My Metal Shaping/Fabrication Background Why ? TV Show? Classes? Sosa Metalworks? Shape-o-Matic?
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- Опубликовано: 19 мар 2023
- On this episode of Make It Kustom, I talk in detail of my past experiences that lead me on my journey of metal fabrication and metal shaping.
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Don't ever sell yourself short dude,you already have an incredible talent and vision of metal work. I always enjoy watching your videos .very impressed with your talents.keep up the great work.
Thanks Tony I appreciate it!
Tottaly agree, very tallented
30 years (or more) ago i wanted to take on metal work. For whatever reason i wandered away from that dream. So went on with pulling wrenches. Now i am taking on projects that are out of my comfort zone, and learning every day. You, Brent,Dan,Chad and others all have something to share with the world. My inspiration to take on things i would have never considered. Its late in life, but i want to leave a few things behind for my family and friends to remember me.
You are well on the path to be a legend. Onwards and upwards!
The ones you mentioned are very talented, each has a different approach and that is very helpful to those of us that are trying to learn something,
Bello’s Customs is another very talented one , he’s done some incredible chop tops.
The fact that your hands aren’t wrapped in band-aids is testament enough to your metal shaping skills.😊
Talent and humility are a rare combination and you have them both!
Well, thanks Bill that’s very kind!
Thanks Karl for being so open and honest about your career. I am 72 years old and I have learned so much from your videos. I started working on my own cars when I was in junior college. I have done many things in my life from electronics, to auto mechanics, to mortuary work, to retail sales. You are never too old to stop learning. Thanks and we'll see you next time.
You taking your time to share your life is so precious. This will inspire lots im SURE. REAL craftsmen SHARE their craft. Sad when skilled persons hide their skill. They in beginning learnt from someone ! RESPECT brother for sharing your journey & priceless skills & advice 🙏🍀🤝🤩 we need more of you in this world 🌎
You're very humble Karl. You are definitely a Craftsman Mate. Never underestimate yourself as you are up there with the best of them. Love ya work always. Billy J... Queensland, Australia.
Hi Billy J. , I agree wholeheartedly. He shares is passion and energies as it is contagious. A very inspirational young man., hey I’m 69 so he’s a young man. Townsville, OZ.
Thanks, Billy I’m definitely gaining experience! But I always believe that the best way to learn is to have the mindset of a student
@@MakeItKustom 68yo Karl. I can tell you now you never stop learning Mate. 🚗
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, Karl. Also, I appreciate that you give credit to those you have learned from as well.
I was smiling the entire video. I had asked you about 9 months ago if you planned on taking someone under your wing and teaching them the lost art of metal shaping. Your journey was almost a mirror of mine when I got into the industry in 1980! Here I am at almost 60 years old and seeing a younger generation like yourself going through the same learning process as I did makes it seem all hasn't changed but the years and the faces. I look at you and see a lot of me and my experiences nd can only hope the next generation after you will look at you and understand what it takes. I am having a hard time putting down in words what I'm feeling right now so I will just say....keep up the great work and great attitude! You are a rare individual!!
Sincerely,
Sean
Keepining it humble , nice ! Lots of folks are good and way to full of themselves, your awesome at what you do and are willing to share and help people get an understanding of how to get into this art and think outside the box , whithout spending a fortune on specialty tools . Thanks for all your videos and motivation along the way
You're a great inspiration and outstanding at teaching the art. Keep up your dreaming and I hope you continue to bring us along.
The collaboration with Brent ( Half-ass Kustom) was two worlds coming together, I continue to learn from you both.
Quick being so damn humble it pisses me off hahaha. Your wicked at what u do man. Side note, Indian Larry twisting that square bar is burned in my brain.
I also used to be intimidated by sheet metal work, I used to say ill do a chassis but not the body. Watching your channel and a few others have taught me a ton and I've progressed a great deal. I am working on rust repair on my 1936 ford and have done floors, sub rails, lower cowl and quarters. Big thanks for helping to expand my passion.
