Her partner is one lucky woman. Jennifer is such a sweet, smart woman and I wish I could have someone write a song like this for me! What a wonderful performance. Thanks for posting this one!!!!
Yes it is true, Jesus loves Jennifer and all who are gay. She is a great singer. It was her song, "Undo Me" that got me singing and plying guitar myself! 14 years later I am still singing and playing guitar, thank you Jen! I first heard her when I was a young teenager. Her early Christian songs, helped me so much to grow as a Christian and am thankful for them. I pray that she will come back to the faith that she once believed, the whole truth of the Holy Word of God.
I really miss her convicting songs! They inspired me and still do, to live for the Lord in this "Fallen World". She taught me that no matter how hard the path of the straight and narrow may be to walk on, to keep on, for it is so worth it in the end. I will continue Jen! I love Jesus and you! Wish you were on that path with me.
Jennifer Is from my area of Ks, I have always loved her music ever since she 1st showed up on the KOBC radio station in Joplin Mo, I bought her CD back then. Jennifer is Awesome, I can relate with her ALOT!
i seen her at creation back in the 90s i still listen to all the old songs and i would come and see her still ... and any christian that tell you are not a christian then they need to check thier own heart ...
I used to listen to Jennifer Knapp all the time back in the day. I googled her today to see what she's up to (I'm out of the Christian community now and not up on news). Glad to see she's making music and that she's living true to herself. Considering the company Jesus kept, I wouldn't doubt he'd welcome her to wine and dine with him - gay or not. She's cool.
Your music helped me through some tough times. I saw you in a small concert in Oakdale, CA. It was the first and only Christian concert I've ever been to. You rocked the house! I listed to you everyday as I commuted to school. I had 3 kids and way too much drama in my life at the time. Your music gave me strength as I sometimes sang them, cried them, screamed them:) Thanks Jennifer
people that are bashing jennifer obviosly don't see the real gift she is.She has got me through the hardest times of my life.I am not even a christian and I have listened to her since I was a kid.I do believe god is using her for the good of this earth.She is REAL music.Stuff we don't even hear nowadays.I feel like alot of christians love to look for the bad in people and make them feel conflicted in the worst ways but I honestly think it is to make them feel like they are better.
I think it is clear Jennifer knows her Bible. She, unlike some others here, also knows that being gay or lesbian are not the only abominations listed in the Bible. Lying is an abomination.. a proud look is an abomination... many many others too. We talk, talk, talk scripture but how are we living it? Jennifer Knapp helped me to reconcile my love for God with the sin I still have. A very wise friend told me I could never go wrong if I followed the red letters. Who is my neighbor? Jennifer Knapp and pretty much everyone else. I don't condone any sin- mine or your's. Christ calls us to love. He will do the judging.
Dale Schuck I read your comment and right off the bat I like you. I am not gay but I surely am guilty of sin and I'm so glad that you were bold enough to point that out on open social media. May the god of peace be with you all the days of your life.
Wish i would have known she performed "that close to Indy". Love her new CD, just hoping she comes this way sometime soon! If you haven't listening to her new CD yet, it is marvelous...beautiful...honest.
so thankful i now know the truth, and i feel so incredibly at peace with it. I never had peace with what i was taught. Never really accepted it. So i studied and studied and of course prayed until I did have peace about it. Thank you Lord for showing me the truth. please help others too...we have gay ppl everyday killing themselves bcuz of how they've been treated by christians.. Stop the hate! God is Love.
One of my absolute favorites, I am grateful for discovering this artist. I can't help comment about all the anti-gay, pro-gay, anti-religion, pro-religion comments below. All of your comments and rolling arguments are based on the fact that you think everyone should share your opinion, respect the choice of everyone to have there own opinion and subject no one to you own please. I would respect your comments more if you expressed your opinion on the quality of the song only.
...LOVE??? Isn't that what being a christian is supposed to be? Jennifer...beatiful beautiful..have helped me so many times with your songs...Thank you so much. Especially Hold me now...can't tell you how much i have felt like the woman thats about to be stoned to death..Let he without sin, cast the first stone if you will...wow. I am so glad that these christians aren't our judge, huh. lol..i am a christian, i just get tired of the ones that need to take the log out of their own eye...
Jennifer is allowing myself to reconsider returning to faith. I've been a fan of hers growing up. Unfortunately, Too many people feel they have to choose between their sexuality and God. For me, I couldn't just ignore who I am and nothing I did helped anything. Pretending to be someone who I am not caused me so much more pain and grief than any other thing in my life, and as a result, I walked away from it. I'm not saying I AM returning but people like her make it a little easier to think about.
Oh gosh, all the hate comments from "Christians"....Keep on holding on to your faith in Jesus ennifer Knapp, and ignore the hateful rhetorics from those who thinks they are perfect and righteous above all
to those that use the bible as a weapon and judge us do you not read and follow Matthew 7? It says not to judge of which you do. Me being a transsexual bisexual you are so quick to judge without getting to know any of us. Stop all of your hating on the LGBT Community and Jennifer Knapp. Jennifer is so amazing and a great role model of stepping out on faith showing us an example to be authentic and dealing with all of your hypocritical viewpoints on humanity. If you do not agree then step off your mountain and leave this is for those that love Jennifer Knapp and her songs. Piss off!!!
