tell god that innocent children are being killed and it would be nice if he could take a break out of hid busy day to prevent those children from being murdered
I agree! As someone who’s been a Joe Budden observer for many years I remember Mal always being around. It’s so unfortunate to see their friendship dissolve in such a messy way.
Bro if you been watching since it became visual, Joe had been trying to get Mal to come out of his shell for the longest time already. He was saying all the time very passive aggressively; hes too cool to share anything, he was always on his phone, he only really gave input to things that HE wanted to. As a co host its hos job to watch shit and get information on what they can talk about. He was lazy and if thats not it he felt just his pressence was contribution enough. He and Mal said that Joe called him to come down and talk and Mal blew it off 2 to 3 times and thoae were the times where joe was trying to explain the situation and Mal madd it seem like he never reached out to try that very thing. He says that he blew him off and Jersey felt too far he blew it off.
Listen, every one of us will call HR in a hot second if the direct deposit hits and isn’t correct. Let’s not pretend that these gentlemen don’t have reason the be upset if the money was looking funny.
@@lamontelucas17 I don't think they owned the podcast but also I didn't think they had a problem with that but more about being percentage based partners and not knowing what to base the % on. They just need transparency so they can move how they move. Really not to much to ask for.
Kinda goes to what Joe saying. Never prepared, always on the phone. Nothing to say unless joe prompted them. Maybe this is better for everyone involved.
Thats who joe really is ive personally had friends like this in the past they love burnin bridges smh. Manipulate the whole interaction around how the accuser has been done wrong in psychology they call this gas lighting. This just highlighted the shadiness of joe.
He wasn't wrong though.. Joe always put his life on the podcast, every podcaster do. They talk about everyone's business and relationships, but suddenly Rory wants to make himself the exception? that's why he's no where near Andrew Schultz in success.. Rory been talking about others relationships for years, even banned from the Breakfast Club for it.
Mal was spitting no facts. Mal and Rory worked for Joe and they broke down when they found out they didn’t have no ownership or say in nothing about the pod
The ease of their delivery makes me believe them. No ranting, no theatrics, no yes men, just sitting down telling it like it is. Every since Joe started partying with Puff he changed man, I hope he wasn’t touched inappropriately
U know what.. for the first time i might actually be with Mal & Rory on this one. Buddens history with business dealins at this point speaks for itself
Joe the dude that be laughing extra loud when women come around the crew lol. He the dude that will talk bad about his homie so he can have a better chance at baggin her.
I respect my friends, coworkers, and ppl in general, and for Joe to say he doesn't have to respect his friends, obviously he doesn't know the meaning of the word friend.
He didn’t say that. He said saying he owes his friends respect sounds weird. He gives respect naturally to everyone because that’s just him. It’s the owing your friends respect that didn’t sit well with him. Let’s not put words in people’s mouths
To break this down in layman’s terms, it’s like doing a paper route as an independent contractor and the newspaper company doesn’t want to tell you how many papers you’re delivering every week, but wanna pay you whatever and expect you to just take it. For anyone who’s ever had a paper route job, u know exactly what I’m talking about.
@@jkrystal4488 but then the analogy wouldn’t make sense because as an independent paper carrier the newspaper company will NEVER overpay you on purpose...lol
This is all so crazy to me, I’ve been watching this podcast for 4 years but recently stopped listening half a year ago, never thought it’d all go down like this, joe Rory & mal helped me get through years of depression and I mean that from the bottom of my heart not just joe not just Rory not just mal but all 3 I fell in love with the chemistry I’m not really a hip hop head like that but I loved listening to the podcast once a weak and when it became twice a week that was even better and I loved the addition of parks too, man time flies
@@banon.k7403 every level of management should have access to financial information it is not meant to be confidential in anyway these are basic accounting ethics, I don't get why they where asking Joe for it instead of just quietly going to the accounting firm to collect a copy.
@@banon.k7403 The be accurate they were not his employees. The language Joe used told me that.They were Contractors. If they were employees Joe would be looking at a huge lawsuit. I’m not sure the non compete clause is valid when you terminate someone. There’s this thing called Business Ethics ppl forget about.
@@jaywheely7672 I honestly think Joe had it set up where they couldn’t. JMO. I’m thinking how are they turning in expenses? His manager was giving them their checks. It just seems like it wasn’t very organized. There obviously wasn’t HR because there’s no way he would be advised to fire him the way he did.
I can tell a lot of you never had a commission based job. You have to see the numbers, otherwise how would you know what your check should be? These companies will rip you off if you let them. They never want to show the number when the profit is good, but the moment sales are down and your check is short, they have the accountants report stapled to your check.
