“The Mandalorian is a wonderful homage to the Lone Wolf and Cub series, and baby Grogu’s choice in that random Book of Boba Fett episode is a direct reference to the choice presented to Daigoro in the first film: Sword of Vengeance.”
As the top-voted comment on this video, I feel am entitled to making a movie recommendation: Six-String Samurai From the opening scroll: "In 1957, the bomb dropped, and the Russians took over what was America. "The last bastion of freedom became a place called Lost Vegas and Elvis was crowned King. "After for rockin' years, the King is dead. "Every guitar picking, sword swinging opportunist, including Death himself, hears the call echoing across the wastelands. "Vegas needs a new King." It's about Buddy Holly traveling across a post-apocalyptic wasteland with a katana duct taped to the back of his hollow-body electric guitar, on his way to Lost Vegas to become King. It is exactly as I am billing it. If you think this sounds awesome, it is. If it doesn't sound like your kind of thing, it's probably not. Six-String Samurai. Free to watch on YT EDIT: And the soundtrack is fire
It's really accurate when you can't be more elite, you're going back to enjoying popular movies but at the same time you also have good taste for other movies
"Michael Bay is actually one of the top industry auteurs and his kinetic action and commercial instincts against the dull and overplayed aspects of the Marvel Cinematic Universe make him deeply wanted in the realm of cinema"
What's most insufferable is someone who only watches Disney franchises and thinks anyone who likes other cinema is pretentious. Bergman films are not inaccessible and everyone should enjoy them.
@@lilaclunablossomI don't think sociability comes into it these people will ramble about films to strangers or even them self in private, it's just their obnoxious nature 😅
Nah, it's because as insufferable as these people are, they are already at a point where they don't have just one or two favourite movies or directors. Phase 5 is the same except you stop being snobbish about films and can appreciate movies that simply make you feel good even if they don't have great artistic value.
Yeah I went through all thjs 😂 truth is, once you start working you dont really want to watch some slow subtitled movie in the evening, would rather put on some trashy action movie
Home theater needs to have an actual film projector, and the only films made since the 40s that they like are all b/w macro lens shots of the most asinine things, like eye buggers in the morning and toe nail fungus.
Phase 1: pop culture blockbusters Phase 2: pop culture indies Phase 3: classic cinema Phase 4: artsy european cinema Phase 5: I don't have time for this sh!t Also, it's amazing that you figured out the full circle while still being so young. It took me 40 years.
@@muhammadzaidmuckba9097 Akira Kurosawa? That's for tourists. You should check Yasujiro Ozu and Masaki Kobayashi if you really want to know japanese cinema.
@@muhammadzaidmuckba9097 I feel like it's another branch. One snob group gets obsessed with European filmmaking and the other with South East/East Asian cinema. I went that route and now I'm all about dramatic and even stupid samurai and wuxia films so I'm not mad
Ah yes, there's a Bonus Stage before the completion of the circle, that not many cinephiles get to discover: total cynicism and looking down upon movies (and movie fans) that take themselves seriously - Grindhouse, Exploitation, 70s/80s Hong Kong (kung fu), Cult B movies, etc.
A great film no doubt no... art itself portrayed on earth, a marvel never seen before in the whole history of mankind, a bet of a place abandoned by humankind's memory, Uganda has shown that it is capable of making, a beauté impossible to describe, the CINEMA in its maximum magnificence.
@@BlueTyphoon2017It's broke Ugandans making a nonsensical action movie having the time of their lives. An absolute 10/10 movie with pure, undistilled joy. It's on RUclips and is barely over an hour long.
Kung Fu Panda, while a cinematic masterpiece in its own right, must bow down to Shrek as the most important 3D animated film of all time. Toy Story was the first of great significance but Shrek was the real sea change.
Peter Weller (Robocop) did an interview where he talked about finishing a doctoral dissertation on Venetian Renaissance architecture and how he now hates everything about Venetian Renaissance architecture.
He got the doctorate maybe 15 years ago, long after his 80s movie career. He absolutely loved it at first but hated it by the end because all the joy was stripped out of it.
The best definition of Stage 6 is this quote by Roger Ebert from his review of Gamera: Guardian Of The Universe : There's a learning process that moviegoers go through. They begin in childhood without sophistication or much taste, and for example, like "Gamera'' more than "Air Force One" because flying turtles are obviously more entertaining than United States presidents. Then they grow older and develop "taste,'' and prefer "Air Force One," which is better made and has big stars and a more plausible plot. (Isn't it more believable, after all, that a president could single-handedly wipe out a planeload of terrorists than that a giant turtle could spit gobs of flame?) Then, if they continue to grow older and wiser, they complete the circle and return to "Gamera'' again, realizing that while both movies are preposterous, the turtle movie has the charm of utter goofiness--and, in an age of flawless special effects, it is somehow more fun to watch flawed ones.
To be quite honest my experience of truly annoying "cinephiles" has been people who are in phase 2 or 3 but think they're in phase 4. Meeting an insufferable film bro who has seen more than just tarantino and nolan is a rare treat. Still an awful treat, but a rare one.
Actually it goes Tarantino, Nolan, Fincher Kubrick. And they all seem like 4chan Libertarians who believe in the bell curve for some reason, at least that was my (very brief) film school experience.
True. Film snobs like those in Phase 4 can be really insufferable, but at least they by that point have some knowledge on the subject of film. Filmbros however will act like they are the most knowledgeable people because they've seen nearly every Nolan, Tarantino, and Scorsese film.
The true peak of being a cinefile is when you start appreciating every little effort and filmmaking technique that goes into ALL movies big and small, not just the ones that are popular on rotten tomatoes or letterboxd
Honestly, one of the coolest things about watching a lot of movies as an adult is coming back to the movies I loved as a kid, like Star Wars, Back to the Future, Jurassic Park or Indiana Jones and realising they all still rock
Hell yeah! Coming back to them and understanding the writing better as an adult is a treat, you catch stuff that went over your head as a kid. Plus, going back to them with a greater understanding of movies in general has you appreciate them more on a technical level too. Honestly? It's just about having a passion for the medium of cinema while not letting cynicism cloud your judgment of the actual movies themselves. They're there to enjoy!
This his been pretty much, every year I revisit Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Back to the Future just to realize they're still great, and is not just a matter of nostalgia, you start to realize about details you didn't before, I also earned more appreciation for George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Robert Zemeckis. I found myself revisiting Pixar, those films grew up with me.
As a kid, I feel like I didn't have the critical thinking or experience to understand movies so I just thought "my dad said this movie is good, so it's good." And rewatching those movies as an adult is like "this is *why* my dad said this is a good movie"
I’m currently in phase 5. So glad I’m not as pretentious about movies as I used to be. A true cinema lover doesn’t limit oneself to either art house movies, blockbusters or etc. but embraces and appreciates all types of movies.
