the "creator" of this device stole the product from horl. A german company that has a patent. This is a clear patent breach, and that's why it's sold only in U.S.
I know this ain't some high population field of audience but this is a great review. I really appreciate how professional you made it versus others and how simple and clean your explanations are. While it may not be the most rewarding thing, I greatly appreciate your review.
Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I just present things I work with or topics I think would be interesting to the cooking and bbq community. Hope you enjoy my other past and upcoming videos. Appreciate you watching. J
@@UkuleleJayBBQ Please make sure to note the original inventor, horl. Man behind this knock-off breached the patent and is hiding behind U.S. paperology.
No doubt with your comments. He gave a GREAT review and hit the things I was thinking about. I also would like to see some different grits. Spot on review for what I was looking for. Thank you.
As a whetstone lover, I can't deny this sytem looks promising since the frist time I saw it Looks pretty safe and easy to operate, at least for my wife. Unlike whetstone that requires alot of practice and experience "just for" sharpen knives. Great review! Thank you, sir
Thanks. Yes, my Worksharp belt sharpener & whetstone are my main go to but this makes quick sharpening so easy for anyone who does not want to spend the time learning a whetstone.
To sharpen with this correctly also requires practise since you need to apply constant pressure while rolling that thing along the entire length of the edge, which is not so easy with two moving parts. A flat whetstone is so much easier to work with.
The German company HORL that invented this system (and that has taken legal action) has a bunch of useful accessories and the ability to swap out the discs for finer and coarser grinding. It's more money, but it might be a better long term investment, particularly if these guys lose their legal battle and go tits up.
oof, I just looked up that HORL company's product and the Tumblr product looks like a direct copy. I will definitely be going with the original now. Thanks for the comment.
The fact that your comment isnt liked by the channel speaks plenty about this 'review', plenty of liked comments by the channel yet one mentioning shady stuff done by the TUMBLER isnt. Isnt doing sponsorships without disclosing it illegal?
How are you not more popular? I was looking for reviews on this thing and got exaclty was I was looking for. Very professional, honest review with insight into using it too. You definitely deserve more attention from this platform
Thanks a million. I have many more videos coming and the next one will be this weekend on the HONE diamond disc rolling sharpener and the new accessories kit that was just provide to me this week to test.
I really appreciate this review. I don't really have a necessity for kitchen knives but I do have a plethora of pocket knives. And I like to switch it up but not all my blades are sharp so I'm really considering getting this system. I like to use different edc knives everyday. Again thanks!
I thought about it, but that magnetic guide is far too chonky for most pocket knives. Most people are too lazy to make their own angle guides at a smaller size
Work Sharp Precision Adjust would probably be a better system for pocket knives, and cheaper ($120usd) than this Horl, and comes with 7 different grits of diamond stones, and strop. This Horl system doesn 't seem like it would be as fun on shorter length and shorter width pocket knife blades. Makes sense for large kitchen knives though. The Worx is decent, I like it better than my Apex Edge which was much more expensive. But I have a Tormek T-4 I really enjoy using, especially putting the initial edge on a knife I've made.
@@hazepheno925 thanks for your input. Yes pocket knives are near impossible on this style. I have some pocket knifes and agree. I have a new Precision Elite and Ken Onion coming so I look forward to using those and showing how they work on pocket knives. Do you see custom knives or just make your own for yourself?
@UkuleleJayBBQ Good review. Thanks! One thing to note... Diamond sharpeners are currently made with diamonds only on the surface of the metal substrate (as you say, "coated" at 0:10), not "the entire thickness of the disk" as you stated at 4:47. Diamond sharpeners are either made by bonding the diamond dust with adhesives to metal plate or using an electroplate process to embed the diamond dust into the newly formed metal surface. Eventually they wear out with either method.
Thanks! Yeah I did know that and should of clarified that. I have a new rolling sharpener company who reached out and I just finished their review. Wait til you see this new sharpener. It makes the Tumbler completely obsolete. I’ll be excited to see what people think. I have tested it and it’s fantastic. The new sharpener uses electroplating which I do cover in that review which will release this afternoon.
I just saw an ad on RUclips for this and immediately searches for a review, hoping it was good. Because the ergonomics on that are _sublime,_ what a spectacularly good and original concept, these are vanishingly rare. I want one.
Thanks. This is not a sponsored review. It works well unless a really chipped and horribly dull blade that’s in bad shape (most people don’t have those). See my recent video with a Cutco knife which I still got sharp enough and was a great test. I think they will come out with other grits eventually which will be great.
@@justinwebb2773 interesting. I have never used that device. Can you explain in detail the correct way to use it? I was going to pick one up to do more accurate testing. Appreciate your insight!
@@UkuleleJayBBQ The correct way to operate the sharpness tester is to place the knife in the holding block groove and slowly and carefully lay the sharp instrument onto the wire. Once its on there, slowly let the weight down and/or lightly push until the wire breaks. In some of tumblrUSA videos comparing his knife to another sharp instrument, he would too quickly push down and slice the wire, causing it to be an inaccurate reading, then turn around and do it correctly with his tumblr sharpened knife, skewing the results in his favor. Deceptive advertising. People have called him out in the comments but they choose to ignore it, or answer with an evasive corporate reply. Hope this helps
This is a cheap knock-off of the original german HORL sharpener. They have different models and grits to choose from and accessories to modify your sharpener. Don't get this fake one.
Thanks. Iam from Germany and wanted to import the tumbler. Now I know that I can buy a better one for the same price located in my freakin country lel 😂
@@haklbarry2 same thing here.. im from Slovenia tho. Im already waiting for my order to arrive :) its not as cheap but at least is legit and no need to import from overseas.
Thanks for the review, I think I'll buy it next paycheck. I love cooking, I need sharp knives. I used a whetstone before, but I don't care to learn. If the knife cuts a tomato, is good enough.
I’d use that money and get the Work Sharp MK2 power sharpener. More options for various grits. This one is only one grit. It definitely works but very limited for 100 bucks.
Thank you very much. A new company is coming to market with what looks like it will be much improved over this with multiple grits and will do very small knives with very ingenious sharpening holder device. Looks killer! Another rolling sharpener on the way!
@@BloPsy_Actual I didn’t specify whose original idea. Are you sure Tumblr doesn’t have a licensing agreement with Horl or that Tumblr isn’t a Horl subsidiary?
@@BloPsy_Actual I see Horl has the identical item for sale, (at twice the price.) Thank you for the information. I wish I had known about it before I bought the Tumbler. I shall try to follow the legal action by Horl. Thank you for the information.
Just an FYI - I received the Tumbler and was quite disappointed because both sides of the magnet holder would not hold any knife even reasonably well so that it wouldn't move during sharpening. Even without using the sharping roller even the smallest of knives barely held on, no matter what was its steel composition from high carbon to stainless. I work with magnets daily and I took Gauss meter readings of the Tumbler magnet block and it was quite weak. I sent back the Tumbler for a refund. I was also surprised that Tumbler didn't even comment on the weak magnet issue, or offer a replacement.
I just got mine today. It works as advertised but I can get a way sharper edge hand sharpening with my whet stones. I think I'll give the tumbler to my parents because their kitchen knives are always dull and they dont know how to hand sharpen.
Agree. It’s not going to be something I would recommend unless your knife is fairly sharp. They don’t show you in all the videos they may have worked on them for 30 minutes, hour? Who knows. It does a great job on knifes you want to keep sharp and are say 350 on the BESS tester and you can get it to 250 but getting it to double edge razor sharp has never been proven to me in any of their videos. A new sharpener (Tumbling like this and HORL) is about to hit the market and I think it might be a game changer😎 for these rolling sharpeners which is a good thing to force improvements which are definitely there to be made IMHO.
