As a Yorkshireman who was alive at the time and who lived in the same area as two victims I can vouch for the accuracy of Dr RGs account. His analysis is very good. The police were hopeless and corrupt too.
@@vibes00 - Really? I'd never heard of that aspect of the case before, but, then again, I was only 15yrs old when he was caught, and I am from Australia. In a way, though, Saville might be cosidered just as bad, if not worse. As for those around Saville that protected him, gave the "green light", well as we say down here, "those bastards are Lower Than Shark Shit" !! P.S : -- Please pardon my language, it's just that some of the "subject matter", gets to me, a little, is all so for that much, I'm sorry. P.S.S :- All the best of the Season, to you and yours, and please, stay safe co-19 wise, I mean!!!
It isn't wrong, he was mainly attacking prostitutes and then he attacked a woman who wasn't. It meant that anyone could be a victim and not just prostitutes. It is illegal to be a prostitute.
@C R I think they were too rigid with their theory that he was a geordie who hated prostitutes. When you cling too tightly to a theory (especially one based on bad assumptions) it can be like tunnel vision, so you are bound to miss evidence.
@@memeburgler187 actually he attacked and nearly killed women who were not prostitutes before the first prostitute was found murdered. But because the police were so (wrongly) confident he was only attacking prostitutes they did not attribute these attacks to him at first.
@@memeburgler187 Your claim that prostitutes are not innocent because what they do is illegal means any person who has done something illegal is not innocent if someone decides to murder them. Law enforcement should not think about the social status of the victim and instead focus on capturing the killer, who is the only one who is truly not innocent.
The police had so many drawings of him from witnesses. Every one of them had his distinctive beard on them. The police visited his home many times to question him. Each time, they let him go. He continued with his killings. Without a doubt, these women’s lives could have been saved. The police made an absolute mess of it. It was shameful to say the least.
One of the victims was found in my husbands back garden ( when he was a student at the university). Very poor policing. They were convinced it was a geordie.
@@Philip_Taylor i wondered how she couldnt see his suspicions actionand even protected him giving him a false alibi dont know how she can look herself in the mirror
I witnessed a painful disclosure from one of his escapees. They’ve struggled with their mental health throughout their adult life. This was a couple of years ago, and till then, they had not received the appropriate mental health support they needed. It’s very sad that they had been systemically let down.
Survivors/ victim support is still pretty inadequate in a number of countries. You are often left ,if you have received initial help , with PTSD which you have to battle on with. There is still more focus on the perpetrators than the victims and sensationalist press and knee jerk judgements/ labelling don't help.
One of his likely but never proven victims was a Yorkshire taxidriver who Sutcliffe assaulted with a hammer when he was 19, having cadged a lift from central Leeds to Bingley. The taxidriver, who was 24, was struck several times on the head from behind, Sutcliffe (never proven but the MO and description were a match) exited the car, tried to open the driver's door ,smashed the window but the driver was able to gun the engine and slip the clutch and get away. He stopped at a nearby cottage and asked the owner to call the police before losing consciousness, he spent days in hospital with a fractured skull, his injuries meant he never drove again and the psychological impact meant he never worked again, never married his girlfriend, never had a family or a full life...
The reason serial killers target prostitutes is their unhealthy dysfunctional relationship with their mother. In their eyes women can be "all good" or "all bad." Saville's mother "The Duchess" was all good, whilst his victims were all bad. Bad women need to be punished according to the killer. Sam Vaknin explains this really well in his videos if anyone's interested
@Roa Shallow explanation...? It's the work and personal experience of Sam Vaknin. And he should know, he's a psychologist himself. Plus he has a personality disorder. Or perhaps we should dig up Jimmy Saville and interview him about his mother
I walk my dog in Roundhay park in Leeds all the time, having seen the recent documentary, I walk right around the area where that body was found, at times right over the area. Never knew, its right outside where Jimmy Savilles palce used to be. Everyone you speak to of that age still knows about this case, police are still recovering today from the reputation hit of their handling of the case. The documentary was very charitable to them to be honest.
Just as I start typing up my notes on shift i get to listen to Dr G on this, the second most famous ripper. PERFECT TIMING! Thank you. P.s. Huuuum, I wonder if you will be doing a festive upload with a Christmas jumper on. Now wouldn't that be a treat😊😊😊
@@Samuelle09 the documentary upset me due to this. I kept thinking “when do they realise that sex workers are people too?!” Police work nearly as horrifying as the crimes. With Some victims they did just assume they were sex workers because of where they were walking. He chose who he had easy access to and clearly hated all women.
I've seen several docs on RUclips about Sutcliffe and I learned many things that I did not know about this case on your presentation Your research is amazing!
When interviewed about the Roundhay Park murder Sutcliffe was supposed to have said "the boss told me to do it". This was the only time he ever said this. The police thought he was trying to work his schizophrenia ticket. Jimmy Saville lived in Roundhay Park and was said to have connections to, or at least visited Ian Brady in prison. If Jimmy Saville was "the boss" you would have thought Sutcliffe would have said something about it after Saville died, then again Saville compromised many important people who would have preferred Sutcliffe to keep his mouth shut.
I was a kid when this took place. One victim's body was found in my mum's local supermarket. It was a very scary time and people were very suspicious of each other. Years later My university lecturer who worked with Sutcliffe at the psych hospital said he was not schizophrenic but a psychopath.
I would like to see a video on the Shayne Riggleman case. My friend Kevin and his family were murdered by Shayne back in 2011. It happened shortly before the killing of Skylar Neese, and I think may have had an influence on Rachel and Sheila.
