I had serious issues on this famous road. Back of the Dragon First Ride!
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- I had serious issues on this famous road. Back of the Dragon First Ride! The Back of the Dragon is a 32-mile stretch of road in southwestern Virginia that twists and turns through the Appalachian Mountains, providing riders with breathtaking views and exhilarating curves. Riding the Back of the Dragon on a Honda Goldwing DCT can be challenging for some riders who are used to manual transmission bikes that require clutch control. The Honda Goldwing DCT has an automatic transmission system that uses a dual clutch to shift gears seamlessly. While this may seem like an advantage, riders who are not used to this type of transmission may find it challenging to control the bike in tight turns and steep inclines. Without clutch control, it can be difficult to manage the bike's speed and stability when navigating through the winding mountain roads of the Back of the Dragon. However, with practice and familiarity, riders can adapt to the Goldwing DCT's automatic transmission and master the art of riding this iconic route.
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My ride down the Tail of the Dragon was a bit more dramatic! ruclips.net/video/4CF8sY1wVEQ/видео.html
Jess, on the Goldwing DCT it helps to be in Sport Mode when riding a road like the Back of the Dragon. The Wing shifts and engine brakes much better in Sport Mode than in Tour Mode. 😎
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Hey Jess, I live here. We don't think about any of the "Famous Roads", we just drive them, enjoy the beauty and keep smiling.
FYI ... The first biker lady stood only 4 ft. 11 determined to ride a two-wheeler. In 1937, it was illegal for women to ride motorcycles. But 27-year-old Sally Halterman, or Sally Robinson as referred to in the archives, used her voice to become the first woman in Washington D.C. to get her motorcycle license. Story has it she rode motorbiked since 1928, but almost a decade later decided she wanted a permit. A policeman (who wouldn’t ride in her sidecar), two exams, a road test, and a lawyer later, she earned her license. In fact, Sally is the only woman to be initiated into the D.C. Motorcycle Club. Yay, Sally!
Ride sally ride!!
Follow the white rabbit 🐇...love the name, hope you know why! #WWG1WGA
If those cows wave back.....LOL! Jess, I hope you had a good time on this trip. I enjoyed your videos.
Great video. Love my PC800. Did a road trip from Ga to the Canadian Rockies years back. Greatest roadtrip I've ever done. By myself and feeling free. Next to the Dragon is the Cherohala Skyway. The turns are not as tight, long and sweeping which gives a better chance to enjoy the view with plenty of pull-offs and much less traffic of the folks trying to challenge the Dragon.
Back of the dragon is one of my favs. Did it almost yearly.
Loved that you and Jordan enjoyed the time together.
Hello Jess I don’t ride a goldwing but like most people I enjoy motorcycles content by content creators!!! I have owned two Harley Davidsons but have recently traded mines in BMW K1600GTL “LOVE IT” !!! I Watch a RUclipsr Chris Caliente who owns a Honda Gold wing DCT!!! You mentioned some concerns about mounting accessories for your video content and Chris has utilize his to the MAX!!! I agree with you that it’s riders issue !!! Great content!!! Incidentally I just came back form Charlotte NC Road trip from Sarasota!!!!
I live right at the beginning of the back of the dragon. You passed right by my house. I'm a new rider. Everyone says why haven't I rode it yet. I'm not that comfortable riding yet but do look forward to doing it one day. Thanks for the video
Ive ridden the TAIL of the dragon 7 times on 1500 Gwing, 1800 Gwing, 1100 yamaha, 1100 Bmw, Honda Concourse, aaaannd a Tw 200. Enjoyed all equally!!! Nice vid Jess!
Always great vids, and commentary
Thanks Friend!
Thanks for the video jess I enjoyed it especially enjoyed the part where you filmed from the back of the bike that awesome thank you ok talk to you later bye
I was at the first VAMM, it rained the whole time, including on our ride across The Back of the Dragon. Made it very interesting!!!
Her 2 Beers here, tff! g1! Have fun Best 2 you and Jordan! Ride safe!
The Scenery is Just AWESOME 👍👍👍
(Nice Camera angles)
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Thanks Jess for taking us along for the ride. That cabin & the view looked stunning. It's good to see yourself and Jordan getting out and about together too.
Fabulous videos as always & ride safe both y' all. 🏍🏍💨👍💕
Thanks for visiting our town (Tazewell). Once riding season really opens up VDOT tends to take better care of the gravel and roads.
