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    #aquaman #namor #powerscaling #mcu #wakandaforever #dceu
    Aquaman, the King of Atlantis vs Namor, the Feathered Serpent God who is the more powerful ruler of the seas? I'm sure you all expected this video and i’m here to deliver. Now, you may be thinking “oh here we go, another MCU vs DCEU video where the MCU gets stomped, well you’re in for one of the most competitive match-ups in the MCU and DCEU rivalry. As always, I will be breaking down each character's strengths and weaknesses to determine who the more powerful combatant is and who would win in an epic, all out brawl. We will be discussing the MOVIE VERSIONS so we will not be referencing any comic book material unless that material is canon to the movies. We’re also going to be equalizing speed for this battle as the DCEU still consistently clears the speed of the MCU. Finally, and I know it’s going to upset many of you, but again we’re using the theatrical cut of to scale Aquaman. It’s the current canon in the universe unless something changes.
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Комментарии • 859

  • @KeyIssues
    @KeyIssues  Год назад +89

    Who else here love fish sticks?

    • @zainebamfo2077
      @zainebamfo2077 Год назад +7

      Since you equalised speed. What would the outcome be if it was normal stats

    • @South_0f_Heaven_
      @South_0f_Heaven_ Год назад +5

      Don’t care for fish stick but all your base are belong to us.

    • @bananaking664
      @bananaking664 Год назад +2

      updattteeee the teirrrr listttttt pleeessasseeee

    • @bab3419
      @bab3419 Год назад +4

      MCU skill tier list?

    • @JCResDoc94
      @JCResDoc94 Год назад +1

      he could put a bubble around namor of air, & suck the water out of his body. _JC

  • @TheKlone594
    @TheKlone594 Год назад +301

    The director said namor is on the same level as Thor or hulk but he doesn’t seem underpowered or overpowered but accurately powered

    • @tyranitarsamarine8002
      @tyranitarsamarine8002 Год назад +12

      i guess because he is a mutant so it seems like a fair rating

    • @azeezibnnaim
      @azeezibnnaim Год назад +26

      Statement don’t mean anything, character feats does.. Kevin said Wanda is stronger than Thor.. clearly not the case

    • @oderindebolutife5977
      @oderindebolutife5977 Год назад +11

      aqua man would cap him

    • @TheKlone594
      @TheKlone594 Год назад +12

      @@azeezibnnaim ik bro that’s what I’m saying Thor and hulk are OP heavy hitters(well they used to be) now there underpowered and namor power feels just right he didn’t do anything overpowered in BP:WF

    • @TheKlone594
      @TheKlone594 Год назад +2

      @@oderindebolutife5977 yes

  • @nmccray4494
    @nmccray4494 Год назад +218

    He's missing one key factor about Aquaman; he gets much stronger under water and faster too. That's why he was able to take on Steppenwolf much better underwater than he did on land.

    • @walterbaptiste4596
      @walterbaptiste4596 Год назад +6

      I don't understand why you people put DC above Marvel constantly. Y'all need to start putting respect on Marcel's characters

    • @nmccray4494
      @nmccray4494 Год назад +41

      @@walterbaptiste4596 bro, I love Marvel but the facts are the facts.

    • @FadeYT167
      @FadeYT167 Год назад +23

      @@walterbaptiste4596 I rarely find people now days who consider Dc better than marvel tbh, and they never said Dc was better, they were just adding to the conversation...

    • @rileyowen7245
      @rileyowen7245 Год назад

      @@walterbaptiste4596 no you just love MCU too much like a drug 💀 if someone thinks a DC character is better people like you explodes like a nuke 😂😂

    • @walterbaptiste4596
      @walterbaptiste4596 Год назад +7

      @@FadeYT167 Fair enough regarding the story. But they have DC characters built up to God tier and Marvel's are chronically nerfed in these battles

  • @lyrabelacqua4120
    @lyrabelacqua4120 Год назад +226

    One thing to note was Namors healing factor, when he was super damaged and about to die from unspecified causes, he quickly healed moments after he made the claim he needed water. Does water heal “Nah-More” ?

    • @swanliszt
      @swanliszt Год назад +35

      English speakers are really having a hard time pronouncing an a 💀

    • @dobi287
      @dobi287 Год назад +1

      When

    • @maxpowers4436
      @maxpowers4436 Год назад +13

      Why did you say Nah more? All the other non Talocan characters who don't speak spanish say his name like the comics Naymor aka the English way. Its obvious that Nahmore is the native language pronunciation like how a French person says crossaint or an Italian says tagliatelle. So if you speak Spanish maybe say it like him otherwise just use english why are people so weird lmao.

    • @omarscarborough4274
      @omarscarborough4274 Год назад +2

      It speeds up the healing process.

    • @Shivcel172
      @Shivcel172 Год назад +5

      @@maxpowers4436 a persons name is however that person pronounces it, if Nahmor calls himself Nahmor than that is his name regardless of how you choose to pronounce it. The comic one is Namor, the MCU one is Nahmor. The english speaking people in the movie called him Namor because maybe they can't pronounce it the right way, which is fine, or maybe they just don't care enough to say it the right way cause he is threatening them. It's not that hard to understand and the only one being weird is you.

  • @123bboymeandyou
    @123bboymeandyou Год назад +170

    Aquaman took a punch from Superman….dude is bullet proof and more durable with or without water

    • @BlackLeonardoMusic
      @BlackLeonardoMusic Год назад

      Yea he lost me with this one. Namor would die from a punch from Supes.

    • @omarscarborough4274
      @omarscarborough4274 Год назад +27

      Namor's power level has been consistent over the years. Aquaman 's powers have been increased over the last 20-30 years.