Honestly I think that’s the right way to go about it. I think my top 10 has all kinds of movies. And honestly if I saw someone else’s lists of favorite movies were all blockbusters I’d still have respect for it. If you like cinema as an art form, watch what you’re interested in, take your time, and judge things by your personal feelings towards them (not anyone else’s)
The problem is that you have a lot of people who consider themselves film buffs, yet have a "so what?" reaction when you mention a film that is generally regarded as a classic. If you speak to someone with a wide interest in films, you might hear this: Film Buff: "Oh, I've heard of that film, haven't seen it yet. Is it as good as people say?" Then you may receive this response: So-Called Film Buff With A Narrow Scope: "Yeah...okay." You'll find that the second type is usually the one who immerses him or herself in Marvel, DC, and a certain bunch of movies about a galaxy far, far away. It's an odd form of snobbery where they regard arthouse films and particular genres as being beneath them, yet consider comic book flicks to be the pinnacle of cinematic achievement.
@@nicholasleavitt5326 Depends on the blockbuster. Blockbusters are just big budget, high concept movies. A number of the consensus greatest of all time are blockbusters, mostly because those budgets allow for a full realization of an idea. But most aren’t like that, they often lack personality, and have no vision, by the numbers and predictable which is just lame. If the media isn’t challenging you or pushing in some way then you are just filling gaps of the fleeting moments of your life with nothingness that you aren’t even actually invested in.
Anyone that tells you that blockbusters have no inherent artistic value is full of it. Guardians of the Galaxy is one of the best movies ever made about found family. Though Birdman was my favorite film that year. 😅
Phase 5 Is when you go back to your favorite movies and appreciate their craft, in terms of camera work (lenses and aspect ratio use) and everything else, blocking, effective production design, actor's directing and stuff.
Exactly. I didn't even realize what production design was until 2022, but it was a huge part of why I love Star Wars and Jurassic Park. And honestly, a movie that manages to use these elements of filmmaking to connect with both cinephiles and casual viewers is much more of an achievement than a movie that uses these aspects in a really niche artsy way.
This is still pretentious (and stage 4 from the video). And that’s fine, who cares. You spent a lot of time watching movies - you get to be pretentious asshole about them, you earned it.
This is especially true, I'm going back for Pixar films, I have to say that I didn't only grew up with these films, they grew with me, I also went to some Star Wars film cycle and the pannelist said the same. My most watched movie of all time is Cars and I'll defend it til the day I die.
@@Accountnamehere1968There are lot of things I appreciate now from George Lucas and Steven Spielberg even more that when I was a kid. We have an excellent taste buddy👍
Growing up is realizing that not everyone has the free time to deep dive into French New Wave cinema, and if an adult is really excited about the new Fast and Furious, it's because they got responsibilities and they just want to watch something that can take their mind off those things.
Oh, please. If you have time to watch the seemingly interminable FAST AND FURIOUS series, you have time for other things. What, you can't enjoy a French New Wave movie? Did you ever stop to think that a lot of people are extremely narrow in their view of movies, and only consume whatever is produced in Hollywood? It's one thing to like a Hollywood movie. It's another to turn one's nose up at anything that has subtitles for Anglophonic audiences. Yours is one of the worst takes that I've ever read.
@@markv1274 man, you should be the one promoting art house cinema! Because if there’s one thing audiences love, it’s being lectured by film snobs about why they must support the fine arts 🎭
I don't care if people have preferences for populist art after they've seen other things, but if you refuse to ever branch out, you're just kind of robbing yourself of great stuff.
That feels a bit condescending but certainly is a bit shallow. You don't need much time to enjoy arthouse, not more or less than with Hollywood blockbusters. It's just a question of what you're passionate about and what you want out of films. And you don't have to deep dive to get into arthouse either. markv isn't entirely wrong especially in the sense that consumerism is fuxking big and oftentimes pretty ugly and many people just use film and TV as another form of fast food consumption. That in and of itself isn't bad because films can be absolute awesome escapism and, well, fast food. Ain't nothing wrong with that. It's just the excess of our society that makes it, looking at it as a whole, unfortunate. Just like how this bingewatch culture is kinda horrible if you think about it. But film and cinema has always ALSO been an entertainment industry and that's just two different worlds that overlap occasionally. Some people get into it and dive more into classics and whatnot, others get into culture and get obsessed with film festivals of low budget films of wherever, others are just in for the action and will ride or die with every Fast and the Furious. And all of these things are awesome. It's true that many people just stick to what they know but that's true with music, film, food, places, anything really. It's definitely wise to at least give new things a chance but as I said there's nothing wrong with just not really wanting to.
Phase 1: "What's the most popular movie?" Phase 2: "Liking the most popular movies says nothing about me. What's something with flavor?" Phase 3: "Liking stylistic movies has nothing of substance. What's something that's smart?" Phase 4: "Movies that are smart are too hard. What's something that's pretentious?" Phase 5: "Pretentious movies give me no joy. What's a movie I actually like?"
"I know, the popular thing!" Not where I thought this was going. I fell asleep during A New Hope when I was a child, woke up during Return of the Jedi. I was like six or seven. Laser swords are cool and everything, but my step dad said it would be a fun adventure, and I fell asleep...
@@DannoHungWhen a director’s avant-garde vision is treated as if it was something profound and meaningful when it’s really making a mountain out of a molehill, dismissing all those who don’t see the vision as ignorant or stupid without considering their own shortcomings.
2001 is unironically one of my favorite movies not for any pretentious reasons, it's like so calm and interesting I just love looking at it, like it's a moving painting. I love all the music too
It’s funny, this kind of happened to me with the Indiana Jones movies. They were my absolute favorites growing up. Then I started getting into other 20th century classics, in addition to war movies and crime thrillers, kind of leaving my childhood films behind. In college I took several international film electives and got exposed to all that and can now appreciate all the aspects of filmmaking. Then last summer I rewatched the IJ movies for the first time in many years and had an absolute blast with them. I experienced not only nostalgia, but a new appreciation for how great especially Raiders is, as a film of its time. After you’ve watched a ton and gotten exposed to a lot of different things, it just comes down to what you love personally. I’ve also learned it’s certainly possible and a great thing to enjoy both artistic cinema and movies that offer just simple entertainment.
One great thing about exploring a wider cinema is going back to movies one loves and discovering a whole new appreciation for them. I’m a big fan of Tarantino’s movies for instance, but you do get a much larger understanding of something like Reservoir Dogs after you’ve seen Django. The Indiana Jones movies are actually great examples of that, now that I think about it. I don’t appreciated how hilarious some of The Last Crusade until I came back to it with an understanding of film editing.
