Part of Armstrong's training regimen included practicing drafting as directed by his coach Laurie Lawrence. Armstrong got on the lane line from the very first meters and maintained his position relative to Biondi the entire race. Notice how Biondi swam on the lane line closer to lane 6 than lane 4. That's because Biondi did not want to create a wake for Artur Wojdat to ride. Wojdat was the world record holder in the 400 freestyle and could come home on Biondi. Armstrong was in the last heat of the preliminaries for the 200 free so he knew that Biondi was second fastest up to that point so Armstrong wanted lane six knowing in the final Biondi would take it out fast while swimming in lane 5. Also in the last heat of the preliminaries was Gross and Armstrong had Gross beat but let Gross pass him so that Armstrong would end up fourth in the preliminaries. It was brilliant strategy all the way. He absolutely deserved that win and it was disgusting how the commentator, John Naber, implied that he somehow won unfairly. ruclips.net/video/7i_6Wvg9vCY/видео.html
Armstrong won silver in the 400 five days later, just two tenths behind the winner who set a new WR. The American commentators are arrogant, he was in sublime form in Seoul.
I'm an American and I agree. I remember watching this race in 1988 and was disgusted with the commentator's implication that somehow Armstrong won unfairly. The commentator's name is John Naber. He won both backstroke events in 1976 but he's always been arrogant. In 1985 I met Naber - he made a point to say how lousy the swimmers from my state are.
The race starts at 10:44. One of the American commentators seems to be implying that Armstrong didn't deserve his victory, that it was more the result of a cunning strategy than swimming talent and hard work.
well yeah, it was both but he would have never gone that fast had biondi not dragged him all the way. Duncan Scott did the same thing with Nathan Adrian, as did Lezak to Alain bernard in 4x100 medley and free relays respectively, those guys never went that fast ever again.
@@sethaldrich6902same with Phelps. He always dragged of every quick swimmer then came over the top, not to mention smoking pot before the race to increase the pain threshold ! Damn these cheats hey? They should all have to swim in a pool on their own to make it fair! Should not be allowed to wear smooth head Capps either as they reduce drag. Gross doesn't cut his toe nails either to get more drive from his feet. Cheers
DO YOU BY ANY CHANCE HAVE THE MENS 800 FREE RELAY FOR THESE GAMES? i TRIED LOOKING BUT COULDNT LOCATE IT. IF YOU HAVE IT, DO YOU HAVE ANY HINTS FOR ME IN HOW TO ENTER IN THE SEARCH ENGINE SO i CAN FIND IT? THANK YOU AGAIN VERY KINDLY FOR THIS GREAT SERVICE AND YOUR EFFORTS. iTS MAKING, TO SAY THE LEAST, COVID ISOLATION MORE THAN BEARABLE!!!
@@westnyacktwins wow. Good grief. That's hilarious but yet we can still see the one from 84 that's epic and we can see the ones from all other games after that. While I have your attention I'm just curious even though we didn't go to the games in 1980 I know that the British and the Australians broadcast it among other nations NBC did not go so there's another Facebook page I'm sorry RUclips page I can't remember the person's name right now who has not all but several maybe 10 of the events that took place for something events in 1980 and very few also of the 76 games in Montreal so we only have the women's gold medal winning 400 free relay I can see the men's 200 butterfly the men's mile I can see the men's 100 freestyle. Oh and the men's 4x2 from 1976 as well but we can't see any other races and I don't know why that is. Do you know if any outlets where we can find them are we barred from seeing the Montreal games I even tried to pull up CBC TV but we can't see any at all That I know of. If you have any information or inside on this I'd appreciate your assistance because I never got I was too young to see the Montreal games. And then there's only one English speaking tape of a race from Moscow that I've seen that's the Australian 4 00 medley relay where there are men when. So in other words like Michelle Ford's gold medal winning race in the 800 freestyle isn't even available. Any thoughts?
I love how the commentary says - you did this! that's a negative!!....and then doesn't give any reason why Armstrong's strategy was illegal or unethical. Heck, in sailing, maneuvering for the wind is a major tactical aspect of the race.
Not sure what you're saying. It was neither illegal nor unethical, nor did it give the supposed "great advantage" that Naber made it out to be. Armstrong went on to take silver in the 400m freestyle, also breaking the former world record there.
