MA v Karen Read Day 31 Recap: Closing Arguments | Killer or Cover-Up Murder Trial
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2024
- Is #KarenRead a killer girlfriend or the scapegoat in an elaborate cover-up? #CourtTV's #VinniePolitan & experts are breaking down today's closing arguments as deliberations are underway.
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You're a big disappointment ... entertaining corruption within the legal system ... not the man we thought you were.
Krowski a defense atty? He's the reason the innocent see prison.
❤ Innocent ❤
58:00 Kindly inform ~ why wasn't what she said to her father brought out in the trial? Why was he not subpoenaed?
@@govindagovindaji4662 to say what. that his daughter just suffered a traumatic event and with her existing health issues he worried for her safety? I know I'm not Mr Read but there you have it. The only deception going on is with LE.
I don't understand why this case has drawn so much attention.
RIP John O’Keefe
I feel for those poor kids and the rest of John’s family. Regardless of who killed him they deserve the truth and to find closure. John also deserves justice..
I was appauled to see Officer O'keefe's mother share a laugh with a seat companion when Proctor had to repeat the vile commentary proctor had made about karen's health issues and her private body parts ALONG WITH OTHER FILTH ONLY LOW-LIFE SCUMBAGS GIVE VOICE TO. HOW DARE SHE LAUGH! LOW-IRISH; CERTAINLY NOT LACE CURTAIN!
Not at the price of a innocent woman. If the O'Keef family want Read convicted even if she didn't do it, then they are as bad as the disgusting actions of the local police.
They know the truth. What they need is justice. Karen Read is guilty and will be convicted. She may not be convicted of the worst crime because all jurors may not agree.
John was no angel! He had children at home and he was mad at Karen for trying to take care of his children!
This trial has turned into justice for Karen Read, a good man died, he deserves justice. Justice for John O'Keefe.
All of this should be a lesson on the dangers of alcohol consumption. Condolences to the OKeefe family.
Alcohol is good and fun it’s better feeling to drink then it is to be sober. Alcohol makes for having a fun and good time. Alcohol makes you funnier and happier and better overall. You might have a hangover but overall it’s great to do. Don’t say anything bad about alcohol. All of the USA drink alcohol and it’s accepted and promoted by everyone. Alcohol is a good idea to drink. Most car accidents involve only sober people and rarely people on alcohol. It’s not the alcohols fault it’s the person making a dumb decision. If someone can’t make right decisions on alcohol it’s their fault. Don’t blame the alcohol. Don’t say stupid stuff about alcohol when you don’t know nothing about it. Alcohol is what everyone looks forward to especially during celebrations and parties. And during all sporting events and vacations. Alcohol is something humanity loves to drink. You say something dumb about alcohol and you will have someone come against you and fight against your ignorance just like I am right now. Alcohol provides fun during social situations and allows people to be themselves and not be anxious. It helps people go to sleep. Alcohol helps during business meetings and with meeting with clients to strike a deal. Alcohol does it all, boost in mood, boost in confidence, and boost in sociability. It lets people unwind and relax and get away from their job. Everyone looks forward to drinking once they get off work everyday. It is the reward you get for working everyday. It is the motivation to go to work and to work your job because you know you’re getting off and able to enjoy that nice cold frothy beer or maybe some hard alcohol and feel satisfied and happy about your life and about your job. It lets you feel like it’s not that bad. It does that for all Americans. Don’t ever say something dumb like that again about everyone’s favorite thing that makes them happy .
Alcohol is good and fun it’s better feeling to drink then it is to be sober. Alcohol makes for having a fun and good time. Alcohol makes you funnier and happier and better overall. You might have a hangover but overall it’s great to do. Don’t say anything bad about alcohol. All of the USA drink alcohol and it’s accepted and promoted by everyone. Alcohol is a good idea to drink. Most car accidents involve only sober people and rarely people on alcohol. It’s not the alcohols fault it’s the person making a dumb decision. If someone can’t make right decisions on alcohol it’s their fault. Don’t blame the alcohol. Don’t say stupid stuff about alcohol when you don’t know nothing about it. Alcohol is what everyone looks forward to especially during celebrations and parties. And during all sporting events and vacations. Alcohol is something humanity loves to drink. You say something dumb about alcohol and you will have someone come against you and fight against your ignorance just like I am right now. Alcohol provides fun during social situations and allows people to be themselves and not be anxious. It helps people go to sleep. Alcohol helps during business meetings and with meeting with clients to strike a deal. Alcohol does it all, boost in mood, boost in confidence, and boost in sociability. It lets people unwind and relax and get away from their job. Everyone looks forward to drinking once they get off work everyday. It is the reward you get for working everyday. It is the motivation to go to work and to work your job because you know you’re getting off and able to enjoy that nice cold frothy beer or maybe some hard alcohol and feel satisfied and happy about your life and about your job. It lets you feel like it’s not that bad. It does that for all Americans. Don’t ever say something dumb like that again about everyone’s favorite thing that makes them happy .
