Not sure if you being serious or not. BJJ root is literally from Judo ground work. Judo actually has a special branch that focuses on ground called Kosen Judo. They are beast vs BJJ
I train Judo and it only took a little bit of wrestling practice to modify the GI techniques to work. There's also a lot of throws in Judo that ignore the GI entirely
Ehh I don’t think as much as one may think. Unless if the wrestlers have some type of submission grappling experience. Chael sonnen has talked about it on the joe rogan podcast, he said bjj is a wrestlers kryptonite. Wrestlers are known for not being good on there back, and get to focused on transitions and end up getting submitted. Really it depends which wrestlers I suppose but I personally think the bjj guys would win 7/10. I would rather see judo vs wrestling
@@austinrousee6729 I agree with you buddy... Well how about Catch Wrestling and JiuJitsu? According to the History a beef spikes between Catch and JJ back then!
Judo all the way. I like BJJ but Judo was the first martial arts I practice and is closer to my heart. Judo submissions are even more effective against opponents wearing say a jacket. Respect Judo.
I practice both, i love both, and i don't neglect the roots of bjj, they are judo roots, Kano Ju Jutsu or Kano Judo roots, bjj and judo are meant to be together, for all people talking about no gi Judo, the no gi part of bjj was the thing that most help me in the transition at the beginning, and even know i found very useful and efficient my judo on bjj.
@@jasonbone7161 Yes. First fight of the video above. Quintet 1 april 2018 "Haleo Dream Team". Quintet 2 July 2018 "Team Reebok". Quintet 3 October 2018 "Team Sakuraba".
@@TanomahTournethune Thanks for info. I met him several times in Guam and Hawaii 5 years and 10 years ago Now He looks so old and he is too old for these too !
The lack of gi is a disadvantage, but the overall rule set is also in favor of BJJ and catch wrestling. This is Judoka competing in what is a no-gi sub-only BJJ tournament.
I trained with and without a gi on and off for 25 years. I can get the same control and give the same education with rash guards, gi, clothing, hair, beard.........grab it and get it.
6:10 I'm perplexed by the lack of answers to a choke from guard from Tokoro, I I always hear they are easy to defend, and the guy has wins over big names like Royler Gracie. Is there something I don't see here ? And what were the best defensive options from him once the choke was established ?
I was thinking the same thing. But on the replay they showed him doing the defense I'd have thought was correct, which was elevating his hips... I think it came down to size difference, and the fact that he couldn't get his right arm between him and the guy's neck. I'm guessing this guy gets this choke (ezekiel) all the time. Curious to hear what other people think he should have done.
To act like this is not 2-2 is ridiculous. Ishii man-handled that guy. The idea that slamming someone into the mat and pinning them down the entire time being worth nothing; That's a pretty stupid concept/rule. These Judokas are competing in a rule set that specifically caters to bjj guys. The Judokas could have pinned and immobilized almost every one of the bjj guys, but they didn't attempt to because pinning isn't allowed or rewarded. I've seen a ton of Judokas compete in Nogi Jiu Jitsu, but not too many bjj guys ever compete in Judo Tournaments. They wouldn't do well.
I fucking hate Palhares for obvious moral reasons on holding the submissions for too long.... but he would crush it in this league. Literally crush every 🦵 knee and joint.
The score was 2 to 1. They should have fought the final round to see if it would have ended as a tie and then declare the winner. The rules were kind of lame in that matter. However, this is waaayyy more interesting to watch then normal bjj...good job Sakuraba
So the bottomline: Only 1 Judoka won because of his considerable weight advantage & the Olympic heavyweight Judo champion could not beat someone 20 kgs lighter and exhausted than him.
Ok well both of you shut up since most of these matches were draws and the other thing is he didn’t have Mitch of a considerable weight advantage at all stop hating on judo for no reason
@@michaelterrell5061 draws where your fat judokas outweighed their opp by as much as 20 kgs, what else do you consider an advantage You fuck off and stop being devotional to judo
Baby-faced Assassin AKA Blue-eyed Kenshiro AKA Philadelphia Jailbird AKA The Warmaster is looking good here, but I would DESTROY Josh Barnett 10 times out of 10... ... at rock, paper, scissors if i could choose to change my hand after he has shown his.
Japanese jujutsu is basically a combat version of judo. Anything that ended with "jutsu" is basically a combat version and anything that ended with "do" is the sport version. Like, jujutsu and judo, kenjutsu and kendo, akijutsu and akido, aikijutsu and aikido, ninjutsu and nindo. And anything that have "jutsu" is a Japanese cmbat technique from ancient age.
