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DPS SHOWDOWN! Ayato vs Childe! Who's the MOISTEST 5★ Hydro DPS at C0 & C6?!

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  • Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
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    Today we have the ULTIMATE DPS Showdown between the 2 5 star hydro husbandos, Kamisato Ayato and Childe, AKA Tartaglia.
    0:00 | Intro, Builds, & Disclaimers (IMPORTANT)
    4:34 | Volunteer #1, Cryo Regisvine
    5:46 | Volunteer #2, Primogeovishap
    7:20 | Volunteer #3, Maguu Kenki
    8:56 | Volunteer #4, AOE Scenario
    10:39 | Volunteer #5, Pyro Shield Breaking
    12:05 | Volunteer #6, Full Team
    12:47 | Volunteer #7, Abyss 12
    14:04 | Volunteer #8, "C0" Showdowns
    16:49 | Nuke and Summary
    #Genshin #GenshinImpact

Комментарии • 2,8 тыс.

  • @IWinToLose
    @IWinToLose  2 года назад +409

    Hey guys it's that time of the month again!
    Smash this link to support me and today's sponsor, RAAAAIIIID! clik.cc/TatSP
    Also, sorry Ayaka didn't make it into today's DPS Showdown, but I liked this 1v1 format a lot as it allowed me to really focus on the overlapping roles for these two characters. Lmk what you think! Thanks everyone :)

    • @user-xv5gi7ef6e
      @user-xv5gi7ef6e 2 года назад +3

      Haven't watched the video but 1v1 format seems awesome to me because you can focus on the two roles they fill instead of focusing on many roles (raiden vs yae vs yoi).

    • @kwlvin5153
      @kwlvin5153 2 года назад +7

      Yeah Ayato and Childe is fun but you know what's better RAAAAAAIIIDDD SHADOW LEGENDS!

    • @braddl9442
      @braddl9442 2 года назад +2

      Who is the moistest boi

    • @hafidahmad4935
      @hafidahmad4935 2 года назад +3

      Why attacking diff regisvine ?

    • @HIHI-iz1ku
      @HIHI-iz1ku 2 года назад +3

      No worries! Great video as always and maybe you can include Ayaka in the next dps showdown :D

  • @gin-chan6660
    @gin-chan6660 2 года назад +4875

    Ayato is kinda like itto. They were both a positive experience without too much complaints around them. He's not too strong to the point he breaks the game and he's not an underwhelming character either

    • @khanhtham1812
      @khanhtham1812 2 года назад +412

      And C6 both boost their dps significantly. So they are balanced at c0 and still be able to compete at whale level

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 2 года назад +166

      He looks so boring to play, though. Just standing still, holding down E...

    • @bluelemonade6430
      @bluelemonade6430 2 года назад +63

      Yae Miko wishes

    • @imaginecheating9307
      @imaginecheating9307 2 года назад +379

      @@Axterix13 thats the whole point of him wdym?

    • @UpliftedBrother
      @UpliftedBrother 2 года назад +263

      Itto is quite stronger imo , i have neither but from what i’ve seen ittos also seems more fun to play

  • @matteofaccin6636
    @matteofaccin6636 2 года назад +1319

    Ayato🤝Itto
    being balanced Inazuma characters who came out without controversies and left pullers satisfied both in terms of playstyle and damage

  • @rizamalik3020
    @rizamalik3020 2 года назад +3637

    An opinion from these two havers:
    Ayato: Comfy gameplay, newbie friendly, anime swordsman
    Childe: Tricky but rewarding =HUGE dopamine booster

    • @Vizible21
      @Vizible21 2 года назад +193

      Meta: Childe

    • @ignatoseg4664
      @ignatoseg4664 2 года назад +827

      At the end of the day I'm glad that we can agree that the winner is xiangling

    • @reothomas7624
      @reothomas7624 2 года назад +193

      Accidentally pressed skill early = Dopamine -69420

    • @debamchakraborty1143
      @debamchakraborty1143 2 года назад +135

      It's kinda unfair when the argument of who is easier to play, since ayato is literally the easiest dps to play in game.
      This argument make childe look like he's clunky to play even though he's not clunky to play at all, infact he is very smooth.

    • @freeeedom2824
      @freeeedom2824 2 года назад +1

      @@ignatoseg4664 Holy shi*

  • @SnowingTooth
    @SnowingTooth 2 года назад +2165

    As a Childe main, this shows how his Constellations aren't really that great when it comes to raw damage output. Thx for the vid!

    • @sharkscanplay2890
      @sharkscanplay2890 2 года назад +151

      his constellations are more ease of life than anything
      his c6 is nice for abyss but for anything else it's not important at all

    • @devam8192
      @devam8192 2 года назад +122

      Well in their best teams(vape) childe is still better in both f2p and whale version. And despite not having good constellations childe is like a favorite character for whale speedrunners. He's 80-90% of the times included in speedrunning teams.

    • @devam8192
      @devam8192 2 года назад +68

      @@user-in2dy1xv7m If you are talking about speedrunning, It was Ganyu and Childe team that had the best time.

    • @amirlhmzn
      @amirlhmzn 2 года назад +12

      @@devam8192raiden C6 hypercarry lol, IWTL already did a vid on that.

    • @devam8192
      @devam8192 2 года назад +45

      @@amirlhmzn you are talking about the current abyss only right? Iwtlg just said the best time was from the ganyu and childe team. Ig you are talking about some earlier abyss speedrun.

  • @kibathefang6022
    @kibathefang6022 2 года назад +1346

    It's actually surprising Childe keeps up considering his cons are more focused on improving uptime on his E and burst, rather than a direct damage increase.
    And his C1 is basically worthless when you have C6.

    • @nardouzimaky8410
      @nardouzimaky8410 2 года назад +132

      I got my Childe to C3 for his level 13 skill and stopped there. One of the things I always liked the most about him is that in the hands of a skilled player he's still as much of a monster at C0 as he is at C6.

    • @Azaleaaah
      @Azaleaaah 2 года назад +52

      Yeah the fact that him having one of the worse cons yet gets to keep up with someone who has good cons is something

    • @Stellaria-
      @Stellaria- 2 года назад +14

      yea its bcs his kits focused on applying hydro, thats his role, he is a hydro applicator for vape and not a main dps, thats why lots of his constellations just a QoL and his c4 is basically applying more hydro, it is not a downgrade but just can messed up your rotation when you wanna showcase his nuke damage

    • @PANPONPINPON
      @PANPONPINPON 2 года назад +24

      I guess this opportunity isn't quite hard to come by😔✊

    • @marcoluiz9694
      @marcoluiz9694 2 года назад +19

      @@PANPONPINPON why did i read this in his voice lmao

  • @lynell2B375
    @lynell2B375 2 года назад +867

    I think it's interesting that Childe has quadratic scaling with his riptide slashes. Don't you think it kinda fit into his lore of being more excited to fight more enemies, but more lazy when it's just fighting one enemy

    • @wewong.wowong
      @wewong.wowong 2 года назад +79

      Well said, comrade.

    • @uchuyle8172
      @uchuyle8172 2 года назад +136

      I think it's quite the opposite. He would much rather fight a single strong opponent than a bunch of weak mobs. The number of enemies is irrelevant as he only seek challenges.

    • @nabilzakiron6615
      @nabilzakiron6615 2 года назад +75

      @@uchuyle8172 how about lot of strong enemies?

    • @zaok529
      @zaok529 2 года назад +6

      never thought of it like that lol

    • @dadian803
      @dadian803 2 года назад +18

      @@nabilzakiron6615
      Even better! - Childe. He will laugh like a maniac that's for sure.

  • @ayoshi5616
    @ayoshi5616 2 года назад +1037

    Considering Childe is from 1.1, I think it’s impressive he is still as good as he is now

    • @kayos5396
      @kayos5396 2 года назад +105

      Yeah but I really do hope that older characters that have been outclassed or outdone get some reworks in the future cuz I’m afraid that further in the game they’ll just be forgotten

    • @aresx3749
      @aresx3749 2 года назад +39

      @@kayos5396 unfortunately it's a gacha game and gacha games never ever update their old character

    • @michaelatalig
      @michaelatalig 2 года назад +68

      @@aresx3749 not true lol

    • @Kiki-oy2wh
      @Kiki-oy2wh 2 года назад +14

      @@aresx3749 they just make the new version of the character

    • @youravictim38
      @youravictim38 2 года назад +8

      @@aresx3749 Insanely not true

  • @hao7266
    @hao7266 2 года назад +430

    Both of them are so good especially for F2P, though im a welkin player. For international team, I would prefer Childe as double swirl and hydro application is lot easier. As for Ayato, literally you can build any teamcomps on him to tackle the abyss. I have no cryo main dps, but finally able to use frozen ayato team to fight the 2 abyss herald on 12-3-2 using rosaria diona and venti. It is so fun to run both Childe and Ayato in abyss, they shines at their own roles.

    • @Azaleaaah
      @Azaleaaah 2 года назад +7

      We literally have the same freeze team! And yeah it's fun running both of them in abyss

    • @epsresso1857
      @epsresso1857 2 года назад +1

      do you guys use blizzard strayer for freeze team or hod? idk what to put on him

    • @hao7266
      @hao7266 2 года назад +1

      @@epsresso1857 I used 4pc gladiator on him. I think it just depends on your substat, I have better gladiator so it works just fine.

