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@@rps215 japan gets it because of "demand indochina", not because capitulation. and all you have to do is ask japan you transfer control after you are at war with allies i believe,it should work on these states too.
@@MrVentches From what I have seen, if France capitulate too quickly, Japan will press that button right away. If not and Japan already spent the PP they have for something else, they often do not get a chance to press that button later until someone declares war on Vichy France.
Siam/Thailand just didn't make a choice of joining either of the sides in WW2, although we took a few territories from Vichy Indochina in an invasion in 1940. Then, by the time we had to pick a side, the Japanese gave us a choice hours before their landing and nobody knew where the Prime Minister, Plaek Phibunsongkram went. The choice was made next morning when the invasion already happened and the PM finally returned to Bangkok. 1:55 Btw, Phahon wouldn't be a war criminal since he already retired from politics by the time WW2 happened due to his health. And he was a Prime Minister
Don’t worry, ISP, you’re only technically banned from entering Thailand now. You insulted a historical monarch by failing to pronounce his name and they consider that a crime punishable by 5 years prison... this is in the 21st century too
@@darkpixel1128 To be fair its also an offence to have criticism on the current monarch, but since the entire country of Thailand pretty much despises the current monarch due to him living in a German hotel and not having stepped foot in Thailand for almost five years or so, just about nobody enforces those types of laws anymore
What do you mean "The Forgotten Nation?" I remember landing on the beaches with my Malian brothers, with the support of our one aircraft carrier, without aircraft for cover! (I'm not the only person who remembers this video right?)
@@hellshing4866 When ISP played as British Malaya. It made me go and do the same thing, and I can admit, it is actually one of the most fun minors I have ever played.
Another option (that works even in vanilla) is to join Axis instead, that way you can capture French Indochina really early on and form the Rattanakosin Kingdom for extra cores. Afterwards you can naval invade Indonesia before Japan gets their hands on it, rather than trying to push through nonexistent Burmese infrastructure
That's why i hope the "Pearls of the Orient" can get a countrypack first before the South Americans. I mean, Japan's Battlefield worth more than America's Backyard.
Thank you for your content. Ive been struggling with my Mental Health Recently. Im new to this channel and i already Love your videos. Thank you my Man
Phraya Phahon wasnt actually the king of Thailand, He was prime minister during the inter-war and early WW2 before being replaced by the Pro-Japanese Phibunsongkhram.
Fun fact: During the Japanese "invasion" of Thailand, the Japanese sent one of their soldiers to negotiate with the Thai police at a police station in Prachuap province. The problem was that no one understood each other. The Japanese soldier was bayoneted to death, a firefight ensued after that. The civilians, the police, and the servicemen were eager to defy the Japanese, but the higher-ups didn't really want to. Who knows what atrocity would've happened if they didn't surrender to the Japanese.
Siam is actually surprisingly fun in MP you allie with Japan and take alot of land or you could go communist and allie with the soviets and get land that way. Playing Siam isn't even that bad compared to some other minors.
Siamese empire, a subsidiary of Japan incorporated: we killed your guys, you killed our guys. japan took Hawaii and the Uk took Iwa Jima. I think we can all agree this was a draw. so let's all just beat up the soviets and go home, sound good?