JUSTICE FOR JOHN O’KEEFE!!!
By framing the wrong person! A bunch of irresponsible adults hanging out drunk right before a major snowstorm. Carrying a drink in his hand from a bar while he has children at home! Letting Karen be the mother of his children and complaining about the way she is talking care of them! He was no ANGEL either!
Justice for Sandra Birchmore
@@susankeene2785 also, we know they're framing him but we don't know why they actually killed John. I don't think it had anything to do with Karen. He knew something and they didn't want him talking.
He is the victim, and deserves justice.
@@susankeene2785 but she’s pretty evil 😈
Justice for John O'Keefe & his family! 🙏🏼❤️
I feel weird and sick that there’s a man dead and people are cheering in the streets! Let’s not forget the victim!
People are cheering for justice…… thank the Albert’s, McCabes proctor and Tully
Agree imagine being his family and knowing who did this is actually trying to get off and blame innocent people for what she did she’s a sociopath thinking she’s a rockstar now .
Well thanks to the police/ investigators Karen Reed became a victim as well.
It’s really an icky feeling.
@@brittanyjojo715 John will never be forgotten. And I hope there are others to help get justice for John and his family once this has passed by. I do too feel it’s a bit excessive. But an innocent person deserves to be heard.
She only said that cuz they told her she hit him.... She was grief stricken and they were telling her she hit him.... The evidence was clear... He was attacked by a dog and physically attacked not by a car
Somebody ask Kevin how that lady put a 600 pound car on a human being and he has no broken bones.
7,000Pounds
I wrestle with my dogs and I get the same scratches if not worse scratches. He was popped in the back of the head by a blunt weapon
@@mylesbishop1240I think he fell on some workout machine in the basement and knocked his head.
I think he bled out and so they replaced all the flooring down there
YEAH JEN STARTED IT...WITH HER CONSTANT BATTLE STANCE ATTITUDE....IT STARTED WITH YOU ARE COMING WITH ME(IN THE PUB)
There were absolutely no bruises on the entire body, it's impossible for a car to hit you with no bruises, and then supposedly toss you in the air 30 ft where the landing would certainly give you more bruises.... at 15 mph you should have splintering of the bones and damage to tendons according to the medical examiners 2 days ago, I can't see the car doing this.
His eyes were pretty bruised up
No, John's eyes swelled from bleeding on the brain. John did have a bruise on the back of his hand that was holding the glass because that is where Karen Read struck him with her SUV, and this is what caused the dent on her SUV to the left of the taillight
@@bethpatriots7290 correct
@Tess-163 The bruised eyes are "raccoon eyes", and are a symptom of a skull fracture from blunt force trauma. Like a Lexus hitting you.
@@bethpatriots7290yet there was no scientific evidence to prove this. Did you miss Mondays day in court?
So Lally is going to stand there and say that Karen Read was hammered drunk yet was able to Back her vehicle (without swerving) 64 feet backwards in the snow at 24 MPH and hit OJOK? Several people have tried to recreate this while stone sober and couldn't do it. I guess Karen is an expert driver after she has had 9+ Drinks. The hair was frozen? Did it freeze on contact? Did the tail light fragments freeze in place on contact? No blood on the car. No tissue on the car. The CW's own witness stated there were 2 (read that again 2) strains of MALE DNA on OJOK's shirt. BA never comes out of his house, remodel's the basement, gives away the dog, destroys his cell phone and sim card one day before they were to be put into evidence, and sells the house $50k below market value. COG sounds like to me.
Lally should have mentioned the drunkeness bac and extended estimate during closing. I dont beleive he did today. I might have missed it.
Karen read actually has professional driver training from her 3 letter agency employer
@@bethpatriots7290 that’s kind of training doesn’t help if you are a drunkard
@@Rescue21emt maybe she planted her foot on the gas instead of the brake
@@Tess-163you'd know
Lally big on technology when it suits his weak narrative but conversely questions or disputes the tech when it goes against him. What a knob.
Worst prosecution ...
Worst prosecutor with no evidence and it smacks you in the face the whole entire guilty coverup of those two families and the MSP
You have to be an ER doc or ER nurse? Anesthesia? Great name...lol
@@shaunb93291thanks! ER nurse can give anesthesia if the ER doc orders so. Legally we cannot independently administer such drugs.