Hey Jess, your missing out on a bunch of fun with your Wing by not using manual mode in more spirited riding environments. Don’t go into Sport mode right away, stay in Tour mode but you control the shifts not the bike. Remember the DCT will downshift if you allow it to even in Manual mode so don’t wait for that to happen. Downshift before the bike does in Manual mode and you will soon see the fun come back into your riding same as you would see in a conventional transmission equipped bike, but no clutch lever to worry about. If you want to spice things up more buy the optional foot shifter. That item is a gas to use and gives the shifting job to your foot just like the old days. Once you used to doing all this in Tour mode then dial up Sport mode as hang on.
Rick H.
Absolutely great on the twisties! I put mine in ‘Sport’ mode and enjoy the twisties! The best thing about Sport Mode for me is that the engine braking and shifting is nearly exactly how I would shift. I can focus on the ride, not on what gear I need to be in, a definite DCT perk!
I was listening to her shifting complaints and saw the bike in touring mode and was like; just use the modes properly (SPORT) and you'll be fine... smh.
Sport on a DCT feels way too jumpy to me, I probably would have tried this in Touring as well.
@@cl2eep_rides I was the same way for a few months, then I just decided I needed to get used to everything and kind off went through all of the modes. Sport can be a little jumpy, but then we are kind of learning new throttle skills with the DCT.
If you do not want to know what gear you are in, hand in your license, I don’t want you on the road, you are dangerous!
For every bit of “ convenience” you sacrifice a freedom, the ability to stuff.
There is a price you pay.
@@cl2eep_rides it’s only “jumpy” because you’re not used to it. I just rode this area and Arkansas back roads. Sport mode is flawless .
Work with it for a minute , while riding twisties or technical rides and you’ll love it .
Also I don’t normally use sport mode, I generally ride in eco mode so don’t think I’m some adrenaline junky 😆
Man, you were just 5 miles from where I live. Right off 77 after you crossed over the VA line. I watch you all the time. Really enjoy seeing the country with you. Getting ready to ride the Back of the Dragon again in a couple weeks.
You're pretty cool...subscribed! I just bought (yesterday) a Goldwing non-tour (bagger?) and I consider it the best motorcycle I've ever ridden and I've ridden a lot of bikes in my 30 years of
riding.
Hi Jess, very cool, but the views going from north to south are better. I was at the very top at sunset and what a VIEW!! seeing the sunset over the mountains in the distance was fantastic!!! Glad y'all had a great time.
Agree
I rode this both ways back in 2019! Great ride. The one lookout does allow to see the switchback.
Another great video. Thank for sharing. We camp out near there in the summer months. There is a great BBQ spot in Carthage NC called The PiknPig. People ride and fly in to get BBQ. Great spot and lots of country roads to ride. Plus the planes coming and going for lunch are cool to watch.
Very easy to add ball mounts to the handle bar / control clamp screws for phone holders, cup holders, and cameras. Goldstrike or Ciro makes good ones.
Maggie Valley is the town to stay in. It's just west of Ashville. It's pretty much dead center of all the best riding in NC
You are sooooo right.The distance and time is insane. I tried to do the BRP from there to Shenandoah. Horrible idea. Rode all day and into the night and only got to Asheville. Road from there to Hampton Roads, VA. 6 hours. At least that's what I remember, it was 2010'ish. I've been since then, but I take the most direct route now. Glad you two are out riding. Stay safe.
Need to put that Goldwing in Sport mode and it will completely change the way the bike performs,shifts and acts. Trust me, Touring mode is for crushing highway miles on the flat straight roads.
My hometown, glad you enjoyed it
You were literally in my back yard! Wish I could've got to meet you and Jordan!
I live within 30mins to Tazewell and the Back of the Dragon. I guess we take it for granted since we see the views daily. I have to agree the Appalachian Mountains are some of the most beautiful. Be safe out there.
I had a ctx700 DCT, and then I've updated to the rebel 1100 DCT.
Living in Colorado, we have a lot of roads like this. it does take some getting used to, regardless of the clutch/lack thereof!
One year we hosted a Distinguished Gengtleman's ride that was a fairly easy ride through town to Red Rocks, which is gorgeous and not very fast. We were chided for it 'being too technical', even though we do it with a lot of 50cc scooters too.
So its all what you're used to!
the goldwing is my dream tourer. Test rode the 2018 when they came out, and I love them.
Enjoyed the video, I was just down there in March.
I ride a 2022 DCT exactly like the one your riding and that bike can be serious hustled in tour and in sport mode. This was my first DCT bike but i took to it very easily. You just need to get used to it a bit more. Put it in sport mode and then use your shifters. You'll get more engine braking when its in sport mode but if you shift it too and get serious with it its unbelivably fast and nimble it really likes you to show it whos boss. I've contemplated selling mine as i just riding it through twistys too fast. I'm gonna lose my licence at this rate.
