smaller appliances avaliable
Even a green Godess? I found one non runner £1800.
Do you need an HGV MOT every year for this? I have a 1972 HGV and this still has to go for a test every year just like a new one - because it was made after 1960.
I know that fire engines have exemptions but your vehicle is not still used in active service so wondered where it stands?
There’s a lot of confusion because the online Road tax submission allows you to say your vehicle is MOT exempt; many historic HGV owners don’t realise it is asking the owner to verify, the DVLC aren’t doing this. VOSA can impound the vehicle if they think it should have an MOT.
Yes, if its not being operated by a fire service it requires MOT.
Fire engines are tax exempt so it doesn't need be a historic vehicle.
@@lmm
Didn’t know about the road tax. I’m liking that.
Great video, can’t beat driving a big wagon, especially one with suspension that works. I guess you can add water ballast to your taste?
@@gruhwch4876 I generally avoid having water on board. It's much nicer without
there's confidence- removed towing eyes!🤔
I know right!
When will wee see the other fire engine because it will look great to see the both of them
It's on my list, there's just serveral things before it
@@lmm You mean like buying that 44 gallon drum of rust preventer ?
Builders truck, crane optional.
That would be good
Oh I am on it ;) No really I am!
Good to hear - you got your hgv?
@@lmm Working on it 🤣
I am a Funeral Director if I was ever asked to get a Fire Engine it would be great to see you turn up all your expenses paid.
I'd really like to be part of something like that. I think it would be fun.
I’d buy something like a Jupiter like you have
She's a cracking machine
@@lmm definitely
I've looked at getting one of these more than once but I'm not sure about MOT tax ect .
It's tax exempt, but it requires an MOT as its effectively an HGV
@@lmm ok thanks for the reply. Keep up the good work
@@grahampartridge9335 I'd go for it, they're great fun!
You will most likey need an HGV license to drive it though
@@lmm I'm thinking on it. My wife has a hgv licence so I'll get her to take me out
I assume that you have a HGV Licence, Lawrie.
So I would need to pass another test to get an HGV licence. In order to be completely legal. Can't argue with that it looks like it needs a totally different mind-set to drive.
Why was it decommissioned in the first place? Was there a monstrous bill lying just around the corner that the brigade said "nope" and chucked it.Thinking of Redruth!!!
But the vehicle might have had engine and drive-line issues from a bad design decision, which made it a money-pit.
Yes, I got my HGV in order to drive it, as it's 11 tonne gross.
She did her 15 years of service, was sold to a private facility, sold again to a training firm, then I purchased it into preservation.
It was a similar story for Redruth as they're similar age
But don't we need a HGV license due to its weight? And wasn't there some daft law saying that if its marked up as a fire engine with stickers/lights it has to be ready to put out fires?
You would need HGV.
Not to my knowledge no.
@@lmm sad times. I'd love a green goddess
Point 9: All the girls love a fireman and while just owning an engine doesn't make you a fireman, there are plenty who still want to check out your equipment especially how much hose you have on board LOL 🤣🤣🤣
PS I still can't believe you drove Redruth home and survived
Point 9 is valid.
Honestly, neither can I
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#9 never get stuck in rush hour traffic again
People are very considerate when it's out and about
What license do you need to drive Jupiter or Redruth?
HGV - Class C In the UK
@@lmm Ta
You *could* make money
Could being the operative word
#9 laurie wants peers lol i think on youtube you cleetus and dylan mccool are the only firetruck owners that have channels . now if you got yourself a tank or apc lol you would have more peers and in the uk you can drive it to work as i understand it whereas here in canada i dont think i can even own one .thanks for the vids!
Could you really not own one in Canada?
@@lmm according to google apparently i /we can own one armored cars we cant ....and driving one on the road is almost an impossibility i am betting. i am aware its harder to get certification for ww2 aircraft its financially unreliable to own them now and operating one is a nightmare .
I've got a fire engine and a channel, all though Lawrie has to take some of the blame for my decisions
@@ProjectMarlin yes, partly my fault
@@ProjectMarlin well thats 4 i know of now lol youtube hens teeth
another reason .. it will make you a half-decent mechanic
It could make you a half decent mechanic
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