Bill O'Reilly FREAKS Over 'Black Friends' Question
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- "Fox News host Bill O’Reilly lost his patience with guest Kirsten Powers on Tuesday while accusing both her and liberals of unfairly painting the US as a racist country.
“I have to wonder why you can’t see what’s happening, because most Americans are not racist,” the Factor host told her. “They’re not.”
“So how many black friends do you have?” Powers asked. “How many black friends do you have?”"
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You know, when she asked how many black friends Bill had, he could have just said, "I refuse to dignify that with a proper response because I don't feel that the number of African-American friends that you have is a good metric for measuring one's level of racism" or something along that vein. But instead he just got all loud and defensive like he always does, smh. When somebody refuses to answer a question, even indirectly, it's usually a sign that they know there's at least something wrong with what they said.
***** any examples?
Don Quixote Hey YOU! I didn't know you watched the YT!
***** elaborate
PlanetBlue where have you seen me before? lol
***** The so-called non-racists are the people who use black people as tools because they only have token black friends to make themselves feel better about how non-racist they are. Actual "racists" aren't obsessed with skin color and will have black friends.
Bill O'reilly about his experience at a Harlem restaurant in 2007;
"I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship."
"There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all."
Yet he claims there's no racism in the country. Riiiiiiight.
Exactly
Andre B Bill is also a wife beater. He's a hypocrite and a liar in every sense of the word.
***** You can search it online it was from O'reillys radio show and it was publicized lol. He also said "Black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves.
They're getting away from the Sharptons and the Jacksons and the people
trying to lead them into a race-based culture."
Which is hilarious considering it was Al Sharpton who invited him to eat at the restaurant in the first place lol.
Is this a joke or had he actually said this because I thought it was all made up until I read the last sentence.
Andre B He's so obviously racist its disgusting.
The day the Reily O' Factor ends; is that day we should throw a parade in the middle of the streets.
Damn right
emotionzdepress nah watch some how he'll keep it going after he dies. we'll have to listen to zombie bill
Master Chief Why the bother comenting on a channel you don't like?
emotionzdepress The devil you know is often better than the devil you don't. You have no idea who they'd get to replace him and they could be even worse.
emotionzdepress
That day will be made a national holiday.
Kristen Powers is amazing to stand up to Bill O'Reilly who was totally shutting down the conversation trying to prevent an useful discussion.
Bill was completely correct on that. This is Bullshit. 👎
Another Dumb TV Bitch Kristen Powers. 👎
Woman: "There are a lot of people in this country who are racist."
Bill: "You said most Americans are Racist"!
He does that a lot. Jon Steward told him that more of his viewers think Obama's a Muslim than believe in evolution. Bill then asked where he got information saying most of his viewers think Obama's a Muslim. He then talked over Stewart until Jon gave up.
the tricks you use when your peddling propaganda. Literal proof of bias.The FEC needs to get involved with this trash
Bill O'Reilly also went on to say in response to Powers' question - "I love black people! I think everyone should own one---er---I mean have one!---uh---as friends that is! Dammit, missy, I covered the Civil Rights Movement with a pen, a ballpoint pen I might add, so don't question my racism---I mean lack of racism---as in I don't have any! I didn't fight in the Falklands to come home to this!"
Yeah...Self proclaimed America war hero....!People should remind Fox of this ...
Ronin Dave That should be an SNL skit.
Ronin Dave
That was fucking *gold*...
Ronin Dave haha, that was funny.
Ronin Dave damn funny
I love Kirsten Powers! She managed to piss Bill O'Reilly off so much that he can't think straight
nytehawx even on his best day Bill can't think straight though hun. :D
I think he was getting pissed because she was calling him racist. If someone called me racist I know I'd be pissed.
Otk_Obelisk
he was getting pissed well before that and if he didn't have racist thoughts he wouldn't have gotten so angry. If someone called me racist I'd be mostly confused not outraged.
nytehawx
I DON'T love Kirsten Powers.
She did an okay job on this clip, but she's a DINO sellout. She writes columns for the odious NY Post and wrote a book titled, "The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech".
Does THAT sound like someone liberals should support? She's a fucking hack who sold her soul to Fox News. She plays a pseudo-liberal on Fox, but she does it poorly.
nytehawx She should have gotten up, walked to Bill's studio and punched him in the face. There is a reason Bill's audience is primarily the age 59+ demographic. Its because Bill is the angry old white male that yells how everything was better in the past and he gets to yell at younger people for being disrespectful and stupid.
usually when said young people are the opposite.
@3:05".....so you want a nirvana, a perfect country where everybody is open minded and benevolent....." IS THAT SUCH A BAD IDEA BILL?
Justin M To a racist, yes.