    • @epsresso1857
      @epsresso1857 2 года назад

      @@hao7266 i see :o thanks for the reply!

    • @Azaleaaah
      @Azaleaaah 2 года назад

      @@epsresso1857 i use 4 pc HoD cause I have good substats. Dunno which is better

  • @Melon-lg5rq
    @Melon-lg5rq 2 года назад +582

    I think this was a good showcase showing all the kinds of ways the characters can be used, while it is probably more time consuming for you, it does show a much better comparison between characters at all levels of investment, and not just whale levels

    • @lilienne6082
      @lilienne6082 2 года назад +1

      Changed the 69 likes to 70 👍

    • @metaverse6353
      @metaverse6353 2 года назад +3

      paid actor

    • @timothykim378
      @timothykim378 2 года назад

      I don't think so since the majority of his showcases are against a single target whilst characters like childe shine much much more against multi target but is a bit worse when it comes to single target compared to other characters

  • @doomyloomy1081
    @doomyloomy1081 2 года назад +831

    Now I kind of want to see Ayato interact with Childe considering their lore.

    • @haydenurse
      @haydenurse 2 года назад +20

      What lore ?

    • @adamizham3319
      @adamizham3319 2 года назад +118

      I read that as love 💀

    • @mariapazgonzalezlesme
      @mariapazgonzalezlesme 2 года назад +263

      @@haydenurse
      Let me put it this way.
      Those two called are rascals, both are Hydro users, older siblings and two-faced men willing to do anything shady.

    • @blankness8
      @blankness8 2 года назад +142

      @@mariapazgonzalezlesme I feel like Ayato is less genocidal but excellent summary.

    • @dadian803
      @dadian803 2 года назад +121

      @@blankness8
      Tartaglia isn't exactly genocidal lol! He disliked that plan since what's the point of harming civilians or to him, weaklings that wouldn't make him stronger. That was Tsaritsa, Signora, and Zhongli. Ever wonder why Zhongli was criticized (lore wise) when he was released? Because other than his lackluster dmg and gameplay that plan was still too much for an ideal Chinese Emperor. Of course, tough love but still too risky. I thought that was clear with the corrected translation.
      Anyways, more like Ayato has less of a chance if you look at the overall scheme/endgame to do such things or go down that path. Just don't pose a threat to the clan, family and Inazuma and Ayato will leave you alone. I guess you can say Childe is similar but if only Childe isn't part of the overall/endgame lore. Only time will tell if the form thought by Skirk would have an effect to Childe's mental state and his mental state is already something else. You just gotta thank his military time to at least snapped him back.
      His form, pretty much his fighting style is already abyss like (compare how he moves and the hydro slashes he does with the lector and his form as well) and if it turns out it's the way how the royal guards of Khaenri'ah fight then a potential clash between Dain, Childe and Skirk will be a sight to behold.

  • @lockse098
    @lockse098 2 года назад +155

    I think the main differences are that Ayato is able to buff himself (and others) + his constellations are purely dmg focused, while Childe has no buff implemented in his kit and the constellations are more focused on hydro application and CD reduction.
    They're still both great and got me the win in abyss.

    • @Narennn69
      @Narennn69 2 года назад +1

      Isnt childe passive plus your party normal attack to 1? Isnt it just the same as ayato burst that buff your normal attack?

    • @lockse098
      @lockse098 2 года назад +7

      @@Narennn69 nope not really. Childe raises your team's normal attacks talent by 1lvl which is mostly like 5% more dmg, while Ayato's ult gives, at lvl 8, 18% dmg buff so nearly 4 times the amount.
      In both cases many characters don't even benefit from it, but if we just compare those two than Ayato benefits from his buff while Childe doesn't, as his main dmg ability, his E, doesn't benefit
      from it, cause it doesn't work the same as Ayato's E.

  • @marci5480
    @marci5480 2 года назад +607

    Is no one going to talk about the time and effort this man exerts to make these types of videos? I think it's safe to say that this is everyone's go-to content creator when it comes to comparisons. Keep up good sir!

    • @azizsetyawan3038
      @azizsetyawan3038 2 года назад +13

      Yea, he really put alot of effort to this video. Now we know, Even with the help of xingqiu battery to boost childe brust up time, he still not manage to surpass ayato
      I think ayato have twice in terms of power compared to Childe
      Also maybe it's because the powercreap that mihoyo mostly did to release and hyping the new characters

    • @noelrakman9641
      @noelrakman9641 2 года назад +17

      Are u going to ignore that this is his job? Lmao

    • @laplue
      @laplue 2 года назад +2

      that's why I'm always here when building a character. heck, her diona dps is stronger than my childe

    • @marci5480
      @marci5480 2 года назад +25

      @@noelrakman9641 this is an appreciation comment, regardless if it's his job or not the fact remains that he exerts a lot of effort to entertain this community lmao. Mind you that not everyone exerts the same amount of time and effort even if it's their job.

    • @kokonut7342
      @kokonut7342 2 года назад +3

      I’m seeing this kind of comment on almost every video😃

  • @invisibleevidence1970
    @invisibleevidence1970 2 года назад +1015

    Ayato is just so flexible , that it doesn't matter if he is better or not than other DPSes

    • @doggoswampu1450
      @doggoswampu1450 2 года назад +54

      @@nrnayem5028 Diluc is nowhere near as flexible as ayato lmao

    • @joshuag8
      @joshuag8 2 года назад +4

      @UCw5zikUSreplQd08hdT7Ddw how is diluc a support ?

    • @yujin-1907
      @yujin-1907 2 года назад +96

      @@doggoswampu1450 copium diluc player. 😂

    • @marielgalicha8548
      @marielgalicha8548 2 года назад +49

      @@doggoswampu1450 Since when can Diluc become a sub DPS or support lol

    • @debamchakraborty1143
      @debamchakraborty1143 2 года назад +45

      I would rather have a flexible team that does well in any situation like International team rather than a flexible character that can fit in any team but doesn't do better than the teams original counterpart(kokomi/mona for freeze, childe in vape).
      But Ayato is definitely the best choice in electro-charged, now it depends on you if you consider electro charged meta or not.

  • @sirius2338
    @sirius2338 2 года назад +165

    I think these 2 characters are much more comparable at c0 because childes constellations dont do much for his damage

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +4

      He did compare them at c0.. kinda of, he tried to simulate a c0 Childe (since his was already at c6) which actually does way more dmg than an actual c0 Childe, so it's possible the gap would've been much closer at a proper c0 comparison

    • @nexuhs.
      @nexuhs. 2 года назад +48

      @@haruyanto8085 "way more damage"
      - made no difference whatsoever

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +7

      @@nexuhs. 15:21 "significant additional damage", you're welcome. Tho it's only 3s difference

    • @dylanfrias7054
      @dylanfrias7054 2 года назад +4

      @@haruyanto8085 most of the damage difference was due to weapon not cons.

    • @Zak-tk8wv
      @Zak-tk8wv 2 года назад

      yes

  • @avyay9818
    @avyay9818 2 года назад +89

    I still like Childe more though, with the weapon switch and having an additional mechanic that makes him not braindead.

    • @Ivy-jq6di
      @Ivy-jq6di 2 года назад

      Fr Ayato is incredibly braindead gameplay

    • @zinn1as
      @zinn1as Год назад

      @@Ivy-jq6di literally all the characters in this game play braindead yall act like this game has complex gameplay 💀

  • @ChaosRevealsOrder
    @ChaosRevealsOrder 2 года назад +57

    3:23 As a Tart main I consider that a win, the ability to defeat yourself on the field of battle proves you've gone far and beyond normal human capabilities!

  • @ryunsan3967
    @ryunsan3967 2 года назад +475

    not gonna lie
    as a childe main
    I felt happy when childe got his first win

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 2 года назад +92

      Most of his "losses" here are in situations that aren't even favored towards his kit design. Any AoE based content Childe pulls way ahead to the point of absurdity. But most of these were against big single target enemies where Childe isnt as good. It's like using Beidou against a single enemy and using that as a comparison to fischl against a single target lol

    • @ryunsan3967
      @ryunsan3967 2 года назад +7

      @@justsomeguy727 its fine tho

    • @eggycarrot
      @eggycarrot 2 года назад +15

      @@justsomeguy727 Ayato is an AoE DMG dealer too tho...
      I mean look at his slashes , it's literally bigger than childe's
      Also here's your AoE test 9:10

    • @tirafihaniffaturahman7477
      @tirafihaniffaturahman7477 2 года назад +6

      ayato still better

    • @guesswho8947
      @guesswho8947 2 года назад +4

      Yup super situational and it's very impartial how this video takes 4/6 parts to show solo damage when genshin is best played as 4 team rotations

  • @SephGoH
    @SephGoH 2 года назад +390

    Only issue I have with Childe is that I tend to leave him on the field for too long😅
    Update: Lmao what did I start🤦🏽

    • @digranes1976
      @digranes1976 2 года назад +74

      I hate that design choice. Why can’t his E work like Ayato’s or Hutao. A set duration and cooldown.

    • @Someone-zs5xr
      @Someone-zs5xr 2 года назад +51

      @@digranes1976 Exactly! He would be so popular if he had a set CD

    • @giulia1361
      @giulia1361 2 года назад +57

      @@digranes1976 Literally doesn't make any sense for it to exist especially considering how much more powerful and forgiving other characters are with the same skill infusion mechanic.