I voted your comment down not so much because I disagree, but because you used the wrong verse(s) to make your point. The whole argument about "judging" or "not judging" is missing the point. We CAN judge someone, based on their works or actions. It is called discernment. Now, if you want a few verses with which to make your point, try Mathew 19, verses 21 all the way to the end of verse 26. This is the famous (and often misused or misunderstood) quote where Jesus says that it is easier for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter heaven. Now, if you read all of that, and have an IQ of more than 60, you will see that this is NOT about rich people not going to heaven. It is about God's love and it is illustrative that we don't really know who will make it into heaven, but it makes it CLEAR that all things are possible with GOD. Jennifer is a lesbian and the Bible makes it clear that lesbianism is a sin. But in the verses I point out, Jesus made it clear that rich guys can't go to heaven APART FROM GOD. I truly believe that the same applies to sinners in general. Given these verses, and given the wonderful contribution Jennifer made in music, given that she penned those songs herself (those of her early career - wonderful songs that show a heart for the Lord), I believe that I know her heart. She has a heart for God, and given what Mathew 19 says, I am confident I will see her in heaven, as Jesus wipes every tear from her eyes; same as He will do for me. I truly hope that Jennifer does not believe the garbage being thrown at her. No one is out of reach of God's hand, and once we turn to Him and sign our heart over to Him NONE of us has the power to remove ourselves from His hand. And I have verses to back THAT up, too. ... signed, a right-wing Southern Baptist.
And my remark about an IQ of 60 is not directed at you, it is that my son has an IQ of about 55 and even he understands what I wrote above. I am simply saying that this is simple and fundamental - unless, of course, you listen to arrogant and ignorant (*maybe well meaning, but still...) people who read ONE VERSE in the Bible and then run off spewing that ONE VERSE.....
I was a bit torn on deleting some of these posts so since these comments mainly deal with Jen, I will be going by her rules. So here we go - My policy on deletes: only delete when specific abusive comments are made (re:others ie: "you are...) "otherwise, I am happy to leave personal opinions up so long as they are traceable/accountable posts. When sharing ones opinion, it can be illuminating to their perspective as it differs to others. It is important to let all be heard, with care.
As far as the concept of sin goes, I think it means missing the mark or making a mistake. I think that we are all learning what we need to learn and I will let the Universe or God or Goddess out what that consists of. Since we are actually animals, sex is the least of our sinning. I think lack of reverence for life and projecting our ideas onto others are mistakes that is destroying our world and our brothers and sisters on this beautiful earth.
Jesus is love. He loves me and Jennifer Knapp, even though we are gay. We should all ask for forgiveness when we hurt others, not when we love others- even if they are of the same gender. I am also a middle school teacher, a first-generation college grad, the oldest of four, and a deacon at my church. All of these labels are more important to me, and more indicative of who I am, than the gender of my fiancee.
@imaginnne13 please read above what i wrote. i decided to treat these posts as jen does on her facebook. i already went through and deleted many of them. :)
I hope this makes it to you Jennifer are you still Fallin do you think he shed his blood sugar you could send and still go to heaven the Torah still applies do you write your own lyrics if so what went wrong I’m a sinner nonetheless I’ve lived a life of debauchery but I’ve never been attracted to the same sex that’s always been the hardest thing for me to understand I have been discharged from the Marine Corps and married a girl from Okinawa Japan who betrayed me I knew all about Jesus but I never knew him and I just can’t understand how somebody like yourself can seem to have such a relationship through your songs and live the way you did it’s been a long time I was 25 years old and I have given my life to the Lord and I got into a relationship and it failed and I failed I am now 58 years old and I’ve only been clean since November 2022 I fell back into my life of sin crack cocaine and when I found out that you were when you came out as a lesbian my heart was broken I bought your first album when I was 25 between Glenwood Springs Colorado and Aspen at a little Christian store the album‘s name was Kansas and I found so much joy and admonition from your words and your music are you a girl who is gifted like you were I just don’t understand I just don’t understand I hope you are doing well and I hope that he has pierced your heart and you have given your life back to him your music still advised me today and I’ve been listening to your music now for the first time in over 20 years I swear I never listen to your music again but now that I’ve been clean again not for a very long time but I’m trying to get back to where I was with my savior I pray for you sister I pray that you come full circle and you found a good man and you for great children and that your gifts that he’s giving you go on them I hope to see you someday on the other side and meet you and maybe play guitar with you I had a severe crush on you and I hope to of met you someday but like I said when I found out things about you I was I was heartbroken like I was never heartbroken before the lyrics you wrote the lyrics you saying still to this day I can’t believe they were ripe with repentance and guilt and shame I love you sister I hope to meet you someday !amein
She always sings off to the side of her mic (like stage left) or away from it...Must drive her monitor tech or front of house person bonkers....Great voice though.