@@endan2009 they called theirselves giving the tea though.. im sure they could've articulated their opinion on how he's reacted... his role shouldn't b diminished since he has so much to say as well
@@jiberish9396 Well, first of.. they never claimed they wanted to “give the tea”. They just wanted to set the record straight on what was said about them and how they have been handled as “friends” and business partners. Also, we r all now bashing Joe (and Parks) because of how he handled the situation (in public). Rory and Mal would have looked just as messy if they took that route to start talking too spicy and flagrant (or even counterpointing) against each and every member for everything that was said about them. Wouldn’t have been so smart. Everyone now turned on Joe and stuck by Rory and Mal for a reason. They did it correctly. Salute to them, I say.
The fact they showed love for people who followed them from the beginning when they really didn’t have to for whatever the real reason maybe behind closed doors is dope. Thank you for that guys !!
Its wild watching this and talking to my old close friend when this was happening agreeing with everything R&M said. the moment we did some business and money came in and he trying to snake me, was wild af to me. Been homies since we were kids but i should have seen it coming with how he treated other people.
@@greg20423 which makes sense honestly. He's the driving force behind it. It's like signing a deal with a music manager that's your bro but you do his job for him. You pull in something else and you're not keen ob sharing the same profit margin with the new deal. I get it.
@@hereallyfast it does make sense but he’s have to wait until their contract is over to change that which is what he told them he would do but for some reason he’s giving them a hard time now , why? I can only think he robbing them learned from his masters at complex hurt people hurt people lol
@@mcberry24 is it? I’ve never seen Mal talk as much as he did In this video. He has a lot of nice qualities that he hasn’t shown much of. Just listening to him talk. I’m a girl. We pay attention to shit like that believe it or not.
These guys thought the dude who couldn’t understand how “double or nothing” works would be able to figure out percentages on multiple streams of income? 😂
I have finally found the light. I was in denial, but this Meg situation was the last straw. Joe is toxic. I stubbornly didn't listen to this for months. But I believe in Rory and Mal. Joe's narcissism and arrogance will ultimately be his downfall. I canceled my Patreon this week
Joe manipulated the audience into thinking they’re lazy because they didn’t want to be turnt into employees and do separate content. They probaly thought why would we do that when we’re on the main show on the network? It’s like he wanted to force them into more work to feel comfortable for what he’s paying them.
@@deewade2733 Yeah Joe got you drinking the kool aid too. Why did the so called boss apologize? And they told you they don’t work for him and they were naive in trusting their man on handling shit. You never heard this niggas refer to them as employees until money got involved.
@@juanbahama2045 go watch a fucking movie bro there isn’t anything new under the sun you think this is the first time in history someone screwed over their friend you fool... what u woke or something? None of them had their shot straight in the end... Rory and Mal got the short end of the stick so what? He apologized and shot jas their money dummy ... amd u will be watching JB PODCAST just to see what’s up
Imo, I feel like Joe never took Mal and Rory serious as business partners and wasn't trying to build with them, he just needed them for tht podcast. His energy has always been trying to resuscitate what his rap career was suppose to do. Rory needed Joe, to see and understand the mechanics of how a business works so he can build his own. And Mal needed a stable legal bag and accolades for validation purposes. None of them ever had actual trust with each other nor cared abt the podcast, they just wanted to reap the benefits of what came out of it.
I mean they weren't essential, but at the same time they saw how Joe's other business relationships (relationships in general) have turned bad because of him. So they shouldn't really be shocked by it... When Joe asked Lupe to come to the JBP network, Lupe was like he wanted to stay independent. Then turned around and signed with Say What media. Lupe knew not to do any type of business with Joe (probably because Royce warned him)...
Probably the most energy I ever seen Mal speak with, super fucked up what Joe did but as a fan, you can tell that it was time for them to blow it up, happy that Rory and Mal were able to go out on their own
Joe started acting funny after he was chillin with puff.... right around then is when I checked out... catching up now, crazy how shit went... hope these 2 gentlemen are doing well.
Mo money, mo problems.....Big said it best. Joe looking bad after hearing the guys side smdh....crazy that they wanted to take care of the crew. Joe NEVER mentioned them about getting their pockets right. Being a leader isn’t for everyone especially if you putting yourself first, instead of thinking about everyone else as a collective.
I like them 3 together..there are so many ppl that work for years together with no problem but joe is bad business.. the success of the show was because them 3.. they balanced each other out
I wasn’t sure before but based off this video Rory and mal could definitely have their own podcast. hour and some change video felt like 30-45 mins that says a lot they should just bring a guest on to fill the middle spot every few eps (preferably women) shit Gonna hit don’t forget you got the idea from me bitches 😭
@@AlexWazHere I mean you could say it was boring but you sat ya ass right where you at and watched the whole thing and if you didn’t watch the whole thing how would you know it was boring? You just wanted to spark a debate or sum? 😂
Take a page from nick cannon and karlos Miller, dc and chico stuck by their boy and now look how they've grown, all 3 los,dc and chico knew the podcast worked together
@@curtiswilliams2319 not as whole yes I agree but in the sense of the 3 knew they make the podcast and also how they stood up to wild n out to get their boy back its the loyalty
Joe been feeling himself. I'm surprised people still fuck with him. It's sad that money change dude. I support Mal and Rory. If they got a new podcast I will for sure be tuning in.