    • @jokesonu3412
      @jokesonu3412 2 года назад

      oh...

    • @chimchim1516
      @chimchim1516 2 года назад +27

      David i knowww, i dont understand why his e infusion is locked behind a long cooldown, it isnt even an overpowered e skill that warrants a long cooldown...

  • @Zarya.
    @Zarya. 2 года назад +86

    Its kind of weird to compare these characters’ solo dps, when childe is a super team oriented character and especially at whale investments where he is used only for nuking

    • @dizzlegrizzle1919
      @dizzlegrizzle1919 Год назад +1

      lol bruh... ayato is now the go to whale abyss speed running character. C6 gives him 80% more damage and only gives childe like 35%. A C6 ayato has each of his skill slashes looking like childes burst lol

    • @aminulhussain2277
      @aminulhussain2277 Год назад +2

      @@dizzlegrizzle1919 Only for the first slash.

  • @azizharun6854
    @azizharun6854 2 года назад +134

    The one thing that annoys me is that everyone just sees Childe as a Xiangling slave which is really annoying cause Childe does decent damage. That's why I'm pretty happy Ayato isn't a Xiangling slave

    • @adrianpaulochoa9825
      @adrianpaulochoa9825 2 года назад +10

      I was scared of the same thing, that ayatos "meta" damage would be tied to one single team

    • @guyschill2059
      @guyschill2059 2 года назад +110

      But then people don't call every pyro dps xingqui slave

    • @azizharun6854
      @azizharun6854 2 года назад +13

      @@guyschill2059 preach

    • @zackmwiti119
      @zackmwiti119 2 года назад +6

      @@adrianpaulochoa9825 But what team is he actually good in? Genuinely curious cause I dont see a team of mine he is improving

    • @vani5632
      @vani5632 2 года назад +14

      Because xingqiu helps the dps dmg and he is the applicator unlike xiangling she uses all vape provided by her teammates and make them look bad

  • @KromeLazarus
    @KromeLazarus 2 года назад +97

    I am happy with the results. Ayato and Childe have a specific Niche and Role in the game, despite the Ayato/Venti-Centric Abyss and doesn't take away each other's Role.

    • @putent9623
      @putent9623 2 года назад +9

      This is why I scuff when people say genshin impact isn't handling power creeping well. Ayato came out, but in no way did he invalidate pulling for Childe, his constellations are fine too and they at least tried to give him a completely different design to the other characters of this game (I believe he is the only white suited character in the game).

    • @nationalgeografic7687
      @nationalgeografic7687 Год назад

      Bro how da hell ayato is niche

    • @sumbunniii8721
      @sumbunniii8721 Год назад

      This comment didn’t age well 💀💀

  • @watchingstuff9671
    @watchingstuff9671 2 года назад +58

    Well, Childe would be back in my team if he wouldn't be so damn shy to crit at 70% 😭

    • @josh-wb8lq
      @josh-wb8lq 2 года назад +10

      thank god im not the only one. My 80% crit rate childe only crit on his N'As not on his burst and im only using him as burst-support :D

    • @someonlineidiot3595
      @someonlineidiot3595 2 года назад +12

      My 40 crit rate childe crits all the time lol

    • @froyd9664
      @froyd9664 2 года назад +11

      @@someonlineidiot3595 Then you've probably used up all of your luck for the year
      Be careful, Zhongli's meatball might hit your house soon

    • @kdhupar0
      @kdhupar0 2 года назад +1

      Reduce your crit rate to like 50%

    • @Pika-sp9cs
      @Pika-sp9cs 2 года назад

      @@kdhupar0 Knowing my luck with winning 50/50s...

  • @kyla1080
    @kyla1080 2 года назад +20

    As someone who hurts their whole right limb from clicking, I really like Ayato's playstyle. I also draw and do chores and I usually use my right limb so I really appreciate Ayato and Itto's playstyle. It might be boring for some people but its really fun for me.

  • @arthoormoorgen9492
    @arthoormoorgen9492 2 года назад +194

    As Ayato & Childe mains their difference are..
    Ayato: more comfy to play, flexible, relatively strong in all kind of teams
    Childe: more risky but more rewarding, niche in low to mid investment but also getting more flexible in higher invesment, VERY STRONK in Vape team, and imho the most fun character ever (riptide goes brr)
    Edit: check out TenTen's channel about Childe Riptide, and his best party International team (one of the strongest and most versatile team rn). Ayato's best team is yet to be discovered, but I think he will have a good place in meta.

    • @loosethread8754
      @loosethread8754 2 года назад +15

      Ahhh a fellow riptide connoisseur

    • @p1p3B0mber
      @p1p3B0mber 2 года назад +3

      I thought Ayato's best team is soup (Fischl, Kazuha, Bennett) for team-wide damage and Hypercarry (Kazuha, Yun Jin, Bennett) for personal damage.

  • @ttakkt6480
    @ttakkt6480 2 года назад +18

    7:13 that childe switching to bow stance was clean

  • @fleurescent6609
    @fleurescent6609 2 года назад +108

    Honestly Childe’s constellations don’t really change or make Childe a lot better, other than the talent ones. I’ve seen that and the second part of the video is very informative!!
    Ayato is so broken at c6 lol
    Thank you IWTL!!!

    • @MAQGMO
      @MAQGMO 2 года назад

      Watch the video lol

    • @lordenel9715
      @lordenel9715 2 года назад +37

      @@MAQGMO I mean I watched the video…..and he’s right, Ayato’s c6 definitely made a huge difference

    • @SleepingLittleHedgehog
      @SleepingLittleHedgehog 2 года назад +10

      @@MAQGMO what r u trying to say

    • @regret7442
      @regret7442 2 года назад +9

      ayato > childe in terms of overall kit including cons

    • @Gonshaaa
      @Gonshaaa 2 года назад +14

      @@regret7442 yeh but childe has a better f2p team wich is also really easy to use

  • @chips14
    @chips14 2 года назад +28

    i always look forward to iwtl's videos. they're a perfect mix of entertaining, informative, and enjoyable. thank you for always putting in insane amounts of effort and time into making your videos.

  • @Bongripper.
    @Bongripper. 2 года назад +25

    Isn’t childe fighting hydro lizard in test two (hydro res), while ayato is fighting electro? My eyes might be deceiving me tho

    • @chebelme
      @chebelme 2 года назад +6

      There was this test where ayato was against hydro and childe with another element but still ayato won that round.

    • @ShrinePriestess
      @ShrinePriestess 2 года назад +20

      No thats cryo

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +3

      Doesn't matter tho, since the lizards has the same resistance to hydro

  • @rin7310
    @rin7310 2 года назад +44

    None of them are better than the other it just depends on the situation
    Ayato Pros:- Easy to play, good in freeze and taser teams,good uptime on skill, great constellations(whales)
    Ayato cons:- low individual DMG (compared to other top tier 5*dps),not the best in vape teams, long burst animation, high energy burst, has really good constellations (f2p), *can't plunge in skill*
    Childe Pros:one of the best aoe in game, fastest hydro application by far, has big nukes, has one of thes best teams (International), bad constellations(f2p), low energy requirements.
    Childe cons:- low individual DMG (compared to other top tier 5*dps), very team dependent(early-mid game), weak constellations (whales) ,very technical, need to learn cooldown management , is more of an enabler instead of dps because of his high hydro application supports can't enable him, *can't plunge in melee*
    So it just depends on the player and his or hers desired gameplay style (if i missed anything be sure to tell me and I add it to the list if I approve of it)

    • @RafaelBanks69
      @RafaelBanks69 2 года назад +3

      Not really...childe is better, idk where the idea that childe has low individual damage comes from either, Childe's vaporized burst alone is about 30% of his team's total dps in a rotation.

    • @RafaelBanks69
      @RafaelBanks69 2 года назад +1

      Also as for childe being team dependent, that's really not the case because Ayato legit only has one team where he outperforms other hydro options and that is tazer combined with the fact that while tazer is a strong team it's definitely not a top meta team. As for Childe, the characters he synergizes well with are characters everyone builds already, Bennett is the best character in the game, Xiangling is probably the best pyro dps in the game and everyone needs an anemo unit because viridescent is Overpowered.

    • @rin7310
      @rin7310 2 года назад +1

      @@RafaelBanks69 Fixed the low DMG one for the both of them but as for the team one he really is team dependent he can't really be played solo whereas characters like ayato can be played hypercarry and still get good results only upgrading ayato but childe if you only upgrade him he isn't good as good compared to other significantly this is mainly a problem for newer players but it is still something to consider but I've fixed the wording on it

    • @bokicake
      @bokicake 2 года назад +14

      @@RafaelBanks69 but,,,, you're saying this that ayato only has "one team" that outperforms others and yet you're also saying childe is better because he also has one team that he can outperform others on,,,, like, did you read your comment before posting coz that's literally hypocritical 💀 and btw, ayato is definitely better in taser and freeze comps.

    • @RafaelBanks69
      @RafaelBanks69 2 года назад +1

      @@bokicake I'm saying Ayato doesn't have a team that outperforms any. Tazer isn't a top meta team, it's just a decent team probably on the levels of melt ganyu or mono pyro teams but it's not outperforming any actual meta team unless the scenario is specifically boosting it.