Sad that I read all these angry posts. Jennifer's music gave so much understanding to me in my own sin when I was in my early 20twenties. Her lyrics brought me to a place of repentance before our God always reminding me that He is my Holy Father, and that I can crawl into His "lap" and say I'm sorry at any time. I can ask for forgiveness and He WILL forgive. I believe she shares with us in the out pouring of the Grace of Jesus Christ. I am still a sinner. But only by the grace of God I go. I will not choose to offer truth with out grace. Instead, I offer both. The truth is that God outlined in scripture what sexual sin is. This includes homosexuality, adultery and fornication as well as sex with animals and children. These things are clearly sinful. However, when the adulteress who was caught in the act (hardly repentant at the time) was cast at His (Jesus') feet, what opportunity did He take? What point did He make? He did not take the opportunity to announce her sins before the crowd. Why? Because that was a given! Everybody already knew that part! BUT! He DID take these short moments to quietly and truthfully challenge those surrounding her with stones to kill her. He said, "Let he without sin cast the first stone" EVERYONE walked away. He said to her "Go, and sin no more" We all need to acknowledge our sin. Grieve it and repent of it. Place it at the foot of the cross and let Jesus say, "It Is Finished." I pray for everyone here to trust in the saving Grace of Jesus Christ by the shedding of His blood on the cross some 2000+ years ago. For me He died. For YOU he died. For US He rose again. Be Blessed
Jennifer Knapp -I pray regular that one day you'll be Jennifer Knapp and not Jennifer Knapp the gay chic. you'r a great singer songwriter and Kansas got me to you.I never knew you.But I love the more folksy stuff. Join the indie circle where the cool people are.we don't care.And I would love to hear you and amos lee lay one down.And please come to nyc. they have nothing on Nashville singer songwriter status but you can pep it up.
@bahanabrice that's a dumb comment. Seriously! You are only a sinner when you go against yourself. When your not true to yourself which is an expression of God. How can you honestly refuse to see the gifts that she has comes from God. How can loving who ever you want to love, singing heartfelt praises and bringing people closer to God be wrong. It's a lie you've been fed to control you to make you judge yourself.
People, don't be ignorant. Don't assume you know for a fact that being homosexuality is a sin. You obviously did not choose to be heterosexual. Realize what you are saying. Realize that teenagers read this and see how hurtful the Christian faith can be and know that you can easily cause that teenager to go over the edge and attempt suicide. It's not fun being gay and to assume it was a choice is just plain ignorant. Please, just let people be and let them love God without fear.
@DoctorMatty The fact remains, God will never forsake nor leave you. The true image of God is finally being exposed after years of abuse. But ironically the darkness is good. The false prophet glorious; for without them the glory of the light could not be known. Let no man turn this bread to stone: 1 Corinthians 15:22 - "As in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive" There are two in the field. Stones and bread; wheat and tares; The lamb and the dragon The field is the Word
@DoctorMatty christ dieing on the cross caused him alot of pain as he had to reject life to take the punishment for our sin.. and he was innocent... but he still did it becaus he is love and he didnt want us to be eternally sperated form him. being a follower of christ and having faith in him is not about us.. its about honouring God above all our desires... and its not ever going to be easy!
blaming people for the actions of someone that clearly is not stable, to me is unaccepatble...suicide is a coward's way out of the reality...soul searching, through the mercy of GOD, not us is the solution, instead of self destruction...We tend to make plenty of excuses for ourselves, out of pity, while JESUS suffers for us all of the time, we continue to do the same damage to ourselves, instead of being remissive in CHRIST...We need to truly find repentence...
Judge not lest ye be judged. God loves all unconditionally. Do you think Christ would reject a sinner? If He came today he would be with motorcycle gangs, gays, drug addicts, metal thrash musicians and other "reprobates" of society.... the crowd he hung out with was NOT the cream of society. If God loves her just the way she is, who are you to criticize and pass judgment. Have you no sin? Then go ahead and throw a stone.
Being gay is choice. PERIOD. God doesn't create sin, but only allows it. And he sees every sin the same and love people still. He wishes that none will perish.
So let me get this straight, being Gay is alright in Gods eyes? Did not the BIBLE state many times that having sexual relationships with those of the same sex is sinful. I do believe it does. So how can you justify living in sin, knowing that you are and be ok with it? I am not passing judgement, I question my own faith all the time but I do know what right and wrong is according to what God has laid before us and being Gay is wrong, you cant pray for forgiveness everyday and still live in sin.
And one more thing...i read somewhere on one of these websites of yours someone saying that in the bible it says that gay people will go to hell?? Ya, that's not there. What is there is participating in homosexual acts is an abomination. Do any of you know what abomination meant back at that time in that culture??? Look it up..not what it means today, totally different meaning back then.I was raised believing that gay ppl were going to hell, just couldn't accept that. God is of love.
Yes, homosexuality is a sin... but he without sin, cast the first stone. Just because she has sin in her life does not mean she is not a Christian. If we are honest we all have had some sort of struggles in one area or another. We should be praying for her instead of throwing stones. Correct in love.
