So nice to see someone actually explain, and somewhat defend mig welding sheet. So many people get hung up and don't even try to learn because for the last 20 years Discovery Channel, and to a greater extent Instagram in the last 10, has shoved tig welding snobs so far into your brain that people of a more modest skill set think they can't possibly achieve a good outcome without a $7000 machine and a 5yr apprenticeship. Kudos to you, Mr. Fisher.
I was happy to hear you adopt my "bondo worms" description. Great video....a tool that you should have and would love is a Roper Whitney Jr. hand punch. You could punch all those plug weld holes instead of drilling them...much faster and cleaner...no deburring.
Oddly enough I found TIG to be easy to learn because I could already fillet-braze, the technique is nearly identical. My attempts at MIG have been disasterous, but I will continue trying.
Thanks a lot Justin! Yeah I think that for a lot of people getting into the hobby and Meg welder is just a better investment and a more likely tool to start with. Although cheap tigs can be found now There’s a time in a place for all tools. Cheers Justin!
As an autobody painter I want to add it's VERY important to wipe or sand All marker ink off before priming. The ink has a nasty habit of bleeding through the finished paint.. AMAZING work!! 🙂👍👍
If Fitzee likes it enough to praise it, there must be some good points and merit to it. Cheers, to the both of you for your tutorials. I'm just a hobbyist but I've done this sorta thing for years and I'm always ready to learn from other peoples' work. My poor old Snap-On (badge only, someone else made it) mig welder is battered and worn but it still works and I'll use it til it doesn't then I'll fix it and put it back to work again. Too many projects to do that need a mig welder.
I like that in this episode, you used methods of shaping the patch panels that are more accessible to most of us watching who probably don't have all the fancy benders and other tools. Gives us more options if we decide to fix our own old cars ...
I agree up to the English wheel. I've been doing this stuff for a while and don't have one ( yet ). My current English wheel is scrap black pipe in a vise. 😂
The rust prevention techniques that you explained from 20:08 to 22:08 are completely new to me. I had no idea these products or processes existed. So thanks! I know new stuff now! ETA: also the series of spot welds with a blower solved a problem I’ve been trying to figure out for months. Super helpful, really appreciate it.
POR 15 - used to be called Metal ready. It's Phosphoric acid and zinc. The acid reacts with the rust by turnin the rust into iron salts, like Iron Nitrate, Sulphate and Chloride. These dissolve in water, so can be washed away. The zinc bonds to the bare steel, and that's the powdery substance on the steel you see after you've washed it down.
I've used Ospho since the early 90s when my Father found out about it. Clean all oil and grease, it's water thin so can be applied however and it will kill rust and keep good metal sealed from rust. Yes u can buy cheaper phosphoric acid from Home Depo but it is not the same. Ospho has some extenders, modifiers, wetting agents, etc. As long as u knock off the heavy scale, chunks etc whatever would fall off from a air hammer, u can just apply and forget. In bad areas that I can't get to easily I will use Muratic acid. I don't let it sit long, 5 or so min. then rinse with Baking soda and water, Dry with air. Apply Ospho. Clean door drains, seal up, use a brake line or hose and funnel and fill doors a few inches and let sit for a week and drain and save for next year. Gotta kill rust.
Where have you been, I'm79 and just seeing a true artist at work! You are known as "Michelangelo Karl" at our home! Your work is truly unbelievable! Thanks for showing us all how to do work with such great talent and patience!
I’d say what a waist of talent, except the unbelievable joy you must give to your customers. You are an extremely rare master craftsman of the highest order. We sure could have used you at spacex twenty years ago.
Great video! Us weekend warriors appreciate the time you put in to making these videos so we can learn. You're a great fabricator. Even Fitzee gives you mention in his videos. 😊 keep up the good work!
What an inspiration to the regular ol joe you are . Well done my friend. Beautiful work. I hope Bad Chad and Jolene reach out to your invitation. It was a nice jesture.
As always . so well done and so well explained. Even down to the conversion from 18G to the metric 1.2mm for us metric folk. so many out there just want to show us how good they are. You on the other hand show us how good we can all be with good instruction. I have been a fabricator and engineer for 40 years but not much on car body. the first big job I took on also took on a lot of bondo LOL. Since watching your stuff I have improved massively on car body to the point where I am now building what started out as a scrap 1935 master coupe. I have been following your lead all the way and I am more than happy with how its going,,, all thanks to you Sir. I cant thank you enough. By a mile the best instructional vids anywhere. I am now working on a complex grill from 316 polished. I just have the hood sides to do trying to come up with a good plan for venting the engine. just don't like the boring chopped louvers. wanting it to look in keeping with the 35 master coupe but more sexy. Any thoughts please sir. By the way the welded half tubes for the bonnet edge profiles worked like a charm using silicon bronze rods to keep the heat down. All the very best Phil UK
Karl, I enjoy everything you create. It’s extremely helpful for me when you use simple tools ( the stuff I have in my shop) you are a great teacher. I’m 65 and you can teach this old dog new tricks!
Super smart fabrication and repair. Todays lesson was absorbed in the the mind. The shrinking, stretching tool work wonders. really nice piece of tool to have in the workshop. Many thanks Karl.
Also, you can save a bit like me by buying a single shrinker/stretcher body with both dies. It’s a bit of a pain to switch back and forth (like when I over shrink) but it’ll get you by and allow you to buy more tools.
@@MakeItKustom why did you mark on your shrinker stretcher tool 18 gauge only ?? I know it might not do 16 gauge but it should do 20 or 22 gauge ?? working with the thinner gauge is a nightmare ..for welding Great Videos you do would love too see more hammer forming with the bucks ..
Wow! I just discovered your channel. Karl, your wife is so lucky to have a craftsman like you restore her '60 Cadillac. My favorite year! As meticulous as you are, I had to laugh at your finger smudge tracing of your templates. I can relate! Outstanding, instructional video! I hope by now the '60 Caddy is finished and your wife is taking you for a cruise with her!