I once dated a girl who was none of these. She literally didn't watch movies. She said they were over too fast and she liked to make things last, so she preferred TV series. That's if she was looking for passive entertainment. She was usually out in the world dancing or being a competitive gymnast or finishing her computer science/programming degree or acting in musicals, etc. I let her slip through my fingers like an idiot and now she's dead so i can never apologize. But anyway I'm grateful to have met her. Thanks for coming to my TED talk 😅
Idk what it is but I've met so many women who are just "idk I don't watch movies or shows" And they usually have no other interests either like what the hell do you do in your free time girl
the real phase 5 is just liking anything you actually like and exploring every possible corner of cinema with no bias towards whether its "objectively good/bad" or "true art" or w/e, and not trying to impress people you will probably never actually meet. anything from Bergman to B-movies, from the French New Wave to 1980s action/horror anime, from 4-hour documentaries about German tourism in China during the 80s to Japanese V-Cinema from the early 2000s, from K-dramas to Bollywood...
The ultimate stage is understanding that every movie has the same potential of being artistic valuable. You don't like something "despite it's trash." If you like it there may be reasons why it may not be trash, stand for it. Stalker and Star Wars should be equal, as well as a Bergman film and Barbie.
Meanwhile I can enjoy both. Hot take: Legally Blonde is the real Barbie movie before Greta Gerwig's Barbie and Reese Witherspoon was the right casting choice.
Poptimism was great and well intentioned but has honestly killed off a necessary part of the art ecosystem. We need to bring back the endangered snob to hold people to a higher standard
In all seriousness, I’d consider myself a movie buff…but at the same time, I like what I like and don’t let others opinions of movies justify mine. I have a ton of hot takes in other words. Form your own opinions people.
They think they're doing that when they settle on Star Wars. As if the fact that so many of them settle on the most comfortable answer, what was popular, from when they were children tells you nothing about how well the majority of them formulate their own opinions.
I'm at the phase I find the weirdest ass movies from before the 90s and force my friends to watch them. "You guys see Pink Flamingos? No? Alright sit down and buckle up."
I first watched that movie with a new roommate and we didnt' know each other very well, yet. 20ish minutes in, one of us worked up the courage to say, "I'm really not enjoying this. You wanna do something else?" And the other one said, "Absolutely. This is awful." It was a bonding moment.
Pink Flamingos is a pretty popular film in ghe circles I've run into- not to shoot it down, its fantastic- but it is a common like amongst cinephiles and film students.
@@deshrektiveshow is him retarding himself good? You know you can watch "pretentious" things without yourself becoming pretentious, right? (In case that's what you're afraid of).
@@deshrektives how is him dumbing himself down good? You know you can watch "pretentious" things without becoming pretentious yourself, right? (In case that's what you're afraid of).
That’s what I like about the movie culture. Your perception and liking changes with time and what part of life you are in. I got into the game fairly early for my environment and by the time everyone else figured stuff out I had already reached the final phase. Now I just yearn to feel something at all.
I think that a true cinephile is someone who has an open mind about watching every kind of movie without prejudices, wether it's Aguirre The Wrath of God, Solaris, Paris Texas or Despeciable me 2.
My dad was a major cinephile in college and now when you ask him his favorite movie he usually either names a wes anderson movie or into the spider-verse
Genuinely one of the funniest happenings. Watching movies as a kid, avoiding them for 20 years, returning and realizing how incredibly structured they are with amazing story and undertones. Being a cinephile means finding joy in it all.
@@grumweld ? My favorite I’m totally serious being pretentious about Terrence Malick. The Thin Red Line is my favorite movie ever absolutely made me enjoy life more.
I feel phase 5 big time lmfao. I enjoy so many different kinds & styles of film, but I always come back to my old favorites that struck a cord from me from the youngest age. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Predator, Terminator, Alien(s), Robocop. The fact that they all hold-up well into my adulthood is what keeps 'em well-entrenched as my all timers. Being able to go back and genuinely appreciate the sheer love and craft that went into all of them. I fuckin' love movies, man.
I'm convinced that Phase 4s are like one in a million maybe, they barely exist. Most people just skip that phase and realize that its more important to just have fun. Also learning to appreciate cool, beautiful or impressive shit on screen or the sometimes crazy and ingenious processes that went into making a movie.
There’s an elegance to Star Wars that a lot of people miss. It’s a simple film, but it’s made so earnestly and so well that it transcends the cliches. It tapped into what George Lucas loved about adventure serials and the Hero’s Journey and reminded people why they loved them too.
Really thankful I’m at phase 5. Sure, my top 3 movies consist of Night of the Hunter and One Flew Over the Cuckoos nest, however now I have no shame in saying Spiderman 2 is my #1
Call me in phase 7 when you watch Marketa Lazarová and you question yourself if it was worth it being a cinephile all along. Then you watch bee movie and the circle starts again.
Nick Cage has to be admired for his commitment to the role and incredible work ethic. Adaptation, Bad Lieutenant, Leaving Las Vegas, Face Off, to name a few are well directed and beautifully shot. It is simply ignorant to write him off based on National Treasure jokes.
@nl3064 Phase 2 cinephile detected. Th camera setups, the practical effects, the framing/establishing shots, the color, theyre classic examples from their era and incredibly comfy. Nothing exotic because it wouldn't suit the film. They can't even make films like that today it's all fucken computers out the wazoo. Vampire's Kiss is another one, total retarded script but the sets, the costumes, and the bumper shots of the city are great.
And by "classic examples" you mean bland and conventional. And "incredibly comfy" is a vague, nothing phrase from personal opinion. And just because something is done practically, how does that inherently make it any less shitty? And just for reference, you, who are so easily impressed by the completely conventional and think decrying all C.G. alone makes you superior, what phase do you think you're at ? 🤔
If there’s anything I realized from watching films and analyzing them it’s that there is a line between criticism and complaining. Many people do the latter and mistake it for the former.
There is a difference between liking Star Wars in Phase One and Phase Five: In Phase One, the individual usually likes Star Wars because it was an enjoyable experience. In Phase Five, they will explain, in meticulous detail, how it is a masterpiece - how the writing is perfect (at least for the OT), how the VFX is a masterpiece and how it pioneered in that field, etc. Also, underrated channel; great stuff keep it up
Lmao yup, you hit the nail on the head. Don't forget the legendary John Williams score on top of all that. And also, thank you so much! I've only been making videos for a few weeks now, and this skit was the most fun I've had making a video so far. Definitely plan on doing more, got my next one almost done.
My favorite thing after entering stage 5+ is when people hear you’re a “movie buff” and yet you haven’t seen “Random 2000s Era Comedy #62” so how could you really be a movie buff? “Sorry I’ve never seen Scary Movie 4, Dale, have you seen Sansho the Bailiff? How about The White Ribbon? No? Didn’t think so.”
This video hits the spot. I consider myself a movie fan, my personal fav movie of all time is Once upon a time in America and I love discussions about film, but some cinephiles are so pretentious.
I tried that movie. It made me feel gross. But I can absolutely agree there's some real artistic skill there, especially with that time jump. I think that's a big part of being a fan, understanding the breakdown between craft, personal appeal, and thematic depth.