Your take on Peter Sutcliffe is compelling I’ll watch the Netflix documentary over the winter holidays. Happy holidays Dr. Grande! The best of wishes for you and humanity. Amen
I was a child at the time, with lots of family in Yorkshire, I remember this like it was yesterday, people were terrified. I would recommend the book: Yorkshire Ripper, The Secret Murder by Clarke and Tate. It's an excellent analysis of the many many murders that were probably carried out by Sutcliffe, and more concerning, a number of assaults against women and a murder/robbery of a local bookie, as a teen accomplice of an older man. The British police didn't have an effective national database for serious crimes until the Holmes System in 1985. The Police National Computer was introduced in 1974 but took a decade to deploy. Before 1968, police forces in Britain were organised by Borough, from tiny forces to major ones, each with their own systems etc. 1968, these were merged by County. The UK doesn't have an FBI (it isn't a Federation of States) the first national agency wasn't founded until 2006. But post Ripper, tracking national crimes became far more effective. Scotland merged its forces into a single national force about 10 years ago, a controversial move. England and Wales police by County with the London based Metropolitan Police being the senior force. Re the West Yorkshire Police of the time, the case exposed major systemic failures and extremely toxic culture.... one that makes the alleged toxic culture of modern police forces look like a very minor issue, the WYP in 1974 would respond to the modern defend the police activists by 'he fell down the stairs m'lud'... and give them something to ACTUALLY moan about.
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing a Yorkshire Pudding in this video; only speculating about what could be happening in a Yorkshire Pudding like this.
Thanks Dr. Grande! I do recall the story when it was happening. Great analysis!! Enjoy the holidays! This covid 19 has left us all spending the holidays apart from our loved ones. Thankful at the least, for being here. Stay well!!
Merry holidays everyone❤❤❤ (Hey Dr. Grande, you did a video on proud boys and it immediately made me think it'd be interesting if you did one on the Black Panther Party: growing up my teachers would always speak about their "militant activity" but never about community service provided/ positive deeds. Anyways with the current political climate I thought this would be a topic worthy of discussion).
@@mysteryjunkie9808 Doesn't mean they aren't children. Older men like their just-developed bodies but don't want to feel guilty about it so they delude themselves that it's fine to take advantage of children. A 16 year old brain is nowhere near finished developing.
@Derek Chauvin yes, 16 and 18 too, are extremely young, but those are the ages of legal consent, depending on which country you live in. But poor girl of 16 could not have had much life experience to imagine that she was vulnerable to murder.
Seriously, even though I know that the voice on the tape isn't Sutcliffe, I always associate a Geordie accent with him. That Humble did SO much damage to the investigation; he said, rather feebly, that he was a heavy drinker and that he did it to make the police work harder. All he did was take the focus away from Sutcliffe, who killed more women. Thanks Dr Grande, good video.
To say that the Police in this case was incompetent is an understatement. Furthermore, their attitude towards the victims was disheartening. Excellent video Dr. Grande, thank you as always!❤️
Often after watching a movie I'll read the book to obtain further insight into a character and depth of the plot or details that may have been lost in translation. If there was a book available about the Ripper, I wouldn't need to read it because Dr. Grande's analysis provides all those details and more. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for another well researched video on this very interesting series. And, if there is a book available saving me the time needed to read it!😊
So true, a psychotic narcissist IMO, Animal cruelty.. there’s always animal cruelty! Keeping ‘lists’ of good and bad children... hmmn yeah His victims have to be asleep Fake address Sick, just sick
Apparently, when his wife went to the police station after his arrest and he explained what he'd done, she said: "What'cha do that for?" in a tone that suggested a placid mother finding out that her son had been caught stealing an apple. Interesting that it took her until 1994 to divorce him. It's not like any divorce court would have denied her reasoning.
She still lives in the home they used to share together as well, which seems weird. Although I think if she sold the house then the state would take all the proceeds, so it makes sense. She's a recluse - almost never leaves the house. I feel quite sorry for her.
@@beverleymacca4737 then stop discussing, please, that her behavour is strange, of course it is. If a man decided to identify as a women ot visa verca, we'd except it, gender dysphoria, but I'm a bit bored of the "he or she are weired" I'm bloody weired, lots of people are, usually because we're mentally ill.
So excited to watch this!! I’ve been waiting for this since I watched the Netflix documentary a few days ago!! Thank you Dr Grande and Merry Christmas to you and your family!! 🎄☺️🎁
16 years old is hardly a woman. I wanna die in a 5 star hotel. Is that superficial? Glad he's gone. I guess covid-19 has small advantages. Although, he had plenty of health problems preceding covid-19, so he was likely on the way out from breathing our air and taking up space anyway. Good stuff, Dr.G.
I haven't seen the series but this was a great analysis. Merry Christmas to you and yours!🎄 I learned so much from your videos this year. Thank you very much for all your hard work. Love you!❤
@@rogerdavies8586 yes. If he bases it purely on factual information, not any of the more hysterical suspect theories, then it could be interesting. Although probably better from a forensic psychiatrist or criminologist that specializes in serial killers.
I love Dr. Grande's assessment on Peter Sutcliffe. He wasnt mentally ill in the way we know it. He was totally insane, as well as his calculating personality to live a " normal" life in the day working, then going out stalking and prowling for a victim. Just pure evil. I just love listening to Dr. Grande's very soothing voice because he always makes a very logical approach. When appropriate he puts in some very clever humour. It always makes me scroll to see whats next or go back to see what ive missed.