BOTH of you need to calm down and remember who you claim to worship, Jesus, Lord of Love, who didn't come to condemn but to save. You are being so rude and pointing the finger at each other and it makes me feel sick. If someone who didn't know God came to this page and saw the way you two were talking, what would they think about Christianity? Sometimes you're the only Bible someone reads. Love your neighbor, and your enemy. Please. Don't do it because I say to, do it because you feel it.
@ProphetRay I can tell by what you said that you're not someone worth having an intelligent converstation. All caps? How old are we? Anyways, plenty of proof has been brought up about the real reasons Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Try looking it up. Unless you're too close-minded to try to figure out answers for yourself...
Worshiping Jesus is just like believing in Santa Claus, it feels sooooo real until you realize that he doesn't exist, religion is a way people afraid of death comfort themselves.. Believe what you like , treat your complexes however you wish but don't preach that those who dont believe in Jesus or GOD are arrogant, because frankly so are you... As for gays, why would "GOD" keep making them if he didn't approve of them? Answer me that one CHristians!
@ProphetRay That's completely false. Gay sex isn't a sin any more than heterosexual sex is a sin. Get your facts straight before you start preaching hateful lies.
-In light of the fact that there are clear principals of exegesis which emphasize the role of theme& context, it's shocking you insist on this. It's clear from the words of the Lord Jesus HImself that the creation order was & is the uniting of man & female- that it is sinful & ungodly to agitate otherwise.This theme is established in the genesis account of the male/female relationship and later re- inforced by Jesus who also condemns divorce. Nowhere are men EVER called 'Echad'
No. You are currently being deceived. Plz pull away from this strong delusion. God is love. God does not approve of homosexuality. Wide is the road to destruction & many will go down it. Narrow is the way that leads to life (Matthew 7:13-14). Plz think about this verse.
Take your hypocritical self to your knees and ask God for forgiveness. Your sins are no better or worse than anyone else's. The sooner you get that, the closer to God you will be.
This gal has fallen big time! Even her voice isn't what it was? She is toast in the business and I hope she sees the error of her ways & repents? I think her arrogance did her more harm than the whole lesbian thing has done!
j.e. Witherspoon There is nothing Christ-like in being homosexual either so get a grip my friend. Too many people today want others to believe what they say or what they do is the right way or the right thing and it goes against Christ's teaching. If it's not exactly what Christ says, trust me when I tell you it's wrong! I've heard countless gays/lesbians claim they feel God is just fine with the way they are. It has nothing to do with feelings and I assure being homosexual is NOT alright or acceptable with God or any of His teachings!
Bernhardt Heckendorn You seem to think that other's sins are worse than yours. You DO realize that you are as lost as Jen is, right? We ALL depend on Christ's redemptive work on the cross. He told us that NO rich man can enter heaven, yet, in the same breath, He said, "With God all things are possible." You have no way of knowing Jen's destiny, aside from cherry-picking verses. GO read Matt 7 again, or for the first time, maybe.
j.e. Witherspoon Oh so many believe that "gay" or lesbian is a choice and that the choice is, therefore, made "in God's face". It is those who honestly believe that Jen is a lesbian by choice. I do not believe that it true at all. But those who do have no logical option but to condemn Jen, and that is what BH is doing. PRoblem is, logic and the human mind do not go together - but BH can't see that, or does not want to.
***** Let's get one thing straight from the beginning. To live a homosexual lifestyle IS a choice and both medical & metal sciences have proven that over & over. Those of YOU who chose to believe otherwise, there-in lies the problem. Have a nice day!
Her partner is one lucky woman. Jennifer is such a sweet, smart woman and I wish I could have someone write a song like this for me! What a wonderful performance. Thanks for posting this one!!!!
Yes it is true, Jesus loves Jennifer and all who are gay. She is a great singer. It was her song, "Undo Me" that got me singing and plying guitar myself! 14 years later I am still singing and playing guitar, thank you Jen! I first heard her when I was a young teenager. Her early Christian songs, helped me so much to grow as a Christian and am thankful for them. I pray that she will come back to the faith that she once believed, the whole truth of the Holy Word of God.
A great voice, a great artist, nothing on this earth can take away from that.
This performance still gives me chills. Thank you Wally for recording this and thank you Jenny for performing this.
I really miss her convicting songs! They inspired me and still do, to live for the Lord in this "Fallen World". She taught me that no matter how hard the path of the straight and narrow may be to walk on, to keep on, for it is so worth it in the end. I will continue Jen! I love Jesus and you! Wish you were on that path with me.
Say what you will God is still using her, Twice Her music has brought me back!
Gorgeous song....one of my favorites from the new album.... I can most certainly relate.
This is by far my favorite Jennifer Knapp song. And I've been following her for years
Jennifer Is from my area of Ks, I have always loved her music ever since she 1st showed up on the KOBC radio station in Joplin Mo, I bought her CD back then. Jennifer is Awesome, I can relate with her ALOT!
