I got the Q earlier this year. Owned around 10 other cameras from various brands and I finally feel like I don't need anything else really. Found the perfect all around! 👌
Just got my Leica Q three months ago. Also have a plethora of other cameras, including Fuji X100V, Olympus Pen F & OM1, but there's just something about the Q. I love the minimalist menu, the fact that the rear screen doesn't flip up or out. It fulfills what I've been long looking for, a digital camera that gets as close as possible to my beloved and almost 50 year old 35mm Olympus OM10. This really is a case of 'less is more!...' I could care less about the video capabilities. The Q just slows everything down and makes every image an immersive experience. No front grips nor thumb grips for me. I love the minimalist aesthetic of the design. I love my Q, not because it is a Leica, rather for the purity of the photographic experience. Love your content.
Totally agree! I went thru a LOT of camera gear from mirrorless aps-c to full frame and finally ended up with the Q a few years ago and now…. I’m done! Very happy I landed on it. I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything. It’s perfect.
Pretty cool music in the intro. felt so fresh and new. 👌 The concept that you don't have GAS so you haven't found the right camera yet is spot on. I had that feeling with analog cameras when I bought my M6. Suddenly my GAS was gone.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome for me began with the advent of digital cameras, and because of my longtime experience with technology, I knew it would. From 1980 until 2001 I had only two film cameras and they were all I wanted and needed. Since 2001 I've had nearly 20 digital cameras as I tracked the progress of sensor technology. I'm down to two now: A Nikon D850 and a Leica Q. The Q is what makes me happiest I don't foresee buying any other cameras from here on out.
I have two cameras at the moment. Sony RX100M7 and Fujifilm X-T4 I purchased about a month ago. But these two don't seem like enough. I have this Leica lust which just won't go away. So i'm thinking about buying Leica Q. To me it doesn't make any sense, for example if I were to go on a trip X-T4 would seem a more logical choice to take with me, as it has 18-55 lens, which is more practical. But still no reasons can make this lust go away)))
Having recently purchased a lightly used Leica Q I can totally relate to this. I’m still getting to grips with the process and layout but the experience of taking photos with it is a real joy.
Isn’t it? I was very skeptical at first but it’s, like you said, a real joy :) Have you tried ultimate street mode with it? Ie: 1/500 shutter speed, f8 and set the lens on manual just slightly beyond 2m. Now you don’t have to think about focusing :)
@@frame-lines No I haven't thanks for the tip. I find myself experimenting more with this camera safe in the knowledge that my skills are currently way below the capability of the camera.
I did the same. I finally got a Leica Q after many cameras. It is my primary camera for most shoots. I then got an SL for my more professional work. Leica Q inspired me to go with the Leica brand.
Suffering G.A.S. addiction bad lol. Picked up a Sony Rx100M7 because Sony’s focus system intrigued me. Happened to attend an ex-president’s fund raiser and secret service didn’t bat an eye at the little gem. Everyone had cell phones. Me, a 24-200mm 20mp monster. Captured incredible images. So my GAS occasionally gets it right to acquire the right tool for a very specific role. My Q-P used for family documentation. SL2 paid work. Fuji XT3, Xpro1, XH1 personal projects and travel. Olympus TG-6 pool and beach. I have massive amounts of fun using all of my gear. Great video and a joy to watch. Cheers.
My GAS was huge for many years. I wanted to try every new camera out there. Switching systems every 6 months. I started noticing that I planned new kits from what I potentially would en up shooting. So i just said to myself, I can focus on one thing (family documentary) and everything would have to. So I sold everything I had and bought a Leica Q2. Surprisingly versatile camera and I havent GASed for several months now 😁 I think the GAS has moved on to my car though...
I used 1 camera and 1 lens for a year - my Leica M9 with a Voigrlander 40mm f1.4. It was a wonderful learning experience. However, I was grateful to use other cameras and lenses since then. My M9 is still my favorite camera since I know it so well. But, I also enjoy my Fuji X100 for ease of use, and my Canon Canonette 1.7 film camera. Thabks for the great video!
Expected to see the Q pop up in the next video based on Josh’s Insta story. GAS is alright as long as you sell the ones which don’t work for you before moving onto the next one, and not you’re chasing after the latest and greatest every month
Exactly - it depends on your end goal. If it’s just to collect gear then it’s a problem, but if your trying to find the right camera for a project then go for it imo
I really enjoyed this video, I was in the same shoes trying to find a camera that works for me x100v, xe4, GR iii etc. I’ve wanted the Q since 2017 when I decided against saving for an M240. I’ve had the Q for 2 weeks and I just love using it, 28mm is pretty wide but that 1.7 aperture really makes it quite versatile.
I feel like for GAS it comes down to your motivations, if you're acquiring stuff thinking it'll make you a better photographer then you'll have a problem. If you are acquiring stuff because you just like cameras, different perspectives and you're maximising your gear then GAS away! Love your photos as well!
That's a very good point. I know that, personally I just love so many aspects of photography that I want to try them all, and that unfortunately leads to me buying a lot of gear
@@frame-lines spent years just using T3 (35mm) because someone gave it to me when digital was supposed to be the second coming of Christ and everyone was ditching film (yea lucky me right place right time) People started making a fuss about my work so then I started thinking I was ‘important enough’ to start acquiring more gear. But it just confused things. And to this day I still get best results from same camera. Now have a digital but only end up taking it out when it’s low light and a flash is too intrusive. Q2 could work for me. Shoot Sony a7r4 and I don’t like it. Too many buttons. They get knocked and the settings change without warning and the menus are a pain in the arse.
Love the richness & depth of the internal bus shot. Thanks for the book recs. Yes I did feel guilty during covid when I seemed to have GAS however in hindsight I have ended up with a setup I am extremely happy with. I went from 1 camera 6 lenses to 2 cameras & 4 lenses but of a higher quality. Setup : Panasonic G9 with P Leica 8-18mm f2.8-4, P Leica 25mm f1.4 & Pana 35-100 f2.8, plus the rangefinder style GX9 & P Leica 15mm f1.7. (Oddly though my worst moment in photography, getting my Pana Leica 12-60 f2.8-4 stolen, was what eventually made me realise that I didnt need this in my setup as it was a compromise too far in IQ compared to the others).
Great shots and interesting opinion on Gear Acquisition Syndrome. I always feel a little bad for not being satisfied with what I have, but I really enjoy the journey of trying different gear and finding out what is important to me in photography.
Your video really resonated with me for a few reasons: I've been through a few cameras now and none of them made me love the process of taking a photograph; yes, the results were great a lot of the time, but somehow I didn't connect. Of course, people tell you it's not the camera , it's you and that's true up to a point. However, as a musician, I can say that the instrument really does matter, it takes you beyond your current experience and onto another level. Again, it has to suit you, it's an individual thing and it's up to you to bring the hidden depths out of it. I've always had a feeling that Leica is the one for me and now I'm going to test that out...thanks for the video±
At times gear acquisition syndrome bothers me. I have a Q1 since 2018 -just love the thing- but my basic professional gear is composed of two Ms (a 9 and a 10r) and at times I carry two medium format digital cameras in a Think Tank Airport with wheels. And on occasion a high speed Nikon. They suit my needs and the type of work I do. But even if I could buy each piece of gear at a reasonable price and mostly second hand I sometimes think that I have way more than what I need, that I can do with much less and that my work is not that special to justify such a spend. About the Q, it’s such a joy to use and so versatile that it’s the only thing I carry on holiday or when spending a day out. The tonality, the way it does highlights and shadows, the low light performance and the delicious sharpness of the lens make it the perfect camera.
I think it's important to find the right camera for you through trying different types. But, I also think it's important to note that some cameras require dedication to make that decision. Particularly medium format cameras can be difficult and unwieldy. I don't think anyone shoots medium format without some level of commitment to a more difficult process!
That's very true. However, sometimes i think you can feel it in your gut when a camera isn't right for you. One of my favourite cameras, the Mamiya645 is a pain to use, but I still loved the experience so much that i knew it was right for me, then seeing images back from it made it even more worthwhile.
Great video Shane. I recently got my own M2 back (CLA) and have enjoyed going out taking photos around Cork City. Waiting for a local photo shop to open so I can get the few rolls I’ve taken developed. Big fan of the channel 👍🏻😄
@@frame-lines I’ll be honest I am very new to it (used just iPhones for years) but I am learning a lot, hence the reason why I tune into the channel so much. I’ve got a Keks light meter to help me with the proper exposure, etc. The light in the city on a sunny day is a delight, and it’s fun composing a shot. Although it takes a few days to actually see the shot, from finishing a roll to processing and scanning, it is a nice surprise when it turns out well.
Thank you for the Q views, I own an X typ 113, bought it a years back to restrict my GAS, and restrict lens choice - loved it, never felt restricted. Added a visioflex, and enjoy that as it makes it more intuitive. Also own a Nikon Df, with a 50mm lens. Oddly those two appear to be all I need. I have one additional lens for the Df, but use it only in a very narrow set of circumstances. Which shows you, half the gear we buy, we do not genuinely need.
awesome vid mate cheers. After many many years not needing but wanting a leica I finally bought a brand spanking new shiney cute AF Q2. 14 days later I killed it at a laser light show. It's winging its way to German for a new sensor....not cheap, with a min 16 week turnaround. Anyway that's just the way it is. In the 14 days i had the Q2 I mostly loved it. The two things I wasn't in love with is the 47mp HUUUUGE too much for my needs, and the iso at 3200 is imho bad. So now i'm bidding on a used and damaged Q to see me til the 2 comes home. I do like the idea of smaller file sizes for sure. GAS I dunno, I kind of collect gear always have I love trying new and very old gear.