Ever
Yes EVER😅
Mr Jackson's closing argument was very well done, he and Yanetti and Little did an outstanding job! Great observations here, thanks Vinnie!
Where are Karen Read's tears for her boyfriend? There are none. Oh wait she cried when they said how drunk she was. If she was evaluated, I believe she would be seen as narcissistic, she loves the attention outside.
OJOK’s “dear friends” didn’t even go to the funeral 😂 stop reaching lol
Shes busy fighting for her life to cry
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣That guy is crazy af saying that a phone registers hills as steps🤦🏼♀️🙄 Geez anybody with common sense knows that is NOT right!!!!
And phones can spontaneously delete things like calls or texts 😂
If there was not a basement in that house I might think hmm. But there is and it blows my mind how they see all this evidence and still try and say she’s guilty
Snow photos shows no one dragged John out of the basement in foot of snow and dragged him to the area where Karen was last seen by 6 witnesses. Also Ford edge is covered in snow in driveway close to garage, no tire mark in driveway. Obviously it was never moved to street plow guy said. Also, he said he had to go around it to plow. No evidence it was plowed around
Photos prove he was lying. Snow is a witness. Impossible to plow when there is no snow, his time line is a lie.
I found it very rude that Karen's brother chose the exact moment while the prosecutor had his turn to speak to get up out of his seat to do whatever. If I noticed the distraction, I'm sure the jury did also. Funny, how he sat very attentively through the defense's argument.
No one wants to listen to him lol even the dirty McAlberts walked out
I almost fell asleep lol not only was his speech laughable, but he’s a boring speaker. The boot remarks were hilarious. So ridiculous. 😂
That’s not rude that’s what happens when you have to go to the bathroom. It would have been rude if he took a dump or peed or both in the courtroom
You found that rude? 😂 I would've taken that time to take a nap if it were me.
@@michellesayers5346 it's called having respect. The O'keefes had to sit through the defense. How many times have we all been in situations where we had to use the restroom in an important meeting or at a special event and just held it? I sure have! I will stick to what I said, it was a rude time to choose. If he had to go that bad, why not get up during the defense. Y'all who are younger than I have apparently been raise without showing respect. We did not even get out of our seats when the preacher was up. I'm glad I was brought up that way. To respect someone else is called integrity.
The defense never suggested a conspiracy.
They said she was framed. There is a difference.
CONSPIRACY TO 'RATHER' FRAME
The defense called the disaster they created a conspiracy.
That is a conspiracy.
They conspired to frame her.
@@spookshow6999😂😂😂 Dui..angry girlfriend who said I hit him!! Hair stuck in car....
Everybody needs to just STOP with "an exact" timeline. Just go by last person to be seen with him. Only person who changed her mind over and again throughout time. It could easily have been an accident in a drunken black out, but again, she was the last person with him. The state should not have overreached.
Silly
You clearly didn’t watch the trial
@@stacyeandrew2 The exactness of it all is a mystery is all I'm saying and everyone should acknowledge that. There was no evidence presented that pointed away from Karen, though. Have only that to go by. The frame job hypothesis simply doesn't hold water. It was used as a defense simply b/c it's the fastest route to imply reasonable doubt. It was used as a strategy, that's all.
“Look the other way!” 🤡🤡🤡
“The exactness of it all is a mystery” = REASONABLE DOUBT = NOT GUILTY!!!
😂😂😂 Stoooop ittt! 😂😂😂
So these ppl didn’t even attend John’s funeral but yet they showed up at the CLOSING arguments to either intimidate the jurors or TO hear what will be said about them!!!! Hilarious 😅
Exactly! 😂 Don't start acting like yall gave a f about him now. Embarrassing 😅
All the Alberts and McCabe attended John's funeral
Of all the cases I’ve watched,she is by far,the worst judge,I’ve ever seen.
She's not the worst I've ever seen, I have seen worse than that believe me!
agreed
Judge Frances Gull in the Delphi murder case is the poster judge of BIAS! She is a piece of work. Worst of the worst! She doesn’t even read the defense attorneys motions! She just denies everything they try to present for their client, and stands in the way of due process and defies the law!
Putting an innocent woman in prison for life won't bring JOK back and isn't justice at all.
She "ll get manslaughter at most, even if. Dui, leave scene of accident .
Im assuming she has a clean prior record???.
JOHN WILL BE SLIGHTED JUSTICE EITHER WAY. IF SHE DID IT OR SOMEONE ELSE DID.
@@Gle7799 ok
But putting his killer away will give the family closure, and keep Karen from killing the next guy.
She is not factually innocent.