Agree. It’s not going to be something I would recommend unless your knife is fairly sharp. They don’t show you in all the videos they may have worked on them for 30 minutes, hour? Who knows. It does a great job on knifes you want to keep sharp and are say 350 on the BESS tester and you can get it to 250 but getting it to double edge razor sharp has never been proven to me in any of their videos. A new sharpener (Tumbling like this and HORL) is about to hit the market and I think it might be a game changer😎 for these rolling sharpeners which is a good thing to force improvements which are definitely there to be made IMHO.
Another company is sending me a rolling sharpener they have patent pending that may make the Tumbler obsolete (literally). Full review coming in 2 weeks! The race to the top is on!
Thanks Brandon, many of us had the issue. I stopped using mine a long time ago and now use the Hone honesharp.com which is one of the best rolling sharpeners on the market. Check out all my a Hone videos. All aluminum, steel and ball bearing. Will never lock up, many magnetic disc and does small knives really well. They have a pro accessories kit which has a great leather strop. UKULELEJAYBBQ gets you a free AngleMate which lets you sharpen any angle between 11 and 24 degrees. So you are not stuck with 15 or 20. Hope that helps.
Hi Brandon, unfortunately this is a huge problem you cannot fix. We all had that issue and I switched to the HONE honesharp.com which in my opinion is probably the best rolling sharpener out there. Check out all my HONE videos and 3 way shootout video among others. Let me know your thoughts after seeing them. If you get a Hone you can use UKULELEJAYBBQ to get a free AngleMate so you can do any angle from 11-24°. They have a fantastic accessory kits that has all the double sided grit magnetic discs, honing ceramic and a really nice leather strop (and comes with the AngleMate as well. It’s a complete kit and will eventually include the new 2000 grit being manufactured now.
Not sure of an exact one. I know a knifesmith and he uses powered wheels, powered belts and whetstones. Not sure what professional does or does not encompass.
Definitely agree you can sharpen everything. I am currently testing the Work Sharp Precision Elite with some various mods and just received the Tormek T1 which will be tested and reviewed in the coming weeks.
As someone that had cooked his entire life but never really sharpened my kitchen knives much, would you recommend that I learn to use a whetstone or try this tumbler system? I have a Mayabi that will inevitably need sharpened soon as well as other cheaper knives. Any feedback is appreciated!!!
Hi Kyle. A whetstone takes quite a bit of practice. The Tumbler is one grit only so it’s limited. For the price I think there are better sharpeners with a lot more grit options. I have other reviews and will be posting many more with products from Work Sharp. Take a look at my recent review on the Angle Knife sharpener. I will be reviewing the Elite by Work Sharp as well as the Kitchen Pro and Ken Onion sharpeners. I have used the Kitchen Pro for years and it’s powered with excellent blade angle guides for 15 and 20 degree knife blades. I really like their products for price and the ability to use various grit belts (including a leather strop belt or for the Elite, a leather strop plate. I am a chef so I am always sharpening and realized it’s a big need.
@UkuleleJayBBQ Awesome!! Thank you so much for the replay and leading me in a better path. It is very much appreciated as I would rather not damage my prized chefs knives. There are so many options that I sort of got overwhelmed when researching. This helps alot!!
@@kylekincaid1668 I know what you mean! I should be posting three more reviews in the Work Sharp series of sharpeners and I think you may like those a lot. One manual and two electric. They are the top of their sharpening line with all the bells and whistles. The most expensive is only 140 buck and has TONS of options.
Hi there, before and after on one my hand position may have been different on one but before and after watch the Hexclad is the same. There is no trickery here if that's what you are looking for. Watch my other videos, lots of them, held the same way. The BESS Tester is the real test (see my video on paper tests). That's not a "sharpness test" that's a apex feel test. The BESS tester shows you the real sharpness which I do on all my recent videos, this was a year ago. This should never be called a "sharpeness" test but has been adopted as such.
Hello Shaverklan Thanks a million, appreciate you watching my videos and hope you are subscribed with that notification bell ;-) 20° is used on Hexclad.
Only 1 grit. 2000ish. The other side is a groove smooth steel they say is to hone but if’s really to remove a burr and is flat and smooth so I would not use that side for true honing. The HONE sharpener comes with a 400 and 1000 grit and will have numerous other grit discs which easily put on and taken off. Have you seen my HONE videos?
I was an early buyer of this product. I have nothing but great things to say about it. I also own a Tormek T8 system with all the trimmings. I'm here to tell you, for as easy as it is to use, I use this before my Tormek. That's not to say the Tormek sucks, it's just a bigger 'to do.' This system will get your knives razor sharp. I find it a bit challenging to get flared/curved tips as sharp as the main length of the blade, but I would HIGHLY recommend this productd.
On smaller ones it is hard the magnets are not strong enough in my opinion to hold the blade edge up higher without it falling down and move if you apply pressure. Something with a fat blade like a Civivi Baby Banter maybe but I would definitely use my Work Sharp Precision Adjust Elite for my smaller pocket knives like 3 inch or smaller EDCs. While they may show that, you definitely won’t get the blade by the heel as the roller may hit the handle. Just depends but definitely designed more for kitchen knives a 3-4” pairing knife is probably the smallest. If it had stronger magnets as I have heard the HORL system has, then maybe.
This is a very old video and I have done many updates. For curved blades I use the HONE (I have many videos on that) and if super curved I use the Work Sharp Precision Adjust Elite.
Hi there, based on the knife manufacture specifications. Used to be Western kitchen knives were 20 and Eastern (Asia) were 15. I am finding many now in the U.S. have been releasing 15°. I email the manufacture and they let you know.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ Hey there, here in Germany I guess we mostly have common knives. But all of the knives from my Granny are old dulled up so I was thinking about maybe saving some money to buy Tumblr :)
@@SasukeGER If you want to save money you might want to wait for my WorkSharp knife sharpener series that will be coming out soon with some really great sharpeners. For the same price as Tumbler you can get an awesome power belt sharpener with all the grits you would need and it will sharpen in 1/10 the time.
@@SasukeGER If you are from germany, great, support your country, and buy horl instead. This idea was patented in your country, and one presented here is illegal copy.
I heard they sold out which isn’t surprising. As far as “knock off” I can only say the Tumbler appears to be externally very similar. The honing side is completely different between the two based on external appearance. I have no idea how either looks internally.
Tumbler has no removable disks. You want a HONE, skip the Tumbler and go for the high quality unit with removable disk system. Check out all my HONE videos. You’ll be happy.
I would not use this on anything now that the HONE sharpener has made this obsolete. The HONE will also have a follow up product which allows you to adjust many angles using the same base so that will be really something. Check out The Tumbler Or Hone Rolling Sharpener - Which One Is Better? ruclips.net/video/58-RSgMwf60/видео.html and BEST HIGH END ROLLING KNIFE SHARPENER REVIEW. IS THE HONE THE NEW KING ROLLING KNIFE SHARPENER? ruclips.net/video/fOE8BW1g4LAp/видео.html
Hey Paul wow long time!! No way! I still play and have 2 of Alan’s now along with the entire collection. Even play and post in some of my Instagram posts 🤘🏼😎
I just received mine this morning. There are several well thought out features however, after several hours of sharpening just two knives, one one them a high end Japanese single sided kitchen knife the diamond edge was worn to the point that it was only honing the edge….. not cutting it. Two, the single diamond end is not even close to coarse enough to effectively “ train/ cut” knives into the 15/20 angle. Trust me, it would take hours and hours to make the initial angle creations on just a few of your knives. Great idea, quite expensive for such a disappointing result. This company needs to offer 1-3 more aggressive gritted heads for all of us out here in the real world.
