I was about to call bullshit on this because I read "No reason to throw the spike ball", missed the NOT for a second there, sorry lol But yeah, most people don't know edgeguarding, they just wait and at best they try to ledgetrap -_-
Piranha Plant is in the superheavy weight class with a weight of 112, the least of the group. This places him at 8th heaviest of the cast. "Plantgang" is heavier than everyone except, Bowser (135), King K. Rool (133), Donkey Kong/King Dedede (127), Ganondorf (118), Charizard/Incineroar (116).
No, hes at the top of heavyweight class not able to step up to the super heavyweights, it wouldn't make much sense for him to be a super heavyweight cuz those r the big bois of smash and piranha plant tiny asf
@@omegalilbchass8270 Yeah, I saw that classification later. Heaviest heavyweight. A tiny superheavy would be weird but cool. There must be concrete in that pot/pipe.
It is pretty weird. He is a heavyweight with a lightweights moveset. (His normals at least, the specials are definitely what you would expect from a heavy)
nuetral b is a great anti-air, edgegaurding, and combo tool, but its a pretty shitty projectile otherwise. Side B is more conditioning and also a pretty bad projectile unless you get a hard read or they are at ledge. You use it to mostly bait options and use it in specific places. Not really in nuetral because they can just run out of it. There are plants that use it. You just have to find them in other videos. I've seen it.
also against zoners you really aren't gonna get very many nuetral b or side b. Plant doesn't do very good vs zoners because they can just run away and outzone you easily.
@@mehgamer467 I think you hit the nail on the head with this. I guess my play style with him involves a lot of baiting and I feel like you can get really creative with that. Just sitting at the ledge while people are trying to recover high and holding neutral b in the air has gotten me so many kills lol.
Against close-range brawler types like Capt. Falcon, Plant's Side-B tears them apart since it forces them to try and jump over the poison cloud (which makes them predictable) or just risk the damage (at which point you can grab-and-jab, the poison doubling of even tripling the damage they take).
I’m so glad at these new legal stages because of the music. I feel like Cynthia’s theme is a much better theme for a game 3 than anything Smashville has to offer.
Would be great if Nintendo would just enable any music any stage for tournaments; otherwise they need to make tournament versions of each map which removes the kinks that make them undesirable. I figured the first one would just be easier.
No. P-Plant will always remain as he is, a joke, over-hyped pile of trash that will appear for a few stocks, get its ass beat, and then be swapped to a better character.
Zack Shippage that was definitely a waveland. You can tell because of the slight slingshot that happens during the air dodge animation, plus the white flash to indicate invincibility.
@@Brawltendo there was no white flash to indicate he was invincible, that was his boomerang flashing. First guy that responded was right it was a falling b-reverse.
Can we all agree that Piranha Plant's back air should be nicknamed "kiss of death". Basically Plant looks like he is kissing ya, and if it hits, it kills.
I wouldn't say weak more like premature. He was using heavy commitment with smash attacks instead of nuteral b. As a plant main myself you get more reward in early and mid percent using nuteral b. Otherwise he was using the other special's pretty good
@@sayoricult1961They have different layouts and shape for different feels. The buttons on both controllers are completely set up differently, I'd just recommend looking it up on Google and seeing which one you like better, because everyone has their own preferences :)
Don't care what anyone says. Piranha Plant is NOT bottom tier. He's just super unique is all. Can't play him like any other character. He's got utility for days. Smoke screen that does massive damage and can be used for zoning, blinding opponents, and covering options. He's got the spike ball which has decent option coverage, can cover two out of three techs on a knockdown. Also can be useful for forcing specific recoveries as well as punishing. Not too great with it myself so I can't give details on how to push that tech further but someone can I'm sure. And his down b is wild. Super armor and huge hitboxes. His dash attack is solid but it can also be used (sparingly) defensively as it moves him faster than even his dash can. Most of, if not all, of his aerials seem like bangers. But 3 of his special moves also have incredible mix up potential as they stall his fall speed. All things considered, he's got huge damage and great kill options. Not great speed wise and his up B recovery feels pretty trash but I get the sense that if someone REALLY gets in there and labs him out, P.Plant is a force to be reckoned with. Thoughts?