Eles não tem guarda(guarda z, guarda x, aranha, meia guarda profunda, não passam guarda, pegaram costa não soube usar costas no chão e ai vai. Jiu jitsu brasileiro e muito complexo e não e facil , eles todos lutavam judo clássico e judo também e derivado do Kano ju jutsu(jitsu).
Jesus these Judo guys are tough. I didn’t realise you could do those kind of throws no-gi. Good on the ground too.
Not sure if you being serious or not. BJJ root is literally from Judo ground work. Judo actually has a special branch that focuses on ground called Kosen Judo. They are beast vs BJJ
I did practice judo in 1990's japan and wrestling in USA, both are tuff but judo in Japan is something else
Wow, u CAN imagine those throws in the street on concrete, bloody hell, game over, the concrete does the rest, scary.
Well, of course you can!! hahah. It's a functional martial art...
I train Judo and it only took a little bit of wrestling practice to modify the GI techniques to work. There's also a lot of throws in Judo that ignore the GI entirely
I'm hooked on these videos.
Grappling is so legit.
Props to these fellas.
Some of these matches get me so pumped.
It is the best rules set i ever seen. Fights are interesting to watch! Thank you!
do you know where to see the other rounds? Team Sambo vs Team Polaris and then the final as well?
@@XBlack-oc6xt ufc fight pass
4:03 I could watch that shit on loop all day.
Olympic Team USA Wrestlers vs Team Jiu Jitsu World would be very interesting!
Ehh I don’t think as much as one may think. Unless if the wrestlers have some type of submission grappling experience. Chael sonnen has talked about it on the joe rogan podcast, he said bjj is a wrestlers kryptonite. Wrestlers are known for not being good on there back, and get to focused on transitions and end up getting submitted. Really it depends which wrestlers I suppose but I personally think the bjj guys would win 7/10.
I would rather see judo vs wrestling
@@austinrousee6729 I agree with you buddy... Well how about Catch Wrestling and JiuJitsu? According to the History a beef spikes between Catch and JJ back then!
Steelmonger888 the quinete has never made the rules like that. It’s a submission grappling tournament so that’s what it would be for wrestling vs BJJ.
Al Capone now that I would want to see.
@@austinrousee6729 If they stood to make good money, I think they'd find the motivation to work some submissions into their game.
Judo all the way. I like BJJ but Judo was the first martial arts I practice and is closer to my heart. Judo submissions are even more effective against opponents wearing say a jacket. Respect Judo.
I love judo too, i train some wrestling and bjj too for complementing.
I practice both, i love both, and i don't neglect the roots of bjj, they are judo roots, Kano Ju Jutsu or Kano Judo roots, bjj and judo are meant to be together, for all people talking about no gi Judo, the no gi part of bjj was the thing that most help me in the transition at the beginning, and even know i found very useful and efficient my judo on bjj.
Anyone else think Satoshi Ishii looks a bit like oddjob from the James Bond movie
Guy is build like a Sherman tank
The quintet rule set is similar to the Kosen Judo competition rule set if you don't win by ippon both athletes are out.
Great respect shown by both teams...great character!
04:04 best fake rolling leg lock to armbar I've ever seen.
my grappling erection is so hard right now
Fake Imanari Roll to Armbar.
Dude your profile pick matches your comment perfectly
4:30
I'd be so mad if I was the judoka, only because it's almost like not participating.
Amazing guard-passing movements there by Debana
holy crap that arm bar!
OMG an imanari armbar? Wow
Smooth as a ghost on roller skates
Mind blowing arm lock!!!!
To be fair Saku's age and gas tank showed there but I think he did really well. If I could do as well at his age I'd be chuffed.
you mean if you could be that good at any age... the man is a legend
@@XBlack-oc6xt oh for sure. He's great.
He’s also taken a lot of damage over the years
@@TheTommy9898 yeah, fighting with the weight disadvantages and against such monsters left him very battered.
no doubt one of the best ever. truly a legend if there ever was one.
Yoon dong sik
Legendary judoka
But he is too old for competition....
He is 47 ( 1972 )
Kazushi Sakuraba is 49 (1969)
@@TanomahTournethune
I know. Did he in this tournament ?
@@jasonbone7161
Yes. First fight of the video above.
Quintet 1 april 2018 "Haleo Dream Team".