Justin M Not a bad idea, just unrealistic. I_I
Lol. I literally said out loud, "and you don't?!?!"
Justin M
It will never happen,
Justin M It also means the next time he moans about something (war on Christmas, Christian "persecution" etc) that exact quote can be thrown back in his face.
Every single point she made was valid. She ripped him apart so gracefully!
Agree... Gracefully
"You want a perfect country where everybody is open-minded and benevolent"
Yes, obviously.
Niko Bellic Why is that a bad goal to have? It doesn’t mean that literally everyone in your country would be that way but that should be the ideal.
Bradley Ward Sometimes people use the fact that you can’t completely eliminate [bad thing] as an excuse to continue to an activity that makes [bad thing] worse.
I don’t think it’s difficult to see how this applies to the racism discourse.
Why is Bill o Reilly still on TV?
***** but you are still here commenting this channel. So what does it say about you loser?
chris garbutt Because Were Still Waiting For A Few More Old People To Die......Any Minute Now....
White America
bairon C Really dude? Most white people fucking hate Bill O' Reilly. I don't even know one person of any race who does like him.
chris garbutt because of racist, waste of flesh and bone people
The problem is a lot of the ardent Confederate Flag supporters will not admit that those flags on capital grounds were raised in defiance of desegregation and Civil Rights in the 1960s so the people who see that flag as racist have a pretty damn good reason to do so even more so than its connection with the pro-slavery nation of the Confederacy.
The self-denial of conservatives in the wake of shootings of unarmed black men and teens by police (and self-appointed neighborhood watchmen) and the shootings of black church members by a Confederate-flag-loving US-flag-burning racist-rhetoric-parroting psycho has been astounding to say the least.
This will all just be added to the history of the gradual mental meltdown of rightwingers in this country of the early 21st century. I believe historians will look back at the bizarre reaction that Obama's presidency evoked from conservatives with amazement and bewilderment when they consider:
*A number of conservatives who accused Obama of being foreign born with a foreign father and thus unfit for presidential office supported another foreign born candidate with a foreign father for president.
*Southern conservatives accused the Democrats of creating the KKK and the Confederate Flag while ignoring their grandfather's robes in their closets and fiercely defending that Democrat Confederate Flag by placing it as a bumper sticker on their truck next to their old "Bush/Cheney '04" bumper sticker.
*Conservatives screamed that liberals always play the victim card then around Christmas play the victim card on the war on christmas and the war on christians in a country predominately christian.
*Many conservatives screamed that Obama wanted to enact sharia law then turned around to propose christian sharia law against abortion and gay rights.
*Many conservatives screamed Obama was trying to destroy the country then conservative politicians in DC shut down the government because they wouldn't compromise while having the largest number of filibusters in US history.
*Many conservatives hailed a tax-evading rancher and his armed posse of random anti-government militia members as heroes for pointing guns at authorities to protect trespassing cattle then said an unarmed black teen shot 6-8 times by a police officer was a thug who had it coming for swiping $50-smokes and allegedly charging the officer.
*Many conservatives wanted the country to go back to God but when the head of a major Christian religion urged assisting the poor like Jesus actually said while not hurting the planet they turned around and called him a Marxist and the most dangerous person on the planet.
*Many conservatives financially supported businesses that refused to serve gays but didn't help a fellow Obamacare-hating conservative when he was in danger of becoming blind due to his state not covering a part of Obamacare.
*Conservatives complained about government spending by Democrats then wasted money on endless hearings about Benghazi that went nowhere while having ignored the attacks on embassies and consulates under the former President.
*Many conservatives openly admired the dictatorial leader of a former adversarial country who openly discriminated against gays, used military might to invade former territories, and squashed free speech.
Yes, historians will need to become psychologists to deal with all the self-denial, cognitive dissonance, lack of self awareness, paranoia, and projection swirling around US conservatives of this time period.
Ronin Dave The scary part is, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Then there's the "pro-life" conservatives who do everything they can to make life miserable for the children of the middle-class and poor, including denying them life-saving health care, the "Christian" conservatives who actually believe "freedom of religion" only applies to their specific faith, the "constitutional" conservatives who refuse to accept that the U.S.A. is a secular country despite the first amendment, and refuse to acknowledge that "a well-regulated militia" does not mean every individual psychopath who wants to shoot a bunch of school kids, the "anti-regulation" conservatives who think the government has no role in policing the marketplace but supports them policing everything that happens in people's bedrooms and what women choose to do with their own bodies, and so on and so forth.
I've said this to many of my friends: If you want, you can raise the Confederate Flag. Hell, you can raise the Nazi, ISIS, KKK, or Communist Flag if you want. But do it on your own time and your own property. Whether you think it is or not, some people see that flag as a racist symbol, myself included, and I do not want my taxpayer dollars going towards it.