Thank you for the informative comment. I agree with you completely. There needs to be a process of desks not just one desk. I do fine for my knives that are sharp that have slowly gotten doll using the Tumblr does let me bring it back to a nice sharp edge, but for extremely dull knife, as you’ll see in one of my videos, it take me forever to get there and after a long time I wasn’t able to really get it super sharp. For all my main sharpening I use WorkSharp and will be releasing a series on those sharpeners which have numerous options and at lower prices. For the price of a Tumbler you can get the new Worksharp 2 belt sharpener with 6 different grits I believe of unlimited grit third party belts.
Please return it. It's a cheap copy with bloated price, and while man behind this "thinks" it's forever, it's not. It will wear out, and horl, the patent holder for these, is giving you replacements. Please don't support stealing.
Hello Mark Wakin Thanks a million, appreciate you watching my videos and hope you are subscribed with that notification bell ;-) yes I sharpen both sides of the knife.
Western knifes are beveled on both sides, your video looks like you've done one side and then taken off the burr did you do anything with the other side?
If you are in Europe: you can think about getting the original Design Inventor HORL, they are more expensive, but I think after import fees probably even cheaper than the Tumbler (which is now facing legal trouble, as they infringe the HORL patents)
The Pro has the geared system abd the Tumbler has now been made obsolete with the HONE which also now excels over HORL in multiple areas in my opinion. It finally brings what others have been lacking. You can see my full reviews and comparison on my channel.
Looks like you rounded off the tip of your knife, not here to criticize. Just wondering if I saw that correctly. Is that a user error, or is it because of the mechanism? Asking this because I am actually interested in the system.
Hi Luc and thanks for the comment. No the tip wasn't rounded off. It's actually nearly impossible to do that unless you are working the tip and sliding at an angle. All my knives are belt sharpened or whetstone sharpened. I can't see the rounding you are referring to, but the results have been great. The only caveat, and it's not bad is that this is 2000 grit so you need to start with a dull knife that is not damaged with chips or other issues because it would take forever using this grit. Most people do not have damaged knives. For regular kitchen knives (I did a pocket knife on it and it worked too) it works really well> If it's super dull it will take you longer to get the burr. The nice thing is all my knives are sharp now so once you feel it needs some sharpening, 2 minutes and your back to super sharp! Appreciate the comment! Hope you follow as I'll have more videos with different knidfe brands coming up soon.
So when you see this thing advertised it says "Preorder now"... are they just trying to acquire more money to fight the lawsuit from HORL?? I'd say buyer beware at this point. Especially if they already shipped some of these.
HI Pam, not a problem. I want everyone to ask whatever questions. Yes you flip over the knife and do both sides evenly. If you are looking for a rolling sharpener you want the HONE from honesharp.com and not this one which over the years has had issues and myself included and many of my followers now use the HONE or the WORKSHARP rolling sharpener.
There is a new company with a new rolling sharpener I am reviewing. It is far above and beyond this. It is out of Canada and maybe you’ll be able to order it. All the info will be posted in the review. Review should be posted by end of the week.
I was not paid nor asked to do a review. The down side is it’s not good on pocket knives and is only 1 grit as of now. It definitely will not repair a damaged and chipped knife blade either and is only 15 or 20° so really made for just kitchen knives and cleavers. Otherwise it does work great on knives that are dull from just normal use in my opinion. For the price I think there are other good options and I’ll be comparing those in the coming weeks once my BESS tester arrives.
@@arthurjosse5414 Make the wood block and put 2 magnets on it. That will hold the knife. Instead of a roller, use a block of wood. I would call it a slider. Use any size grit sand paper that you want. If it's not sliding that well, put down some talcum powder. Easy, and cheap.
@@davidfoxrn sandpaper doesn't create a burr at that angle, and wood isn't straight or hard enough to get a clean edge especially after you cut it. probably great to make butter knives tho.
Ceramic is an abrasive. If it doesn't remove metal, why is it turning black? There's different grits of ceramic and that rod is indeed abrasive, just a fine one.
My guess is that when you hone your knife using a ceramic rod you’re realigning the edge of a used dull knife. Dull knifes will be stained after being used for a while so that’s probably what gets left on the ceramic rod
Imo I really like this system been using it for little over a month and it's worked everytime. I also believe people who hate on this product also aren't using it properly, using it enough or they just like to talk non sense. Again this is my opinion so all you softies out there don't get too butt hurt by my opinion.
Copyed German Design and the System is ok for basic sharpening, but man what about the tipp? Or curved knives coonvex or concave. Not the best System but simple for a quick use on normal day use knifes
Yes tips are definitely not a strong point but the target market appeara to be non knife sharpening folks who just need to retouch up a knife. Definitely not for all knives and only one grit which is very fine.
There was a bit of misinformation in this video. An actual steel.... STEEL will not sharpen or take metal away from a knife. They are called honing steels. A ceramic steel will in fact sharpen and take metal away. Not hating on the video just want to clear that up for peeps that don't know the difference.
This device, same as the one it's copied from, claims to make sharpening knives easier, but in fact it doesn't. You need two hands to press the magnetic holder and the blade against each other att the same time you need to pay attention to apply even pressure and roll the sharpener along the full length of the edge. Not to mention that fixing the blade edge-up is pretty dangerous, and that the two-piece design takes up more storage space. A decent whetstone is much cheaper, way easier to handle and to store away.
All these device are quite safe actually. A weak magnet makes it less safe. A whetstones takes a lot of practice and many non-knife folks do not want that. These devices allow correct angle consistency without worry. It’s a great concept when executed correctly.
Hi There, no this was not sponsored. I did this on my own as I was really impressed. I did another one recently on sharpening a super dull Cutco knife as well. Thanks for watching, and appreciate the question.
I have a three-way comparison shoot coming out soon, which will answer your question. Make sure to subscribe and hit that notification bell so you don’t miss it.
Disclaimer: I sharpen knives and other tools professionally using the Tormek T-8 system exclusively with a total cost of over $2,500 for the extra diamond stones and most of the jigs. While the OP has taken time to post this video, I feel as though it's a plug for this tumbler system. I would never pay that exhorbitant amount for a limited system that has so many user variables in producing a quality edge. Having said that, NEVER hone a bevel until both have been ground....this is so incorrect information. And, listening to the sound of the knife passing through the paper, I'm not impressed with the sharpness quality. The sound should be almost inaudible on a truly sharp knife. The correct sequence of sharpening for a quality edge is as follows: 1. Grind one bevel till a burr is felt on the opposite bevel. 2. Grind the opposite bevel until a smaller burr is felt on the first side you ground. 3. Hone the bevel with the smaller burr first till you feel a tinier bevel on the opposite side. 4. Hone the tiny bevel till no burr is felt on either side. 5. Steps 3 and 4 may need to be repeated. 6. Strop both bevels. 7. Scope both bevels (if you have one) for looks only...i.e. that "polished" look. Not really neccessarry, it's just a visual thing. 8. Repeat step six if you really need to for looks. You can thank me later😁
I use the Tormek T1 primarily for my quick honing and sharpening needs and for all kitchen knives, cleavers thst’s all you need for $375.00 U.S. gets razor blade sharpness with only the 600grit Diamond conical wheel and honing wheel.