Joe's the "bad guy", we all agree, ok got it. But Joe has been Joe. He's (unfortunately) been consistent. The red flags have been there, everyone just assumes "he'll never do that with me" despite all the warnings. I'm glad Rory and Mal took accountability, and owned their part in this - I just hope the new JBP members take notes.
The worst part about all of this is they're stand up loyal guys and I bet a bunch of ppl in the industry are going to tell them to be more like Joe! They say the industry isn't fair. Well it's the ppl who make it that way. If ppl did good business more ppl would stay loyal and humble but since everybody believes jerking ppl is the industry way or the Pdiddy way they're going to think that's the way to go.
LOYAL!? Joe let Mal live with him. Joe been giving Mal shelter for years, he invited him to BattleRap joint, the stuff with Eminem, the private Joe's show, the Podcast, he's been literally carrying him for years before Mal even had a home. What does Mal do? TURN ON HIM because his pockets are hurt, because he's too greedy saying "IM OVERWORKING twice a week" and he wants more money. Mal/Rory: It's all about Respect, idgaf about a contract, it's not about money "haha". - But let me make an hour long video, only talking about money, contract & have the response behind a paywall tho Go watch the episode months ago when Joe Announced his Patreon position, Mal was mad as hell, pouting on his phone said NOTHING. Rory faked "Good for you." If your friends can't be happy for you when you're up, just because they're not up, they're not your friends.. This is greed, not loyalty.
@@baby333 Mal family got money his brother co found roc a fella and his other brother a hip hop legend. That’s why he’s always at jay z parties he’s inviting joe. Mal was being a humble homie letting joe talk crazy. So yea loyal
@@Taxthechurch Exactly what Akademiks said, Mal been carried by Joe & his brother his whole life. He never did a thing HIMSELF, "Loyal" because he turned on Joe for money? after all what Joe did to him? Look at when they returned..They LIED TO EVERYONE saying its all about respect, nothing about money, nothing about contract, now they tell the truth.. it was ALL ABOUT MONEY, ALL ABOUT CONTRACT, nothing about riding with Rory and nothing with Respect. Mal a greedy snake, that's big facts.
Joe can’t trust anyone bc he does things that aren’t trustworthy. And bc the things he does are in his best interest he uses it as an excuse but gets upset when ppl defend themselves in their best interest
I’ve said it a million times look at joes track record burns every bridge, and parks talking really shows the temperature in the room, I really wanna see Rory & mal on top of shit!!!
I have a lot of respect for you guys , I think a lot of us are learning from your guises experiences especially myself going into business you’re really showing us kind of like a blueprint on how to handle it especially starting a business with friends, I’m excited to continue to watch your podcast you guys are the reason why I always watch the Joe Budden podcast to be honest
Joe Budden seems to think ppl are disposable. That's a very dangerous way to be. I thought he only thought this way about women. But now I see he thinks this about everyone.
Whoever is reading this, God has plan , trust the process 🙏🏾
Amen! Thank you! Need to read that! Blessings 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Whoever is this your grammar sucks. 😂
@@deewade2733 Your grammar isn’t so great either!!! Lol
@@Dryphish_ Don’t give up. Acknowledge Him and he will acknowledge you. Facts.
tell god that innocent children are being killed and it would be nice if he could take a break out of hid busy day to prevent those children from being murdered
I believe this version of the situation
I like regular chair mal 😂😂😂
I ain't never seen anyone wear an Amiri hat😂😂
😂🤣
Mal in a zone!
Boi Stop 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Facts
Rory is frustrated but Mal is really hurt. Mal's got 10+ years of friendship, living together, brotherhood. This cuts him deep.
I agree! As someone who’s been a Joe Budden observer for many years I remember Mal always being around. It’s so unfortunate to see their friendship dissolve in such a messy way.
Right
You don't get that raw and heated unless your true mans says some hurtful ass shit
Bro if you been watching since it became visual, Joe had been trying to get Mal to come out of his shell for the longest time already. He was saying all the time very passive aggressively; hes too cool to share anything, he was always on his phone, he only really gave input to things that HE wanted to. As a co host its hos job to watch shit and get information on what they can talk about. He was lazy and if thats not it he felt just his pressence was contribution enough.
He and Mal said that Joe called him to come down and talk and Mal blew it off 2 to 3 times and thoae were the times where joe was trying to explain the situation and Mal madd it seem like he never reached out to try that very thing. He says that he blew him off and Jersey felt too far he blew it off.
