MGSV - The Secret That Changes EVERYTHING! (Theory)
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My favorite theory is this one. Keep up with the good work.
One things for sure...venom is the only victim in all of this, like David later on. A consumate soldier til the end...
MGSV is probably the most misunderstood Metal Gear Solid.
A great game that demands you to look deeper into it to truly appreciate it.
Great video as always.
Now that you mention it, I 100% agree. I absolutely see how the game can feel empty, but my oh my are the implications of everything just sublime. And it's all there, you just have to look for yourself. It's truly a beautiful example of how the gaming medium can create unique art.
I always found it interesting how I connected so much to FF6 as a kid. It could be because it was a new experience, maybe the simple graphics forcing my brain to meet the presentation half-way, or it could be because of the writing. I'm starting to believe that the truth lies between writing and the character art - the writing can't be nonsensical and the characters can't have tone-deaf reactions.
MGSV really nailed the nuance in acting and expressions, the told story, and general presentation, leading my imagination to work more and meet it halfway. Art.
Such a good game.
MGSV has an amazing hidden story. But many plotlines dont have conclusions like:
Eli(should have been a buddy and his own sidequests like Quiet) and the Child Soldiers would play into it nicely.
Codetalker should also have had a sidequest and maybe give some more hints.
And Huey should have been your Development guy who you talk to and hunt down schematics for.
Ocelot and Miller should have sidequests aswell
And all characters should have been walking around at Mother Base and do stuff with so you care about them
And more Skullface aswell.
We got so many reused side ops and main missions (which some even felt like side ops). That's why its frustrating cause it could have been such a masterpiece but now it just a good game
Just like american politics these days
@@theclawyaww3740 I think you greatly misunderstand the nature of MGSV's story and the themes of the Phantom Pain my friend.
The game opens with "Just another day in a war without end"...the whole game is about the "cycle of revenge" never being broken...In a Kojima interview that is available in the MGSV official guide, Kojima explains the nature of chapter 2 and how the death of Skull Face shapes it...the whole aspect of the repeated missions is meant to serve that very theme.
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About Ocelot's role in the game and nature of the relationships of everyone on mother base clearly stating none of them are "buddies"...which I think is why you don't get to do special sidequests for anyone...they're not meant to bond together, not with you or one another.
i.imgur.com/Vg2OE6n.jpeg
About Eli
i.imgur.com/eUMIbFw.jpeg
I'd also argue that he SHOULDN'T be deployable on the field because that would make him bond with Venom (who he thinks is the real Big Boss) and we know that in canon that he hates Big Boss...so it wouldn't make much sense considering the game has a bonding system with field buddies.
@@balloonfiesta15 I never understood why modern audience hate it when they have to engage with the art on a personal level...we keep hearing about people wanting "immersive experiences"...but what is more immersive than a story that requires you to engage with it on a deeper level? It seems to me like people just don't want to get out of their comfort zones and just want writers to do all the work for them including thinking.
I also agree with you...you brought up Death Stranding as an example and I totally agree with that...it's an example of a game that is being mocked by normies and morons who aren't even willing to give it the time of the day...I could bring another examples of my own aswell...
Ever hear of the original Nier on the PS3? That game never sold well so not alot of people got to play it, it was dismissed mostly because of its graphics to the point the company Cavia who developed it went out of business. Only those who actually played it seemed to praise it story, characters, world etc (myself included) ever since it was released in 2010...This game gained a big cult following over the past decade that a sequel was made...and just recently a remake was announced for it that is coming next April...
Again...I really don't understand why people don't attempt to get out of their comfort zones more often...it seems everyone doesn't have any form of curiosity and act like they know it all.
Kazuhira was only being sneaky about the fact he was making the ultimate hamburger.
Over the past few months i've grown to like MGS V more and more. After all these years, there's still this sense of mystery floating around it. As if something huge is still hidden behind all the clues. It may not be, but I for one choose to believe so. I want to keep the mystery, and the legacy of MGS, alive. Your videos really are a blessing, you're pretty good.
"Ground Zeroes" was Venom's brainwashed memory. It's where it all started hence the title of the game. It's a call back to MGS2 and how Raiden become a special operator through the regular pipeline but also the VR training.