Quintet 2 July 2018 "Team Reebok".
Quintet 3 October 2018 "Team Sakuraba".
@@TanomahTournethune
Thanks for info.
I met him several times in Guam and Hawaii 5 years and 10 years ago
Now He looks so old and he is too old for these too !
Well he did pull off an Ezekiel and won a match
Does judo train no gi? I feel like they are at a disadvantage because they always use gi.
The lack of gi is a disadvantage, but the overall rule set is also in favor of BJJ and catch wrestling. This is Judoka competing in what is a no-gi sub-only BJJ tournament.
I trained with and without a gi on and off for 25 years. I can get the same control and give the same education with rash guards, gi, clothing, hair, beard.........grab it and get it.
We dont, but dont always need it neither
@Lo pan how about a guy in a T-shirt and jeans?
Dojo rules. Team's problem.
That overtie, into imanari roll into arm bar is on another level!
Whats the name of this tournament? What are the set rule? Its looks awesome and more entertaining compare to the normal no-gi tournaments
what's the name of this competition? it looks awesome!
WOW Hideo pulled off TRUE PERFECTION.
Commentator doesn't know what an ezekiel choke is?
Walter Chee there is no choke with that name
Brazilian ju jujitsukas named it like that
@@karimsayed6292 everyone knows what an Ezekiel choke is lmao
@@renatolaranja52 He was just choking. I mean joking.
Sodeguruma jime
Finally a place where dong sik yoon who can show his true colors. Proud of him man!!!
that no gi tai otoshi off rip was beautiful...Watched it like 3 times
I’ve never seen that sweep at 10:15 before. Anyone knows what it is called? I’f like to look it up.
6:10 I'm perplexed by the lack of answers to a choke from guard from Tokoro, I I always hear they are easy to defend, and the guy has wins over big names like Royler Gracie. Is there something I don't see here ? And what were the best defensive options from him once the choke was established ?
I was thinking the same thing. But on the replay they showed him doing the defense I'd have thought was correct, which was elevating his hips... I think it came down to size difference, and the fact that he couldn't get his right arm between him and the guy's neck. I'm guessing this guy gets this choke (ezekiel) all the time. Curious to hear what other people think he should have done.
Whats the name of the competition? This is where its at!
I would love to see hidehiko yoshida fight for the judo team
Remember what happened when he fought Barnett and Gardner.
r or When he beat Royce
To act like this is not 2-2 is ridiculous. Ishii man-handled that guy. The idea that slamming someone into the mat and pinning them down the entire time being worth nothing; That's a pretty stupid concept/rule. These Judokas are competing in a rule set that specifically caters to bjj guys. The Judokas could have pinned and immobilized almost every one of the bjj guys, but they didn't attempt to because pinning isn't allowed or rewarded. I've seen a ton of Judokas compete in Nogi Jiu Jitsu, but not too many bjj guys ever compete in Judo Tournaments. They wouldn't do well.
Cool to see Judoka allowed to compete outside Judo
Damn that armbar by Tokoro though!
4:05 what a beautiful
nice headbutt at 1:33
Did your mother appeared at the video ?
@@karimsayed6292 get lost filth
Quintet is so cool!!!!
3:40 wow what a beautiful armbar.
This is really great
very cool, but thought satoshi ishii scored an ippon there (better argument than just wazari).
Judo techniques throw stace i be ready
I fucking hate Palhares for obvious moral reasons on holding the submissions for too long.... but he would crush it in this league. Literally crush every 🦵 knee and joint.
This is great
Muy buenas técnicas..oss
What do you call that first technique that Debana hits at 17 seconds into this video?
Tai otoshi
@@GatorsFan2138, thank you.
Why is it bjj/ catch? Who is who on the team?
The score was 2 to 1. They should have fought the final round to see if it would have ended as a tie and then declare the winner. The rules were kind of lame in that matter. However, this is waaayyy more interesting to watch then normal bjj...good job Sakuraba
Way more interesting to watch than BJJ and Judo
Ouch, that was veery close! Just another minute... You have the rest of the game upcoming?
Best rule set
This is awesome
Woah, great fights
2:20 The dude was possessed! XD
Man all these guys are crazy strong.
Josh barnett is the coach of jiu jitsu and catch wrestling team!
What's the name of this?
insane matches!!
surprisingly entertaining
no closed guard?
holy crap Hideo Tokoro went fucking O.G. ORIGINAL GANGSTER!!! DAMN!!!!
Barnett sporting an Inoki scarf!