Damn! Joe! Looking like how joe was looking before the Pod blew up! He tried to treat them like how the industry treated him!!
Everything comes full circle.
basically.
Joe fucked these over big time. How you gonna give someone a profit % contract and not tell how much profit has been made?
@*Big Bad Wolf* yea you a weirdo
EXACTLY
Listen, every one of us will call HR in a hot second if the direct deposit hits and isn’t correct. Let’s not pretend that these gentlemen don’t have reason the be upset if the money was looking funny.
Exactly!
Exactly. That check $1 short and I’m callin!
And they better make it right TODAY! I aint waiting to the next period. Yall better cut me a paper check!
@Gem Rose My job dont have petty cash so...Cut the check!
They didn’t have to pay anybody or do paperwork. Shit money always look funny to employees that don’t foot bills.
umma side with Rory & Mal with this one... Who blasts their "friends" on air and fires them live. We been knew Joe's character was sketchy.
@*Big Bad Wolf* lololol spoken like a true slimy ass person. I bet you're winning in your personal relationships
I have one question did they own the pod or not ... business and friendship don’t mix. No one cares about loyalty when business is involved sadly
@*Big Bad Wolf* get out your feelings. These guys don’t produce value like that.
@@lamontelucas17 I don't think they owned the podcast but also I didn't think they had a problem with that but more about being percentage based partners and not knowing what to base the % on. They just need transparency so they can move how they move. Really not to much to ask for.
Did you actually listen to the video?? They clearly answered your question!
Dis the most energetic and talkative mal ever been
Right. I never knew he even had a personality 🤣
I needed all this podcast energy from mal years ago
Kinda goes to what Joe saying. Never prepared, always on the phone. Nothing to say unless joe prompted them. Maybe this is better for everyone involved.
Right neega Mr. Talk talk now
@@mattblack9720 absolutely
I’m not the smartest ***** in the room
But I’m definitely not the dumbest ***** in the room- Mal
So u just signing over power to people then crying about it later? Com’n man
@I hate He hers and he him be normal show me the news article
Or blog where they say they are taken legal action?
@@deewade2733 did you even listen lol?
@@t.bby619 f mal f Rory f joe they got there money that’s why they fighting over it....
As someone that has survived my share of narcissists, Joe Budden makes my skin crawl.
You say that with a devil thumbnail
Yeah I’m sure everyone you run into is the narcissist. Look inward bud
@@snxttynozedoc169 Not a devil at all. Literally just a red filter 😂
@@ckypaintballer 😀
Yuck
" He's wearing funny hats 🤠... I'm dead"
Had me dead
@@dmtmediabrothers on everything! Lol
@Gem Rose mans was deadass serious
Yo same. When he first said initially I thought he meant changing attitudes and stuff/ behavior. NOPE he meant funny hats fr. 😅😂😅
😭😭😭😭😭💀
I felt it was going left when Joe was saying that Rory was paying for his relationship. It made Rory really upset. Joe is just miserable.
Thats who joe really is ive personally had friends like this in the past they love burnin bridges smh. Manipulate the whole interaction around how the accuser has been done wrong in psychology they call this gas lighting. This just highlighted the shadiness of joe.
He wasn't wrong though.. Joe always put his life on the podcast, every podcaster do. They talk about everyone's business and relationships, but suddenly Rory wants to make himself the exception? that's why he's no where near Andrew Schultz in success..
Rory been talking about others relationships for years, even banned from the Breakfast Club for it.
@@baby333 his girl didn’t want to be talked about on the pod and he tried to respect that. And the guys tried to respect that too
Love Mal's energy lol. He's just spitting facts and life lessons on this one. Hopefully we can hear these two somewhere in the future.
The outfit proves he feels what he’s speaking on!
This aged beautifully lol
Mal was spitting no facts. Mal and Rory worked for Joe and they broke down when they found out they didn’t have no ownership or say in nothing about the pod
The ease of their delivery makes me believe them. No ranting, no theatrics, no yes men, just sitting down telling it like it is. Every since Joe started partying with Puff he changed man, I hope he wasn’t touched inappropriately
N that says their truthful ? U should not be a judge
Joes probably the one doing some touching lmao
@@soundboy7239 ok parks
The history of Joe and his bad bizz and fallen freindships is a dead giveaway.
Speaking of inappropriate touching didnt Olivia dope just accuse joe of sexual harrassment
Respect to Rory and Mal. Everybody forgot that Joe Budden is a fucked up dude because of the pod success
U know what.. for the first time i might actually be with Mal & Rory on this one. Buddens history with business dealins at this point speaks for itself
I come back from time To time this was highly anticipated I remember
Absolutely love Rory & Mal 😩 their podcast is doing GREAT! Goes to show when you're genuine you will always be on top
Joe the dude that be laughing extra loud when women come around the crew lol. He the dude that will talk bad about his homie so he can have a better chance at baggin her.