Another great video. I'm a TIG guy probably because I grew up gas welding with a coat hanger. MIG and TIG didn't exist for the regular guy. I still use my MIG and stick welders for some situations. I keep seeing people say you need a gap to MIG. That seems counterintuitive to me. I think you disproved that idea. Thank you for your time.
I was about fifteen, had the seat rail of a Ducati needing repair, and was taught with coat hanger and oxyacetylene to weld. I've welded mig and tig most of my life, but never the sheet metal. High level of skill demonstrated here.
You’re most welcome man! It’s true it’s easier to get better penetration with a gap if the welder can’t do it. But I much prefer to be more precise with the cuts
sweet! little tip to make the gentle curve easier/quicker/smoother - make a lip on both sides and shrink them equally, then trim off the one you don't need
Wow, what a great video tutorial. Super informative, very thorough and very well explained. This was impressive and absolutely worth the watch for anybody wanting to learn how to do patches with a MIG welder.
Protip I'm getting old so I keep different color markers for different things and I never change it Red cut lines Blue bends Green txt I have ruined to many panels doing wrong operations
I noticed you did square inside corners on these patches. I find, even if I am super careful with heat, the square corners sort of bunch up. I usually put a radius on that cut so there is not hard corner stop. Good stuff, thoroughly enjoy your work!
*So on a left fender with lower trailing edge patch you would be radius'g the upper left corner of the patch? How far back do you typically go from the corner, do you taper the radius and in what order do you tack or bead the radius? Sorry for the questions, I want to try this and have a fender that is curved in a "squirrely" manner.*
@@1nvisible1 it’s sort of arbitrary. I make my patch panel purposely oversized. Then grab whatever is close by that is round (used up tape roll, rattle can whatever) trace that radius on the corner(s) and cut it out. Then trim the repair opening to fit the patch. Hope this helps.
I appreciate that you used simpler hand tools for the first panel and used shop equipment for the second panel. It demonstrates how to do it if you don't have or can't afford equipment, but also shows what kind of equipment to buy and how to use it if someone wants to make the investment.
Nice tutorial Karl. I'm a self taught amateur restorer and it makes me feel better that you use a lot of the techniques I've figured out myself. I've always used MIG on thin sheet as you demonstrated and I've got good results... and bad too! Theres still lots to learn so thanks for sharing!
I have been working in a motor vehicle workshop for about 34 years. I would say 70% engine repairs and 30% carrying out mig repairs, mainly for mot failures. I have learnt more about panel shaping in this video than all my years making panels. My welding is actually quite good, but I have always struggled to shape and bend my patches to fit as well as yours. Your grinding/ da work looks effortless Thank you so much for sharing, hopefully I will be able to improve through your videos ❤
Nice work Karl, very entertaining and educational. I've done quite a bit of sheet metal work myself (old Nissans kind of are my hobby, long live Japanese cars and the lack of rust prevention), but I wish I had seen this video before - learnt so much. Keep up the good work!
Great info and explanations ! I want to mention that instead of fiberglass filler over the weld area's you could instead use epoxy primer and then put your bondo filler over the epoxy. I only mention it because you had those panels very straight after you welded and I personally would not want to have the added build thickness of fiberglass fill on those repairs. I mean that as a compliment :).
I'm a structural welder, and saw what you did, and I think you have a good point with the epoxy primer. I've watched others do sheet metal work and seen the technique used, without the full clarity shown here. I too, was impressed with the accuracy of the sheet metal work that fit the pieces so perfectly. Some of the best work I've ever seen. It's good to see the young guy's moving in the same ways, directions of our own youth.
@@tonyunderwood9678 Funny thing, I'm sixty five, and got a friend almost ninety, I've known for two decades, who's taught me a lot. I hung out in machine and welding shops, behind the "old men" who were retired, but the "expert knowledge banks" in my own childhood. I believe this is the way of the world, all the way back.
Thank you very much! I really appreciate your feedback and absolutely we’ll go that route. After I hammered a little bit there really is not room for a decent layer of fibreglass reinforced filler as it’s not really needed. It’s good to know that Apoxsee primer is waterproof for that application
@@tonyunderwood9678 Yes and the young ppl need to be taught like we was, by respecting the old pros who have the knowledge and tips and tricks. I worked with a welder on pipeline. Others would bitch if they had to be his helper. I enjoyed it. He was salty but he knew his stuff. And as long as I asked b4 doing dumb stuff he'd show or explain it. Kids today just don't seem to have what we did. I think it's cause there's instant everything and they rather finger a fone than crack a book or ask ppl who have skills to help. Their anxiety gets the best of them. Seems like all have this issue. Idk what it is. Seems like last decade that made any sense was 90s. After that it went down hill fast. Maybe it's me. Maybe I'm that guy who now says Back in my day things was better. But compared to the 90s, it was. movies, music, autos, economy. Could buy a car for $250, fix a issue like this or bad wheel cylinder and have a decent car. Now u can't but a full set of brakes for any car for 250, or even 500.
Excellent video. I appreciate how you did one side using impromptu tools (bench for bending, etc.) then the other using the brake and English wheel. Helps for those without access to those tools.
I learned to weld structural steel fifty years ago, I've done a bit of sheet metal work, when I had to, but never was near as good as with heavy structural metal. I've learned a lot in the simple pattern design, the careful layout, line patterns, that are so useful in getting the metal to conform with intent. I have no intention of changing my trade, but it's enormously helpful to watch the techniques and skill in getting the sheetmetal to do as it's told. I've never had the time to watch the whole process as I have here. Watching the "shrinker" move the metal in the patch was enlightening, it was a beautiful job, pulling the piece exactly to shape. It's been fairly easy to see the shrinkage factor work into the panel shape issues, very nice job accounting for it all. Kind of incredible, the two panels turned out almost exactly the same.