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Phase 5: "I really liked how Star Wars paid tribute to Kurosawa."
This is the way.
True enlightenment
“The Mandalorian is a wonderful homage to the Lone Wolf and Cub series, and baby Grogu’s choice in that random Book of Boba Fett episode is a direct reference to the choice presented to Daigoro in the first film: Sword of Vengeance.”
@@bencarlson4300 I love everyone using Star Wars as a springboard for their appreciation of classic Japanese action cinema.
As the top-voted comment on this video, I feel am entitled to making a movie recommendation: Six-String Samurai
From the opening scroll: "In 1957, the bomb dropped, and the Russians took over what was America.
"The last bastion of freedom became a place called Lost Vegas and Elvis was crowned King.
"After for rockin' years, the King is dead.
"Every guitar picking, sword swinging opportunist, including Death himself, hears the call echoing across the wastelands.
"Vegas needs a new King."
It's about Buddy Holly traveling across a post-apocalyptic wasteland with a katana duct taped to the back of his hollow-body electric guitar, on his way to Lost Vegas to become King.
It is exactly as I am billing it. If you think this sounds awesome, it is. If it doesn't sound like your kind of thing, it's probably not. Six-String Samurai. Free to watch on YT
EDIT: And the soundtrack is fire
Phase 5: actually liking movies
phase 6: liking gubner
I was expecting phase 5 to be Shrek or The Lion King
It's really accurate when you can't be more elite, you're going back to enjoying popular movies but at the same time you also have good taste for other movies
YES!
Phase 6: “Guys Transformers 3 actually goes pretty hard.”
"Michael Bay is actually one of the top industry auteurs and his kinetic action and commercial instincts against the dull and overplayed aspects of the Marvel Cinematic Universe make him deeply wanted in the realm of cinema"
Never go full Armond White.
It always has
HHAHAHA fuck off Hahahhaha lol. Transporter 2 babyyyyy
Phase 7: Dude, you gotta check out Takashi Miike. (Twitches a little_
Pour one out for the losers who reached phase four, stalled, and are now insufferable at parties.
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Why are you implying you actually go to parties
@@lilaclunablossomBecause the Mind Palace is spacious and lively, perfect for parties!!!
What's most insufferable is someone who only watches Disney franchises and thinks anyone who likes other cinema is pretentious. Bergman films are not inaccessible and everyone should enjoy them.
@@lilaclunablossomI don't think sociability comes into it these people will ramble about films to strangers or even them self in private, it's just their obnoxious nature 😅
Phase 4 its the only time he doesn't say which is his favourite movie, because he became so pretentious that he doesn't like movies any more
Nah, it's because as insufferable as these people are, they are already at a point where they don't have just one or two favourite movies or directors. Phase 5 is the same except you stop being snobbish about films and can appreciate movies that simply make you feel good even if they don't have great artistic value.
I bet you can't even name 10 silent films 😤 *deflects accusation*
Or the most obscure indie movie possible that only 10 people on earth know about
@@RaccoonGrrrl yeah, i think they have a competition with each other of having the most obscure movie as their favorite
I definitely feel like theres a point where some cinephiles start to like obscure, shitty movies just because its unique.
this is so accurate. Literally watched thousands of films and felt cool. Then I 28 years old and now I'm like "idk...Superbad I guess"
Bro same
Stepbrothers
Yeah I went through all thjs 😂 truth is, once you start working you dont really want to watch some slow subtitled movie in the evening, would rather put on some trashy action movie
28 isn't old enough to hit the final phase
Superbad fucks hard.... As does Kurosawa
Phase 5: Showing his physical media collection while doing a video about the different phases of a cinephile 😂
LMAO you got me there
Home theater needs to have an actual film projector, and the only films made since the 40s that they like are all b/w macro lens shots of the most asinine things, like eye buggers in the morning and toe nail fungus.
@@meeponinthbit3466 meanwhile there’s me: “would you like to see my VHS collection! Please!”
hey, write what you know
@@JangoDiscI would've loved if you first showed VHS, then DVD, Blu-ray and so on, just to show the progress through ages
Phase 1: pop culture blockbusters
Phase 2: pop culture indies
Phase 3: classic cinema
Phase 4: artsy european cinema
Phase 5: I don't have time for this sh!t
Also, it's amazing that you figured out the full circle while still being so young. It took me 40 years.
Alright but where is the simplistic yet beautiful asian cinema of Satyajit Ray, Akira Kurosawa etc....
@@muhammadzaidmuckba9097 Akira Kurosawa? That's for tourists. You should check Yasujiro Ozu and Masaki Kobayashi if you really want to know japanese cinema.
@@muhammadzaidmuckba9097 I feel like it's another branch. One snob group gets obsessed with European filmmaking and the other with South East/East Asian cinema. I went that route and now I'm all about dramatic and even stupid samurai and wuxia films so I'm not mad
real i’m in phase 5 and just don’t have the energy or attention span to branch out anymore and watch a bunch of foreign films
Ah yes, there's a Bonus Stage before the completion of the circle, that not many cinephiles get to discover: total cynicism and looking down upon movies (and movie fans) that take themselves seriously - Grindhouse, Exploitation, 70s/80s Hong Kong (kung fu), Cult B movies, etc.
Phase 6: "Yo have you ever watched 'Who killed Captain Alex'?"
A great film no doubt
no... art itself portrayed on earth, a marvel never seen before in the whole history of mankind, a bet of a place abandoned by humankind's memory, Uganda has shown that it is capable of making, a beauté impossible to describe, the CINEMA in its maximum magnificence.
Phase 7: "Surviving Edged Weapons is a cinematic masterpiece."
Phase 7: “MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE!!!”
I’ve actually never heard of it, what’s it about?
@@BlueTyphoon2017It's broke Ugandans making a nonsensical action movie having the time of their lives. An absolute 10/10 movie with pure, undistilled joy. It's on RUclips and is barely over an hour long.
0/10 no pretentious speech about the godfather
I think you meant the Godfather Part II
No because the godfather it’s the cinephile’s parents favorite movie.
It insists upon itself
You know what I like about the godfather? The _camera angles_
@@CatMaster90001😂 nice. (But no for real, part 2 kinda does insist upon itself. )
Phase 6 is when you just watch bad but funny movies like madame web and forgot your favorite movie.
Lmao true
Kung Fu Panda, while a cinematic masterpiece in its own right, must bow down to Shrek as the most important 3D animated film of all time. Toy Story was the first of great significance but Shrek was the real sea change.
Basically. I've watched thousands of movies in my life and my favorites are Turkish Star Wars, Samurai Cop, and Deadly Prey.
My god I'm in phase 6.
The rlm route
Peter Weller (Robocop) did an interview where he talked about finishing a doctoral dissertation on Venetian Renaissance architecture and how he now hates everything about Venetian Renaissance architecture.