@@frame-lines :D really....now I own just my Leica Q, kind of freezing in winter, without clothes...but I take great pictures...joking...I have grown up with a Yashica and one lens just time later I saw it was a 28mm...when I passed to the digital I have tried bunches of cameras and lenses, at the end I ended always up with a 24 or 28 mm...I could say that Ricoh Gr is another great camera for me. But Leica q is another league on several aspects. So yes I love it...but next step is the Leica q monochrome, since I shot just b/W...anyway great channel yours...
They are all such fun tools, no matter what you choose. Digital, 35mm film, large format, Polaroid...it's all fun. Why limit yourself? Unlike a significant other, camera gear doesn't get jealous if you use something else. Keep what you fall for, sell off or give away to your friends what you're not in love with, and just keep the process going. I'm always looking for my next camera, even if it's just hunting for a used version of something I could never afford when it was originally out.
I think finding the right tool and struggling to find contentment are two distinct issues. The former necessitates experimenting with different tools while the latter often effects everything, not just photography. I’m not sure about gear acquisition syndrome, but lack of contentment is definitely a real issue and often manifests itself in constantly chasing what’s new.
@@lensman5762 Perhaps, but I’m not sure it’s that simple. I don’t consider myself talented, I do feel the temptation sometimes to think that better gear will make me better, but I’m fairly confident that a new, “better” camera will not magically make me better. That said, countless photographers online (who I consider to be very talented, whatever that means) still chase new gear and admit that it hasn’t helped this feeling of lack of contentment. BUT, some features on my new camera have inspired new ways of thinking about composition given its capability and that has sparked a new joy, so it’s not all chasing novelty I guess.
@@deantreloar I am speaking personally here, considering my age and some of the physical difficulties that I have, there are only two ' modern ' features that have ever been useful to me. One which is a pretty old one at that is auto focus, the other is IBiS or VR. Both are implemented quite well with some of my Nikon and Canon film cameras and ofcourse digital. For the rest of the feature list of these modern imaging computers, I couldn't care less. And again, speaking personally, I have too often tried to convince myself that new camera will better my photography. Nothing could be further from the truth. New gear does induce a short lived enthusiasm and oomph, but it is short lived and like fast food, once the initial satisfaction has been fulfilled, we have to put up with the consequences of our consumption.
@@lensman5762 sounds like you and I are on the same page actually. I’m convinced new gear is fool’s gold. By capabilities in new gear, I had in mind something as simple as the fold out screen on my Nikon Z6 as apposed to my older camera. It radically changed how I shoot in my particular areas of interest. I’m not for chasing larger sensors or higher video resolution, none of that helps me improve composition. But the short-lived rush of new gear you mentioned, that’s exactly what I’m referring to when I mention people lacking contentment, learning to master or maximize what one has.
I have about eight conventional cameras, including a Q2. I love using them all. Two or three aren't used so much these days, but nevertheless get the occasional outing and battery charge/rotation. I love gadgets, it is that simple, but also like using the cameras to capture images, including using art images and all the functions available in each body. The Leica is different because its interface is so simple and it is a different pleasure to use. However once customised to my liking and when busy, all the other cameras can be used in a similar way with a minimum of menu diving. While the 28mm lens on the Q2 is great, the in-body cropping to 35mm and 50mm is very convenient. However, I could never be without an 85mm portrait and about a 250mm equivalent zoom lens. In fact my most used walkabout lens out here rural Wales is the M4/3 Lumix 14/140 or Sony full frame 28/280, the latter of which is a heavy beast that unbalances my Sony A7 Mk3, so isn't used so much unless I'm out with only the Sony kit.
The Leica Q is the camera I may well ditch every other camera I own for. I’m seriously thinking of going extremely minimalist. I’ve tried many different cameras and they all fall a bit short in some way. Just one camera and one fixed lens is beginning to appeal more and more. No thoughts of what gear should I use today. If there is one camera that appeals more than any other it’s the Leica Q and Q2.
You can do it all with the Q, once you get comfortable with 28mm so it could be the perfect minimalist kit. I've used it for portraits, landscapes, street, and photographers like Greg Williams and Brett Curry both have huge bodies of professional work all shot on the Q.
Great video, lovely shots. I definitely feel guilty when acquiring new cameras. But I like having a variety of cameras. I like the technology, the design and how they’re all a bit different. And, ultimately, it helps to keep me inspired to try new things and get there and shoot. But everyone’s different!
If it helps inspire you to shoot then it can't be a bad thing surely. There's enough to feel guilty about in the world - we should go a bit easier on ourselves :)
I love to use different cameras according to my mood of the day and what I intend to shoot. I think it keeps my photos varied too. I only buy used equipment when they show up at good prices so I don't lose much money when I swap them out; I have even sold cameras for the same price or more when I have grown tired of them. I'd say I have two hobbies; photography and camera gear. However I do have favourites that I use most of the time; the Leica Q and the Fuji GFX systems. They both have outstanding IQ which inspires me to use them.
That's a great approach to separate them like that. It's really difficult to move away from the Q after seeing the IQ (in terms of detail and tonality) isn't it? I'd imagine the same with the GFX
@@frame-lines I absolutely agree. I’ve used many cameras. The Leica Q and the GFX systems have a particularly special quality to them. I’ve tried the Q2 and in my opinion the Q has a more beautiful rendition. The Q also taught me the value of a 28mm lens. It was hard at first to switch from years of using a 35mm lens. Now I realise the advantage - there’s more story-telling when using a wider lens on the street.
As a working photographer, I have essentially two kits, one for commercial work, which was canon 5dsr and one for personal work/travel etc, which was a fujifilm xpro2. I sold all my fujifilm gear for Leica M system cameras, m9, m262, m6, and an m4. This was just perfect for almost everything I used it for, but after 5 years of Leica ownership i decided that this and the canon gear just wasn’t cutting it somehow. So all the canons and the Leica’s have gone and been replaced with.... Fujifilm yet again. This time Gfx 50r has replaced the m262 hole in my life and I’m using the XH1 Xpro2 and xt3 for commercial work. The gfx is also on hand for studio portraits of course. Honestly I don’t miss the Leica’s, they are great to use and lovely objects, but for commercial work they aren’t the right tool for the job. I guess that’s what it comes down to in the end.
The commercial work I’ve done, has always been on a Canon DSLR with Fuji x series as backup because I knew they would not let me down. I would never have considered a Leica - until the Q :) GFX is something I’d love to try - I’d imagine it’s like a Fuji apsc but there’s a lot more in the files to work with?
@@frame-lines yeah the raws have so much to offer, way more than any canon raw from my 5dsr. highly recommend getting one on loan for a week or so, get some outdoor and some studio time with it. would you say the Q is a fujifilm xpro/apsc killer then? do you feel limited with the 28mm?
I did something similar. I loved my old med format Hassy cameras for work but did not like digital so much, had the 5dMk1 then nikon d810 then went to fuji 50s then now extremely happy with 100s along with 110mm 23mm and 45-100. The 45 was a perfect lens but replaced it with the 23. 63 is my least favourite out of my lenses and thought hmm the Leica Q as a "pocket-ish"(kind of) to satisfy days that I want my gfx with to take a few snaps here and there but don't feel like cartons it's size(mind you I compared weight) and the q and the gfx100s with a 45 lens is similar weight). /Ramble
Great video, love the calm and laid-back vibe of the video. I'm heavily invested in Sony. I have a Sony A7R3 and a host of GM lenses. I bought into the system mainly for travel and landscape photography, portrait photography and my digital marketing side hustle. I've also owned the Q2 for the better part of a year now and it is the ONLY camera that I take around with me everywhere I go. My primary motivation for purchasing it was the birth of our first child a little over 9 months ago. I wanted a small camera that captured quality images and the Q2 has been the perfect companion. The image quality is just superb; the colours punchy; and the skins tones natural and accurate. It is my favourite piece of kit by far. How do you go about editing your photos?
Same. Switched to Sony from Canon with A7, A7ii, A7Rii, A7iii, A9, with a host of GM’s and the lot of Zeiss Batis and Loxia’s. Dumped it all last year and now rocking Q2 and SL2-S with M glass. Couldn’t be happier with the choice.