Gotta say, I’ve never heard anyone else use the fingernail test. I’ve been telling my cooks for years, run it over your thumbnail and if it makes the base of your nuts tingle, it’s sharp. Not sure what to elk the ladies🤣
Well, I have done it for years and for me it works! When I have nothing to test or paper or food, the good old fingernail grab will tell me at least I have a working blade ;-)
The paper test is pretty bad. Even a semi decently sharpened knife will succeed on the paper test. I just tested these tumbler rollers myself and the grit they have is something akin to 300-350. Without going to a higher grid you really miss out on sharpening those knifes. Yes they will succeed on the paper and nail test, but the moment you cut something like a tomato you will feel that the edge is lacking. Over all these tumblers are far too expensive for the fact they are angled block with magnets and a rather small diamond stone and a stainless steel plate connected via wood or a stainless cylinder, obviously not forgetting the bearings. If you got like a second tumbler in the set that had higher grids on them it would be okay, but for a small diamond stone plate in only a 300-350 grid that only really forms the basic geometry of the edge they are too expensive. For the price you could get a stone set that you also use too sharpen tools like chisels. You could get a lansky sharpener that clamps you knife/blade and allows you a wide degree of angles and is also fast in sharpening.
If it wasn't a knock off, it would be nice... Edit: For people wondering, Tumbler is 1:1 copy of the German Horl sharpener, which is patented worldwide.
@@BloPsy_Actual So anyone who makes a new version of something is now a thief? Good luck explaining that to every artist,scientist or anyone else that thinks of an original idea. Closed minded thinking like that is why we will be led to monopolies that get passed through law…
man they must have paid you a lot of money for this. Not a negative thing to say really, and your use of language was very biased toward being positive. Left the box in the background the whole time and everything.
Didn’t pay me a dime, and for what it is as a single grit roller it worked and was super easy to use. Funny how when someone is positive on something people like you think it’s all paid. I have news for you, some of us actually like things we try and use. SHOCKING!
@@neonsilver1936 thanks. Definitely better options for “sharpening” which I will showing in my upcoming Work Sharp sharpeners series. Also not paid 😎👊🏻
It's a really good tool for sharpening knives but it cost 100$ you could buy a worksheet for 30 bucks cheaper and it does the same thing just as easy it's a great tool but four hundred bucks I wouldn't buy it but if you want to buy it go ahead I'm just talkin for me
Agree the HORL at $500 is a premium and at that price you could buy some of the best belt sharpeners. I think the no power option, this style wins over a lot of sharpeners when it comes to a “learning curve” such as. Whetstones or even the angular sliding sharpeners you have to assemble.
Yes still very limited. I like the WorkSharp line of sharpeners much better and even the highest end power sharpener is cheaper than the HORL Pro. For that price I have multiple sharpeners that do much more. Still a nifty sharpener!
You may not but I am a personal chef and do events. My last one I had to slice 16 tri-tips by hand and I needed to hone my knife so this with the 3000 Ceramic would be awesome. Had a ceramic honing rod but this provides the perfect honing angle. Doing a large event in Oct and I will have this with me for sure. I do not like honing steel rods.
This man deserves to be more popular
Thank you so much!
the "creator" of this device stole the product from horl. A german company that has a patent.
This is a clear patent breach, and that's why it's sold only in U.S.
Don't buy this.
It's a scam and won't deliver.
They take your money and rip you off.
I know this ain't some high population field of audience but this is a great review. I really appreciate how professional you made it versus others and how simple and clean your explanations are. While it may not be the most rewarding thing, I greatly appreciate your review.
Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I just present things I work with or topics I think would be interesting to the cooking and bbq community. Hope you enjoy my other past and upcoming videos. Appreciate you watching. J
@@UkuleleJayBBQ Please make sure to note the original inventor, horl.
Man behind this knock-off breached the patent and is hiding behind U.S. paperology.
No doubt with your comments. He gave a GREAT review and hit the things I was thinking about. I also would like to see some different grits. Spot on review for what I was looking for. Thank you.
As a whetstone lover, I can't deny this sytem looks promising since the frist time I saw it
Looks pretty safe and easy to operate, at least for my wife. Unlike whetstone that requires alot of practice and experience "just for" sharpen knives.
Great review! Thank you, sir
Thanks. Yes, my Worksharp belt sharpener & whetstone are my main go to but this makes quick sharpening so easy for anyone who does not want to spend the time learning a whetstone.
To sharpen with this correctly also requires practise since you need to apply constant pressure while rolling that thing along the entire length of the edge, which is not so easy with two moving parts. A flat whetstone is so much easier to work with.
It's just a sander that uses the motion of the direction too sharpen. The whetstones and leather is better and cheaper than this gimmick.
The German company HORL that invented this system (and that has taken legal action) has a bunch of useful accessories and the ability to swap out the discs for finer and coarser grinding. It's more money, but it might be a better long term investment, particularly if these guys lose their legal battle and go tits up.
worst part is ive seen a plastic version of a rolling sharpener in a store.
I have the HORL2 and it works like a charm.
No need for the geared version. Use the money for additional discs.
oof, I just looked up that HORL company's product and the Tumblr product looks like a direct copy. I will definitely be going with the original now. Thanks for the comment.
The fact that your comment isnt liked by the channel speaks plenty about this 'review', plenty of liked comments by the channel yet one mentioning shady stuff done by the TUMBLER isnt. Isnt doing sponsorships without disclosing it illegal?
@@keldon1137 what
How are you not more popular? I was looking for reviews on this thing and got exaclty was I was looking for. Very professional, honest review with insight into using it too. You definitely deserve more attention from this platform
Thank you so much. I have many more reviews coming. I really appreciate that. I am just a small fish in a big ocean. Appreciate every new follower!
I very mutch like the calm process of this video compared to the fast paced reviews, keep it up.
Thank you so much! More on the way. Hope you subscribed and thanks for taking the time to watch 🙏🏼
The best test I use is to see how well the knife slices a slightly soft tomato and whether it can cut wafer thin.
That is a very good practical test. Soft tomatoes are impossible to slice with a knife that isn’t razor sharp.
Thanks for the simple yet effective review, and reaching out to the manufacturer for additional details.
Keep it up! Just subscribed!
Thanks a million. I have many more videos coming and the next one will be this weekend on the HONE diamond disc rolling sharpener and the new accessories kit that was just provide to me this week to test.
I really appreciate this review. I don't really have a necessity for kitchen knives but I do have a plethora of pocket knives. And I like to switch it up but not all my blades are sharp so I'm really considering getting this system. I like to use different edc knives everyday.
Again thanks!
My pleasure. I have not done my pocket knives yet, but they are next!
Get the original better quality HORL sharpener. This is a cheap knock-off
I thought about it, but that magnetic guide is far too chonky for most pocket knives. Most people are too lazy to make their own angle guides at a smaller size
Work Sharp Precision Adjust would probably be a better system for pocket knives, and cheaper ($120usd) than this Horl, and comes with 7 different grits of diamond stones, and strop. This Horl system doesn 't seem like it would be as fun on shorter length and shorter width pocket knife blades. Makes sense for large kitchen knives though.
The Worx is decent, I like it better than my Apex Edge which was much more expensive. But I have a Tormek T-4 I really enjoy using, especially putting the initial edge on a knife I've made.
@@hazepheno925 thanks for your input. Yes pocket knives are near impossible on this style. I have some pocket knifes and agree. I have a new Precision Elite and Ken Onion coming so I look forward to using those and showing how they work on pocket knives. Do you see custom knives or just make your own for yourself?
@UkuleleJayBBQ Good review. Thanks! One thing to note... Diamond sharpeners are currently made with diamonds only on the surface of the metal substrate (as you say, "coated" at 0:10), not "the entire thickness of the disk" as you stated at 4:47. Diamond sharpeners are either made by bonding the diamond dust with adhesives to metal plate or using an electroplate process to embed the diamond dust into the newly formed metal surface. Eventually they wear out with either method.
Thanks! Yeah I did know that and should of clarified that. I have a new rolling sharpener company who reached out and I just finished their review. Wait til you see this new sharpener. It makes the Tumbler completely obsolete. I’ll be excited to see what people think. I have tested it and it’s fantastic. The new sharpener uses electroplating which I do cover in that review which will release this afternoon.