This is amazing.
Gorgeous song and message--have listened to this one dozens of times!
i seen her at creation back in the 90s i still listen to all the old songs and i would come and see her still ... and any christian that tell you are not a christian then they need to check thier own heart ...
love the anointing on her songs
I used to listen to Jennifer Knapp all the time back in the day. I googled her today to see what she's up to (I'm out of the Christian community now and not up on news). Glad to see she's making music and that she's living true to herself. Considering the company Jesus kept, I wouldn't doubt he'd welcome her to wine and dine with him - gay or not. She's cool.
Your music helped me through some tough times. I saw you in a small concert in Oakdale, CA. It was the first and only Christian concert I've ever been to. You rocked the house! I listed to you everyday as I commuted to school. I had 3 kids and way too much drama in my life at the time. Your music gave me strength as I sometimes sang them, cried them, screamed them:) Thanks Jennifer
Amazing song and performance!
So beautiful!
Just for clarification purposes. Robert's wife Gail (me) wrote that comment. Been singing Jennifer Knapp songs in church for almost 20 years.
Sooo Freakin Good!!
Regardless of her sexuality (which in my opinion is no ones business anyway), her voice is amazing and so powerful. Love it!!
Beautiful melody.
people that are bashing jennifer obviosly don't see the real gift she is.She has got me through the hardest times of my life.I am not even a christian and I have listened to her since I was a kid.I do believe god is using her for the good of this earth.She is REAL music.Stuff we don't even hear nowadays.I feel like alot of christians love to look for the bad in people and make them feel conflicted in the worst ways but I honestly think it is to make them feel like they are better.
It's not bashing to restore a fallen person whose fallen away from God
I have to say I either think about God(dess) or myself when I hear this song. You go girl.
I wish that we were at a place where we more worried about why and who people hate than why and who people love.
I love this song so much!
You sound great! I am so excited about your concert in Indianapolis on June 18th!
I think it is clear Jennifer knows her Bible. She, unlike some others here, also knows that being gay or lesbian are not the only abominations listed in the Bible. Lying is an abomination.. a proud look is an abomination... many many others too.
We talk, talk, talk scripture but how are we living it? Jennifer Knapp helped me to reconcile my love for God with the sin I still have.
A very wise friend told me I could never go wrong if I followed the red letters. Who is my neighbor? Jennifer Knapp and pretty much everyone else. I don't condone any sin- mine or your's. Christ calls us to love. He will do the judging.
ANN Linley you need love and we all need love. what we are is between G-D and oneself.✡
Ann I never said I agree with homosexuality either but we all have our own sin to reconcile with the Lord.
Dale Schuck I read your comment and right off the bat I like you. I am not gay but I surely am guilty of sin and I'm so glad that you were bold enough to point that out on open social media. May the god of peace be with you all the days of your life.
One of my favorite songs by JK. Love this song!
i can't stop listening to it.
Love this song
Wish i would have known she performed "that close to Indy". Love her new CD, just hoping she comes this way sometime soon! If you haven't listening to her new CD yet, it is marvelous...beautiful...honest.
thank you for this video
I love you Jennifer, no matter what your sexual orientation. You are an amazing talent and an amazing woman of God.
I love you jenn.
beautiful song, beautiful voice! I just bought the album!
one thing though,Can someone please delete these negative comments? Keep rockin!!!
tazzmachazz continuing....i love this song!
so thankful i now know the truth, and i feel so incredibly at peace with it. I never had peace with what i was taught. Never really accepted it. So i studied and studied and of course prayed until I did have peace about it. Thank you Lord for showing me the truth. please help others too...we have gay ppl everyday killing themselves bcuz of how they've been treated by christians.. Stop the hate! God is Love.
One of my absolute favorites, I am grateful for discovering this artist. I can't help comment about all the anti-gay, pro-gay, anti-religion, pro-religion comments below. All of your comments and rolling arguments are based on the fact that you think everyone should share your opinion, respect the choice of everyone to have there own opinion and subject no one to you own please. I would respect your comments more if you expressed your opinion on the quality of the song only.
...LOVE??? Isn't that what being a christian is supposed to be? Jennifer...beatiful beautiful..have helped me so many times with your songs...Thank you so much. Especially Hold me now...can't tell you how much i have felt like the woman thats about to be stoned to death..Let he without sin, cast the first stone if you will...wow. I am so glad that these christians aren't our judge, huh. lol..i am a christian, i just get tired of the ones that need to take the log out of their own eye...
Jennifer is allowing myself to reconsider returning to faith. I've been a fan of hers growing up. Unfortunately, Too many people feel they have to choose between their sexuality and God. For me, I couldn't just ignore who I am and nothing I did helped anything. Pretending to be someone who I am not caused me so much more pain and grief than any other thing in my life, and as a result, I walked away from it. I'm not saying I AM returning but people like her make it a little easier to think about.
❤
well I love J. Knapp !