To mention the scenery, it reminds me of down home around our mountain in WV. In Corely, Braxton County, it was known as Cogar Mtn for some 300 years. Take me home, down country roads!
That’s near where a grew up lol! It’s ca taw ba also little Switzerland is up there which is crazy riding still slow but nice! Try to enjoy all those amazing experiences and thanks for taking us along. Drop a gear and disappear🙏🏻
Long time ago, had 3 bikes , one solo rider, 2 with 2up, ride South on 16 from central WV to Hungry Mother. We all heard the back of the Dragon was a challenge. We still laugh about that. From our area, it was just about the same as riding around close to home. All manual tranneys. The solo rider on a twinkey stayed in 3rd gear most of the way. Sporty couple said they stayed mostly in 4th gear. Mine------well, I kinda wished I had an auto transmission. Did lots of shifting from 2nd-3rd -4th & back. Nice video you made. Thanks. I myself am just happy I rode that trail before it got popular.
You are 100% correct about Nav in cars and bikes, this is why I love that I can use an adapter on my Indian and have Android Auto, the new Harleys do it as well. It's your actual Google Maps, but on the Nav screen! Also, you can precache your maps so that you don't lose nav when you lose data.
The goldwing has Apple Car Play & Android Auto as well.. FYI
Navigate old school style, read paper maps and street signs.
When the Navi roads go from white to a lighter shade of white.. That means gravel road and the mailman hauling a$$ the other way. LOL. Need a good dual tire.
@@badchad911 a whiter shade of pale….procol harem, great tune.
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The Indian Roadmaster, and Persuit have Ride Command Navigation, and it is awesome.
I don't understand why you would need clutch control or friction zone going those speeds... you should only use the clutch to shift up and down... which you can still do on the DCT just fine... I don't know what mode you had that in, but you should be able to set it to have great engine braking and it takes twisties really good in manual mode with you shifting exactly like you'd do with a manual clutch. I haven't done roads like that on a Goldwing DCT, but a Rebel DCT, and maybe the size/weight makes a big difference, but at least on the Rebel, the DCT makes roads like that much easier if you use it right.
That is the first Goldwing I really like the looks of. 😍
As a local, we call the Tiki Bar, "The Bates Motel." But, best ribs around! Hands down!
Keep this road in your memory file....Brushy Mountain Rd. Very similar to Deals Gap. Also Hwy 268. Scenic Byway. Why in the area, Dooley's Restaurant. Awesome food. All were fairly close to you.
The area of Wilkesboro and Statesville are famous for the Tom Dooley song. His real name was Tom Dula.
Absolutely love this video. Makes me want to come visit this part of your beautiful country. I see how DCT wo😂uld be great on a bike like the Wing, I had an Africa Twin with DCT and honestly regreated it and swapped the bike quickly for a traditional transmission bike. But on this It makes alot of sense. Having said that I won't ever buy a DCT type bike again. Manual is just alot more immersive and a real experience on a motorcycle for me.
Coming out of Marion as you did, your best overlook is right near the beginning above Hungry Mother State Park. The others as you mentioned are on blind curves, until you get near the kudzu corner near the end where there are a couple. My first trip on it was wet, thankfully there was almost no traffic (I pulled into one of those blind curve overlooks, took a phot and then turned around and saw the truly iconic rock wall opposite, which makes a great photo backdrop, and if you place it right, you get two or three curves in the photo too). Somewhat less challenging a ride going south as you don't have the rock walls on the inside. Last trip I even rode it at dawn a couple times to fit in a lot of other riding too, great photot spot at Hungry Mother overlook with fog in the valleys (only saw one deer too).
Back of the Dragon is my backyard. I'm about 15 miles from the south end. When I leave the driveway, I can go either direction and have a great ride. Gotta love southwest VA
Hell yes. Ride safe.
Agreed about the bars not being rounded, but there are aftermarket mounts that attach using the mounting bolts for the controls on both sides. I absolutely agree with you about the DCT limitations, regardless of what mode its in. I prefer the control of a manual transmission over the DCT.
I am doing this in 3 weeks great video
In my back yard ,Denver area .
Always riding to the mountains from here.
2018 and newer Gold Wings should have Car Play on them. I do think you have to sync your headset to the bike instead of your phone to get it to work. This would at least present your map of choice to you on the factory dash.
Yes you can use car play. No need to have your phone on the bars.