Also, to your second point, it's always hilarious that Republicans consider Reagan to be their patron saint instead of Lincoln. I think that's because they know he was a liberal.
Ronin Dave Plus fuckin' one
Ronin Dave The large part of the republican party is not the party of the people, if you've seen their record or any interviews with them they never have an idea on how to actually fix a problem like health care they just don't want Obamacare.
Of course O'Reilly has black friends; Stephen, Uncle Ruckus, and Don Lemon.
Lmao! You forgot Deneen Borelli!
Red Meth He's friends with Obama too. They've spoken once or twice, the president has to be friendly too
Red Meth Looooooooooooool
Red Meth hahahahaha who's stephen though? lol
john doe Sam Jackson's character in Django
How many black friends Bill? 😂
Marvin Moore II zero.
How many friends of any colour?
How many does it take too not be a racist ....?
@@mauricematla1795 It doesn't take any but not having one when your that popular on tv and live in this society says a lot. There's a lot of black people in this country for you not to have at least one friend is kinda weird.
still didnt answer how many black friends he has. Been dodged that question.
Why do people try to reason with Bill? Like come on it's like talking to a fucking brick wall nothing is going to change him.
Bravo, Kirsten Powers. I grew up in the 1950's, saw the racism first hand. And in in 2016, is it better, yes it is....but is it still there? Absolutely! I had a discussion with my mother about racism in 1980 when she said..."I don't have anything against black people; I even let one in the house once". This is what the discussion was about in 2016, and I have to ask, have societal attitudes really changed? I think not. It just isn't expressed as openly today as back then. As some one else wrote "O'Reilly is so racist is he doesn't even know the difference anymore."
lol he tried to dodge that black friend question lol
It's absolutely hilarious how mad he got, lmao.
Bill O'Reilly should watch Zootopia.
if he did he would hire someone to shoot berries at black people
THIS! xD
oh man I can't breath lmao what's the berries gonna do?? xD
So then how hilarious is it that because Trump won, all your democunts are in the streets crying, so upset they had to miss school, rioting and tearing up property & literally falling apart hahahaha
B Real Nobody said two wrongs make a right bud!
Bill O'Reilly, the king of logical fallacies.
wait..how does having black friends automatically make you not racist!?
***** yeah I kinda see your point-it may indicate something about one's character, or at the least, about where they live/who they live around.
auh..yeah!
+Sandra Hopkins I think she was hoping he was going to say "yes", to which she'd respond along the lines of "have any of them ever experienced racism in this country?". Not that having black friends makes you not racist. And flipping the phrase around, not having any black friends doesn't make you racist either!
Actually her asking him if he had black friend was in reference to hr wondering how many honest conversations is he having with people he knows personally that may or may not experience systematic racism on a daily basis ... 💁
Does not automatically makes you a racist. She sense something in Bill because he took the discussion so personal. That's why she ask. I have a lot of white friends and they get annoyed how my wife and I are treated so differently then them. But if they didn't have black friends they wouldn't know how there a clearly racist people out there.
Sometimes I feel like they don't let the Fox Anchors out of the studio, because how someone can be so blatantly misinformed is beyond me.
My thoughts exactly.
I'm not big on symbols. Mostly because of the human tendency to place undo importance on them by confusing the symbols with the things they are meant to represent.
But there are some symbols that represent reprehensible acts, and the worst parts of human nature. Those symbols are often used as weapons to intimidate, and remind particular groups of societal attitudes towards them.
It's hard to find credible the assertions of those who say that what the symbol represents is no longer of any concern, when the symbol itself remains as prominent and potent as ever.
Michael Powers My thoughts exactly.
Kristen, I admire you.
Bill lived in the bubble all his life!
big mouth Bill O'Reilly still a ràcist republican the party of Lincoln is now the Bill O'Reilly party of hate. and the Confederates flag that Lincoln had destroyed..
💀👻👾
William Flickinger
Not much one can do but ridicule people like him. Republicans have lost the ruder a long time ago! Sad really, isn't it?
if you have to say "I´m not a racist" - then you probably are
Ive noticed that when bill seems to start to look bad he claims the other person is attacking americans.