Wicked beyond belief by Michael Bilton is a really in depth read,it contains much of the police paper work in the case,it's really good,I've read other books on Sutcliffe and this one is much more interesting and contains over 600 pages.
Am so pleased this book has been mentioned. Its incredible and the research is mind blowing. Recognising the lives of women, *people * murdered is long overdue after years of them just being numbers. Carol Ann Lee's Somebody's Mother, somebody's is a companion piece to that, in terms of those lost to this man.
The police in this case were unforgivably contemptible towards the victims as well as grossly incompetent. Had they not been, Suffcliffe could have been stopped years earlier.
The father of Peter Sutcliffe said all other fathers must be glad that it wasn't their own son who had done such terrible things. It's not just the families of the victims who suffer, it's the family members of the offender, for the shame and maybe guilt that they feel, having raised such a monster who attacked and killed people.
Absolutely. Sometimes kids grow up to become monsters like this no matter how good and normal their childhood was. It must be absolute torment for their families!
Always a great day to find a notification from Dr. Grande. In the future, could you do a video on Fred and Rosemary West or Ian Brady And Myra Hindley?
Another point is that by 1979 the West Yorkshire Police did have access to the services of two former FBI criminal profilers who made it very clear from a cursory examination of the evidence that "Wearside Jack" was not the killer.
VERY interesting and VERY disturbing. Your insight should be intriguing considering this case. Edit: forgot to add VERY weird. His reasons for doing these things was always...offside. As well as the incompetence in how long it took to catch him. Man wasn't that smart...
Grande this is actually scary, I was watching the sopranos and u done the sopranos and uploaded WHILE I WAS WATCHING IT now I’m watching THE RIPPER AND U UPLOADED WHILE IM WATCHING IT WTFF
His victims have a similar resemblance to his wife. They always go for the mental angle, diminish capacity. I agree with the prosecution he knew what he was doing.
Thanks for doing my question! I'm four days late in watching the video, but it was Christmas and I was thinking of more jolly things than the Yorkshire Ripper. A family of one victim sued the police as having failed in a duty of care in the case of Hill v Chief Constable of West Yorkshire. The police certainly made a large number of mistakes, but the case was dismissed.
Hi Dr Grande. As a student of psychology, who is about to embark upon obtaining a Masters degree, I wanted to say that I find your channel insightful, interesting and very helpful. I wanted to ask your opinion of whether you feel that a PhD or other doctorate level qualification is essential for perusing a career in clinical or forensic psychology. Thank you for your time and please continue to create this fantastic content. P. S. If you created merchandise including T-shirts with.. "Hi this is Dr Grande" on the front... I'm pretty sure most of your subscribers would buy one! 👍
Great video! I haven't watched the Netflix special, but I'll have to now. I can't believe how long he was able to commit his reign of terror! Happy Holidays Dr. Grande, and wishing you all the best things in life!! 🌲⭐
I would like Dr Grande to analyse what personality factors might be at work in the life of Santa Claus. If he doesn't....then I will give my own (untrained and speculative) non diagnosis. Merry Christmas everyone.
Great analysis Dr G. I was a child when Peter Sutcliffe was actively killing, but it was a very frightening time. The documentary accurately portrayed the mood of the people, and the bigotry of the police towards women.
Some interesting details in here that weren't in the documentary on Netflix. The fact that his wife cheated on him should have been mentioned, sounds like it was a trigger.
Thank you as usual your analysis is spot on! I watch this mini series today and frankly found it horrifying. The incompetence of the police, the vulnerability of humans when someone just decides to kill without compunction. The guy already had the nickname of ripper from.his work colleagues maybe the police should have taken note. I am glad to hear from you that the man who fooled the police with letter and voice recording got caught..he is definitely culpable in the murders done while the police where caught up in his web of lies. Thx again Dr Grande.
It took 27 years to catch the hoaxer despite having his DNA! He served half of his sentence and also died last year, age 63, of a heart attack, likely excessive alcohol related.
I'd be interested to hear a diagnosis on the hoaxer who sent the police letters and audio tape claiming to be the killer. What kind of mind would do such thing, he deserved prosecution and punishment.
I’m a Bradford area girl from same town as Sutcliffe and his brother Carl is a friend of my youngest brother . They went to school In Bingley , by the time of time of the murders my eldest brother was a detective on the West Yorkshire ripper squad . No way would you have thought Peter was capable of this. He was a quiet man and so was His wife Sonia who I didn’t know , but my sister in law did and she says Sonia was a little slow . They had a nice semi in Heaton just up from Cottingley where I lived , and looked respectable in every respect . Sonia always said she had no clue what he was up to and neither did his siblings . Sadly as is common , Peters siblings faced terrible abuse for years . There are many victims in crimes of this nature . It was a shock when we found out who the Ripper was, to think he moved amongst us . By the time he was caught I had moved with my parents to Sheffield where he was apprehended I remember being in Cinderellas nightclub in Leeds in summer 1979 and police came in , turned the music off , lights on and then played the tape over the sound system. No one knew the voice .. it was a Geordie accent from up Newcastle way Scary times ...walking in pairs and forever looking behind you every two minutes He would have been caught much sooner today with advancements in dna and IT . RIP those poor girls so brutally murdered .