I’m glad you enjoyed this video Jon! I too started in structural steel. There’s definitely a learning curve going to the thinner metal almost nothing applies from structural. And once I got a shrinker stretcher in the shop it really changed my life lol it’s one of the first tools I think people should buy when getting into Trade
This video saved me $1,200 by making my own replacement guard on my Case tractor! This includes the $100 I spent on sheet metal and 24 pack of refrigerator magnets! Thanks man!
I like your channel... You give info - explain it & show it... I started do Body Work in 1965... I was a "Flat Rate" body man... (You have no idea)... Most shops didn't have Frame machines... You put a car on Jack Stands, Chained it down as best you could, Got the torch with the biggest "Rose Bud" tip you had - Pushed the rails with a 10 ton ram and "Beat The F___ out it with a BFH.... Floor pans and other "Metal Forming" was done on anything "hard" old piece of steel - sidewalk curb and you heated it and beat it until it fit... The end result was nothing like what you do - NoBody even thought of welding up Slide Hammer holes... The key was "Fast" and Good enough - You didn't get paid for prefect (or Good)... we got from 6 to 9 dollars a flat-rate hour and I could turn 140 hours a week... (I Clipped Cars - with touch - a hammer and a hacksaw) - (Cut 2 cars in half to make 1) - I never had a "Come-Back" for quality in almost 40 years... I can't do much of what you do - But, back then, You would "Starve To Death" - Do what you do... One suggestion - Turn your music down - It seems to be louder now... Great Job ... I like to compare you & Fitzee - He dose beter work then I did - But he started in the same place (24 Grit Dic & a BFH)
I’m more of a collision repair guy, I would only do custom jobs for myself because it’s so much work. With that being said you’re a beast brother and I love guys that actually care about quality . You are no butcher
This guy can tell and show the DYI guy all day how to do this don’t get your feeling hurt if it does not come out the same his first parts did not also. But he’s what I call a Witch and works at stuff until late hours of the night to hone his craft eats breaths and sleeps this stuff . Can’t wait to wake up and hit it again. I like watching the videos and looking for these guys to work on my stuff as I work at my job and save money to pay them.
This is better teaching than anyone could get at college! I’m planning to fix floor patches to an old Suzuki car I bought a years ago. Watching this has encouraged me to get on with it. Thanks! 😊
All I can say is WOW. I have watched a lot of videos where people make their own repair panels, but, you are the best that I have seen. I will be watching more of yours for sure. This is a very good how to video.
It's kind of cool to see you next to the fender for scale and then to realize just how big that freaking fender is 😂😂 I'm really enjoying the caddy work! Can't wait to see that bad boy cruising down the road.
Hey Cobber, little tip with your roloc discs put a1mm×75mm cutting disc under the roloc when you twist your disc on. You'll get 3x more life out of your disc and more precise grid on you weld. Cheers have a good one, keep up the great content.
Anal about the marking process? Ha! Buddy your passion is surface mounted. I really enjoy watching you tediously give birth to your recreations/creations. I’m just learning how to weld and shape metals at home, with zero back ground in the industry. Turns out, I’m pretty good at it. Your knowledge has been priceless in “pretty good at it” for me. Thank you for sharing. Side note, I can’t walk away from it , if it’s not perfect or as perfect as I can make it…either. They got names for this but I think it’s just quality workmanship. 🤟💯 I dig the attention to detail. HAMMER AND DOLLY ON!😎 ima go make something, get my fix for the day🤣
Amazingly good video! Too often we see videos where folks skip over the details, leaving the viewer wondering "how" exactly did he do that? I'm self taught on my fabrication skills, seeing this guy I learn a lot more for sure. Thanks for the content Karl!
Excellent Vid. My father-in-law was a body man since he was 12 working in he’s dad’s shop in the 30’s. I have all is tools which I see you using in your shop. Reminds my of working with him. Love you explanations and teaching guides.
Try some hairspray on upper roller to hold the rubber band in place. Same thing I've used for grips on everything. This is PRIME craftsmanship! Nice work!
This is like secret panel beaters business. 🤠 Thanks so much for sharing. I have had an old body panel in my shed to practice on for about 10 years. My wife keeps wanting to chuck it out. Now I have some knowledge I might just dig it out and fix it. I’ll keep watching and going back through your older videos 🤠
I love your work. It is way more professional than many other "builders" nowadays. My dad was a perfectionist. He welded with Oxy Acet . There was no such thing as bondo in his day. His metal work was file finish perfect. He taught me many things in body repair that aren't practiced today. The spot welding method today really upsets me. Every so called customizer never shows the back side of the tack weld process. I can imagine it's not pretty and leaves a good surface for rust to set in. As you said. The old school would remove the bracing panel . Make the repair ( which would be smooth and true on both sides) then re-attach the bracing panel. True craftsmanship. I've watched my dad actually cut a hole in a car roof to access a repair then repair that hole . No filler at all. I like to emulate dads' methods and do it right. Another one of dads mates said " If you have to grind it. Your not a welder you're a boilermakers lackey." Weld an planish is slow but forever. Keep up your good work.
Just WOW! Those patches are truly artful. Impressed as always. Looking forward to getting the new member's promo code so I can make my students jealous with a new Make It Kustom T shirt.... Thx as always!
I'm a little late to the game, this is the first video that I have watched of you. You do one hell of a good job, I learned quite a bit. people need to understand this is why bodywork and fabrication cost so much. keep it up, I appreciate it. I’ll keep watching.
Hey mike and steve short but cool as allways. I take a teespoon full of a mix of honey curcuma and cayenpepper every morning. Me and my girl never bin sick sinds 2 whole years. Keep up the cool work man. See ya next week man
I have never air cooled sheet metal while welding . But I'm going to now ! Lol . At work we have a driveshaft department , and after they weld a shaft , they blow shop air pressure on the weld for 10 minutes while shaft turns slowly. A very good video here . Well spoken and well shown . I have to get the notion out of my head that I can run a bead on 20 gauge . Not happening. You just have to keep dotting .