Спортсменни некоторих видела в Ваших интервью. Грос три спортсменна по плаванию в те времена некоторие перестали плавать некоторие еще плавали потом также видела двух спортсменнов в Киеве . Я помощник суддьи у Киеве в Відкритий Чемпіонат Києва проходив каждий год Летом в Откритом бассейне и могли смотреть приехавшие на Хрещатике стадион по Футболу , Тенниснние корти , басейн с прижками в воду до 7 метров . Я лично рассказивала в написанних мной рассказах о соревнованиях в газетах и журналах Европи. Помню суддью Nikolay Strembitski Moskwa Ryssia .
Вас помню в Киеве и Wercovia Poland . Вас двое журналистов по плаванию с Америки и Австралии. В Киев приезжали с Америки и Австралии. Poland не принимали спортсменнов с Австралии.
Recuerdo q en esas olimpiadas no paraba de pensar, a mí edad, q la obsesión de los publicistas de hacer biondi el típico novio de América (ved la antinaturalidad de los gestos al acabar las carreras) le desquició. En cambio a Janet Evans le vino fenomenal.
Any day an Aussie beats an American in the pool - is a good day. I still wrankle at Spitz saying Armstrong got a free ride. It's a frickin' 200 - not a 1500. Spitz should know better.
You think American commentators are biased, you should try listening to Japanese commentators. They hardly even acknowledge the existence of other swimmers if there's a Japanese in the race.
Я помню некоторих спортсменов они думали , что у меня старше возраст. Я очень умна они говорили со мной и им нравилось , что Я могла помочь . У одного потерялись очки которими нужно смотреть , кто наступил и раздавил и ми ходили вместе купить очки в оптику там где продаются очки . Я провела екскурсии некоторим спортсменам в Зоопарк у Киеве там пригали мавпочки летали птици и Ми ели мороженное и один из Ваших спортсменнов наверное хотел иметь детей от взрослой спортсменки по бегу и она потом меня спрашивала об некоторих спорстменах и наши газети и журнали виписивали в других странах узнать о тех красивих молодих студентах и школярах Европи .
Я проводила запланированние соревнования для маленьких детей . Помощник Я у Судьи Главного Київ Україна Европа по прижки в воду для детей . По спортивному плаванию журналист моя мама и Я помогала ей, она меня учила Киев Украина Европа , Germany , Paris Franse France , Poland , Dubrownik , Split , ITALIA , Madrid . Belgium Antwerpen , Brussel , Strasburg , Luxemburg , Praga . SiziliA , Marsel , Lion Tuluza .
Actually I think it was pretty fair, it IS what he did, they were just pointing it out, there wasn't any real judgement. It's fair. They're no Bruce McAvaney, but then who is?
![FGBA "Timeless Series" March [ 1 ] 2022: Duncan Armstrong](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Cq9CYvisPX8/mqdefault.jpg)
Part of Armstrong's training regimen included practicing drafting as directed by his coach Laurie Lawrence. Armstrong got on the lane line from the very first meters and maintained his position relative to Biondi the entire race. Notice how Biondi swam on the lane line closer to lane 6 than lane 4. That's because Biondi did not want to create a wake for Artur Wojdat to ride. Wojdat was the world record holder in the 400 freestyle and could come home on Biondi.
Armstrong was in the last heat of the preliminaries for the 200 free so he knew that Biondi was second fastest up to that point so Armstrong wanted lane six knowing in the final Biondi would take it out fast while swimming in lane 5. Also in the last heat of the preliminaries was Gross and Armstrong had Gross beat but let Gross pass him so that Armstrong would end up fourth in the preliminaries. It was brilliant strategy all the way. He absolutely deserved that win and it was disgusting how the commentator, John Naber, implied that he somehow won unfairly.
ruclips.net/video/7i_6Wvg9vCY/видео.html
"Matt's got a huge wave, so I just jumped into the trough and body surfed in..." YOU BEAUTY AUSSIE RIPPER!!!!
I remember this so well….Duncan was awesome 🇦🇺
Armstrong won silver in the 400 five days later, just two tenths behind the winner who set a new WR. The American commentators are arrogant, he was in sublime form in Seoul.
Huh? They clearly said Gross was the favorite. And, in fairness, he was.
I'm an American and I agree. I remember watching this race in 1988 and was disgusted with the commentator's implication that somehow Armstrong won unfairly. The commentator's name is John Naber. He won both backstroke events in 1976 but he's always been arrogant. In 1985 I met Naber - he made a point to say how lousy the swimmers from my state are.