Great video and thank you for sharing your perspective on the Q. What are your thoughts @frame-lines with regards to the lack of IBIS and proper weather sealing? Have you had any issue with either of those in the (now) two years you've owned it? A Q2 offers both of those (and quite a bit more upgrades and features) however the price point is way above my self-imposed "Want Vs Need Do-Not-Cross Line" : )
Glad you found the camera you were looking for. I may never purchase a Leica unless I win the lottery. Even then I don’t think so. Never used one though. The biggest hurdle is the price. I’m a hobbyist and can’t justify the price. Then there is simplicity of the bodies. I like IBIS. I like film simulations. I like buttons I can customize. I’m wanting to take short video clips so I can be a hybrid shooter. For me, Fuji fits the bill the best. There is GAS. I do feel guilty when I purchase a bit of gear I don’t use. For me, gear is an instrument. It has to perform and have a function. For example, bought the 55-200 zoom. Nice to have but don’t use it much. I’m a street photographer. I primarily use the 35 And 23 lenses. Been trying the 18mm on the GR3 and find it too wide. I need to get uncomfortably close to my subjects to fill the frame. I have the camera set up with digital zoom set to 35mm equivalent. I have a bad habit of not selling old gear. As a result, I have a lot of old bodies beside my own. I just gave an old Olympus digital cam to a coworker. Gave an older Panasonic to an old Air Force buddy. Still have too many bodies. How many bodies should I have? I’m guessing two, tops three.Have XPRO3 for street and just purchased an used XT30. Just passed on an used XS10. It came with a lens I have. With the lens sold, it was a good deal. Wanted to buy it for the flippy screen and IBIs. Don’t have a Fuji with IBIS. I recognized it was a good deal but felt guilty wanting this camera as I just purchased the XT30. You can’t steal in slow motion. Somebody else recognized a good deal and was thus saved from myself. I am happy to say I have more than what I need in regards to camera gear. Enough bodies. Enough lenses. A couple of microphones. May need some ND filters when I get serious about video. That’s about all. I need to use and enjoy what I have. Stop looking at Craigslist daily. Stop looking at B&H and other camera stores used sections. The reality is better gear doesn’t translate to better images on my part. No more new gear. At least for a while. Mask on Nurse Marty
I can relate to that in a way. I also have a lot of gear sitting around being unused, but I feel like i'll come back to it when the right project gets my attention. (and I find it very hard to sell cameras I love, even if I don't use them that often)
GAS works for guitars as well as cameras and is a running joke. However there’s an old saying about kissing a load of frogs. I personally believe that everything surely serves its purpose whether it be budget cameras or budget guitars, we all have to start somewhere . ………….but ultimately “Quality will out!”. That certainly seems the case with my journey where I’ve found that quality guitars and cameras are ultimately easier to use and produce better results.
For me it's been a general progression. I started off with a used Canon 5DMkII (after selling a couple of 1" sensor compact cameras) then got an XT-2 (used) with 18-60mm zoom lens for the smaller size and portability, decided I wanted to focus on street photography and got the X100V (new) then broke the bank with the Leica Q2, also new, (I echo everything you say about the Q) and finally an XPro2 (used). You could call it GAS I guess but it all seemed logical to me as I went through different phases of what I wanted to do as a photographer - plus you are a long time dead!
I've found it to be a progression sometimes, but other times i'll get a camera and it will feel like a step backwards. It can be difficult to realise that, and just give up and move on. I struggled for a long time with the Mamiya 7 for example, and i just never liked it. That doesn't mean it's not a great camera - it just didn't suit me at the time. Phases as a photographer are really interesting to me. Especially when you look at how someone like Joel Meyerowitz or Harry Callahan had many different phases throughout the years.
You guys are dangerous to my wallet, every time I watch an episode I'm ordering a new photo book 🤣. Keep up the good work, love your photography and the channel. 👍
I kinda feel like gears does matter and don't at the same time. The first camera I ever used was a Nikon D3200. I still use it today I learned a lot. Got my first prime lens a year after Dream camera is the Fujifilm xpro3 . I guess I can also say that style plays a big role in cameras with their designs. And a certain type of camera does go with your personality and fashion statements etc . The type of camera you use also depends on your needs as well
The xpro 3 is a damn great camera. The 2 is equally good imo, if you're looking for something more on a budget. Totally agree that the type of camera depends on your needs - rather than tech specs, etc
The Q is a great camera and I bought mine instead of a Summilux 28/1.4 for my M240. That's a great combo for me as a press photographer. Nice to learn Shane's view on the Q. Me and GAS ? No, I keep and use my gear, and I'm not following the trend to buy every new product on the market. I still have my 2005 Digilux 2, my M240 is eight years old and the Q four. So no GAS here. Well, to be honest: my bank accountant tells me I have no GAS. Keep on rolling.
The m240 is a camera i've always been curious about. Photos from it look beautiful. I'd imagine it's so nice to use, that you might work around any issues like buffering etc?
@@frame-lines The M240 has IMO no issues, but like all other cameras limitations. The M240 makes you think more creative. Just pressing the release bottom and shooting 100 frames in seconds has nothing to do with photography; it's more like filming. If you choose the right tool for your work, there'll be no issues.
I really love your work. I have a Q myself but I'm having a hard time creating the same look as your sample photos in the video. Would you mind sharing the preset that you use?
Changing gear is like dating, how do you know if that camera (and lens) is ‘The One’ if you don’t buy, use and then sell and get something else for a few years, sure some people know right off; but for us mortals trying out gear is part of the journey to finding that camera and lens that will become a permanent fix in our lives. I think it’s a problem if a person starts collecting without using, wasting money because it accumulates dust-or if he/she is going into financial debt to get the newest, best and brightest gear to no avail.
I have the Leica Q. I love it. But i love the old way to. Analog and all. Have the Leica M3 and the older Leica 2f. I still love to develop black and white film.
I think that GAS was meant in a different way. Sometimes you buy a newer camera that isn’t really different from the previous model instead of enjoying the one you already use. I agree with you that it doesn’t matter. Just buy as much cameras as you like if you have the money.
Man, I’m in the process of purchasing after financially now being to do it without feeling guilty . I shoot multiple film a can and shoot both Sony a’7s and canon, but I think I may take the chance to see how it adds to the language with which i shoot
Hm, for my liking the skin tones of these pics are waaay too orange/saturated, e.g. compare the (embedded) stills to the video footage (right after) at 2:50. But after all I am a sucker on Fuji's Classic Chrome Simulation (on my Fuji X-E2s with Saturation on +2 though). ;-) Also these rounded edges on the Leicas is exactly what I don't like (just visually - ergonomically I can understand your point) but I am not interested in one anyway. I much prefer the visual design of the Fuji Rangefinder Styles (X-Pro 3, X-100V, X-E4)... I like your chilled style of vids - keep it up!
The nice saturation and tonality of the reds and oranges remind me of darkroom color printing. Maybe it's just your editing technique but it looks great!
@@frame-lines my Instagram @frederic_vasquez a few with the Q2 but just starting to get use to it. In London on the 19 may that should be a better spot to give it a good run 🥳📸
Still lusting for this but after many, many cameras I came to the Sony A7s. It's absolutely amazing and I did not expect it really. 12mp and the images have a film feel to them. It reads light wonderfully and you can go to ISO bonkers. Plus - it's practically free.
That's how i felt about the Canon 6D when i got it. It just read light beautifully - especially low light. Colour always seemed true to what I saw at the time. Despite it being considered an ancient camera at the time :)
I have used the XPRO2 with the 23mm f2 almost exclusively for the past several months. And, while I still have a very long way to go, using one camera and one lens is making me a better photographer (I think). Plus, I don't waste as much time watching RUclips gear reviews.
I resisted digital as long as I could with a Leica R7 and five primes. Then the labs closed down and Fuji NPS went extinct. I have been lost ever since. A decade of Fujis followed. Now I have sold them all including 5 primes and three zooms. I am bouncing back and forth with the idea of the Q or the Q2. I like the flow of the Q2 UI, but the overkill sensor and concomitant loss in low light performance gives me pause. The Q is older and the menus seem more fiddly, but it may not matter. Also, with the Q I will have money left over for a Zuiko 90 f2 for my OM-1 ;^)
I've recently picked up the Q2 and in comparing it to the original Q; the end result (photos) are almost exactly the same. There are practical differences that make the upgrade worth it for me, however. 10bit 4:2:2 video for when I need it. The 45mp sensor makes 35mm crop mode a legitimate option to use full-time. The ergonomics are nicer (solid power button and the FN button on the right-side dial). Firmware updates introduced things like highlight metering mode and iDR. If you loved the Q, you'll love the Q2 just as much. You won't be disappointed with either. In all the cameras I've used- nothing comes close to the Q series in consistently producing great image quality.
If I spent that much money on a camera, I would love it regardless of how dysfunctional or unsuited it is to my "shooting style" (whatever that is). I suspect that if other camera manufacturers created bodies like the Q, the consensus would be that the lack of a proper grip was a sub-optimal design decision. Or the lack of customisable controls was a slap in the face to the user. Or the lack of a tilting screen (especially in a street camera) was a blatant oversight. All of these complaints have been lodged against other, cheaper cameras. Like it or not, cameras are like any other commodity - there is value in prestige as much as in functionality.
That's exactly why i make the point of explaining that we shouldn't get caught up in the technical details of a camera, like flip screens, etc. On paper, i wasn't sure if the Q would suit me because of some of the things you mentioned, like not having a proper grip, and not having enough customisability. However, after trying it - I realised non of those things were really that important to me.
I wouldn't say no to a flip screen on it, as long as it was discreet. 28mm is very suited to low angles and it would make it easier to get them, by placing the camera on the ground and being able to see the lcd more easily.
last year, I had read (one of my 36 Photo-Books) -- "Interviews & Conversations" -- H.C-Bresson I will check out the 2nd book you suggested -- Frank Horvat Side Walk like you, i still have my 8 year old 6D . . . . & 16 months old Leica M10-P white now looking at Q2-Mono or a 28mm lens for my 6D, or selling 6D & getting medium format; too much confusion Thanks, Regards from India.
I still adore my 6d. I sold my original one in 2019 and missed it sorely, then bought one back and promised myself i'd never sell it again :) I love using the simple 40mm pancake lens on it - have you tried that one?