Well he probably wanted to be an actor by that point not an architect so it's kinda logical
Coincidentally Robocop is my favourite movie. 🍿
Glad I never went for a doctorate in English!
He got the doctorate maybe 15 years ago, long after his 80s movie career. He absolutely loved it at first but hated it by the end because all the joy was stripped out of it.
@@mgsalmon79 Phase 5: "Robocop 3 actually has cool samurai robots!"
Phase 6: Paddington 2 is a cinematic masterpiece
Yeap, Nic Cage can confirm that
gubner is the real phase 6
fact, i so much love Paddington, its look like film by Wes Anderson
Undoubtedly. It is easily in my Top 10.
stage 6 for me was realizing I really just like pulp and exploitation
The best definition of Stage 6 is this quote by Roger Ebert from his review of Gamera: Guardian Of The Universe : There's a learning process that moviegoers go through. They begin in childhood without sophistication or much taste, and for example, like "Gamera'' more than "Air Force One" because flying turtles are obviously more entertaining than United States presidents. Then they grow older and develop "taste,'' and prefer "Air Force One," which is better made and has big stars and a more plausible plot. (Isn't it more believable, after all, that a president could single-handedly wipe out a planeload of terrorists than that a giant turtle could spit gobs of flame?) Then, if they continue to grow older and wiser, they complete the circle and return to "Gamera'' again, realizing that while both movies are preposterous, the turtle movie has the charm of utter goofiness--and, in an age of flawless special effects, it is somehow more fun to watch flawed ones.
phase 6 is when you like gubner
@@fredericmigneret4211 Man, Roger Ebert was a true cinephile, he really does get it.
To be quite honest my experience of truly annoying "cinephiles" has been people who are in phase 2 or 3 but think they're in phase 4. Meeting an insufferable film bro who has seen more than just tarantino and nolan is a rare treat. Still an awful treat, but a rare one.
Well I'm that awful treat. Although to be honest, I do love Tarantino.
The beauty of phase 5+ is being able to like Bergman and Bresson, while also liking Nolan and Tarantino.
Actually it goes Tarantino, Nolan, Fincher Kubrick. And they all seem like 4chan Libertarians who believe in the bell curve for some reason, at least that was my (very brief) film school experience.
@@futurestoryteller Feels like Scorsese and Villeneuve are above Kubrick for these kinds of people.
True. Film snobs like those in Phase 4 can be really insufferable, but at least they by that point have some knowledge on the subject of film. Filmbros however will act like they are the most knowledgeable people because they've seen nearly every Nolan, Tarantino, and Scorsese film.
Phase 5 is being able to watch a Bela Tarr movie followed by Transformers and a 70s exploitation movie all in the same day.
and then phase 6 is finally watching gubner
@@dietaryanomolywhat's gubner
The true peak of being a cinefile is when you start appreciating every little effort and filmmaking technique that goes into ALL movies big and small, not just the ones that are popular on rotten tomatoes or letterboxd
Honestly, one of the coolest things about watching a lot of movies as an adult is coming back to the movies I loved as a kid, like Star Wars, Back to the Future, Jurassic Park or Indiana Jones and realising they all still rock
Hell yeah! Coming back to them and understanding the writing better as an adult is a treat, you catch stuff that went over your head as a kid. Plus, going back to them with a greater understanding of movies in general has you appreciate them more on a technical level too. Honestly? It's just about having a passion for the medium of cinema while not letting cynicism cloud your judgment of the actual movies themselves. They're there to enjoy!
This his been pretty much, every year I revisit Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Back to the Future just to realize they're still great, and is not just a matter of nostalgia, you start to realize about details you didn't before, I also earned more appreciation for George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Robert Zemeckis. I found myself revisiting Pixar, those films grew up with me.
I'll watch Back to the Future any day of the week!
(Star Wars, Indy and Jurassic Park also!)
As a kid, I feel like I didn't have the critical thinking or experience to understand movies so I just thought "my dad said this movie is good, so it's good." And rewatching those movies as an adult is like "this is *why* my dad said this is a good movie"
Shaun Of The Dead (2004) has always been my number one favorite film, no matter how many slow paced, foreign atmospheric dramas I've seen and loved
@@AbrasiousProductions hell yeah dude
@@monguskooklord7867 thank you✌
Super nostalgiac movie for me too. Seen it young and always loved the zombie genre and horror as a kid
Hot Fuzz right here, Cornetto trilogy for life
cinephiles love Shaun of the Dead and hot fuzz
I’m currently in phase 5. So glad I’m not as pretentious about movies as I used to be. A true cinema lover doesn’t limit oneself to either art house movies, blockbusters or etc. but embraces and appreciates all types of movies.
Honestly I think that’s the right way to go about it. I think my top 10 has all kinds of movies. And honestly if I saw someone else’s lists of favorite movies were all blockbusters I’d still have respect for it. If you like cinema as an art form, watch what you’re interested in, take your time, and judge things by your personal feelings towards them (not anyone else’s)
The problem is that you have a lot of people who consider themselves film buffs, yet have a "so what?" reaction when you mention a film that is generally regarded as a classic.
If you speak to someone with a wide interest in films, you might hear this:
Film Buff: "Oh, I've heard of that film, haven't seen it yet. Is it as good as people say?"
Then you may receive this response:
So-Called Film Buff With A Narrow Scope: "Yeah...okay."
You'll find that the second type is usually the one who immerses him or herself in Marvel, DC, and a certain bunch of movies about a galaxy far, far away. It's an odd form of snobbery where they regard arthouse films and particular genres as being beneath them, yet consider comic book flicks to be the pinnacle of cinematic achievement.
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Not if the Star Wars sequels are in that list.
@@nicholasleavitt5326 Depends on the blockbuster. Blockbusters are just big budget, high concept movies. A number of the consensus greatest of all time are blockbusters, mostly because those budgets allow for a full realization of an idea. But most aren’t like that, they often lack personality, and have no vision, by the numbers and predictable which is just lame. If the media isn’t challenging you or pushing in some way then you are just filling gaps of the fleeting moments of your life with nothingness that you aren’t even actually invested in.
Anyone that tells you that blockbusters have no inherent artistic value is full of it. Guardians of the Galaxy is one of the best movies ever made about found family. Though Birdman was my favorite film that year. 😅
Phase 6 : let’s watch Spider-Man 2 again
phase 6 is gubner
Phase 5 Is when you go back to your favorite movies and appreciate their craft, in terms of camera work (lenses and aspect ratio use) and everything else, blocking, effective production design, actor's directing and stuff.
Exactly. I didn't even realize what production design was until 2022, but it was a huge part of why I love Star Wars and Jurassic Park. And honestly, a movie that manages to use these elements of filmmaking to connect with both cinephiles and casual viewers is much more of an achievement than a movie that uses these aspects in a really niche artsy way.
i recently went back and watched old spongebob, and i was absolutely delighted by how strong its comedy is
This is still pretentious (and stage 4 from the video). And that’s fine, who cares. You spent a lot of time watching movies - you get to be pretentious asshole about them, you earned it.