That isn't a technique, that's pure talent 👌 I have tried and tried to get this right and still haven't quite gave up, you have it sorted. Watching you tack the second guard the care and accuracy involved is hard to replicate. Hopefully I can get there one day.
Great video, great info for the home builder or the "pro" who needs to learn how to do it right! I'm a 75 year old home builder that started with oxy acetylene for sheet metal and arc welding (stick) for structural.. Japhands knows what side of the bread the butter is on. There were very few excellent builders back in the day, like Valley Custom and the Ayala Brothers here in SoCal. There were also a lot of "famous" builders who were butchers. All you had to do was look behind a panel or under the car. My hat is off to these young guns like Japhands and Mike Bello who are just flat gettin' after it.
Back in the 60's I used a product that was a combination of ground up fiberglass, asbestos, and clay. Mixed with water, (heat dam). it was applied close to your weld bead, and It soaked up all the extra heat, And it really minimized. The warppage. We didn't have Mig it was oxy/acetylene. This stuff was really GREAT to use and you can reuse it over and over just by adding more water and mixing to a thick paste. Even though you can't use Asbestos anymore you can use clay, fiberglass powder, kitty litter, and mix it with water to a thick paste. I've made some and it does work. You really have some Great skills. Great Video, THANKS
Great video as always brother, turned out amazing 👍 just one problem and I’ll go ahead and say what everyone’s thinking…….we’re gonna need a little more footage of my girl Brenda!! I’m sure she’s got something that needs to be fixed 🤣
I love and watch one of your video's every day and then I jump in the barn and go to body work welding on my brothers 1929 Plymouth coupe. Call me odd or wrong or even dumb. but 40 % of my learning curve on welding is listening to the weld being applied. ....I was teaching a guy welding I got him all set uo I watched him with my own helmet and then so as not to get him flustered I told him I was going behind the barn to work and I would not come back until he was doing good.. 10 minutes later I yelled to him in the barn and said I see I'll be out here for a long long time. and he said no way you can tell I'm doing bad. And I even told him what his nasty weld looked like 100 feet away in the back yard. 5 minutes later I yelled WOW! you doing great welding but you missed the two seams with wavering...... Then I heard the crispy bacon frying in the pan I then came in and was now a first class B Plus welder and we were both so proud of his work....Hearing a weld tells it all. I've never heard your welding you fast forward it all.. Your spot tacks how long are holding the trigger? 1/10 of a second? 1 full second? Or a blister full spot tack? Please show 1 minute of so called boring scenes we have fast forward if bored. Don't get me wrong your a perfect GREAT teacher love the video's endlessly.
You help us in so many ways and provide many of us who are muddling away in our own shops with loads of inspiration . Thank you sir! Trashcan 🗑Approved
So nice to see someone actually explain, and somewhat defend mig welding sheet. So many people get hung up and don't even try to learn because for the last 20 years Discovery Channel, and to a greater extent Instagram in the last 10, has shoved tig welding snobs so far into your brain that people of a more modest skill set think they can't possibly achieve a good outcome without a $7000 machine and a 5yr apprenticeship. Kudos to you, Mr. Fisher.
I was happy to hear you adopt my "bondo worms" description. Great video....a tool that you should have and would love is a Roper Whitney Jr. hand punch. You could punch all those plug weld holes instead of drilling them...much faster and cleaner...no deburring.
$7000 ? you can get a suitable Tig for $500..
Oddly enough I found TIG to be easy to learn because I could already fillet-braze, the technique is nearly identical. My attempts at MIG have been disasterous, but I will continue trying.
Thanks a lot Justin! Yeah I think that for a lot of people getting into the hobby and Meg welder is just a better investment and a more likely tool to start with. Although cheap tigs can be found now There’s a time in a place for all tools. Cheers Justin!
Excellent video thanks for all the tips. Great young man doing something he loves.
As an autobody painter I want to add it's VERY important to wipe or sand All marker ink off before priming. The ink has a nasty habit of bleeding through the finished paint.. AMAZING work!! 🙂👍👍
Same thing with wood and drywall. If there’s a permanent marker mark on there you have to cut the whole part out.
Yep, learned that the hard way…
Absolutely great point! Thank you for that
Your absolutely correct….big problem with bleed through
@@twestgard2 spot priming with shellac works pretty well. Haven’t found anything else that’ll prevent the bleed through
I'm getting old. I really appreciate the way you teach without talking down to people, and don't overexplain everything. Kudos bro.
There is no one on RUclips that provides this content in the same easy-to-understand way that you do. So valuable. thanks
Thanks so much John I appreciate it!
Lots of good tips and very well explained. Nice job on the repairs.
If Fitzee likes it enough to praise it, there must be some good points and merit to it. Cheers, to the both of you for your tutorials. I'm just a hobbyist but I've done this sorta thing for years and I'm always ready to learn from other peoples' work. My poor old Snap-On (badge only, someone else made it) mig welder is battered and worn but it still works and I'll use it til it doesn't then I'll fix it and put it back to work again. Too many projects to do that need a mig welder.
Thanks so much Tony!
Its nice to see 2 of my favorite fabricators commenting on each others RUclips videos.
@@ralphiel5166 was just thinking the same! They’re both awesome!!
I have absolutely no application for what you do in my daily life, but I can't stop watching your videos.
Name a better metal working channel on youtube and I'll watch it but I haven't found one better than this
3M should absolutely sponsor this absolute legend!!!
I said to myself, well better than the Pakistanis 😂
I like that in this episode, you used methods of shaping the patch panels that are more accessible to most of us watching who probably don't have all the fancy benders and other tools. Gives us more options if we decide to fix our own old cars ...
