This is definitely true for me as an intp. I have had an incredibly difficult time finding a position where I can analyze or advise to help improve the system. Most jobs are production, creation, or customer service oriented. I have taken many jobs that are either mindless repetition or customer service oriented and hated them. I've struggled with procrastination and motivation of creative projects and never finish them because I find it incredibly difficult to envision beforehand how something should be. I am much better at taking something as it is and poking holes in it or figuring out how it could be better. Thanks for this it's helpful in understanding where I should be focusing my energy in improving my employment situation. Poor employment has been a primary concern for me and a source of immense struggle and frustration. Also, do more Intp videos I value your deep insight!
@@ErikThor I spent almost a decade combine in customer service you would be surprised how we can cope with the interpersonal requirements of the industry. I personally ran experiments on random customers for my own amusement and the more unstable a "customer" was in a given situation brought a sick joy to me and I wore it all over my face with a classic shit eating grin.
If you could be in our mind for a mere moment you would clearly and concisely realize were we are putting forth our most work 90% of our energy. Sometimes I wish I could shut my brain off perhaps a cu-tip forcefully inserted in the ear canal would do the job...
Don't do that! I used cheap Q-tips like 2 years ago, and the cotton dislodged in my ear, $600 hospital fee to have cotton pulled out of my ear and some very amused doctors who were eager to shame me; granted I totally deserved it and it was well warranted, but it was an expensive lesson. Anyway, I understand what you're referring to. It's crazy how long I can be absorbed in my head, at least 5 hours at a time, multiple times a day, and sometimes up to 12. It can be terrible for your health but that doesn't mean much when you're chasing an idea, at least not enough to override the desire to uncover some new truth or patterned connection. A lot of people do have this notion that we're "lazy" because they can't see what we're doing yet when we say something that blows everyone out of the water, they wonder how we came to that conclusion. Often I'm just in my head, absorbing constant new information and creating new projects/ideas/systems. I keep track of a lot of them through notebooks, but I have so many that I'm unsure of the total and often the notes are separated into various notebooks because I like to see everything out at once and work from there. Plus I can easily bounce from one project to another until I create a loop of ongoing projects. Fun? Yes. A great presentation to show someone when they want to know what you've been up to? Eh, not as much as you'd hope. I definitely hate abiding by a structure, but I love creating them. I guess that's kind of humorous. I'm an INTP, but I also have diagnosed A.D.D. so the lines can blur for me, where to separate the two, but it seems like a lot of INTPs have ADD tendencies, even if they don't have ADD. Our "aloofness" combined with our ability to "hyperfocus" and latch on to a topic of interest can be so intense, it is quite hurtful when others not only can't relate to you on that level but worse accuse you of "being lazy" or "wasting your time". Thankfully, I've found more in-depth friends to appreciate the benefit of exchanging ideas. My best friend is an ENFP and although she doesn't understand my nature entirely, she's incredibly in-depth and reflective. She pulls me to be more social when I need it, and I provide her with a calming introvert environment when she needs it. (She's an extravert but also an introvert; it's not that she's okay with whatever, it's that she desperately needs both. I find that to be true of a lot of ENFPs I meet actually, haha). Anyway, it's a symbiotic relationship. ENFP is a more common personality type than ours, so you may do well to look into talking to a few more ENFPs if you can. Truly though, the right people make all the difference in the world. Good luck!
Oh my this is so clarifying, makes so much sense for me now, thanks Erik so much
This is definitely true for me as an intp. I have had an incredibly difficult time finding a position where I can analyze or advise to help improve the system. Most jobs are production, creation, or customer service oriented. I have taken many jobs that are either mindless repetition or customer service oriented and hated them. I've struggled with procrastination and motivation of creative projects and never finish them because I find it incredibly difficult to envision beforehand how something should be. I am much better at taking something as it is and poking holes in it or figuring out how it could be better. Thanks for this it's helpful in understanding where I should be focusing my energy in improving my employment situation. Poor employment has been a primary concern for me and a source of immense struggle and frustration. Also, do more Intp videos I value your deep insight!
Wow, INTP in customer service, sorry to hear about that!
@@ErikThor I spent almost a decade combine in customer service you would be surprised how we can cope with the interpersonal requirements of the industry. I personally ran experiments on random customers for my own amusement and the more unstable a "customer" was in a given situation brought a sick joy to me and I wore it all over my face with a classic shit eating grin.
If you could be in our mind for a mere moment you would clearly and concisely realize were we are putting forth our most work 90% of our energy. Sometimes I wish I could shut my brain off perhaps a cu-tip forcefully inserted in the ear canal would do the job...
Don't do that! I used cheap Q-tips like 2 years ago, and the cotton dislodged in my ear, $600 hospital fee to have cotton pulled out of my ear and some very amused doctors who were eager to shame me; granted I totally deserved it and it was well warranted, but it was an expensive lesson. Anyway, I understand what you're referring to. It's crazy how long I can be absorbed in my head, at least 5 hours at a time, multiple times a day, and sometimes up to 12. It can be terrible for your health but that doesn't mean much when you're chasing an idea, at least not enough to override the desire to uncover some new truth or patterned connection. A lot of people do have this notion that we're "lazy" because they can't see what we're doing yet when we say something that blows everyone out of the water, they wonder how we came to that conclusion. Often I'm just in my head, absorbing constant new information and creating new projects/ideas/systems. I keep track of a lot of them through notebooks, but I have so many that I'm unsure of the total and often the notes are separated into various notebooks because I like to see everything out at once and work from there. Plus I can easily bounce from one project to another until I create a loop of ongoing projects. Fun? Yes. A great presentation to show someone when they want to know what you've been up to? Eh, not as much as you'd hope. I definitely hate abiding by a structure, but I love creating them. I guess that's kind of humorous. I'm an INTP, but I also have diagnosed A.D.D. so the lines can blur for me, where to separate the two, but it seems like a lot of INTPs have ADD tendencies, even if they don't have ADD. Our "aloofness" combined with our ability to "hyperfocus" and latch on to a topic of interest can be so intense, it is quite hurtful when others not only can't relate to you on that level but worse accuse you of "being lazy" or "wasting your time". Thankfully, I've found more in-depth friends to appreciate the benefit of exchanging ideas. My best friend is an ENFP and although she doesn't understand my nature entirely, she's incredibly in-depth and reflective. She pulls me to be more social when I need it, and I provide her with a calming introvert environment when she needs it. (She's an extravert but also an introvert; it's not that she's okay with whatever, it's that she desperately needs both. I find that to be true of a lot of ENFPs I meet actually, haha). Anyway, it's a symbiotic relationship. ENFP is a more common personality type than ours, so you may do well to look into talking to a few more ENFPs if you can. Truly though, the right people make all the difference in the world. Good luck!
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