    • @123bboymeandyou
      @123bboymeandyou Год назад +21

      @@omarscarborough4274 I’m talk about the movies only

    • @123bboymeandyou
      @123bboymeandyou Год назад +10

      @@BlackLeonardoMusic his scaling of mcu is bonkers somehow they are planetery and solar system level, and half of them can literally die from a simple gunshot

    • @cammte5471
      @cammte5471 Год назад +11

      @@omarscarborough4274 if you’re talking about comics, Namor’s strength has increased as well, tf are you talking about lmao. He took on the entire Squadron Supreme by himself and most recently took on the Avengers by himself as well which had Ghost Rider, an amped Savage She Hulk, Thor, and Captain Marvel on the team

  • @azziahrussell38
    @azziahrussell38 Год назад +42

    I think a lot of u guys missed the point of the first attack on wakanda he wanted to kill the queen not wipe the city off the map yet he gave them a choice join or be destroyed after his first goal

  • @JJ-rf7dg
    @JJ-rf7dg Год назад +25

    Namor's advantage is flight.

    • @chibuikechristopher324
      @chibuikechristopher324 Год назад +9

      Not much of an advantage considering Aquaman can leap, and we saw him kill multiple Parademons….in the sky. And he has the Karathen and Trench, who can also survive on land. And it’s not cheating considering Aquaman can control them
      Namor is outgunned in every way even with the Talokan army

  • @SadnessB4Madness
    @SadnessB4Madness Год назад +40

    Back at the MCU vs DC matchups and loving it! Looking forward to a retrospective on characters growth through phase 4 but as always keep up the great work guys👌

  • @MDZ_18
    @MDZ_18 Год назад +4

    It almost felt like he purposefully made namor win as dceu characters were always talking the victory😂😂😂.

  • @kofielinam8502
    @kofielinam8502 Год назад +17

    Let's not cut to conclusions yet. We've not seen much of Namor, his max strength has only be assumed for now.
    Namor was wielding a vibranium spear🌝
    And nothing proved he was near Thor or Hulk level power even in water.😬

  • @Rawxnama98
    @Rawxnama98 Год назад +25

    Before Anybody call Namor a rip off Version of Aquaman
    Just know Namor came out first
    So technically Aquaman is a rip off

    • @brandonbrown1171
      @brandonbrown1171 Год назад +5

      Only real comic book fans know this. The casual would say some dumb shit like this

    • @dosomestuff1949
      @dosomestuff1949 Год назад +1

      And then y’all go and say darkseid is a ripoff of thanos like cmon

    • @Rawxnama98
      @Rawxnama98 Год назад

      @@dosomestuff1949 Oh I never said that I know Darkseid is the original I love Darkseid He’s actually one of my favorite villains I hate Thanos because he’s a rip off of Darkseid and he ain’t shit with out that glove Just saying but is my opinion tho I don’t care if people like Thanos or not I just hate Thanos💯

    • @MONSTER0GRENDEL
      @MONSTER0GRENDEL Год назад +1

      Namor is one of Mavel's 1st characters ... but the 2 ( N & AM ) that I don't see them being a rip-off of each other - each is too unique aside from being kings of Atlantis and being from a water domain. The Inhuman 'Triton" isn't a copy of either character either.
      That would be like saying Dr. Strange is a rip-off of Dr. Fate. Dr.Fate came 1st but the characters are different enough that they are unique.
      There are plenty of instances where the copy-cat factor is in play between the 2 companies prominently : Black-Cat & Cat woman; Death-Stroke & Dead Pool; Wonder Woman & Wonder-man etc.

    • @brandonbrown1171
      @brandonbrown1171 Год назад +1

      @B. Foley both marvel and dc have ripped off each other characters. I'm glad your brought up the other characters. My opinion both of them should've made characters that don't resemble each other. My thing is if both companies have ppl creating characters they should've been smart enough to make something different but hey in this world we live in nothing is perfect

  • @Blazecap
    @Blazecap Год назад +86

    Hey can I ask a question: So Ryan Coolger said namor could go head to head with Thor and hulk but only if water was around. This seems to imply hulk is “stronger” or at least a tougher opponent for Namor than Thor. Thoughts?

    • @AvatarM685
      @AvatarM685 Год назад +32

      I think he's possibly trying to say that hulk is just physically stronger, not necessarily more powerful. For example, if thor & hulk had an arm wrestling match, hulk would win, but in a one on one fight, thor's lightning abilities & stormbreaker would help him win the fight.

    • @HULKmyLOVE
      @HULKmyLOVE Год назад +3

      Yeah I think Ryan coogler will do justice to hulk in secret wars

    • @pixel3042
      @pixel3042 Год назад +4

      I don't think that counts. By this reasoning, if Zack Snyder said that Aquaman would easily defeat Dr. Manhattan, should we just immediately accept it as a fact? Base it off of feats and accomplishments, not things said by the director in order to hype up the movie.

    • @AvatarM685
      @AvatarM685 Год назад +8

      @@pixel3042 m'baku says it in the movie, so that could further back it up, since it's an in universe statement & not a one off comment by a cast member.

    • @pixel3042
      @pixel3042 Год назад +4

      @@AvatarM685 True, but I'm not going to believe statements that sound really absurd without them having any feats to back it up.

  • @HynesSightEdits
    @HynesSightEdits Год назад +27

    Does the fact that Namor was using a vibranium spear to cut through vibranium ships make his feat less impressive? T’challa was able to damage Caps shield with vibranium claws, and he’s clearly not as strong as Namor. Thoughts?

    • @ryanarchuleta6231
      @ryanarchuleta6231 Год назад +8

      @Totally Unstoppable The guy who made the video is a dope. That's like saying Black Manta is Superman level because he could make Aquaman bleed. Well yeah because he had atlantian steel blades. That's the key. The right material is more affective. Namor breaking vibranium doesn't make him as strong as Thanos. Just means vibranium weaponry is superior against vibranium armor. It's like rock paper scissors. Just because Rock is better against scissors, which beats paper. So if you say "Rock must be the best since it beats the thing that beats paper" but that's just wrong. Different things are better against specific things than others.