Oh gosh, all the hate comments from "Christians"....Keep on holding on to your faith in Jesus ennifer Knapp, and ignore the hateful rhetorics from those who thinks they are perfect and righteous above all
to those that use the bible as a weapon and judge us do you not read and follow Matthew 7? It says not to judge of which you do. Me being a transsexual bisexual you are so quick to judge without getting to know any of us. Stop all of your hating on the LGBT Community and Jennifer Knapp. Jennifer is so amazing and a great role model of stepping out on faith showing us an example to be authentic and dealing with all of your hypocritical viewpoints on humanity. If you do not agree then step off your mountain and leave this is for those that love Jennifer Knapp and her songs. Piss off!!!
I voted your comment down not so much because I disagree, but because you used the wrong verse(s) to make your point. The whole argument about "judging" or "not judging" is missing the point. We CAN judge someone, based on their works or actions. It is called discernment. Now, if you want a few verses with which to make your point, try Mathew 19, verses 21 all the way to the end of verse 26. This is the famous (and often misused or misunderstood) quote where Jesus says that it is easier for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter heaven. Now, if you read all of that, and have an IQ of more than 60, you will see that this is NOT about rich people not going to heaven. It is about God's love and it is illustrative that we don't really know who will make it into heaven, but it makes it CLEAR that all things are possible with GOD. Jennifer is a lesbian and the Bible makes it clear that lesbianism is a sin. But in the verses I point out, Jesus made it clear that rich guys can't go to heaven APART FROM GOD. I truly believe that the same applies to sinners in general. Given these verses, and given the wonderful contribution Jennifer made in music, given that she penned those songs herself (those of her early career - wonderful songs that show a heart for the Lord), I believe that I know her heart. She has a heart for God, and given what Mathew 19 says, I am confident I will see her in heaven, as Jesus wipes every tear from her eyes; same as He will do for me. I truly hope that Jennifer does not believe the garbage being thrown at her. No one is out of reach of God's hand, and once we turn to Him and sign our heart over to Him NONE of us has the power to remove ourselves from His hand. And I have verses to back THAT up, too. ... signed, a right-wing Southern Baptist.
And my remark about an IQ of 60 is not directed at you, it is that my son has an IQ of about 55 and even he understands what I wrote above. I am simply saying that this is simple and fundamental - unless, of course, you listen to arrogant and ignorant (*maybe well meaning, but still...) people who read ONE VERSE in the Bible and then run off spewing that ONE VERSE.....
I was a bit torn on deleting some of these posts so since these comments mainly deal with Jen, I will be going by her rules. So here we go - My policy on deletes: only delete when specific abusive comments are made (re:others ie: "you are...) "otherwise, I am happy to leave personal opinions up so long as they are traceable/accountable posts. When sharing ones opinion, it can be illuminating to their perspective as it differs to others. It is important to let all be heard, with care.
As far as the concept of sin goes, I think it means missing the mark or making a mistake. I think that we are all learning what we need to learn and I will let the Universe or God or Goddess out what that consists of. Since we are actually animals, sex is the least of our sinning. I think lack of reverence for life and projecting our ideas onto others are mistakes that is destroying our world and our brothers and sisters on this beautiful earth.
This stone cold old atheist is here to tell you he loves this song. "Given every second chance..." Shivers.
BarerMender some of my best friends are atheists ✡
Jennifer, you know I love ya, rrright? :)
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH JEN!!!!!
Jesus is love. He loves me and Jennifer Knapp, even though we are gay. We should all ask for forgiveness when we hurt others, not when we love others- even if they are of the same gender. I am also a middle school teacher, a first-generation college grad, the oldest of four, and a deacon at my church. All of these labels are more important to me, and more indicative of who I am, than the gender of my fiancee.
@imaginnne13 please read above what i wrote. i decided to treat these posts as jen does on her facebook. i already went through and deleted many of them. :)
I hope this makes it to you Jennifer are you still Fallin do you think he shed his blood sugar you could send and still go to heaven the Torah still applies do you write your own lyrics if so what went wrong I’m a sinner nonetheless I’ve lived a life of debauchery but I’ve never been attracted to the same sex that’s always been the hardest thing for me to understand I have been discharged from the Marine Corps and married a girl from Okinawa Japan who betrayed me I knew all about Jesus but I never knew him and I just can’t understand how somebody like yourself can seem to have such a relationship through your songs and live the way you did it’s been a long time I was 25 years old and I have given my life to the Lord and I got into a relationship and it failed and I failed I am now 58 years old and I’ve only been clean since November 2022 I fell back into my life of sin crack cocaine and when I found out that you were when you came out as a lesbian my heart was broken I bought your first album when I was 25 between Glenwood Springs Colorado and Aspen at a little Christian store the album‘s name was Kansas and I found so much joy and admonition from your words and your music are you a girl who is gifted like you were I just don’t understand I just don’t understand I hope you are doing well and I hope that he has pierced your heart and you have given your life back to him your music still advised me today and I’ve been listening to your music now for the first time in over 20 years I swear I never listen to your music again but now that I’ve been clean again not for a very long time but I’m trying to get back to where I was with my savior I pray for you sister I pray that you come full circle and you found a good man and you for great children and that your gifts that he’s giving you go on them I hope to see you someday on the other side and meet you and maybe play guitar with you I had a severe crush on you and I hope to of met you someday but like I said when I found out things about you I was I was heartbroken like I was never heartbroken before the lyrics you wrote the lyrics you saying still to this day I can’t believe they were ripe with repentance and guilt and shame I love you sister I hope to meet you someday !amein
@wilkiewalker Get deleting some of these ignorant comments!