This is especially true, I'm going back for Pixar films, I have to say that I didn't only grew up with these films, they grew with me, I also went to some Star Wars film cycle and the pannelist said the same.
My most watched movie of all time is Cars and I'll defend it til the day I die.
@@Accountnamehere1968There are lot of things I appreciate now from George Lucas and Steven Spielberg even more that when I was a kid. We have an excellent taste buddy👍
Phase 7: Watching all those foreign films in theaters without subtitles.
Nah, that's literally what phase 4 is
@@AcetylsaliciIique
Nah because they’re actually watching them in this one
With the hand in your pants scratching your balls at all times
@@AcetylsaliciIique Phase 4 watches them without subtitles without understanding "as intended".
Phase 5: Freddy Got Fingered is a cinematic masterpiece.
phase 6: gubner is a cinematic masterpiece
Growing up is realizing that not everyone has the free time to deep dive into French New Wave cinema, and if an adult is really excited about the new Fast and Furious, it's because they got responsibilities and they just want to watch something that can take their mind off those things.
Oh, please. If you have time to watch the seemingly interminable FAST AND FURIOUS series, you have time for other things.
What, you can't enjoy a French New Wave movie?
Did you ever stop to think that a lot of people are extremely narrow in their view of movies, and only consume whatever is produced in Hollywood? It's one thing to like a Hollywood movie. It's another to turn one's nose up at anything that has subtitles for Anglophonic audiences.
Yours is one of the worst takes that I've ever read.
@@markv1274 man, you should be the one promoting art house cinema! Because if there’s one thing audiences love, it’s being lectured by film snobs about why they must support the fine arts 🎭
@@markv1274
Oh great, it's the Cinephile 5.
I don't care if people have preferences for populist art after they've seen other things, but if you refuse to ever branch out, you're just kind of robbing yourself of great stuff.
That feels a bit condescending but certainly is a bit shallow. You don't need much time to enjoy arthouse, not more or less than with Hollywood blockbusters. It's just a question of what you're passionate about and what you want out of films. And you don't have to deep dive to get into arthouse either.
markv isn't entirely wrong especially in the sense that consumerism is fuxking big and oftentimes pretty ugly and many people just use film and TV as another form of fast food consumption. That in and of itself isn't bad because films can be absolute awesome escapism and, well, fast food. Ain't nothing wrong with that. It's just the excess of our society that makes it, looking at it as a whole, unfortunate. Just like how this bingewatch culture is kinda horrible if you think about it.
But film and cinema has always ALSO been an entertainment industry and that's just two different worlds that overlap occasionally. Some people get into it and dive more into classics and whatnot, others get into culture and get obsessed with film festivals of low budget films of wherever, others are just in for the action and will ride or die with every Fast and the Furious. And all of these things are awesome.
It's true that many people just stick to what they know but that's true with music, film, food, places, anything really. It's definitely wise to at least give new things a chance but as I said there's nothing wrong with just not really wanting to.
Your favorite movie at 8 or 9 years old will probably be your favorite movie at 80
so true bro. my favorite movie is fucking the incredible hulk as much as i think it's a horrible movie
Phase 1: "What's the most popular movie?"
Phase 2: "Liking the most popular movies says nothing about me. What's something with flavor?"
Phase 3: "Liking stylistic movies has nothing of substance. What's something that's smart?"
Phase 4: "Movies that are smart are too hard. What's something that's pretentious?"
Phase 5: "Pretentious movies give me no joy. What's a movie I actually like?"
"I know, the popular thing!"
Not where I thought this was going.
I fell asleep during A New Hope when I was a child, woke up during Return of the Jedi. I was like six or seven. Laser swords are cool and everything, but my step dad said it would be a fun adventure, and I fell asleep...
Pretentious should be banned from being used ever again jfc
What makes a movie pretentious?
@@DannoHungWhen a director’s avant-garde vision is treated as if it was something profound and meaningful when it’s really making a mountain out of a molehill, dismissing all those who don’t see the vision as ignorant or stupid without considering their own shortcomings.
@@DannoHunghard to define, easy to recognize
In phase five you learn that if the movie is entertaining than it's good. It's not about how smart you want to sound.
2001 is unironically one of my favorite movies not for any pretentious reasons, it's like so calm and interesting I just love looking at it, like it's a moving painting. I love all the music too
This, the movie just speaks to me
@@yrasheddc it's like a love letter from the past to a hopeful future
@@HubbardiumKing kubrick is just timeless. it's still my favorite movie and I've been through the phases, all 27 of them
@yrasheddc the only Kubrick films I haven't seen yet is Lolita, Barry Lyndon, and eyes wide shut.
@@HubbardiumKing Barry Lyndon is my second favorite and is very close to 2001 imo, you have to check it out.
Lolita and EWS are also fantastic
It’s funny, this kind of happened to me with the Indiana Jones movies. They were my absolute favorites growing up. Then I started getting into other 20th century classics, in addition to war movies and crime thrillers, kind of leaving my childhood films behind. In college I took several international film electives and got exposed to all that and can now appreciate all the aspects of filmmaking. Then last summer I rewatched the IJ movies for the first time in many years and had an absolute blast with them. I experienced not only nostalgia, but a new appreciation for how great especially Raiders is, as a film of its time. After you’ve watched a ton and gotten exposed to a lot of different things, it just comes down to what you love personally. I’ve also learned it’s certainly possible and a great thing to enjoy both artistic cinema and movies that offer just simple entertainment.
One great thing about exploring a wider cinema is going back to movies one loves and discovering a whole new appreciation for them. I’m a big fan of Tarantino’s movies for instance, but you do get a much larger understanding of something like Reservoir Dogs after you’ve seen Django.
The Indiana Jones movies are actually great examples of that, now that I think about it. I don’t appreciated how hilarious some of The Last Crusade until I came back to it with an understanding of film editing.
@@samuelbarber6177 Absolutely
Phase 7 is crying earnestly with the room's drama
and phase 6 is gubner
Phase 2.5: Ha! Pulp Fiction? Let me show you a real movie: Trainspotting
Dude this is pretty damn accurate 😂
Phase 4: Oh, you say you’re a cinephile? Name every film ever released under The Criterion Collection.
Stage 4 is pretty much how everyone I know sees me, I never thought I could relate to a meme so much
you actually like Jeanne Dielman?... how do you feel about Breathless?..
@@AbrasiousProductions Not Richard Gere's best
No wonder you're european.
