"Alright. Let's get this straight. You can't win an NFL game 1-0. A single point on its own is impossible. Nor can you win a game 2-1, 3-1, 4-1, 5-1, or 7-1. A 6-1 score is possible, but it requires events so staggeringly, stupidly unlikely it is almost certain to never happen under current NFL rules."
a 1 point safety happened in my NCAA 2005 game for PS2 once. defense intercepted a 2 pt conversion attempt then fumbled it through their own end zone. I was a little surprised the rule was even in the video game lol
Oh, come on--like he would think that there's anything that would top "Personal foul...he was giving him the business." ETA: As seen here: ruclips.net/video/61eq-KjHGfQ/видео.html
I wish this would happen in the NFL, but I want to see the kicking team give up the ball and the defensive team run it back only for the defensive team to fumble to ball on the other side of the field at like the 2 yard line have the kicking team pick it up but retreat into the opposite end zone so that the defending team tackles the kicking team for a safety. That would be wild.
The way I think of it is this: During normal play, TD is worth 6, FG is 3, safety is 2. After a TD, you have one play where all the points get shrunk. TDs are now worth 2, and FGs and safeties are now worth 1
🤓🤓Erm actchually If we are scaling it that way then the safety would have to be 0.67 *or* the conversion and extra points would scale down to 3 and 1.5, respectively ☝🤓
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You say how unlikely this is. But what I want to know is, what are the odds of a 6-1 style safety. The crown jewel of extremely rare and arbitrary football rulings.
It has to either be done deliberately (in which case I imagine it'd be a 13-1 or maybe a 12-1, because nobody in their right mind is going to give their opponent a chance to score and win immediately) or something so staggeringly stupid has to happen on an XP try that its almost impossible.
The only chance I see this happening is if someone blocks a extra point kick, they try and return it and pull a Desean Jackson and by mistake let the ball go, where someone picks it up and gets tackled in the end zone of the kicking team so it's a 1 point safety.
@@andytaquechel6933 Even then, the ball would have to take a weird bounce into the end zone. Or a player would have to whiff the recovery and push it into the end zone where the offensive team recovers. I think the scoragami episode calculated the odds of seeing a 4-4 tie game iirc. It was like once every ~1.7 billion years or something like that. I wonder what the odds would be of seeing a team end a game with 1 point. Its probably impossible to calculate tho since we have no precedent to go on, unlike with safeties. Safeties do sometimes happen, albeit rarely.
@@justfitz08 You're describing a fumble by the kicking team within their own endzone (either a touchback or safety, depending on how it bounces), which is different from what he's describing. He's describing something like: Team A is kicking for extra point. Kick is blocked, picked up by B. B runs almost to A's endzone and fumbles (or laterals into an interception, I suppose), where it is picked up by A (without the ball bouncing into the endzone). A then backs into their own endzone and is tackled for a safety. As far as I can tell, both of your guys' examples would be 1 point safeties for the defense (team B).
In the CFL the one point play happens every game. On a missed field goal the defending team must run the ball out of the end zone or the kicking team gets one point. It actually adds to the strategy late in games because that one point might put a game out of reach and so a team will try for an extra long field goal just so they miss and get the point.
but theyre allowed to just not try to catch the ball right? or are they forced to return it? edit: because the kicking team would just have to kick it out of the end zone, not even through the uprights
Another reason: there are 32 NFL teams and hundreds (?) of college football teams. That's a lot more games per year and opportunities for this to happen in college than the NFL, even each team playing 17 games (plus playoffs) a year versus 12ish per college team.
the thing is though, just like in 2013, that's basically the exact same thing as a successful extra point. You got the 7th point and the scoreboard won't ever tell you that something miraculously weird happened
I was at the Oregon v K-State game. Memorable for many things: Chip Kelly’s final game, Mariota wins his first bowl, my first Fiesta Bowl, DAT running the opening kickoff back, and of course the 1 point safety
You must have been happier than I was watching this game. At least we can call this a better National Championship than the National Championship game that year.
