How do you stop nydus worm in this current version. Even on ladder you plan your build blindly to counter this by two base robo immortal charge lots. You still lose to Zerg because they spam nydus everywhere. One in main, one in mineral and one out in front and they can be in all three places at the same time.
teudaan Let’s just say you’re correct. Let’s just say blizzard is gonna read this comment and go, “WOW, what a genius! An anecdotal analysis based purely on his losses against Zerg? Better nerf it so it’s never used again!”. Let’s just say there’s no way you could have won that game whatsoever despite knowing the strat due to it being overpowered.
The nydus rush is still relatively a new sort of mid game push for Zerg. Sort of like how I've seen more nukes dropped in late game TvZ than I have ever seen last year when watching causing Terran to start to win late game. Neither are overpowered, the pros will find out how to beat it. They might just need a bit more time. Maru and TY probably already know what to do tbh.
we've seen it get crushed earlier this season. some protoss had it mapped out perfectly with the right amount of units to kill it before it did anything and the zerg just kept throwing away money until he lost. huge pain in the ass though.
game 2 was seriously impressive. spoiler: if Dark in-game saw the rush to storm and less immortals, and then made the decision to nydus on the fly, that is damn GENIUS
For once, out of the what 9 years of Starcraft 2, someone finally used the Nydus worm the way I always thought it should. Fast army repositioning. Not just one all out attack, but gurella style tactics.
@@riceball3105 I don't know any Korean at all, so I can't really make a judgement on that. Conceptually though that doesn't seem so bad, I mean in the Tekken community for example most of the casters are friends with the players and will often joke around in commentary. I think I prefer that aspect of their casting rather than the Starcraft style of trying to make the players seem like flawless demigods rather than skilled humans. Unless its Innovation. He is a cyborg.
They better not nerf nydus, in the last few years serious nydus play like this is virtually inexistent. Or most of the time they just nydus 1 or 2 holes then gave up. This, on the other hand, is truly a refreshing style.
i love when i hear all the time things like Hero is very intelligent, Hero doesn't let him slow down, Hero reacted very well ... and in the end hero losses. :D Sometimes it sounds like PR for Hero.
"these storms are so good" - like it's possible to have bad storms. A simple little click covers half the map in insane damage. It's a joke ability. I've never seen bad storms in my life. Gold league has "really good storms". Come on guys.
How the fuck is Nydus not OP? Seriously, someone explain this to me. Someone with hardcore knowledge. For what? 150, 100 of resources, you get infinite amount of guerrilla tactics potential, and protoss is slow, it lacks the mobility to deal with this. Not to mention, it is extremely unsportsmanslike. It is cowardly and disgusting. Shame on Pro zergs who abuse nydus usage vs Toss.
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Amazing Game 2. Fantastic to see
why is the observer focusing on the protoss attack when the damage is done on the other side of the map?
Nydus worn nerf inc' because of that last game xD
Yeah and I think rightfully so... That wasn't good to watch and didn't seem fair tbh.
There doesn't seem to be much of a downside at all to using them... Cheaper and more mobile than overlord drops
@@MareHazyDawn I agree
How do you stop nydus worm in this current version. Even on ladder you plan your build blindly to counter this by two base robo immortal charge lots. You still lose to Zerg because they spam nydus everywhere. One in main, one in mineral and one out in front and they can be in all three places at the same time.
teudaan Let’s just say you’re correct. Let’s just say blizzard is gonna read this comment and go, “WOW, what a genius! An anecdotal analysis based purely on his losses against Zerg? Better nerf it so it’s never used again!”. Let’s just say there’s no way you could have won that game whatsoever despite knowing the strat due to it being overpowered.
@@AAA-mk7ge it may just be he's asking for tips you know. Don't lump every comment automatically with the diamond whiners'
I think the overseeers are the problem. I play terran and currently I build viking first. Maybe if you're protoss you can build like 2 phoenix.
The nydus rush is still relatively a new sort of mid game push for Zerg. Sort of like how I've seen more nukes dropped in late game TvZ than I have ever seen last year when watching causing Terran to start to win late game. Neither are overpowered, the pros will find out how to beat it. They might just need a bit more time. Maru and TY probably already know what to do tbh.
we've seen it get crushed earlier this season. some protoss had it mapped out perfectly with the right amount of units to kill it before it did anything and the zerg just kept throwing away money until he lost. huge pain in the ass though.
game 2 was seriously impressive.
spoiler:
if Dark in-game saw the rush to storm and less immortals, and then made the decision to nydus on the fly, that is damn GENIUS
15:58 i thought i skip that song in F1, i never heard it again..
Best casters ever but dammit Artosis stop with your CHILLS
For once, out of the what 9 years of Starcraft 2, someone finally used the Nydus worm the way I always thought it should. Fast army repositioning. Not just one all out attack, but gurella style tactics.
>Esports player says literally anything
>Korean casters lose their freaking minds
*wat*
Cool Beans i know the Korean commenter also makes fun of the players too. That pisses me off
@@riceball3105 I don't know any Korean at all, so I can't really make a judgement on that. Conceptually though that doesn't seem so bad, I mean in the Tekken community for example most of the casters are friends with the players and will often joke around in commentary. I think I prefer that aspect of their casting rather than the Starcraft style of trying to make the players seem like flawless demigods rather than skilled humans.
Unless its Innovation. He is a cyborg.
Enjoyed the commentating during the second game!
i just wondered: what do you guys think about an upgrade for the prism that lets them load more units, like 8 light units and 3-4 massive units.
scholliman just what toss needs! More buffs!
Uhhh.... after so many years of SC2, I don't think buffing Protoss is an answer. #theorycraftingsucks
I hope you realize how bad of an idea that sounds. 2 archons in 1 prism are already stupid hard enough to kill
@@xxxcelol yes protosses are good as they are, whore tier race, I mean somebody has to be weakest, and not terrans or zergs for sure.
@@amai2307 Someone has to be weakest?
That's not a how balanced game works.
What a sick Jacket Hero!!!
I really hope they pay Tastosis well. They deserve 6 figures for sure.
They better not nerf nydus, in the last few years serious nydus play like this is virtually inexistent. Or most of the time they just nydus 1 or 2 holes then gave up. This, on the other hand, is truly a refreshing style.
GAME 1, AWESOME!!!!
김준호가 스톰은 기가 맥히네
why does artosis have a green face :(
I believe your acid is kicking in.
Second game was awesome
Power dynamic seems to be broken between Artosis and Tasteless. Please restore the balance.
Astute moves by herO
Thats some clutch nydus play!
korean zerg players are evolving!!! dam man!!!
i love when i hear all the time things like Hero is very intelligent, Hero doesn't let him slow down, Hero reacted very well ... and in the end hero losses. :D Sometimes it sounds like PR for Hero.
한국어좀 올려라...
nydused
땅굴 개사기아니냐
"these storms are so good" - like it's possible to have bad storms. A simple little click covers half the map in insane damage. It's a joke ability. I've never seen bad storms in my life. Gold league has "really good storms". Come on guys.
thats why protoss wins so much because storm is so op... oh wait
LUL Forget the games! Let’s just talk about how Bunny played everyone like a fiddle!
Storms are so op
Drav dd nydus is so Op
How the fuck is Nydus not OP? Seriously, someone explain this to me. Someone with hardcore knowledge. For what? 150, 100 of resources, you get infinite amount of guerrilla tactics potential, and protoss is slow, it lacks the mobility to deal with this. Not to mention, it is extremely unsportsmanslike. It is cowardly and disgusting. Shame on Pro zergs who abuse nydus usage vs Toss.