YESSSIR, i think its on film actually lol. I always hated that guy so much in the crew, mad fake personalities. Smh.
Sooo true. Even when they had a guest on the podcast, Joe the first one to get loud and start dissing the crew to look cool in front of the guest.
@@johnbueller9856 Bruh, especially Bridget Kelly. Watch when she's on the first time in the 120's or 130's and it is just disgusting how he acts.
@@johnbueller9856 Yep thats him all day. Gotta stay away from people like that
They about to start the No Budden Podcast together
*No Bud'n Podcast* (name modded so joe cant sue)😂😂
lmao your comment deserve more likes
Or the pump it up jump off!
Lmfao
Oh they did lol
I respect my friends, coworkers, and ppl in general, and for Joe to say he doesn't have to respect his friends, obviously he doesn't know the meaning of the word friend.
He didn’t say that. He said saying he owes his friends respect sounds weird. He gives respect naturally to everyone because that’s just him. It’s the owing your friends respect that didn’t sit well with him. Let’s not put words in people’s mouths
@@FefeChoosey Joe said he doesn't have to respect his friends, and I said what he said, Ok.
Thats why Joe didn't want to speak on Diddy when he was most recently called out.
I hate using labels. It's good watching two grown ass men come together against ANYONE oppressive.
Ik I'm late im just getting vocal🤣
To break this down in layman’s terms, it’s like doing a paper route as an independent contractor and the newspaper company doesn’t want to tell you how many papers you’re delivering every week, but wanna pay you whatever and expect you to just take it.
For anyone who’s ever had a paper route job, u know exactly what I’m talking about.
Overpaid..not just paid whatever lol
@@jkrystal4488 but then the analogy wouldn’t make sense because as an independent paper carrier the newspaper company will NEVER overpay you on purpose...lol
@@doeman35
Ignore this chic...she doesn’t have clue. 🤣
@@jkrystal4488 🤣 does it hurt to think
@@jkrystal4488 you must have been sitting on your brain when you typed that😂
Joe cool w/ puff of course he’s going to be on the same bs lol u see he never think puff does anything wrong n business
nah son it's well known bout puff
@@BlackHart730 he talking about Joe opinion on Diddy
Kinda remind me of when Ye was like, "Why you think me and Dame cool, we both assh*les." Lol
"When people show you who they are - believe them." Maya Angelou
I can totally see what Rory and mal are talking about 💯
A whole lot of nothing
@@deewade2733 - joe budden troll has entered the chat...
This is all so crazy to me, I’ve been watching this podcast for 4 years but recently stopped listening half a year ago, never thought it’d all go down like this, joe Rory & mal helped me get through years of depression and I mean that from the bottom of my heart not just joe not just Rory not just mal but all 3 I fell in love with the chemistry I’m not really a hip hop head like that but I loved listening to the podcast once a weak and when it became twice a week that was even better and I loved the addition of parks too, man time flies
Glad you beat depression bro thats the best thing in read in this message.
@@deeznutz8320 appreciate that man
Keep fighting ....because your still here means your a warrior...not a worrier 🙏🏽
Hope you’re still thriving!
Them air maxes is dope !
Are*
@@Mr.CoachBeaulieu are we human or are we dancers
You inbox him your number?
There 1500$$$ I've always liked em but they to much $ now
The Accounting department is responsible for sharing all the financial statements to all parties without any permission from whoever.
Right, I’m like they should have been receiving at least quarterly reports, if not monthly.
These are employees. What part don’t you get
@@banon.k7403 every level of management should have access to financial information it is not meant to be confidential in anyway these are basic accounting ethics, I don't get why they where asking Joe for it instead of just quietly going to the accounting firm to collect a copy.
@@banon.k7403 The be accurate they were not his employees. The language Joe used told me that.They were Contractors. If they were employees Joe would be looking at a huge lawsuit. I’m not sure the non compete clause is valid when you terminate someone. There’s this thing called Business Ethics ppl forget about.
@@jaywheely7672 I honestly think Joe had it set up where they couldn’t. JMO. I’m thinking how are they turning in expenses? His manager was giving them their checks. It just seems like it wasn’t very organized. There obviously wasn’t HR because there’s no way he would be advised to fire him the way he did.
AK said it Right, joe never looked at them as friends just employees
aks an annoying herb
I like this mal
Winny and crying, he can take his sensitive ass on somewhere
@@kimberlyjohnson651 much better than joe lol
I LOVE this Mal
@Gem Rose same I ain't watching that shit again either.
@@kimberlyjohnson651 You talking about Joe or Jamal I’m confused
Mal's brother co founded Roc A Fella. Yall really think he broke? He keeps saying he doesn't care about the money bc he's never going to be broke
Obviously you want to establish yourself and not live off family shit forever tho
Roc A Fella been over. And that's his brother not his wife. People claimed that Dame was broke.