I have a love/hate relationship with the Q. It produces amazing images but the buffer is terrible. I've lost many images because it just freezes up every now and then and I have to take the battery out to get it working again.
That’s something Josh warned me about before I bought one. I’ve lost a few images to it- but now I just don’t shoot in bursts anymore. I’ve heard the Q2 isn’t much better because they increased the buffer but the files are much bigger?
Mine freezes too. Typically I used a 32GB card. Recently I put a 64GB SanDisk extreme pro and the freezing up has stopped. Maybe coincidence maybe it suits the camera. It's still the best camera I've used so I forgive the Q for its faults.
It’s a pretty good EVF 🤷🏻♂️ I would prefer an optical viewfinder and i might try a coldshoe ovf when the weather gets a bit better and i can zone focus shoot all day at f8-16
You mention that you use ISO 800 on a regular basis… isn’t the quality of the pictures too much affected? I am fixed to ISO 100 because of that, but maybe the capacity of sensors has evolved…
Of couse GAS is a problem. It can end up being expensive, and it prevents people from ever becoming really comfortable with that ONE great piece of equipment that after a while almost becomes an extension of their body. It is almost like a guy having loads of girls coming over to his place, yet never loving anyone in particular.
But how do you find that ONE great piece of equipment? There’s no BEST camera out there. Different cameras suit different people, and the only way to find them is to try them rather than relying on reviews and specs, etc. I’ve seen too many photographers stick to a camera they were told is the ‘best one’, only for it to completely suck the joy out of photography for them.
I think GAS is only a clinic word for searching the gear that works for you. At a certain point you are happy wirh your gear and do not buy and sell gear any more. I also ended up with Leica. But some people do not finish searching…..
I have GAS. I have a Q. What comes after a Q ? A M240 with a 50mm f2 Summicron ? Got one, no ! In it's own sphere the Q is the pinnacle of my kit. Olympus has come and gone, Cannon been and gone, Fuji X is the new kid on the block. Sony A7Rii is back on the shelf but not for long......The Q isn't perfect for me but it's perfect for what it does. M or Q ? Q.
I had GAS bad, and it does exist. I got back into photography with a Fuji X-E2. I loved that camera, but moved it on for an X-Pro 2 because of course, I "had" to upgrade. (Thanks RUclips influencers) Hated that camera (and that fiddly Shutter Speed/ISO dial) so I dumped that kit and moved to a Canon R6. Boring. Took nice pics, but didn't inspire me to get out and take photos. I've been on a quest for the perfect camera and discovered... it doesn't exist. This journey has not been linear. Each disappointment has not taken me to something better. Maybe the Q?
I've gotten to the point where I've reduced down to one type of body per format (135, 67, 645, peel apart) plus one specialty camera in that I have super fast 135 camera for news events/protests/etc. GAS is definitely real tho haha
@@frame-lines haha well a lack of space helps a lot to motivate too! and for the record, when I say "one type per format" I didn't mean one copy haha, I do have 3 of that body
I feel like G.A.S. may be real for people who buy cameras and gear they never use. If you're going through gear to try to find the right equipment for you, I believe that is another story entirely. I am constantly browsing ebay for things that would make taking photos more enjoyable for me.
It have G.A.S. but I'm happy to know that sometime I find a piece of equipment that just makes me so happy that the G.A.S. goes away. It happened 3 time in my life and I'm 44.
GAS is definitely real, but it isn't just buying gear. I think it comes down to buying stuff without a clear vision of how you are going to use it. Years ago I bought a drone, for example, with minimal thought put about how I would actually use it. As a result I never really used it and then sold it... What a waste! I think that's GAS
GAS is definitely real, but I think people confuse it with the moral quandary that you went through. GAS is when you just keep on accumulating gear without really ever using them nor selling them away. What you described is the process of finding the perfect camera through the process of elimination. You buy, use, sell. GAS on the other hand is more of a hoarding problem. It comes from a deep sense of insecurity and thinking that throwing money at photography will make you better, not investing time and actually learning the darn thing. People with GAS will often own a large quantity of expensive gear but their pictures will look like they were taken on a phone. I know it sounds rude, but it's true. People with GAS are most often than not kinda shite. And they know they're shite and think that the problem will remedy itself if they buy a $5000 lens.
I understand that. However, there are also a lot of bad photographers who stick with the '1 camera and 1 lens' principle because a youtuber or camera club expert quoted Henri Cartier Bresson at them. Being a bad photographer has nothing to do with the amount of gear you accumulate. I might be wrong, but I really feel like we have so many critical, unhelpful terms and rules in photography that suck the joy of it for most people.
@@frame-lines There absolutely are bad photographers who don't own lots of gear, but I still think that GAS is real since I've seen far too many examples of it. Bad photographers exist in all shapes and sizes absolutely, but I was mainly talking about photographers with GAS. Not all bad photographers have GAS, but most photographers with GAS are pretty bad. But like I also explicitly mentioned, what makes someone a photographer with GAS is a person who buys lots of gear without ever actually using them. There's also great photographers with lots of gear but you'll notice that they'll use their gear quite often and will always have a specific use for a specific piece of equipment. Vintage lens owners are a perfect example. Some people love collecting vintage lenses for the unique characteristics and "look" each lens gives them. But you'll notice they're almost always using those lenses and putting them to good use. That's what to me differentiates a photographer with GAS and a photographer with lots of gear!
@@frame-lines And I also agree with the second part! There are way too many rules and terms that do nothing but hold you back! I myself personally shoot with an XT10 and a 35mm f2 and a vintage lens with great results, but I'm also mocked by other photographers with insanely expensive gear because I shoot with a "small sensor camera" and "not a 70-200mm 2.8" Doesn't matter that I still manage to produce better results than them 🤷♂️
I feel like if you’re a street photographer it’s probably best to just stick to one camera and one lens, but if you’re doing anything else I guess by all means go for the kit of your dreams haha
I agree that it might be a good choice to go with 1 camera 1 lens for a very specific type of street photography, but I’m into a lot of sub genres which require different formats, bodies and lenses :)
That's what i want to whittle my gear down to- a workhorse XT4 for stills/filming, and the compact Q for ....sheer joy? (also film cameras don't count ok?)
you should have as many cameras and as many lenses as you want. no one else has the right to tell you how many you should have. as long as you get out and shoot something, who cares how many cameras and lenses you have.
Glad you like that 28mm or should I say 24mm :-) I have the Q and it stays in a bag at the bottom of a forgotten cupboard , I cant think of a more useless hipster purchase I hate myself for sucking in all the hype for this expensive paperweight !
new digital technology cured my GAS. these days, I have FAS (film acquisition syndrome)... as far as stills goes, digital has reached its peak years ago. I was happy with my Leica m9 and I regret selling it tbh... I have zero excitement for the new shiny 100mp shit...
Haha. I’ll be honest- I only just found the lens cap after losing it the day after i bought the bloody camera. So I’m being a bit precious about it now :)
I got the Q earlier this year. Owned around 10 other cameras from various brands and I finally feel like I don't need anything else really. Found the perfect all around! 👌
Just got my Leica Q three months ago. Also have a plethora of other cameras, including Fuji X100V, Olympus Pen F & OM1, but there's just something about the Q. I love the minimalist menu, the fact that the rear screen doesn't flip up or out. It fulfills what I've been long looking for, a digital camera that gets as close as possible to my beloved and almost 50 year old 35mm Olympus OM10. This really is a case of 'less is more!...' I could care less about the video capabilities. The Q just slows everything down and makes every image an immersive experience. No front grips nor thumb grips for me. I love the minimalist aesthetic of the design. I love my Q, not because it is a Leica, rather for the purity of the photographic experience. Love your content.
Totally agree! I went thru a LOT of camera gear from mirrorless aps-c to full frame and finally ended up with the Q a few years ago and now…. I’m done! Very happy I landed on it. I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything. It’s perfect.
Pretty cool music in the intro. felt so fresh and new. 👌 The concept that you don't have GAS so you haven't found the right camera yet is spot on. I had that feeling with analog cameras when I bought my M6. Suddenly my GAS was gone.
Thanks man. We're getting a bit tired of Chill Beats Photography Videos 😂
Gear Acquisition Syndrome for me began with the advent of digital cameras, and because of my longtime experience with technology, I knew it would. From 1980 until 2001 I had only two film cameras and they were all I wanted and needed. Since 2001 I've had nearly 20 digital cameras as I tracked the progress of sensor technology. I'm down to two now: A Nikon D850 and a Leica Q. The Q is what makes me happiest I don't foresee buying any other cameras from here on out.
I have two cameras at the moment. Sony RX100M7 and Fujifilm X-T4 I purchased about a month ago.
But these two don't seem like enough.
I have this Leica lust which just won't go away.
So i'm thinking about buying Leica Q. To me it doesn't make any sense, for example if I were to go on a trip X-T4 would seem a more logical choice to take with me, as it has 18-55 lens, which is more practical. But still no reasons can make this lust go away)))
Having recently purchased a lightly used Leica Q I can totally relate to this. I’m still getting to grips with the process and layout but the experience of taking photos with it is a real joy.
Isn’t it? I was very skeptical at first but it’s, like you said, a real joy :) Have you tried ultimate street mode with it? Ie: 1/500 shutter speed, f8 and set the lens on manual just slightly beyond 2m. Now you don’t have to think about focusing :)
@@frame-lines No I haven't thanks for the tip. I find myself experimenting more with this camera safe in the knowledge that my skills are currently way below the capability of the camera.