Michael Gross. Such a class act. Quick to congratulate Armstrong in this event, just as he did Sieben in 1984.
TBF Biondi was smiling and laughing with Gross and Armstrong aswell in the pool.
The race starts at 10:44. One of the American commentators seems to be implying that Armstrong didn't deserve his victory, that it was more the result of a cunning strategy than swimming talent and hard work.
well yeah, it was both but he would have never gone that fast had biondi not dragged him all the way. Duncan Scott did the same thing with Nathan Adrian, as did Lezak to Alain bernard in 4x100 medley and free relays respectively, those guys never went that fast ever again.
@@sethaldrich6902 doesn’t mean he didn’t deserve it, he won when it mattered and used biondis wave
@@sethaldrich6902same with Phelps. He always dragged of every quick swimmer then came over the top, not to mention smoking pot before the race to increase the pain threshold ! Damn these cheats hey? They should all have to swim in a pool on their own to make it fair! Should not be allowed to wear smooth head Capps either as they reduce drag.
Gross doesn't cut his toe nails either to get more drive from his feet.
Cheers
Commentator- lane 6 the aussies are always ready !
Laurie Lawrence- we don’t come to get silver . We came for the gold !
The smartest swim by any athlete in the history of the Olympics. Armstrong cruised all the way on the back of Biondi's wake.
Lezak did the same in 08
DA...Legend!!!! What an epic swim!
❤35 years ago fantastic memories by Sophia Strauss composer ♥️🇵🇹🇩🇪😊
Had the biggest crush on Duncan after this!!❤
13:09 judge American sportsmanship by Biondi's smiling congrats to Duncan, not by these two idiot commentators.
Terrible commentating
according to the commentors I could have won a gold by drafting...
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DO YOU BY ANY CHANCE HAVE THE MENS 800 FREE RELAY FOR THESE GAMES? i TRIED LOOKING BUT COULDNT LOCATE IT. IF YOU HAVE IT, DO YOU HAVE ANY HINTS FOR ME IN HOW TO ENTER IN THE SEARCH ENGINE SO i CAN FIND IT? THANK YOU AGAIN VERY KINDLY FOR THIS GREAT SERVICE AND YOUR EFFORTS. iTS MAKING, TO SAY THE LEAST, COVID ISOLATION MORE THAN BEARABLE!!!
Parker528 I had uploaded it at one point. It must have run afoul of the IOC copyright protection.
@@westnyacktwins wow. Good grief. That's hilarious but yet we can still see the one from 84 that's epic and we can see the ones from all other games after that.
While I have your attention I'm just curious even though we didn't go to the games in 1980 I know that the British and the Australians broadcast it among other nations NBC did not go so there's another Facebook page I'm sorry RUclips page I can't remember the person's name right now who has not all but several maybe 10 of the events that took place for something events in 1980 and very few also of the 76 games in Montreal so we only have the women's gold medal winning 400 free relay I can see the men's 200 butterfly the men's mile I can see the men's 100 freestyle. Oh and the men's 4x2 from 1976 as well but we can't see any other races and I don't know why that is. Do you know if any outlets where we can find them are we barred from seeing the Montreal games I even tried to pull up CBC TV but we can't see any at all That I know of. If you have any information or inside on this I'd appreciate your assistance because I never got I was too young to see the Montreal games. And then there's only one English speaking tape of a race from Moscow that I've seen that's the Australian 4 00 medley relay where there are men when. So in other words like Michelle Ford's gold medal winning race in the 800 freestyle isn't even available. Any thoughts?
Parker528 Actually here it is: ruclips.net/video/kcnksCC9Npo/видео.html
Como se llama la canción? 0:28 0:42
I love how the commentary says - you did this! that's a negative!!....and then doesn't give any reason why Armstrong's strategy was illegal or unethical. Heck, in sailing, maneuvering for the wind is a major tactical aspect of the race.
Not sure what you're saying. It was neither illegal nor unethical, nor did it give the supposed "great advantage" that Naber made it out to be. Armstrong went on to take silver in the 400m freestyle, also breaking the former world record there.
@@MrVpassenheim You're misreading the post I think, he is saying it is not illegal just using the conditions.
Terrible commentating during the race. The commentator stopped calling the race for 5 seconds when he released the American couldn’t win.