@@beachavebaby layman's terms.
@@beachavebaby is that you joe
@95STee bruh if he brought nothing to the pod why are u here watching him now ???????????
I can tell a lot of you never had a commission based job. You have to see the numbers, otherwise how would you know what your check should be? These companies will rip you off if you let them. They never want to show the number when the profit is good, but the moment sales are down and your check is short, they have the accountants report stapled to your check.
They should've talk about how they feel about Parks now.
Ooooooh facts
That’s what that “Parks Parks Parks” was .. They just wanted to keep it classy and not veer off from the main points.. kudos to them
@@endan2009 they called theirselves giving the tea though.. im sure they could've articulated their opinion on how he's reacted... his role shouldn't b diminished since he has so much to say as well
@@jiberish9396 Well, first of.. they never claimed they wanted to “give the tea”. They just wanted to set the record straight on what was said about them and how they have been handled as “friends” and business partners. Also, we r all now bashing Joe (and Parks) because of how he handled the situation (in public). Rory and Mal would have looked just as messy if they took that route to start talking too spicy and flagrant (or even counterpointing) against each and every member for everything that was said about them. Wouldn’t have been so smart. Everyone now turned on Joe and stuck by Rory and Mal for a reason. They did it correctly. Salute to them, I say.
@@endan2009 timestamp?
Gotta admit. I do like this side of Mal. I guess you gotta pass him off to get this energy from him.....I can relate.
Facts. Especially when it’s someone you love trying to play you especially publicly.
Respect to Rory and Mal for speaking their truth just listening to them you can tell that they are real and believable.
Cap
I wouldn’t say that about nobody I never met but I can say I think both sides have truths and falses but they are telling more truth.
this set nice ngl
It is, and it looks like the set where Wayno records his podcast.
It looks like WTFMedia, Weezy and Alex business.
Ignoring red flags because you want to see the good in people will cost you later.
The fact they showed love for people who followed them from the beginning when they really didn’t have to for whatever the real reason maybe behind closed doors is dope. Thank you for that guys !!
Its wild watching this and talking to my old close friend when this was happening agreeing with everything R&M said. the moment we did some business and money came in and he trying to snake me, was wild af to me. Been homies since we were kids but i should have seen it coming with how he treated other people.
They actually make sense. If their contract is percentage based then it's percentage based.
But you heard how it’s percentage based until the numbers get to big now he wants to give them a fixed income
@@greg20423 which makes sense honestly. He's the driving force behind it. It's like signing a deal with a music manager that's your bro but you do his job for him. You pull in something else and you're not keen ob sharing the same profit margin with the new deal. I get it.
@@hereallyfast it does make sense but he’s have to wait until their contract is over to change that which is what he told them he would do but for some reason he’s giving them a hard time now , why? I can only think he robbing them learned from his masters at complex hurt people hurt people lol
@@hereallyfast actually it makes no sense since they have a contract.. he was just being greedy and now they have nothing
Rooting for these 2. Thanks for the upload.
Me & You both 💪🏾
You have made the same comment multiple times on this video. You mad whack for that!
apart from everything else, these two can start a podcast on their own, this was well done 👍
Joe is clearly compensating for how much he WASN'T successful as a rapper.
I love Rory and Mal so much!! Hate that things ended like that with the podcast 😩
Mal would make a really great husband and dad. So genuine,loving, and considerate.
Yep
🤾🏽♀️
Lmao
Lol weird ass comment
@@mcberry24 is it? I’ve never seen Mal talk as much as he did In this video. He has a lot of nice qualities that he hasn’t shown much of. Just listening to him talk. I’m a girl. We pay attention to shit like that believe it or not.
These guys thought the dude who couldn’t understand how “double or nothing” works would be able to figure out percentages on multiple streams of income? 😂
I have finally found the light. I was in denial, but this Meg situation was the last straw. Joe is toxic. I stubbornly didn't listen to this for months. But I believe in Rory and Mal. Joe's narcissism and arrogance will ultimately be his downfall. I canceled my Patreon this week
I’n the words of a respected man. “This Crazzzy!”
Hiding detergent is kraaazy 🤔🤔🤔
@@thecreamofthecrop2694 why you believe everything that comes out of ppls pie holes?
@@thecreamofthecrop2694 not really , joe probably was taking what didn’t belong to him- using up stuff and not replacing it .
Joe manipulated the audience into thinking they’re lazy because they didn’t want to be turnt into employees and do separate content. They probaly thought why would we do that when we’re on the main show on the network? It’s like he wanted to force them into more work to feel comfortable for what he’s paying them.
A boss has access to accounting paper work Joe said no and they couldn’t do a damn thing... that makes them employees
@@deewade2733 Yeah Joe got you drinking the kool aid too. Why did the so called boss apologize? And they told you they don’t work for him and they were naive in trusting their man on handling shit. You never heard this niggas refer to them as employees until money got involved.
