I recently purchased a RA2 pro to replace my roller only that I've had for about 4 years now and I'm couldn't be happier. However I guess you could use the ability to turn tumblers on end to engrave a logo on the bottom
3:09 I’ve seen folks with galvo lasers use a rotary pointed straight up like a turntable to do multiple items at once since they are limited on workspace. Burn a job, rotate in the next one like a revolver, repeat. Not something us with XY machines need, but still really neat that they built this capability in.
Yes, this is why I pointed out that you can rotate the chuck straight upward. In the case of a fiber laser you would typically create a turntable that can be mounted on the chuck where you can load parts and engrave in volume. This rotary should work with any laser where you can connect and extra stepper motor and fiber lasers are no exception - though not all fiber lasers have an separate rotary output.
Just looked it up but only found the KR Pro rotary - interested to check out what the difference is. I only have the RA1 for my xTOOL D1 Pro but within weeks of getting it, I was seeing the RA2 everywhere. Not keen for something similar to happen again so I want to look into it first. Great tool, though, regardless. I have spare stepper motors and was going to build one with a chuck but I do like the look of this.
People on various social media platforms always say Diode lazers can't etch/engrave on plain stainless steel without using cermark or equivalent product. It looks like you didn't use anything, is that accurate?
Very interesting. I own an Atezr P20+ but i have the X-tool RA2. It might be worth it to upgrade, from what you've shown. On thing though : you did not mention anything about the risers for the machine. And without risers, there can be no work with a roller or a chuck, so are the risers we can see on your machine custom-made or 3D-printed? Did you purchase them (if yes, where?)
Sorry you are correct. The KR 20 kit also comes with replacement feet for the Atezr lasers. These obviously won't work for a non-Atezr laser, but I probably wouldn't use them on my V20/V35 either. It would be far better to leave the existing feet on the laser and just use corner blocks to raise the laser up when you are using the rotary. This would avoid having to pull all the screws to constantly swap between short and tall feet.
Thanks for your video. I would like to engrave gourds which can be 8 to 10 inches in Diameter or longer than the base appears to be for the hour glass shaped ones.. also interested in engraving bamboo. I can’t even get shipping info from Atezr re the new gen 36 w laser which I would order from them if it would match my travel plans. Not courting new customers like they should.
Right now, manufacturers should be going above and beyond to lock in sales. If you’re engraving gourds I can’t imagine you would need a 36W laser anyway. Atezr has the best rotary but it will work on any other laser. If you did want a 30+W laser, for around the same money I would choose the Acmer P2. I also have a review of the AlgoLaser Delta coming up in a few days. It’s only a 22W but it works like a 33W and has some very nice innovations not found on any other laser.
Yes, absolutely. There are two cable configurations for steppers and lasers may use either depending on the company. Steer provides cables for both, so if one doesn't work the other one should.
I can't get rotary chuck to hold on to heavy dollar store tapered glasses. It don't matter if I try to grip them from the small end or the wide end, they slip out of the the chuck. And, it also doesn't matter if I grip them outside or inside. Any ideas?
Certainly an improvement, perhaps for some but at $300 it is overpriced as most of their accessories are. I'd jump on it if in Steve's shoes as well :)
My shoes are the same as everyone else’s 😁. But given that it is the same price as the RA2 Pro it is certainly priced right relative to that one. However if you are just looking for a run-of-the-mill roller then you can buy several that are cheaper. You will get what you pay for though.
I haven’t seen this rotary so I can’t say for sure, but as long as it has a standard stepper motor plug it should work (you may need a different cable though since there are two variants on the rectangular stepper plug)
Hey Steve thanks for the great videos! I don’t really love my rotary that I got from FSL. I just ordered this set and would love some advice on how you got it to work with the Muse 3D. Thank you!
Lol I also have an FSL rotary. It sits in the cabinet. If you want to know how to make a different rotary work with the Muse3D look in my video backlog and find one that I did for engraving mugs with handles. In there I show how I modified my Muse to accept a standard rotary attachment
@@SteveMakesEverything lol I get it! Great laser, not great attachment. Thank you so much for responding and I will look it up. Keep up the great work! If it wasn’t for you I would be lost with my laser!
@@SteveMakesEverything also thank you for the alignment video. I went by the FSL manual the first time around and got it waaay out of alignment. Their process in the manual is just not correct.