  • @_keru
    @_keru 2 года назад +12

    This dps showdown was kind fucking useless. Everyone knew Childe would lose in a single target with no teammates showdown. To the people saying "if he had use Xangling then it would have been a Xangling showcase" keep huffing copium. The whole point about Childe is reactions, not single target slugfest lmfao

    • @daisuke6353
      @daisuke6353 2 года назад +2

      Damm right

    • @plsstopitgetsomehelp9488
      @plsstopitgetsomehelp9488 2 года назад +3

      Ikr ppl just comparing them just because they're "hydro DPS" when they're literally compesate each other. And what was that geovishap showcase with a 3 hydro characters? Can't believe that Childe is already 1 years in this game and ppl still don't know his true role

    • @oldestdream3834
      @oldestdream3834 2 года назад +1

      Lmao for real

  • @arifyesehehehehhewahahahah3445
    @arifyesehehehehhewahahahah3445 2 года назад +28

    You: cryo regisvine
    Also you: let's give ayato a pyro regisvine.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +18

      Regisvine has 10% hydro resistance regardless, the element reaction is only useful for breaking the shield, plus he only started the timer after the shield broke, it's fair and learn the game

    • @zxa03
      @zxa03 2 года назад +5

      It's doesn't matter tho he started the timer after both shields are down

  • @chebelme
    @chebelme 2 года назад +147

    The difference between these two is that, Childe needs a full team to maximize his damage. So he's glued to his team. Ayato on the other hand has his own decent damage that can be better with supports but you can slap him with any teams without worrying about his damage. That's why he's an all-rounder.

    • @inessladia5747
      @inessladia5747 Год назад +8

      I don’t agree

    • @JhonnyStone100
      @JhonnyStone100 Год назад +16

      @@inessladia5747 you don’t agree because you’re salty. Ayato drowns this nerfed harbinger even at c0 LOL childe mains crying in the corner rn

    • @MO-zk8qs
      @MO-zk8qs Год назад +42

      @@JhonnyStone100 As a lover of both: it is true ayato is very flexible which makes him reliable. However childe does outshine ayato in enemy hoard situations, which there are a lot of.
      Truthfully the difference in dmg potential when they’re both played to their strong suits is minimal. What is to be considered is fun factor. In that regard for me, childe delivers that in spades with his snappy moveset and rewarding mechanics.

    • @toji1384
      @toji1384 Год назад +39

      @@JhonnyStone100 The only person salty here is you lmao. Love to see it

    • @pedro_antuness22
      @pedro_antuness22 Год назад +13

      @@JhonnyStone100 it just shows you didnt watch the video since the final conclusion is ayato is better at c6 in nuke dmg but even at c0 and c6 childe wins in a lot of situations. Childe is better

  • @AD-xe3co
    @AD-xe3co 2 года назад +115

    I have them both at level 90 and double crowned, I would say that Ayato is more comfortable playing. I still love Childe tho, but Ayato is much easier (given that I'm not using Xiangling so I'm not using the International team in Abyss).

  • @Ulquiorra_Cifer
    @Ulquiorra_Cifer 2 года назад +44

    Ayato is like any of the latest dps units, his dmg increases exponentially with constellations, but he is also much more flexible than childe and easier to use, childe in the other hand is the best on field applier in the game with very good nuking dmg and aoe dmg even for f2p players

    • @DaviD-fi9lj
      @DaviD-fi9lj 2 года назад +5

      Wdym he's more flexible than childe lol?

    • @iloveplumpgrannies174
      @iloveplumpgrannies174 2 года назад +2

      Tartaglia will shine again once we get a 5* version of Xiangling just as how Xingqiu got a 5* version namely Yelan.

    • @kevzzzzzz
      @kevzzzzzz 2 года назад +8

      @@DaviD-fi9lj He fits in a lot more team comps

    • @sladeTek
      @sladeTek 2 года назад +20

      @@DaviD-fi9lj childe depends on xiangling to nuke meanwhile ayato can fit in nearly any team comp as a support or main dps

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +3

      @@iloveplumpgrannies174 actually it seems like both Kuki and Yelan are more catered towards Ayato, tho ofc Childe will definitely benefit, but his strong point is in vape team

  • @lakia-chan
    @lakia-chan 2 года назад +32

    here's my personal summary as a childe and ayato main:
    for reference my childe is c6 r1 and triple crowned, while my ayato is c2 r1 and triple crowned too.
    ayato: super easy to use and very flexible in his team comps and roles. short skill CD and good energy generation for burst uptime. but, if you don't kill the enemies in a single skill, it hurts quite a bit. ayato's constellations are also direct dps increases.
    childe: very aggressive playstyle and insane hydro application so you almost always should play him in reaction teams. very high dps if done right but it requires set up and the CD is a pain in the ass. childe's constellations aren't dps increases but quality of life/smoother gameplay increases. in that way, i gain more dps but it's very expensive

    • @Josh_u
      @Josh_u Год назад

      Amazing summarizing.

  • @lanongphichit2003
    @lanongphichit2003 2 года назад +65

    Personally, I think Ayato E cooldown is the reason I play him more. And it is very comfortable for me.

    • @pinklabbit
      @pinklabbit 2 года назад +11

      I totally agree with you. Childe frustrates me to no end because if I overextend a rotation, his E cool down is way too long. I hate that and I don't understand why they would have such a punishing mechanic in the first place.

    • @ihatecereal1763
      @ihatecereal1763 2 года назад +6

      ayo not trying to be condescending or rude but please learn the rotations if you currently agree with this… suddenly, it’s not such a punishing issue after all

    • @pinklabbit
      @pinklabbit 2 года назад +10

      @@ihatecereal1763 Also trying not to be defensive, but I do happen to know the rotation but I’m still largely unsatisfied with his gameplay.

    • @dromdart3563
      @dromdart3563 2 года назад +1

      @@pinklabbit fr in his trial quest he seemed to be interesting but bro I finished the Fatui training with my own team. His gameplay stile is so annoying for me 🙄

    • @zaok529
      @zaok529 2 года назад +5

      @@dromdart3563 then you're not playing him right lol, are you using his skill for like 30 sec on field, bruh the artifact set that came out for him literally has the buff only last 15 seconds, showing you're not meant to over use his skill

  • @billli1887
    @billli1887 2 года назад +25

    For volunteer #6 part childe could prolly just one shot the lizard with a ranged burst. Not a huge difference tho lol.

  • @mozzy2968
    @mozzy2968 2 года назад +13

    As someone with both characters, different comps bring out their damage better. So i use both in Abyss clears.

  • @anabs12
    @anabs12 2 года назад +13

    I love Ayato and putting him in my teams made me want to pull for Childe in his next rerun because I realized there HAS to be another male hydro husbando in my other teams

    • @nela1728
      @nela1728 2 года назад +4

      I use both of them in abyss and it's so fun

  • @sensibleDuck893
    @sensibleDuck893 2 года назад +20

    c6 Childe and c0 Childe doesn't have much difference
    c0 ayato and c6 ayato is very big power difference since c6 Ayato can nuke but c5 can't.
    This shows how great Ayato is for whale players and how Childe still remains one of the best f2p friendly 5* character since he's the best support for best f2p dps i.e Xiangling 😂

    • @kinderenuithetraamgooien9083
      @kinderenuithetraamgooien9083 2 года назад

      Ayato won the f2p test tho 💀?

    • @icekyuu
      @icekyuu 2 года назад

      I don't understand this best f2p thing. International has Kazuha right, that's two five stars? How's that f2p friendly? Rational is friendlier with just one five star, or just regular national which is all four stars and still really good.

    • @sensibleDuck893
      @sensibleDuck893 2 года назад +1

      @@icekyuu if you saying that way , only few teams can be f2p.
      F2p teams mean all 5* at c0.
      and all 4* at below c6 level.
      that's what i call f2p level , yours might be different.
      Have you ever wondered why Childe is called most f2p friendly character , its because his c0 and c6 have no significant power difference.
      Eula for e.g is good at f2p level but she's not f2p friendly since her c0 and c6 have so much fcking power gap that its insane.

    • @hydroarchon5697
      @hydroarchon5697 2 года назад +5

      @@kinderenuithetraamgooien9083 correction:- ayato won against a childe that didnt use xiangling. You see the problem is every childe players use xiangling. Saying ayato won here is very misleading

    • @sensibleDuck893
      @sensibleDuck893 2 года назад

      @ca5 Technically yes, Sucrose provides more buffs to One character than Kazuha but that's c6 sucrose , since she gives EM sharing , elemental dmg bonus 20% , 48% TTDS buff and 40% VV shred.
      While c0 Kazuha is giving around 35% elemental dmg bonus and 40% VV shred only.
      But sucrose buffs has significant downtime while Kazuha's doesn't and Kazuha can provide equal buff to both Childe and Xiangling with relatively flexible rotations , that's why Kazuha is preferred over sucrose and also same reason why Sucrose is a god tier support.