It could also happen if the defense ends up with the ball via interception or fumble... runs it all the way back to the other end but fumbles near the goal line. The original kicking team then recovers the ball and is tackled in their own end zone. Thats how you could have the 6-1 final score explained in the jon bois scoragami video
@@willferrous8677 more if a defender recovered the ball, ran towards the end zone and fumbles near the end zone and the kicking team recovers but runs backwards and commits a safety.
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the scoragami version (i.e. this but on the defense's side, resulting in 6-1) has never happened even in college football; this video is broader than what jon was talking about. also, jon doesnt have infinite dibs to talk about a weird rule, that video is 6 years old
@@jacefairis1289 True, but I'm still getting Bois flashbacks. Also he mentioned the offensive one-point safety and played the full Cherry clip in that video
The kicking team would have to get the kick blocked, returned by the defense but fumbled near the endzone, recovered by someone on the kicking team who then gets tackled inside his own endzone for a safety
My theory on how it happens is this: A coach somehow forgets the clock doesn't run down during the 2-point conversion. So, holding a one score lead at the end of a game, they order the ball run back, including in for a safety if need be. Once they realize, they try to undo, but it's too late. The first one point safety in the NFL.
A more likely scenario would be one team does it just for the hell of it in a meaningless try. The Vikings probably had the only really good chance to do this (and actually justify it) after their Minneapolis Miracle play - the refs actually went into the Vikings' locker room like 20 minutes after the game and forced 11 of them to go back on the field for the try. The Vikings chose to simply take a knee, but, had they chosen, they could have walked the ball back to their own end zone and taken the 1-point safety (they won the game by 5 pts, so a single point wouldn't have mattered). It would have been kind of classless and bizarre but I think they would have been forgiven given that they had to take time out from their victory celebration to run a meaningless play unopposed. Now the rules state that the try is not attempted if there is no time left and the score differential is more than 2, so a repeat of the Minneapolis Miracle situation can't happen, however one can imagine a laugher of a week 18 game where neither side is really trying and one coach just does it if they score with like 0:02 left. I mean, Bill Belichick once let Doug Flutie try a drop kick just for shits and giggles, so never say never.
Prior to the 2015 season, it was virtually impossible for a 1-point safety to be scored in an NFL game. It would have had to go down like this: 1. offense fumbles ball outsize of endzone. 2. defense intentionally bats the ball through the endzone, but does not take possession of ball. In 2015, the NFL rule was modified to allow defenders to possess the ball on a conversion attempt, which increases the likelihood of a 1-point safety being scored.
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I am proud to say I've done this in backyard football I had the spring-loaded power up when they scored, blocked the kick then ran it back and I was like "what, that's 1 point?"
What makes the rule really unusual is that EITHER team can end up getting the point from this. This means that somehow the kicking team would have to recover a blocked kick that was still live, be forced all the way back to their own end zone, then be tackled there.1 point to the defense. Another odd rule is the 2-point interception return off a 2-point conversion.
7:34 - Oddly enough, that example you gave would NOT be a 1 point safety in NCAA. All fouls (with few exceptions to carry over) are declined by rule after a change of possession on a try.
I feel like a player might do this in garbage time just to be the first time it happened. Snap directly to the kicker who turns around, runs backward a ways and drop kicks it out of the back of his own end zone before the defense can tackle him out of pure confusion. Go down in history as the first 1 point safety in the NFL. Then never do it again.
I think it could happen on a two point conversion, with a Pats/Seahawks *that* interception type deal on the one yard line, where the defender, realizing they've intercepted the ball, goes to celebrate with their teammates thinking the play is over, before getting pummeled in their own endzone by the offense. Or maybe they go to throw the ball into the stands or whatever, out the back of their own endzone. Bonus points if this is a two point attempt for the lead at the end of the game (because the team doesn't trust overtime or something) and the defender accidentally ties the game.
How do they get all the way back to their own endzone? The ONLY way that is likely is if somehow someone gets disoriented enough to run all the way back there.
Its so great that they have Clara on the team. She’s so funny and adds so many interesting comments / content. Super hilarious… I love that she often narrates these videos now. Awesome. WAY more interesting and much more comical than John, and Will. For sure..