@@karicunningham8292 I ran into the same issues with their docs. If you want an even more detailed view of alignment then watch the video I did for aligning my DIY laser. It has the same beam path and similar optic mounts and I go into a lot more detail there.
Hey Steve, Watching your video AGAIN and noticed the KR Pro link is returning a 404 page error. Also looks like the company went "missing on their "official" site..... Just an FYI... Hank
Is it possible to use this thing with an xtool D1 Pro? I bought one but the connecting wires don't fit into the xtool D1Pro. Has anyone solved that problem? I'm afraid I'm going to have to send it back, but the hardware is so well made on this thing, I wish I could figure it out.
Nicely done Steve, it really does look pretty amazing. I have a rotary chuck which is heavy and cumbersome so I may well look into this. One question if I may, do you think this could be paired to a co2 laser? Cheers Steve.
I did a video a while back (in fact you left a comment on that one too😀) where I plugged my RA2 Pro into my Muse 3D to engrave some mugs with handles. So yes, pretty much any rotary can be connected to any laser. In the case of the Muse I needed to create some different cabling, but for most lasers that use Lightburn, the KN Pro should just work with one of the two cables Atezr provides. It is certainly a much nicer offering than the one FSL provides for the Muse and is about half the price as well. Other CO2 laser sellers are similarly priced and also not nearly as nice as the KN Pro. I'm happy to try this on my SP-3624 laser and put a RUclips Short up to show it if you want.
Can I ask what Speed and Power settings would you use on colored tumblers and the same on the Stainless Steel Tumbler you did with LIFE IS BETTER ON A BOAT?
This would very much depend on the laser you're using, so you might have to play around a bit. The power will generally need to be high and the speed fairly low.
The short answer is It might, but you may end up creating your own cable. The rotary itself is just a stepper motor and that should work on pretty much any laser.
Do you need lightburn for this chuck to work with the xtool D1, or will it work with laserbox basic or creative space from xtool (is g-code still g-code in all these software options for the D1)? Thanks.
Interesting question, but I'm not sure. Certainly, the laser will turn the rotary but I don't think there's a way to set the steps/rev. xTool assumes you're using an RA2 Pro
I did a video a while back to engrave glasses with handles on the Muse 3D and I did a modification to accept the RA2 Pro. The KR Pro would work with the same process.
I’m looking for rotary attachment that can handle straight 1.375”-1.5” diameter anodized aluminum tubing that’s 15”-24” long. Do you think this would be a good solution? I’m also considering the xTool RA-2. Any guidance or advice would be fantastic. Thanks for the great information!
The. KR pro is a bit more sturdy than the RA2 But I’m not sure either of these can handle you use case unless you can find a way to hold the other end of a 24” piece
@@SteveMakesEverything We could fabricate an extended base for the KR-Pro chuck rotary. I’m guessing that plate is just screwed on. Agree? For the roller version, as long as the rollers can be brought closer together (unclear from docs) there’s an end support component in the kit that seems like it can be placed anywhere. As long as we weight the tube to be engraved (something cylindrical and heavy) that seems like it could also work, too?
I was thinking of adding a connector to the roller version (non chuck) so I could plug it into my omtech 80 W co2. I know that the omtech 80W c02 uses a nema 23. Do you know what size stepper is used in the KR pro?
The nema 17 motor in the the KR pro should still work. The stepper controller should be able to run any stepper, but you might have to check the settings switches on the driver to make sure it won’t drive more than 1.5A into the smaller motor
I just looked at the cable that came with the FSL PS24 rotary attachment. It has a round 4 pin plug to plug into the machine and on the other end the 6 pin plug (the same as the one which comes with the Azter) to plug into the rotary attachment itself. Two of the six pins are not used. Ive just bought the Azter myself so I'm going to check it out more once it is delivered.
This product work for 1 month and stop. Now im trying get guarantee but service complaining things for 2 months. Im done with atezr i should buy sculpfun ... Never buy ATEZR! Terrible support
Support from most companies is a bit of a pet peeve of mine. Everyone wants to sell you something but no one wants to support. There really isn't much that can go wrong with a rotary attachment, since it's really only a $20 stepper motor attached to rollers or a chuck. However it is possible to blow the stepper driver if the rotary is plugged in or unplugged while the laser is powered up. If this is what happened then it can certainly happen to any laser - and it's very easy to do. Companies (and RUclipsr makers too 🤔) should do a much better job at pointing this out to people.