  • @viniciuscrespo8612
    @viniciuscrespo8612 2 года назад +9

    I think this is a good showcase in how Mihoyo learnt to make constellations for characters, i think there would have been a lot more ties or Childe's victories if Ayato's constellations weren't so good lol

  • @youabsolutebaka3529
    @youabsolutebaka3529 2 года назад +69

    I have both but I just find ayato to be so satisfying especially in tazer with beidou and Raiden or yae and Raiden

    • @asfduejs5813
      @asfduejs5813 2 года назад +7

      yeaah ayato is better in taser comp while childe is better in vape comp

  • @chronosite
    @chronosite 2 года назад +63

    Ayato's playstyle is easier to understand and more new player friendly
    Childe's playstyle is more faster moving and has a higher skill cap
    My friends always ask how I like to use Childe with his year-long E skill cooldown so yeah the skill cap definitely shows there
    Judging by constellation, Childe is more F2P friendly since his constellation is more of a QoL improvement
    While Ayato gives him big boost in damage output from the constellations
    So far I still prefer Childe as my main
    And sometimes I just put them together just for fun

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +7

      Yeah but Ayato is overall easier for f2p players I think, most probably are just casual and don't care too much about finicky game rotation mechanics, tho I'd agree that with the amount of rerun Childe has, the chances of players having him at higher constellation is higher

    • @Azaleaaah
      @Azaleaaah 2 года назад +10

      @@haruyanto8085 Ayato is easier for casuals but Childe is better for f2p

    • @albedo7577
      @albedo7577 2 года назад +7

      @@Azaleaaah i know Many people says that Childe is F2P Friendly, But Upgrading him is Hard for me. crit Ratio is my Problem. weapon Rust. 55/144 While the other Childe has 60/200 idk why my attack is 2200 Only To.

    • @uchuyle8172
      @uchuyle8172 2 года назад +10

      @@albedo7577 He IS F2P friendly. You only need a mediocre Childe to work in his best team, International. At F2P level of investment, Xiangling would always deal more damage than him anyway.

    • @epicskylegend7501
      @epicskylegend7501 2 года назад +9

      I disagree with the stance on constellations. Having strong damage boosting constellations doesn’t take away from how F2P friendly or not F2P friendly a character is. IMO what decides how F2P friendly a character is going to be their weapons, teams, and power at C0 relative to other characters in the same category. None of the buffs of Ayato’s constellations are really needed in his base kit. They just increase his damage which is already satisfactory at C0 with 4 star weapons. I believe a better example of someone who isn’t quite as F2P friendly is Yae. Yae can struggle with er at C0, but her C1 essentially fixes that energy recharge problem which is an attribute that’s very much desired in her base kit. Raiden for instance has a very strong C2, but is also strong at C0. Do you mean to say that a character like that isn’t as F2P friendly as another character just because her constellations give her a big boost in damage even when she’s very capable without them? These constellations don’t make them any weaker at their base form which is why I don’t necessarily believe that stance makes sense. I think because Childe gets a smaller boost in damage across in constellations it’s giving you the perception that he’s stronger in his base form, and that his constellations are less “needed.” The reality is that Ayato and Childe in terms of power are comparable in their base forms, and none of their constellations are “needed.” Both are strong at C0, and are F2P friendly in the sense that none of them have constellations that are truly needed as additions to their base kit. It’s just that Ayato has a higher damage ceiling with his constellations.

  • @lameass.channel
    @lameass.channel 2 года назад +6

    This is a really bad comparison video,
    You should compare them in vape, taser and freeze teams instead of doing random bs

    • @ki_dochannel93
      @ki_dochannel93 2 года назад +4

      Didn't Veyn already do one of these? Childe wins in Vape, Ayato wins in Freeze and Electro-charged.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +1

      This is not random, he's testing their respective DPS dmg potential not team comps

    • @lameass.channel
      @lameass.channel 2 года назад

      @@haruyanto8085 that's really pointless, do you use only a single character or a team of four characters? Teams should be compared not characters

  • @corpse214
    @corpse214 2 года назад +6

    I use to complain when people were like "mmmm, idk but I just don't like this character" I'd be Iike bro why? Then ayato came and I get it, he's cool, but I really just don't feel him

  • @bigboysalween1063
    @bigboysalween1063 2 года назад +20

    I think ayato is super well designed. What i mean by that is Ayato and childe may be similar at first glance but can be used in different scenarios and are great at different things. People that have childe already can pull for ayato cuz its different enough.

    • @asfduejs5813
      @asfduejs5813 2 года назад

      but if someone collect husbandos so why not have them both? ❤️

    • @alrest8060
      @alrest8060 2 года назад

      @@asfduejs5813 Then you don't need these videos of who's better

    • @asfduejs5813
      @asfduejs5813 2 года назад +2

      @@alrest8060my curiosity kills me hahhaha

    • @angelorafael8103
      @angelorafael8103 Год назад

      @@alrest8060 to know which one to use?

  • @dadian803
    @dadian803 2 года назад +67

    Huh! Considering IWTL relationship with Childe especially his lore which was mistranslated, this was positive.
    I have both and I can't exactly say that it's like the Venti and Kazuha relationship but Ayato is a solid character! Very easy to play and build so it's not shocking people would prefer him and some might even bring the CD problem of Ajax.
    As for Ajax, he is a high risk-high reward character so pulling some work or brain juice into managing his CD and team rotation is rewarding.
    Ayato feels complete at C0 and Childe too if you don't always go CD statement. Only thing worth in Childe's cons are the skill + levels. I feel just the burst since his burst multiplier is really good!
    If you just want it easy then Ayato is great for you! If you want to challenge yourself, go for Childe.

    • @shyamprakash9050
      @shyamprakash9050 2 года назад

      May I know what was mistranslated?

    • @ShubhamkumarSK7
      @ShubhamkumarSK7 2 года назад

      @@shyamprakash9050 lmao

    • @claggor1070
      @claggor1070 2 года назад +3

      Yeah he clearly butchered the primogeovishap run

    • @Unforgiving_Eye
      @Unforgiving_Eye 2 года назад +12

      Really? People were still having a problem with childe's cooldown? xD bruh

    • @fumaye5066
      @fumaye5066 2 года назад +40

      Nah, iwtl is still biased against Childe. He let Ayato fight pyro regisvine but for Childe it's cryo regisvine lol. He also used venti which works better for Ayato's E range and burst. He didn't want to use kazuha because he knows kazu is better for Childe 😂 typical iwtl

  • @DangoShogun
    @DangoShogun 2 года назад +119

    Hello IWTL ! I've been wondering if you could make us an updated tier list video ! Considering the reruns I really wanna see where Itto lands in your tier list

    • @tigerxxd
      @tigerxxd 2 года назад +9

      i dont think anyone that has came out in the past few months is better than itto

    • @xoi69
      @xoi69 2 года назад +2

      s tier dps absolutely sure

    • @yvene1406
      @yvene1406 2 года назад +9

      I think its much better for IWTL to make one once there is a full rerun update so there's more time to wait for new characters :o

    • @azizsetyawan3038
      @azizsetyawan3038 2 года назад

      Hm... Even with the help of xingqiu battery to boost childe brust up time, he still not manage to surpass ayato
      I think ayato have twice in terms of power compared to Childe
      Also maybe it's because the powercreap that mihoyo mostly did to release and hyping the new characters

    • @nevermore6540
      @nevermore6540 2 года назад +5

      C0 itto At the very least top 5 overall tier I think. His artifacts and weapon are too broken for him, and mono geo are ridiculously broken too.
      3 things above him are raiden, benny, kazu and dongli.

  • @ayames5297
    @ayames5297 2 года назад +8

    the bias is always way too strong on this one. at least try to be more subtle about it

    • @daisuke6353
      @daisuke6353 2 года назад +5

      Exactly bruh he hates childe 🤡

  • @ohmybrowncow
    @ohmybrowncow 2 года назад +71

    I read somewhere that Ayato has an internal cooldown for transformative reactions on his NA's which would make sense Childe winning at downing Pyro shielding faster. Is that true?

    • @KamisatoElias
      @KamisatoElias 2 года назад +9

      There are 2 cool-downs that occur with Ayato and most characters. One is every 3 hits an element can be applied, and the other is every 2.5 seconds an elemental is applied. Because Ayato attacks so quickly these cool-downs overlap so his elemental application isn’t too shabby. So he might end up applying hydro on the 3rd and 5th hit, as 2.5 seconds elapses on his 5th attack.

    • @starlitfireflies9195
      @starlitfireflies9195 2 года назад +32

      yes, ayato has standard icd; I believe childe does have icd on his autos, but his charge attack and riptide aren’t counted in the same cooldown as his autos which is why he applies so much hydro

    • @Ben-vg6ox
      @Ben-vg6ox 2 года назад +3

      It's not just the ICD but also less sources of hydro because he cannot charged attack and doesn't have Riptide
      All of which have independent ICDs on Childe

    • @infine-8222
      @infine-8222 2 года назад +2

      @@Ben-vg6ox TBH lack of CA doesn't matter here. One-handed sword CAs are on the same ICD counter as NAs. Only polearms and catalysts are consistent in keeping ICD for CAs and NAs separate. Childe and his melee stance is a sample size of one, and bows are inconsistent with their CAs (Diona exists).

    • @Ben-vg6ox
      @Ben-vg6ox 2 года назад

      @@infine-8222 oh really? Normal attacks and charged attacks aren't independent for sword users?

  • @steliosv8729
    @steliosv8729 2 года назад +4

    If you ever have the time it would be really fun seeing a dps showdown with electro Keqing, a cryo Keqing (with Chongyun) and a pyro Keqing (with Bennet)

  • @tylerhall1330
    @tylerhall1330 2 года назад +9

    The world would break if these two ever met.