The ref's name, Ron Cherry, is a perfect combination of the former long-running hosts of Hockey Night in Canada, whose names were Ron McLean and Don Cherry!
Malcom Butler almost made that mistake. He ran out of the end zone instead of taking the touchback, then he hesitates and his teammates had to push him back over the 1 yard line
Wasn't this new NFL rule put in because it wasn't fair that a play could be ran in which only one team could potentially score? Like the defense should get attempt to run a blocked kick back for a score instead of the ball being dead the moment the defense gets possession.
0:55 "It looks like you're trying to introduce a video..." Also, the robot you've described would definitely be Cleetus's referee second cousin named Tweetus. (Get it? Because it blows a whistle?)
When I heard it is safety on PAT I was like: So it was probably for 2 points and defence picked the ball and run for 2 pts. But probably someone from offence run past him and tackled him just before endzone resultingin fumble picked by someone from offence at 1 yard line or even close to endzone but his momentum pushed him in and he was tackled there. Than me sawing actual safety: Well, that's easier way of doing that
There's always the potential ball snapped over the holders head, them some "holy roller" type action with the kicking team recovering in their own end zone....
It would require both teams to mess up as in Player brings it all the way back and fumbles it at the one which is recovered by the other team for that 1 point safety and that played get tackles or downs the ball.
“In the NFL, a 1-0 score is impossible, right? You can’t just score 1 point by itself, it’s not mathematically achievable. 1-1 is an impossible score, so are 2-1, 3-1, 4-1, 5-1, and 7-1. 6-1 *is* possible. Thanks to an obscure loophole in the NFL rule book a final score of 6-1 can technically happen. It would require a turn of events so staggeringly, stupidly unlikely that I’m almost positive it will never happen under current NFL rules, but because it’s technically possible, a score of 6-1 is the crown jewel of Scorigami, a word I made up. It’s the art of building final scores that have never happened before in NFL history. Even after a century of play, and more than 15,000 games, this beautiful craft is still alive today.”
What is interesting is this has happened twice that I know of, and Brad Nessler did both games. Listen to his commentary about it, because it is really good.
There was that play a few years back where Louisiana Tech lost 90 yards on a bad snap as multiple players tried to pick it up and failed, just knocking the ball ever further back. If it happened on a conversion attempt and one more attempt at picking it up failed ... that's about the most plausible way of getting the *really* weird result of the defense scoring a one-point safety. (The offense doing it is weird enough, but it doesn't look all that weird on the score line - it's the same result as a successful kicked PAT.)
Not sure about the NFL, but the "safety by penalty after an interception in the end zone on a try" isn't possible in NCAA rules. That penalty is declined by rule.
This has happened to Texas A&M against Texas. In 2004 on a blocked XP was brought out of the endzone and then brought back into the endzone. I have a strong memory of seeing this happen a second time in the 2010 game as well but I cannot find any evidence to support it. I've also found reference to an instance in a 1971 game between Syracuse and Indiana
As a Duck fan I remember the one-point safety from the fiesta bowl. I don’t think I thought a whole lot about it at the time, but in retrospect, wow what a weird rule
Only way I can think of it applying is if, for some reason a defensive player recovers the ball in the end zone on a two-point conversion OR an extra point, takes it out of the end zone, then goes back in and gets downed in the end zone. Seems unlikely that happens on a PAT, but if a 15-yard penalty gets enforced on the try, who knows?
It makes sense because if they actually returned the block to the other endzone they would only get 1 point. In the CFL they score 1 point every time they missed a field goal attempt which is one of the many different rules the CFL has.
Let’s be real here, the weird rules mascot would be a robotic platypus. Gives all of the software explained already, but is a weird rule by itself by being a platypus.
The one player I think of who could pull this off would be Leon Lett of the Dallas cowboys. The rule would have to have been in place that the play was not dead, the same way it is today, but Leon could have done it. This is a guy who blundered so badly in a game that he went after a dead ball after a missed field goal, and gave Miami a second shot to win the game.
If the extra point was blocked and returned and the returner had the ball knocked out from behind and it went into the kicking team's endzone or perhaps out of the back of the endzone. Would that be a one-point safety for the blocking team? A touchback would not seem to fit because the scoring team has to kick off.