Da fact: first leader of Siam that you saw his full name is Phraya Phahonphonphayuhasena He was the four of Revolutionary who turned the absolutely monetary to constitutional monarchy Lot of respect guys :)
All I’m saying is that this actually looked like a fun game. Rare to see the AI (Allies) actually put up a fight. If only paradox could make it consistent lol
Looking forward to Switzerland actually! Dont know how possible it would be, but i like the idea of making the AI grind up on your line from all sides? Maybe it could be like a throwback to your old switzerland video from back in the day where you showed off an espionage mod? You could spec into espionage and be the allied spymaster, causing chaos from the background? This was what kept me occupied in my recent British Raj game, where I played till 1946 and tactically nuked most of Germany and every Japanese victory point. Whatever you do, it'll be super funny and impressive like all your other videos! I doubt you read comments but if you see this, thanks for introducing me to paradox and for making me laugh since freshman year :)
1:55 Historically speaking Hirohito was never tried as a war criminal, in return for unconditional surrender he negotiated diplomatic immunity for the royal family so they couldn’t be charged, and even before they could really try the generals and military leaders, communist China won the civil war and American put all the war crimes Japan committed under the rug and loosened the military restrictions so there was someone in Asia to contest the CCP
If South East Asia had a DLC it would be sick: Dutch East Indies has potential for a focus tree British Malaya should be in the Together For Victory DLC but this focus tree would be better Siam did help in WW2 so it would be a good Focus Tree Philippines (not in South East Asia but whatever) would be fun if you want to make a fortress or just defend against the Japanese empire
It’s better to join the Axis imo. Conquer the empty Indochina immediately and make your formable nation while grabbing Singapore and as much of Burma as possible until the resistance is too much. Then hold that line while you take Indonesia and maybe Australia, while pushing slowly into the Raj when opportunities arise
Just finished a game as Thunder Cross Latvia, joined the Fascist allies, held back Russia, and together with the Axis, Destroyed the USSR. Twas a very cursed game of Hoi4
" If I push into Iran I want to make sure I have supplies" you wont...I waged a brutal 3 year campaign in Iran as Romania and the sheer lack of supplies kept my troops bogged down for 2 of those 3 years before I managed to breakthrough to Tehran.
Mr. Sorrow, I love your videos, they have brought me so much joy. I think you made me a sadomasochistic. I blame you for how kinky I am. This is your fault. Accept sole blame for this, thank you
The forgotten nation……. Me playing as the UK : uhhhh I didn’t even know this nation existed British raj during my gameplay who took them out in LITERALLY 15 seconds: and you never will Dad……. You never will
Oh boy, mr map man is torturing himself again
Our little jester
yes
Dont worry, he likes the pain. It stimulates what little remains.
He'll dip his ball in boiling oil for our pleasure .
I read this in ISP's voice.
Siam is actually a decent minor nation due to the manpower pool, all you need to do is secure the Guangxi Clique and you'll have resources
im sad he never gotten around to doing the formable nation of it.
and malaya
He was too late to do that formable unfortunately, because France capitulated too quickly and allowed Japan to snatch it away.
@@rps215 japan gets it because of "demand indochina", not because capitulation. and all you have to do is ask japan you transfer control after you are at war with allies i believe,it should work on these states too.
@@MrVentches From what I have seen, if France capitulate too quickly, Japan will press that button right away. If not and Japan already spent the PP they have for something else, they often do not get a chance to press that button later until someone declares war on Vichy France.
So because the career profile is here now, the game is going to consider "Siam" to be the first nation ISP ever played. Nice.
it wont because career profile is ironman only
@@silenth13 literally not true
@@alperos29 only works for me in ironman, otherwise anything i do doesn't get saved
Hey mine's Albania. Siam is far easier. Just not as much potential.
@@alperos29 Should be tru tho.
Siam/Thailand just didn't make a choice of joining either of the sides in WW2, although we took a few territories from Vichy Indochina in an invasion in 1940. Then, by the time we had to pick a side, the Japanese gave us a choice hours before their landing and nobody knew where the Prime Minister, Plaek Phibunsongkram went.
The choice was made next morning when the invasion already happened and the PM finally returned to Bangkok.
1:55 Btw, Phahon wouldn't be a war criminal since he already retired from politics by the time WW2 happened due to his health. And he was a Prime Minister
yes
yes
Almost everyone in SEA who got invaded thinks your nation's a traitor
True
@@pushyoch.8252 How did we betray you guys when we didn't even have an alliance with you in the first place?
Fun fact: criticising the King of Thailand could get you years in jail
What's there to criticize?
@@Mantis42 well from what ive heard he prefers sleeping with prostitutes to running thailand
@@mappingshaman5280
Ok, but can you really blame him?