@@emce2pl Yes, I understand. The driver for the rotary is on the controller in the laser (as noted the rotary is just a motor). I'm willing to bet that the driver is dead and you will need a new controller. This isn't first complaint I've heard about support for laser products and I've heard some about Atezr, but they aren't unique, so I don't think it's safe to assume that Sculpfun (and I've heard complaints about them too) or any other company is somehow much better. Improving support is an area where every company needs to focus. Some (like xTool or Longer) seem to do it better, but none are what I would call awesome from a support perspective.
I guess opinions will vary. What are you comparing it to? The RA2 Pro, is the same price but isn't nearly as compelling as this kit. However if you just want a basic roller, then yes, you can pick those up for very low prices these days. BTW, cool user name!😀
I recently purchased a RA2 pro to replace my roller only that I've had for about 4 years now and I'm couldn't be happier. However I guess you could use the ability to turn tumblers on end to engrave a logo on the bottom
You could just turning it upside down and engrave it without the rotary. Have to raise the laser up quite a bit though.
3:09 I’ve seen folks with galvo lasers use a rotary pointed straight up like a turntable to do multiple items at once since they are limited on workspace. Burn a job, rotate in the next one like a revolver, repeat. Not something us with XY machines need, but still really neat that they built this capability in.
Yes, this is why I pointed out that you can rotate the chuck straight upward. In the case of a fiber laser you would typically create a turntable that can be mounted on the chuck where you can load parts and engrave in volume.
This rotary should work with any laser where you can connect and extra stepper motor and fiber lasers are no exception - though not all fiber lasers have an separate rotary output.
Just looked it up but only found the KR Pro rotary - interested to check out what the difference is. I only have the RA1 for my xTOOL D1 Pro but within weeks of getting it, I was seeing the RA2 everywhere. Not keen for something similar to happen again so I want to look into it first.
Great tool, though, regardless. I have spare stepper motors and was going to build one with a chuck but
I do like the look of this.
The RA1 and RS2 Pro are still decent rotary attachments, but the KR Pro is the next evolutionary step.
People on various social media platforms always say Diode lazers can't etch/engrave on plain stainless steel without using cermark or equivalent product. It looks like you didn't use anything, is that accurate?
Correct. No need for Cermark when using a diode laser on Stainless Steel. Not sure why people think it would be required, but they are incorrect.
Very interesting. I own an Atezr P20+ but i have the X-tool RA2. It might be worth it to upgrade, from what you've shown.
On thing though : you did not mention anything about the risers for the machine. And without risers, there can be no work with a roller or a chuck, so are the risers we can see on your machine custom-made or 3D-printed? Did you purchase them (if yes, where?)
Sorry you are correct. The KR 20 kit also comes with replacement feet for the Atezr lasers. These obviously won't work for a non-Atezr laser, but I probably wouldn't use them on my V20/V35 either. It would be far better to leave the existing feet on the laser and just use corner blocks to raise the laser up when you are using the rotary. This would avoid having to pull all the screws to constantly swap between short and tall feet.
Thanks for your video. I would like to engrave gourds which can be 8 to 10 inches in Diameter or longer than the base appears to be for the hour glass shaped ones.. also interested in engraving bamboo. I can’t even get shipping info from Atezr re the new gen 36 w laser which I would order from them if it would match my travel plans. Not courting new customers like they should.
Right now, manufacturers should be going above and beyond to lock in sales.
If you’re engraving gourds I can’t imagine you would need a 36W laser anyway. Atezr has the best rotary but it will work on any other laser. If you did want a 30+W laser, for around the same money I would choose the Acmer P2. I also have a review of the AlgoLaser Delta coming up in a few days. It’s only a 22W but it works like a 33W and has some very nice innovations not found on any other laser.
Hi big fan was wondering can this rotary be used with any laser ? Thanks
Yes, absolutely. There are two cable configurations for steppers and lasers may use either depending on the company. Steer provides cables for both, so if one doesn't work the other one should.
I can't get rotary chuck to hold on to heavy dollar store tapered glasses. It don't matter if I try to grip them from the small end or the wide end, they slip out of the the chuck. And, it also doesn't matter if I grip them outside or inside. Any ideas?