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"Alright. Let's get this straight. You can't win an NFL game 1-0. A single point on its own is impossible. Nor can you win a game 2-1, 3-1, 4-1, 5-1, or 7-1. A 6-1 score is possible, but it requires events so staggeringly, stupidly unlikely it is almost certain to never happen under current NFL rules."
Pov scorigami
who are u quoting
@@waltermckee3586 Jon Bois of course
@@waltermckee3586 Jon 🅱️ois
@@waltermckee3586 the Boi
in this house we root for Scorigami
It's funny how this channel feels like 80% Jon Bois and 20% everyone else even though obviously it's not
@@man4437 That's what makes things pretty good around here
@@man4437 Jon Bois had his own channel with most of his stuff, then it all got dumped in SB.
6-1 or bust! (I realize the play in this video would not result in that score)
Someday it'll happen, someday
a 1 point safety happened in my NCAA 2005 game for PS2 once. defense intercepted a 2 pt conversion attempt then fumbled it through their own end zone. I was a little surprised the rule was even in the video game lol
Well they had to code something in or else the game would break so may as well make it accurate
No say that’s in the current games
Ron Cherry watching this trying to decide how to feel about his legacy being "we have an unusual ruling on the field"
That’s an amazing crowning achievement as a referee, come on
Oh, come on--like he would think that there's anything that would top "Personal foul...he was giving him the business."
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@@insertclevername4123 yes!
No one expect you is thinking that.
@@insertclevername4123 yeah that's the legacy call.
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I wish this would happen in the NFL, but I want to see the kicking team give up the ball and the defensive team run it back only for the defensive team to fumble to ball on the other side of the field at like the 2 yard line have the kicking team pick it up but retreat into the opposite end zone so that the defending team tackles the kicking team for a safety. That would be wild.
Gotta make this a Fumble Dimension video, wildest one point safeties.
I feel like weirder things have happened but nothing quite so specific
@@purplefood1 I think there is a TD play where possession changes 3 times
@@TheAIGhostwriter_MinorMiracle I'd assume a TD after 6 or 7 turnovers would occur before the 80 yd safety.
Yeah because it’s basically the same as an extra point
The way I think of it is this:
During normal play, TD is worth 6, FG is 3, safety is 2. After a TD, you have one play where all the points get shrunk. TDs are now worth 2, and FGs and safeties are now worth 1
This is staggeringly brilliant..
🤓🤓Erm actchually If we are scaling it that way then the safety would have to be 0.67 *or* the conversion and extra points would scale down to 3 and 1.5, respectively ☝🤓
Never underestimate a player's lack of knowledge or lack of awareness. In every sport, at every level, you hear a commentator say, "That's a rookie mistake," or something to that affect.
Every time there is a tie in the NFL, some star player says “I didn’t even know we could tie”
Everybody makes mistakes no matter their experience level.
@@dstinnettmusic McNabb said he didn't know there could be ties even though a tie happened only a few years before he was in one lol
Leon Lett. .Mic Drop.
No one would expect a major league fielder to chase a runner back to home plate instead of just covering 1st, but it happened.
You say how unlikely this is. But what I want to know is, what are the odds of a 6-1 style safety. The crown jewel of extremely rare and arbitrary football rulings.
This was kinda covered in Scorigami
It has to either be done deliberately (in which case I imagine it'd be a 13-1 or maybe a 12-1, because nobody in their right mind is going to give their opponent a chance to score and win immediately) or something so staggeringly stupid has to happen on an XP try that its almost impossible.
The only chance I see this happening is if someone blocks a extra point kick, they try and return it and pull a Desean Jackson and by mistake let the ball go, where someone picks it up and gets tackled in the end zone of the kicking team so it's a 1 point safety.
@@andytaquechel6933 Even then, the ball would have to take a weird bounce into the end zone. Or a player would have to whiff the recovery and push it into the end zone where the offensive team recovers.