Thank you Jay! Appreciate the quick to the point and short review
My pleasure John.
I just saw an ad on RUclips for this and immediately searches for a review, hoping it was good.
Because the ergonomics on that are _sublime,_ what a spectacularly good and original concept, these are vanishingly rare.
I want one.
It's a fun little sharpener but isn't for all knives and is limited with only one grit they say is equal to 2000 grit. It does work though for sure.
The original one is good, this one supports stealing, don't recommend it.
check out Horl.
This channel deserves more subscribers and views. You are beyond professional in your review.
Thank you so much. I wish everyone would think that and follow!😎 Appreciate you!
Was on the fence about this for awhile but love your content and trust your judgement. Just purchased!
Thanks. This is not a sponsored review. It works well unless a really chipped and horribly dull blade that’s in bad shape (most people don’t have those). See my recent video with a Cutco knife which I still got sharp enough and was a great test. I think they will come out with other grits eventually which will be great.
Too bad you purchased a cheap quality knock-off of the original german HORL sharpener
The seller also engages in misleading advertisement, he uses his sharpness tester incorrectly to skew the results in hist favor
@@justinwebb2773 interesting. I have never used that device. Can you explain in detail the correct way to use it? I was going to pick one up to do more accurate testing. Appreciate your insight!
@@UkuleleJayBBQ The correct way to operate the sharpness tester is to place the knife in the holding block groove and slowly and carefully lay the sharp instrument onto the wire. Once its on there, slowly let the weight down and/or lightly push until the wire breaks. In some of tumblrUSA videos comparing his knife to another sharp instrument, he would too quickly push down and slice the wire, causing it to be an inaccurate reading, then turn around and do it correctly with his tumblr sharpened knife, skewing the results in his favor. Deceptive advertising. People have called him out in the comments but they choose to ignore it, or answer with an evasive corporate reply. Hope this helps
Solid video, great channel! Keep up the good work, my man!
Thank you so much Shawn! I really appreciate that!
This is a cheap knock-off of the original german HORL sharpener. They have different models and grits to choose from and accessories to modify your sharpener. Don't get this fake one.
I like what they have but Damn they are expensive G
Thanks. Iam from Germany and wanted to import the tumbler. Now I know that I can buy a better one for the same price located in my freakin country lel 😂
@@haklbarry2 same thing here.. im from Slovenia tho. Im already waiting for my order to arrive :) its not as cheap but at least is legit and no need to import from overseas.
@@Parkii14 yea considering the import fees its not even more expensive. And if I need some else I don't have to import. Hf with yours
Exactly what I came here to say
Awesome video and review! Thank you!
@@HarryManback46and2 thank you, greatly appreciate that!
Thanks for the review, I think I'll buy it next paycheck.
I love cooking, I need sharp knives. I used a whetstone before, but I don't care to learn. If the knife cuts a tomato, is good enough.
I’d use that money and get the Work Sharp MK2 power sharpener. More options for various grits. This one is only one grit. It definitely works but very limited for 100 bucks.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ thanks, I'll look into it
Thank you, just saw this knife and was curious the effectiveness. Great video sir
Thank you very much. A new company is coming to market with what looks like it will be much improved over this with multiple grits and will do very small knives with very ingenious sharpening holder device. Looks killer! Another rolling sharpener on the way!
@UkuleleJayBBQ Awesome, do you by chance know the name so I could look at it?
@@matthewengland6428 hi there. Can’t disclose it yet. It should be here July 7-11 and I will be using it and then doing the review for the unveiling.
@UkuleleJayBBQ awesome. I'm subbed and excited to watch
@@matthewengland6428 fantastic. It's going to be an extensive review with lots of testing and comparisons.
I own a Tumbler and I agree with Ukulele Bill's review. A truly original idea.
An "original" idea that was stolen from German company Horl that actually holds the patent for this product
@@BloPsy_Actual I didn’t specify whose original idea. Are you sure Tumblr doesn’t have a licensing agreement with Horl or that Tumblr isn’t a Horl subsidiary?
@@ralphaverill2001 Horl is in a legal action against tumbler, so no.
@@BloPsy_Actual I see Horl has the identical item for sale, (at twice the price.) Thank you for the information. I wish I had known about it before I bought the Tumbler. I shall try to follow the legal action by Horl.
Thank you for the information.
@@ralphaverill2001 They have even cheaper models, but they like to promote the most expensive as first
Just an FYI - I received the Tumbler and was quite disappointed because both sides of the magnet holder would not hold any knife even reasonably well so that it wouldn't move during sharpening. Even without using the sharping roller even the smallest of knives barely held on, no matter what was its steel composition from high carbon to stainless. I work with magnets daily and I took Gauss meter readings of the Tumbler magnet block and it was quite weak. I sent back the Tumbler for a refund. I was also surprised that Tumbler didn't even comment on the weak magnet issue, or offer a replacement.
Yes, that is a huge issue. See my recent Shoot out video? ruclips.net/video/lPp6SBuoA4Q/видео.htmlsi=saOeq6P5c8A0TQSO
Awesome review! Thanks!
Thanks Reuben! Much appreciated.
Great video, thank you.
@@2017HondaCivicEX-b2vm thank you for watching!
I just got mine today. It works as advertised but I can get a way sharper edge hand sharpening with my whet stones. I think I'll give the tumbler to my parents because their kitchen knives are always dull and they dont know how to hand sharpen.
Agree. It’s not going to be something I would recommend unless your knife is fairly sharp. They don’t show you in all the videos they may have worked on them for 30 minutes, hour? Who knows. It does a great job on knifes you want to keep sharp and are say 350 on the BESS tester and you can get it to 250 but getting it to double edge razor sharp has never been proven to me in any of their videos. A new sharpener (Tumbling like this and HORL) is about to hit the market and I think it might be a game changer😎 for these rolling sharpeners which is a good thing to force improvements which are definitely there to be made IMHO.
Agree. It’s not going to be something I would recommend unless your knife is fairly sharp. They don’t show you in all the videos they may have worked on them for 30 minutes, hour? Who knows. It does a great job on knifes you want to keep sharp and are say 350 on the BESS tester and you can get it to 250 but getting it to double edge razor sharp has never been proven to me in any of their videos. A new sharpener (Tumbling like this and HORL) is about to hit the market and I think it might be a game changer😎 for these rolling sharpeners which is a good thing to force improvements which are definitely there to be made IMHO.
hmmm, i would love to see a 25 and 30 degree guide too, got some hard use outdoor knives
I was thinking one could make their own blocks with a mitre saw and embed a powerful magnet.
Cool sharpening system.
Honest review! 👍
Yes, it's definitely cool and super simple.
03:34 When you cut the paper, you can actually hear it's not sharp enough. It sounds coarse, where it should have a finer sound.
Maybe a bit of both. I see it goes for $98 and that seems steep for what it is. But it does seem to work.
Another company is sending me a rolling sharpener they have patent pending that may make the Tumbler obsolete (literally). Full review coming in 2 weeks! The race to the top is on!
Mine stopped rolling. It just drags back-and-forth now. Any thoughts on this? Thanks
Nice review by the way
Thanks Brandon, many of us had the issue. I stopped using mine a long time ago and now use the Hone honesharp.com which is one of the best rolling sharpeners on the market. Check out all my a Hone videos. All aluminum, steel and ball bearing. Will never lock up, many magnetic disc and does small knives really well. They have a pro accessories kit which has a great leather strop. UKULELEJAYBBQ gets you a free AngleMate which lets you sharpen any angle between 11 and 24 degrees. So you are not stuck with 15 or 20. Hope that helps.