All I want for Christmas is.... a work ethic like Dr. Grande. The amount of content you’re able to produce is astonishing. 👏🏾 👏🏾 ❤️
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All I want for Christmas is to marry Dr. Grande. I simp so hard for him
@@Frenchblue8 nooooo :'( you ruined my 2021
As a Yorkshireman who was alive at the time and who lived in the same area as two victims I can vouch for the accuracy of Dr RGs account. His analysis is very good. The police were hopeless and corrupt too.
Body found outside Saville flat
@@vibes00 - Really? I'd never heard of that aspect of the case before, but,
then again, I was only 15yrs old when he was caught, and I am from Australia.
In a way, though, Saville might be cosidered just as bad, if not worse. As for
those around Saville that protected him, gave the "green light", well as we say
down here, "those bastards are Lower Than Shark Shit" !!
P.S : -- Please pardon my language, it's just that some of the "subject matter",
gets to me, a little, is all so for that much, I'm sorry.
P.S.S :- All the best of the Season, to you and yours, and please, stay safe co-19
wise, I mean!!!
West Yorkshire police have quite a record.
All police forces have totally dysfunctional officers
@@vibes00 Sutcliffe and Savile became friends later on I believe. Speaks volumes!
The first "innocent" victim 🙄.
That's some very telling terminology on the part of the police.
It isn't wrong, he was mainly attacking prostitutes and then he attacked a woman who wasn't. It meant that anyone could be a victim and not just prostitutes. It is illegal to be a prostitute.
@C R I think they were too rigid with their theory that he was a geordie who hated prostitutes. When you cling too tightly to a theory (especially one based on bad assumptions) it can be like tunnel vision, so you are bound to miss evidence.
@@memeburgler187 actually he attacked and nearly killed women who were not prostitutes before the first prostitute was found murdered. But because the police were so (wrongly) confident he was only attacking prostitutes they did not attribute these attacks to him at first.
@C R 1+1equals..
@@memeburgler187 Your claim that prostitutes are not innocent because what they do is illegal means any person who has done something illegal is not innocent if someone decides to murder them. Law enforcement should not think about the social status of the victim and instead focus on capturing the killer, who is the only one who is truly not innocent.
"It's a bad place to die"
To be fair, Bradford is a bad place to live too. Was born there.
I like the accent though
“He died in a fancy restaurant.”
*”There’s worse places. So how did he die?”*
“Choked to death. He was killed by the Yorkshire Pudding.”
Full marks for humour!
Hahahaha you’re not wrong
A bad place to live too. :D
I live in Bradford. Not very far from his hunting ground. Really, the Police hunt for him was a shambles. Those poor women.
True. I used to walk past his wife's house in Heaton all the time, very eery all of it!
The police had so many drawings of him from witnesses. Every one of them had his distinctive beard on them. The police visited his home many times to question him. Each time, they let him go. He continued with his killings. Without a doubt, these women’s lives could have been saved. The police made an absolute mess of it. It was shameful to say the least.
One of the victims was found in my husbands back garden ( when he was a student at the university). Very poor policing. They were convinced it was a geordie.
yes very messed up and often unprofessional
bordering criminal.
@@Philip_Taylor i wondered how she couldnt see his suspicions actionand even protected him giving him a false alibi
dont know how she can look herself in the mirror
I witnessed a painful disclosure from one of his escapees. They’ve struggled with their mental health throughout their adult life. This was a couple of years ago, and till then, they had not received the appropriate mental health support they needed. It’s very sad that they had been systemically let down.
Mental health services in the UK are abysmal
@@vmm5163 ~ In the USA as well.
Survivors/ victim support is still pretty inadequate in a number of countries. You are often left ,if you have received initial help , with PTSD which you have to battle on with. There is still more focus on the perpetrators than the victims and sensationalist press and knee jerk judgements/ labelling don't help.
One of his likely but never proven victims was a Yorkshire taxidriver who Sutcliffe assaulted with a hammer when he was 19, having cadged a lift from central Leeds to Bingley. The taxidriver, who was 24, was struck several times on the head from behind, Sutcliffe (never proven but the MO and description were a match) exited the car, tried to open the driver's door ,smashed the window but the driver was able to gun the engine and slip the clutch and get away. He stopped at a nearby cottage and asked the owner to call the police before losing consciousness, he spent days in hospital with a fractured skull, his injuries meant he never drove again and the psychological impact meant he never worked again, never married his girlfriend, never had a family or a full life...
So they started to really pay attention when a "innocent " girl was killed.. ? Ok, what were the other ladies then? Thats messed up... 😾
Prostitution is a crime
@@hugjhjakhj3838 Isn't killing a worse crime?
@@hugjhjakhj3838 So you reccomend the death penalty for prostitution?
It shouldn't matter who the victim is in a murder case. The cops were incompetent. All the evidence was there, they couldn't put it together. smh.
They were easy targets God rest them
What a treat on Christmas Eve Eve. Two more sleeps and we can ripper presents open. Happy Holidays from the UK 🇬🇧
Lol
Lol ripper open!
Love it!! 💜🎄💜
Merry Christmas from the Geordies 💓🙏😁
Merry Christmas from the Brummies
Merry Christmas Dr. Grande 🎄🎅
The audio here is better than the more recent videos, Dr. Grandre. Please bring these kinds of editing back. Thankies!
Big love to you from Australia, Dr. Grande! It's nearly 10:30am Christmas Eve here, so happy holidays for tomorrow, everyone! ❤️❤️❤️
And happy holidays to you, also! 💝
@@JustDr.S ohh! Thank you! 🙂
The good Doctor takes such great care of us 😭💘🎄 thank you kindly Dr. Grande.