She not a stupid individual , hopefully after this is done she Sue's the both police departments and the state , take every penny ! Don't settle low , they are trying to frame you , make it hurt ! And sue the individual officer Proctor
She will be facing a civil lawsuit from the O'Keefe family. And charged with obstruction of justice, along with Toilet turd
She gave him confidential information, 40 hours phone. There's zero evidence she was framed.
Sorry, there is no evidence that she has been framed. There is abundant evidence that she framed them. She will face a civil lawsuit for the death of John. And, she will have to be deposed. She will also be indicted for interference of justice. Over 40 hours communication with Toilet turd, who already has been arrested and out on bail.
RIP John and peace 🕊️ for your family 🕊️🤍🕊️🤍🕊️🤍🕊️
Hopefully the FBI will how deep the corruption is in the police department.
Hi all from Canada 🇨🇦 Not guilty.
I can’t believe how far this case has gone
Oh yeah A not guilty!🤠⛱️🇬🇧
I'm watching the Alberts when the defense is giving their closing arguments. 😂They are skirwming. I think endictments will be coming soon.
He got redder the longer it went on couldn't stop twitching getting dry mouth and in the end he just wanted to get out of there the pussi
When I saw the Alberts and the McCabes, I got chills. It felt like when a murderer goes to their victims funeral! Just saying. That’s what it was giving.
Yes! Creeeeeepy!
VERY!!!!
And supposedly they don't even know each other. .. yeah sure
Don’t trust your intuition it’s way off beware of that
Isn't it just as creepy that from what has been stated that KR did not attend JO's funeral? Her boyfriend! Something is off there!
Now to investigate The Albert’s, The McCabe's, Proctor and Tully. Justice for John!
🙏
Lenk and the chief and bukake 😂
@@michellesayers5346 didn't Lank admit to helping the Albert's like 20 years ago too? 1 of the Albert Brothers got into some bar fight...Also that 1 of them left the scene of an accident & followed the trail of car fluids straight to their property?
@@russianaloha4576 yeah all scum and Chris Albert killed a young exchanged student dui and only got 6months jail lol its disgusting
Stop....no reason for ALL these people to murder him! Angry gf karen yelling I hate you john! Drunk and his hair in stuck in car....
Guilty
Take Kevin off this panel!! He’s absolutely delusional!! Not a reasonable thinker at all
The reason why people are so passionate about this case is because they can see themselves in Karen Read. There are plenty of people who have been wrongly convicted and have not had the means to defend themselves. That’s why you see people outside on the streets. Some of those people could have also been wronged by Canton police or know of others who have.
Exactly! Just ask the victims of officer Zachary Wester. Unconscionable!
I could never see myself as a Karen Read !!!!! I have more self control and respect ! My drinking is at a minimum especially in public settings!
@@melb2258👏
@@melb2258 🍪 here’s your cookie!
I car hit me while crossing the street. He was going at maybe 20-25mph, in an old american car. The cars that actually had a bumper, not the plastic ones that we have today. I flew on the sky and fell on the ROAD. Not on grass. I got a bruise of about 8in in my hip and broke a tendon on my arm. No head broken, no blood anywhere.
Oh! To add, he didn’t stop. He didn’t even realized he hit me until all downtown was around me, while I was lying on the road.
How do you know he didn't drop the phone in the snow Mr smarty pants!! After all Jen McCabe called Jon several times after Karen left.!! Maybe they were looking for his phone. AND ! Jen McCabe states she watched the car outside until 12:50 !! So she didn't see an accident!??? We know that's not true , because Karen was home at 12:36
Yes and the girls say they flipped him over, but did they really???
That 3 minute variation is poppy cok
Absolutely!
Apple health data is not credible. Its a marketibng ploy in part. It is flawed. Stairs or bouncing around. Really??
No professed eyewitnesses erther way.
If this comes down guilty then the jury didn't do it's job. There's just way too much doubt.
This is not even a real murder trial the one of those made for tv trials bro when I see her samiling and stuff doing her trial I knew this whole thing is fake and they knew they already the out not guilty the joke is on your people who thinks this real 😂 and yes they use courtroom for fake cases example the OJ Simpson miss was all a hoax the police chase and trial was all made for tv real Hollywood murder movie trail everybody in that trail played they roul the judge the attorneys they knew the outcome was going to be for OJ Simpson not not guilty the whole trial was a complete mocking to both race white and blacks who they have fighting with each saying he not guilty and guilty when both race nothing knowing the trail is fake 😂OJ Simpson was doing the same thing smelling look at the camera during his whole fake trial
zero doubt like the OJ case. Don't be so stupid to believe in this nonsense theory with 30 people involved!
Oh if TB says so.. omg, i fear for humanity. What about common f$& sense people
Who's TB?