She always sings off to the side of her mic (like stage left) or away from it...Must drive her monitor tech or front of house person bonkers....Great voice though.
Sad that I read all these angry posts. Jennifer's music gave so much understanding to me in my own sin when I was in my early 20twenties. Her lyrics brought me to a place of repentance before our God always reminding me that He is my Holy Father, and that I can crawl into His "lap" and say I'm sorry at any time. I can ask for forgiveness and He WILL forgive. I believe she shares with us in the out pouring of the Grace of Jesus Christ. I am still a sinner. But only by the grace of God I go. I will not choose to offer truth with out grace. Instead, I offer both. The truth is that God outlined in scripture what sexual sin is. This includes homosexuality, adultery and fornication as well as sex with animals and children. These things are clearly sinful. However, when the adulteress who was caught in the act (hardly repentant at the time) was cast at His (Jesus') feet, what opportunity did He take? What point did He make? He did not take the opportunity to announce her sins before the crowd. Why? Because that was a given! Everybody already knew that part! BUT! He DID take these short moments to quietly and truthfully challenge those surrounding her with stones to kill her. He said, "Let he without sin cast the first stone" EVERYONE walked away. He said to her "Go, and sin no more" We all need to acknowledge our sin. Grieve it and repent of it. Place it at the foot of the cross and let Jesus say, "It Is Finished." I pray for everyone here to trust in the saving Grace of Jesus Christ by the shedding of His blood on the cross some 2000+ years ago. For me He died. For YOU he died. For US He rose again. Be Blessed
phenomenal response. God bless you
@bahanabrice
Matthew 9:13
But go and learn what this means: "I desire mercy, not sacrifice."
Jennifer Knapp -I pray regular that one day you'll be Jennifer Knapp and not Jennifer Knapp the gay chic. you'r a great singer songwriter and Kansas got me to you.I never knew you.But I love the more folksy stuff. Join the indie circle where the cool people are.we don't care.And I would love to hear you and amos lee lay one down.And please come to nyc. they have nothing on Nashville singer songwriter status but you can pep it up.
@bahanabrice What's even sadder is that people still actually think "hell" is real.
Newsflash....hell/hades is GREEK MYTHOLOGY.
@bahanabrice that's a dumb comment. Seriously! You are only a sinner when you go against yourself. When your not true to yourself which is an expression of God. How can you honestly refuse to see the gifts that she has comes from God. How can loving who ever you want to love, singing heartfelt praises and bringing people closer to God be wrong. It's a lie you've been fed to control you to make you judge yourself.
People, don't be ignorant. Don't assume you know for a fact that being homosexuality is a sin. You obviously did not choose to be heterosexual. Realize what you are saying. Realize that teenagers read this and see how hurtful the Christian faith can be and know that you can easily cause that teenager to go over the edge and attempt suicide. It's not fun being gay and to assume it was a choice is just plain ignorant. Please, just let people be and let them love God without fear.
@DoctorMatty The fact remains, God will never forsake nor leave you. The true image of God is finally being exposed after years of abuse. But ironically the darkness is good. The false prophet glorious; for without them the glory of the light could not be known. Let no man turn this bread to stone: 1 Corinthians 15:22 - "As in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive"
There are two in the field. Stones and bread; wheat and tares; The lamb and the dragon
The field is the Word
@DoctorMatty christ dieing on the cross caused him alot of pain as he had to reject life to take the punishment for our sin.. and he was innocent... but he still did it becaus he is love and he didnt want us to be eternally sperated form him. being a follower of christ and having faith in him is not about us.. its about honouring God above all our desires... and its not ever going to be easy!
blaming people for the actions of someone that clearly is not stable, to me is unaccepatble...suicide is a coward's way out of the reality...soul searching, through the mercy of GOD, not us is the solution, instead of self destruction...We tend to make plenty of excuses for ourselves, out of pity, while JESUS suffers for us all of the time, we continue to do the same damage to ourselves, instead of being remissive in CHRIST...We need to truly find repentence...
Judge not lest ye be judged. God loves all unconditionally. Do you think Christ would reject a sinner? If He came today he would be with motorcycle gangs, gays, drug addicts, metal thrash musicians and other "reprobates" of society.... the crowd he hung out with was NOT the cream of society. If God loves her just the way she is, who are you to criticize and pass judgment. Have you no sin? Then go ahead and throw a stone.
Being gay is choice. PERIOD. God doesn't create sin, but only allows it. And he sees every sin the same and love people still. He wishes that none will perish.
@DoctorMatty Jesus loves you. Anything anyone else tells you otherwise is a lie straight out of hell.