Thank you Karl for telling us your story, like most of us the biker show got a lot of people into metal working. I was around car's my whole life my Pop's and older brother are mechanics and my uncle's and aunties worked for GENRAL MOTORS COMPANY ,one of my uncle's built radiators had his own shop in his back yard. When I was in Jr high school I always wanted to be a welder. It wasn't until year's later in my early 30s I got into welding wishing I've done it right out of high school. I was doing body work right out of high school slinging mud. Some metal work but not forming metal. That didn't happen until I started welding. I got into taking a flare piece of sheet metal and making something out of it. I got deep into it then health issues stop me for many year's. I just got back into welding, but I had to learn every thing using my left hand instead of my right. Like learning how to ride a bike all over again. So folks if you get frustrated you can be patent and learn it by mistakes of anything you do weather working with metal or wood.
Hey Carl,
WOW !
You got really deep into many subjects in this video.
The "GET IT" is so cool when it happens. It can be life changing as well as being as simple as chewing gum.
The how and the why of doing something is "So" important to so much in life, Not just metal shaping.
You are a good teacher.
I am 74 years old, still playing with metal in many forms.
I love learning and often learn new things from watching your videos.
Thank you young Sir.
The story behind the man is always interesting... love your work and all your videos... Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰 😊
Karl, Thank you for this inspiring video! Keep sharing your journey! Your metal working skills are a true gift!
This is my favorite channel right now because I'm about to dive into this and it's so interesting and cool to me because what you can make is endless and requires patience and skill. If young guys don't get into this then custom cars and bikes will be a bunch of ebay parts bolted together with no craft involved. I wouldn't say customs cars are dead, but you just don't see them or this craftsmanship involved like it was in the 1950s. Which is another reason to do a build for yourself. Back then this was the only way, now things have changed that most parts don't require these methods unless you actually go this route. Keep it up man! 🤟
I am restoring my first car, a 1969 Camaro, and stumbled on your videos at the opportune time. I’ve been able to learn so much from your sheet metal and welding content. Thank you!
Love the history of where youve come from & what youve done.
Everyone has to start somewhere!.
Dude, this was great to watch. Always good to learn about how someone came up to the point they are at now.
What really stuck with me , is that metal shaping is progression and the more you do and learn the better you'll get.
It's sometimes tough and discouraging when you watch videos or follow these top guys ( like yourself) on IG and see the stuff that they knock out , then go into your own garage and complete mangle something that ends up in a scrap pile... But everyone started off somewhere with no experience and progressed to where they are now.
Hope to one day make it to a class , but these videos are inspiring. Keep up the great work.
For anybody wondering, the metal class at Sosa Metalworks is awesome. I learned so much from Cristian and Karl. It was also a lot of fun.
Thank you dude! I got interested in metal shaping when doing rust repair on my -59 VW Beetle, but it wasn't until I found your channel and some of your first videos that I realized that I could fix the crappy, ill-fitting aftermarket repair panels that were available on the market, I built an English wheel as a result of it as well 😀Anyway, just wanted to let you know that your videos are very inspiring and you make metal shaping attainable to a completely green person just starting out! Keep up the videos!
Extremely inspiring man, really!! I continue to consider you a mentor to me as much as I can get short of personal instruction. You're an extraordinary teacher, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that opinion.
Junk Yard Wars!! Loved that show, wished they’d bring it back!!
Young man, there is nothing arrogant in what you are saying in this video. I am 52 yrs. old and learning from you. Do not apologize the wealth of information your passing along is priceless. YOU GAVE ME BACK THE LOVE OF HOTRODS. THANK YOU
Thank You 😊
Thanks Eric!! 🙏
I loved the story time. listened to it all.
My man your skills are amazing you are crazy talented and a genuinely nice person .I know we can never stop learning but I’ve learned so much as a novice just from watching your channel thanks for that much appreciated 🙏👍
Amazing what you do with metal Karl! You really do motivate and inspire us guys who love cars & trucks!
I love when you bring up Biker Build Off because it had the same effect on me. Indian Larry was my favorite builder too, he was so authentic. It's crazy because I always wanted to work on hot rods, but 20 years after watching that show as a kid, I ended up working on motorcycles and now have a whole new appreciation for those builders and sometimes go back and watch those old episodes. I didn't know you worked on the Knuckle Dragger, I remember when it won Baddest Bagger in Sturgis, your journey is so cool.
Excellent vid. Very inspirational. Incentive building. The push I've needed. Thanks.
Your techniques for shaping metal without expensive tools are brilliant.