Thank you for addressing the real reason serial killers target prostitutes: their lives are seen as dispensable. Fantastic analysis.
Also that's just the ones they knew about check out links to Jimmy Saville jaw dropping
The reason serial killers target prostitutes is their unhealthy dysfunctional relationship with their mother. In their eyes women can be "all good" or "all bad." Saville's mother "The Duchess" was all good, whilst his victims were all bad. Bad women need to be punished according to the killer. Sam Vaknin explains this really well in his videos if anyone's interested
@Roa Shallow explanation...? It's the work and personal experience of Sam Vaknin. And he should know, he's a psychologist himself. Plus he has a personality disorder. Or perhaps we should dig up Jimmy Saville and interview him about his mother
@Roa agreed 👍
@@vmm5163 Was Jimmy a bastard royal via his mother the duchess??
I love it when you do British Serial Killers... as it is closer to home.... I remember this so well. Thanks Dr Grande.x
This was my question! Thank you Dr. Grande 🙏
Excellent timing Dr Grande! I never thought anything good could come of 2020. I was wrong.
Merry Christmas! 🎄And thank you, doctor!
This has always been a fascinating case study. Thanks, Dr., and Happy Holidays!
Dr G take a look at the case of Fred and Rosemary West. I reckon you’d find a fair bit to say about them.
Look at serial killer Dr Harold shipman
I find Fred and Rose extremely disturbing. 🤮
YES DOC!!! Hope it was me asking for it over and over that got it in a video!!!
I walk my dog in Roundhay park in Leeds all the time, having seen the recent documentary, I walk right around the area where that body was found, at times right over the area. Never knew, its right outside where Jimmy Savilles palce used to be. Everyone you speak to of that age still knows about this case, police are still recovering today from the reputation hit of their handling of the case. The documentary was very charitable to them to be honest.
You seen Was Jimmy Saville a Wizard? If not watch! 5ociety X video on RUclips brilliant vid 👍
You seen that picture of Sutcliffe, Saville and Frank Bruno(!?) all together, make of that what you will!
@@eggZ663 masonic brothers
@@vibes00 at least.
How are they feeling about Rotterdam?
Thank you Dr. Grande, great content as always!
Just as I start typing up my notes on shift i get to listen to Dr G on this, the second most famous ripper.
PERFECT TIMING! Thank you.
P.s. Huuuum, I wonder if you will be doing a festive upload with a Christmas jumper on. Now wouldn't that be a treat😊😊😊
"The first innocent victim"
Wow
Just wow
What? Prostitution is a crime.
Yeah my jaw dropped and eyebrows furrowed at that.
It was the 70s. That's how people rolled back then.
We know people are people but some others seem to think that some lives are more valuable than others.
@@Samuelle09 the documentary upset me due to this. I kept thinking “when do they realise that sex workers are people too?!” Police work nearly as horrifying as the crimes. With Some victims they did just assume they were sex workers because of where they were walking. He chose who he had easy access to and clearly hated all women.
Dr. Grande,
Thanks for your indefatigable. I look forward to your videos everyday. Much appreciated!
Thank you for you amazing and hard work! Have a great day Dr. Grande!
I've seen several docs on RUclips about Sutcliffe and I learned many things that I did not know about this case on your presentation Your research is amazing!
Thanks Dr. Grande for an outstanding year. Merry Christmas to you and Family.
Living for this video after watching the series on Netflix! 🙌 Thank you Dr Grande ❤
I haven't watched the series, yet. I think I will now. Happy Holidays!
Such an interesting case! Happy holidays, Dr. Grande!🎄⛄Thanks for gifting us so much great content! 🎁
Have an absolutely great Christmas, Dr Grande! You deserve all the best❤️☺️
When interviewed about the Roundhay Park murder Sutcliffe was supposed to have said "the boss told me to do it". This was the only time he ever said this. The police thought he was trying to work his schizophrenia ticket. Jimmy Saville lived in Roundhay Park and was said to have connections to, or at least visited Ian Brady in prison. If Jimmy Saville was "the boss" you would have thought Sutcliffe would have said something about it after Saville died, then again Saville compromised many important people who would have preferred Sutcliffe to keep his mouth shut.
👍 that's interesting
I was a kid when this took place. One victim's body was found in my mum's local supermarket. It was a very scary time and people were very suspicious of each other. Years later My university lecturer who worked with Sutcliffe at the psych hospital said he was not schizophrenic but a psychopath.
What, near the beans and carrots?
Reduced section - “ damaged in store” ?
Hi Doctor Grande glad to see that you did a video about serial killer Peter Sutcliffe now you should do a video about Jack the Ripper.
I just finished the Netflix series & now this video! Thank you Dr.Grande!
I would like to see a video on the Shayne Riggleman case. My friend Kevin and his family were murdered by Shayne back in 2011. It happened shortly before the killing of Skylar Neese, and I think may have had an influence on Rachel and Sheila.
Your take on Peter Sutcliffe is compelling I’ll watch the Netflix documentary over the winter holidays.
Happy holidays Dr. Grande! The best of wishes for you and humanity. Amen
Love the content dr grande !!
I was a child at the time, with lots of family in Yorkshire, I remember this like it was yesterday, people were terrified. I would recommend the book: Yorkshire Ripper, The Secret Murder by Clarke and Tate. It's an excellent analysis of the many many murders that were probably carried out by Sutcliffe, and more concerning, a number of assaults against women and a murder/robbery of a local bookie, as a teen accomplice of an older man.