Which side are you on? Guilty or not guilty?
common sense is when you get hit by a 6000 lbs. car you would have bruises, fractures, and damaged ligaments. No bruises are on the arm which supposedly was struck by the taillight, and no broken or splintered bones. People who do not understand how the human body is built and who do not understand physics are willing to send an innocent woman to jail. John O'Keefe was not hit by a car.
@@KH-3414 A blogger and serial adulterer.
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Imagine being in Karens position,, if she hadent have the money she would be in jail right now...
Watching from Sweden 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪 and love these public trials...
NOT GUILTY
Absoltely !!! I am so psssd
I quit using a smart watch because it counted hand movements as steps. If I was on the jury’s I would not count it in my decision.
And it updates later. I've seen it on mine.
Those arm wounds are the most glaring thing that stands out to me. No way did they come from small pieces of taillight plastic.
Especially with no blood found in tail light
I was backing up. I struck something. Idk what it was. -Karen Read
Yes she hit John’s car when she backed out of the driveway
Correct. It was John’s car.
It was a who, Karen, the guy you called a pervert after you struck him and left him in the freezing snow to die.
Notice how all the Talking Heads are so quick to describe Proctors text messages as nasty despicable grotesque etc…but when it comes to describing KAREN READ’s Nasty, despicable grotesque texts AND rage filled voicemails they never throw descriptive adjectives in there like they do when talking Trooper Proctor
There are so many examples of bias in the way media is covering this case it’s nauseating
Because nowhere in Karen’s messages did she say she was going to kill OJOK. Plus she isn’t a civil servant like Super Trooper Proctor. In Super Trooper Proctors texts, he not only breaks policy by talking about a case, but he also stated “She is fucked” along with the following:
After some discussion, a friend wrote, "I'm sure the owner of the house will receive some s---."
Proctor responded, "Nope, homeowner is a Boston cop, too,"
He also took a bribe:
Lally brought up a text message that his sister sent later on, after talking to Julie Albert: "When this is all over, she wants to get you a thank you gift."
Proctor replied, "Get Elizabeth one," referring to his wife.
Ppppssshhhh Jen macabe is a big liar
I live in England and when I saw this she was telling lies because she lost it a few times . Why would anyone run into there sisters and brother laws bed you knock the door down .
@@user-ip6pt4zr7p Liar
Liar
When a so called reporter acts more like a starstruck puppy dog in love w the defendant you know his “reporting” is going to be 🐩 💩
How do you make 54 calls plus 3 to parents, 4 to katie camarano, 4 to Kerry, 3 to jen while asleep? Yet none to 911. Her anger voice mail doesn't sound like she cares. Karen knew exactly where John was.
I do wish that Kevin would be quiet. His arms must hurt so much with all that reaching.
I really thought Lally was a dope but hes a snake. Really hope the jury does the right thing here!
Lally went to high school with the Alberts and McCabes. Jenn McCabe was Jennifer Weeks back then. Her and Lally were/are friends.
Yes...they will convicted Karen...heartless cold ex
Well, I found Lally very polite when he was crossed...A.jacksonon the other hand, was very condescending and rude. A.jackson, a little hedious man, who choose to defend, not only Kevin Spacey but also Harvey Weinstein...who's the snake??
@@kabra72 Lally
@@lindafinch1520
That's why I said how could Karen get a fair trial if all these people are against her before gathering all the facts and we all see how corrupt some of those police officers are smh
Is Kevin from yellow snow cottage cheese the best you could come up with? 😂😂😂
I think Karen probably did do it. She looks and acts like a Karen. She has really disrespected the court the judge and Jackson should be careful with this one. She sounds like a crazy person in those messages. She thinks this is a fun thing? Laughing making faces, I am glad the judge went after her. A MAN is DEAD. REALLY LOOKS LIKE SHE CARES. Does her attitude count for consideration cause if so she might be in trouble
Well said
The defense made a very impacting closing argument. I can't believe this case even made it to trial with the evidence the prosecution had never seen such a ridiculous case.
College professor is really stretching it. She was an adjunct instructor teaching for a pittance.
Stop it you azzzz. Who cares what she does. She’s innocent
@@Caldonia130 she hasn’t got a PHD that she likes people to believe
What does any of this have to do with a murder? Y'all are sad as.hell
Ahh don't be jealous it's not her fault you have an unfulfilled life, how about supporting a woman who has been framed by dirty cops and dirty women
@@erkaderka3571jealousy
This case reminds me of O.J.Simpson and Casey Anthony. The attorneys create doubt and that doesn't mean the person is innocent.