The fox engine never had problems using overlays on existing models like how your own custom emblem would show up on the containers, walls if the base, helicopter, and vehicles and change instantly after altering it. It would mean they could easily reuse assets of stuff and have no Diamond Dogs emblems on anything at all if they wanted without having to change any code or have a designer edit the model if they so chose. Plus even if anyone knows anything about changing textures on 3d models if they did put the DD logo on those original models as part of the texture and wanted to remove that logo it would take a few minutes max to edit the file when removing something like that. Its so easy for them to fix if it was a mistake it don't see how people could still think it was just reusing of textures.
There's no way this was an accident. No way in hell with how much attention to detail every single MGS game is created with, and this game is certainly no exception. Good eye man - they really made it easy to miss here but you caught it - well done.
FIDDLE!!!
Damn though. This is a hell of an update. We still don't really know what happened out there, back in 1984. How could we? The story is seen through a person who has hallucinations and has been lied to.
Maybe we can never truly know.
yea since we wont get a new mgs sequel, we will never truly know. but the videos are still very good and pythonselkan knows how to analyze the smallest details. its always something new!
@@tonylovesducks2501 Absolutely Tony! So glad you're a fan too, that last episode had me thinking you were dead. But alas, you are enjoying life in New Jersey and enjoying MGS deep analysis videos.
Get the gabagool
@@tonylovesducks2501 I still believe one day we will get a sequel.
I absolutely cannot wait for the Ultimate Analysis Part 2!
Damn and we will be waiting till next year 😣
"text was flipped for a particular reason"
I see you are making a connection, looking forward to what you come up with
Special reason, not particular.
Can you even imagine if somehow they announced there is a new metal gear game coming from Kojima? I'd take a dump on the floor wherever I was.
If only (but he doesn't even want to) he wanted MGS2 to be the last, although he did say he'd like to make a game telling the Boss's story from WW2 onwards. But this will only happen if Sony force Konami to relinquish the rights over to Kohima productions.
I remember that scene in MGS2, when Snake spots the UAV and says "cypher". I had no idea what it meant, I guess Master Miller schooled him on all sorts?
This is why I adore MGSV. Ground Zeroes literally spelled out through its mechanics that players would need to look for details and context through gameplay and not being spoonfed, yet people still scraped at TPP asking why there was no story. TPP isn't as tightly knit as GZ and is a lot longer, which is probably why people glossed over the details. Stuff like factions and character motives are explained through observing the environment, finding physical clues like cassettes, and the conversations soldiers have, which is really fun to piece together.
For me, the "eyes on Kazuhira" was always referring to the fact that years later he would be one of David's instructor/mentor and David would eventually kill V in Outer Heaven. Miller seems to actually (emotionally speaking) care about Big Boss and never strike me as very manipulative or complicated (he thinks and acts with his heart and guts) unlike some other characters... At best he likes money a bit too much (in PW that's why he fucked up) but I'm having a hard time picturing him doing the same mistake twice. But maybe that's because I like him.
Yeah Miller is like the kind of friend you would like to have if you were into mercenary king.
from your videos i understood only one thing. that the characters we loved are against us and the characters we hated was with us. kaz was a spy and paz too. ocelot was the closest friend snake ever had. building up the patriots, working together in DD and finally both believing in the Boss's dream. skullface was trying to warn snake for what he was becoming( and also being a pararel snake). major zero,being our former leader, became the head of the patriots. liquid(eli) wanted the same thing snake wanted, destroying the patriots. all in all, i believe that you analysis videos are the best.
Yeah, but Snake is a villain, just like ocelot. Games like MGS3 and MGSV are made to confuse you and feel empathy for these characters. Make no mistake, only Otacon and Snake are the heroes of this franchise
Yeah i wouldnt say they were bad or against us but more of they had their own goals and views. Same for zero and skullface. The only one who really sticked to the boss was probably ocelot.
I think of it differently, I think what the end of MGS4 showed us was that Snake, Solidus and Ocelot had all really been fighting for the same end goal, the destruction of GW and the patriots. Only Snake was the unwitting pawn used by the patriots to stop Solidus and later Ocelot.
@@CJ00014 no, it's to give dept and show that the supposedly bad people of this world can and do do good. And that supposedly good people can and do do bad. There are no bad guys in Metal Gear. I think that was what MGS3 started to deconstruct and continued to show through all the prequels. These bad people simply have an ideology that they, like you (Solid Snake and Otacon), go and support in various ways.