The British police didn't have an effective national database for serious crimes until the Holmes System in 1985. The Police National Computer was introduced in 1974 but took a decade to deploy. Before 1968, police forces in Britain were organised by Borough, from tiny forces to major ones, each with their own systems etc. 1968, these were merged by County.
The UK doesn't have an FBI (it isn't a Federation of States) the first national agency wasn't founded until 2006. But post Ripper, tracking national crimes became far more effective. Scotland merged its forces into a single national force about 10 years ago, a controversial move. England and Wales police by County with the London based Metropolitan Police being the senior force.
Re the West Yorkshire Police of the time, the case exposed major systemic failures and extremely toxic culture.... one that makes the alleged toxic culture of modern police forces look like a very minor issue, the WYP in 1974 would respond to the modern defend the police activists by 'he fell down the stairs m'lud'... and give them something to ACTUALLY moan about.
Ah I think it was me that requested this. Thank you. Look forward to watching
And there is a fascinating Jimmy Savile connection. I requested a video on him too, a very nasty piece of work
Just finished the series -perfect timing! Time to get Dr G's thoughts!
Hearing an American pronounce Yorkshire correctly shocked me XD thank you Dr
Edinburgh is the worst pronounced LOL
@@vibes00 Salisbury is always a treat as well
@@jonathangriffiths2499 and Worcester!
@@jonathangriffiths2499 hahaha now that must be a real tounge twisted what about Worcestershire sauce 😂👍🎄🎁
He called it west riding of Yorkshire. This no longer exists.
It was simply west Yorkshire
Appreciate you doing British cases for your British fans!
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing a Yorkshire Pudding in this video; only speculating about what could be happening in a Yorkshire Pudding like this.
No Yorkshire puddings were harmed in the making if this vid
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@@mrsapplez2007 AWESOME!!!
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@@BigZebraCom you inspired me 😆😆😆🤩
Thanks Dr. Grande! I do recall the story when it was happening. Great analysis!!
Enjoy the holidays! This covid 19 has left us all spending the holidays apart from our loved ones. Thankful at the least, for being here. Stay well!!
Merry holidays everyone❤❤❤
(Hey Dr. Grande, you did a video on proud boys and it immediately made me think it'd be interesting if you did one on the Black Panther Party: growing up my teachers would always speak about their "militant activity" but never about community service provided/ positive deeds. Anyways with the current political climate I thought this would be a topic worthy of discussion).
Yes Dr Grande, another interesting analysis. Thank you..
Good thing they finally caught him.
"A sixteen year old woman." Sorry, but she was a child. A girl.
True, but over in the uk age 16 is like age 18 in the states.
Here in UK the age of consent is 16 you see alot of 16 year old women with men in their 20's and sometimes 30's. They are both consenting adults.
@@mysteryjunkie9808 Doesn't mean they aren't children. Older men like their just-developed bodies but don't want to feel guilty about it so they delude themselves that it's fine to take advantage of children. A 16 year old brain is nowhere near finished developing.
@Derek Chauvin yes, 16 and 18 too, are extremely young, but those are the ages of legal consent, depending on which country you live in. But poor girl of 16 could not have had much life experience to imagine that she was vulnerable to murder.
I agree, sixteen is a child. But seriously, is this really the most important thing out of this video? Is it honestly worth pointing out?
Ahhhh, this is one that I had asked for awhile ago...thank you Dr. Grande!! 😎👍
Seriously, even though I know that the voice on the tape isn't Sutcliffe, I always associate a Geordie accent with him. That Humble did SO much damage to the investigation; he said, rather feebly, that he was a heavy drinker and that he did it to make the police work harder. All he did was take the focus away from Sutcliffe, who killed more women. Thanks Dr Grande, good video.
Humble eventually felt guilty and anonymously informed the police that it was a hoax. The police ignored his claim. Quel surprise!
Happy restful Seasons Greeting dr Grande. Stellar work as always
To say that the Police in this case was incompetent is an understatement. Furthermore, their attitude towards the victims was disheartening.
Excellent video Dr. Grande, thank you as always!❤️
Often after watching a movie I'll read the book to obtain further insight into a character and depth of the plot or details that may have been lost in translation. If there was a book available about the Ripper, I wouldn't need to read it because Dr. Grande's analysis provides all those details and more. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for another well researched video on this very interesting series. And, if there is a book available saving me the time needed to read it!😊
I want to see analysis on Santa Claus! Overeating, breaking into homes, slave labor, the guy is a mess!
So true, a psychotic narcissist IMO,
Animal cruelty.. there’s always animal cruelty!
Keeping ‘lists’ of good and bad children... hmmn yeah
His victims have to be asleep
Fake address
Sick, just sick
YEAH! And he never gets you the one present you want the most. Sadistic giant elf!
And the stalking! Always knows when you sleep and what you’re doing while you’re awake!
@@martyal home invasions via the chimney, all those little elves around, forced labor....Such a sick bastard, he is!
👏👏👏 Such a great idea! 🎄
Always interesting. And love, love, love your dry humor zingers that you throw in so randomly.... Brilliant! 😄
Apparently, when his wife went to the police station after his arrest and he explained what he'd done, she said: "What'cha do that for?" in a tone that suggested a placid mother finding out that her son had been caught stealing an apple. Interesting that it took her until 1994 to divorce him. It's not like any divorce court would have denied her reasoning.
She had schizophrenia!!! She couldn't think rationally, listen
She still lives in the home they used to share together as well, which seems weird. Although I think if she sold the house then the state would take all the proceeds, so it makes sense. She's a recluse - almost never leaves the house. I feel quite sorry for her.