I agree up to the English wheel. I've been doing this stuff for a while and don't have one ( yet ). My current English wheel is scrap black pipe in a vise. 😂
I hope folk realise what a wealth of knowledge they are gifted by you.
The rust prevention techniques that you explained from 20:08 to 22:08 are completely new to me. I had no idea these products or processes existed. So thanks! I know new stuff now!
ETA: also the series of spot welds with a blower solved a problem I’ve been trying to figure out for months. Super helpful, really appreciate it.
You’re so welcome Thomas I’m glad that you were able to absorb some techniques here that answer some of your questions! Cheers
POR 15 - used to be called Metal ready. It's Phosphoric acid and zinc. The acid reacts with the rust by turnin the rust into iron salts, like Iron Nitrate, Sulphate and Chloride. These dissolve in water, so can be washed away. The zinc bonds to the bare steel, and that's the powdery substance on the steel you see after you've washed it down.
I've used Ospho since the early 90s when my Father found out about it. Clean all oil and grease, it's water thin so can be applied however and it will kill rust and keep good metal sealed from rust. Yes u can buy cheaper phosphoric acid from Home Depo but it is not the same. Ospho has some extenders, modifiers, wetting agents, etc. As long as u knock off the heavy scale, chunks etc whatever would fall off from a air hammer, u can just apply and forget. In bad areas that I can't get to easily I will use Muratic acid. I don't let it sit long, 5 or so min. then rinse with Baking soda and water, Dry with air. Apply Ospho. Clean door drains, seal up, use a brake line or hose and funnel and fill doors a few inches and let sit for a week and drain and save for next year. Gotta kill rust.
Where have you been, I'm79 and just seeing a true artist at work! You are known as "Michelangelo Karl" at our home! Your work is truly unbelievable! Thanks for showing us all how to do work with such great talent and patience!
That is probably the best metal finishing work I’ve ever seen. That is going to need almost no filler before paint. Amazing job!
I’d say what a waist of talent, except the unbelievable joy you must give to your customers. You are an extremely rare master craftsman of the highest order. We sure could have used you at spacex twenty years ago.
Great video! Us weekend warriors appreciate the time you put in to making these videos so we can learn. You're a great fabricator. Even Fitzee gives you mention in his videos. 😊 keep up the good work!
I have made and mig welded patches and i think you gave a very good lesson for any metal work on a car or truck. Very nice work sir.
Thank you very much
What an inspiration to the regular ol joe you are . Well done my friend. Beautiful work. I hope Bad Chad and Jolene reach out to your invitation. It was a nice jesture.
As always . so well done and so well explained. Even down to the conversion from 18G to the metric 1.2mm for us metric folk. so many out there just want to show us how good they are. You on the other hand show us how good we can all be with good instruction. I have been a fabricator and engineer for 40 years but not much on car body. the first big job I took on also took on a lot of bondo LOL. Since watching your stuff I have improved massively on car body to the point where I am now building what started out as a scrap 1935 master coupe. I have been following your lead all the way and I am more than happy with how its going,,, all thanks to you Sir. I cant thank you enough. By a mile the best instructional vids anywhere. I am now working on a complex grill from 316 polished. I just have the hood sides to do trying to come up with a good plan for venting the engine. just don't like the boring chopped louvers. wanting it to look in keeping with the 35 master coupe but more sexy. Any thoughts please sir. By the way the welded half tubes for the bonnet edge profiles worked like a charm using silicon bronze rods to keep the heat down.
All the very best Phil UK
I just joined, I've been in the Body business for 45 years and you my young friend are gifted. Love the craftsmanship
Karl, I enjoy everything you create. It’s extremely helpful for me when you use simple tools ( the stuff I have in my shop) you are a great teacher. I’m 65 and you can teach this old dog new tricks!
Right on Chris glad to hear it!
Your detailed information inspire a 60-year-old man to attempt his own bodywork on his rusty 2002 Subaru project car.
Right on! Very stoked to hear it!
Super smart fabrication and repair. Todays lesson was absorbed in the the mind. The shrinking, stretching tool work wonders. really nice piece of tool to have in the workshop. Many thanks Karl.
Yes it really is the best tool for the job. They’re pretty inexpensive compared to other options
Also, you can save a bit like me by buying a single shrinker/stretcher body with both dies. It’s a bit of a pain to switch back and forth (like when I over shrink) but it’ll get you by and allow you to buy more tools.
@@MakeItKustom why did you mark on your shrinker stretcher tool 18 gauge only ?? I know it might not do 16 gauge but it should do 20 or 22 gauge ?? working with the thinner gauge is a nightmare ..for welding Great Videos you do would love too see more hammer forming with the bucks ..
Wow! I just discovered your channel. Karl, your wife is so lucky to have a craftsman like you restore her '60 Cadillac. My favorite year! As meticulous as you are, I had to laugh at your finger smudge tracing of your templates. I can relate! Outstanding, instructional video! I hope by now the '60 Caddy is finished and your wife is taking you for a cruise with her!
Another great video. I'm a TIG guy probably because I grew up gas welding with a coat hanger. MIG and TIG didn't exist for the regular guy. I still use my MIG and stick welders for some situations. I keep seeing people say you need a gap to MIG. That seems counterintuitive to me. I think you disproved that idea. Thank you for your time.
I was about fifteen, had the seat rail of a Ducati needing repair, and was taught with coat hanger and oxyacetylene to weld. I've welded mig and tig most of my life, but never the sheet metal. High level of skill demonstrated here.
You’re most welcome man! It’s true it’s easier to get better penetration with a gap if the welder can’t do it. But I much prefer to be more precise with the cuts
Karl it’s always a pleasure to watch a craftsman work.
🙏🙏🙏
Absolutely one of the best tutorials on this subject. Thank you Karl. Keep moving forward and taking us with you!