Like your talk , found it interesting to see or hear how you got to were your are at now !! A little video on how to set up the stump for simple shaping and hammers for some one to get their hand into medal shaping ,can be useful for working on old cars ETC ! You may have done video on hammers etc but a refresher would be good ! All the best
karl
This was a great video and fireside chat. Really nice to hear about your journey and how you got to where you are. Please do more of these. I have been onboard since near the beginning. Thanks for all your hard work and the in depth sharing of knowledge.
You are a huge inspiration to me!
I have begun the journey of metal shaping and sheet metal work thanks to watching your channel!
Love your channel. Sitting here in my Japhands zip Hoodie watching.😂
I totally enjoyed watching this. It's great to know your background how you got to where you are and your passion. Your a great teacher.
Always enjoy hearing this story!
As a former student I cannot recommend it enough! My biggest ah hah came with the mother tucker and the stump! Thanks for all the help!
Excellent! Thanks to the testimony Larry. It was awesome to work with you
You are already very good at what you do , you have the right attitude and passion for the trade .I admire you for wanting to get further and further with your skills and would like to congratulate you for a well spoken segment , I think you will go a long way from here . Cheers from Australia
Peter T.
Karl
Have you heard the phrase that "A person has wisdom far beyond their years" , or being "An Old Soul in a young person's body".
Man, you have such a passion, and a way it is infectious/contagious.
Your approach and attitude of taking it all in and throwing away what you dont want is rare in a person so young.
To be able to accept constructive Criticism, and to understand there is 100 ways to kill a cat - or do a similar task at any age, is a blessing and a traint many young people should consider adopting, instead of rebelling.
The eagerness to learn and continue to learn , is why we as subscribers , follow you through your journey.
Your tips and tricks and the way you explain things is for me at least a series of light bulb moments. I think I get it.
I just need to go and play. and find some body hammers and a get a sand bag and make my stump with the dish and beat up some bowls.
Even I at my age ( 60 in a few Weeks) , am eager to learn and try my hand at many of the things your have so generously shared.
From making simple tools like the Dimple Die - the Sheet metal Hole punch and the post dollies, the slapper, the list goes on and on.
I have always played with cars and currently crew on a race team, ( an old 1972 HQ Holden) and I have always wanted to make a Rat Rod from an old car or truck body and to be able to both repair and make panels and customs panels.
Between yourself, Wray Schelin, Ron Corvel, Chad Hilts, Tony from Fitzees, Brent from Halfass Kustoms, Jordan from Benett's Customs, Peter Tomasini, Div from Rat rods of Africa, Bellos Customs and many more. I can watch and learn for hours , and I have.
A spark has started a small fire within and my journey now begins thanks to yourself and others.
I am learning practicing and teaching myself to weld. Shielded arc MMA and Gasless Mig( Flux Core) welding and hope to progress to a Tig, and Gas Mig soon.
I hope to be able to start my Rat Rod project once I return from a holiday (Late May through July) but wont get to attend your Sydney event , such a shame.
As I am in Melbourne and money already spent for the vacation.
What you said about sharing the skills to keep the craft alive is so true.
I say this on behalf of myself and I am sure many more, - we truly appreciate your sharing your skill.
May you continue to grow and aim to reach that level of Grand Master of the craft in metal shaping, the ever elusive prize.
There is no such thing as perfection only the path to higher learning and increased skill.
Keep punching upwards.
Sincerely
Michael from Melbourne Aus.
Karl comin in with the humbleness again.
Thanks for the wisdom Karl.
determination, dedication and honesty that is what it takes, Karl keep up the great work.
Just discovered your channel, im in awe. The clean and controlled way you fabricate is a pleasure to see. I know not everything is perfect first time, but what is in your minds eye and how you make it happen is great to watch.
Glad to see you are coming down under, hopefully I can make it to the Melbourne venue.
Thanks Karl, you have helped me a lot over the last couple years. Good on ya.
Very inspirational story. Like you, I was a fan of all the motorcycle shows. My favorite builder was Indian Larry and I was devastated to hear of his passing. I only started messing around with metal fabrication when I retired 7 years ago. It's not until I ran into the RUclips channels like yours, Brent, Chad, Jordan and Tony's that I started to develop some skills to accomplish what I was trying to build. Keep up the great content.
