I was always so angry this race cost chad the championship. He really got so unlucky. Yet another year he should have won he didn't. Reed had so many titles In supercross he could have/should have won he didn't because of bad luck . 2006, 2009, 2011 he definitely should have. 2012 and 2014 he had excellent chances as well, but due to injury lost those chances. I would even say he would have had a shot at 2013 if he had not gotten hurt so badly in 2012 and been slowed down a lot by it. Hard to say about 2010, because he got hurt so early, but I would say the rest of them, he definitely did.
I know -- I felt the same way; If anybody's your candidate for the worst luck on the planet, Chad Reed is unfortunately that person; It's sometimes not fair that your competitor, James Stewart misses the podium TWICE (19th at A1 and 7th at Daytona), wins 11 races and takes the title, while Chad Reed finishes with 16 podiums in 17 races, misses the podium ONCE (7th) and loses the points lead and the championship by 4. I wanted Chad to win the 2006 title REALLY bad and dethrone Carmichael, but it didn't work out in the least. Sad when your 2 rivals have bad finishes of 8th, 6th, and 17th (Stewart), and a 6th and 20th (Carmichael) and STILL loses the title by just 2 points; I remember I had to miss that race because I went to my high school senior prom, but I still just sent all my thoughts out to Reed to make me a happy man; it didn't happen. 2011 I can really place ALL the blame on James Stewart. He got too anxious and cleaned Reed out at Dallas. After hearing about Stewart's impersonating a cop thing, that was when I lost the remainder of my respect for him, and even went so far as to say he was abusing his popularity and getting away with it. If Reed didn't have that horrendous crash at Millville, that'd have been 2 450cc MX titles in his hip pocket. 2010, I think Reed was just lost. He signed late with Team Kawasaki (first mistake), and just never got things going. His injury at Phoenix didn't help much either. I still believe that if Reed did not get hurt, he WOULD'VE won a race (save for the Hangtown MX). 2012 and '14, I think those were Reed's titles as well; 2012 just made me so depressed when Reed crashed at Dallas, and at San Diego in '14 (especially when San Diego gave Reed so much good luck).
yeah, I blame james for 2011 as well. I like Stewart, but I lost a lot of respect for him in 2011. That was when he was on the down spiral. Not even the same rider he was 2 years before. Stewart taking out reed in 2011 dallas cost him that title. Not that Dungey or Villipoto didn't have some bad luck either (villipoto Jacksonville, Dungey chain dnf at Anaheim 2, as well as a few unlucky falls) , but that one incident stuck out at me more then anything that happened. Most of the other incidents (aside from dungey's chain) were self inflicted or just racing incidents. But that was just a stupid, james stewart moment, plain and simple. I would say the Atlanta race cost him as well, but that was more a self inflicted mistake/racing moment. Stewart was just a mess after his injury in 2010, just reckless, and never the same.
I remember Stewart causing several incidents in 2011 by being a bone head. Some that come to mind are Houston start 2011, and crashing into Jason Thomas in the same race
Yeah, you're right on all accounts. Atlanta '11... I can't say I'd have done anything different if I were in Chad Reed's position. I believe Reed had Stewart covered, and James just ruined it for him like he's done to a lot of riders through the years, especially at Houston '11 when he plowed into Jason Thomas. But, yeah, Dungey's chain derailing at A2, and Villopoto's DNQ at Jacksonville gave the competitors hope, but Villopoto's DNQ was a bogus move IMO. Unless Villopoto had a major bike problem (which it didn't look like he did) in his heat race, RV2 had what it took to get to 9th or better, and he would've done so had he just continued on. I don't like how people pull out of the heat races and just get ready for the LCQ (or the semis in this case, which is more understanding) because your gate pick shoots you in the foot right off the bat (last pick). Look at what happened to Roczen at Salt Lake City '13 -- he didn't even make the main. Anyway, yeah, just about everyone else's mistakes were self-inflicted. I still remember the question around the pits was "What's going on with Dungey? Why's he not winning?" All I could figure from that was as David Bailey once said: "Too much too soon. When everything's handed to you easily, somewhere down the line, you're going to pay a price."
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Certainly not me. I honestly can't watch this race after what happened to Reed.
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Very good...!!!