I did the same. I finally got a Leica Q after many cameras. It is my primary camera for most shoots. I then got an SL for my more professional work. Leica Q inspired me to go with the Leica brand.
Followed the same path.
Suffering G.A.S. addiction bad lol. Picked up a Sony Rx100M7 because Sony’s focus system intrigued me. Happened to attend an ex-president’s fund raiser and secret service didn’t bat an eye at the little gem. Everyone had cell phones. Me, a 24-200mm 20mp monster. Captured incredible images. So my GAS occasionally gets it right to acquire the right tool for a very specific role. My Q-P used for family documentation. SL2 paid work. Fuji XT3, Xpro1, XH1 personal projects and travel. Olympus TG-6 pool and beach. I have massive amounts of fun using all of my gear.
Great video and a joy to watch. Cheers.
My GAS was huge for many years. I wanted to try every new camera out there. Switching systems every 6 months. I started noticing that I planned new kits from what I potentially would en up shooting. So i just said to myself, I can focus on one thing (family documentary) and everything would have to. So I sold everything I had and bought a Leica Q2. Surprisingly versatile camera and I havent GASed for several months now 😁 I think the GAS has moved on to my car though...
I hope i terminated my gas with an oly e-m1 II
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I used 1 camera and 1 lens for a year - my Leica M9 with a Voigrlander 40mm f1.4. It was a wonderful learning experience. However, I was grateful to use other cameras and lenses since then. My M9 is still my favorite camera since I know it so well. But, I also enjoy my Fuji X100 for ease of use, and my Canon Canonette 1.7 film camera. Thabks for the great video!
Expected to see the Q pop up in the next video based on Josh’s Insta story. GAS is alright as long as you sell the ones which don’t work for you before moving onto the next one, and not you’re chasing after the latest and greatest every month
Exactly - it depends on your end goal. If it’s just to collect gear then it’s a problem, but if your trying to find the right camera for a project then go for it imo
Love my Q. And my Nikon FX. And my Fuji X. No GAS.
I really enjoyed this video, I was in the same shoes trying to find a camera that works for me x100v, xe4, GR iii etc. I’ve wanted the Q since 2017 when I decided against saving for an M240. I’ve had the Q for 2 weeks and I just love using it, 28mm is pretty wide but that 1.7 aperture really makes it quite versatile.
Nice tease on what’s coming. Can’t wait. The Q colours and your colour grading always completely transform the mood and tone of a photograph. Wow.
It’s such a great combination of lens and sensor that it’s really easy to get nice colour from it
I feel like for GAS it comes down to your motivations, if you're acquiring stuff thinking it'll make you a better photographer then you'll have a problem. If you are acquiring stuff because you just like cameras, different perspectives and you're maximising your gear then GAS away!
Love your photos as well!
That's a very good point. I know that, personally I just love so many aspects of photography that I want to try them all, and that unfortunately leads to me buying a lot of gear
@@frame-lines couldn’t say it any better.
@@frame-lines spent years just using T3 (35mm) because someone gave it to me when digital was supposed to be the second coming of Christ and everyone was ditching film (yea lucky me right place right time) People started making a fuss about my work so then I started thinking I was ‘important enough’ to start acquiring more gear. But it just confused things. And to this day I still get best results from same camera. Now have a digital but only end up taking it out when it’s low light and a flash is too intrusive.
Q2 could work for me. Shoot Sony a7r4 and I don’t like it. Too many buttons. They get knocked and the settings change without warning and the menus are a pain in the arse.
Love the richness & depth of the internal bus shot. Thanks for the book recs. Yes I did feel guilty during covid when I seemed to have GAS however in hindsight I have ended up with a setup I am extremely happy with. I went from 1 camera 6 lenses to 2 cameras & 4 lenses but of a higher quality. Setup : Panasonic G9 with P Leica 8-18mm f2.8-4, P Leica 25mm f1.4 & Pana 35-100 f2.8, plus the rangefinder style GX9 & P Leica 15mm f1.7. (Oddly though my worst moment in photography, getting my Pana Leica 12-60 f2.8-4 stolen, was what eventually made me realise that I didnt need this in my setup as it was a compromise too far in IQ compared to the others).
Great shots and interesting opinion on Gear Acquisition Syndrome. I always feel a little bad for not being satisfied with what I have, but I really enjoy the journey of trying different gear and finding out what is important to me in photography.
Your video really resonated with me for a few reasons: I've been through a few cameras now and none of them made me love the process of taking a photograph; yes, the results were great a lot of the time, but somehow I didn't connect. Of course, people tell you it's not the camera , it's you and that's true up to a point. However, as a musician, I can say that the instrument really does matter, it takes you beyond your current experience and onto another level. Again, it has to suit you, it's an individual thing and it's up to you to bring the hidden depths out of it. I've always had a feeling that Leica is the one for me and now I'm going to test that out...thanks for the video±
At times gear acquisition syndrome bothers me. I have a Q1 since 2018 -just love the thing- but my basic professional gear is composed of two Ms (a 9 and a 10r) and at times I carry two medium format digital cameras in a Think Tank Airport with wheels. And on occasion a high speed Nikon. They suit my needs and the type of work I do. But even if I could buy each piece of gear at a reasonable price and mostly second hand I sometimes think that I have way more than what I need, that I can do with much less and that my work is not that special to justify such a spend.
About the Q, it’s such a joy to use and so versatile that it’s the only thing I carry on holiday or when spending a day out. The tonality, the way it does highlights and shadows, the low light performance and the delicious sharpness of the lens make it the perfect camera.
I have a Q now - in love with it, don't see any options to change it for... Great review, thanks
I think it's important to find the right camera for you through trying different types. But, I also think it's important to note that some cameras require dedication to make that decision. Particularly medium format cameras can be difficult and unwieldy. I don't think anyone shoots medium format without some level of commitment to a more difficult process!
That's very true. However, sometimes i think you can feel it in your gut when a camera isn't right for you. One of my favourite cameras, the Mamiya645 is a pain to use, but I still loved the experience so much that i knew it was right for me, then seeing images back from it made it even more worthwhile.
Great video Shane. I recently got my own M2 back (CLA) and have enjoyed going out taking photos around Cork City. Waiting for a local photo shop to open so I can get the few rolls I’ve taken developed. Big fan of the channel 👍🏻😄
Nice one Ross! It will be lovely to use that in cork over the summer. How do you find the fully manual approach with the M2?
@@frame-lines I’ll be honest I am very new to it (used just iPhones for years) but I am learning a lot, hence the reason why I tune into the channel so much. I’ve got a Keks light meter to help me with the proper exposure, etc. The light in the city on a sunny day is a delight, and it’s fun composing a shot. Although it takes a few days to actually see the shot, from finishing a roll to processing and scanning, it is a nice surprise when it turns out well.
Thank you for the Q views, I own an X typ 113, bought it a years back to restrict my GAS, and restrict lens choice - loved it, never felt restricted. Added a visioflex, and enjoy that as it makes it more intuitive. Also own a Nikon Df, with a 50mm lens.
Oddly those two appear to be all I need. I have one additional lens for the Df, but use it only in a very narrow set of circumstances. Which shows you, half the gear we buy, we do not genuinely need.
awesome vid mate cheers. After many many years not needing but wanting a leica I finally bought a brand spanking new shiney cute AF Q2. 14 days later I killed it at a laser light show. It's winging its way to German for a new sensor....not cheap, with a min 16 week turnaround. Anyway that's just the way it is. In the 14 days i had the Q2 I mostly loved it. The two things I wasn't in love with is the 47mp HUUUUGE too much for my needs, and the iso at 3200 is imho bad. So now i'm bidding on a used and damaged Q to see me til the 2 comes home. I do like the idea of smaller file sizes for sure. GAS I dunno, I kind of collect gear always have I love trying new and very old gear.
I have bought a Leica q last month...sold everything else I had...I can't be more happy...
That's a big commitment :) You must really love it
@@frame-lines :D really....now I own just my Leica Q, kind of freezing in winter, without clothes...but I take great pictures...joking...I have grown up with a Yashica and one lens just time later I saw it was a 28mm...when I passed to the digital I have tried bunches of cameras and lenses, at the end I ended always up with a 24 or 28 mm...I could say that Ricoh Gr is another great camera for me. But Leica q is another league on several aspects. So yes I love it...but next step is the Leica q monochrome, since I shot just b/W...anyway great channel yours...
They are all such fun tools, no matter what you choose. Digital, 35mm film, large format, Polaroid...it's all fun. Why limit yourself?
Unlike a significant other, camera gear doesn't get jealous if you use something else. Keep what you fall for, sell off or give away to your friends what you're not in love with, and just keep the process going. I'm always looking for my next camera, even if it's just hunting for a used version of something I could never afford when it was originally out.
Hi Shane, have you used the 35 and 50 crop mode on the Q - if so, how did you find the quality of the output? Great Video! Cheers
Waiting for my silver Q from MPB arriving next week, I'm so excited for my first Leica
I think finding the right tool and struggling to find contentment are two distinct issues. The former necessitates experimenting with different tools while the latter often effects everything, not just photography. I’m not sure about gear acquisition syndrome, but lack of contentment is definitely a real issue and often manifests itself in constantly chasing what’s new.
That stems from a lack of talent, if I may be honest. I suffer from it like everyone else.