Hi Brandon, unfortunately this is a huge problem you cannot fix. We all had that issue and I switched to the HONE honesharp.com which in my opinion is probably the best rolling sharpener out there. Check out all my HONE videos and 3 way shootout video among others. Let me know your thoughts after seeing them. If you get a Hone you can use UKULELEJAYBBQ to get a free AngleMate so you can do any angle from 11-24°. They have a fantastic accessory kits that has all the double sided grit magnetic discs, honing ceramic and a really nice leather strop (and comes with the AngleMate as well. It’s a complete kit and will eventually include the new 2000 grit being manufactured now.
Proceeds to rip the paper... "Super clean cut!"
Would this work for a thin 8” fillet knife? Looks like the magnetic holder would be taller then the fillet knife.
Probably too small if below the magnets
What’s consider a professional sharpener? Thanks for the video. I just ordered this. Let’s see how I go with my knives
Not sure of an exact one. I know a knifesmith and he uses powered wheels, powered belts and whetstones. Not sure what professional does or does not encompass.
Love my whetstones, i can sharpen everything from a small pocket knife to my katanas
Definitely agree you can sharpen everything. I am currently testing the Work Sharp Precision Elite with some various mods and just received the Tormek T1 which will be tested and reviewed in the coming weeks.
Great review, I have been eyeing that one
Thank you very much, appreciate that!
As someone that had cooked his entire life but never really sharpened my kitchen knives much, would you recommend that I learn to use a whetstone or try this tumbler system? I have a Mayabi that will inevitably need sharpened soon as well as other cheaper knives. Any feedback is appreciated!!!
Hi Kyle. A whetstone takes quite a bit of practice. The Tumbler is one grit only so it’s limited. For the price I think there are better sharpeners with a lot more grit options. I have other reviews and will be posting many more with products from Work Sharp. Take a look at my recent review on the Angle Knife sharpener. I will be reviewing the Elite by Work Sharp as well as the Kitchen Pro and Ken Onion sharpeners. I have used the Kitchen Pro for years and it’s powered with excellent blade angle guides for 15 and 20 degree knife blades. I really like their products for price and the ability to use various grit belts (including a leather strop belt or for the Elite, a leather strop plate. I am a chef so I am always sharpening and realized it’s a big need.
@UkuleleJayBBQ Awesome!! Thank you so much for the replay and leading me in a better path. It is very much appreciated as I would rather not damage my prized chefs knives. There are so many options that I sort of got overwhelmed when researching. This helps alot!!
@@kylekincaid1668 I know what you mean! I should be posting three more reviews in the Work Sharp series of sharpeners and I think you may like those a lot. One manual and two electric. They are the top of their sharpening line with all the bells and whistles. The most expensive is only 140 buck and has TONS of options.
@@kylekincaid1668 that is my next review I am working on. It is an amazing sharpening system.
check out horl instead. I personally don't like products from producent that lies and steals.
Why did you hold the paper differently between the dull and sharpened knives? The way you held “after” makes a big difference
Hi there, before and after on one my hand position may have been different on one but before and after watch the Hexclad is the same. There is no trickery here if that's what you are looking for. Watch my other videos, lots of them, held the same way. The BESS Tester is the real test (see my video on paper tests). That's not a "sharpness test" that's a apex feel test. The BESS tester shows you the real sharpness which I do on all my recent videos, this was a year ago. This should never be called a "sharpeness" test but has been adopted as such.
They are good for wide knives but on narrow ones the magnet isn’t strong enough to keep the knife up
Correct check out the Hone or Work Sharp rolling sharpeners. Much better and interchangeable discs.
+@toshtoshboy yes and that’s where the HONE base excels over all other bases especially when it comes to small knives.
That was a nice review!!
Thank you very much. I have a lot more knife sharpeners reviews posting. Hope you find something that looks good.
Which angle did you do the Hexclad at? 15°?
Hello Shaverklan Thanks a million, appreciate you watching my videos and hope you are subscribed with that notification bell ;-) 20° is used on Hexclad.
What is the grit on both sides of the tumbler?
Only 1 grit. 2000ish. The other side is a groove smooth steel they say is to hone but if’s really to remove a burr and is flat and smooth so I would not use that side for true honing. The HONE sharpener comes with a 400 and 1000 grit and will have numerous other grit discs which easily put on and taken off. Have you seen my HONE videos?
How does the magnet hold a stainless blade?
Knife blades contain other elements that are magnetic.
I was an early buyer of this product. I have nothing but great things to say about it. I also own a Tormek T8 system with all the trimmings. I'm here to tell you, for as easy as it is to use, I use this before my Tormek. That's not to say the Tormek sucks, it's just a bigger 'to do.' This system will get your knives razor sharp. I find it a bit challenging to get flared/curved tips as sharp as the main length of the blade, but I would HIGHLY recommend this productd.
What a fantastic review dude
Thanks, I really appreciate that!
Would it work with pocket knives?
On smaller ones it is hard the magnets are not strong enough in my opinion to hold the blade edge up higher without it falling down and move if you apply pressure. Something with a fat blade like a Civivi Baby Banter maybe but I would definitely use my Work Sharp Precision Adjust Elite for my smaller pocket knives like 3 inch or smaller EDCs. While they may show that, you definitely won’t get the blade by the heel as the roller may hit the handle. Just depends but definitely designed more for kitchen knives a 3-4” pairing knife is probably the smallest. If it had stronger magnets as I have heard the HORL system has, then maybe.
How do you sharpen the heel of the utility knife with this thing?
It works fine. I just roll it back and forth. If you have a small one it is sometimes a challenge but usually the roller surface gets it just fine.
How does it on curved blades
This is a very old video and I have done many updates. For curved blades I use the HONE (I have many videos on that) and if super curved I use the Work Sharp Precision Adjust Elite.
When do you use 15° and when do you use the 20° Side ?
Hi there, based on the knife manufacture specifications. Used to be Western kitchen knives were 20 and Eastern (Asia) were 15. I am finding many now in the U.S. have been releasing 15°. I email the manufacture and they let you know.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ Hey there, here in Germany I guess we mostly have common knives. But all of the knives from my Granny are old dulled up so I was thinking about maybe saving some money to buy Tumblr :)
@@SasukeGER If you want to save money you might want to wait for my WorkSharp knife sharpener series that will be coming out soon with some really great sharpeners. For the same price as Tumbler you can get an awesome power belt sharpener with all the grits you would need and it will sharpen in 1/10 the time.
@@SasukeGER If you are from germany, great, support your country, and buy horl instead.
This idea was patented in your country, and one presented here is illegal copy.
So, is it a HORL 2 knockoff?? Tumbler site only taking pre orders and not shipping until mid april
I heard they sold out which isn’t surprising. As far as “knock off” I can only say the Tumbler appears to be externally very similar. The honing side is completely different between the two based on external appearance. I have no idea how either looks internally.
This is basically a remake of the Germany made HORL sharpener. The HORL is more expensive, yes, but has superior magnet strength and sharpening discs.
"Strop," not "strope."
Great review!
Thank you very much!
Thanks for the review, I’ve been seeing this a lot
My pleasure!
where do you buy a replacement Disks?????????
Tumbler has no removable disks. You want a HONE, skip the Tumbler and go for the high quality unit with removable disk system. Check out all my HONE videos. You’ll be happy.
Thank you
You're welcome
Can I use this on hunting knives too or would it fuck them up?
I would not use this on anything now that the HONE sharpener has made this obsolete. The HONE will also have a follow up product which allows you to adjust many angles using the same base so that will be really something.
Check out The Tumbler Or Hone Rolling Sharpener - Which One Is Better?
ruclips.net/video/58-RSgMwf60/видео.html
and
BEST HIGH END ROLLING KNIFE SHARPENER REVIEW. IS THE HONE THE NEW KING ROLLING KNIFE SHARPENER?
ruclips.net/video/fOE8BW1g4LAp/видео.html
Are these in Amazon? can't find them
I have not seem them there only on the Tumbler website.