@@beverleymacca4737 SHE IS. UCKING SCHIZOPHRENIC, BLOODY LISTEN, LISTEN
@@dougyohooglefrogtownrovers9017 all right calm down! I never said she wasn't.
@@beverleymacca4737 then stop discussing, please, that her behavour is strange, of course it is. If a man decided to identify as a women ot visa verca, we'd except it, gender dysphoria, but I'm a bit bored of the "he or she are weired" I'm bloody weired, lots of people are, usually because we're mentally ill.
So excited to watch this!! I’ve been waiting for this since I watched the Netflix documentary a few days ago!! Thank you Dr Grande and Merry Christmas to you and your family!! 🎄☺️🎁
16 years old is hardly a woman.
I wanna die in a 5 star hotel. Is that superficial?
Glad he's gone. I guess covid-19 has small advantages. Although, he had plenty of health problems preceding covid-19, so he was likely on the way out from breathing our air and taking up space anyway. Good stuff, Dr.G.
Nope. Not superficial at all. I'd chose a sunny beach in Hawaii or Catalina! 🌊
I couldn't have said that better.
I haven't seen the series but this was a great analysis.
Merry Christmas to you and yours!🎄 I learned so much from your videos this year. Thank you very much for all your hard work. Love you!❤
This man does not miss! 👏
Hi Dr. Grande! I enjoy your videos a lot and they often really help me with my studies. Would you consider making a video on rumination disorder?
Please make it a "Ripper" double header with a video on the Jack the Ripper case. Thanks Dr. Grande.
It would be challenging as we don't know who Jack the Ripper was.
Marianne
@@rogerdavies8586 Based on the evidence Dr. Grande may have incite into the type of mental makeup of the killer and what to look for in a suspect.
@@rayross997 Yes, but I hope he won't get sidetracked into speculating about the butcher, the doctor, Queen Victoria's grandson etc.
Marianne
@@rogerdavies8586 yes. If he bases it purely on factual information, not any of the more hysterical suspect theories, then it could be interesting. Although probably better from a forensic psychiatrist or criminologist that specializes in serial killers.
Dr. G, I've kept this one for a bit because I'm so interested in your analysis of his ultimate diagnosis!
Yes I think you nailed it with this one. Do look into the Jimmy Savile connection though, it’s very bizarre
Thank you Dr. Grande!!! Always enjoy your commentary :)
Dr. Grande is wearing my favorite shirt. 😁💕
I love Dr. Grande's assessment on Peter Sutcliffe. He wasnt mentally ill in the way we know it. He was totally insane, as well as his calculating personality to live a " normal" life in the day working, then going out stalking and prowling for a victim. Just pure evil. I just love listening to Dr. Grande's very soothing voice because he always makes a very logical approach. When appropriate he puts in some very clever humour. It always makes me scroll to see whats next or go back to see what ive missed.
People who are interested in this story might enjoy Hallie Rubenhold’s book The Five.
Wicked beyond belief by Michael Bilton is a really in depth read,it contains much of the police paper work in the case,it's really good,I've read other books on Sutcliffe and this one is much more interesting and contains over 600 pages.
Am so pleased this book has been mentioned. Its incredible and the research is mind blowing. Recognising the lives of women, *people * murdered is long overdue after years of them just being numbers. Carol Ann Lee's Somebody's Mother, somebody's is a companion piece to that, in terms of those lost to this man.
@@paulanthony5274 completely agree. Brilliant book.
Always good to hear your opinion on cases that get turned into Netflix shows. I feel like they choose a storyline to follow beforehand
The police in this case were unforgivably contemptible towards the victims as well as grossly incompetent. Had they not been, Suffcliffe could have been stopped years earlier.
Very much so.
I hope they’re roasting in I. Hell too
@@india239 Don't wish this upon anyone.
I love your sense of humor.
Enjoyed the video. Could you cover the character 'Louis Bloom' in the movie Nightcrawler. It would be interesting to get your take. Happy Holidays!
It's so nice to see your face every day, Dr. Grande. :)
I was a student in Leeds at the time and we were all afraid to go out alone!
Why wasn’t I notified about this upload?! Happy Holidays, Dr. Grande.
The father of Peter Sutcliffe said all other fathers must be glad that it wasn't their own son who had done such terrible things. It's not just the families of the victims who suffer, it's the family members of the offender, for the shame and maybe guilt that they feel, having raised such a monster who attacked and killed people.
Well said
Absolutely. Sometimes kids grow up to become monsters like this no matter how good and normal their childhood was. It must be absolute torment for their families!
His father was an abuser
Always a great day to find a notification from Dr. Grande. In the future, could you do a video on Fred and Rosemary West or Ian Brady And Myra Hindley?
Joan Crawford Mental Health and personality would be a great Christmas gift.🎄❣️
WIRE HANGERS!!
@@JustDr.S LMAO.
She had to be bipolar. Mommy Dearest Sometimes and Sometimes NOT.
@@JustDr.S lol
Another point is that by 1979 the West Yorkshire Police did have access to the services of two former FBI criminal profilers who made it very clear from a cursory examination of the evidence that "Wearside Jack" was not the killer.
VERY interesting and VERY disturbing. Your insight should be intriguing considering this case.
Edit: forgot to add VERY weird. His reasons for doing these things was always...offside. As well as the incompetence in how long it took to catch him. Man wasn't that smart...