I think the scoragami episode calculated the odds of seeing a 4-4 tie game iirc. It was like once every ~1.7 billion years or something like that. I wonder what the odds would be of seeing a team end a game with 1 point. Its probably impossible to calculate tho since we have no precedent to go on, unlike with safeties. Safeties do sometimes happen, albeit rarely.
@@justfitz08 You're describing a fumble by the kicking team within their own endzone (either a touchback or safety, depending on how it bounces), which is different from what he's describing. He's describing something like: Team A is kicking for extra point. Kick is blocked, picked up by B. B runs almost to A's endzone and fumbles (or laterals into an interception, I suppose), where it is picked up by A (without the ball bouncing into the endzone). A then backs into their own endzone and is tackled for a safety.
As far as I can tell, both of your guys' examples would be 1 point safeties for the defense (team B).
In the CFL the one point play happens every game. On a missed field goal the defending team must run the ball out of the end zone or the kicking team gets one point. It actually adds to the strategy late in games because that one point might put a game out of reach and so a team will try for an extra long field goal just so they miss and get the point.
but theyre allowed to just not try to catch the ball right? or are they forced to return it?
edit: because the kicking team would just have to kick it out of the end zone, not even through the uprights
@@asdf14051 Here is a wiki article on it, it is often called a Rouge. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_(football)
@@asdf14051 it's a live ball if you don't catch it the kicking team can recover it and score a td
@@FFG_318_Heavy what if it goes thru the endzone
@@asdf14051 if no one touches it the kicking team gets the one point
Another reason: there are 32 NFL teams and hundreds (?) of college football teams. That's a lot more games per year and opportunities for this to happen in college than the NFL, even each team playing 17 games (plus playoffs) a year versus 12ish per college team.
131 teams in FBS football for the 2022 season, and of course a lot more beneath that level
Also the NFL players are much better, more talented, faster, and a lot smarter than college players.
Happened to me when I was coaching a JV High School game. My defender intercepted, ran back 5 yards & was tackled lol
Running scared is how I imagine that.
Wait, this was in Texas? Because nfhs doesn't have this.
the thing is though, just like in 2013, that's basically the exact same thing as a successful extra point. You got the 7th point and the scoreboard won't ever tell you that something miraculously weird happened
@@Goomlahexpress UIL (The governing body) uses NCAA rules. Same reason why TX doesn’t have sideline technology
@@OH_MY_DOGGG he thought he was much faster than the other team 😂😂
I was at the Oregon v K-State game. Memorable for many things: Chip Kelly’s final game, Mariota wins his first bowl, my first Fiesta Bowl, DAT running the opening kickoff back, and of course the 1 point safety
Odd things seem to follow Marcus Mariota.
You must have been happier than I was watching this game. At least we can call this a better National Championship than the National Championship game that year.
@@OH_MY_DOGGG His pass to himself is a classic.
It could also happen if the defense ends up with the ball via interception or fumble... runs it all the way back to the other end but fumbles near the goal line. The original kicking team then recovers the ball and is tackled in their own end zone. Thats how you could have the 6-1 final score explained in the jon bois scoragami video
I thought jon already told us that it was forbidden
Yes it's a one point saftey, but it sort of looks normal because it's an extra point. I want to see the one point saftey resulting in that 6-1 score!
We all do, buddy
That's the Dark Scorigami. Grandparental discretion is advised to hear about it
If a QB, on a 2pt-try, deliberately ran all the way back on his own end zone and then out of bounds... would that be considered funny?
@@willferrous8677 more if a defender recovered the ball, ran towards the end zone and fumbles near the end zone and the kicking team recovers but runs backwards and commits a safety.
@@GarisonC i can't decide which is funnier
absolutely love the first mascot, use him more often pls
edit: name idea: Scorigami Jr.
It happens only 2 times, 2003 Texas vs Texas a&m, 2012 Oregon vs Kansas state
And Brad Nessler was the play by play for both of them.