4 years... you kept me waiting for so long
Nice video as always. Also, I'd like to put out one probable connection:
When Skullface finds out that Emmerich is about to run, he drops him off the stairs, saying "I'm taking your "legs" back", yet after he calms down and says "We still have USE FOR HIM" - and after we see Emmerich doing fine in his lab with his "legs" working properly. Of course after we encounter Sahelanthropus with Skullface, and somehow Snake escapes it (and I think he went off too easy from it - like, are bullets supposed to stop flying big mecha?)
And here we have Miller saying "No more USE FOR ME, huh?", when he's about to die from soviet soldiers AND from Skulls sent after Big Boss on his way to chopper... or after him?
well XOF is FOX inversed. could this mean that anything XOF related is not real?
This is key. The all game is like we are fighting a ghost. Looks like we are the trouble makers and the people who sell the solution. Can you see it? Diamond dogs... what a great company
@@dvstokyo hell, even the name "diamond dogs" is a reversal of itself it seems. diamonds and riches on one end, filth and scum as lowly dogs on the other. cause scum and filth, fix it for wealth....who knows. "lay with dogs and you will get fleas"
He (Miller) played us like a damn fiddle!!!
Fission mailed
The way I see it is, all of this mounting evidence of Miller's betrayal from the logo on the crates to "Give her the shot already" is just part of the hypnagogia/brainwashing process facilitated by Zero to stoke division between him and Venom. If Zero could implant doubt into Venom over Kaz's loyalty it would mean Zero could get him out of the picture once he is done playing his "part" for big boss's phantom.
The "give her the shot already" phrase, maybe pronounced by miller, coul also by An evidence of the theory
This puts the whole MGS V saga into perspective. GZ is all a dream or programming. Who knows how long Venom was actually unconscious for.
i'll put this VERY simply ;
why do we attack each other's FOBs if we're all in Diamond Dogs ??
what did Solidus say to Raiden ??
So what if huey hasn't betrayed snake at all? What if it was Miller all along?
i actually never believed huey was truly the traitor, even after everything that happened
for some reason, i just always had a gut instinct about it
The poster! Seems to tie in heavily to the whole Ground Zeroes is what you experience in the hypnogogic state as Venom Snake theory. Can't wait to see what more evidence you find!
Yeah, Kaz supported XOF right from the start as did Paz. They both sold Big Boss out. Tough shit.
Also remember when Ocelot was arguing with Miller over Quiet’s interrogation he said that anyone could be a spy including Miller.
Miller went silent..
It's a nice theory, I'll give you that. But speculation gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever. But that was some fancy analysis. You're pretty good.
analyzing has nothing to do with speculation you clown
@@dermesserschmied2997 You didn't get the joke.
Kojima didn't want to leave a classic masterpiece from the get go and let it be forgotten. He wanted to leave things in the dark for it to be discovered years on, then from a misunderstood game, will become a masterpiece that will be remembered
Eyes on Kazuhira. Miller underwent parasite therapy and has ocular sensory tissue on his skin like Code Talker.
exactly how i heard it.
8:53 the diamond dogs logo is reversed like a mirror reflection. At the end venom awakens infront of a mirror, does this interaction take place in the" mirror"?
Venom also begins infront of a mirror.
Damn, the puzzles are now slowly being pieced together. Can’t wait for the next analysis. Great video
The video is over? Aaah man!!! Great vid guys as always.
8:05 I've read stuff in my dreams many times. I think the whole "not being able to read in a dream" is just an old wives tale.
Thank you for keeping this masterpiece alive. Kojima has created the most intelligent piece of espionage ever. Here's to you.
I agree with you, this is no accident. Also I never really understood the "eyes on Kazuhira" quote. So there must be something behind.
Millers eyes are the same colour as a parasite infected zombie soldier. Maybe that's why the parasites gave the message. I think that's a stretch but the statement is so vague it invites an open interpretation.
@@GenericName86 i see it as a double message. to keep your ears and eyes open about kaz, as hes a snake, and as a metaphorical way to say he has been infected with parasites. kinda like "damn, look at the booty on her!", but shortened.