I wouldn't say not smart. It could be for thousands of other reasons
He's a mason
Grande this is actually scary, I was watching the sopranos and u done the sopranos and uploaded WHILE I WAS WATCHING IT now I’m watching THE RIPPER AND U UPLOADED WHILE IM WATCHING IT WTFF
Good timing. I have just started watching this documentary. Have you ever served as an expert in a murder case in court? Thanks for this synopsis.
I was kinda wishing for this video , thx a lot doc
His victims have a similar resemblance to his wife. They always go for the mental angle, diminish capacity. I agree with the prosecution he knew what he was doing.
I noticed that too about the resemblance.
Thanks for doing my question! I'm four days late in watching the video, but it was Christmas and I was thinking of more jolly things than the Yorkshire Ripper.
A family of one victim sued the police as having failed in a duty of care in the case of Hill v Chief Constable of West Yorkshire. The police certainly made a large number of mistakes, but the case was dismissed.
Sex workers are innocent people as well.
They don't deserve to die, but they aren't innocent if you know what I mean. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Prostitution is a crime, that is the opposite of innocent lol
People who judge others harshly suffer from shame and inner conflicts. We are all born equal. Luckily things slowly but surely get better.
@@memeburgler187 exactly. And they do not pay taxes, which funds the police.
@@moinmoin1293 with your theory, then all those who commit tax evasion deserve punishment.
Great commentary on the police in the case👍
Hi Dr Grande. As a student of psychology, who is about to embark upon obtaining a Masters degree, I wanted to say that I find your channel insightful, interesting and very helpful. I wanted to ask your opinion of whether you feel that a PhD or other doctorate level qualification is essential for perusing a career in clinical or forensic psychology. Thank you for your time and please continue to create this fantastic content.
P. S. If you created merchandise including T-shirts with.. "Hi this is Dr Grande" on the front... I'm pretty sure most of your subscribers would buy one! 👍
Great video! I haven't watched the Netflix special, but I'll have to now.
I can't believe how long he was able to commit his reign of terror!
Happy Holidays Dr. Grande, and wishing you all the best things in life!! 🌲⭐
I would like Dr Grande to analyse what personality factors might be at work in the life of Santa Claus. If he doesn't....then I will give my own (untrained and speculative) non diagnosis. Merry Christmas everyone.
Well, he never gives you what you really want for Christmas. Sadistic propensities, you think?
@@JustDr.S I agree, I would speculate that he is high in narcissism. Give me a sec... I'm just going to write up a speculation.
@@SKY-wt2pp Ok. But only one second! Nah, take 2! 🤣
Oh, he's fine. It's just cosplay! 😁
@@LDiamondz Cosplay on steroids...and possibly opioids, mushrooms, probably DMT and funded by the aluminati. Hehe
Merry Christmas Dr Grande!
A video fresh from the oven!!!
Awww, a like from Dr. Grande! Thank you! ♥︎♥︎♥︎
Great analysis Dr G. I was a child when Peter Sutcliffe was actively killing, but it was a very frightening time. The documentary accurately portrayed the mood of the people, and the bigotry of the police towards women.
Some interesting details in here that weren't in the documentary on Netflix. The fact that his wife cheated on him should have been mentioned, sounds like it was a trigger.
Thank you as usual your analysis is spot on!
I watch this mini series today and frankly found it horrifying. The incompetence of the police, the vulnerability of humans when someone just decides to kill without compunction. The guy already had the nickname of ripper from.his work colleagues maybe the police should have taken note.
I am glad to hear from you that the man who fooled the police with letter and voice recording got caught..he is definitely culpable in the murders done while the police where caught up in his web of lies. Thx again Dr Grande.
It took 27 years to catch the hoaxer despite having his DNA! He served half of his sentence and also died last year, age 63, of a heart attack, likely excessive alcohol related.
Ah nice. Fresh on my mind from Netflix.
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Diagnose the cops that screwed this all up so badly.
I'd be interested to hear a diagnosis on the hoaxer who sent the police letters and audio tape claiming to be the killer. What kind of mind would do such thing, he deserved prosecution and punishment.
Merry Christmas Dr Grande from Australia 🇦🇺🎄👋🏻
I never clicked so fast, my jewelry fell off 💍🔪
Watching The Ripper currently..
Another great analysis of a case thanks 😊💚
Hi Dr. Grande, you should analyze Gustavo Fring from Breaking Bad next. Thank you in advance.
I’m a Bradford area girl from same town as Sutcliffe and his brother Carl is a friend of my youngest brother . They went to school In Bingley , by the time of time of the murders my eldest brother was a detective on the West Yorkshire ripper squad . No way would you have thought Peter was capable of this. He was a quiet man and so was His wife Sonia who I didn’t know , but my sister in law did and she says Sonia was a little slow . They had a nice semi in Heaton just up from Cottingley where I lived , and looked respectable in every respect . Sonia always said she had no clue what he was up to and neither did his siblings . Sadly as is common , Peters siblings faced terrible abuse for years . There are many victims in crimes of this nature .
It was a shock when we found out who the Ripper was, to think he moved amongst us . By the time he was caught I had moved with my parents to Sheffield where he was apprehended
I remember being in Cinderellas nightclub in Leeds in summer 1979 and police came in , turned the music off , lights on and then played the tape over the sound system. No one knew the voice .. it was a Geordie accent from up Newcastle way
Scary times ...walking in pairs and forever looking behind you every two minutes
He would have been caught much sooner today with advancements in dna and IT . RIP those poor girls so brutally murdered .