Jay - longtime no chat! Did you give up on the uke? I got a great uke from Alan in Australia because of you. Thanks again! Paul in seattle
Hey Paul wow long time!! No way! I still play and have 2 of Alan’s now along with the entire collection. Even play and post in some of my Instagram posts 🤘🏼😎
Does it really work? I have victorinox knife and I need your honest opinion about the product thank you😄
Yes it absolutely works. Definitely get the leather strop as that does a good job at the end.
I just received mine this morning. There are several well thought out features however, after several hours of sharpening just two knives, one one them a high end Japanese single sided kitchen knife the diamond edge was worn to the point that it was only honing the edge….. not cutting it.
Two, the single diamond end is not even close to coarse enough to effectively “ train/ cut” knives into the 15/20 angle. Trust me, it would take hours and hours to make the initial angle creations on just a few of your knives.
Great idea, quite expensive for such a disappointing result.
This company needs to offer 1-3 more aggressive gritted heads for all of us out here in the real world.
Thank you for the informative comment. I agree with you completely. There needs to be a process of desks not just one desk. I do fine for my knives that are sharp that have slowly gotten doll using the Tumblr does let me bring it back to a nice sharp edge, but for extremely dull knife, as you’ll see in one of my videos, it take me forever to get there and after a long time I wasn’t able to really get it super sharp. For all my main sharpening I use WorkSharp and will be releasing a series on those sharpeners which have numerous options and at lower prices. For the price of a Tumbler you can get the new Worksharp 2 belt sharpener with 6 different grits I believe of unlimited grit third party belts.
Please return it.
It's a cheap copy with bloated price, and while man behind this "thinks" it's forever, it's not.
It will wear out, and horl, the patent holder for these, is giving you replacements.
Please don't support stealing.
Can you sharpen a small pocket knife please
For small pocket knives I suggest this: ruclips.net/video/ZkgXyNMCG9A/видео.html
do you sharpen both sides of the knife?
Yes
Hello Mark Wakin Thanks a million, appreciate you watching my videos and hope you are subscribed with that notification bell ;-) yes I sharpen both sides of the knife.
Ver6 nice review, i subscribed
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that.
Western knifes are beveled on both sides, your video looks like you've done one side and then taken off the burr did you do anything with the other side?
Yes both sides were actually done.
Too bad they don't sell overseas. I ordered a similar one but it only has a 15° holder which is ok since i wanted to have that kind of bevel anyway.
If you are in Europe: you can think about getting the original Design Inventor HORL, they are more expensive, but I think after import fees probably even cheaper than the Tumbler (which is now facing legal trouble, as they infringe the HORL patents)
@@hg-sf7yx and horl is made in germany not china
Not the same as the German HORL Pro, which has the internal mechanical tumbler mechanism.
The Pro has the geared system abd the Tumbler has now been made obsolete with the HONE which also now excels over HORL in multiple areas in my opinion. It finally brings what others have been lacking. You can see my full reviews and comparison on my channel.
Looks like you rounded off the tip of your knife, not here to criticize. Just wondering if I saw that correctly. Is that a user error, or is it because of the mechanism? Asking this because I am actually interested in the system.
Hi Luc and thanks for the comment. No the tip wasn't rounded off. It's actually nearly impossible to do that unless you are working the tip and sliding at an angle. All my knives are belt sharpened or whetstone sharpened. I can't see the rounding you are referring to, but the results have been great. The only caveat, and it's not bad is that this is 2000 grit so you need to start with a dull knife that is not damaged with chips or other issues because it would take forever using this grit. Most people do not have damaged knives. For regular kitchen knives (I did a pocket knife on it and it worked too) it works really well> If it's super dull it will take you longer to get the burr. The nice thing is all my knives are sharp now so once you feel it needs some sharpening, 2 minutes and your back to super sharp! Appreciate the comment! Hope you follow as I'll have more videos with different knidfe brands coming up soon.
So when you see this thing advertised it says "Preorder now"... are they just trying to acquire more money to fight the lawsuit from HORL?? I'd say buyer beware at this point. Especially if they already shipped some of these.
I have no idea. I am not affiliated with Tumbler, just do reviews.
Horl is better ! stronger magnet ...for exemple
Rookie question: do I have to sharpen both sides of the knife?
HI Pam, not a problem. I want everyone to ask whatever questions. Yes you flip over the knife and do both sides evenly. If you are looking for a rolling sharpener you want the HONE from honesharp.com and not this one which over the years has had issues and myself included and many of my followers now use the HONE or the WORKSHARP rolling sharpener.
I cant order this in Australia
There is a new company with a new rolling sharpener I am reviewing. It is far above and beyond this. It is out of Canada and maybe you’ll be able to order it. All the info will be posted in the review. Review should be posted by end of the week.
I'm very skeptical of this cause all the reviews I've seen look like there paid to say it works great. Like there is zero down side for this product.
I was not paid nor asked to do a review. The down side is it’s not good on pocket knives and is only 1 grit as of now. It definitely will not repair a damaged and chipped knife blade either and is only 15 or 20° so really made for just kitchen knives and cleavers. Otherwise it does work great on knives that are dull from just normal use in my opinion. For the price I think there are other good options and I’ll be comparing those in the coming weeks once my BESS tester arrives.
I've bought the HORL-2 and am very impressed.
@@robertjeantet6444 did you get the removable discs?
@@UkuleleJayBBQ no, just the Horl-2 kit. Seems quite sufficient for me, I'm not a knife enthusiast. I just like my knives to cut well in the kitchen.
@@robertjeantet6444 got it, tnx! I am sure it works well.
You shuts sharpen one side?
Hi Stone, no, you flip the knife around and do both sides.
Do you only sharpen 1 side of the blade?
Hi Jamie, No, you flip the blade around and do both sides. So the tip would be facing opposite on the same side of the wood block holder.
Whare I can find it?
I think they have it on their website for $98.00 US last I looked..
@@UkuleleJayBBQ thank you for the information.
@@Mohammad_Bassam my pleasure.
The funny thing is that you can make your own for $5. And it can use any grit size or angle you want.
Please explain i’m interested
@@arthurjosse5414 Make the wood block and put 2 magnets on it. That will hold the knife. Instead of a roller, use a block of wood. I would call it a slider. Use any size grit sand paper that you want. If it's not sliding that well, put down some talcum powder. Easy, and cheap.
@@davidfoxrn sandpaper doesn't create a burr at that angle, and wood isn't straight or hard enough to get a clean edge especially after you cut it. probably great to make butter knives tho.
@@Max-ju6in sandpaper definitely can put a burr on steel and wood can be flat and straight enough 😂
@@Max-ju6in you could clamp stones on that "slider" as well. Point he was trying to make, while it is a great design, the roller is a100 bucks
Ceramic is an abrasive. If it doesn't remove metal, why is it turning black? There's different grits of ceramic and that rod is indeed abrasive, just a fine one.
My guess is that when you hone your knife using a ceramic rod you’re realigning the edge of a used dull knife. Dull knifes will be stained after being used for a while so that’s probably what gets left on the ceramic rod
Imo I really like this system been using it for little over a month and it's worked everytime. I also believe people who hate on this product also aren't using it properly, using it enough or they just like to talk non sense. Again this is my opinion so all you softies out there don't get too butt hurt by my opinion.
be mindful of where the metal you're grinding off goes when next to food prep areas.
Thanks. I always thoroughly clean the entire area when done. Definitely agree, good point.
People of German decent poppin’ off in the comments. 😂
Scam made by a guy that already scammed a lot of people on Kickstarter (his backpack etc). I hope HORL company will nail his ass.