    • @yanarygaroutalokoanwakanda
      @yanarygaroutalokoanwakanda Год назад +3

      Making scratches isn’t the same as cutting through completely.

    • @yanarygaroutalokoanwakanda
      @yanarygaroutalokoanwakanda Год назад +1

      @@ryanarchuleta6231 He already proved it’s hard to damage vibranium even with vibranium.
      It isn’t just the spear Namor is using its the level of strength he’s using it with.
      Just like the sword Thanos it putting force into it.
      You also ignore Namor scaling to Jabari wood. He one shotted Mbaku’s armor. Jabari wood is not only stated to be relative to Vibranium, it is also shown as well at the end of black panther one.

    • @user-lp8im7ow8s
      @user-lp8im7ow8s 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@yanarygaroutalokoanwakandabeing relative isn't the same as being equal

    • @yanarygaroutalokoanwakanda
      @yanarygaroutalokoanwakanda 11 месяцев назад

      @@user-lp8im7ow8s prove it

  • @GodOfBeans
    @GodOfBeans Год назад +22

    Actually you were right about the theatrical cut being cannon. Now you are not because WB got bullied so hard that they made Zack Snyder justice league cannon. So right now Zack Snyder Justice League is cannon. Sorry to all the Josh Whedon fans. Love y'all

  • @MercyAlwyz23
    @MercyAlwyz23 Год назад +3

    It is funny how all the abilities that Aquaman has is exactly what Namor of the comics have plus more.

    • @aminkamara6060
      @aminkamara6060 4 месяца назад

      Not really even in the comics aquaman has more abilities to show than namor

  • @Cbev1994
    @Cbev1994 Год назад +2

    Cheers for mentioning things I forgot for both characters. This is a very exciting match

  • @Martin-gf1hh
    @Martin-gf1hh Год назад +24

    Aqua man would win he is tough as nails after working with Amber turd.

    • @NameUserOf
      @NameUserOf Год назад +2

      This! Jack Sparrow was killing different level of immortals and had balls to go up against Kraken knowing full well he won't survive. Same Sparrow was trying to reason with Amber for years and through 3rd parties.
      Aquaman spanked that mermaid like its nothing and tamed Kraken++ level monster. Nah moor has nothing on Aquaman, he's the main man

    • @gavanrandolph2304
      @gavanrandolph2304 Год назад

      No

  • @gatorcroc7212
    @gatorcroc7212 Год назад +11

    Here's the main edge, Aquamans massive Telepathic powers. Whether it be comics or film? Namor has no defense or protecting from this. Regardless of the Talocan lore change. As Aquamans telepathic powers aren't strictly limited to typical marine life.

  • @jefferickson8493
    @jefferickson8493 Год назад +64

    I think his power increases in the sense of oxygen levels, as they said in the movie. That's why he started blacking out on land, he was suffering from hypoxia, or not enough O2 to his brain. Also he chose to fight instead of regenate his water supply even though he had time to fly up and lay the smack down on shuri. It's not that he's more powerful in the water, just that gets hindered the long he's out of water.
    Also can we talk about how strong that glass was? Namor can cut through a vibranium ship, but not glass? Even vibranium glass would be weaker than metal... And he using a sharp point only cracked the glass...
    I'd give this to Aquaman 6/10 times personally, based on actual feats in their films, and not based on statements by filmmakers. My head canon is what I see, not off screen remarks by some director.

    • @brandonbrown1171
      @brandonbrown1171 Год назад +1

      Bro u are judging these characters based on how the directors directed the characters. In the comics they are totally different come on man think

    • @mrwilliam6456
      @mrwilliam6456 Год назад +3

      Seeing is believing 😂

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 Год назад

      @@brandonbrown1171 no one is talking about the comics

    • @brandonbrown1171
      @brandonbrown1171 Год назад

      @@jmgonzales7701 how in the hell do you think these movie directors make these characters? They just can't make them up. All they do is direct how the movie will end you casual

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 Год назад +1

      @@brandonbrown1171 yeah cause namor being an ancient meso American God is totally not made up for the movies lol. Directors literally have a say on how the movie is. they can change stuff as well.

  • @junsandiego3703
    @junsandiego3703 Год назад +45

    Doesn't Aquaman's powers increase in water as well? I think it was said that he is on Superman's level in water

    • @TheDistantWave
      @TheDistantWave Год назад +3

      He’s more powerful underwater but he doesn’t get a physical boost if that makes sense. He’s more powerful because he’s use to the environment and has telepathy to call upon allies (Sea Beast) not to mention he can control the environment

    • @junsandiego3703
      @junsandiego3703 Год назад +13

      Not a fan of either character but the guy in the video seems to make a lot of assumptions in favor of Namor. Plus he didn't factor in speed which is a huge advantage for Aquaman. Seems like he just wanted to appease Marvel fans by nerfing Aquaman and giving Namor the win.

    • @TheDistantWave
      @TheDistantWave Год назад +7

      @@junsandiego3703 I definitely agree I feel like from what I’ve see on screen Aquaman is more stronger and more durable the only case for Namor seems to be relying on statements that he’s Thor/Hulk level from a director who hasn’t ever wrote either of the marvel characters he’s comparing Namor to.
      Not to mention the Thanos scaling is a bit wonky.. Black Panther has a similar showing of taking down a vibranium ship in the first movie.. I doubt we’d say T’Challa is physically on par or superior to Thanos.