Oͥmeͣgͫa Zelda (tetra) was kidnapped in phantom hourglass how could she posses one in hourglass and that when Zelda was erected from her body in tracks
How did the knight from Kaze at 17:16 not hit, would have been his victory easily. The sword is literaly inside of Link, slashing him in half. Kaze must be sad as hell.
Could've killed the plant so many times the first match with short hop down air. I know it's a risk but if you can get it right its YLinks best kill move
I love Young Link and I think he’s really good, but he really seems to have a lot of trouble killing. It kinda sucks, but his moves are very fast and his projectiles are extremely good.
totally agree, most of my loses are because my opponent kills me at 70-80% (oh hello there Ganondorf/KKrool) while he's still at +150%... The neutral air kills but it's hard to land
I'm pretty glad plant's kit isn't too good. It's the smallest heavy in the game by far, and also has the best recovery out of any heavy in the game That alone is insane. If it had one of the better movesets in the game, Plant would be ez top tier. Regardless though, it's moveset is really unique and good enough to still make the character worth playing
@@kennethkjen1996 It's the 8th heaviest character (112 weight) in the game. Even heavier than Snake (106 weight) who is considered a heavyweight character, not just slightly above Mario.
@@kennethkjen1996Actually, Piranha Plant is classified as a superheavy with a weight of 112. Mario's weight is 98, which is middle weight. Edit: Kuregane hammer has Piranha Plant as the highest heavyweight and not superheavy.
I feel like this young link should use his down aerial more often if he is just going to land next to the opponent at least use something to secure your landing a little more
Down b is probably the best move in the game and noone use it.. I just spam all the time with spike ball and got 4milion gsp in one day.. 150 matc 120 win.. these pro player can t use the real power of p plant.. why use dash and normal attach when they sucks? Just spam poisom grab, poison spike, poisom down b.. easy 0 to kill
I love seeing this peek at the potential of Piranha Plant. i can't wait to see how far this character can go
Lovely seeing you here
Bruh I think you're becoming the next Justin Y. I see you on so many random videos, it's weird.
No reason to not throw the spike ball when they tryin to jump back to the stage
mr Tree I was screaming at my computer every time link was off ledge
I was about to call bullshit on this because I read "No reason to throw the spike ball", missed the NOT for a second there, sorry lol
But yeah, most people don't know edgeguarding, they just wait and at best they try to ledgetrap -_-
This is Smash after all.B)
Im sure he had his reasons.
Yeah the spike ball is really good for edge guarding
0:36 Young Link's two kicks went along perfectly with the beat
No it didnt
Piranha Plant is in the superheavy weight class with a weight of 112, the least of the group. This places him at 8th heaviest of the cast. "Plantgang" is heavier than everyone except, Bowser (135), King K. Rool (133), Donkey Kong/King Dedede (127), Ganondorf (118), Charizard/Incineroar (116).
No, hes at the top of heavyweight class not able to step up to the super heavyweights, it wouldn't make much sense for him to be a super heavyweight cuz those r the big bois of smash and piranha plant tiny asf
@@omegalilbchass8270 Yeah, I saw that classification later. Heaviest heavyweight. A tiny superheavy would be weird but cool. There must be concrete in that pot/pipe.
Piranha Plant has no business being as heavy as he is. He's a friggin plant in a clay pot.
It is pretty weird. He is a heavyweight with a lightweights moveset. (His normals at least, the specials are definitely what you would expect from a heavy)
Why is Ridley so much lighter than a potted plant, lol.
I feel like I haven't seen any piranha plants use neutral b and side b as much as they should.
I was thinking the same while watching
nuetral b is a great anti-air, edgegaurding, and combo tool, but its a pretty shitty projectile otherwise.
Side B is more conditioning and also a pretty bad projectile unless you get a hard read or they are at ledge. You use it to mostly bait options and use it in specific places. Not really in nuetral because they can just run out of it.