Texas vs Texas gotta be the best BBQs out there outside the man what the hell is going on with a damn loading
@@NOT-A-Monolith so true
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I deff wanna see a rewind on Kirby Puckett homer. That’s a great idea
@@jamesm3471 that should be in the Worst lol
Anyone else getting Jon Bois Scoregami flashbacks?
the scoragami version (i.e. this but on the defense's side, resulting in 6-1) has never happened even in college football; this video is broader than what jon was talking about. also, jon doesnt have infinite dibs to talk about a weird rule, that video is 6 years old
@@jacefairis1289 True, but I'm still getting Bois flashbacks. Also he mentioned the offensive one-point safety and played the full Cherry clip in that video
I've tried to explain this to people so many times and I get blank stares lol. Going to send them this.
I'd be particularly curious about the possibility of a 1 point safety on the part of the kicking team. THAT would be a real oddity.
The kicking team would have to get the kick blocked, returned by the defense but fumbled near the endzone, recovered by someone on the kicking team who then gets tackled inside his own endzone for a safety
@@michelecozzarin That seems like a remarkably unlikely scenario, but at least there's a rule for it!
Love will, love clara. great ep
Ok, but I actually love the mascot drawing at the beginning of the episode. Can we keep him?
The fact that Brad Nessler was the lead commentator for TV coverage of BOTH instances of this happening in college football blows my mind...
Please keep the not-Wall-E mascot with the wide rectangle head and big eyes. I love him.
My theory on how it happens is this: A coach somehow forgets the clock doesn't run down during the 2-point conversion. So, holding a one score lead at the end of a game, they order the ball run back, including in for a safety if need be. Once they realize, they try to undo, but it's too late. The first one point safety in the NFL.
A coach not knowing a rule is indeed the most likely scenario for any game event - or pre or post-game event - in all sports amateur or pro, period.
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A more likely scenario would be one team does it just for the hell of it in a meaningless try. The Vikings probably had the only really good chance to do this (and actually justify it) after their Minneapolis Miracle play - the refs actually went into the Vikings' locker room like 20 minutes after the game and forced 11 of them to go back on the field for the try.
The Vikings chose to simply take a knee, but, had they chosen, they could have walked the ball back to their own end zone and taken the 1-point safety (they won the game by 5 pts, so a single point wouldn't have mattered). It would have been kind of classless and bizarre but I think they would have been forgiven given that they had to take time out from their victory celebration to run a meaningless play unopposed.
Now the rules state that the try is not attempted if there is no time left and the score differential is more than 2, so a repeat of the Minneapolis Miracle situation can't happen, however one can imagine a laugher of a week 18 game where neither side is really trying and one coach just does it if they score with like 0:02 left. I mean, Bill Belichick once let Doug Flutie try a drop kick just for shits and giggles, so never say never.
Prior to the 2015 season, it was virtually impossible for a 1-point safety to be scored in an NFL game. It would have had to go down like this:
1. offense fumbles ball outsize of endzone.
2. defense intentionally bats the ball through the endzone, but does not take possession of ball.
In 2015, the NFL rule was modified to allow defenders to possess the ball on a conversion attempt, which increases the likelihood of a 1-point safety being scored.
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But what about the true 1 point safety that can have a game finish with a score of 6-1?
Exactly..
I am proud to say I've done this in backyard football I had the spring-loaded power up when they scored, blocked the kick then ran it back and I was like "what, that's 1 point?"
Speaking of Backyard Football, didn't one of the mascot concepts they drew in this episode look an awful lot like Mr. Clanky?
I think what you are explaining here should have been a defensive 2-point conversion, NOT a 1-point safety...
@@bevstarrunner9472 mightve been that I just remember a weird ruling 22 years ago due to that setup
@@ianL-S hwat
What makes the rule really unusual is that EITHER team can end up getting the point from this. This means that somehow the kicking team would have to recover a blocked kick that was still live, be forced all the way back to their own end zone, then be tackled there.1 point to the defense.
Another odd rule is the 2-point interception return off a 2-point conversion.
Video starts at 2:30
Fr thx
This is my favorite way to score in football
Not playing Jon Bois' clip about how it could happen is a travesty
7:34 - Oddly enough, that example you gave would NOT be a 1 point safety in NCAA. All fouls (with few exceptions to carry over) are declined by rule after a change of possession on a try.