We all know there is no such thing such as accidents or coincidences with Mr. Kojima
Ever since well before MGSV came out, I've noticed pythonselkans videos continuously. Even now, years after the game they still make metal gear videos.
I must say I appreciate the commitment.
The depth of the story from start to finish is a masterpiece
Yo python, are you familiar with the 204863 mystery? What's your thoughts on it? I'd love to see you do a video on that someday.
I remember most people thinking 204863 is just a fun easter egg of Kojima's birthday, but I am slowly beginning to suspect there may be more to it. It's a recurring gag to Hideo Kojima for a special reason. If anyone wants more info, message me. I simply don't want to comment everything on here because I believe I am getting close to something big. An MGSV easter egg that's never been found before..
code talker says "eyes on Kazuhira Miller." and "meeting between the containers"
so i dont really know maybe it means something
Thanks for still doing this for us Bros! Have a nice weekend!
I discovered your channel yesterday and man, I gotta say I love your content. Very detailed analysis, great editing... Keep up the good work! Subscribed!
Thank you so much for your kind comment! 😊
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The reason we stay excited about our day during this pandemic. You are boss! Thank you for this. And LOOKING FORWARD TO PART 2 of the ULTIMATE ANALYSIS! My fav video on the internet of all time.
"The text was flipped for special reason" and i saw the poster.
Then i have a realization......
Well played Kojima
The goal was to make that venom guy the perfect decoy of BigBoss, inside (in his mind) and outside (doing missions/be knowned).
In all the games, the main character we are controlling is a legendary soldier with fantastic capacities on the battlefield, but they/we get manipulated like a puppet all the time.
I will not be surprised if all the Skullface stuff and the diamond dogs are just differents pieces of the same puzzle, with the same goal to create the best BB decoy possible.
Manipulation is the most
efficient weapon/tool an intelligent mind can use, we can learned that from thoses MGS games.
The first time I ever heard "eyes on kazuhira" I thought he meant to pay attention to Miller's actual eyes, and I still think that. When Snake first rescues him he looks at his eyes and wondered what happened to them. And the cutscene where Miller is on the platform talking to the soldiers he says "from now on you will all be my eyes" (or something like that, it's been a while). Miller's eyes are definitely a secret he's keeping. Not the hamburger thing
Imagine if Snake Eater was released on PS4 and had updates every week. I envy the new generation gamers
no, they envy us
Awesome video - never noticed that Diamond Dogs details before but it does entirely change Everything as you said... Also Amazing is a 5 year old game still has so much to uncover and analyse.... But mind you Hideo Kojima is a genius and stickler to detail so not surprising :)
I can't wait for the new video ! I hope you guys will dig deeper about Skull Face identity and the fact that Mantis is always floating around just before Venom and Skull Face starts to interact.
I truly think this character is the key to understand the Truth about MGS V. You already did great on proving that Ishmael isn't real.
If someone can find out what's really happening in this game even 5 years later, it's only you !
8:12 about the logo thing, kojima also hid a silhouette of “Metal Gear Solid V” behind the phantom pain logo, back when he didn’t want to people to know it was the next Metal Gear Solid game. it didn’t take long for people to figure that out though.
well 2021 is safed. cant wait for the Video. Good work man!
"From "FOX," two phantoms were born."
Big Boss and Zero.
3:57- I didn't know about that. Then again, I did remember a resent Update for Ground Zeros.
9:10- I didn't know about this either. I still have the Legacy Package from 7 years back. The one with Kojima Productions on it.
7:13 I may suggest to use the word "mirrored" to describe this kind of "details" instead of "inversed" expecially for your upcoming return/visit to the Quarantine Platform I presume...
Metal gear solid will never die!!!!
For weeks ive been pondering this betrayal of kaz. Specially with that voice clip with paz. Its just wow.
Writing can appear backwards in a dream...
Kojima did say in time we would come to accept TPP. I always believed ground zeros wasnt real
2021???
That guy always likes to keep you waiting.
you really make me happy dude
Not yet Phyton. It's not over yet.
Metal gear solid full of mystery yet to be solved
2021!? Damn, that's too long!
Dude wtf is that intro its fire
Two phantoms were born, Venom and XOF
They played us like a damn fiddle 🎻
2021 come on please dont keep us waiting
when u aim at the logos and ask for intels does miller say smth? did u test it maybe?