There are plants that use it. You just have to find them in other videos. I've seen it.
also against zoners you really aren't gonna get very many nuetral b or side b. Plant doesn't do very good vs zoners because they can just run away and outzone you easily.
@@mehgamer467 I think you hit the nail on the head with this. I guess my play style with him involves a lot of baiting and I feel like you can get really creative with that. Just sitting at the ledge while people are trying to recover high and holding neutral b in the air has gotten me so many kills lol.
Against close-range brawler types like Capt. Falcon, Plant's Side-B tears them apart since it forces them to try and jump over the poison cloud (which makes them predictable) or just risk the damage (at which point you can grab-and-jab, the poison doubling of even tripling the damage they take).
THIS is how you play Piranha Plant. Only things he didn't do enough was hide in the poison cloud and he didn't use the spiked ball enough.
Spike Ball KILLS
A good spike ball is basically a smash attack you can throw at your opponent! Why take the risk of getting into melee range?
Facts!
Ethan Oden Good point.
The spike ball is unsafe, especially against a yink
The plant died when the timer hit 420. He was holding out for the right moment.
I’m so glad at these new legal stages because of the music. I feel like Cynthia’s theme is a much better theme for a game 3 than anything Smashville has to offer.
Would be great if Nintendo would just enable any music any stage for tournaments; otherwise they need to make tournament versions of each map which removes the kinks that make them undesirable. I figured the first one would just be easier.
Dresden Kilnik You mean like making FD, Battlefield, and hazardless versions of every stage? I mean if that’s not “removing the kinks”....
What's an Omega stage right?
The plant gang needs more practice
Plant gang will rise up
Yeah like in match 2 the piranha plant kept trying to use f throw or back throw to kill so he should've used up throw the strongest kill option
No. P-Plant will always remain as he is, a joke, over-hyped pile of trash that will appear for a few stocks, get its ass beat, and then be swapped to a better character.
@@1trevor30 You've been bodied by one online haven't you?
@@1trevor30 TRIGGERED
Best Piranha Plant moments: 0:44 1:39 2:35 5:00 6:38 9:29
I really liked that waveland as a mixup at 2:55, seems like it could be put to good use by characters that have good wavedash lengths.
Zack Shippage that was definitely a waveland. You can tell because of the slight slingshot that happens during the air dodge animation, plus the white flash to indicate invincibility.
@@Brawltendo there was no white flash to indicate he was invincible, that was his boomerang flashing. First guy that responded was right it was a falling b-reverse.
@@swizzbeatz2075 He's talking about the plant, not the Young link. Plant definitely wavelanded.
Super close final game. Wow, great job to the both of them.
Link vs one of the monsters in the first area
Deku Baba you uncultured swine
Re
Came for Plant, Stayed for Zelda. That last match was great.
He was a really bad Zelda to be honest.
don't think he understands that spike ball is better than all other moves
So does YL have no grab follow ups? PP just kinda shielded and won neutral
That neutral back and forth starting from 7:30 onward was literally insane. I felt like I was watching a Dragonball Z fight.
what a close fight dude, i loved it ♥
Can we all agree that Piranha Plant's back air should be nicknamed "kiss of death".
Basically Plant looks like he is kissing ya, and if it hits, it kills.
Could also be called Hot Lips because of the fire/explosive effect....and let's face it, Plant's got some kissable lips, wouldn't you agree?
@@useraccount333 DSL ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
But does it beat king k rools croc bloc and dks expand dong?
Cptn. Viridian He got DSL
A real sucker punch right there.
Honestly that Plant’s performance was really weak. There are so many times he could’ve killed with neutral b.
Same with the yink tbh, there were so many down smash kill opportunities
Yeah, seriously, he needs to use neutral b more
Announcer:(In low tone)Failure...
I wouldn't say weak more like premature. He was using heavy commitment with smash attacks instead of nuteral b. As a plant main myself you get more reward in early and mid percent using nuteral b. Otherwise he was using the other special's pretty good
10:41 Is that Bob from Tekken on the left? xDD
Young Link player is on point. Really solid spacing and good kills props to Tico
Kazenoko is the ONLY Ultimate player I've seen in a tournament with a pro controller
Zachray, best player in Japan and top 10 at genesis uses pro controller.
nice, what about you? what controller do you use?