Your offices are just similar enough for me to feel like both halves were recorded separately in the same room
I feel like a player might do this in garbage time just to be the first time it happened. Snap directly to the kicker who turns around, runs backward a ways and drop kicks it out of the back of his own end zone before the defense can tackle him out of pure confusion.
Go down in history as the first 1 point safety in the NFL. Then never do it again.
I think it could happen on a two point conversion, with a Pats/Seahawks *that* interception type deal on the one yard line, where the defender, realizing they've intercepted the ball, goes to celebrate with their teammates thinking the play is over, before getting pummeled in their own endzone by the offense. Or maybe they go to throw the ball into the stands or whatever, out the back of their own endzone. Bonus points if this is a two point attempt for the lead at the end of the game (because the team doesn't trust overtime or something) and the defender accidentally ties the game.
How do they get all the way back to their own endzone? The ONLY way that is likely is if somehow someone gets disoriented enough to run all the way back there.
Its so great that they have Clara on the team. She’s so funny and adds so many interesting comments / content. Super hilarious… I love that she often narrates these videos now. Awesome. WAY more interesting and much more comical than John, and Will. For sure..
"He was givin him the business."
-Ron Cherry
The ref's name, Ron Cherry, is a perfect combination of the former long-running hosts of Hockey Night in Canada, whose names were Ron McLean and Don Cherry!
Hot damn, what an oddly satisfying outro, and ad-read no less! Will Buikema, like this channel at large, is a National Treasure.
Malcom Butler almost made that mistake. He ran out of the end zone instead of taking the touchback, then he hesitates and his teammates had to push him back over the 1 yard line
Wasn't this new NFL rule put in because it wasn't fair that a play could be ran in which only one team could potentially score? Like the defense should get attempt to run a blocked kick back for a score instead of the ball being dead the moment the defense gets possession.
I think it was part of the NFL trying to spice up the extra point
0:55 "It looks like you're trying to introduce a video..."
Also, the robot you've described would definitely be Cleetus's referee second cousin named Tweetus. (Get it? Because it blows a whistle?)
Sad to see we'll never see the mythical 4-5 scorigami
The little robot running around in the background was awesome.
Video starts at 2:30, thank me later
Would you guys ever cover the “John Scott” rule from NHL? Or is that too current?
Mr. Clanky for weird rules mascot. Vote 2022.
Jon Bois is so hot
Roses are red
My dog is drooling
On the previous play
We have an unusual ruling
Great job on this one animators!
When I heard it is safety on PAT I was like: So it was probably for 2 points and defence picked the ball and run for 2 pts. But probably someone from offence run past him and tackled him just before endzone resultingin fumble picked by someone from offence at 1 yard line or even close to endzone but his momentum pushed him in and he was tackled there.
Than me sawing actual safety:
Well, that's easier way of doing that
The Panther's failed draft of Alexander Ovechkin deserves a mention
my main takeaway from this video is that Will and Clara have identical bookshelves
I'm just waiting to see a game end in 4 points for one team, even better, a 4-0.
There's always the potential ball snapped over the holders head, them some "holy roller" type action with the kicking team recovering in their own end zone....
Love Will and Clara videos.
This is right up therewith Ron's "he was giving him the business" call
Can't believe they didn't reference the potential 6-1 dark art scorigami
It would require both teams to mess up as in Player brings it all the way back and fumbles it at the one which is recovered by the other team for that 1 point safety and that played get tackles or downs the ball.
In Canadian football we won a game last year 1-0
Ron Cherry is the best. “Giving him the business “ was great
I was a player during one of the games where he called that! Maryland-NC State 2007
If you had to guess one referee that would have to report the one point safety . . .
I prefer the one-point safety that gives the defense the point.
The mascot should be the announcer that announced both 1 point safety games
Opponents respect the amount of casualties a retreat lets them inflict on the enemy
The dark arts of Scoragami have returned to the light.
loved the animations on this one
“In the NFL, a 1-0 score is impossible, right? You can’t just score 1 point by itself, it’s not mathematically achievable. 1-1 is an impossible score, so are 2-1, 3-1, 4-1, 5-1, and 7-1. 6-1 *is* possible. Thanks to an obscure loophole in the NFL rule book a final score of 6-1 can technically happen. It would require a turn of events so staggeringly, stupidly unlikely that I’m almost positive it will never happen under current NFL rules, but because it’s technically possible, a score of 6-1 is the crown jewel of Scorigami, a word I made up. It’s the art of building final scores that have never happened before in NFL history. Even after a century of play, and more than 15,000 games, this beautiful craft is still alive today.”