Phase 0: Getting a lot of Boss Baby vibes from this
I once dated a girl who was none of these. She literally didn't watch movies. She said they were over too fast and she liked to make things last, so she preferred TV series. That's if she was looking for passive entertainment. She was usually out in the world dancing or being a competitive gymnast or finishing her computer science/programming degree or acting in musicals, etc. I let her slip through my fingers like an idiot and now she's dead so i can never apologize. But anyway I'm grateful to have met her. Thanks for coming to my TED talk 😅
Idk what it is but I've met so many women who are just "idk I don't watch movies or shows"
And they usually have no other interests either like what the hell do you do in your free time girl
My sister's boyfriend literally doesn't watch movies, or TV shows. Just sports. He's a teacher.
I'm sorry for your loss. She sounds like a remarkable and unique person.
the real phase 5 is just liking anything you actually like and exploring every possible corner of cinema with no bias towards whether its "objectively good/bad" or "true art" or w/e, and not trying to impress people you will probably never actually meet. anything from Bergman to B-movies, from the French New Wave to 1980s action/horror anime, from 4-hour documentaries about German tourism in China during the 80s to Japanese V-Cinema from the early 2000s, from K-dramas to Bollywood...
I got too deep into cinema and got a degree in it and now my favorite movie is Re-Animator
This is the best outcome
I have a slight preference towards From Beyond but that's a good one.
The ultimate stage is understanding that every movie has the same potential of being artistic valuable. You don't like something "despite it's trash." If you like it there may be reasons why it may not be trash, stand for it. Stalker and Star Wars should be equal, as well as a Bergman film and Barbie.
Phase 5: "My favorite movie is this gory shot on video nunsploitation horror movie"
As this type of phase 5 guy I can confirm. The Halfway House is kinda fire
"Yeah I'm a big lynch guy"
Oh which is your favorite
"Dune"
Aristocats is unironically my favorite movie
Nothing is as freeing as one day unsubscribing from all the film critics you used to watch and realizing that it’s okay to just like the shit you like
Phase 6: “Star Wars? Seriously?! That’s such a basic answer.
My favourite movie is Legally Blonde”.
Damn that's one of the least drama movies ever, I forgot about. Only topped by Beavis & Butthead in A Great Day in feels.
Meanwhile I can enjoy both. Hot take: Legally Blonde is the real Barbie movie before Greta Gerwig's Barbie and Reese Witherspoon was the right casting choice.
the actual phase 6 is when you love gubner
Poptimism was great and well intentioned but has honestly killed off a necessary part of the art ecosystem. We need to bring back the endangered snob to hold people to a higher standard
No the real snobs are the poptimist. They all sound like the American Psycho before he kills someone.
Phase 6: ‘Why Nacho Libre is a cinematic masterpiece’
phase 6: why gubner is so important
Getting to phase 5 and just enjoying what makes you happy and wanting others to do the same is the true end goal.
I’m at the phase where I’m 33 and just rewatching 90s Are You Afraid Of The Dark episodes.
Don't forget to rewatch all the Doctor Who classics.
Phase X: "Meh, I haven't watched a movie in a long time. I mostly just watch RUclips these days."
Bruh, you didn't have to call me out like that
This is being in hell.
In all seriousness, I’d consider myself a movie buff…but at the same time, I like what I like and don’t let others opinions of movies justify mine.
I have a ton of hot takes in other words. Form your own opinions people.
They think they're doing that when they settle on Star Wars. As if the fact that so many of them settle on the most comfortable answer, what was popular, from when they were children tells you nothing about how well the majority of them formulate their own opinions.
Phase 6: “Surviving Edged Weapons” is a cinematic masterpiece
The Spongebob Sqaurepants Movie (2004) is a perfect film and no one can convince me otherwise.
I'm at the phase I find the weirdest ass movies from before the 90s and force my friends to watch them.
"You guys see Pink Flamingos? No? Alright sit down and buckle up."
I hear Lawnmower Man 2 is the best movie to force your friends to watch.
I would never do that to my friends, not even my fearest enemy.
I first watched that movie with a new roommate and we didnt' know each other very well, yet. 20ish minutes in, one of us worked up the courage to say, "I'm really not enjoying this. You wanna do something else?" And the other one said, "Absolutely. This is awful." It was a bonding moment.
@@edgedg If it's anything like the first one I'll need to check it out.
Pink Flamingos is a pretty popular film in ghe circles I've run into- not to shoot it down, its fantastic- but it is a common like amongst cinephiles and film students.
I liked that every phase is just about shitting on the later and being pretentious except the last one, where the guy just don't care
Phase 9000+ is when you appreciate the brief moments of excellence in any film.
LOL nice video dude. A real cinephile however would have atleast mentioned Indiana Jones series :P
Thanks! Also yeah haha nothing tops Indy!
@@JangoDisc NOTHING! :)
It’s officially an epidemic, everyone thinking “atleast” is a word.
@@JangoDiscfucking facts! Last Crusade is my go to for favorite movie.
So true, found myself revisiting Indy, not only I have so much fun, but I do appreciate Spielberg's directing much more.
This is exactly what happens usually 😂
Although to be fair in my case it was just phase 2 and 3
From Tarantino to Kubrick
I'm gonna sound like a total stage 4 here, but really? You never made it past just the American basics?
Good.
@@deshrektiveshow is him retarding himself good? You know you can watch "pretentious" things without yourself becoming pretentious, right? (In case that's what you're afraid of).
@@deshrektives how is him dumbing himself down good? You know you can watch "pretentious" things without becoming pretentious yourself, right? (In case that's what you're afraid of).
@@nl3064 I just like Kubrick better than Bergman 🤷♂️
You forgot the obligatory Stan Brakhage phase.
then the maya deren phase and possibly luis bunuel
yessss, I remember Dog Star Man was my favorite movie of all time at 14-17 lmao
Yes, yes, YES!!!! This is 1000% spot on. Phase 3 for me was also Paul Thomas Anderson films
I went through my phase 4 about 3 years ago. Last month i watched Con Air, twice. That movie is balls, loved every minute.
Pretty damn accurate. We should just aggressively warn all the newbies about it so they can skip a few steps and go right back to enjoying things.
Nah it's fun to watch the cycle play out/stall
Phase 7 : do you even follow the AVN awards?
Phase 1: Amateur.
Phase 2: Redditor.
Phase 3: RUclipsr.
Phase 4: Critic.
Phase 5: Acceptance.
That’s what I like about the movie culture. Your perception and liking changes with time and what part of life you are in. I got into the game fairly early for my environment and by the time everyone else figured stuff out I had already reached the final phase. Now I just yearn to feel something at all.
Mans even got the 4k blu rays. True Kino
Cinephile basically means « LIKE MOVIES ». So I guess everyone who likes watching movies can be a cinephile 🤷♂️
I think that a true cinephile is someone who has an open mind about watching every kind of movie without prejudices, wether it's Aguirre The Wrath of God, Solaris, Paris Texas or Despeciable me 2.
