Land Destruction, but in Standard! | Outlaws of Thunder Junction | Much Abrew About Nothing
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2024
- Against all odds Wizards gave us not just one but two new land destruction spells in Outlaws of Thunder Junction! Let's use them to get some flawless victories!
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Despair, destruction, dismay, desperation, distress. Seths core values.
The Five Ds.
For someone who is so joyful loves the most degenerate type of magic. I love it ❤❤
Missing draw 😂
The best kind of Magic!
Saffron is the duality of mtg players lmfao
"The cruel irony of explosives is they're most interesting exactly when you should be running away as fast as you can." Those are true words.
Gotta love Seth and his willingness to torture people for content
Glad he's a Magic content creator and not some IRL dude on Twitch or (shudder) Kick
It’s called Magic not super happy fun time 😊
Crafting the Sawblades with your excess mana was a possibility a couple times in this video, you get a good vehicle that you can turn into a creature by tapping 2 artifacts which you have a ton anyways.
Targeted Land Destruction is definitely a crime
Targeted? phew, I thought you were gonna hate me (looking at Worldfire in hand)
at 16:59 you coud transform the Thousand Moons thing and juse unstable Glyphbrige to destroy his Goosmother
I know, I just about jumped out of my bed as the trigger was LITERALLY ON THE STACK, and he threw in the towel before even considering the cards he put in his deck.
Unless I mis understand and flipped smithy enters tapped?
@@spencerstanley4759 You both are correct, if Seth taps the 2 creatures and the 3 other artifacts that don't produce mana then the smithy will be untapped, giving the 5th mana source
He coulso use the territory to claim his synthezizer back - oppo stole sole the next one and no construct + he gets another one
I mean, he won, but it was too late for 1 land destruction anyway and hed get his value back
But he missplays alot because hes too focused on the deck goal instead of his rest of the deck or battlefield... Specially with land destruction
Like when he played "all land destruction"
He had a full hand of land destruction, threw it all away to find an answer for creatures, burns all his mana - his oppo had a creature turning all creatures into lands..... He had so many boardwipes in hand!
But thats why we love him❤❤❤️
Ugh, good call. I messed that up
Just watched it and saw that, too... ughhh Seth! 😂
This is a cautionary taaale, A BOOM BOX IS NOT A TOOOY!!
This song has been stuck in my head the whole time
God that ending goes so hard
land destruction, my favorite format😮
Sadly no bloodmoon this time
The fact that you mentioned the Chris Farely sketch!!! A classic for sure. ❤
fun fact: you can exile multiple cards to Fabrication Foundry, so at 29.30 or so, Seth a) could have surveiled to see if he could mill something better to recur. b) could have gotten back the net by exiling the sawblade AND the extruder
Always a pleasure seeing a fellow LD enjoyer
For the lilah deck pioneer has access to a lot of the split cards, and even just looking at ones that can be cast using only blue and red mana it gives so many options. a stifle effect for 2, that can then be used to copy one of your creatures (repudiate/replicate), forced attacks/blocks that turn into a pump spell for your turn (hustle/bustle), even a pump/removal spell that can also remove lands and do some burn (bedeck/bedazzle). I'm not sure if it is modern playable, but it could do some weird stuff in pioneer and really mess people up
love it when seth plays the opposite of budget magic
I love ever land destruction deck he’s ever put up. I can’t stop watching them. I’ll never play them, but I’m just fascinated by them.
I would run Touch of the Spirit Realm as well in this! You could flicker for 2 mana any of your artifacts to get a sneaky Karnstruct block
The Lonely Island was right - the Boom Box is way too powerful :D
Thank God none of his opponents were old people! You gotta know your limits with a boombox. A boombox is not a toy!
And to think he got hit by the boiled Goose!
@29:17 you can sac 1 OR MORE artifacts to the fabrication foundry! So you could have gotten back braided net there. (Not that it was a great spot either way. Love the video
I started playing land D with sinkholes and now this is where we are. Love it.
I wonder how good 'Scene of the Crime' would be in this deck. Its an artifact land that can sac itself for two generic to draw a card and it doesn't need to tap to sac itself.
Love some good ol decks that feed on tears.
Cool to see Swayze on here! He makes some really cool creative and cheesy decks :D
I was happy when I saw this video. Land distruction is my favorite archetype, and SaffronOlive explains things so well!