@@juanbahama2045 go watch a fucking movie bro there isn’t anything new under the sun you think this is the first time in history someone screwed over their friend you fool... what u woke or something? None of them had their shot straight in the end... Rory and Mal got the short end of the stick so what? He apologized and shot jas their money dummy ... amd u will be watching JB PODCAST just to see what’s up
@I hate He hers and he him be normal so this is the end of Joe’s career?
@Owen Grange so why not sue?
Imo, I feel like Joe never took Mal and Rory serious as business partners and wasn't trying to build with them, he just needed them for tht podcast. His energy has always been trying to resuscitate what his rap career was suppose to do. Rory needed Joe, to see and understand the mechanics of how a business works so he can build his own. And Mal needed a stable legal bag and accolades for validation purposes. None of them ever had actual trust with each other nor cared abt the podcast, they just wanted to reap the benefits of what came out of it.
I mean they weren't essential, but at the same time they saw how Joe's other business relationships (relationships in general) have turned bad because of him. So they shouldn't really be shocked by it...
When Joe asked Lupe to come to the JBP network, Lupe was like he wanted to stay independent. Then turned around and signed with Say What media. Lupe knew not to do any type of business with Joe (probably because Royce warned him)...
Probably the most energy I ever seen Mal speak with, super fucked up what Joe did but as a fan, you can tell that it was time for them to blow it up, happy that Rory and Mal were able to go out on their own
They should do their own pod, I’d listen and subscribe.
thanks for risking your channel!
Coming here after the ish and joe arguments is hilarious. Mal was right the whole time
Joe started acting funny after he was chillin with puff.... right around then is when I checked out... catching up now, crazy how shit went... hope these 2 gentlemen are doing well.
They are. Checc out there podcast if you already havent. Joes doing good too. I think theyve put this past them.
After the last 2 uploads y'all definitely earned my sub
Mo money, mo problems.....Big said it best. Joe looking bad after hearing the guys side smdh....crazy that they wanted to take care of the crew. Joe NEVER mentioned them about getting their pockets right. Being a leader isn’t for everyone especially if you putting yourself first, instead of thinking about everyone else as a collective.
That first Flip Out was the first sign! I’ve learned a lot in years that flip ment I DONT FUCK WITH YOU LIKE THAT!!
I need to see more from these two in this format
Percentage Based Contract? Interesting twist!
That changed everything for me
I swear if everyone in the world can be like Mal, the world will be a better place. RESPECT!!!
So calling someone a thief if you never seen the accounting?? LOL stop d riding these losers
Mal is right , it's all three of their energy that makes their show awesome 👍 I'm gonna miss it 🥺
If Joe can do Mal like this... I will never trust my friends beyond a certain point ever again🤦🏽♂️
Amen! Mal really been there since before this… he was around when he was with Tahiry. It’s sad because you can tell Mal is a loyal friend.
They pioneered that blue background and made everyone else step they game up!
Don’t let the money compromise your true intentions and aspirations in this life.
I like them 3 together..there are so many ppl that work for years together with no problem but joe is bad business.. the success of the show was because them 3.. they balanced each other out
I wasn’t sure before but based off this video Rory and mal could definitely have their own podcast. hour and some change video felt like 30-45 mins that says a lot they should just bring a guest on to fill the middle spot every few eps (preferably women) shit Gonna hit don’t forget you got the idea from me bitches 😭
Shot was boring, they bring nothing to the table. You're delusional.
@@AlexWazHere it’s boring because they addressing 1 topic lol it’s not a pod fr bruh
Agreed
@@AlexWazHere I mean you could say it was boring but you sat ya ass right where you at and watched the whole thing and if you didn’t watch the whole thing how would you know it was boring? You just wanted to spark a debate or sum? 😂
I like Rory & Maul, but people tune into JBP (or any non-entertainment medium) because of the drama and entertainment...
Mal speaking truth on the business side of things. Joe looking mad suspect here. Keep an eye on your "friends".
I think Rory and Mal forgot Joe is crazy.
I would listen to their podcast
Me too i feel like this has to happen so they could get away from the bad Apple and make they money and possibly be bigger
Take a page from nick cannon and karlos Miller, dc and chico stuck by their boy and now look how they've grown, all 3 los,dc and chico knew the podcast worked together
Cant compare 85south to this... Dc carlos. And chico goated
@@curtiswilliams2319 not as whole yes I agree but in the sense of the 3 knew they make the podcast and also how they stood up to wild n out to get their boy back its the loyalty
@@ashrafasmal6290 ok i agree... And im sure they had differences too .. But at the end they stuck together
@@curtiswilliams2319 yes exactly thats why I mentioned take a page from their book
Facts that 85 south show blew up wayyyyy bigger than the jbp and they were doing it only for a few years
The amiri hat was veryyyyyy telling lol
Start a Ror & Mal podcast.... Good Respect.