Please let Satoshi back into the world judo stage and let's see Ishi vs Riner! :)
Grappling is like nascar. It’s boring to watch, it’s fun to do, it’s a chaotic thing when mixed with alcohol and you only know if you really know.
Excelentes las dos modalidades
beautiful BJJ is true rules thanks
동식햄 주짓수도 잘하시네.....
So the bottomline: Only 1 Judoka won because of his considerable weight advantage & the Olympic heavyweight Judo champion could not beat someone 20 kgs lighter and exhausted than him.
Ok well both of you shut up since most of these matches were draws and the other thing is he didn’t have Mitch of a considerable weight advantage at all stop hating on judo for no reason
@@michaelterrell5061 draws where your fat judokas outweighed their opp by as much as 20 kgs, what else do you consider an advantage
You fuck off and stop being devotional to judo
How are the judo guys this good when they only grab on to gis and never fight without them?
Where did you get that from?? they practice without Gi also
i dont know about other dojo. but we do train without gi, though there arent no gi competition over here. i think its a necessary part of training
@P C yes,ground work or ne waza is part of judo.
That's just a myth,I do newaza effectively without gi
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Nice format. Shame Ishii was slow and indecisive.
the first fight is Sakuraba who destroyed BJJ GRACIE'S BRO.S including Royce Gracie.
Souza is a beast.
동식이형 여전하시군요
The guy was just laying there on the bottom and his opponent still could not submit him. Smh.
Baby-faced Assassin AKA Blue-eyed Kenshiro AKA Philadelphia Jailbird AKA The Warmaster is looking good here, but I would DESTROY Josh Barnett 10 times out of 10...
... at rock, paper, scissors if i could choose to change my hand after he has shown his.
Não haviam lutadores piores para representar o Jiu Jiu Jitsu?
Catch shouldn't be lumped in with bjj..catch is a serious rival to bjj
where is jujitsu Japanese?
Japanese jujutsu is basically a combat version of judo. Anything that ended with "jutsu" is basically a combat version and anything that ended with "do" is the sport version. Like, jujutsu and judo, kenjutsu and kendo, akijutsu and akido, aikijutsu and aikido, ninjutsu and nindo. And anything that have "jutsu" is a Japanese cmbat technique from ancient age.
05:42 동식이형 Yoon Dong Sik
읭? 동식이 형이 왜 거기서 나와?
엥 윤동식 샘
**ghost on roller skates
사쿠라바 주짓수도 배웠군요. 프로레슬링만 한줄.
Japan vs korea
Jiu jitsu Brasileiro,esta longe isso.
como assim?
Eles não tem guarda(guarda z, guarda x, aranha, meia guarda profunda, não passam guarda, pegaram costa não soube usar costas no chão e ai vai. Jiu jitsu brasileiro e muito complexo e não e facil , eles todos lutavam judo clássico e judo também e derivado do Kano ju jutsu(jitsu).
@@edvmth entendi. Parece que o ne waza do judô ainda é limitado frente ao jiu jitsu. Eles tem que evoluir muito nesse aspecto.
@@edvmth Oi? Kano ju jutsu É o judô. E o brazilian jiu jitsu é derivado do judô.
@@thiago_grb6391 E o que é o BJJ frente a parte em pé do judô?
For bjj I hate that butt scoot shit. It’s pure laziness
동식이형 멋져~~~
高専柔道、今の七帝大が同じルールでやってるわ。
유도는 도복없으면 불리하긴 하겠네요.
동식이형 멋있다.
i don't like this half time for bigger opponents.
아니..동식이 형이 여기서 왜 나와.
But bjj is judo
Está chavo
동식이형!
Coloca os brasileiros mais ranqueados no Jiu pra ver japonês com a cara amassada air
Coloca os judocas medalhistas olímpicos e vamos ver quem vai amassar quem...
@@ricardokerscher Kkkk Satoshi Ishii é medalha de ouro e não conseguiu arrumar nada com o brasileiro aí 21kg mais leve kkkkk
@@bjjzs amassou... Só não conseguiu finalizar...
Good event, terrible commentators
Foreigner beats all Japenese
盧柏翔 Yoon Dong-Shik is Korean, the judo team members are international.
@Gasy Mercury Japanese are always racists haha
Brasilian jiu Jitsu os the Judo newaza
I already saw that armbar from standing position in judo world tournament
WTF is this?
Team Submission Grappling competition
why aren't there weight classes for the competitors lol