    • @junsandiego3703
      @junsandiego3703 Год назад +5

      @@TheDistantWave right. Iron Man went toe to toe first with Thor, then Hulk, then Thanos, but that doesn't mean he's on the same power level.

    • @Zaacdrums
      @Zaacdrums Год назад +1

      @@TheDistantWave for the tchalla thing. He threw a vibranium spear into the engine or ships thruster to make it fall and crash. Black panther isn’t no where thanos in strength. Durability probably.

  • @VARJAGAMINGENTERTAINMENT
    @VARJAGAMINGENTERTAINMENT Год назад +10

    Alth I like namor so much but I just can't deny the power of the trident.

  • @mk__got__fans
    @mk__got__fans Год назад +8

    Aquaman moon level is crazy

    • @DaddyBlood
      @DaddyBlood Год назад

      He could scale higher actually

  • @Zanxdo
    @Zanxdo Год назад +4

    Great video! I can’t wait until we really see Namor at full strength go toe to toe with someone. He was fighting at like 10% and still won over Shuri(her suit had to heal a 3 inch hole in her gut💀) I need an infinity war Thor style of entrance for Namor!😂

  • @hunterrousseau3770
    @hunterrousseau3770 Год назад +8

    Correction, the DCEU is now currently renamed the DCU now

  • @NumaxNinja
    @NumaxNinja Год назад +9

    Aquaman> Namor to many abilities

  • @keithunderwood8803
    @keithunderwood8803 Год назад +2

    Namor wins because he has tiny wings on his feet. The man is like a killer hummingbird. It kind of makes them move like Namor is swimming in the air and in the water.

  • @mc-maitrixgaming4330
    @mc-maitrixgaming4330 Год назад +13

    Another disadvantage aquaman has is he is less skilled when fighting in 360 degrees or when there’s no ground to stand on
    During his first fight with orm he was evenly matching him while standing on the central platform but the fight soon tipped in orm’s favour once they left it as aquaman has less experience in 360 degree combat
    This would give namor a large advantage as he would have far more experience in 360 degree combat both in water and in the air as he would’ve had far longer to hone his skills, while the vast majority of aquaman’s combat training was on the beach in terrestrial combat

  • @ceasarsanchez9086
    @ceasarsanchez9086 Год назад +3

    The main point of contention I have is Thanos' blade is made from the same material as Mjolnir and Stormbreaker. We saw in Avengers 1 that Thor could merely reverberate off Cap's Vibranium shield.

  • @jfraser820
    @jfraser820 Год назад +4

    I think A.M stomps 🤔. Whilst Namor is older and more "experienced", A.M has more experince against more powerful opponents (from what we've seen).

  • @alukoifeoluwa1810
    @alukoifeoluwa1810 Год назад +6

    Well let's just say Namor has pretty much learned all his true potentials in the MCU but for Aquaman's highest level of power, let wait for his second sequel coming up and I loved this video man I mean you pick up things one by one and um break them as well one by one man that's absolute brilliancy bro keep it up and also please do more😋😋😊😊

    • @alukoifeoluwa1810
      @alukoifeoluwa1810 Год назад +1

      and yeah one more thing Aquaman is so freaking powerful when it comes to underwater so it won't be that easy yet for Namor to beat Aquaman

  • @omarscarborough4274
    @omarscarborough4274 Год назад +16

    Namor at least in comics can duplicate the powers of sea life. He can also absorb radiation.

  • @explicitmoviesvideohighlig4831
    @explicitmoviesvideohighlig4831 Год назад +6

    How is Hulk and Thor pass Thanos on strength or power levels ? When did that happen lmfao

  • @otprReviews
    @otprReviews Год назад

    Quick question, what do you think if you had a weapon that was a combination of vibranium and uru

  • @danielpagan2848
    @danielpagan2848 Год назад +5

    You mostly made Namor’s case using what Coogler said while promoting the movie instead of what was actually shown in the movie. If you go by the actual movies themselves Arthur clearly would win. Namor was nowhere near Thor or Hulk in the movie.

  • @MONSTER0GRENDEL
    @MONSTER0GRENDEL Год назад +2

    I believe that AM's telepathy would sway the conflict in his favor.
    It would be intriguing to delve into how it adversely effect Namor, if AM used a direct mental assault against Namor.

  • @jefferickson8493
    @jefferickson8493 Год назад +4

    BP director said in water Namor is comparable in strength to Thor/Hulk, Aquaman director said that Atlanteans I'm water are just as strong as Kryptonians on Earth. @KeyIssues, in the MCU and DCEU, your channel and @ComicBooksvsTheWorld proved in the past that Hulk's best feat was 25,000 tones of force; and Aquaman pushing up the submarine and displacing all the water in the way was a 500,000 tones of force feat? If both of your maths are correct, which they were the same for the Hulk punching vibranium feat, that would make Aquaman IN WATER to be (500000/25000)=20 times stronger IN WATER than Hulk is on Land. If Namor is the same strength as the Hulk while Namor is IN WATER, then Aquaman is 20 times stronger based on past videos and other RUclips sources, along with actual physics equations to back them up.

  • @bobbywilliams4438
    @bobbywilliams4438 Год назад +67

    I honestly think dceu Aquaman would dominate MCU Namor !!! Now on land it would be interesting but in the waters i think Arthur stomps

    • @n64central
      @n64central Год назад +13

      Well Arthur doesn’t need water like Namor, so if anything it’s about Arthur just outlasting him.
      I still think DCEU Aquaman strength wise is in another league.

    • @captainmalcolmreynolds1526
      @captainmalcolmreynolds1526 Год назад +8

      @@n64central disagree namor in physical strength is much stronger he’s compared to Thor and hulk and strength who are comfortably more powerful than dceu aquaman

    • @n64central
      @n64central Год назад +5

      @@captainmalcolmreynolds1526 Hulk’s strength is butchered in the MCU to be fair. It’s hard to scale how strong he is. He hasn’t done shit beside the small bits in Thor 3.
      Namor scaling is so all over the place. To say he is as strong or stronger than Thor?! Stronger then a God? That’s hard to believe because then I can make the argument that the Black Partner could beat Thor strength wise 😂 or even Spider-Man which they shouldn’t.