I love your interpretations of MGSV. I feel like you have a very Kojima-brain.
Pause at 07:39 there’s the peace sign on the wall ☮️
So, according to this Ground Zeroes wasn't real? And we have never played as real Big Boss there? I'm a little bit confused.
@Evan Torres-Brooks I want to believe that GZ was a real mission and we played as real Big Boss. Because: 1) it is quite short, but very cool infiltration mission, and it is very Big Boss-ish, if I may put it like that. Besides, Chico and Paz are strong motivation to begin this mission, especially for Big Boss. 2) Venom Snake's "birth" needs reason, and that reason is destruction of MSF. Then explosion, shrapnel and stuff. +1 to "GZ is real". So, that's my thoughts and beliefs:)
The ending of this blew my mind. Kojima is so tricky!
Bro you are like metal gear jesus 💯
I think, XOF doesn't even exist (as it is inverted FOX). Skull face as well, he is just a hallucination
There is a tons of things left unsaid/untold. Just let kojima finish his game !
I never noticed this. Talk about replay value. Can't wait to see part 2.
V has come to... Realize how dispensable he was.
hey uh, whats the music title for Cypher files intro?
Part 2? MY BODY ISN'T READY OMFG
Another thing I never understood is why psycho mantis is in the game. He just keeps appearing and at no point do they ever explain why he's there and who he's working for. I'm sure someone can explain this to me.
He's there because he was in a plane being transported by the Soviets over Cypress around the same time Venom Snake woke up, Venom's negative emotions, anger in particular, stimulated Mantis' psychic powers, which destroyed the plane and made him float to the ground, where he found another with even stronger negative emotions, Volgin, and attached himself to him. He isnt working for anyone, he constantly goes to whoever is feeling the strongest negative emtions at the time, ultimately he leaves and eventually becomes friends with Eli.
They say he sensed the man on fires anger as he was flying in a nearby plane and it caused him to take over as we see in the game, thus leading to venom. All the timing seems a little suspect though
While easy to see the flaws, the amount of detail poured into the simplest of assets is a bit unnerving. I mean Kojima even asked if we “feel the phantom pain” years ago. Oh I feel it alright.
And every time something like this comes up, that is such a mystery, I don’t know how to feel. Fiddles, man. Fiddles.
If XOF is a reversal of FOX ... does that mean that XOF never existed in the first place?
Jesus, Kojima. Just when I thought I had MGSV figured out ...
Omg there's going to be ultimate analysis part 2? The gift that keeps on giving hell yes ❤️ anyway if Miller really was on league with Skull Face that would mean that the ending's dialogue with Ocelot actually takes place before the start of the game 🤯
I guess i ll just keep on coming. Great stuff guys as always.
XOF would be the anti FOX unit ? SKULL face makes me think of the fact that mantis never see his own face when taking one's mind.
Could it be that skull face is...
What if sahelanthropus wasn't being controlled by Liquid through Psycho mantis. But Miller instead.
If he knew about the development of this weapon he must have helped it's development for the sake of stealing it in the end.
This why he was more concerned with it's location than killing skull face.
And in his blind rage it attacked everyone in it's path.
Or perhaps he already knew that venom was not Big boss and wanted him out of the picture.
Sending liquid in the helicopter as a diversion to pin the blame on.
Why do I feel like the C-212 also plays a part, but it's just a guess
Still waiting on a CF, on Huey's motive for betraying MSF.
Thank you very much PythonSelkan!
Your videos are pretty good! Please, show us your thoughts about Big Boss's shadow in GZ, as that might be possibly one of the biggest clues that the mission you play is indeed a simulation.
I can´t remember when Code Talker said that...
We can only find that much details in Kojima games!
Well, I'm excited.
Music at beginning
I can't wait to see the Ultimate Analysis Part 2! 2021's a bit of a wait, but the greatest often keep people waiting, don't you think? 😉
Great, now I’m convinced Kojima knew I was going to deploy to Afghanistan with unit 2-12 in 2016. My command team would have a good laugh. Love these vids, great analysis. Cheers.
Amazing! Keep it up guys
Love Metal Gear Solid Can't wait for the Franchise inevitable return.
Kojima was playing 4d chess while the rest of the world was still playing UNO with the game's reviews.