@@lensman5762 Perhaps, but I’m not sure it’s that simple. I don’t consider myself talented, I do feel the temptation sometimes to think that better gear will make me better, but I’m fairly confident that a new, “better” camera will not magically make me better. That said, countless photographers online (who I consider to be very talented, whatever that means) still chase new gear and admit that it hasn’t helped this feeling of lack of contentment.
BUT, some features on my new camera have inspired new ways of thinking about composition given its capability and that has sparked a new joy, so it’s not all chasing novelty I guess.
@@deantreloar I am speaking personally here, considering my age and some of the physical difficulties that I have, there are only two ' modern ' features that have ever been useful to me. One which is a pretty old one at that is auto focus, the other is IBiS or VR. Both are implemented quite well with some of my Nikon and Canon film cameras and ofcourse digital. For the rest of the feature list of these modern imaging computers, I couldn't care less. And again, speaking personally, I have too often tried to convince myself that new camera will better my photography. Nothing could be further from the truth. New gear does induce a short lived enthusiasm and oomph, but it is short lived and like fast food, once the initial satisfaction has been fulfilled, we have to put up with the consequences of our consumption.
@@lensman5762 sounds like you and I are on the same page actually. I’m convinced new gear is fool’s gold.
By capabilities in new gear, I had in mind something as simple as the fold out screen on my Nikon Z6 as apposed to my older camera. It radically changed how I shoot in my particular areas of interest. I’m not for chasing larger sensors or higher video resolution, none of that helps me improve composition. But the short-lived rush of new gear you mentioned, that’s exactly what I’m referring to when I mention people lacking contentment, learning to master or maximize what one has.
@@deantreloar Indeed so sir.
I have about eight conventional cameras, including a Q2. I love using them all. Two or three aren't used so much these days, but nevertheless get the occasional outing and battery charge/rotation. I love gadgets, it is that simple, but also like using the cameras to capture images, including using art images and all the functions available in each body. The Leica is different because its interface is so simple and it is a different pleasure to use. However once customised to my liking and when busy, all the other cameras can be used in a similar way with a minimum of menu diving.
While the 28mm lens on the Q2 is great, the in-body cropping to 35mm and 50mm is very convenient. However, I could never be without an 85mm portrait and about a 250mm equivalent zoom lens. In fact my most used walkabout lens out here rural Wales is the M4/3 Lumix 14/140 or Sony full frame 28/280, the latter of which is a heavy beast that unbalances my Sony A7 Mk3, so isn't used so much unless I'm out with only the Sony kit.
The Leica Q is the camera I may well ditch every other camera I own for. I’m seriously thinking of going extremely minimalist. I’ve tried many different cameras and they all fall a bit short in some way. Just one camera and one fixed lens is beginning to appeal more and more. No thoughts of what gear should I use today. If there is one camera that appeals more than any other it’s the Leica Q and Q2.
You can do it all with the Q, once you get comfortable with 28mm so it could be the perfect minimalist kit. I've used it for portraits, landscapes, street, and photographers like Greg Williams and Brett Curry both have huge bodies of professional work all shot on the Q.
Great to see you again Shane :)
Haha thanks Herm
Great video, lovely shots. I definitely feel guilty when acquiring new cameras. But I like having a variety of cameras. I like the technology, the design and how they’re all a bit different. And, ultimately, it helps to keep me inspired to try new things and get there and shoot. But everyone’s different!
If it helps inspire you to shoot then it can't be a bad thing surely. There's enough to feel guilty about in the world - we should go a bit easier on ourselves :)
@@frame-lines yes exactly! I have enough shit going on to feel guilty about buying a country!
Exactly same feeling here
Exactly
I love to use different cameras according to my mood of the day and what I intend to shoot. I think it keeps my photos varied too. I only buy used equipment when they show up at good prices so I don't lose much money when I swap them out; I have even sold cameras for the same price or more when I have grown tired of them. I'd say I have two hobbies; photography and camera gear.
However I do have favourites that I use most of the time; the Leica Q and the Fuji GFX systems. They both have outstanding IQ which inspires me to use them.
That's a great approach to separate them like that. It's really difficult to move away from the Q after seeing the IQ (in terms of detail and tonality) isn't it? I'd imagine the same with the GFX
@@frame-lines I absolutely agree. I’ve used many cameras. The Leica Q and the GFX systems have a particularly special quality to them. I’ve tried the Q2 and in my opinion the Q has a more beautiful rendition. The Q also taught me the value of a 28mm lens. It was hard at first to switch from years of using a 35mm lens. Now I realise the advantage - there’s more story-telling when using a wider lens on the street.
I'm a Leica M shooter and thinking about picking up a Q to pair along with my digital M. Nice video..
As a working photographer, I have essentially two kits, one for commercial work, which was canon 5dsr and one for personal work/travel etc, which was a fujifilm xpro2. I sold all my fujifilm gear for Leica M system cameras, m9, m262, m6, and an m4. This was just perfect for almost everything I used it for, but after 5 years of Leica ownership i decided that this and the canon gear just wasn’t cutting it somehow. So all the canons and the Leica’s have gone and been replaced with.... Fujifilm yet again. This time Gfx 50r has replaced the m262 hole in my life and I’m using the XH1 Xpro2 and xt3 for commercial work. The gfx is also on hand for studio portraits of course.
Honestly I don’t miss the Leica’s, they are great to use and lovely objects, but for commercial work they aren’t the right tool for the job. I guess that’s what it comes down to in the end.
The commercial work I’ve done, has always been on a Canon DSLR with Fuji x series as backup because I knew they would not let me down. I would never have considered a Leica - until the Q :) GFX is something I’d love to try - I’d imagine it’s like a Fuji apsc but there’s a lot more in the files to work with?
@@frame-lines yeah the raws have so much to offer, way more than any canon raw from my 5dsr. highly recommend getting one on loan for a week or so, get some outdoor and some studio time with it. would you say the Q is a fujifilm xpro/apsc killer then? do you feel limited with the 28mm?
I did something similar. I loved my old med format Hassy cameras for work but did not like digital so much, had the 5dMk1 then nikon d810 then went to fuji 50s then now extremely happy with 100s along with 110mm 23mm and 45-100. The 45 was a perfect lens but replaced it with the 23. 63 is my least favourite out of my lenses and thought hmm the Leica Q as a "pocket-ish"(kind of) to satisfy days that I want my gfx with to take a few snaps here and there but don't feel like cartons it's size(mind you I compared weight) and the q and the gfx100s with a 45 lens is similar weight). /Ramble
Great video, love the calm and laid-back vibe of the video. I'm heavily invested in Sony. I have a Sony A7R3 and a host of GM lenses. I bought into the system mainly for travel and landscape photography, portrait photography and my digital marketing side hustle. I've also owned the Q2 for the better part of a year now and it is the ONLY camera that I take around with me everywhere I go. My primary motivation for purchasing it was the birth of our first child a little over 9 months ago. I wanted a small camera that captured quality images and the Q2 has been the perfect companion. The image quality is just superb; the colours punchy; and the skins tones natural and accurate. It is my favourite piece of kit by far. How do you go about editing your photos?
I just did the same and picked up the Q2. I have a bunch of Sony GM lenses and think the Q2 is what will be going on my bag most days.
Same. Switched to Sony from Canon with A7, A7ii, A7Rii, A7iii, A9, with a host of GM’s and the lot of Zeiss Batis and Loxia’s. Dumped it all last year and now rocking Q2 and SL2-S with M glass. Couldn’t be happier with the choice.
I appreciate the book recommendations, solid choices. Also your take on the Leica Q is well delivered.
Great video and thank you for sharing your perspective on the Q.
What are your thoughts @frame-lines with regards to the lack of IBIS and proper weather sealing? Have you had any issue with either of those in the (now) two years you've owned it?
A Q2 offers both of those (and quite a bit more upgrades and features) however the price point is way above my self-imposed "Want Vs Need Do-Not-Cross Line" : )
Glad you found the camera you were looking for.
I may never purchase a Leica unless I win the lottery. Even then I don’t think so. Never used one though. The biggest hurdle is the price. I’m a hobbyist and can’t justify the price. Then there is simplicity of the bodies. I like IBIS. I like film simulations. I like buttons I can customize. I’m wanting to take short video clips so I can be a hybrid shooter. For me, Fuji fits the bill the best.
There is GAS. I do feel guilty when I purchase a bit of gear I don’t use. For me, gear is an instrument. It has to perform and have a function. For example, bought the 55-200 zoom. Nice to have but don’t use it much. I’m a street photographer. I primarily use the 35 And 23 lenses. Been trying the 18mm on the GR3 and find it too wide. I need to get uncomfortably close to my subjects to fill the frame. I have the camera set up with digital zoom set to 35mm equivalent.
I have a bad habit of not selling old gear. As a result, I have a lot of old bodies beside my own. I just gave an old Olympus digital cam to a coworker. Gave an older Panasonic to an old Air Force buddy. Still have too many bodies. How many bodies should I have? I’m guessing two, tops three.Have XPRO3 for street and just purchased an used XT30. Just passed on an used XS10. It came with a lens I have. With the lens sold, it was a good deal. Wanted to buy it for the flippy screen and IBIs. Don’t have a Fuji with IBIS. I recognized it was a good deal but felt guilty wanting this camera as I just purchased the XT30. You can’t steal in slow motion. Somebody else recognized a good deal and was thus saved from myself.
I am happy to say I have more than what I need in regards to camera gear. Enough bodies. Enough lenses. A couple of microphones. May need some ND filters when I get serious about video. That’s about all.