    • @andrewmnayerji8562
      @andrewmnayerji8562 Год назад +14

      @@captainmalcolmreynolds1526 Aquaman held his own against Steppenwolf and took blows from Superman. Also, the first thing he said in the video was that he's ignoring some of Aquaman's strengths to make this more fair to Namor. This tells you that the actual win goes to Aquaman.

    • @dsm2417
      @dsm2417 Год назад +3

      @@n64central its not out of the place. Namor is a mutant and even in comics hes on the leagues of powerful beings like those

  • @juanvasquez6535
    @juanvasquez6535 Год назад +2

    Namor's martial arts skills are probably better being 600 years old.

  • @thebat8261
    @thebat8261 Год назад +1

    Can u make a video on superman dceu vs thor mcu please also great video 😊

  • @jefferickson8493
    @jefferickson8493 Год назад +4

    I'm curious, is Aquaman's gold armor made of the same metal as the Trident?🔱 I don't think they even say anywhere, but I would love to find out!

    • @chibuikechristopher324
      @chibuikechristopher324 Год назад +2

      I think the armor is made with Atlantean steel, like the classic royal armor. While the trident is made from Poseidon steel and is a lot more powerful

  • @sphynks9421
    @sphynks9421 Год назад +13

    MCU always loses because the characters are more balanced compared to overpowered characters in the DCEU.. Everytime Superman is in a DCEU movie, he is the SOLUTION everytime because the villains are just too strong and Superman is also way beyond every other characters' level. It makes every DCEU movie (where Superman is involved) look like a superman movie.

    • @chibuikechristopher324
      @chibuikechristopher324 Год назад

      Can you really blame Superman for being the strongest? He has always been and always will be. That’s just the way he is. And Aquaman possesses one of the most powerful weapons in the DC universe, no one asked Namor to bring a vibranium spear 😏🗿🔱

    • @therighteousboys446
      @therighteousboys446 Год назад

      Exactly. That explains why they nerfed Wonder Woman so much.

    • @mrhrobinson
      @mrhrobinson Год назад +1

      The MCU isn't more balanced, the DCEU is just more accurate in their depiction and representation of their characters in relationship to their comic book counterparts.

    • @sphynks9421
      @sphynks9421 Год назад

      @@chibuikechristopher324 Did I blame anyone? And my statement is not even about who's stronger than who, I'm not so childish to stoop on that level of arguement.. It's about the fact that DCEU is not managing their stories well compared the MCU.. I am also a DCEU fan but let's just face the fact that MCU is handling the storylines better than the DCEU

    • @sphynks9421
      @sphynks9421 Год назад +1

      Nope MCU is balancing their characters' power levels quite well.. Not too powerful and not too weak.. And you're correct, the DCEU is more accurate on their depiction of characters.. And that resulted into imbalance of power

  • @otprReviews
    @otprReviews Год назад

    Quick question, what do you think one threat level would be if you had a weapon that was make from the combination of vibranium and uru metal

    • @ashtonlipscomb1295
      @ashtonlipscomb1295 Год назад

      god level become in the comics vibrainium can amplify magic and uru can channel it

  • @Darkwarlord1533
    @Darkwarlord1533 Год назад +27

    Pre-watch impressions: Namor is stated to be on par with Thor and the Hulk by in-universe comments and Word of God. That puts him at about Country level at bare minimum. He can also fly and should have centuries of combat experience.
    Momoa Man should be peers with Wonder Woman and Steppenwolf, which puts him in the City Level to Island level neighborhood. We should also take into consideration the fact that he can summon abominations from the depths that should at bare minimum scale to him in power.
    Giving this one to Namor.
    Edit: I had never heard about that Doomsday moon level feat. Obviously completely changes things.

    • @omarscarborough4274
      @omarscarborough4274 Год назад

      Wonder Woman is above Aquaman .

    • @oshura2506
      @oshura2506 Год назад +1

      Your scaling is hilarious

    • @Darkwarlord1533
      @Darkwarlord1533 Год назад

      @@oshura2506 What do you think?

    • @oshura2506
      @oshura2506 Год назад +1

      @@Darkwarlord1533 Namor puts a great fight because he's a more skilled and experienced combatant, but Aquaman is winning high dif

    • @oshura2506
      @oshura2506 Год назад +1

      @@Darkwarlord1533 saying he is as strong as Thor or hulk also just doesn't work for me. Just because someone who worked on the movie said so doesn't make it true, or Captain marvel would be the strongest hero

  • @dobi287
    @dobi287 Год назад +3

    At least he recognizes the scaling is shaky

  • @Pilyluisfer
    @Pilyluisfer Год назад +6

    Could you talk in more detail about the power of Thor in "Thor love and thunder"? Because honestly it's very hard to believe that Thor is at star level

  • @rohangoswamifd868
    @rohangoswamifd868 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think Aquaman wins . Because he is one of the founding member of the Justice League , Aquaman is the strongest atlantian and Aquaman is the king of Atlantis . In land Aquaman can stay and fight for a very long period of time . Aquaman's weapons are very superior and as a king , Aquaman is a expert combatant . Aquaman can lift submarines and tall buildings .

  • @ripper8961
    @ripper8961 Год назад +2

    By the way, when are you going to use the Zack Snyder cut versions of all our heroes when it comes to power scaling? Because they did a lot more than in the Josh Weeden version.