    • @Unforgiving_Eye
      @Unforgiving_Eye 2 года назад

      Nah, the world will become wet if these two ever met 😂

    • @fishbol478
      @fishbol478 2 года назад

      Well thoma and childe have already met so it seems possible 🤔

  • @sweatymobilegamer784
    @sweatymobilegamer784 2 года назад +9

    Not sure how IWTL is calculating them, but here are what I believe are more accurate DMG potential figures:
    Childe
    Optimized (R5 Polar @ full stacks): 1 ATK%, 16 CR, 21 CD
    Final Stats: ~2569 ATK, 100CR%/275.4CD%, DPS "Score": ~9644
    IWTL Stats: ~2702 ATK, 78.5CR%/186.0CD%, DPS "Score": ~6647 (~68.9% potential)
    IWTL w/CR food Score: ~7652 (~79.3% potential)
    (ATK values count Polar Star's passive)
    Ayato
    Getting a "precise" calculation for this guy is WAY more complicated than with Childe, solely because his skill damage scales partly off of max HP.
    Means I pretty much need to crunch the numbers all the way to the actual outgoing damage. Anyways...
    Assumptions: 100% uptime on full Namisen stacks, 15 slashes, full stacks on R5 HGF, 50% C1 uptime, 100% C2 uptime, 100% burst uptime (not counting actual damage, just buff).
    For "optimized" build, will use 4pc Echoes at "expected" ~50.2% proc chance. C6 considered but does not trigger Echoes.
    NO team buffs considered.
    Total ATK-DMG scaling= (126.69%+141.11%+155.53%)*5 + 2*450% + (15*0.502*70%) = ~3544%, or ~3017% w/o Echoes
    Total HP-DMG scaling = 1.34%*5*15 = 100.5%
    Applicable average DMG bonus% w/ Echoes = 190.6%; w/ Glad: 225.6%
    Optimized Rolls: 2 ATK%, 5 HP%, 16CR, 20CD
    Final Stats: ~29350 HP, ~1910 ATK, 100CR%/306CD%
    Total Shunsuiken DMG (counting standard DEF/RES cuz why not): ~515993
    IWTL Stats: ~28927 HP, ~1823 ATK, 91.7CR%/215.8CD%
    Total Shunsuiken DMG: ~366944 (~71.1% potential)
    Total Shunsuiken DMG w/CR food: ~389008 (~75.4% potential)

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад

      He has a website with a potential dmg calculator, from my testing his calculator is quite accurate

    • @sweatymobilegamer784
      @sweatymobilegamer784 2 года назад +1

      @@haruyanto8085 well clearly it's not

  • @angelotorrelli7478
    @angelotorrelli7478 2 года назад +2

    The most useful part is the C0 comparison. This was exactly what I needed to decide if I must pull for bobba guy, thank you.

  • @digranes1976
    @digranes1976 2 года назад +18

    I’ve been waiting for this. I have both and Childes E cooldown/timer always gave me anxiety, so I never played him much. Ayato feels better.

  • @robotassassin2194
    @robotassassin2194 2 года назад +126

    _The ultimate showdown between two of the most moist DPS characters, where only the one with sheer grit and determination will win over the other, and prove them superior_
    and of course wet more people
    also do note that Childe’s constellations are basically useless while Ayato has his c6, 80% NA Bonus from Haran Geppaka Futsu, so at c0 for me Childe wins lol because snezhnaya man

    • @ieattacos68
      @ieattacos68 2 года назад +10

      @chelove4ek i doubt you ever listened to the video properly

    • @gunevionpaxroque622
      @gunevionpaxroque622 2 года назад +1

      @chelove4ek did u even watch the vid

    • @--6560
      @--6560 2 года назад +8

      @chelove4ek did u even watch the vid? c0 childe national beat ayato national

    • @asfduejs5813
      @asfduejs5813 2 года назад

      @@--6560 yeah that's why i think ayato is better using taser than vape

    • @abdhyasr8273
      @abdhyasr8273 2 года назад +8

      He said solo with out support with a weapon that literrally you cant use its passive and he still won ayato won 90 percent of the video i agree that child won in national but ayato won in every other situation

  • @sanjeethmahendrakar
    @sanjeethmahendrakar 2 года назад +46

    Lol I knew from the start that Ayato would win most of the DMG related categories because his cons are basically pure DMG increases unlike childe's cons which focus more on his QoL.
    And childe national team is good not because childe is a hydro unit but rather because he applies a shit ton of hydro for Xiangling compared to Ayato who can't keep up with her.

    • @deegutsy7574
      @deegutsy7574 2 года назад +16

      I heard that it's more of Xiangling can't keep up with Ayato's slashes since they are hella fast

    • @sharkscanplay2890
      @sharkscanplay2890 2 года назад

      @@deegutsy7574 his slashes are fast, but Icd fucks him
      kinda like yoimiya tbh

    • @lyg483
      @lyg483 2 года назад +14

      @@deegutsy7574 That makes no sense since Ajax applies hydro even faster than Ayato’s slashes

    • @sanjeethmahendrakar
      @sanjeethmahendrakar 2 года назад +2

      @Félix I think tartaglia has 3 main sources by which he applies hydro. Two of which are the usual normal and charged attacks but the third are his Riptide procs which also deal and apply AoE hydro.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +6

      @@lyg483 Ayato has standard ICD he literally can't tho

  • @Kaseus-lq7cj
    @Kaseus-lq7cj 2 года назад +8

    Lol the glaring prejudice. In the ganyu vs xiao vid when ganyu kept losing, it was all consolatory or neutral statements while here a celebration has to be called for the winners and losers

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +1

      Yeah get rekt

    • @nurulsyhrh82
      @nurulsyhrh82 2 года назад +1

      He hates childe so.. it is obv at this point lolololol too funny 😂😔

  • @jokesonu3412
    @jokesonu3412 2 года назад +3

    No surprise here, the first Hydro DPS vs a Hydro enabler with Nuke potential

  • @Stellaria-
    @Stellaria- 2 года назад +3

    this video actually answers so many questions for those people who keeps saying which is better and bash the others
    they dont share the same role, childe is a driver who is best at applying hydro for xiangling to deal insane vape damage, while ayato is a main dps which the damage mostly comes from his kit.
    ayato is more flexible to any team, while childe is mostly used for xianglings vape, and maybe taser for those who loves playing him in taser team.
    ive seen so many comments even saying ayato isnt a main dps and childe is a better dps, youtube comments recently feels like twitter🤦‍♀️

  • @HavntHeardofTheNameNamuinYears
    @HavntHeardofTheNameNamuinYears 2 года назад +5

    Mtashed is gonna love this video

  • @zefirnaya6238
    @zefirnaya6238 2 года назад +42

    Comparing them without teams makes zero sense tbh. Childe’s damage is very reliant on his nuke which has to be properly set up. Moreover, he’s not even meant to be played as a hypercarry like in this showcase. He’s an enabler and a nuker. His cons suck as well

    • @Sami-dy8lk
      @Sami-dy8lk 2 года назад +13

      Did u watch the full video?
      He compared them as hypercarry .
      Childe with national team.
      And At C0.

    • @nexuhs.
      @nexuhs. 2 года назад +4

      @@Sami-dy8lk But did you also saw when he compared without a team?
      That's what he's referring to

    • @Sami-dy8lk
      @Sami-dy8lk 2 года назад +1

      @@nexuhs. OK but what is the part about Zero sense?

    • @nexuhs.
      @nexuhs. 2 года назад +4

      @@Sami-dy8lk If you compare characters without teams, the results will be better 1- If your characters is a Phys damage dealer like eula since they don't rely on reactions or 2- Your character doesn't have an elemental nuke that can largely benefit from a teammate which is Tartaglias case.
      There are characters that benneffit more from having a team like Tartaglia, Ganyu, HuTao since they have easy acess to multiplictive reactions.
      The fact that ayato attacks fast with low atk multipliers makes him fall into this 2nd less team dependent scenario
      Good cause less dependent
      Bad cause not much unlockable potential trough a team
      If you do abyss with 1 character, Ayato will surelly be better. But who's doing abyss with 1 character?

    • @Sami-dy8lk
      @Sami-dy8lk 2 года назад +1

      @@nexuhs. I mean this is a comparison video and it doesn't hurt to see a solo Showcase.

  • @ikapika
    @ikapika 2 года назад +5

    using venti and calling it international childe is a bit misleading imo. kazuha would make 12-1 much different in this case.

  • @ARMYALEX1869
    @ARMYALEX1869 2 года назад +6

    Great video. I'm glad you're able to remain partial in this comparison despite hating Childe.
    8:40 why did you make childe aim a charged shot at the maguu kenki instead of using his E?

    • @blueoop
      @blueoop 2 года назад

      polar star buff

    • @ARMYALEX1869
      @ARMYALEX1869 2 года назад +3

      @@blueoop yeah charged attack adds a stack but so does normal attack and elemental skill damage which takes less time than charging a shot.

    • @ZedekiahNS
      @ZedekiahNS Год назад

      @@ARMYALEX1869 each action adds a independent stack. Skill gives one, charge gives one and so on

  • @JadeZen520
    @JadeZen520 2 года назад +21

    I honestly don't think Polar Star was a great weapon to use for the Solo Showcase. Thundering Pulse seems way better for that part

  • @HSRFirefly
    @HSRFirefly 2 года назад +2

    I love how there are 2 different parts of the showdown.. f2p and whale so that we have a clear indication of what is the better one at C0 and who is better at C6. I would be hopeful to see this types of comparison on future videos. Keep it up!