@@warlordofbritannia TRUE
@@warlordofbritannia Well…. Yeah that’s true
Don’t worry, ISP, you’re only technically banned from entering Thailand now. You insulted a historical monarch by failing to pronounce his name and they consider that a crime punishable by 5 years prison...
this is in the 21st century too
i know les majese laws are insane in thailand but is it seriously even an offence to mispronounce his name?
@@darkpixel1128 To be fair its also an offence to have criticism on the current monarch, but since the entire country of Thailand pretty much despises the current monarch due to him living in a German hotel and not having stepped foot in Thailand for almost five years or so, just about nobody enforces those types of laws anymore
@@darkpixel1128 probably the whole doing it for a comedic purpose.
Phraya Phahon wasnt a monarch, he was prime minister of Thailand from 1932-1938.
@@wouterkessel4852 it also covers former ones too.
What do you mean "The Forgotten Nation?" I remember landing on the beaches with my Malian brothers, with the support of our one aircraft carrier, without aircraft for cover!
(I'm not the only person who remembers this video right?)
What is the video you refer to?
@@hellshing4866 When ISP played as British Malaya. It made me go and do the same thing, and I can admit, it is actually one of the most fun minors I have ever played.
@@wetwillyis_1881 rewatching this video. Thx!
@@hellshing4866 No worries, mate.
In WWII Siam was on the “Reich” side of the conflict, you might say
Daily petition for ISP to play Huey Long's Paraguay in Kaiserredux
@i told u wtf
Wtf is this comment section 😂
@@yeahguys what is the video of the bot
@@yaxb1729 A shittily narrated motivational video
@@lacrimosa7073 ok thanks
Another option (that works even in vanilla) is to join Axis instead, that way you can capture French Indochina really early on and form the Rattanakosin Kingdom for extra cores. Afterwards you can naval invade Indonesia before Japan gets their hands on it, rather than trying to push through nonexistent Burmese infrastructure
It would be nice to see a Kaiserreich A-Z series, the final moments of ISP before the insane asylum.
And watch his suffering while playing Assyria
@@dekaredfire or Kumul Khanate 😆
I think it's a shame Siam never got a focus tree. They actually did stuff during the war and I think it could flesh out the eastern theatre a lot.
That's why i hope the "Pearls of the Orient" can get a countrypack first before the South Americans. I mean, Japan's Battlefield worth more than America's Backyard.
Siam revolution
Kaiserreich has, they’re pretty powerful there
you broke the golden rule of WW2
mentioning the burmese front
I used to have a roommate from Thailand. He told us to call him 'X'. After seeing his name written down, I was grateful for the advice.
phibunsongkhram X
I think x maybe it's too long and lazy to read his rank and title.
thai people do be having ridiculously long names
IJ : Hey Siam, we've lost the war
Siam : You Lost
wow ISP I didn't realize you had a series where you played every single nation from A to Z. When did that start?
like a year ago :skull:
Everything changed when the Cringe Nation attacked
But I believe ISP can change the world
When hell was created
have you been living under a rock? he has been doing this for the past year.
@MrMoney It’s called a joke
Thank you for your content. Ive been struggling with my Mental Health Recently. Im new to this channel and i already Love your videos. Thank you my Man
Mountain general is great too dude. Hope you feel better soon my g
@@jackfrost5808 thanks brother
And now and now he's no longer allowed in Thailand for making fun of a previous Thai monarchy
Don't worry, that was just the prime minister. The king doesn't even get a national spirit like the UK for example, so much for consistency
@@prussianman3571 that's a relief
Hirohito wasn't actually counted as a war criminal and remained in "charge" after the war as powerless figurehead and helped to rebuild the nation
Im half thai
Siam Deserve the more focus tree Siam Has Interest history in the past Like ayutthaya Rattanakosin Ww2 waar wiith france ETC,
And that's how he'll never be able to go to Thailand otherwise he'll be arrested
Dude he was only PM.
Now, after A2Z ends, start a new series called "Z2A".
As a Thai person, this was one of the most entertaining videos i watched this year.
เช่นกันครับ Me too
They're very fun to play in Kaiserreich
thank you o father of gravy for this helping of suffering
Bring on drew when you play usa
Phraya Phahon wasnt actually the king of Thailand, He was prime minister during the inter-war and early WW2 before being replaced by the Pro-Japanese Phibunsongkhram.