LOL, Ram mount makes a mount for the phone that uses the screws for the master cylinder. We have been with these Goldwings since 1975 so you gotta know that we have developed ways to mount our stuff. You being a temp user would not look up that kind of thing. Be safe, have fun. On the Back of the Dragon you will see where that bike really shines. I am with you no automatic for me. I dont ride a bike for that, I love shifting.
Use the paddle to downshift and use the engine breaking when riding hard in the mountains. Took me a while to learn the DCT. It is wonderful on a trip and not just on the interstate. Took several trips in the mountains to figure it out. I enjoy the DCT much more than my Ultra CVO in the hills.
The shifter works exactly the same way as modern sports cars ( or even F1 racers ). Just needs getting used to. Getting used to having no clutch might take sometime but once you get the hang of it, the clutch will be history.
That bike is so beautiful Jess! You look so beautiful on it too 🥰🥰🥰ride safe and Happy Trails 🙏🥰 shout out to Jordan, you guys Rock!
Around Greenville SC is nice Cherokee scenic byway, from there you can do Helen GA and Maggie valley is really close, in the other direction myrtle beach, Murrells inlet and the coast three hours in the other direction. Plus 1.5 hours from Asheville
Go to Maggie Valley...wheels through time is amazing.
Ridden those roads for 2 years now on a DCT.... When you get to the Twisties, gotta throw it in sport mode.... shifts, accelerates and decelerates much better. I enjoy it much better than I did in my road glide ultra
I've ridden the Dragon's Tail 3 times, 6 times if you count return trips, on my vacations from Raleigh, NC to Pidgeon Forge, TN., and back. Id say that Western NC, Eastern TN, West VA., and North West Georgia, is (to me) the most beautiful part of the country to experience on a bike. I live in the Rockies now, and it's majestic here as well, but different. What I miss is that dank musky air, and the different smells along the way. From kudzu in bloom, to honeysuckle, sweet betsy, magnolia, and so many more native species of aromatic plants, trees, vines, that are everywhere. Then there's the smell of burning tree stumps, lol...miss it all.
You explained my love for the Appalachia’s perfectly!!
I like watching your videos on Sunday. Especially now that you're riding a Goldwing. In sport mode that thing is a beast.❤
was there last year, heading back this June on the way down to the Tail. I stay in Pigeon Forge
Use the trigger shifter buttons to downshift when IN automatic mode (don’t go to manual mode). You won’t wish you were on a manual bike. It will also give you the engine braking you want.
Also, the Goldwing has lots of aftermarket accessories for cameras.
4:50 yup, I live just outside Asheville NC, the twistys are about 5 minutes in any direction!!!
Agree with the comment about it looking like Scotland. That's where I'm from and I was thinking that right before you said it. pretty much all country roads here are likes that, it's all twisties with very few straight sections
Next time you're in the area do the Skyline Dr from Front Royal VA to Aston VA, 105 miles of beautiful mountain roads with lots of lookout pull offs and stunning scenery. It finishes where the BRP starts, but if you want a bite to eat pop into Waynesboro and visit The River Burger Restaurant,, great little stop and amazing burgers... oh and got a full liquor bar ;)
Also try the 33 in WV amazing road, considered by many to be the best and most demanding in the state,
While in the ICU in december doc told me to cut down on my coffee because it made my heart rate rise to much. Now it's 2 scoops not 3. Glad I was born n raised in beautiful NC.
Literally Denver is like 20 min from my house. Great roads all in this area
As for the handlebars, I use a RAM Mount on the left and right sides of the hand controls with a tubular bar between. Works great.
Nice video
NC is a fantastic place to ride.
Near Denver on Hwy 150 go towards Mooresville, NC.
There you will find dozens of eating establishments to fill your appetite.
The place you are at is called Catawba after the Catawba Indians near the Catawba River.
I am an hour from that town.
Just for info, the self cancelling indicators are selectable in the vehicle settings menu on that Goldwing. I just add hand signals when there might be doubt about my intentions.
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20:20 I have the same problem with the handle bars on my 2010 Goldwing….I put a Ram mount on each side of the bars, near the grips, works well for the phone, and a camera facing me.
Cata-waba lol. I’m going to start calling it that instead of Ca-tah-ba
That’s awesome. So glad you guys were down here. I’m only about 30 minutes from where you were.
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If you come back to NC and want to do some mountain riding, I usually stay in Maggie Valley, NC. Not too far from 40, but also in the mountains, most riding is within an hour or so. If you want to explore more near the Back of the Dragon, I stay in or near Shady Valley, TN (home of the Snake, 489 turns in 12 miles). There is also a map that outlines all the great routes in the Appalachian Mountains. Highly recommend getting one.