Oh, same
@@vano507 I know im gonna sound dumb saying this but whats the difference between a regular gamecube controller and a pro controller?
@@sayoricult1961They have different layouts and shape for different feels. The buttons on both controllers are completely set up differently, I'd just recommend looking it up on Google and seeing which one you like better, because everyone has their own preferences :)
3:03 "Man is sent out of the stadium, he's sent _pakkun_ "
Please tell me that was intentional
Sounds like it wasn't :( but one can wish
I know Young Link is a projectile player but can his down tilt combo into a forward air effectively
yes.
True Link cut down Pirahna Plant like he was farming Deku Sticks. Baba o rly
Was this before his P. Plant leveled up and learned the neutral b skill?
The poison breath is insane, I've broken a couple shields with it, and it hides what you're doing under it
Awesome Match!
Don't care what anyone says. Piranha Plant is NOT bottom tier. He's just super unique is all. Can't play him like any other character.
He's got utility for days. Smoke screen that does massive damage and can be used for zoning, blinding opponents, and covering options. He's got the spike ball which has decent option coverage, can cover two out of three techs on a knockdown. Also can be useful for forcing specific recoveries as well as punishing. Not too great with it myself so I can't give details on how to push that tech further but someone can I'm sure. And his down b is wild. Super armor and huge hitboxes.
His dash attack is solid but it can also be used (sparingly) defensively as it moves him faster than even his dash can. Most of, if not all, of his aerials seem like bangers.
But 3 of his special moves also have incredible mix up potential as they stall his fall speed.
All things considered, he's got huge damage and great kill options. Not great speed wise and his up B recovery feels pretty trash but I get the sense that if someone REALLY gets in there and labs him out, P.Plant is a force to be reckoned with.
Thoughts?
Piranha plants really GROWING into the meta game.
Hahaaa I'm casumpetitive
A tunneling success.
Living the pipe dream.
chlorophyll? chloroKILL.
I'll stop now.
The ComeBack
Damn son, kill confirms exist ya know
(Literally when Anything happens)
Link mains: time to use the boomerang and arrow
How do you grab with the chain with young link
At 5:34 in the background on Ticos side that looks like call me Carson
I like how kazenoko taunts a lot at the beginning, even actually during the fight, and then how he's defeated at the end. Karma
What exactly is the main difference between PS1 and PS2
the knight?
THE KNIGHT?!?!?!?
that is zelda in armor from spirit trACks
thnk u v much
Phantom*
Fucking amateurs man
Oͥmeͣgͫa Zelda (tetra) was kidnapped in phantom hourglass how could she posses one in hourglass and that when Zelda was erected from her body in tracks
@@richpichu1272 where did you get tetra?
@@Sk801Erik yes but what i was referring to is a phantom from spirit tracks and phantom hourglass, but i severely doubt that tetra is in there
How did the knight from Kaze at 17:16 not hit, would have been his victory easily. The sword is literaly inside of Link, slashing him in half. Kaze must be sad as hell.
Good to see Plant is very viable.
I was bored because they weren’t trying to absolutely murder each other.
Can't wait till Hammer Bros and Goomba Tower become dlc.
Young link mains be like "it's not spamming its zoning"
Ultimate don't have combos like Wii U?
Who was team kaze
smash is the only game where you find a young man being played by middle-aged men and plants played by humans
Why the heck did he not use the ptooie
This piranha plant definitely needed to get off stage more, or at least used spike ball more as a edge quads tool
Could've killed the plant so many times the first match with short hop down air. I know it's a risk but if you can get it right its YLinks best kill move
Oh boy Plant in tourney
This piranah plant is good but no where near the potential of the character
17:17 that sword def hit young link but didn't count
Considering that the spike ball is as strong a richter/simon axe, you think people would use it when they wanna kill...
As a Young Link main, the first game pissed me off
5:48 *SOMEONE FINALLY SAID PEEPEE'S NAME RIGHT*
plant boi: "feeeed me"
dam that match was so intense.
Why do they always play on the same map...