I started playing a similar land destruction deck a few days ago (might try this one). I genuinely think Territory Forge might be my new favorite card. I LOVE me some land destruction!
Loved this video!
Thanks!
That's a fun karnstruct loop!
Land destruction feels so absolutely hateful
And thats a good thing
that 3.. 2 .. 1 ... draw! absolutely killed me
- a cowboy, somewhere in the afterlife
Would Engima Jewel work well in this? It doesn't help to cast artifacts, but it adds the two to activate artifacts, making the boombox faster but the Forge slower...
Also, could have declined the boseiju land search to not shuffle the deck at 49:00, yet Seth clicked 'accept' :D
I also think enigma jewel would be a good consideration. So would Oaken Siren and moonsnare prototype, for ramp purposes. You could replace the Fabrication Foundry with Goblin Scrapwelder (which doesn't exile) to complete to boombox loops and cut white completely, also. I think Tameshi, Reality Architect is a fine switch for Chimil in any instance, as Temeshi allows you to loop Territory forges from the battlefield.
If not cutting white, removing some of the sawblades and glyphbridges to add the ramp creatures could be a good pre-sideboard swap. Cutting Chimil makes sense as well, because Chimil isn't technically on-plan and only serves as a bit of a win-more. The opens 3-5 slots for a few copies of the preferred ramp spell.
If cutting white, the artifact density would definitely drop, and you would also lose the boardwipe. You could replace it with Temporal Firestorm, or Burn Down the House, which also hit planeswalkers. You would also lose Thousand Moon Smithy, which honestly wasn't as effective as the Simulacrum anyhow, but you could add copy effects (with Saheeli, the Sun's Brilliance, Hulking Metamorph, or Three Steps Ahead) which are more flexible.
tl;dr,
Jeskai, replace Chimil w Tameshi, & trim sawblades for ramp.
Izzet, Use scrapwelder & copy effects to clean manabase & add flexibility.
@@matthewshea9541 wow this tweak right here is great, thank you
This video makes it seem like an artifact synergy deck would be quite strong in standard, just have to drop the land destruction package and play actually good cards in those slots 😆
I tried something similar but with Tameshi to bring back the boombox infinitely, creating a nice lock once it's in place.
I see a Seth video, I see it's land destruction, I start watching :)
That last came was awesome I kept trying to figure out what their deck was doing. It had some plan I just couldn’t figure it out
16:57 that was the exact topdeck you needed, if you would've tapped five artifacts the smithy would become a land and you'd have exactly five man to cast the glyphbridge
I need to say, commenting before i see any game, classy choice of the Rakdos Avatar Seth.
The only thing better than MILL Land Destruction!
Awesome! I posted my own mono blue build for Boom Box and Esoteric Duplicator is a great card with Omen Hawker and The Enigma Jewel and with those you can loop Candy Trails for repeated scrys/life/draw, or Tinker's Tote for gnomes/life, and Mnemonic Sphere for cheap card draws. In Explorer it even makes Guild Globe it's own draw engine. It's a really cool card.
It does need removal, so Azorius is probably the best build for Boom Box
The energy ‘bad bob’ was good in standard. Glint-Sleeve Siphoner was its name I think
33:37 I’ve been having a lot of fun pairing Step Between Worlds with Proft’s Eidetic Memory and Duelist of the Mind. That can just one-shot people if you get all the pieces together
I think the big construct backup plan is what makes this deck quite flexible and solid
Im here for Flawless Victories in standard, but also to ask that you build Saheeli x Esoteric Duplicator for against the odds.
Did you consider Enigma Jewel for this list? Helps ramp to Boom Box activations with a top end of double boom box activations when crafted
EDIT: yeah seeing that half the things in this deck care about activating abilities, Enigma Jewel seems like an obvious include.
Love seeing this after watching Crim send Richard back to the stone age,
In the game against the goose mother, could you not have transformed the thousand moon smithy and cast the glyphbridge to keep going?