What is interesting is this has happened twice that I know of, and Brad Nessler did both games. Listen to his commentary about it, because it is really good.
I believe it's happened one other time in a division 3 college game.
When a chalkboard rendition of Wall-E is mentioned in the video:
“Don’t for the love of god sue us Disney”.
- some lawyer, probably
The Dark Art of Scoragami. About time we touched on this lol
After seeing the new Weird Rules mascot behind Will’s shoulder, I need him to be a regular for every show
There was that play a few years back where Louisiana Tech lost 90 yards on a bad snap as multiple players tried to pick it up and failed, just knocking the ball ever further back. If it happened on a conversion attempt and one more attempt at picking it up failed ... that's about the most plausible way of getting the *really* weird result of the defense scoring a one-point safety. (The offense doing it is weird enough, but it doesn't look all that weird on the score line - it's the same result as a successful kicked PAT.)
Running backwards in football only worked for Reggie Bush lol.
Except that one time he met Shepard
1-point Steve sounds like a cool compliment
based on that initial robot mascot design, i think we figured out whatever happened to robot jones
Not sure about the NFL, but the "safety by penalty after an interception in the end zone on a try" isn't possible in NCAA rules. That penalty is declined by rule.
Beef history
Scorigami fans vs the 1 point safety
This has happened to Texas A&M against Texas. In 2004 on a blocked XP was brought out of the endzone and then brought back into the endzone. I have a strong memory of seeing this happen a second time in the 2010 game as well but I cannot find any evidence to support it.
I've also found reference to an instance in a 1971 game between Syracuse and Indiana
I just realized the awkward glances when you're not saying anything, I knew I wasn't the only person that did that in video calls
I would die for the whistle character at the beginning 🥺
ngl that first lil guy with the referee shirt should be the weird rules mascot, they look happy to tell you about odd stuff in sports
"It would be a lot nicer if players respected the retreat"
"Yeah, like in war"
The Mongols: "I'll just leave"
I got to see the other 1 point safety in person. 2004 Texas A&M vs tu.
Clara accidentally just reinvented the Infobots from Ratchet and Clank
As a Duck fan I remember the one-point safety from the fiesta bowl. I don’t think I thought a whole lot about it at the time, but in retrospect, wow what a weird rule
Only way I can think of it applying is if, for some reason a defensive player recovers the ball in the end zone on a two-point conversion OR an extra point, takes it out of the end zone, then goes back in and gets downed in the end zone.
Seems unlikely that happens on a PAT, but if a 15-yard penalty gets enforced on the try, who knows?
It makes sense because if they actually returned the block to the other endzone they would only get 1 point. In the CFL they score 1 point every time they missed a field goal attempt which is one of the many different rules the CFL has.
I like how the mascot they explained in the beginning is just bad robot productions logo lol
Jon Bois did a great video that mentioned this a couple years ago lol
"I am never going to see a Merman... Ever."
Let’s be real here, the weird rules mascot would be a robotic platypus. Gives all of the software explained already, but is a weird rule by itself by being a platypus.
I love the idea of a flawed clippy for the shows mascot
The one player I think of who could pull this off would be Leon Lett of the Dallas cowboys. The rule would have to have been in place that the play was not dead, the same way it is today, but Leon could have done it. This is a guy who blundered so badly in a game that he went after a dead ball after a missed field goal, and gave Miami a second shot to win the game.
Obligatory comment on how Jon Bois taught us this rule already. Don't fret, this is for the algorithm.
If the extra point was blocked and returned and the returner had the ball knocked out from behind and it went into the kicking team's endzone or perhaps out of the back of the endzone. Would that be a one-point safety for the blocking team? A touchback would not seem to fit because the scoring team has to kick off.