  • @Mei_mcz
    @Mei_mcz 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you! I enjoyed watching this☺️
    1:08- 1:10 😂 I love this so much and haven’t even gotten to the main part of the video
    2:08 What??!!🤯 He just died😅😭
    6:41
    9:23 😂 The tall boys (Abyss lectors)
    11:25 😂I love this so much!
    13:31 Pyronado just short of wiping out floating treasures hoarders😅😓
    15:53 Tartaglia is shredding that lizard with that team🤯!

  • @andresmorales9773
    @andresmorales9773 2 года назад +4

    You make me doubt
    because Tartaglia is one of my six favorite characters and I don't have him, I've been saving for him, but Ayato arrived and I quite liked the character's gameplay and I thought about pulling for him. and as a F2P I don't know what to do now.

    • @CristalMarie
      @CristalMarie 2 года назад +3

      are you looking to set a speedrun record in Abyss? yes? then go for Childe. Are you looking to own a great hydro dps to have fun with AND clear Abyss? Then legit, just go for whoever you want to actually play and love to look at or interact with. The point is they’re both fun and competitive and worst case scenario u have 2 tall hydro dudes to play with!

  • @corbitaalexian7411
    @corbitaalexian7411 2 года назад +12

    IWinToLose why was childe's salad cryo while ayatos was pyro

    • @Lemoneli
      @Lemoneli 2 года назад +6

      cryo and pyro salads both have the same resistance to hydro

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +2

      As other commenters said, 10% hydro resistance regardless, elements only help break the shield and he only started the timer after the shield is broken

    • @corbitaalexian7411
      @corbitaalexian7411 2 года назад +1

      @@Lemoneli oh I see2 I didnt know that

  • @nightingail10
    @nightingail10 2 года назад +1

    i love all your nicknames for everything the titles of ayato and childe are killing me

  • @KhaiLM
    @KhaiLM 2 года назад +2

    All these people in the comments fighting about who's better meanwhile I'm here using both of them in the same team

  • @nexuhs.
    @nexuhs. 2 года назад +4

    Missed the real scenario:
    *C0 Team on Abyss 12*

    • @harizu_5182
      @harizu_5182 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/TE_0mnpR5m4/видео.html

  • @sujikoo3320
    @sujikoo3320 2 года назад +4

    this is why i think their still different. ayato is more like a dps with a ganyu like supporting burst, i think it's better to build a team around him that increases his dmg output. while i see most of the childe team use him as a driver, being almost chained with xiangling. what makes childe good is that he synergize so well with on of the most powerful sub dps in the game.

  • @xxdeadshotxx6849
    @xxdeadshotxx6849 2 года назад +7

    Ayato at c6 is stronger than childe but at 0 constellation childe is better

  • @orezzyy
    @orezzyy 2 года назад +9

    childe better
    fight me!!

    • @TaaranDhaliwal
      @TaaranDhaliwal 2 года назад

      childe mid

    • @orezzyy
      @orezzyy 2 года назад +3

      @@TaaranDhaliwal u are mid

    • @TaaranDhaliwal
      @TaaranDhaliwal 2 года назад

      @@orezzyy aww mad? stay mad 🤡

    • @enadman2334
      @enadman2334 2 года назад +6

      You’re right! Childe is better

    • @orezzyy
      @orezzyy 2 года назад +1

      @@TaaranDhaliwal why would i stay mad? c0 childe can easily hit 1 mil while ayato's dmg barely passes 100k
      AHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH

  • @My6119
    @My6119 2 года назад +31

    C6 Childe is like a C0.5 due to lack of damage boosts

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +1

      His C4 gives quite a dmg boost tho

    • @My6119
      @My6119 2 года назад +1

      @@haruyanto8085 yeah I recall, but it makes using him as a burst dps harder, I could be wrong.

    • @shachede6828
      @shachede6828 2 года назад

      his c4 is powerful, can't want to get that c4

    • @My6119
      @My6119 2 года назад +1

      @@shachede6828 wait*

    • @guyschill2059
      @guyschill2059 2 года назад +9

      @@haruyanto8085 They gave him 1 con that actually boosts his damage but they made it so that it can mess up your vape

  • @voices0000
    @voices0000 2 года назад +6

    that 380k "f2p" childe crit had me scratching my head for a bit.
    turns out C2+ Kazuha is pretty good.

    • @sekkusupisutoruzu
      @sekkusupisutoruzu Год назад

      I'm f2p and my childe can hit 300k, 80k more damage is just a couple more weeks of artifact farming away, but I can't afford all that resin nowadays since I've been building Itto, Cyno, Nahida, Alhaitham and basically every other support for them in the game.

  • @raychumon
    @raychumon 2 года назад +16

    i'm gonna be a childe main forever simply because he's my favourite character in all of genshin, but i pulled ayato too so now i'm just gonna have 2 tall hydro husbando teams

  • @KazeSenseii
    @KazeSenseii 2 года назад +4

    Hi IWinToLose! I'm a huge fan. I love your in-depth videos and analysis. Would you ever consider an Anemo vs Geo vs Electro Traveler DPS Showdown?

  • @yaemiko9969
    @yaemiko9969 2 года назад +3

    C6 comparison obviously ayato is better.
    C0 is the real comparison.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад

      And at "c0" Ayato won first round by 20s and Childe won second round by 3s

    • @jonathan91701
      @jonathan91701 2 года назад

      @@haruyanto8085 well,im not using a charcater solo,so i wold take a c0 childe every time

  • @Kcaedenn
    @Kcaedenn 2 года назад +6

    Why not make Childe fight the pyro Regisvine like Ayato?

    • @ki_dochannel93
      @ki_dochannel93 2 года назад +6

      Both Regisvines have the same 10% resistance to hydro.

    • @kae.jj.
      @kae.jj. 2 года назад +2

      it will be the same result my guy as the person above said both have the same hydro resistance

  • @hwebster
    @hwebster 2 года назад +2

    I've had to rely on Mona and Xinqiu since the beginning of the game for hydro application. Never cared for Childe and was tempted to pull for Kokomi, but I'm glad I held out for Ayato. In any situation where Childe or Kokomi would be better for hydro application (national/vapes), I can still rely on Xinqiu, but I'm more than happy to replace Mona. I'm thrilled to see he's at least matching Childe in damage. Makes those 150+ wishes feel more worthwhile.

  • @amalinia09
    @amalinia09 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video! I quite like that they're both characters that have their pros and cons and specific teams.
    But can I just say, out of the two of them, Childe's scarf is the most fabulous XDDD

  • @guesswho8947
    @guesswho8947 2 года назад +6

    Considering i'm never going to C6 a character, i guess i'll just keep my childe

  • @sillylittlebaby1815
    @sillylittlebaby1815 2 года назад +4

    IWTL : "Rust R5 seems relatable for F2P"
    Me who didn't have a single Rust since day 1 : "yes, completly relatable"

    • @frostbirb5656
      @frostbirb5656 2 года назад

      ive been a childe main since his release and i still dont have it. I got a 5☆ bow before rust :,)

    • @darinagaff8139
      @darinagaff8139 2 года назад

      He used r1 rust in video if I'm not mistaking

  • @DYSPROGENSHIN
    @DYSPROGENSHIN 2 года назад +2

    This opportunity is quite hard to come by.Well then. You amused me ...Your strength is praiseworthy.
    I, too, shall use all of mine...
    So... don't you dare disappoint me
    Foul Legacy - The Devouring Deep!

  • @caydenscloset3695
    @caydenscloset3695 2 года назад +5

    This is so sad :(( my first five star character and main for basically over a year has been totally powercrept by a rich guy drinking boba

    • @Nhyufll
      @Nhyufll 2 года назад +1

      Well is a difference how they started doing constellations by making them horribly broken at c6 in comparison to older characters generally speaking eula was the first character with a massive difference and i guess xiao was up there but inzuma has alot of room between c0 and c6

  • @applyinggaming9529
    @applyinggaming9529 2 года назад +20

    kind of thought the difference would be so big since constellations of older characters like childe zhongli venti are not that good.

    • @Jaz-tk5vx
      @Jaz-tk5vx 2 года назад +24

      Yeah, they definitely got better at making early constellations more appealing. Older characters often have the “issue” of their only good constellation being C6, but Mihoyoversity realized they could tempt a lot of low spenders into going for C1 or C2 if they were appealing enough.
      I’d say it worked well for them, financially. C2 Raiden, C2 Kazuha and even C2 Ayaka could be used as examples.

    • @giulia1361
      @giulia1361 2 года назад +6

      @@Jaz-tk5vx C2 Ayaka isnt worth it though. Its C4.

    • @Goro_Maj1ma
      @Goro_Maj1ma 2 года назад +2

      @@giulia1361 c2 Ayaka is nice imo, but yeah not on the level of some of the other c2s.