He says two different things on his live Vinny rolls with Karen and then on court TV. He rolls with lollygag
Someone would have gave someone up here. Too many people to hold up a conspiracy like this
For now... They will start singing when the FBI takes over
I completely agree with you! There's no way someone who has a conscience would not rat someone out after 2 years. That's too heavy of a burden to keep secret.
It’s not a conspiracy- she was framed! There is no way, with his head injury that would have rendered him immediately unconscious, to end up where he did on the lawn on his own. If he hit his head on the curb, he would have been laying there. If he hit the grass where he landed, it wouldn’t have caused the head injury, if his head was struck in the house, he would have fallen there & had to been moved outside. Thats the only logical explanation for what happened to him and where he was found. Then add in the dog wounds. Couple that w the ME & the fbi accident reconstructionists. There’s no other way than he was in that house.
@@kathystclair9485
I think you Are assuming one of those people has a conscience. Try keep in mind things like these happen where nobody talks ever or IF they do, it's on their deathbed. On some cases 20-50 years later...
@@kathystclair9485 Just wait until they are all investigated, then some will be singing like a canary.
I liked Lally the whole time. Straight to the point and matter of fact.
Straight to the point?? I could not disagree more.
omg, your comment made me laugh out loud. That poor guy is still insisting she hit him with the car even though it was proven by real reconstruction experts and medical examiners his injuries are not consistent with his injuries.
Man, your comments are all over this vid, but this one really shows you either didn't watch or are arguing in bad faith. Even people who think shes guilty have no problem admitting Lally is anything but straight to the point.
You crazy or related to lame lally😂
Got to be sarcasm😂
I think John O'Keefe was probably not a good boyfriend.. and that's why they fought all the time.
But Karen did not kill him. The Brian's did.
Did the defense ever address Karen saying "I hit him, I hit him " at the scene?
Yes in trial. Jen McCabe on cross testified this is her “new” statement and hasn’t testified to this statement once before in any police interview, grand jury, or to the FBI grand jury by Jackson. Discredits her now.
Higgins didnt want to hear the truth today
incredible to see "mcalberts" sitting in the courtroom during closing arguments ..
As an MA resident I have LOVED watching your nightly wrap ups of this case! My entire family watches you now, your insight is amazing! Great show keep it up
I think she did hit him but she doesn’t realise she did cos she was drunk.
She is not guilty, they showed no evidence
seems you didn't follow the case but a rediculous conspiracy theory with 30 people involved.
@@sandscorcher3332seems like you haven’t been following closely enough. This is a cut and dry case, everyone knows she’s not guilty. Look at the evidence.
Wow how did Lally have so much to ramble on about that he went over the allotted time? How awkward!!
Prosecutors done a terrible job
They didn’t have anything to work with
Now if they go after the family and friends in that house?? They could get a conviction easy if they even tried
I still can’t figure out what happened but there are too many questions left unanswered !
And that my friend I reasonable doubt so not guilty
Being a Legal Beagle for Years in the Military, I have Never seen a more intent and flagrant Coverup. I await the Charges against the individuals who played their game with the prosecution. Quit arguing about Time, while No one on either side could Explain the GPS or the Steps. Still waiting to hear about How the damages of Victim’s Arm rationally explained and How No Injury to the Legs and/or body’s trunk sustained No injuries in the Prosecution’s explanation of how the victim was supposedly struck, Especially when they saw Hit And Back over after the hitting of the individual. And The Pieces of the Taillight show up from time to time, over a week later…with the Rain or Snow melt is Ridiculous. Judge Demanded too much, interference and what seemed Bias.
Let us remember that the prosecution opening said 12:45 a.m. is what time OJO was hit.
Opening statements are not evidence. He gave an estimate.
@@emilyhampton1432there's no estimation in proof beyond a reasonable doubt
@@emilyhampton1432he fkd up 😂
I thought it was Absolutely wrong the Prosecution was cut off. They have the most to prove and should have had a longer closing. That’s typically the way it would go!
What a circus!
I want to know….where was the blood, aside from the six drops in the solo cups!
Cleaned up off the floor of the weight room in the basement of Brian Albert's home
Yes in the basement
Blood can never be cleaned up, luminal will always find it. Blood came forward to the eye sockets mouth and down the spine column
When Kerry gave CPR, blood was forced out his mouth. No evidence of him being in a fight.
What does he mean is turtleboy your source? Turtleboy broke this entire case
Ppl like him hate facts and anyone who calls out bs
Made up BS for money
Fired from teaching job and arrested for domestic violence and arrested for obstruction of justice. Out on bail
All his groupies cheering outside court, bunch of losers, no job or life
All the Alberts and McCabe attended John's funeral
Simply rotate John O Keefe’s “injured arm” picture 180*
Looks like John raised his arm over his head to protect himself.