  • @rjmiles01
    @rjmiles01 Год назад +1

    Aquaman is by far more powerful than Namor. Àquaman controls the ocean and animals under the ocean. He posess the Trident the most powerful weapons in creation.. Secondly is superhuman strength Aquaman is clearly stronger. Durability. His Durability stays the same whether is on land or water. Namur or Sub Mariner read is comic loses his powers the longer he is out of water. Aquaman can live on land where Sub Mariner life depends on water

  • @fwglo
    @fwglo Год назад +5

    i’m sorry bro but i really can’t take director statements to face value when his onscreen feats don’t depict anything close to what’s being said. on the other hand aquaman has shown solid results of strength, speed, durability and abilities, he wins in my books (which is onscreen feats with no contradictions) 8/10

    • @akale2620
      @akale2620 Год назад

      This

    • @markmontes17
      @markmontes17 Год назад +4

      If that's the case. The whole Doomsday vs Steppanwolf breaking a moon doesn't count

    • @mcufan1140
      @mcufan1140 Год назад +3

      If so then the most power scaling of supermam, doomsday and steppenwolf is not cannot at all😉

    • @Zaacdrums
      @Zaacdrums Год назад

      So what about most of Superman feats? Like the tectonic plate or the doomsday/steppenwolf feat?

    • @fwglo
      @fwglo Год назад

      @@Zaacdrums i said statements that have zero contradictions, those superman feats don’t have any contradictions to them and if anything are a baseline for the motherbox feat he performed, further implicating that he is well quipped to perform such feats. reading is essential

  • @locks4
    @locks4 Год назад +2

    Namor is 1 tier below thor, hulk and Hercules...namor could give them a run for their money but he loses in the end ( on land)

  • @123bboymeandyou
    @123bboymeandyou Год назад +2

    The scaling on mcu is very high balling 😂🤣

  • @kyartick8502
    @kyartick8502 Год назад +2

    Non gods in the mcu are approaching Thanos level? 🤮🤮 someone please fix the mcu

  • @shawnlord3419
    @shawnlord3419 Год назад +1

    So your not gonna mention the hardon enforcer or aether scaling at bar minimum for namor?

  • @jonathanwiggins7017
    @jonathanwiggins7017 Год назад +13

    I think if you factor in the speed for aquaman that he takes the majority even with the potential power of namor. Basing off the power that we did see though I think this is an easy stomp for Arthur for now anyway especially with the speed advantage not being nullified.

  • @kyartick8502
    @kyartick8502 Год назад +16

    So a near star level character doesn't just obliterate wakanda?

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Год назад +12

      Didn’t I say in the video that the Star level scaling was easily debunkable but merely provided it as an interesting point of discussion?

    • @brandoncruse8532
      @brandoncruse8532 Год назад +5

      @@KeyIssues Yep, and plus destructive capacity is different from AP

    • @azziahrussell38
      @azziahrussell38 Год назад +5

      And his goal wasn’t to wipe it off the map like he said he want to kill the queen … he literally said” I’ll be back in a week and will wipe u off the face of the planet “ give or take a few words

    • @Srijan858
      @Srijan858 Год назад

      @@KeyIssues i think Zack Snyder confirmed that Superman can't lift continent which is just less smaller than tectonic plates or it's a part of it .

    • @Srijan858
      @Srijan858 Год назад

      @@KeyIssues also Namor has less temperature durability than Aquaman, u just need some sort of fire to absorb/ evaporate his water in body

  • @omarscarborough4274
    @omarscarborough4274 Год назад +1

    If do a comic book version of this, please note that DC has increased the strength and power of Aquaman over the last 30 years.

  • @n64central
    @n64central Год назад +24

    I think people need to rewatch Aquaman or at least watch the fight scenes again.
    You have to make a case that Namor can also beat Black Manta AND Ocean Master, and I don’t think that’s possible. Namor is strong but not THAT strong

    • @Aureilius2112
      @Aureilius2112 Год назад +12

      Seems like Namor is straight up physically superior to Aquaman after seeing Wakanda Forever. The guy really feels like a force of nature.

    • @iwthor9095
      @iwthor9095 Год назад +5

      MCU Namor is as strong as Thor and comparable to Hulk if his near water whats Ocean Master and Black Manta gonna do after a punch?

    • @aminkamara6060
      @aminkamara6060 Год назад +4

      @@Aureilius2112 nah fam he is not why are y’all blind 🤦🏽‍♂️
      Dude Aquaman pulled a submarine from the depths of the ocean which namor didn’t do

    • @aminkamara6060
      @aminkamara6060 Год назад

      @@Aureilius2112 so until namor does something like that he isn’t as strong as Aquaman

    • @azziahrussell38
      @azziahrussell38 Год назад +1

      @@Aureilius2112 he hasn’t even got his other powers yet …. Namor is going to be nasty they made the Thor comparison for a reason look at Thor movie 1 vs now

  • @hamzablackfyre3741
    @hamzablackfyre3741 Год назад +18

    You forgot to say that the only reason Namor could cut through the vibranium ships is because his own staff is made of vibranium. If you add super strength so it's possible just like any other for people to cut through it. His strength really doesn't exceed Thanos. Thanos would destroy those ships just the same with his blade.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Год назад +12

      Vibranium doesn’t counter vibranium. Thanos had a more powerful weapon (Uru) stated by the Russos.

    • @danieldansoowusu4869
      @danieldansoowusu4869 Год назад +1

      @@KeyIssues mcu has planetary feats as thor took bifrost bridge explosion in thor 1

    • @danieldansoowusu4869
      @danieldansoowusu4869 Год назад

      Good video and scaling even doe mcu in the beginning had planetary to starlevel even universal feats

    • @jaycole1446
      @jaycole1446 Год назад +1

      Black Panthers claws didn't cut through Captain America's shield just scratched the paint and he's super human even with that being said he still would need to generate enough power to cut through vibranium so easily. Vibranium doesn't cut through vibranium just because it's vibranium

    • @omarscarborough4274
      @omarscarborough4274 Год назад

      Anti-metal can counter vibranium.