My dad was a major cinephile in college and now when you ask him his favorite movie he usually either names a wes anderson movie or into the spider-verse
phase 5b: yeah dude, im thinkin FoodFight!/Salo double feature
May the algorithm be with you.
Tarkovsky not mentioned. Can live another day not called out.
"i watch stalker guys, im so smart!!!"
Meanwhile i already played all the games and couldnt care less
Genuinely one of the funniest happenings. Watching movies as a kid, avoiding them for 20 years, returning and realizing how incredibly structured they are with amazing story and undertones.
Being a cinephile means finding joy in it all.
Phase 6: "What's my favorite movie? Fritz Lang's Metropolis. Anyway I'm gonna see Despicable Me 4 this weekend"
Phase 6: ‘Shrek 2 is the ultimate definition of cinema’
There are some really serious Shrek fans out there. I give them a wide berth!
phase 6 is when you love gubner
Phase infinity post existential depression enlightenment: Terrence Malick.
are you joking
@@grumweld ? My favorite I’m totally serious being pretentious about Terrence Malick. The Thin Red Line is my favorite movie ever absolutely made me enjoy life more.
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uh oh we gotta a code 4 on the floor, I repeat a code 4 on the floor
@@earhearthush-up5549🤓🤓🤓 peace
I feel phase 5 big time lmfao. I enjoy so many different kinds & styles of film, but I always come back to my old favorites that struck a cord from me from the youngest age. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Predator, Terminator, Alien(s), Robocop.
The fact that they all hold-up well into my adulthood is what keeps 'em well-entrenched as my all timers. Being able to go back and genuinely appreciate the sheer love and craft that went into all of them. I fuckin' love movies, man.
I'm convinced that Phase 4s are like one in a million maybe, they barely exist. Most people just skip that phase and realize that its more important to just have fun. Also learning to appreciate cool, beautiful or impressive shit on screen or the sometimes crazy and ingenious processes that went into making a movie.
At least you didn't throw out The Holy Mountain as a reference lol
Seeiously, my top ten goes from movies like Blade Runner to Kung Fu Hustle.
There’s an elegance to Star Wars that a lot of people miss. It’s a simple film, but it’s made so earnestly and so well that it transcends the cliches. It tapped into what George Lucas loved about adventure serials and the Hero’s Journey and reminded people why they loved them too.
When people say I’m a film bro it’s not in a fight club way but a paddington 2 way
Really thankful I’m at phase 5. Sure, my top 3 movies consist of Night of the Hunter and One Flew Over the Cuckoos nest, however now I have no shame in saying Spiderman 2 is my #1
Call me in phase 7 when you watch Marketa Lazarová and you question yourself if it was worth it being a cinephile all along. Then you watch bee movie and the circle starts again.
Kinda reminds me of the Man Carrying Thing bit about your favourite animated movie as you get older, like I thought it'd end the same way.
As a cinefile myself, I can safely say that my favorite movie is Return of the Killer Tomatoes. John Astin rocks.
this is like those bell curve memes
Nick Cage has to be admired for his commitment to the role and incredible work ethic. Adaptation, Bad Lieutenant, Leaving Las Vegas, Face Off, to name a few are well directed and beautifully shot. It is simply ignorant to write him off based on National Treasure jokes.
In what way are those last three "beautifully shot?" They're super basic point-and-shoot video nothings.
@nl3064 Phase 2 cinephile detected. Th camera setups, the practical effects, the framing/establishing shots, the color, theyre classic examples from their era and incredibly comfy. Nothing exotic because it wouldn't suit the film. They can't even make films like that today it's all fucken computers out the wazoo.
Vampire's Kiss is another one, total retarded script but the sets, the costumes, and the bumper shots of the city are great.
And by "classic examples" you mean bland and conventional.
And "incredibly comfy" is a vague, nothing phrase from personal opinion. And just because something is done practically, how does that inherently make it any less shitty?
And just for reference, you, who are so easily impressed by the completely conventional and think decrying all C.G. alone makes you superior, what phase do you think you're at ? 🤔
@nl3064 im sorry there weren't enough Dutch angles and found footage for you I guess
@@nl3064 Dude. Bad Lieutenant is directed by Werner Herzog, it sure is beautifully shot. Also it's one of the funniest movies i've ever seen.
This was a masterpiece
Spent lockdown speedrunning these phases, now I watch cartoons on loop
If there’s anything I realized from watching films and analyzing them it’s that there is a line between criticism and complaining. Many people do the latter and mistake it for the former.
Absolutely. Gotta recognise the subjectivity in art. That should be media analysis 101.
@@StathioI argue basically art is all subjectivity. It's just what level you are looking at it from.
There is a difference between liking Star Wars in Phase One and Phase Five:
In Phase One, the individual usually likes Star Wars because it was an enjoyable experience.
In Phase Five, they will explain, in meticulous detail, how it is a masterpiece - how the writing is perfect (at least for the OT), how the VFX is a masterpiece and how it pioneered in that field, etc.
Also, underrated channel; great stuff keep it up
Lmao yup, you hit the nail on the head. Don't forget the legendary John Williams score on top of all that.
And also, thank you so much! I've only been making videos for a few weeks now, and this skit was the most fun I've had making a video so far. Definitely plan on doing more, got my next one almost done.
The secret phase 6 that only the most enlightened cinephiles ever reach: Star Wars is complete dogshit that's WHY they're the best movies ever made.
The writing's not spectacular (the dialogue atleast) but the chemistry of the cast overcomes it.
I went from being an arthouse snob when I was 19 to “yea man that dune movie was pretty sick” at 27.
I was really surprised Citizen Kane never came up…
Cars 2 is goated
gubner is goat
My favorite thing after entering stage 5+ is when people hear you’re a “movie buff” and yet you haven’t seen “Random 2000s Era Comedy #62” so how could you really be a movie buff?
“Sorry I’ve never seen Scary Movie 4, Dale, have you seen Sansho the Bailiff? How about The White Ribbon? No? Didn’t think so.”
I think you have Stage 4 Cinephelia
@@NoelScholtz Obviously I don't actually respond that way, it just gets annoying to be expected to have seen literally everything.
This is really good fun. Subscribed 👌🏼
You forgot the phase : Solaris is so much better than 2001...
And then "Yeah, Solaris was actually boring"
Lord of the rings.... Change my mind
Phase 6: talking to strangers about movies on the internet instead of watching them
phase 6 is gubner
Watching youtube clips of movies
pffft, easy, Scott Pilgrim vs The World from the day I saw it till the day I die. Plus anything with Ben Whishaw, I just love this dude so much.
This video hits the spot. I consider myself a movie fan, my personal fav movie of all time is Once upon a time in America and I love discussions about film, but some cinephiles are so pretentious.
I tried that movie. It made me feel gross. But I can absolutely agree there's some real artistic skill there, especially with that time jump. I think that's a big part of being a fan, understanding the breakdown between craft, personal appeal, and thematic depth.