I need to use and enjoy what I have. Stop looking at Craigslist daily. Stop looking at B&H and other camera stores used sections. The reality is better gear doesn’t translate to better images on my part. No more new gear. At least for a while.
Mask on Nurse Marty
I can relate to that in a way. I also have a lot of gear sitting around being unused, but I feel like i'll come back to it when the right project gets my attention. (and I find it very hard to sell cameras I love, even if I don't use them that often)
GAS works for guitars as well as cameras and is a running joke.
However there’s an old saying about kissing a load of frogs.
I personally believe that everything surely serves its purpose whether it be
budget cameras or budget guitars, we all have to start somewhere .
………….but ultimately “Quality will out!”.
That certainly seems the case with my journey where I’ve found that quality guitars and cameras are ultimately easier
to use and produce better results.
For me it's been a general progression. I started off with a used Canon 5DMkII (after selling a couple of 1" sensor compact cameras) then got an XT-2 (used) with 18-60mm zoom lens for the smaller size and portability, decided I wanted to focus on street photography and got the X100V (new) then broke the bank with the Leica Q2, also new, (I echo everything you say about the Q) and finally an XPro2 (used). You could call it GAS I guess but it all seemed logical to me as I went through different phases of what I wanted to do as a photographer - plus you are a long time dead!
I've found it to be a progression sometimes, but other times i'll get a camera and it will feel like a step backwards. It can be difficult to realise that, and just give up and move on. I struggled for a long time with the Mamiya 7 for example, and i just never liked it. That doesn't mean it's not a great camera - it just didn't suit me at the time.
Phases as a photographer are really interesting to me. Especially when you look at how someone like Joel Meyerowitz or Harry Callahan had many different phases throughout the years.
You guys are dangerous to my wallet, every time I watch an episode I'm ordering a new photo book 🤣. Keep up the good work, love your photography and the channel. 👍
I kinda feel like gears does matter and don't at the same time.
The first camera I ever used was a Nikon D3200. I still use it today I learned a lot. Got my first prime lens a year after
Dream camera is the Fujifilm xpro3 .
I guess I can also say that style plays a big role in cameras with their designs. And a certain type of camera does go with your personality and fashion statements etc .
The type of camera you use also depends on your needs as well
The xpro 3 is a damn great camera. The 2 is equally good imo, if you're looking for something more on a budget.
Totally agree that the type of camera depends on your needs - rather than tech specs, etc
The Q is a great camera and I bought mine instead of a Summilux 28/1.4 for my M240. That's a great combo for me as a press photographer. Nice to learn Shane's view on the Q. Me and GAS ? No, I keep and use my gear, and I'm not following the trend to buy every new product on the market. I still have my 2005 Digilux 2, my M240 is eight years old and the Q four. So no GAS here. Well, to be honest: my bank accountant tells me I have no GAS. Keep on rolling.
The m240 is a camera i've always been curious about. Photos from it look beautiful. I'd imagine it's so nice to use, that you might work around any issues like buffering etc?
@@frame-lines The M240 has IMO no issues, but like all other cameras limitations. The M240 makes you think more creative. Just pressing the release bottom and shooting 100 frames in seconds has nothing to do with photography; it's more like filming. If you choose the right tool for your work, there'll be no issues.
One camera, one lens, yes indeed. Love my recently acquired Q…✌️🇦🇺
I really love your work. I have a Q myself but I'm having a hard time creating the same look as your sample photos in the video. Would you mind sharing the preset that you use?
Changing gear is like dating, how do you know if that camera (and lens) is ‘The One’ if you don’t buy, use and then sell and get something else for a few years, sure some people know right off; but for us mortals trying out gear is part of the journey to finding that camera and lens that will become a permanent fix in our lives. I think it’s a problem if a person starts collecting without using, wasting money because it accumulates dust-or if he/she is going into financial debt to get the newest, best and brightest gear to no avail.
I have the Leica Q. I love it. But i love the old way to. Analog and all. Have the Leica M3 and the older Leica 2f. I still love to develop black and white film.
I think that GAS was meant in a different way. Sometimes you buy a newer camera that isn’t really different from the previous model instead of enjoying the one you already use. I agree with you that it doesn’t matter. Just buy as much cameras as you like if you have the money.
I love my Leica TL which I have had for a number of years but I am seriously considering a Leica Q as my next purchase :)
Man, I’m in the process of purchasing after financially now being to do it without feeling guilty . I shoot multiple film a can and shoot both Sony a’7s and canon, but I think I may take the chance to see how it adds to the language with which i shoot
Hm, for my liking the skin tones of these pics are waaay too orange/saturated, e.g. compare the (embedded) stills to the video footage (right after) at 2:50.
But after all I am a sucker on Fuji's Classic Chrome Simulation (on my Fuji X-E2s with Saturation on +2 though). ;-)
Also these rounded edges on the Leicas is exactly what I don't like (just visually - ergonomically I can understand your point) but I am not interested in one anyway. I much prefer the visual design of the Fuji Rangefinder Styles (X-Pro 3, X-100V, X-E4)...
I like your chilled style of vids - keep it up!
thoroughly enjoyed this review
Glad to hear it!
The nice saturation and tonality of the reds and oranges remind me of darkroom color printing. Maybe it's just your editing technique but it looks great!
Thanks - i really love the reds and oranges from the sensor. I might overdo it a touch, but i like it :)
@@frame-lines Not overdone, I like it :)
Same situation and now moved on to the Q2 (very happy) just bought both book thank you. no luck with your instagram link
I am very curious about the Q2, I have to say :) Thanks for saying about the IG link- i've updated it now.
@@frame-lines my Instagram @frederic_vasquez a few with the Q2 but just starting to get use to it.
In London on the 19 may that should be a better spot to give it a good run 🥳📸
Still lusting for this but after many, many cameras I came to the Sony A7s. It's absolutely amazing and I did not expect it really. 12mp and the images have a film feel to them. It reads light wonderfully and you can go to ISO bonkers. Plus - it's practically free.
That's how i felt about the Canon 6D when i got it. It just read light beautifully - especially low light. Colour always seemed true to what I saw at the time. Despite it being considered an ancient camera at the time :)
@@frame-lines had to to but it wasn’t for me :)
Great to hear you mention Vanessa Winship, wonderful photographer.
isn't she? I really need to get more books by her. I've read a friends copy of 'she dances on jackson' but i dont own it....yet
@@frame-lines That’s a great book, the work is poetic and dark. I’d grab a copy if it is still in print as it’s on its second printing.
I have used the XPRO2 with the 23mm f2 almost exclusively for the past several months. And, while I still have a very long way to go, using one camera and one lens is making me a better photographer (I think). Plus, I don't waste as much time watching RUclips gear reviews.
I use the X100V and it is awesome fixed lenses rule
it sounds like you've found a combination that works for you :)
I resisted digital as long as I could with a Leica R7 and five primes. Then the labs closed down and Fuji NPS went extinct. I have been lost ever since. A decade of Fujis followed. Now I have sold them all including 5 primes and three zooms. I am bouncing back and forth with the idea of the Q or the Q2. I like the flow of the Q2 UI, but the overkill sensor and concomitant loss in low light performance gives me pause. The Q is older and the menus seem more fiddly, but it may not matter. Also, with the Q I will have money left over for a Zuiko 90 f2 for my OM-1 ;^)
I've recently picked up the Q2 and in comparing it to the original Q; the end result (photos) are almost exactly the same. There are practical differences that make the upgrade worth it for me, however. 10bit 4:2:2 video for when I need it. The 45mp sensor makes 35mm crop mode a legitimate option to use full-time. The ergonomics are nicer (solid power button and the FN button on the right-side dial). Firmware updates introduced things like highlight metering mode and iDR. If you loved the Q, you'll love the Q2 just as much. You won't be disappointed with either. In all the cameras I've used- nothing comes close to the Q series in consistently producing great image quality.
GAS bothers my wife for sure, but I think you are absolutely right.
Great review, appreciate the book recommendations at the end. 💫
I really enjoy interviews with Bresson here on RUclips. He’s a lot of fun- and that really comes across in the book too.
Is the Leica Q color renditions same as the M10 ? Or closer to M262.
If I spent that much money on a camera, I would love it regardless of how dysfunctional or unsuited it is to my "shooting style" (whatever that is). I suspect that if other camera manufacturers created bodies like the Q, the consensus would be that the lack of a proper grip was a sub-optimal design decision. Or the lack of customisable controls was a slap in the face to the user. Or the lack of a tilting screen (especially in a street camera) was a blatant oversight. All of these complaints have been lodged against other, cheaper cameras.
Like it or not, cameras are like any other commodity - there is value in prestige as much as in functionality.
That's exactly why i make the point of explaining that we shouldn't get caught up in the technical details of a camera, like flip screens, etc. On paper, i wasn't sure if the Q would suit me because of some of the things you mentioned, like not having a proper grip, and not having enough customisability. However, after trying it - I realised non of those things were really that important to me.
If the Q2 had a flip down screen I’d buy it, it’s just a feature I know I’d miss . Maybe on the three ?
I wouldn't say no to a flip screen on it, as long as it was discreet. 28mm is very suited to low angles and it would make it easier to get them, by placing the camera on the ground and being able to see the lcd more easily.
wow how do you edit these files? looks so filmic!
last year, I had read (one of my 36 Photo-Books) -- "Interviews & Conversations" -- H.C-Bresson
I will check out the 2nd book you suggested -- Frank Horvat Side Walk
like you, i still have my 8 year old 6D . . . . & 16 months old Leica M10-P white
now looking at Q2-Mono or a 28mm lens for my 6D, or selling 6D & getting medium format; too much confusion
Thanks, Regards from India.