    • @yuurai
      @yuurai 2 года назад +2

      @@giulia1361 It's still worth it for multi-target, speedruns, fast cryo application (hu tao melt), and shield shredding. Her C2 is something to really consider getting if you're into these things. When Ayaka is played right with her C2 it's translates to 25-30% dps increase. Not as OP as Raiden's or Kazuha's C2, but still a very good constellation.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад

      Wdym it is big? He literally beat Childe at almost all, he didn't win at nuke cuz his elemental skill actually does more dmg than his nuke, if we combined both dmg numbers it'd go over 1.6mil

  • @dtsubera
    @dtsubera 2 года назад +6

    You forgot to vaporize each childes burst. Its easy to do & you’d clear salad with one burst even with normal attacks build

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +3

      He did? But if we use vape team then it's mostly xiangling showcase

    • @nexuhs.
      @nexuhs. 2 года назад +7

      @@haruyanto8085 if other characters can't make Xiangling do that, then it's not a Xiangling showcase

    • @harizu_5182
      @harizu_5182 2 года назад

      @@haruyanto8085 the thing is chide is enabler

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад

      @@harizu_5182 yes I agree but it's not a perfect scenario vs perfect scenario

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад

      @@nexuhs. yeah which is why it'd be a xiangling vape showcase vs Ayato sometimes vaping with xiangling showcase

  • @Ugn98
    @Ugn98 2 года назад +11

    I live Ayato more but it was unfair because Childe had to fight Cryo regisvine not Pyro regisvine like Ayato

    • @rys6351
      @rys6351 2 года назад +2

      I was confused about that aswell

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +5

      Regisvine has 10% hydro resistance regardless, elements only help break the shield, he started the timer only after the shield is broken
      It's not unfair, it's perfectly fair, what's unfair is that you're making accusations and assumptions without actually knowing the topic

    • @yuusha2150
      @yuusha2150 2 года назад +1

      Bruh...
      Both regisvine have the same stats of resistance.
      The only difference is how you break their elemental shield.

  • @juanstar
    @juanstar 2 года назад +7

    Hoyoverse should decide whether to scrap ICD in it's entirety or apply it for all characters.

    • @lil_toro
      @lil_toro 2 года назад +1

      Their ICD policy is what keeping the newer 5 stars from completely powercreeping the older ones...

    • @juanstar
      @juanstar 2 года назад

      @@lil_toro which means I'll have to keep using Xiangling if I want a strong and meta team? I don't enjoy her playstyle nor design.

    • @lil_toro
      @lil_toro 2 года назад +1

      @@juanstar that's a personal preference and completely acceptable...but it doesn't change the fact that she, Xingqiu and Benny always had our back, especially low spenders and f2ps, hoyo will probably mimic their kit on hydro / Pyro archons, but they will always be the OGs of "Meta"

  • @ian59
    @ian59 2 года назад +4

    While Ayato can't compete with Childe for F2P national it should be stressed that not everyone can spare their Bennett, Xiangling, or Kazuha. If you're having to build a 2nd team Tazer can be an attractive option and I think Ayato is strong in that team, particularly when you're talking single target boss scenarios. Not to mention that Ayato has much better potential for expansion if in a year or so you end up getting some constellations on him. So let's say hypothetically they were perfectly tied for Tazer at C0 in every other respect, I would still give the edge to Ayato for being able to upgrade better.

  • @cbalinefourcba4615
    @cbalinefourcba4615 2 года назад +9

    So, basically, if you are F2P or low budget who will be sticking with C0 and 4 stars weapon, Childe is still very much a viable choice/ is in various case still better than Ayato, ya?

    • @netizen8080
      @netizen8080 2 года назад +5

      Yep that's right

    • @fluffy_magnus
      @fluffy_magnus 2 года назад +4

      not rly? I've had childe since his first run and rust is not THAT good on him. f2p bows are quite awful compared to swords and r5 rust just messes up ur cr/cdmg ratio soo much sigh. he also can utilize only one artifact set meanwhile ayato can have like 4 or 5. ayato also has cdmg ascension and cr/cdmg ascension is better than hydro ascension. childe is also more of a selfish dps so if u want hydro supports u would still have to pull kokomi or mona for example, but ayato can do both. but then again childe has his international team so 🤷 in my eyes ayato is more f2p friendly even simply bc of the lack of good f2p bows.

    • @nexuhs.
      @nexuhs. 2 года назад +1

      Basically C0 Childe is better
      He also forgot to do C0 Team Abyss... That would be the real scenario

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +4

      Both are a viable choice, Childe is better in vape team due to his ICD tho, you can check RUclips for proper c0 showcases, since IWTL's Childe was actually at c6, and thus dealt more dmg than a real c0 Childe, tho still at c0 the difference is very small, so you can actually pick whoever you like

    • @CristalMarie
      @CristalMarie 2 года назад

      @@nexuhs.C0 Childe is better… IF you own C2 Kazuha and main Xiangling.

  • @randomness2254
    @randomness2254 2 года назад +4

    At least this guy do some extensive tests on characters unlike that other content creator who simps on xiangling 24/7 lol

  • @Readseed
    @Readseed 2 года назад +13

    Feel like it is a bit unfair that you use Childe melee Burst for the C0 showdown, it doesn't usually come back up for the 2nd rotation due to energy issues and Childe has always done a lot of damage up front so the time doesn't really favor Ayato

    • @Lukewarmpissss
      @Lukewarmpissss 2 года назад +5

      full use of kit = unfair?

    • @Readseed
      @Readseed 2 года назад +5

      @@Lukewarmpissss Fair for speedrunning for sure, but that section is meant to be more F2P relatable. For normal F2Ps we don't use melee Childe Burst because we don't 1 shot the Abyss chamber and we need the energy refund from Range Burst to use it again in the 2nd rotation.

    • @Lukewarmpissss
      @Lukewarmpissss 2 года назад +4

      @@Readseed he literally is comparing the time taken to decide who is better so its not unfair to use the whole kit. Its not like its gonna be devastating if u use the melee ult.

    • @reonaranara
      @reonaranara 2 года назад +1

      I mean... for Childe, whether you use melee burst or not depends on whether you can vape the burst and whether you can clear it in a single rotation. If both of those are true, I would also use melee burst, even though I’m at C0.
      And the extra damage from melee burst would be made up in one or two xiangling pyronado swings anyway, so still not enough for Ayato to win.

  • @amberstone5986
    @amberstone5986 2 года назад +3

    but I don't think that an c0 rust Childe will do that big of a nuke..

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад

      Yes he explained it, his Childe is stuck at c6 so he has to simulate a c0 Childe, and he further clarifies that his Childe is dealing more dmg due to C4 and that a real c0 would be lower in dmg than this Childe

  • @originzera7771
    @originzera7771 2 года назад +3

    I don't think you should take Tony To's video for comparison. Try it with your Ayato team and Childe International and I'd say Childe International would have a better clear time. Kazuha and Sucrose exist in the team for the sole purpose of grouping them all together. For AoE, I think it is pretty obvious that you need Venti for Ayato to get quadratic scaling, Childe doesn't and that there is the difference. Finally at last, none of Childe's cons are really important or a damage-boost and mostly just QoL, so all that in mind, even at c0 he can compete with a c6 Ayato should tell everything.
    Not to say Ayato is bad, if we don't consider vaporize team, Ayato can be better for freeze and taser but I believe Childe is being severely underestimated here, in fact, Ayato is nowhere close to Childe for AoE and vape/nuke at c0. That said, I think both are good but if you have Childe then Ayato is not necessary which I think by now most people should have Childe?

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +1

      He took the best time he can find, he explained why, his Childe is one of the best in global tho
      In the "c0" showcase we had a c6r5 Childe vs a c0R1 Ayato, Ayato won in solos by 20s, while with teams Childe won by 3 secs, a real c0 Childe would only be about 1 or 2 secs faster than c0 Ayato, but overall Ayato would do more dmg due to his CDs, he can output more consistent dmg, only in vape would Childe have the edge but you'd need Kazuha and Xiangling in the team

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад

      He used venti cuz he needed to group the enemies to test their hydro application, Ayato's slashes is aoe and Childe's atk isn't, so to properly test them used venti

  • @philologusopin47us57
    @philologusopin47us57 2 года назад +3

    As a F2P player its hard for me to decide if I take Ayato now, or save up for the 100'th Childe rerun 🤔.
    For F2P both seem to be kinda at the same lvl (considering I get the 5* weapons and maybe a C1 over time).
    Then it ultimately comes down to who is more interesting to play.
    But its hard to decide that as well, because I find swords more interesting to play than bows. On the other hand Childe uses some kind of dual wielding dagger style inbetween, which seems more interesting and mechanically demanding than standing still and holding E with Ayato...

    • @TaaranDhaliwal
      @TaaranDhaliwal 2 года назад

      ik its late but based on gameplay, ayato is way better

    • @enadman2334
      @enadman2334 2 года назад

      Childe and Ayato might get a rerun, Assuming your f2p, Childe is way better

  • @lilbirdmuse8938
    @lilbirdmuse8938 2 года назад +5

    “Childe is still king of Childe international”
    I mean…it’d be a lil concerning if he wasn’t. Lol

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 2 года назад +1

      Fr, that's literally the only area he can compete in against Ayato

    • @hydroarchon5697
      @hydroarchon5697 2 года назад +1

      @@haruyanto8085 compete? International at f2p level destroys any ayato teams lmao. Well i guess just get c6 ayato yeah?

    • @TaaranDhaliwal
      @TaaranDhaliwal 2 года назад

      @@hydroarchon5697 copium

    • @fansim6110
      @fansim6110 2 года назад

      @@TaaranDhaliwal lol its fact, prove ur midyato beats it?

    • @TaaranDhaliwal
      @TaaranDhaliwal 2 года назад

      @@fansim6110 also barely wins in the video 💀