Being above a Piranha plant is terrifying... As it should.
I love Young Link and I think he’s really good, but he really seems to have a lot of trouble killing. It kinda sucks, but his moves are very fast and his projectiles are extremely good.
It's the players that has trouble killing
BitchChill No a lot of Young Link’s moves kill at high percents. Especially compared to other characters.
If only young link had a solid kill move.
beeen sayin this for a while now!
totally agree, most of my loses are because my opponent kills me at 70-80% (oh hello there Ganondorf/KKrool) while he's still at +150%... The neutral air kills but it's hard to land
Djayk Lmao this ain’t melee, melee players aren’t any distinctively better at Ultimate edge guarding then anyone else
@@TheBHNetwork they really are
Perfect example of young link being bad at KILLING
When kaze switches to Zelda, he fails to adapt to the arrows and I was cringing inside...both players need more practice with edge guarding
9:24 Oh he has no kill throws huh?
Plays piranha plant. Doesn't use Ptooie... WHY??
Oh thank god. I thought this was Kazunoko. Imagine if Kazunoko played Smash competitively.
How dare you take the name of a fighting game legend
i like how it’s old people playing this game xd
Young link is actually good but has a couple of weaknesses that makes him not the best
I'm pretty glad plant's kit isn't too good. It's the smallest heavy in the game by far, and also has the best recovery out of any heavy in the game
That alone is insane. If it had one of the better movesets in the game, Plant would be ez top tier. Regardless though, it's moveset is really unique and good enough to still make the character worth playing
Its Weight is sliiiiightly above mario. How is that heavy?
Piranha is at best a medium weight lol
@@kennethkjen1996 It's the 8th heaviest character (112 weight) in the game. Even heavier than Snake (106 weight) who is considered a heavyweight character, not just slightly above Mario.
@@kennethkjen1996Actually, Piranha Plant is classified as a superheavy with a weight of 112. Mario's weight is 98, which is middle weight.
Edit: Kuregane hammer has Piranha Plant as the highest heavyweight and not superheavy.
@@jeffreysherman8224 where does mii gunner, wario, and doctor mario fit in that list by chance?
What's this guy wearing a hair tie around his wrist with no hair
I think he's way too heavy. That's his main saving grace atm
Kaze should have used his Up-B more for Zelda. He could have punished the projectile spamming.
Finaly, pirana plant in competitive smash
A high tier link in a smash bros game? i must be in wrong timeline
5:57 Me too dude. Me too.
I feel like this young link should use his down aerial more often if he is just going to land next to the opponent at least use something to secure your landing a little more
6:26 excuse me *K A Y L O S ?*
Any other greninja mains loving going vs piranah? Free counters 24/7
That read 1:40
It's not a knight. It a phantom, and it contains the spirit of toon Zelda
Yea but saying knight is easier and that's we what most people call it
3:44, makes me laugh for some reason
I thought it was kazunoko...
I got baited too it's okay
Same
He doesnt play kids games hes a man.
so did one of the commentators apparetly
i've never heard of kaylos befor
My main n pocket batteling it out. Slightly disappointed by both performances but hey i enjoyed the matches
Shaggy for smash?
was 100% sure that zelda would lose before even finished...
character>skill
No one use up air juggles with pirahna plant its pretty good
Piranha plant as a character that's good.
Is the homie drinking a Budweiser ? Lol nice
I main piranha plant and when I side smash my brother off the edge, he knows he's dead
R.O.B. bullies Piranha Plant
So does KRool
So does anyone who can deflect or absorb proyectiles
1:39 omae wa mou shindeiru
1:40 nastyyyyy
I find it weird how they are using Nintendo Classic controllers
Piranha Plant??? WTF!!! Who's bright idea was that?
You're meant to save the princess
that kalos pronunciation broke my ear drums
Down b is probably the best move in the game and noone use it.. I just spam all the time with spike ball and got 4milion gsp in one day.. 150 matc 120 win.. these pro player can t use the real power of p plant.. why use dash and normal attach when they sucks? Just spam poisom grab, poison spike, poisom down b.. easy 0 to kill