I still adore my 6d. I sold my original one in 2019 and missed it sorely, then bought one back and promised myself i'd never sell it again :) I love using the simple 40mm pancake lens on it - have you tried that one?
@@frame-lines i had that lens since 2013 but sold it a year back. Now i want something wider & 35mm is too close to 40, hence 28mm.
Have you had any sensor dust issues with your Q Shane?
been using fuji xe2 ... and it fit for all condition
I have a love/hate relationship with the Q. It produces amazing images but the buffer is terrible. I've lost many images because it just freezes up every now and then and I have to take the battery out to get it working again.
That’s something Josh warned me about before I bought one. I’ve lost a few images to it- but now I just don’t shoot in bursts anymore. I’ve heard the Q2 isn’t much better because they increased the buffer but the files are much bigger?
Mine freezes too. Typically I used a 32GB card. Recently I put a 64GB SanDisk extreme pro and the freezing up has stopped. Maybe coincidence maybe it suits the camera. It's still the best camera I've used so I forgive the Q for its faults.
I love my Q, yet I am itching for an M10 or a Q2. What about your aversion towards EVF? 🙃
It’s a pretty good EVF 🤷🏻♂️ I would prefer an optical viewfinder and i might try a coldshoe ovf when the weather gets a bit better and i can zone focus shoot all day at f8-16
You mention that you use ISO 800 on a regular basis… isn’t the quality of the pictures too much affected? I am fixed to ISO 100 because of that, but maybe the capacity of sensors has evolved…
dude 800 iso is nothing..
Of couse GAS is a problem. It can end up being expensive, and it prevents people from ever becoming really comfortable with that ONE great piece of equipment that after a while almost becomes an extension of their body. It is almost like a guy having loads of girls coming over to his place, yet never loving anyone in particular.
But how do you find that ONE great piece of equipment? There’s no BEST camera out there. Different cameras suit different people, and the only way to find them is to try them rather than relying on reviews and specs, etc. I’ve seen too many photographers stick to a camera they were told is the ‘best one’, only for it to completely suck the joy out of photography for them.
Also don’t compare women to cameras 😅
I think GAS is only a clinic word for searching the gear that works for you. At a certain point you are happy wirh your gear and do not buy and sell gear any more. I also ended up with Leica.
But some people do not finish searching…..
I have GAS. I have a Q. What comes after a Q ? A M240 with a 50mm f2 Summicron ? Got one, no ! In it's own sphere the Q is the pinnacle of my kit. Olympus has come and gone, Cannon been and gone, Fuji X is the new kid on the block. Sony A7Rii is back on the shelf but not for long......The Q isn't perfect for me but it's perfect for what it does. M or Q ? Q.
Would you use one of these as a B/U to a Q2/M?
4:28 - Subtly flipping everyone off :P
Hahah - that would explain why people get so angry with me when I’m just out there focusing normally with the Q
I had GAS bad, and it does exist. I got back into photography with a Fuji X-E2. I loved that camera, but moved it on for an X-Pro 2 because of course, I "had" to upgrade. (Thanks RUclips influencers) Hated that camera (and that fiddly Shutter Speed/ISO dial) so I dumped that kit and moved to a Canon R6. Boring. Took nice pics, but didn't inspire me to get out and take photos. I've been on a quest for the perfect camera and discovered... it doesn't exist. This journey has not been linear. Each disappointment has not taken me to something better. Maybe the Q?
I've gotten to the point where I've reduced down to one type of body per format (135, 67, 645, peel apart) plus one specialty camera in that I have super fast 135 camera for news events/protests/etc. GAS is definitely real tho haha
I dream of someday being that sensible 😂 I have way too many 135 bodies....but I need them all 👀
@@frame-lines haha well a lack of space helps a lot to motivate too! and for the record, when I say "one type per format" I didn't mean one copy haha, I do have 3 of that body
One year ago I grab'd the Q, and all the G.A.S. gone.
I feel like G.A.S. may be real for people who buy cameras and gear they never use. If you're going through gear to try to find the right equipment for you, I believe that is another story entirely. I am constantly browsing ebay for things that would make taking photos more enjoyable for me.
Inspiring me to take the Q out of the drawer!
Do itttt. What are you shooting with lately?
It have G.A.S. but I'm happy to know that sometime I find a piece of equipment that just makes me so happy that the G.A.S. goes away. It happened 3 time in my life and I'm 44.
That is so strange, because it's happened to me 3 times too. With the canon 6d, mamiya 645 and the Q
GAS is definitely real, but it isn't just buying gear. I think it comes down to buying stuff without a clear vision of how you are going to use it. Years ago I bought a drone, for example, with minimal thought put about how I would actually use it. As a result I never really used it and then sold it... What a waste!
I think that's GAS
GAS is definitely real, but I think people confuse it with the moral quandary that you went through. GAS is when you just keep on accumulating gear without really ever using them nor selling them away. What you described is the process of finding the perfect camera through the process of elimination. You buy, use, sell.
GAS on the other hand is more of a hoarding problem. It comes from a deep sense of insecurity and thinking that throwing money at photography will make you better, not investing time and actually learning the darn thing. People with GAS will often own a large quantity of expensive gear but their pictures will look like they were taken on a phone. I know it sounds rude, but it's true. People with GAS are most often than not kinda shite. And they know they're shite and think that the problem will remedy itself if they buy a $5000 lens.
I understand that. However, there are also a lot of bad photographers who stick with the '1 camera and 1 lens' principle because a youtuber or camera club expert quoted Henri Cartier Bresson at them. Being a bad photographer has nothing to do with the amount of gear you accumulate.
I might be wrong, but I really feel like we have so many critical, unhelpful terms and rules in photography that suck the joy of it for most people.
@@frame-lines There absolutely are bad photographers who don't own lots of gear, but I still think that GAS is real since I've seen far too many examples of it. Bad photographers exist in all shapes and sizes absolutely, but I was mainly talking about photographers with GAS. Not all bad photographers have GAS, but most photographers with GAS are pretty bad.
But like I also explicitly mentioned, what makes someone a photographer with GAS is a person who buys lots of gear without ever actually using them. There's also great photographers with lots of gear but you'll notice that they'll use their gear quite often and will always have a specific use for a specific piece of equipment. Vintage lens owners are a perfect example. Some people love collecting vintage lenses for the unique characteristics and "look" each lens gives them. But you'll notice they're almost always using those lenses and putting them to good use. That's what to me differentiates a photographer with GAS and a photographer with lots of gear!
@@frame-lines And I also agree with the second part! There are way too many rules and terms that do nothing but hold you back! I myself personally shoot with an XT10 and a 35mm f2 and a vintage lens with great results, but I'm also mocked by other photographers with insanely expensive gear because I shoot with a "small sensor camera" and "not a 70-200mm 2.8"
Doesn't matter that I still manage to produce better results than them 🤷♂️
I want all the cameras
This is forbidden. You must choose only one.
I feel like if you’re a street photographer it’s probably best to just stick to one camera and one lens, but if you’re doing anything else I guess by all means go for the kit of your dreams haha
I agree that it might be a good choice to go with 1 camera 1 lens for a very specific type of street photography, but I’m into a lot of sub genres which require different formats, bodies and lenses :)
@@frame-lines Facts. Awesome video man! Definitely need the Bresson book you show at the end
Nice video
I'm also going to sell my nikon z and lenses and than I go for the q2
The Q2 is fairly tempting alright. I'm just curious to see if the sensor megapixel upgrade makes any practical difference
@@frame-lines
Maybe only by big prints
I only cured my G.A.S. by buying two cameras instead of one: a workhorse and a more compact cameras; in my case, an X-T2 and an X-E3.
That's what i want to whittle my gear down to- a workhorse XT4 for stills/filming, and the compact Q for ....sheer joy? (also film cameras don't count ok?)
you should have as many cameras and as many lenses as you want. no one else has the right to tell you how many you should have. as long as you get out and shoot something, who cares how many cameras and lenses you have.
Glad you like that 28mm or should I say 24mm :-) I have the Q and it stays in a bag at the bottom of a forgotten cupboard , I cant think of a more useless hipster purchase I hate myself for sucking in all the hype for this expensive paperweight !
Leica Q is the best camera among Leica digital cameras.
new digital technology cured my GAS. these days, I have FAS (film acquisition syndrome)... as far as stills goes, digital has reached its peak years ago. I was happy with my Leica m9 and I regret selling it tbh... I have zero excitement for the new shiny 100mp shit...
Totally agree. I’ve basically been making videos on this channel all about 6yr old digital cameras like the Q and the Canon 6D :)
I still did not find it …
There’s two custom function buttons
There’s 1 full custom function button. The afl button only allows you to pick from 3-4 options
i thought you are 50mm street shooter?
I dabble in 28 :)
Buy more cameras. Take more pictures.
Пол - цены имя, ещё пол цены оптика - остальное , как обычно, но в целом всё - Япония.🤔🤫🤑
Maybe next time be brave and take the lens cap off when showing us the camera.
Haha. I’ll be honest- I only just found the lens cap after losing it the day after i bought the bloody camera. So I’m being a bit precious about it now :)