For Villopoto, yes; for Stewart, yes; for Reed, not at all. :(
I was always so angry this race cost chad the championship. He really got so unlucky. Yet another year he should have won he didn't. Reed had so many titles In supercross he could have/should have won he didn't because of bad luck . 2006, 2009, 2011 he definitely should have. 2012 and 2014 he had excellent chances as well, but due to injury lost those chances. I would even say he would have had a shot at 2013 if he had not gotten hurt so badly in 2012 and been slowed down a lot by it. Hard to say about 2010, because he got hurt so early, but I would say the rest of them, he definitely did.
I know -- I felt the same way; If anybody's your candidate for the worst luck on the planet, Chad Reed is unfortunately that person; It's sometimes not fair that your competitor, James Stewart misses the podium TWICE (19th at A1 and 7th at Daytona), wins 11 races and takes the title, while Chad Reed finishes with 16 podiums in 17 races, misses the podium ONCE (7th) and loses the points lead and the championship by 4.
I wanted Chad to win the 2006 title REALLY bad and dethrone Carmichael, but it didn't work out in the least. Sad when your 2 rivals have bad finishes of 8th, 6th, and 17th (Stewart), and a 6th and 20th (Carmichael) and STILL loses the title by just 2 points; I remember I had to miss that race because I went to my high school senior prom, but I still just sent all my thoughts out to Reed to make me a happy man; it didn't happen.
2011 I can really place ALL the blame on James Stewart. He got too anxious and cleaned Reed out at Dallas. After hearing about Stewart's impersonating a cop thing, that was when I lost the remainder of my respect for him, and even went so far as to say he was abusing his popularity and getting away with it. If Reed didn't have that horrendous crash at Millville, that'd have been 2 450cc MX titles in his hip pocket.
2010, I think Reed was just lost. He signed late with Team Kawasaki (first mistake), and just never got things going. His injury at Phoenix didn't help much either. I still believe that if Reed did not get hurt, he WOULD'VE won a race (save for the Hangtown MX).
2012 and '14, I think those were Reed's titles as well; 2012 just made me so depressed when Reed crashed at Dallas, and at San Diego in '14 (especially when San Diego gave Reed so much good luck).
yeah, I blame james for 2011 as well. I like Stewart, but I lost a lot of respect for him in 2011. That was when he was on the down spiral. Not even the same rider he was 2 years before. Stewart taking out reed in 2011 dallas cost him that title. Not that Dungey or Villipoto didn't have some bad luck either (villipoto Jacksonville, Dungey chain dnf at Anaheim 2, as well as a few unlucky falls) , but that one incident stuck out at me more then anything that happened. Most of the other incidents (aside from dungey's chain) were self inflicted or just racing incidents. But that was just a stupid, james stewart moment, plain and simple. I would say the Atlanta race cost him as well, but that was more a self inflicted mistake/racing moment.
Stewart was just a mess after his injury in 2010, just reckless, and never the same.
I remember Stewart causing several incidents in 2011 by being a bone head. Some that come to mind are Houston start 2011, and crashing into Jason Thomas in the same race
Yeah, you're right on all accounts. Atlanta '11... I can't say I'd have done anything different if I were in Chad Reed's position. I believe Reed had Stewart covered, and James just ruined it for him like he's done to a lot of riders through the years, especially at Houston '11 when he plowed into Jason Thomas. But, yeah, Dungey's chain derailing at A2, and Villopoto's DNQ at Jacksonville gave the competitors hope, but Villopoto's DNQ was a bogus move IMO. Unless Villopoto had a major bike problem (which it didn't look like he did) in his heat race, RV2 had what it took to get to 9th or better, and he would've done so had he just continued on. I don't like how people pull out of the heat races and just get ready for the LCQ (or the semis in this case, which is more understanding) because your gate pick shoots you in the foot right off the bat (last pick). Look at what happened to Roczen at Salt Lake City '13 -- he didn't even make the main.
Anyway, yeah, just about everyone else's mistakes were self-inflicted. I still remember the question around the pits was "What's going on with Dungey? Why's he not winning?" All I could figure from that was as David Bailey once said: "Too much too soon. When everything's handed to you easily, somewhere down the line, you're going to pay a price."
To this day, I am GLAD that James DID NOT win the '11 title because IMO, that was a title he didn't deserve after all his incidents off the track.
HDTV the recording still looks crap lol
What you see is what you get.