A lot of people don’t like the DCT , mainly they do t know how to use it, you can ride as hard or casually as you like it will change gear better than you ever will or could when going down hill and are in drive just flick it down the gears with thumb paddle and make sure you have the throttle rolled off completely, I ride over the passes in New Zealand with very steep grades and the bike is rock solid. Most people who comment on DCT just aren’t riding it correctly, the computer is far superior to your changing and better for the motor.
While in Denver you should have rode up to Lake Lure.. it would have been about an hour and a half away 😊
As usual I enjoyed the video !!! I own a 2021 DCT and it just takes a little getting used to. I absolutely love it !!! By comparison, my 2003 Deuce is a completely different riding experience !!! Keep up the great videos !!!!
Welcome to my home state of NC. Perfect for riding! Enjoy the weather and beautiful scenery.
I was on US 250 N from Virginia through West Virginia. It is a SUPER road through Washington-Jefferson National Forest and Monongahela National Forest. You have to ride it sometime. Probably 100 miles of HAIRPINS.
Absolutely loved this video ! Thanks for sharing your rides. Glad you are getting to spend some time with Jordan and taking some rides together , the shots with the Beemer and the Goldwing together were great and kinda dramatized the differences between the two bikes . Back of the dragon was cool , glad you got to do that , I was wondering how that DCT was gonna do on a road like that . Does the Goldwing almost feel automotive to you ? My 2017 Goldwing does everything very well and it fits me , sometimes it feels automotive to me but its such a great bike . Thanks for what you do !
Eye of the Dragon in KY is a good ride as well..
You’re not really far out talking about comparing it to the Scottish Highlands since the Appalachians and the Highlands are apart of the same ancient mountain range. As someone who lives in western Maryland in close proximity to the Appalachian range, I have to agree, they are absolutely stunning and they never get old. If you’re ever looking for something a bit different but also similar to the Blue Ridge Parkway, you should ride the BRP all the way north to where it ends at Afton Mountain in Virginia. From there, Skyline Drive starts and goes through the Shenandoah National Forest. I think it’s around 100 miles hopping from mountain to mountain along the ridges to Front Royal, Virginia. Tons of overlooks and pull offs!
Pigeon Forge Tn. great base camp for great rides.
What, its only 9:30 in the morning and you did not start drinking yet? You are slacking off young lady! Glad you are having fun with the GoldWing.
I live in West Virginia. 39,000 miles of road with three strait stretches. I personally never use GPS or listen to anything but the wind in my face.
You can get a ram mount that screws into your front brake reservoir for your phone. Just a thought.
I’ve ridden the “Back of the Dragon” (VA-16) four times, and love it! I prefer taking it north to south. Best rides were a few years ago before it became so popular and widely known! Gotta be careful as it’s easy to build up speed and suddenly find your self in a couple really tight turns! Great ride!
You can get a ram ball mount to use for a phone mount. I’ve done it and it will place your phone at the position you want. If you have the DCT the left side will be your phone side.
Goldstrike makes a great phone mount for the current Goldwing. I use a Ram ball mount that mounts to the front brake reservoir lid. Works perfectly.
I've done that ride three times but all before the statue and food place. One year the road was in bad shape the other two the road was good but there was a flock of turkeys in the middle of one corner. Still nice though, I do like a technical ride.
As you started down the Back of the Dragon you passed a dam and asked what it was, that is part of what the signs clamed as Virginias first State park Hungry Mother State park.
Another road trip to be added to my 'ToDo' List, Thanks!
Love this girl.
Just wanted to say rode the pan America from HD I need that bike for my full-time bike I love it thinking of getting rid of my goldwing
That’s strange how everything shuts down on Tues. in that area. Stopped I’m Maggie Valley on a Tuesday and one restaurant was open.
Did the tail, never been to the back. Definitely a checkmark. But not a steady Freddy
18:02 too bad about not getting the T shirt at Deals’s Gap, there are a couple of stores at the other end, in TN, but they aren’t well known…..
Was just there in April for sure a goldwing and those tight turns are not as much fun because of the weight of that bike. And the roads could be a little better for sure… imagine if they would pave the road again :)
I know you back in Ohio now but you should have ridden from Denver N.C to mount airy it a good ride and a great little town
Are you back in Ohio would like to go riding sometime with you and your husband I’m wanting to plan a big ride this summer got a decent bit of people wanting to do the same and I love the videos keep up the awesome work
Hey Jess
I enjoyed this video , I always take the 77 on my way down to Florida and often wondered what staying in Virginia and seeing the sites would be like , I’m curious what meal did Jordan get , it looked good but I couldn’t quite guess what kind of meat was in his sandwich/taco