Try to grip it from the inside by expanding the chuck and using pins. If not you may have to use a roller. Some items are just too heavy
Certainly an improvement, perhaps for some but at $300 it is overpriced as most of their accessories are. I'd jump on it if in Steve's shoes as well :)
My shoes are the same as everyone else’s 😁.
But given that it is the same price as the RA2 Pro it is certainly priced right relative to that one. However if you are just looking for a run-of-the-mill roller then you can buy several that are cheaper. You will get what you pay for though.
did you know if Atomstack Maker R1 rotary compatible with xtool ?
I haven’t seen this rotary so I can’t say for sure, but as long as it has a standard stepper motor plug it should work (you may need a different cable though since there are two variants on the rectangular stepper plug)
Hey Steve thanks for the great videos! I don’t really love my rotary that I got from FSL. I just ordered this set and would love some advice on how you got it to work with the Muse 3D. Thank you!
Lol I also have an FSL rotary. It sits in the cabinet. If you want to know how to make a different rotary work with the Muse3D look in my video backlog and find one that I did for engraving mugs with handles. In there I show how I modified my Muse to accept a standard rotary attachment
@@SteveMakesEverything lol I get it! Great laser, not great attachment. Thank you so much for responding and I will look it up. Keep up the great work! If it wasn’t for you I would be lost with my laser!
@@SteveMakesEverything also thank you for the alignment video. I went by the FSL manual the first time around and got it waaay out of alignment. Their process in the manual is just not correct.
@@karicunningham8292 I ran into the same issues with their docs. If you want an even more detailed view of alignment then watch the video I did for aligning my DIY laser. It has the same beam path and similar optic mounts and I go into a lot more detail there.
@@SteveMakesEverything I sure will! Thank you again Steve! You have truly made a difference for us!
Any thoughts on this vs the atomstack r1 pro? Basically the same units?
I think they are very similar. It hasn’t been completely clear, but I believe, Atomstack, Atezr, IKier are all part of the same company.
Hey Steve, Watching your video AGAIN and noticed the KR Pro link is returning a 404 page error. Also looks like the company went "missing on their "official" site..... Just an FYI... Hank
Hmm. I’ll have a look
Is it possible to use this thing with an xtool D1 Pro? I bought one but the connecting wires don't fit into the xtool D1Pro. Has anyone solved that problem? I'm afraid I'm going to have to send it back, but the hardware is so well made on this thing, I wish I could figure it out.
Hmm it should work. The D1Pro uses the same keyed plug. You may need to use the other cable that comes with it, but it should work
Nicely done Steve, it really does look pretty amazing. I have a rotary chuck which is heavy and cumbersome so I may well look into this. One question if I may, do you think this could be paired to a co2 laser? Cheers Steve.
I did a video a while back (in fact you left a comment on that one too😀) where I plugged my RA2 Pro into my Muse 3D to engrave some mugs with handles. So yes, pretty much any rotary can be connected to any laser.
In the case of the Muse I needed to create some different cabling, but for most lasers that use Lightburn, the KN Pro should just work with one of the two cables Atezr provides. It is certainly a much nicer offering than the one FSL provides for the Muse and is about half the price as well. Other CO2 laser sellers are similarly priced and also not nearly as nice as the KN Pro.
I'm happy to try this on my SP-3624 laser and put a RUclips Short up to show it if you want.
@@SteveMakesEverything thankyou Steve, and indeed I do remember now you mention it. But yes that would be great to see this working on your sp36-24. 👍
Does the longer feet on the Atezer come with it if not where can I get them?
Yes they do, but I personally just use wooden blocks with any laser because they are much easier to pop in and out
Can I ask what Speed and Power settings would you use on colored tumblers and the same on the Stainless Steel Tumbler you did with LIFE IS BETTER ON A BOAT?
This would very much depend on the laser you're using, so you might have to play around a bit. The power will generally need to be high and the speed fairly low.
@@SteveMakesEverything is an Atezr L2 36w
Will this works whit co2 laser?
The short answer is It might, but you may end up creating your own cable. The rotary itself is just a stepper motor and that should work on pretty much any laser.
Can this Rotary be attached to a D1 Pro?