Fun fact: During the Japanese "invasion" of Thailand, the Japanese sent one of their soldiers to negotiate with the Thai police at a police station in Prachuap province. The problem was that no one understood each other. The Japanese soldier was bayoneted to death, a firefight ensued after that.
The civilians, the police, and the servicemen were eager to defy the Japanese, but the higher-ups didn't really want to. Who knows what atrocity would've happened if they didn't surrender to the Japanese.
It true. I have ever read this story and it inspired to comedy war movie called 7 ประจัญบาน 2
Holy shit, the japanese soldier got bayoneted to death? SHIT
@@fanwtn5124 Yes,this guy is veteran from China but come to Thailand and killed by low rank police
If it’s the one I’m thinking of, the Thai military thoroughly beat peak Japanese army in a delaying action
I hope the next big DLC is Henchmen And Sidekicks, featuring Italy and Siam.
Thank you I sorrow for playing my country I hope you play more of Thailand
Siam is actually surprisingly fun in MP you allie with Japan and take alot of land or you could go communist and allie with the soviets and get land that way. Playing Siam isn't even that bad compared to some other minors.
Ah my favourite CBT video producer.
C ountering
B okoen1s
T hreat to society.
Siamese empire, a subsidiary of Japan incorporated: we killed your guys, you killed our guys. japan took Hawaii and the Uk took Iwa Jima. I think we can all agree this was a draw. so let's all just beat up the soviets and go home, sound good?
Decided to shelve Hoi4 until the banner-crap was gone. Found out here it's no an issue. iSorrow, a better source of information than Paradox.
Love the part that Siam Saudi Arabia and turkey have the same color and are blending together
HONEY WAKE UP NEW ISP VIDEO JUST DROPPED
“Bury the putrid corpse of liberty” has to be the best name for a focus in the game, right?
Da fact: first leader of Siam that you saw his full name is Phraya Phahonphonphayuhasena
He was the four of Revolutionary who turned the absolutely monetary to constitutional monarchy
Lot of respect guys :)
honestly i think i could sit here with isp in this map game hell forever and actually enjoy myself slightly
All I’m saying is that this actually looked like a fun game. Rare to see the AI (Allies) actually put up a fight. If only paradox could make it consistent lol
Let's go been waiting for this since the start
Man you still on this series? I feel bad for you. It feels like years since you started
I always though Siam was one of the most underrated and forgotten nations but then you took it all the way. Thanks
9:51 IWO JIMA. IWO JIMA. IWO JIMA.
"have i ever mentioned how bad supply is in china?" YES, YES YOU HAVE!
Looking forward to Switzerland actually! Dont know how possible it would be, but i like the idea of making the AI grind up on your line from all sides?
Maybe it could be like a throwback to your old switzerland video from back in the day where you showed off an espionage mod? You could spec into espionage and be the allied spymaster, causing chaos from the background? This was what kept me occupied in my recent British Raj game, where I played till 1946 and tactically nuked most of Germany and every Japanese victory point.
Whatever you do, it'll be super funny and impressive like all your other videos! I doubt you read comments but if you see this, thanks for introducing me to paradox and for making me laugh since freshman year :)
You must play as the most powerful country of all: Fascist Dominican Republic
Last time I was this early, ISP had a stable mental state
ISP never had stable mental health. He is a RUclipsr for crying out loud.
He literally remade the Macedonian empire again but as Siam lol
Why dose he torture himself so much, dose he take our hoi4 sins upon himself
Remember that ISP must play one of the 'Z' nation releasables or rename this series "A2AlmostZ"
1:55 Historically speaking Hirohito was never tried as a war criminal, in return for unconditional surrender he negotiated diplomatic immunity for the royal family so they couldn’t be charged, and even before they could really try the generals and military leaders, communist China won the civil war and American put all the war crimes Japan committed under the rug and loosened the military restrictions so there was someone in Asia to contest the CCP
1:53 hes actual name is Phraya Phahonphonphayuhasena but paradox shortened it up a bit
seriously this is great content my dude, I'm fucking enthralled
sIAM so happy for a new episode HAHAHHBAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Among us
Sus
Amogus.