Back to a time where space between lines were shorter ? :)
O Ex- Nadador Australiano Duncan Armstrong ...Atualmente Tem 49 Anos E É Comentarista Do Programa Wide Of Sports...Da TV Australiana.
Secondo me resta tra le finali sui 200 stile tra le più interessanti. È da rilevare che nuotano con costume a slip e senza cuffia
Спортсменни некоторих видела в Ваших интервью. Грос три спортсменна по плаванию в те времена некоторие перестали плавать некоторие еще плавали потом также видела двух спортсменнов в Киеве . Я помощник суддьи у Киеве в Відкритий Чемпіонат Києва проходив каждий год Летом в Откритом бассейне и могли смотреть приехавшие на Хрещатике стадион по Футболу , Тенниснние корти , басейн с прижками в воду до 7 метров . Я лично рассказивала в написанних мной рассказах о соревнованиях в газетах и журналах Европи. Помню суддью Nikolay Strembitski Moskwa Ryssia .
Check the split
❤uwe Dassler the best by Sophia Strauss composer ♥️🇵🇹🇩🇪😘😚🙏
매트비온디 .미하엘 그로스 .다이빙의 그렉 루가니스 전부 유명한선수들이죠 88년도에 한국에서도 인기많았어요
Вас помню в Киеве и Wercovia Poland . Вас двое журналистов по плаванию с Америки и Австралии. В Киев приезжали с Америки и Австралии. Poland не принимали спортсменнов с Австралии.
OMG how did these commentators get their jobs?
I've never heard such bad sportsmanship!
How so? this was one of the biggest upsets in Olympic history. The confusion just makes it sweeter.
Google "John Naber", that's how he got the job.
@@trn8061 Nonsense. Armstrong was in form, and the American journalists isn’t done their homework
What crap commentary. Biondi is on his own, way in front at the 100m mark, except for Homer who turned first.
Love the US commentator:
'from Bris-BAIN'!
It's pronounced Bris-b'n :)
Just like it's not Mel-BORNE, it's Mel-b'n.
Duncan🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Close race! 😗 Phew!
this is the one that Laurie Lawrence punch steve quartermaine
Lol yep
Recuerdo q en esas olimpiadas no paraba de pensar, a mí edad, q la obsesión de los publicistas de hacer biondi el típico novio de América (ved la antinaturalidad de los gestos al acabar las carreras) le desquició. En cambio a Janet Evans le vino fenomenal.
Any day an Aussie beats an American in the pool - is a good day.
I still wrankle at Spitz saying Armstrong got a free ride.
It's a frickin' 200 - not a 1500.
Spitz should know better.
You think American commentators are biased, you should try listening to Japanese commentators. They hardly even acknowledge the existence of other swimmers if there's a Japanese in the race.
Я помню некоторих спортсменов они думали , что у меня старше возраст. Я очень умна они говорили со мной и им нравилось , что Я могла помочь . У одного потерялись очки которими нужно смотреть , кто наступил и раздавил и ми ходили вместе купить очки в оптику там где продаются очки . Я провела екскурсии некоторим спортсменам в Зоопарк у Киеве там пригали мавпочки летали птици и Ми ели мороженное и один из Ваших спортсменнов наверное хотел иметь детей от взрослой спортсменки по бегу и она потом меня спрашивала об некоторих спорстменах и наши газети и журнали виписивали в других странах узнать о тех красивих молодих студентах и школярах Европи .
Gross lost his best level after 1986
Мама моя Суддья по Фигурному катанию .
Terrible race call, zero atmosphere provided.
Crap commentator...talk about sour grapes from biased commentators.
Athuh lete
Я проводила запланированние соревнования для маленьких детей . Помощник Я у Судьи Главного Київ Україна Европа по прижки в воду для детей . По спортивному плаванию журналист моя мама и Я помогала ей, она меня учила Киев Украина Европа , Germany , Paris Franse France , Poland , Dubrownik , Split , ITALIA , Madrid . Belgium Antwerpen , Brussel , Strasburg , Luxemburg , Praga . SiziliA , Marsel , Lion Tuluza .
Yanks thought they won before the race. Ha ha
AS THEY DO WITH EVERY THING.
Possibly the most pathetic and complaining commentary of all time.
Actually I think it was pretty fair, it IS what he did, they were just pointing it out, there wasn't any real judgement. It's fair. They're no Bruce McAvaney, but then who is?
I thought Armstrong was gonna EAT that lane line.