Thanks Tim. He’s a legend that will never fade
Love your story....
Thanks for sharing
Keep up your videos
Always appreciate story time.
Thanks for the lessons in metal shaping. Always look forward to what you have to teach.
Hope to catch a class in the future.
Great video mate. I'm 44 and never done any metal shaping but I'm giving it a go soon and watch heaps of tour videos. Thanks. I see you're coming to Australia which is awesome.
Like the story's can't wait to see what you do next,
Awesome video. It was great to hear a little more of your background and passion for metal working. As talented as you are it's refreshing how humble you are. Thanks for sharing!
Great story
Love knowing the individual background stories on how one gets to where they are today
Thx for sharing
Love your work
You definitely are an accomplished metal worker.
You read “metal” and it shows
Thanks, I appreciate all that you share.
Dude, you're the only other person besides myself that I've heard talk about junkyard wars! That show influenced me enough to turn down going to a big10 college and "follow my heart" instead. Which was basically just knowing a wasn't day dreaming about college, I was day dreaming about building cars, and making something from nothing. 17 years later, I've reached master certification with mercedes benz but have expanded my knowledge base to bmw and most other euro brands. Now, I'm teaching myself to weld and fabricate at a hobby level. But your videos have helped me learn immensely!
Great listening to your anecdotes regards your metal shaping/forming career Karl.
Watching you and others on RUclips has enabled me to tackle stuff I would never have dreamed of doing a few years ago… thanks for sharing and being more than just a bit of an inspiration…
Hey Karl. Thanks heaps for posting this video, I enjoyed every bit of it. Thanks also for everything that you have done for the metal/fabrication/auto enthusiasts scene. We learn so much from you including enthusiasm and humility! Cheers, Steve in New Zealand
Inspiring. Thanks. PS Junkyard Wars was my favorite program and I still miss it.
Aussie classes all sold out Karl, will have to catch you at the hotrod and custom show in Sydney.
Braddah Karl, thanks for sharing. Your stories and experiences is very interesting and inspiring. While I haven’t really done metal shaping your thought process and stories allow me to relate it in what I’m doing, more 2D art welding fab. Mahalo and keep it it up! Aloha🤙🏼
Always love your videos. Great work
I loved this video. It really made me see were your coming from. I can see that in a sort time you have improved tremendously. You have inspired me so much. I’m in the process of building a custom car and you have given me the energy and desire to make it my own. What I mean is I am going to do things to this car that I haven’t seen done before. Thanks for the inspiration you give me.
Karl, I was at the September 2022 course and for me it was an experience of a lifetime. You, Christian, and the rest of the Sosa crew were amazing and dedicated to helping each one of us succeed in learning these fundamentals.
It helped me get over the fear of taking on projects that before the class I thought were impossible.
If anyone else reading this is thinking of going and is on the fence, just go. Sleep in the shop,
The loft is perfect to crash in for a few days.
Also, my offer still stands. Anytime you wanna come out to Hawaii, let me know. We’ll surf, spearfish and work on the Ranchero.
I really like your channel!! I learn a lot from you, I've also learned a lot from Lazze Jansson in CA and have taken his class. Have you heard of him? He inspired me to make hard-to-find car parts and sell them, almost 4000 parts sold to date, I have the blanks laser cut and then form by hand without a beater bag (that's what Lazze specializes in, shaping without beating the crap out of a piece of metal, only to have to straighten out the dents and so on). Anyway, please keep the videos coming, you're honest and doing a great job!!
The evolution is familiar. I really enjoyed my time with a really nice snd talented guy named Evan Wilcox. So many details are not written down.
Currently trying to start my own fabrication shop. This is very inspirational and came to me at the perfect time. Thanks!
I remember seeing that bike in person at 75th Sturgis rally I work for a small custom shop and we had a few bikes in shows .one of them made it into a magazine but I remember seeing that bike and just being blown away it was by far the best big wheel bager out their man I gave up on the motorcycle shop shortly after that but I really find inspiration in your Chanel and its helped me during some really low points thank you and keep doing you it's assume
Karl you have some amazing vision 💯🔥your tube is always a blast to watch!!!