5:52 what captain holt
sounds like when eating a marshmallow for the first time
This deck is sweet
I'm looking forward to a "bad bob tier list"!! :D
Love it
Land destruction that does very little land destruction XD
31:09 100% should have left that fabrication foundry on top, the guaranteed mana rock may be slower but it's better than taking the risk of being stuck at 3 even longer
Territory requiring you to cast is doing a LOT of work to keep this deck subdued
It makes it slower, but Chimil pulling Forge is still a cast... :D
I run something similar to this but get extra value off Saheeli, the Sun's Brilliance. 2 to make a copy that sacs itself, then 2 from esoteric to make a permanent copy. I think I had like 8 Synthesizers at one point. Either way its a solid combo that adds some extra value if the opponent is silly enough to let saheeli go uncontested.
I was searching for cards to kill mirrex in control decks and I found this video. This is nutty, I hope I don't have to play against this, lol. Maybe territory forge will be OK for control, probably my worst match up.
You definalty have to play the split card lilith deck the concepts so cool
25:45 In terms of "bad Dark Confidants" that actually had impact, Glintsleeve Siphoner saw some play in standard. At least enough I think it merits some mention.
This looks a lot like my tetzin commander deck with all the flip artifacts
After Commander Clash this week, this seems rather appropriate.
Hindsight is 20/20 against the Goose Mother you could have tapped your two tokens, sawblade, duplicator, and extruder to flip smithy for your fifth land to cast the bridge. Dunno if that would have saved you but it netted another turn maybe.
We know Seth LOVES destroying bounce lands!
Seth please make a brawl or edh deck using Hazezon as general for playing deserts from the grave and then just play mass land destruction, like Fall of Thran or Armageddon.
Sensing a theme with today's Much Abrew About Nothing and Commander Clash.
i think the Tezzeret Betrayer of Flesh would be really good in this deck.
yes.
Played against this last night, my god - missed a couple land drops and then this...full rage.
Land destruction is so fun.
Dang it I was blowing up people's lands all last night and now the secret is out. The real dirty trick this deck is missing is Enigma Jewel / Collector's Vault (and omen hawker, but it runs into removal if you're zero creatures otherwise). You can power out a 5 mana spell on turn 3, you can double boom box activations
Seth trying to get some emotional revenge for getting Ruinationed by Crm
glyphbridge lets you choose which creature with power 2 or less they keep. You could have let the bronco live and use the glyphbridge to destroy the bloodletter
53:23 I think Flotsam // Jetsam doesn’t see more play in commander because it has a 3 color commander identity as a minimum. Whereas if it was just 2 color or 1, it would see more play.
I wonder if Simulacrum Synthesizer and Cryptic Coat could work together well
Against the Rush of Dread deck: Unstable Glyphbridge would destroy bloodletter if you kept caustic bronco because it destroys all but one creature with power 2 or less
"he's a dancer guy, right?" XD
Okay, I hate land destruction, but I kind of love the fact that you actually managed to build a constructed deck that uses one of the horrendously expensive common/uncommon colorless removal artifacts that they put in every set.
I was thinking that it might be worth it to put more things that make power stone shards because the shards are true ramp for this deck and they should be cheaper than a lot of the stuff already in this deck.
I've been playing Azorius artifact control with Simulacrum Synthesizer + Thousand Moons Smithy + Worldwalker Helm. It's absolutely brutal in most matchups.
Deck
2 Adarkar Wastes (DMU) 243
4 Clay-Fired Bricks (LCI) 6
2 Deserted Beach (MID) 260
1 Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire (NEO) 268
4 Fabrication Foundry (LCI) 12
3 Get Lost (LCI) 14
6 Island (ROE) 235
2 Meticulous Archive (MKM) 264
1 Mirrex (ONE) 254
4 No More Lies (MKM) 221
1 Otawara, Soaring City (NEO) 271
6 Plains (RTR) 250
3 Seachrome Coast (ONE) 258
3 Silver Scrutiny (DMU) 65
4 Simulacrum Synthesizer (BIG) 6
2 Sunfall (MOM) 40
1 The Celestus (MID) 252
3 Thousand Moons Smithy (LCI) 39
2 Unstable Glyphbridge (LCI) 41
2 Worldwalker Helm (BIG) 7
4 Steel Seraph (BRO) 38
If there was a deck to get me back into paper standard it would be this deck
At 17 minutes in you could have tapped artifacts and creatures to flip the thousand moon smithy before playing the glyphbridge
Seth or Crim, will you guys be trying out the new infinite combo in standard, Rackdos Joins Up combo? Or Mono Black Skeletons?