You’re so welcome and thanks for your feedback
Everyone who says: why the restoration is so expensive, has to watch this video. That's why!
sweet! little tip to make the gentle curve easier/quicker/smoother - make a lip on both sides and shrink them equally, then trim off the one you don't need
Craftsmanship + Experience + Explanation = Great Fabrication Video
man you made this kind of repair look so easy! awesome content.
thank you for this excelent video. The last 7 minutes were invaluable to me
Wow, what a great video tutorial. Super informative, very thorough and very well explained. This was impressive and absolutely worth the watch for anybody wanting to learn how to do patches with a MIG welder.
Thanks very much! Cheers
A pro knows a pro when they see one , even when the pros have different professions . Thumbs up
Protip I'm getting old so I keep different color markers for different things and I never change it
Red cut lines
Blue bends
Green txt
I have ruined to many panels doing wrong operations
Great idea
You are a very talented artist! Great metal working skills!
And thank you for showing/teaching everyone.
I noticed you did square inside corners on these patches. I find, even if I am super careful with heat, the square corners sort of bunch up. I usually put a radius on that cut so there is not hard corner stop. Good stuff, thoroughly enjoy your work!
*So on a left fender with lower trailing edge patch you would be radius'g the upper left corner of the patch? How far back do you typically go from the corner, do you taper the radius and in what order do you tack or bead the radius? Sorry for the questions, I want to try this and have a fender that is curved in a "squirrely" manner.*
@@1nvisible1 it’s sort of arbitrary. I make my patch panel purposely oversized. Then grab whatever is close by that is round (used up tape roll, rattle can whatever) trace that radius on the corner(s) and cut it out. Then trim the repair opening to fit the patch. Hope this helps.
I appreciate that you used simpler hand tools for the first panel and used shop equipment for the second panel. It demonstrates how to do it if you don't have or can't afford equipment, but also shows what kind of equipment to buy and how to use it if someone wants to make the investment.
Nice tutorial Karl. I'm a self taught amateur restorer and it makes me feel better that you use a lot of the techniques I've figured out myself. I've always used MIG on thin sheet as you demonstrated and I've got good results... and bad too! Theres still lots to learn so thanks for sharing!
Thanks David!
I have been working in a motor vehicle workshop for about 34 years. I would say 70% engine repairs and 30% carrying out mig repairs, mainly for mot failures.
I have learnt more about panel shaping in this video than all my years making panels.
My welding is actually quite good, but I have always struggled to shape and bend my patches to fit as well as yours.
Your grinding/ da work looks effortless
Thank you so much for sharing, hopefully I will be able to improve through your videos ❤
Nice work Karl, very entertaining and educational. I've done quite a bit of sheet metal work myself (old Nissans kind of are my hobby, long live Japanese cars and the lack of rust prevention), but I wish I had seen this video before - learnt so much. Keep up the good work!
I’m glad that you learned some stuff from this video! Long live Japanese cars!
Thanks for explaining everything so well. Also thanks for being so interactive with viewers.
Great video Karli have been watching your videos for a while and i am always amazed at your metal work and skill 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks so much man I really appreciate it!
I love people like you who really like teaching other people knowledge is power. Thank you and God bless.
Great info and explanations ! I want to mention that instead of fiberglass filler over the weld area's you could instead use epoxy primer and then put your bondo filler over the epoxy. I only mention it because you had those panels very straight after you welded and I personally would not want to have the added build thickness of fiberglass fill on those repairs. I mean that as a compliment :).
I'm a structural welder, and saw what you did, and I think you have a good point with the epoxy primer. I've watched others do sheet metal work and seen the technique used, without the full clarity shown here. I too, was impressed with the accuracy of the sheet metal work that fit the pieces so perfectly. Some of the best work I've ever seen. It's good to see the young guy's moving in the same ways, directions of our own youth.
@@johnmcclain3887 Your point about seeing younger guys following in the foot steps of older guys is a good one. Old people know stuff...
@@tonyunderwood9678 Funny thing, I'm sixty five, and got a friend almost ninety, I've known for two decades, who's taught me a lot. I hung out in machine and welding shops, behind the "old men" who were retired, but the "expert knowledge banks" in my own childhood. I believe this is the way of the world, all the way back.
Thank you very much! I really appreciate your feedback and absolutely we’ll go that route. After I hammered a little bit there really is not room for a decent layer of fibreglass reinforced filler as it’s not really needed. It’s good to know that Apoxsee primer is waterproof for that application
@@tonyunderwood9678 Yes and the young ppl need to be taught like we was, by respecting the old pros who have the knowledge and tips and tricks. I worked with a welder on pipeline. Others would bitch if they had to be his helper. I enjoyed it. He was salty but he knew his stuff. And as long as I asked b4 doing dumb stuff he'd show or explain it. Kids today just don't seem to have what we did. I think it's cause there's instant everything and they rather finger a fone than crack a book or ask ppl who have skills to help. Their anxiety gets the best of them. Seems like all have this issue. Idk what it is. Seems like last decade that made any sense was 90s. After that it went down hill fast. Maybe it's me. Maybe I'm that guy who now says Back in my day things was better. But compared to the 90s, it was. movies, music, autos, economy. Could buy a car for $250, fix a issue like this or bad wheel cylinder and have a decent car. Now u can't but a full set of brakes for any car for 250, or even 500.
When the student is ready, the teacher appears. Thanks for being such a great teacher Karl!
You’re so welcome thanks for watching! Cheers
Your work is very impressive and you are very thorough in your explanation of the processes you go through. Thanks for providing us with great videos!
I learned so much in one video of yours. Thanks again
You do a great job in showing how to fix fenders.I learned alot from this video Thank you for your time doing it for us beginners .
Excellent video. I appreciate how you did one side using impromptu tools (bench for bending, etc.) then the other using the brake and English wheel. Helps for those without access to those tools.