I grew up in Mesa, so well understand the heat issues! But couldn’t think about leaving, cuz it was “ normal “, now on the border south of Montreal I know the difference. Learned to weld at my first job in a used car lot at 13 on a AC only Lincoln Buzz Box. Hundred dollars and you got a hood thrown in. Never understood the shrinking and stretching, lost art and all that magic was the feeling. At 71 I wish I had the time to come and play with you guys but she wouldn’t understand. I commend your ethics and versatility in the endeavors that you have chosen. Can’t understand the lowrider thing but admire the mechanics involved. I’ll keep visiting you and learning just in case a wild hair sticks it’s self in my rectum….maybe a tank for my BMW is in the future???😊
Karl - Great video! I’m one of the old dudes just getting into metal shaping and all you really talented young bucks are a real inspiration- keep the great content coming. Also like your recent power hammer vid.
I would like to see more videos of you building things .
Someday I'll make it to a class, but im gonna have to sleep in the shop 😅
Thank you for sharing.
I respect greatly how you compare to people who are masters of their skill.
When asked about my ability to do something I've always compared myself to somebody who is a master. Problem is it sounds like I'm/you are selling your talents short and some hack will think they are better because they will compare themselves to just local talent who are hacks too.
Thank you for all your videos and showing the process of how you are figuring what you think you need to do next in making two items match up.
Thanks for sharing. I checked Biker Battleground Phoenix, it doesn't give a good image of the participants on the show. Impressed to see what you've been through to be the Karl Fisher of today.
OCC , Indian Larry, Jessy James, Yes Very Talented people with awesome visions ! But you have very similar visions and amazing skills and talent! You will be the best you! And will have a following as amazing as the skills you have !
Keep up the amazing videos! You have an amazing talent !
I enjoy your stories a lot
I’ve been at metal shaping for about three years .I’m a old, retired auto tech teacher .when I start out, I started watching RUclips, and had a harbor, freight English wheel and shrinker stretcher, and after watching lazzy videos, I found that out why the harbor freight English wheel wasn’t the best of choices so I added 350 pounds of extra metal to the wheel made it rigid and now it works. I then started watching Ray Shalene from pro shaper and most of what I learned was from watching videos and screwing up new sheet metal. I learn more about what not to do then what to do The biggest thing I learned that made it all come together was Watching Ray Shalene, pro shaper videos when he explained area and arrangement .Then things started making sense. He does a video where he rolls a fender shape to get the area he needs. He calls it area and arrangement. He then rearrange that fender shape into different shapes And then rearranged it back to fender shape because he had the area there that made it all makes sense to me> I like your videos because you have interesting projects and do a good job explaining what you’re all by hand doing. I thought about videos but like anything it’s a lot more work than people realize keep up the good work.
if you have an open mind go for it even if you mess it up keep going it gets better and you,v expanded mind to go on and do more thank you for all your tip,s on things love it 😎🤘
Cool education you've amassed so far. I'm down for the fireside chats deep. Craftsmanship in any discipline is facinating. Metal manipulation from blacksmithing, silversmith, knives, casting, have been on my hobby and study plate for years. You can never master all, but it's easier when it's so rewarding to add new disciplines to the toolbag. ✌ 😃
this guy inspires me
Good stuff Karl.👍👍❤
In the UK we call ourselves panel beaters🤣😂 well said Karl 💚🇬🇧🌱 love your content nice to see you're keeping the trade alive & better still, you inspire others...
Nice story on your background ...
and I think most people who get ahead are the ones who put in those 60hr weeks to better themselves ... always helps to do it before 30 though when the body n mind can all be still moulded 😄 ...
PS would be good to see here in Sydney if I get the chance 👍 take care
Great life stories ❤
Awesome content 👏
I could only wish I had your vision early on in my youth. If I could reset my life I would definitely take a road more like your life experiences. In my time we didn’t have the social platform we have today so I was clueless in my youth. I did take a basic and advanced metals class in high school. It taught me some basics like stick welding, oxy and lathe turning. I’m starting way late in life. I do enjoy what I tinker with.