  • @erikrodriguez3829
    @erikrodriguez3829 Год назад +3

    Namor gets BODIED

  • @isaac-os7xq
    @isaac-os7xq Год назад +1

    Namor is basically the Mexican black panther

  • @dwaynesilva9203
    @dwaynesilva9203 Год назад +2

    i like both characters and both the actors who play them. so i can't choose😂

  • @stalematesibling
    @stalematesibling Год назад +3

    Jason Momoa's Aquaman was a moron. So.....

  • @DIHNO456
    @DIHNO456 2 месяца назад +1

    Aquaman beats namor Aquaman carried a submarine with ease plus Aquaman has high durability

  • @jonathanmcintosh9258
    @jonathanmcintosh9258 Год назад +1

    What abou the fist inhuman of the mcu vs the first mutant of the mcu?

  • @purplebugfoot456
    @purplebugfoot456 Год назад +4

    Good video. Idk if Khonshu could destroy a moon, he's of a metaphysical God than thor or Zeus but he is powerful. Thor is more powerful in Thor 4. He's in better physical shape, has the Odin force and he's got Zeus's thunderbolt. Hulk is iffy, he got healed from She Hulk blood but strength wise is hard to tell. That said I have methods of figuring out both. For Hulk's strength calc the force behind the terminal velocity go boom boulder throw feat from She Hulk ep1. For Thor, count the number of kids he imbued with the power of Thor in the movie, then multiply endgame Thor's strength or electric power or whatever stat by that number. Might want to compare that to Hela's strength as a way to check since the Odinforce which Thor has now is powerful enough to contain Hela and should be comparable in energy values.

  • @fredrickfletcher2823
    @fredrickfletcher2823 Год назад +1

    Auqaman went toe to toe with Superman

    • @sidecharacter3193
      @sidecharacter3193 Год назад

      No he didn’t, not in the slightest either in the snyder cut or theatrical release

    • @GBamaBoy
      @GBamaBoy Год назад

      Lol. Stop lying

  • @JTAEKOOK4EVRR
    @JTAEKOOK4EVRR Год назад +2

    Aquaman wins no question

  • @jaydenscott1451
    @jaydenscott1451 11 месяцев назад

    There's a second channel?

  • @Mr.watashi
    @Mr.watashi Год назад +11

    NAMOR WAS BAD ASSS

    • @VARJAGAMINGENTERTAINMENT
      @VARJAGAMINGENTERTAINMENT Год назад

      Same as Aquaman

    • @Mr.watashi
      @Mr.watashi Год назад

      @@VARJAGAMINGENTERTAINMENT he cool in DC but I'm talking about Marvel

    • @VARJAGAMINGENTERTAINMENT
      @VARJAGAMINGENTERTAINMENT Год назад

      @@Mr.watashi you're saying namor was bad butt. I meant aquaman is bad butt too. Or even more bad butt.

  • @ValentineRey
    @ValentineRey Год назад +2

    DCeased just ain't cut it versus Marvel. That's why DCEU franchise is dead.

  • @queertitan
    @queertitan Год назад

    Fun Fact: In Marvel Ultimate Alliance, if you have Black Panther/T’Challa selected, you get special dialogue between them.

  • @swaz5582
    @swaz5582 Год назад +3

    and namor literally brought the sun to talokan

    • @chibuikechristopher324
      @chibuikechristopher324 Год назад +2

      Atlantis is already well lit. They have mastered hydroelectricity 😂

  • @wiilee7346
    @wiilee7346 Год назад +1

    Wow, First MCU W against the DCEU in one of your videos

  • @christopherrivera4173
    @christopherrivera4173 Год назад +16

    I know you gave the win to MCU cause so many people complain of DC winning but if your pulling aquaman with he’s most powerful triten Jesus is not even a fight , Namor best chance is to pull Aquaman out of the water into the sky we’re he can fly and Arthur showed in Justice league he’s not a pushover in the sky either when he took effortlessly multiple parademons while free failing . If Arthur pull all the stop I’m sorry Namor is Dying he’s gonna get overwhelmed by the sea creatures and the constant barrage of energy the Triton is gonna be shooting he’s way, also did you forget Arthur speed in the water Holly shit is this an unfair matchup.If it was Aquaman in Justice league with he’s mothers triton than Namor wins cause of he’s healing factor and air advantage but the fight you showed is gonna be a slaughter.

    • @30mattdavies
      @30mattdavies Год назад +1

      Bro you haven’t a clue lol. Aqua man is indeed powerful- Namor is on another level

    • @miggypeso909
      @miggypeso909 Год назад

      @@30mattdavies yeah,a lesser one.

    • @chibuikechristopher324
      @chibuikechristopher324 Год назад

      @@30mattdavies we didn’t even see Namor do anything other than fly and slice ships. All Aquaman’s powers are justified because we’ve seen him trade blows with Wonder Woman in Flashpoint paradox and he has always controlled sea life
      Namor doesn’t stand a chance and it not even fair. DC just beat Marvel to the punch and it’s okay to accept it

  • @filipcesnjak2944
    @filipcesnjak2944 Год назад +1

    In the sea the have super strenght, speed, endurance and durability. On the land they have super strenght and durability. They can communicate with sea life, they have powerful tridants that can shoot magical energy blasts, they get week if they are long time out of sea water, they think like kings. Namour can fly, Aquaman can water bend. Since they depend on sea water, water bending is more useful then flight. Aquaman > Namour.