Really? What backpack. I don’t use kickstarter but know what it is. Details? Tnx
I'll stick with my KME....
Good choice
1:17 already seeing the black lines on the cutting board doesn't look too good for tumbler
@@elcarlosjosegonzalesrodrig2837 👍🏼
Copyed German Design and the System is ok for basic sharpening, but man what about the tipp? Or curved knives coonvex or concave. Not the best System but simple for a quick use on normal day use knifes
Yes tips are definitely not a strong point but the target market appeara to be non knife sharpening folks who just need to retouch up a knife. Definitely not for all knives and only one grit which is very fine.
There was a bit of misinformation in this video. An actual steel.... STEEL will not sharpen or take metal away from a knife. They are called honing steels. A ceramic steel will in fact sharpen and take metal away. Not hating on the video just want to clear that up for peeps that don't know the difference.
Thank you for the clarification! Much appreciated.
This device, same as the one it's copied from, claims to make sharpening knives easier, but in fact it doesn't. You need two hands to press the magnetic holder and the blade against each other att the same time you need to pay attention to apply even pressure and roll the sharpener along the full length of the edge. Not to mention that fixing the blade edge-up is pretty dangerous, and that the two-piece design takes up more storage space. A decent whetstone is much cheaper, way easier to handle and to store away.
All these device are quite safe actually. A weak magnet makes it less safe. A whetstones takes a lot of practice and many non-knife folks do not want that. These devices allow correct angle consistency without worry. It’s a great concept when executed correctly.
Afternoon, is this a sponsored review?
Hi There, no this was not sponsored. I did this on my own as I was really impressed. I did another one recently on sharpening a super dull Cutco knife as well. Thanks for watching, and appreciate the question.
In my opinion, despite the detailed review, it is missing a simple conclusion: buy or not? Buy if xyz or / and not buy if bla.
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Disclaimer: I sharpen knives and other tools professionally using the Tormek T-8 system exclusively with a total cost of over $2,500 for the extra diamond stones and most of the jigs.
While the OP has taken time to post this video, I feel as though it's a plug for this tumbler system. I would never pay that exhorbitant amount for a limited system that has so many user variables in producing a quality edge.
Having said that, NEVER hone a bevel until both have been ground....this is so incorrect information.
And, listening to the sound of the knife passing through the paper, I'm not impressed with the sharpness quality. The sound should be almost inaudible on a truly sharp knife.
The correct sequence of sharpening for a quality edge is as follows:
1. Grind one bevel till a burr is felt on the opposite bevel.
2. Grind the opposite bevel until a smaller burr is felt on the first side you ground.
3. Hone the bevel with the smaller burr first till you feel a tinier bevel on the opposite side.
4. Hone the tiny bevel till no burr is felt on either side.
5. Steps 3 and 4 may need to be repeated.
6. Strop both bevels.
7. Scope both bevels (if you have one) for looks only...i.e. that "polished" look. Not really neccessarry, it's just a visual thing.
8. Repeat step six if you really need to for looks.
You can thank me later😁
I use the Tormek T1 primarily for my quick honing and sharpening needs and for all kitchen knives, cleavers thst’s all you need for $375.00 U.S. gets razor blade sharpness with only the 600grit Diamond conical wheel and honing wheel.
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Does anyone know where this is made?
Germany
@CaTp0oP_93 This is made in China, the original Horl brand is made in Germany
@@lsumaniac2485 yep your right, I thought this was the HORL2. why this guy is repping knockoffs is now the question
@@catp0op_937 Much agreed, I know I'm not giving them my money
I don’t rep them. It’s a review. Now your question has an answer.
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Slight problem. You're only sharpening on one side. You're going to turn all of your knives into single bevel.
Both sides are sharpened. The knife is flipped around on the same side so you are in fact sharpening both sides.
Gotta say, I’ve never heard anyone else use the fingernail test. I’ve been telling my cooks for years, run it over your thumbnail and if it makes the base of your nuts tingle, it’s sharp. Not sure what to elk the ladies🤣
Well, I have done it for years and for me it works! When I have nothing to test or paper or food, the good old fingernail grab will tell me at least I have a working blade ;-)
For the ladies, if your lip quivers then it's sharp!
+Tom Rummel hilarious! Well I never had my nuts tingle doing that but I did have my butt pucker a few times when I was learning! 😂🙌🏼👊🏼
The paper test is pretty bad.
Even a semi decently sharpened knife will succeed on the paper test.
I just tested these tumbler rollers myself and the grit they have is something akin to 300-350.
Without going to a higher grid you really miss out on sharpening those knifes.
Yes they will succeed on the paper and nail test, but the moment you cut something like a tomato you will feel that the edge is lacking.
Over all these tumblers are far too expensive for the fact they are angled block with magnets and a rather small diamond stone and a stainless steel plate connected via wood or a stainless cylinder, obviously not forgetting the bearings.
If you got like a second tumbler in the set that had higher grids on them it would be okay, but for a small diamond stone plate in only a 300-350 grid that only really forms the basic geometry of the edge they are too expensive.
For the price you could get a stone set that you also use too sharpen tools like chisels.
You could get a lansky sharpener that clamps you knife/blade and allows you a wide degree of angles and is also fast in sharpening.
Tumbler has been surpassed by HONE (honesharp.com) by leaps and bounds. See my reviews and tests using a BESS digital tester.
So, you only sharpen on 1 side?
No both sides
If it wasn't a knock off, it would be nice...
Edit: For people wondering, Tumbler is 1:1 copy of the German Horl sharpener, which is patented worldwide.
What is it a knock off of?
@@fruitcop9488 The German Horl sharpener. Horl is actually in legal action against Tumbler.
This nice knockoff works beautifully.
@@billythomas5616 Sure, but I will rather spend money on the original product. I do not like thieves.
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So anyone who makes a new version of something is now a thief? Good luck explaining that to every artist,scientist or anyone else that thinks of an original idea.
Closed minded thinking like that is why we will be led to monopolies that get passed through law…
man they must have paid you a lot of money for this. Not a negative thing to say really, and your use of language was very biased toward being positive. Left the box in the background the whole time and everything.
Didn’t pay me a dime, and for what it is as a single grit roller it worked and was super easy to use. Funny how when someone is positive on something people like you think it’s all paid. I have news for you, some of us actually like things we try and use. SHOCKING!
@Ukulele Jay BBQ glad to hear it wasn't an ad, and I'm glad the product works for you
@@neonsilver1936 thanks. Definitely better options for “sharpening” which I will showing in my upcoming Work Sharp sharpeners series. Also not paid 😎👊🏻
It's a really good tool for sharpening knives but it cost 100$ you could buy a worksheet for 30 bucks cheaper and it does the same thing just as easy it's a great tool but four hundred bucks I wouldn't buy it but if you want to buy it go ahead I'm just talkin for me
Agree the HORL at $500 is a premium and at that price you could buy some of the best belt sharpeners. I think the no power option, this style wins over a lot of sharpeners when it comes to a “learning curve” such as. Whetstones or even the angular sliding sharpeners you have to assemble.
German Horl sharpener is better and has more options
Yes still very limited. I like the WorkSharp line of sharpeners much better and even the highest end power sharpener is cheaper than the HORL Pro. For that price I have multiple sharpeners that do much more. Still a nifty sharpener!
Wondering why would I have to travel with a knife sharpener
You may not but I am a personal chef and do events. My last one I had to slice 16 tri-tips by hand and I needed to hone my knife so this with the 3000 Ceramic would be awesome. Had a ceramic honing rod but this provides the perfect honing angle. Doing a large event in Oct and I will have this with me for sure. I do not like honing steel rods.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ I see got it!
@@keerthikumar2023 no problem! Was a very good question.