I would like it if you could do a video on a compound panel that is a fender well lip ( 3/8” bead roll one side) and flow from that into a section of curved panel. The bead rolled looking section bends into the wheel well opening then out to the fender surface with some crown to it sloping down the fender. I hope you can visualize my interpretation. Great back story by the way. Thanks for taking the time! I just found the video with the class offering. It’s definitely one I would like to take. It just so happens to be our first travel baseball(11u) kids tournament . Like everything else in my life, I am on the back burner for the kids. It’s all about timing 😉
Great video thanks for aharing
Love to attend your guys class. Gene Winfield is doing his the same weekend. Would love to learn from him too.
Your work is on a whole different level, its amazing. I just bought myself a tig welder after only ever owning an old fluxcore machine and want to broaden my horizons with stainless exhaust work but learning more on actual metal fab has always been a dream but seems unachievable because of how expensive tooling is
Mon you can make a lot of your own tool's, if you watch some of Gene Winfield video's he made most of his tool's. You just collect them over time. Find them through garage sales, flea markets, adds, face book market place, shop's that are going out of business. You be surprised some people scrap there heavy tool's out. Some older folks that don't use there tool's are willing to pass them on to younger generation that will put them to good use.
The law swap meet I went to this guy gave me and my nephew a box full of tool's like $200.00 worth of tool's it was a good thing I had my red flyers wagon because it was way to heavy to carry out of the swap meet area. I gave all the tool's to my nephew, I pulled out some metal working tool's because I knew he wouldn't use them. He got him a starter tool's to fill his tool box. So yeah keep your eyes open and ears to the ground when collecting tool's over time before you know it you'll have a shop full of tool's where you'll run out of space to keep them all.
@@snoopu2601 yeah ive acquired a lot of smaller tools but i guess im talking money makin machines like mandrel bender, a big brake, rollers, english wheels etc. That kind of stuff. But thanks for the input i never really think to stop at garage sales.
@@tommys2979 good luck on your adventure, I hear yeah. You never know something might pop up when you least expect it.
@@snoopu2601 thanks! I appreciate the positivity
Gene Windfield has a class coming up... It would be awesome to go to that!
🤘🏻😎👍🏻
Gene Winfield has a metal shaping class that he is teaching around April 1st and second. Ian Roselle mentioned it on his channel. Gene is 95 and a Godfather of customs. I wish I could make it. Just an FYI for anyone out there interested. Sounds like it might be the same show that is being talked about in this video?
I see what you did there ...
Autumn (March - May)
Autumn is the mildest time of year in Sydney when the humidity drops and average temperatures fall between 14.6 - 22.2°C (58.3 - 72°F).
I really enjoy your channel and have started to follow Nick at Invision Prototypes (awesome) as well as Dan,Brent and of course Chad .
We appreciate you. Thank you
Thank you for all of your content Karl. My 31 sedan has a botched chop and they got grinder-happy on the outer curves of the door window openings. It’s kind of a double contour. Can you show us how to shape a patch for that? I’d like to fix it and not just buy parts. Thank you for this amazing channel! Kyle.
This will be cool////thank you 💣
Karl, power hammers are cool but Wray Schelin's - Proshaper - "the gathering " tool has is just as awesome to. I've got one here and its a treat to use. Gathers metal like a bitch to!!!
Oh yer, my power hammer I'm building is sort of like the Shape-o-matic but I'm designing a variable rate crank for it. Shame your coming up to Brisbane when down here I'd show you.
Oh when and if I can get one of these classes I'd love to make a old German style Helmut.
Yeah, that’s another reason why I want to go meet him and take his classes just to see the way his mind works with tooling
Inspiring video, I'm in under my Gov't name. I've been wanting to go but thought I would wait until I had a specific project in mind. That's nonsense- I want the skills for the joy of learning and doing.
Awesome! Should be a great time
Junkyard wars was the best!
We had "Scrap heap challenge" in the UK & it was a great show I'll look up the US version right now! 💚🇬🇧🌱
i went aroun to old guys yards sales looking for old hammers but i started in the 80s and there was nothing were i lived in the 90s i foundd some books about choping tops and stuff but i ha to teach my self i not as good as you are probly but i dont have any were close the tools you do but i lost my health 10years ago i 55 and cant hardly do it but in the summer i out there working on progecks and shaping stuff i pick up so cool tips just form watching you anddd others there all ways more than one way to do things its cool youi had opertunitys yoiu did self learned my car work weilding an mettle shaping so cool to take flat pice of still and turn it in to somthing
Loved the junkyard wars series.