  • @lvgarcia99
    @lvgarcia99 Год назад +3

    Aqua man hands down

  • @clementmckenzie7041
    @clementmckenzie7041 Год назад

    It's easy to dehydrate a person when you are hydrokinetic

  • @dobi287
    @dobi287 Год назад +2

    Before even watching Namor gets spanked

  • @CordellPotts
    @CordellPotts Год назад

    Do Ocean Man next!

  • @heywardfi
    @heywardfi 3 месяца назад +1

    Well between aquaman and the movie Namor it’s easy. Aqua man would beat him to a pulp. I mean look at Namor. He’s a wimp and not even Atlantean. Marvel screwed up with that version.

  • @M0V13_M4ST3R
    @M0V13_M4ST3R Год назад +1

    Definitely Aquaman.

  • @jefferickson8493
    @jefferickson8493 Год назад +2

    Love all the assumptions taking place in the scaling here... I doubt T'challa is as strong as Namor, but also used a vibranium spear and shredded a Wakandan warship in Black Panther...

  • @joesha28
    @joesha28 Год назад +1

    Coogler saying Namor being Thor or Hulk level is basically hyping his new mcu character to build Shuri's reputation. Definately the movie did not show any of this.

  • @purplebugfoot456
    @purplebugfoot456 Год назад +5

    I really look forward to seeing you guy's Shuri video. She was already a super genius but now she has powers and that combined with her intellect make her potential for buttkicking leagues above her brother.

  • @abrogers3517
    @abrogers3517 Год назад +4

    MCU wins the most important battle, the box office number

  • @spikespiegel2617
    @spikespiegel2617 Год назад +2

    Namor is just better sorry kiddos all bs aside his unpredictability makes him very very formidable and wakanda forever did him justice 🙏

  • @Darkseidsolosfiction
    @Darkseidsolosfiction 10 месяцев назад

    Aquaman has insane durability he took superman's punch and Steppewolf's axe both in snydercut and Joostice league

  • @tmac731
    @tmac731 Год назад +7

    Aquaman has armor. Namor doesn’t, Aquaman can call the entire ocean, Namor can’t

    • @johnelmartagbago3764
      @johnelmartagbago3764 Год назад +1

      Namor literally has Vibranium armor, but it's not covering all of his body. But his agility more than makes up for it.

  • @davidmckenzie1570
    @davidmckenzie1570 Год назад

    Thanks

  • @SUPER_DOOP
    @SUPER_DOOP 3 месяца назад

    The problem with Steppenwolf being moon level is that when Zack Snyder claimed he thought doomsday and broke the moon he was talking about his version not the canon version from the 2017 movie because the Snyder cut isn’t canon to the main DC EU timeline so that version of Steppenwolf that you used never accomplish that feat at least not in that universe but he was amped by the Mother boxes which would scale him higher to planetary

    • @jcvandyck3537
      @jcvandyck3537 День назад

      I mean even if it's not Canon the feat/statement still exists in both movies universes since it's from man of steel

  • @shelsiorouquete
    @shelsiorouquete Год назад +1

    You clearly don’t know anything. The reason namor was able to cut through Wakandas ships was because his spear is made of vibranium, if his spear was just a normal spear then it would of broke in half because vibranium is too hard so your statement about that being his strength is false. Next thing you have already said that your namor scaling is shaky yet you still used it meaning you just wanted namor to win without proving why. Conclusion: this video is biased, we don’t go by shaky scaling and assumptions we go by solid feats and facts

  • @oluwadamilola6233
    @oluwadamilola6233 Год назад +2

    I say on land namor stomps, faster and can fly and seems stronger.
    Underwater, Aquaman win that one. Atleast for now with those fishes. Also namor showed hydrokinesis in the movie where he pulled shuri via hydrokinesis

    • @fwglo
      @fwglo Год назад +1

      aquaman’s combat speed is hypersonic, namor’s isn’t and really the only good speed we see is his flight speed but it isn’t that fast compared to arthur’s

    • @oluwadamilola6233
      @oluwadamilola6233 Год назад

      @@fwglo Not on land bro, he is way faster than Aquaman in Speed and reaction time

  • @xenomorph3161
    @xenomorph3161 Год назад

    Death battle already determined this

  • @hubertozz6835
    @hubertozz6835 Год назад +3

    Namor 🏆

  • @kennethsimpson5231
    @kennethsimpson5231 Год назад

    You people keep forgetting that queen Ramona is a Dora leader a had time to train Shuri everyday despite her love for technology. Consider that.

  • @Totentanz23
    @Totentanz23 Год назад

    Aquaman either has endless legions of sharks attack Namor or flood his body plankton till he asphyxiates or explodes.

  • @shelbywilliams5912
    @shelbywilliams5912 Год назад +2

    I don't know bro like outside of him cutting through the ships which is great and all but I do question what his spear was made out.. are we saying that when the comet crashed that none of the vibranium minerals went into the ocean surrounding wakanda or anything like that they just floated down a river or something... Also like we're being told that he's as strong but outside of that one feat we don't see any more examples to show this set strength level.. basically it's just a voucher this reminds me of Captain marvel "she is the most strongest character in the verse" and I can't believe I'm defending her "Ugh" but she at least showed more than Namor has at least to make that argument for it

    • @locks4
      @locks4 Год назад

      But realize that namor's power is inherent while captain marvels isnt

    • @shelbywilliams5912
      @shelbywilliams5912 Год назад

      @@locks4 that's not the point of my comment though

  • @slipknotron1626
    @slipknotron1626 Год назад +4

    Going off the movies I would go with aquaman

  • @DeyCallMeDrama
    @DeyCallMeDrama Год назад +3

    Aquaman has wayyy better trident fight scenes than Namor.

  • @Unknown-of5lw
    @Unknown-of5lw Год назад

    Can you do Thor (MCU) vs Superman (DCEU)