I learned to weld structural steel fifty years ago, I've done a bit of sheet metal work, when I had to, but never was near as good as with heavy structural metal. I've learned a lot in the simple pattern design, the careful layout, line patterns, that are so useful in getting the metal to conform with intent. I have no intention of changing my trade, but it's enormously helpful to watch the techniques and skill in getting the sheetmetal to do as it's told. I've never had the time to watch the whole process as I have here. Watching the "shrinker" move the metal in the patch was enlightening, it was a beautiful job, pulling the piece exactly to shape. It's been fairly easy to see the shrinkage factor work into the panel shape issues, very nice job accounting for it all. Kind of incredible, the two panels turned out almost exactly the same.
I’m glad you enjoyed this video Jon! I too started in structural steel. There’s definitely a learning curve going to the thinner metal almost nothing applies from structural. And once I got a shrinker stretcher in the shop it really changed my life lol it’s one of the first tools I think people should buy when getting into Trade
Nice work, I love it when folks save cool historical pieces of the past
Great tutorial...LOL...so simple even a cave man can do it! You are a great craftsman and a good teacher.
Dudes work is so perfect it doesn’t even need body filler tbh 🔥🔥 outstanding work
This video saved me $1,200 by making my own replacement guard on my Case tractor! This includes the $100 I spent on sheet metal and 24 pack of refrigerator magnets! Thanks man!
I like your channel... You give info - explain it & show it... I started do Body Work in 1965... I was a "Flat Rate" body man... (You have no idea)... Most shops didn't have Frame machines... You put a car on Jack Stands, Chained it down as best you could, Got the torch with the biggest "Rose Bud" tip you had - Pushed the rails with a 10 ton ram and "Beat The F___ out it with a BFH.... Floor pans and other "Metal Forming" was done on anything "hard" old piece of steel - sidewalk curb and you heated it and beat it until it fit... The end result was nothing like what you do - NoBody even thought of welding up Slide Hammer holes... The key was "Fast" and Good enough - You didn't get paid for prefect (or Good)... we got from 6 to 9 dollars a flat-rate hour and I could turn 140 hours a week... (I Clipped Cars - with touch - a hammer and a hacksaw) - (Cut 2 cars in half to make 1) - I never had a "Come-Back" for quality in almost 40 years... I can't do much of what you do - But, back then, You would "Starve To Death" - Do what you do... One suggestion - Turn your music down - It seems to be louder now... Great Job ... I like to compare you & Fitzee - He dose beter work then I did - But he started in the same place (24 Grit Dic & a BFH)
I’m more of a collision repair guy, I would only do custom jobs for myself because it’s so much work. With that being said you’re a beast brother and I love guys that actually care about quality . You are no butcher
This guy can tell and show the DYI guy all day how to do this don’t get your feeling hurt if it does not come out the same his first parts did not also. But he’s what I call a Witch and works at stuff until late hours of the night to hone his craft eats breaths and sleeps this stuff . Can’t wait to wake up and hit it again. I like watching the videos and looking for these guys to work on my stuff as I work at my job and save money to pay them.
This is better teaching than anyone could get at college! I’m planning to fix floor patches to an old Suzuki car I bought a years ago. Watching this has encouraged me to get on with it. Thanks! 😊
I'm pleased that the Caddy is being worked on. Thanks Karl
Dang it Carl, you make it look so easy. Lol. Your craftsmanship is amazing.
All I can say is WOW. I have watched a lot of videos where people make their own repair panels, but, you are the best that I have seen. I will be watching more of yours for sure. This is a very good how to video.
Nice one Karl , couldn't stop watching from start to finnish .
It's kind of cool to see you next to the fender for scale and then to realize just how big that freaking fender is 😂😂
I'm really enjoying the caddy work! Can't wait to see that bad boy cruising down the road.
You know what? Your freehand work is pretty freaking awesome!
Hey Cobber, little tip with your roloc discs put a1mm×75mm cutting disc under the roloc when you twist your disc on. You'll get 3x more life out of your disc and more precise grid on you weld. Cheers have a good one, keep up the great content.
Anal about the marking process? Ha! Buddy your passion is surface mounted. I really enjoy watching you tediously give birth to your recreations/creations. I’m just learning how to weld and shape metals at home, with zero back ground in the industry. Turns out, I’m pretty good at it. Your knowledge has been priceless in “pretty good at it” for me. Thank you for sharing.
Side note, I can’t walk away from it , if it’s not perfect or as perfect as I can make it…either. They got names for this but I think it’s just quality workmanship. 🤟💯 I dig the attention to detail. HAMMER AND DOLLY ON!😎 ima go make something, get my fix for the day🤣
totally enjoyed watching a 5-Star fabricator. Appreciate your channel
Best video I have seen on the subject!!! Much appreciate it.
I like the way Fritz Fabrications does he cuts and welder's as he goes drops old part out of the back
It’s a great technique as well
Amazingly good video! Too often we see videos where folks skip over the details, leaving the viewer wondering "how" exactly did he do that? I'm self taught on my fabrication skills, seeing this guy I learn a lot more for sure. Thanks for the content Karl!
You’re so welcome and thanks for your feedback! Glad to hear it
Man I don't even do repairs but this is just satisfying to watch. Great work. I'm a welding student and learned alot from this.
Excellent Vid. My father-in-law was a body man since he was 12 working in he’s dad’s shop in the 30’s. I have all is tools which I see you using in your shop. Reminds my of working with him. Love you explanations and teaching guides.
I'm a nobody man from way back but it sounds to me like you doing good job man I like watching your show you teaching this old dog to New tricks
Try some hairspray on upper roller to hold the rubber band in place. Same thing I've used for grips on everything. This is PRIME craftsmanship! Nice work!
Wow, extremely precise workmanship on display here, verging on perfectionism. Well done Sir, great to see a master at work.