I don't think they can for a year
@@ShowMeTheMoney617 They are nobodies, i hope they are gonna be succesfull but the market is oversaturated
Joe been feeling himself. I'm surprised people still fuck with him. It's sad that money change dude. I support Mal and Rory. If they got a new podcast I will for sure be tuning in.
Mal just grows on you with the type of standup Niggah he is
Hes wearing funny hats i hollared 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Joe Buddens hours are from "9 to 5!!" 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Bwaahahahahaaaaa this gonna go over so many heads
@@mikegarcia9908 lol right
Yoooo Big Red was pimping blood, sweat and tears out of dude that night🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joe's the "bad guy", we all agree, ok got it.
But Joe has been Joe. He's (unfortunately) been consistent. The red flags have been there, everyone just assumes "he'll never do that with me" despite all the warnings. I'm glad Rory and Mal took accountability, and owned their part in this - I just hope the new JBP members take notes.
The worst part about all of this is they're stand up loyal guys and I bet a bunch of ppl in the industry are going to tell them to be more like Joe! They say the industry isn't fair. Well it's the ppl who make it that way. If ppl did good business more ppl would stay loyal and humble but since everybody believes jerking ppl is the industry way or the Pdiddy way they're going to think that's the way to go.
Sadly
LOYAL!? Joe let Mal live with him. Joe been giving Mal shelter for years, he invited him to BattleRap joint, the stuff with Eminem, the private Joe's show, the Podcast, he's been literally carrying him for years before Mal even had a home. What does Mal do? TURN ON HIM because his pockets are hurt, because he's too greedy saying "IM OVERWORKING twice a week" and he wants more money.
Mal/Rory: It's all about Respect, idgaf about a contract, it's not about money "haha". - But let me make an hour long video, only talking about money, contract & have the response behind a paywall tho
Go watch the episode months ago when Joe Announced his Patreon position, Mal was mad as hell, pouting on his phone said NOTHING. Rory faked "Good for you." If your friends can't be happy for you when you're up, just because they're not up, they're not your friends..
This is greed, not loyalty.
@@baby333 Mal family got money his brother co found roc a fella and his other brother a hip hop legend. That’s why he’s always at jay z parties he’s inviting joe. Mal was being a humble homie letting joe talk crazy. So yea loyal
@@Taxthechurch Exactly what Akademiks said, Mal been carried by Joe & his brother his whole life. He never did a thing HIMSELF, "Loyal" because he turned on Joe for money? after all what Joe did to him? Look at when they returned..They LIED TO EVERYONE saying its all about respect, nothing about money, nothing about contract, now they tell the truth.. it was ALL ABOUT MONEY, ALL ABOUT CONTRACT, nothing about riding with Rory and nothing with Respect.
Mal a greedy snake, that's big facts.
@@baby333 joe was the disloyal. He was stealing from them did you watch the video. You must be me a child!
Parks …parks….parks….parks!
Joe can’t trust anyone bc he does things that aren’t trustworthy. And bc the things he does are in his best interest he uses it as an excuse but gets upset when ppl defend themselves in their best interest
Never do business with 3 people. 2 will always saddle up against you.
I’ve said it a million times look at joes track record burns every bridge, and parks talking really shows the temperature in the room, I really wanna see Rory & mal on top of shit!!!
Respect to these two brothers and I pray for Joe. Hes not a bad person but he needs help.
Nobody gonna talk about how somebody broke into the uploaders garage during the video. I hope he's okay lol
A year later, & as much as I always/still love both pods, I DONT see how you CANT be on Rory & Mal’s side..
Right
Yup💯
Mal and Rory messed it up.
R and M don't have a leg to stand on. He's corny and now wants to sue after saying "it's not about money " foh
“I never seen a Nigga where a amiri hat in my life “ forever funny as fucc 😭😭😭😭😭
Wear
I'm glad they finally spoke up. Salute to them 💯
Side note: I see you Rory! Skin glowin', slimmed down, full sleeve. Looks good on ya 👌🏾
This is why you don’t “start” business with close friends , the attachment gets over the business
You can tell Mal is a real one .
"You have a calculator right?" has sent me🤣
I have a lot of respect for you guys , I think a lot of us are learning from your guises experiences especially myself going into business you’re really showing us kind of like a blueprint on how to handle it especially starting a business with friends, I’m excited to continue to watch your podcast you guys are the reason why I always watch the Joe Budden podcast to be honest
Joe Budden seems to think ppl are disposable. That's a very dangerous way to be. I thought he only thought this way about women. But now I see he thinks this about everyone.
I seen someone mention how Rory did that cord cutting and everything got cut off.
Joe gotta go in his pockets for that Spotify deal watch
I would love a podcast with these 2