Yes it should work. They have included both connector wires for the stepper motors used on diode lasers
@@SteveMakesEverything good to know, thanks buddy
Do you need lightburn for this chuck to work with the xtool D1, or will it work with laserbox basic or creative space from xtool (is g-code still g-code in all these software options for the D1)? Thanks.
Interesting question, but I'm not sure. Certainly, the laser will turn the rotary but I don't think there's a way to set the steps/rev. xTool assumes you're using an RA2 Pro
Can these be used with FSL Muse 3D laser?
I did a video a while back to engrave glasses with handles on the Muse 3D and I did a modification to accept the RA2 Pro. The KR Pro would work with the same process.
THIS KR Pro WORKS WITH THE ATEZR V35?
Yes, I was using a V35 in the video.
Can this work on the Ortur LM3 with the YRR plug? Mine didn't come with an adapter to the YRR.
Yes it should work. Maybe I can try this but the rotary comes with both common cables and it’s just a stepper motor so that will work on any laser
@SteveMakesEverything thanks Steve, I found the YRR adapter cable in the OLM3 box, so it comes with the Ortur LM3.
I’m looking for rotary attachment that can handle straight 1.375”-1.5” diameter anodized aluminum tubing that’s 15”-24” long. Do you think this would be a good solution? I’m also considering the xTool RA-2. Any guidance or advice would be fantastic. Thanks for the great information!
The. KR pro is a bit more sturdy than the RA2 But I’m not sure either of these can handle you use case unless you can find a way to hold the other end of a 24” piece
@@SteveMakesEverything We could fabricate an extended base for the KR-Pro chuck rotary. I’m guessing that plate is just screwed on. Agree? For the roller version, as long as the rollers can be brought closer together (unclear from docs) there’s an end support component in the kit that seems like it can be placed anywhere. As long as we weight the tube to be engraved (something cylindrical and heavy) that seems like it could also work, too?
@@richfox1255 You should be able to transfer the chuck component to a larger plate, and there is also full adjustment on the rollers.
I was thinking of adding a connector to the roller version (non chuck) so I could plug it into my omtech 80 W co2. I know that the omtech 80W c02 uses a nema 23. Do you know what size stepper is used in the KR pro?
The nema 17 motor in the the KR pro should still work. The stepper controller should be able to run any stepper, but you might have to check the settings switches on the driver to make sure it won’t drive more than 1.5A into the smaller motor
@@SteveMakesEverything Thanks for the information Steve.
@@brucehiatt563 Hopefully it's useful.
Which do you recommend for the FSL ps24?
This rotary should work but you will need to provide a different cable from the controller because FSL uses their own cable format.
I just looked at the cable that came with the FSL PS24 rotary attachment. It has a round 4 pin plug to plug into the machine and on the other end the 6 pin plug (the same as the one which comes with the Azter) to plug into the rotary attachment itself. Two of the six pins are not used. Ive just bought the Azter myself so I'm going to check it out more once it is delivered.
This product work for 1 month and stop. Now im trying get guarantee but service complaining things for 2 months. Im done with atezr i should buy sculpfun ... Never buy ATEZR! Terrible support
Support from most companies is a bit of a pet peeve of mine. Everyone wants to sell you something but no one wants to support.
There really isn't much that can go wrong with a rotary attachment, since it's really only a $20 stepper motor attached to rollers or a chuck. However it is possible to blow the stepper driver if the rotary is plugged in or unplugged while the laser is powered up. If this is what happened then it can certainly happen to any laser - and it's very easy to do. Companies (and RUclipsr makers too 🤔) should do a much better job at pointing this out to people.
@@SteveMakesEverything im not taking about rotary but laser L2 36 w.
@@emce2pl Yes, I understand. The driver for the rotary is on the controller in the laser (as noted the rotary is just a motor). I'm willing to bet that the driver is dead and you will need a new controller.
This isn't first complaint I've heard about support for laser products and I've heard some about Atezr, but they aren't unique, so I don't think it's safe to assume that Sculpfun (and I've heard complaints about them too) or any other company is somehow much better. Improving support is an area where every company needs to focus.
Some (like xTool or Longer) seem to do it better, but none are what I would call awesome from a support perspective.
Overpriced.
I guess opinions will vary. What are you comparing it to? The RA2 Pro, is the same price but isn't nearly as compelling as this kit. However if you just want a basic roller, then yes, you can pick those up for very low prices these days.
BTW, cool user name!😀