This is one of the first sets in ages that fblthp is featured in and seen in the video and for once he’s not using the fblthp avatar. *gasp*
Surprised Buzzcrusher isn't in this deck, not as good as the other options, honestly, but it's cheaper, and a decently sized threat
Yep, artifact ponza is here
Wouldn't this deck benefit from running Abuelo Ancestral Echo to reset the Legion Extruder, Fabrication Foundry and the Spring-loaded Sawblades?
Why no Krenko's Buzzcrusher? It is LD and a artifact. :(
I can only imagine he was worried about a potential Turn 3 4/4 flample ending the game too quickly, because it would seem to be the obvious first card on the decklist. It can snipe the non-basic lands so your unconditional land destruction cars can mop up the rest.
@@KoshoShinogi Yeah people could rage scoop with a turn 3 Buzz.
Patrick Swayze was also in Roadhouse which is probably why you thought “Roundhouse”. Typical Seth ;)
Q: why is it referred to as a "flawless victory" when the opponent loses with having no lands on the battlefield? In my head I hear the Mortal Kombat "Flawless Victory" which is when you defeat the opponent without taking any damage, which frequently does not happen in Seth's LB games in general.
Lazy answer: Different meanings for different games. But I'd say the difficulty of killing an opponent in magic with no permanents is higher than killing someone without taking damage.
Because that's how the jargon evolved... It's not that hard to win without taking damage if your opponent is running control with a risky big win con. But to kill everything, including lands, is just as tough as winning a beat-em-up without taking damage.
Coo coo choo
Intimidation campaign can be good in the right deck. Repeatable card draw, life gain, and life loss on a single card is a lot. It also is card parity (not card advantage or disatvantage) but on its own, yes, its not spectacular.
land destruction is so fun in 60 card formats, i play gruul ponza in pauper and its a blast. its p much playing control but you're also ramping out big stompy creatures. unfortunately i dont think itll every be printed into relevancy bc edh players do not run interaction and that is wizards main audience at this point :/
Seth can’t say Aragorn yet some how nails simulacrum synthesizer flawlessly lol
34:29 Oh that's neat, the idea is to have Jin on the battlefield and then cast the whele for free, having seven in to meet the activtion requirement and having all your mana untapped to pay for it. Cool.
Pretty sure the goal of the Jin-Gitaxias deck is to pull off a free Step Between Worlds into a Jin flip
this deck makes me curious what shenanigans you could unleash with Powerstones in standard now…
The Fall of Kroog?!?!?!?!? 6 mana land destruction + end the festivites + lava spike
So i managed to throw together a stupid good land destruction deck using boom box and its even green blue its mostly all about making copies of boom box spawning powerstones and land seaking plus that tree that lets you play from graveyard
powerstone would resolve the mana issue, add some thran spider?
at 17:10 you could have flipped the thousand moon thing into a land and boardwiped
what would you say about adding Krenko Buzz crusher? its also an artifact..
Remember you can flip your Sawblades! A 5/5 you can crew for free is no joke!
The issue with flotsam/ jetsam in commander is that it's three colors, and it doesn't really fit into what the most popular sultai decks are trying to do (i.e. mill yourself, and get value from permanents)
I guess you could put it into a sultai theft shell, but it's a bit hit or miss. If it also got something from your own graveyard, or was just dimir colored, I think it'd see more play.
That was a really sick brew though.
sultai doesn't like self mill and grinding out value from permanents? the like definitive dredge colors? sultai is one of the best color pairings to get value out of self mill
I meant that yes, self mill is what sultai wants, and while flotsam jetsam is generically good, it doesn't take from your own graveyard. Thus it's not really a payoff for self mill (nor is it an easily recurrable permanent), so people drift away from it naturally. If there's ever a sultai commander that cares about instants/sorceries, it'll spike in popularity for sure
How long does it normally take for stuff to ship from card market?
So...sans the Territory Forge which is cute but Kinda...not great, I feel like this deck has potential as an Idea? Like the synthesizer giving you karnstrucks as riders for your other artifacts is kinda sick. I wonder of Oltec Matterweaver could find a Place as a way to not get ran over? Makes guys and doesn't die to Glypthbridge
im playing a lurrus shell with boombox
results to be determined.