Zenex????
I love the internet. first comment and it's amogus
@@lolzplayzminecraft1610 ?
Thank you for posting. It's always good to see an A2Z vid in the recommended!
There's nothing that comes up in my subscriptions that gives me more joy than A2Z.
So im watchin a2z with this insane fever because i can't do anything else, and this is more cursed than the fever dreams
Historically Siam stole Germany's Pacific fleet in the first world war which was pretty based
Ayyyy, I’m from that jungle filled hell (sometimes) of a country
I only know the alphabet from A-S, I need you to keep going so I can learn more
it needs a focus tree
Pls come back to this save when your brain has recovered!
Don't you mean...
*Thighland?*
I demand a part 2
You should have gone for your formable, the ratman kingdom!
If South East Asia had a DLC it would be sick:
Dutch East Indies has potential for a focus tree
British Malaya should be in the Together For Victory DLC but this focus tree would be better
Siam did help in WW2 so it would be a good Focus Tree
Philippines (not in South East Asia but whatever) would be fun if you want to make a fortress or just defend against the Japanese empire
All six Southeast Asian territories together deserves a DLC for them.
@@krasnamerah1926 TRUEEEE
ISORROW , to honour the loss of the HOI4 A.I. Only RUclipsr Drew Durnill , you should do an A.I. Only Video for Switzerland in HOI4 A2Z
It’s better to join the Axis imo. Conquer the empty Indochina immediately and make your formable nation while grabbing Singapore and as much of Burma as possible until the resistance is too much. Then hold that line while you take Indonesia and maybe Australia, while pushing slowly into the Raj when opportunities arise
Just wait until he googles the actual name of the Siam leader ;)
I too remember when siam conquered an empire from thailand to bulgaria.
1:43 and he can no longer enter thailand
A man with glasses in charge of Thailand? Good thing Cambodia isn't independent in this game.
Just finished a game as Thunder Cross Latvia, joined the Fascist allies, held back Russia, and together with the Axis, Destroyed the USSR. Twas a very cursed game of Hoi4
The funny map man is back
(ISP looking at the rope hanging from the roof) me “it’s the finale count down da doo doo)
not forgotten, more like willfully ignored
Thailand is the best place to eat Seafood. You can eat albino lobsters for 1 dollar in Thailand.
Finally! My home country
I would say that Mr. Map Man is losing his sanity.
But at this point, there’s no sanity left to lose.
9:15 France divided between France and France
Skr skr i skirt lile skr skr
The forgotten cool riff
Revenge of the East, an idea for a Hoi4 Mod
Isp shoud make march of the eagles a to z
Can't wait for the Slovakia game!
Babe wake up isorrowproductions just uploaded
There is a Lese Majeste law there if you criticize the monarchy
8:03 It looks like there are 2 Romanias lol.
The video dropped in quality at the sight of the allied horde.
thai guy here, small correction, the starting leader is not the king, but the prime minister
"#help" lol
" If I push into Iran I want to make sure I have supplies" you wont...I waged a brutal 3 year campaign in Iran as Romania and the sheer lack of supplies kept my troops bogged down for 2 of those 3 years before I managed to breakthrough to Tehran.
Mr. Sorrow, I love your videos, they have brought me so much joy. I think you made me a sadomasochistic. I blame you for how kinky I am. This is your fault. Accept sole blame for this, thank you
Why the fuck did I write this comment, and why did someone like it?
ooooh come on i thought finnaly an episode thats going to be longer than usual
1:47 In thai we call him praya Prahon
paya*
01:42 Phraya Phahonphonphayuhasena
Oh look its gregkoen!
Slovakia is a starting nation in the 1939 starting date.
The forgotten nation…….
Me playing as the UK : uhhhh I didn’t even know this nation existed
British raj during my gameplay who took them out in LITERALLY 15 seconds: and you never will Dad……. You never will