Great to see a professional artist at work
This is like secret panel beaters business. 🤠
Thanks so much for sharing. I have had an old body panel in my shed to practice on for about 10 years.
My wife keeps wanting to chuck it out. Now I have some knowledge I might just dig it out and fix it.
I’ll keep watching and going back through your older videos 🤠
Great job. Thin metal is my nimisis. LoL but I'm learning. So thank you for clearing up some thought processes I was struggling with.
I love your work. It is way more professional than many other "builders" nowadays. My dad was a perfectionist. He welded with Oxy Acet . There was no such thing as bondo in his day. His metal work was file finish perfect. He taught me many things in body repair that aren't practiced today. The spot welding method today really upsets me. Every so called customizer never shows the back side of the tack weld process. I can imagine it's not pretty and leaves a good surface for rust to set in. As you said. The old school would remove the bracing panel . Make the repair ( which would be smooth and true on both sides) then re-attach the bracing panel. True craftsmanship. I've watched my dad actually cut a hole in a car roof to access a repair then repair that hole . No filler at all. I like to emulate dads' methods and do it right. Another one of dads mates said " If you have to grind it. Your not a welder you're a boilermakers lackey." Weld an planish is slow but forever. Keep up your good work.
Simply Genius. Thank you for reminding me not to overthink the process. Always learn from your videos!
Just WOW! Those patches are truly artful. Impressed as always. Looking forward to getting the new member's promo code so I can make my students jealous with a new Make It Kustom T shirt....
Thx as always!
Cheers David! You’re right we better get some T-shirts going soon!
I'm a little late to the game, this is the first video that I have watched of you. You do one hell of a good job, I learned quite a bit. people need to understand this is why bodywork and fabrication cost so much. keep it up, I appreciate it. I’ll keep watching.
Thank you so much for sharing this. It is a pleasure to see you work and to hear you explain things.
Hey mike and steve short but cool as allways. I take a teespoon full of a mix of honey curcuma and cayenpepper every morning. Me and my girl never bin sick sinds 2 whole years. Keep up the cool work man. See ya next week man
great video. Thanks for taking time to show a very beginner the tips and tricks.
I have never air cooled sheet metal while welding . But I'm going to now ! Lol . At work we have a driveshaft department , and after they weld a shaft , they blow shop air pressure on the weld for 10 minutes while shaft turns slowly. A very good video here . Well spoken and well shown . I have to get the notion out of my head that I can run a bead on 20 gauge . Not happening. You just have to keep dotting .
Love how you take the time to mention the little details....
It really helps us newbies/wannabies
Please keep up the videos
Out standing work mate , great to see a man with so much talent giveing his time freely ...
That isn't a technique, that's pure talent 👌 I have tried and tried to get this right and still haven't quite gave up, you have it sorted. Watching you tack the second guard the care and accuracy involved is hard to replicate. Hopefully I can get there one day.
Great video, great info for the home builder or the "pro" who needs to learn how to do it right! I'm a 75 year old home builder that started with oxy acetylene for sheet metal and arc welding (stick) for structural.. Japhands knows what side of the bread the butter is on. There were very few excellent builders back in the day, like Valley Custom and the Ayala Brothers here in SoCal. There were also a lot of "famous" builders who were butchers. All you had to do was look behind a panel or under the car. My hat is off to these young guns like Japhands and Mike Bello who are just flat gettin' after it.
A true artist. I enjoy watching every video. Trying my hand with a rust bucket 91 camaro. Your videos are invaluable to me learn so much. Thank you
Back in the 60's I used a product that was a combination of ground up fiberglass, asbestos, and clay. Mixed with water, (heat dam).
it was applied close to your weld bead, and It soaked up all the extra heat, And it really minimized. The warppage. We didn't have Mig it was oxy/acetylene.
This stuff was really GREAT to use and you can reuse it over and over just by adding more water and mixing to a thick paste.
Even though you can't use Asbestos anymore you can use clay, fiberglass powder, kitty litter, and mix it with water to a thick paste. I've made some and it does work.
You really have some Great skills.
Great Video, THANKS
Best instruction I ever seen on this topic. Thank You!
Body by Fisher! Awesome work! Thanks for the detailed explanation.
I've been looking forward to this. Got lost in it again, thanks for filming it, I loved every minute.
This guy understands metal and he really loves working it he is awesome 😎
Man you have a great talent for forming and welding metal make it look easy, your a real artist at your craft.
Great video as always brother, turned out amazing 👍 just one problem and I’ll go ahead and say what everyone’s thinking…….we’re gonna need a little more footage of my girl Brenda!! I’m sure she’s got something that needs to be fixed 🤣
Ha ha ha oh my, every time you mention I Definitely screenshot it and send it to her
I love and watch one of your video's every day and then I jump in the barn and go to body work welding on my brothers 1929 Plymouth coupe. Call me odd or wrong or even dumb. but 40 % of my learning curve on welding is listening to the weld being applied. ....I was teaching a guy welding I got him all set uo I watched him with my own helmet and then so as not to get him flustered I told him I was going behind the barn to work and I would not come back until he was doing good.. 10 minutes later I yelled to him in the barn and said I see I'll be out here for a long long time. and he said no way you can tell I'm doing bad. And I even told him what his nasty weld looked like 100 feet away in the back yard. 5 minutes later I yelled WOW! you doing great welding but you missed the two seams with wavering...... Then I heard the crispy bacon frying in the pan I then came in and was now a first class B Plus welder and we were both so proud of his work....Hearing a weld tells it all. I've never heard your welding you fast forward it all.. Your spot tacks how long are holding the trigger? 1/10 of a second? 1 full second? Or a blister full spot tack? Please show 1 minute of so called boring scenes we have fast forward if bored. Don't get me wrong your a perfect GREAT teacher love the video's endlessly.
You help us in so many ways and provide many of us who are muddling away in our own shops with loads of inspiration . Thank you sir!
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