He did not get killed by a car. He was alive when he raised his arm to protect himself from the dog.
He could have fallen back and stuck his head in the fall.
What is missing? PROCTOR TROOPER 😅
Perfectly defense blaming everyone else but the defendant seems to be working no way that this many people got together and decided what the story would be Karen did it not sure whether murder or Manslaughter I just hope that after the jury looks at the evidence and makes the right decision however I do feel as though the defense has muddied the waters enough to establish reasonable doubt and Karen will go free so she can connect to put her nose up in the air alot og murder are committing for jealousy control and anger and with the message that she left behind she had all there's no way that cops would kill one of their own brothers and then be dumb enough to put him outside of the front lawn just knowing that Karen was going to drive by looking for him why would she even go looks for him when he didn't come home hes a grown man im sure that she was worried because she suspected that she may have hurt him
I know why no one leaving 34 Fairview saw JO lay dying in the front yard, it’s simple, he was still flying through the air, he hadn’t descended yet from his 30 foot launch after KR struck him with her 6,000 pound SUV she drove 24.2 MPH in reverse for 63 feet, drunk as a skunk, giving Dale Earnhardt Jr a run for his money, driving ability wise. JO was still in orbit when everyone, including Lucky Frankintruck, didn’t see him. Case closed.
I shouldnt be giggling, but here we are
Made me laugh damnit. Also, may justice be served for JO and Karen.
@@Evelyn-minouxOxymoron
Questions for the Karen Read supporters:
1. If she sent him in “to make sure we’re welcomed here” then why would she leave him there?
2. If she watched him walk into the house why would she wonder if she “may have hit him” ?
3. If all he did was not come back out, why wouldn’t she call the police?
4. If all he did was not come back out, why did she leave him a voicemail at 1am calling him a pervert?
5. If she woke up at 5am and searched the “2 square miles” for 20 minutes then why did she not see him out there?
6. If she saw him “immediately” when she went back with the 2 women then why did she not see him the 20 minutes she “looked” for him on her own?
You’re going off emotions. The evidence doesn’t line up. He wasn’t hit by a car. I’m more wondering why the butt dials, deleted phone calls, rehomed dog, destroyed phones, manipulated evidence, no blood on car or lights. It goes on and on. Framed.
@@BangsOrNoBangs Sir, these were statements made my karen read on camera so i am asking genuinely since these are contradictions of her state of mind and what she herself said.
Well said @@alovesayslove
Framed....😂😂 She was angry and fighting with john even dropping him off as he wanted to get away from her! Hair stucknin car, broken glass and her own words....i hit him. Guilty
I hope they indict that entire police force
Hopefully the FBI is going to do something
🙏 amen 🙏 I pray they all get booted from their “duties” not only did they frame her they drove wasted in a police car and lost their police weapon that night they drove drunk in the police car !!!!!!! WTFFF OS GOING ON IS CANTON MASS POLICE DEPARTMENT 🆘🛟🍞 🧈 those 🐷 🐷 🐷 🐷 are bacon 🥓 or better be / Karen reeds innocent .!!!!!! Love you mz reed
Not for the murder....karen is guilty.
@@colettejaques2559 wake up no she isn’t… when I see comments like this, I just think of complete stupidity.. There’s no way anyone can believe truly that she did it… not to mention I’m a dog attack Survivor and my arm looked identical to his… shame on you!!
My grandfather was a police officer in London England and would be appalled by the lies and deceitful rubbish of the quote, on quote of the commonwealth
The US the best system of justice? That's just laughable im sorry to say... Americans really have some problem with self hype or Dunning Kruger....
I honestly don’t think there was a cover up. It was just a lack of investigation. She thought she did it, and they decided to take that as a quick way out.
There seems to be a thorough investigation going on in the background via the FBI. Their experts have impressive resumes, so I’m interested in seeing the rest of their investigation.
@@SabritasPicosas we’ll see. I’ve seen feds covering their people. If the fed guy is involved (which is my hypothesis) nothing will be done by the feds.
This trial should never have taken place--- NO EVIDENCE---9 WEEKS!!!
COPS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED!!!
Plenty of evidence against Karen read zero evidence someone framed her . About that?
Are you really that naive to believe there are 20 to 30 people involved, who all hate John? OMG!!!
@@sandscorcher3332 No, I don’t believe in 20-30 people involved in a conspiracy. I do believe that 3 really corrupt cops tried to cover up an event. I believe if this case had been properly investigated KR would never been prosecuted because John was not hit by a car. I believe DrWolfe. He is what I expect from a proper investigation.
@@sandscorcher3332 Are you that naive to believe one word from Proctor? Or from Bukenik? Are you so naive as to trust in Trooper Paul’s reconstruction? Because Paul is a moron.