Respond to this video...On that day every knee will bow, every eye will see and every tongue will confess that He is God...even yours
I wish people could use the bible on themselves instead of always having to use it on others:)
So let me get this straight, being Gay is alright in Gods eyes? Did not the BIBLE state many times that having sexual relationships with those of the same sex is sinful. I do believe it does. So how can you justify living in sin, knowing that you are and be ok with it? I am not passing judgement, I question my own faith all the time but I do know what right and wrong is according to what God has laid before us and being Gay is wrong, you cant pray for forgiveness everyday and still live in sin.
And one more thing...i read somewhere on one of these websites of yours someone saying that in the bible it says that gay people will go to hell?? Ya, that's not there. What is there is participating in homosexual acts is an abomination. Do any of you know what abomination meant back at that time in that culture??? Look it up..not what it means today, totally different meaning back then.I was raised believing that gay ppl were going to hell, just couldn't accept that. God is of love.
Yes, homosexuality is a sin... but he without sin, cast the first stone. Just because she has sin in her life does not mean she is not a Christian. If we are honest we all have had some sort of struggles in one area or another. We should be praying for her instead of throwing stones. Correct in love.
BOTH of you need to calm down and remember who you claim to worship, Jesus, Lord of Love, who didn't come to condemn but to save. You are being so rude and pointing the finger at each other and it makes me feel sick. If someone who didn't know God came to this page and saw the way you two were talking, what would they think about Christianity?
Sometimes you're the only Bible someone reads. Love your neighbor, and your enemy. Please. Don't do it because I say to, do it because you feel it.
@ProphetRay I can tell by what you said that you're not someone worth having an intelligent converstation. All caps? How old are we? Anyways, plenty of proof has been brought up about the real reasons Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Try looking it up. Unless you're too close-minded to try to figure out answers for yourself...
Worshiping Jesus is just like believing in Santa Claus, it feels sooooo real until you realize that he doesn't exist, religion is a way people afraid of death comfort themselves.. Believe what you like , treat your complexes however you wish but don't preach that those who dont believe in Jesus or GOD are arrogant, because frankly so are you... As for gays, why would "GOD" keep making them if he didn't approve of them? Answer me that one CHristians!
@ProphetRay That's completely false. Gay sex isn't a sin any more than heterosexual sex is a sin. Get your facts straight before you start preaching hateful lies.
-In light of the fact that there are clear principals of exegesis which emphasize the role of theme& context, it's shocking you insist on this. It's clear from the words of the Lord Jesus HImself that the creation order was & is the uniting of man & female- that it is sinful & ungodly to agitate otherwise.This theme is established in the genesis account of the male/female relationship and later re- inforced by Jesus who also condemns divorce. Nowhere are men EVER called 'Echad'
so she has this incredibly heavenly voice yet she's doomed to hell.
glad i live in america and not nazi germany.....in 2011
No. You are currently being deceived. Plz pull away from this strong delusion. God is love. God does not approve of homosexuality. Wide is the road to destruction & many will go down it. Narrow is the way that leads to life (Matthew 7:13-14). Plz think about this verse.
Take your hypocritical self to your knees and ask God for forgiveness. Your sins are no better or worse than anyone else's. The sooner you get that, the closer to God you will be.
This gal has fallen big time! Even her voice isn't what it was? She is toast in the business and I hope she sees the error of her ways & repents? I think her arrogance did her more harm than the whole lesbian thing has done!
j.e. Witherspoon There is nothing Christ-like in being homosexual either so get a grip my friend. Too many people today want others to believe what they say or what they do is the right way or the right thing and it goes against Christ's teaching. If it's not exactly what Christ says, trust me when I tell you it's wrong! I've heard countless gays/lesbians claim they feel God is just fine with the way they are. It has nothing to do with feelings and I assure being homosexual is NOT alright or acceptable with God or any of His teachings!
j.e. Witherspoon You are a moron and deeply mislead. Read your Bible and study it. Don't just breeze thru the pages. This conversation is over.
Bernhardt Heckendorn
You seem to think that other's sins are worse than yours. You DO realize that you are as lost as Jen is, right? We ALL depend on Christ's redemptive work on the cross. He told us that NO rich man can enter heaven, yet, in the same breath, He said, "With God all things are possible." You have no way of knowing Jen's destiny, aside from cherry-picking verses. GO read Matt 7 again, or for the first time, maybe.
j.e. Witherspoon
Oh so many believe that "gay" or lesbian is a choice and that the choice is, therefore, made "in God's face". It is those who honestly believe that Jen is a lesbian by choice. I do not believe that it true at all. But those who do have no logical option but to condemn Jen, and that is what BH is doing. PRoblem is, logic and the human mind do not go together - but BH can't see that, or does not want to.
***** Let's get one thing straight from the beginning. To live a homosexual lifestyle IS a choice and both medical & metal sciences have proven that over & over. Those of YOU who chose to believe otherwise, there-in lies the problem. Have a nice day!
@cm14pink well said, sister!