@@sandscorcher3332 yes! 85% - 93% of people do! Get over it! 😂😂 go look at all polls!
I was taken aback with the Alberts & Jen McCabe sitting with JO’s family. Literally in the company of snakes that killed their son.
If she’s found Guilty, what will her sentence be?
Not a doubt in my mind that John was NOT hit by any vehicle!
We don't know how he was hit...but the taillight was broken and no one had his body x rayed, we don't know if he had some small fractures...but he for sure had a very damages head injury! He was not in a fight, his clothes had ONLY his DNA on it. So something happened with that car.
She has been "framed" 😂😂😂 What a BS!!!
If I hear the word Sallyport one more time
After listening to the REAL experts (medical & engineers), I then sided the innocent (not guilty) verdict for the defendant. I was not totally convinced the fact that only a tiny hair(?) and DNA of John (mixed w/ unknown DNA's of other people). And listening to the inconsistency and conflicting statements of the CW witnesses and their "I don't remember" or "I don't recall" answers, is just as frustrating as listening to CW's "experts". I didn't get a clear answers (as to how, why, when) to rhe crime scene and injury of the victim! In this case, I don't rely mmy questions being answered with DNA alone. After listening and finding out the dimeanors of the investigating team of this case, I felt that DNA is not the smoking gun. In this case, I felt DNA can be planted by these bad cops. I want to know the Medical Examiners, experts in the field of Pathology to show and tell John's injuries. And a real experts, scientists & engineers to reconstruct the whole crime scene (victim's injuries, car as the murder weapon, and evidences). A real clear explanation and picture of it. To see and find out if the victim's injuries are consistent of the car's damage. Cause before the real experts came (3 scientists/experts of the Defense), a really honest Witness (snowplower), the Medical experts (also the Medical examiner of the CW), everything about the whole case are questionable, I felt the CW was chaotic and making me more confused.
DNA alone is not enough proof in this case. It's the Science and Physics that shows the truth, cause DNA can be planted by corrupt, dirty investigators. So I say the defendant is innocent. It's sad that there's still this question in my mind as to how and why the victim really died.
Nick.get some glasses
Get a brain
NOT GUILTY
🛑 Replay:
I drive an Amazon van
ALL DAY LONG DRIVING & WALKING making deliveries.
I have an Apple phone, MY PHONE DOES NOT COUNT DRIVING AS STEPS!!
No matter what the road conditions are!
Innocent for Karen Read & RIP Offcer John,O Okeef ❤️🤍💙🙏✌️
🙏 🙏
Oxymoron
The chrome is what is the difference on the left and right side of the lights..in the picture of the ones with the snow..
I don’t need no GPS to find her guilty. How come she could know he was dead at 5am? Why she didn’t call 911 and saved is life? I hope the jury is more intelligent then Jackson thinks.
Unfortunately, I don’t believe that’s going to be the outcome. They were done when Proctor was on the stand. He ruined this case so bad. They can’t look at any of the evidence without believing it was all planted. Jackson already planted that in their heads.
Well said yes he has
You can tell this isn’t about Karen Read but police corruption and people are fed up.
Thats all that need be said: WILL JOHN OKEEFE GET JUSTICE?
I thought that they gave them 1-2 hours to do closing statements. I didn’t watch it all but I’ve never seen a judge give them one minute and then stop them.
Right at the beginning she told the jury that each side had an hour and that they asked her to let them know when they had 5 mins left.
All the polls are showing average 87% NG. I feel there’s a good chance she will be found NG by the jury. At worst, hung jury.
Remember, if the verdict is not guilty, that does not mean innocent. It means with the charges that the jury has to vote on is limited in this case and that they may find there is not enough proof. So, a Not guilty verdict will mean nothing to me. If I were on that jury and set her free I, for the rest of my life wonder if I gave the right verdict of Not Guilty.
@@kathystclair9485 Don’t really need you to school me up on what the definition of a verdict means. Thank you for responding anyways. 🙄
Karen read told Natalie B. Wiweke that she is paying $3000 a month to public relations firms for those social media accounts. The polls are meaningless
Karen is not guilty
She is guilty. That’s a fact. Whether she’s found guilty is another thing. Dumb people everywhere
Good thing the judge put a limit on closing arguments or we would still be listening to lally 😴😴😴
I feel terrible for his family. Those kids orphaned again! I don't know that we'll ever know what happened. But, I find the Karen Read/turtleboy circus quite unbecoming. If she didn't do then God bless her I hope she goes free. But, the smiling and laughing during the cross examination was just gross.
Gott sei Dank lebe ich in Deutschland. 🇩🇪🙏🇩🇪