This segment is a chilling foreshadowing of why a certain Duck is running for prez.
my dog is black so obviously im NOT racist!! smh
+¯\_(ツ)_/¯ #blackdogsmatter
#alldogsmatter
+John Wetzel this comment sums up the republicans
that comment was racist you dumb bitch
...which comment? Or are we being racist against Republicans?
why is he allowed to talk to his guests that why....fox needs to be ashamed of themselves
am I the only one who lives and in America that doesn't think that its CRAZILY filled with racism? I mean I live in a small city and for sure there is older people who are racists. But they are very little compared to the amount of people who act like normal people and go on about their day and have no problems with other races. I don't treat anyone different based upon the color of their skin, or the actions of their ancestors. I don't see why this is blowing up so much. I feel as if the media is making this a larger issue than it really is. ( obviously racism is a issue ) I've heard some of the most ignorant things the past few days such as: you cannot be racist to a white person, because you are white you are racist. I'm not sure about anyone else but I live in a real world where I guess I just don't see racism being the biggest of all of our issues. in fact I'd go as to say racism is a issue that will never completely go away. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Maybe I will learn something ( being as I am only 16 and live Near Canada )
Alter I must agree. But I have to add that racism can be veeeeerrrrryyyy subtle. Like the first thought when you see an Arab or African American at the local grocery store.
Alter what race are you?
Alter It depends on you experience, I suppose. I took a road trip from South Florida to DC earlier this year. Immediately, I felt uncomfortable is certain parts of the country. The stares and the attitudes given to me (while not comparable to actual violence) were pretty uncomfortable. Also, I got pulled over for the first time (I know right) in southern rural Georgia. Not a pretty scene, being told to get out of the car while it's super cold at 1AM and having a cop wanting to search your vehicle.
Racism is real but our experiences with it are not the same.
Brent Miller I really don't think like that more like if a person looks sketchy and anyone can look sketchy.
uuu09 I am white, Scandinavian to be exact.
I hate when people say black friends. I don't say I have white friends. I have all types of friends. We are all people. Get rid of the race when describe in people. Cmon damn
Not within the context of this discussion.
Nathaniel Saez how can you get rid of face when America keeps doing it ? Nobody can come together when their taught this besides kids they literally don’t see anything wrong with playing with a kid a different skin tone until taught to resent that person
Bravo to Kirsten Powers!
A Fox News Analyst standing up to a Fox News Host - never thought I'd see the day.
I've watched bill oreilly for a long time. Today, seeing him say "there's no system of racism in America", I've lost all ability to watch him and think he is in touch with the world. Systematic racism is everywhere in the job market...
First off I am not a bill O'riley fan. However he did not say everyone is racist. He said every country has issues with racism. That is a FACT! MOST of American's are not racist, yet we are acting as if everyone is.. Also asking "how many black friends do you have" does not dictate how racist they are. Example if there is only one African American family in the town you live, but you don't know them personally, does it make you racist for not having black friends? NO!!!! As long as you treat them the same as anyone else you do not know personally you are not racist. What do you want for us to seek out African American's to be friends with and add them to the I'm not racist scorecard? That's far worse an idea, treating them as a commodity. They are people and should be treated like everyone else.
Also I would get upset as well if she kept interrupting me constantly, refusing to give acknowledgement to any rebuttals, and asking one of the worst racial questions ever.
I have African American uncles, nephews, friends and co-workers. Most are great people just like MOST of any race is.
that is a real Bill O'Reilly moment always switching it all the blame on someone else when he knows for a fact who he is and Bill We Know Who You Are don't act like you really give a shit cuz we know you don't
LOL, I cant believe how outraged Bill was hahahahaha
I never heard about that blue eye/ brown eye study. That's very interesting, but I guess it makes sense
I'm from SC and I'm sitting here thinking, "Why the hell would another state have our old flag (which was barely used in the civil war anyways)? I'm totally for it to be taken because IT"S NOT OUR FLAG anymore and it was certainly NEVER their flag". When I first heard about this I was like, "Oh that flags still flying? Cool guess they'll take it down. that's that its a relic of a former time" then it became a national concern. I orignally thought, "Well the flag itself isn't racist because it's not even the flag flown by SC during the time" but now that I'm finding out that there are so many OTHER states using it...it's becoming very apparent its not just a leftover RELIC of the civil war (which I was under the impression) but rather almost impossible to debate it was not a symbol of racism, not during the civil war, but during the civil rights movement.
Ok, first off I'm black. Second I am not a republican. Third I love how easy misinformation is spread. The civil war was not fought about slavery. Period. It was fought because the south at the time was the primary force for economic power in the country due admittedly to the slave labor force.
The south wanted more power and better representation in the government because they had the majority of the money due to agriculture. When they couldn't get the amount of power that they thought was fair they wanted to become their own country. Also at the time, slavery was a hot button issue, not morally, but because of the amount of money the south was making due to climate, good soil and a long growing season. Once the war started, the emancipation proclamation was enacted to cripple the south economically because the north had more troops and knew the south could and would buy military support from other countries if they continued to be economically stable throughout a long campaign. Ending slavery was a brilliant political move at the time though the abolitionists did publicly celebrate it as their victory.
Fourth, the confederate flag for a lot of southern people represented the fact they rebelled from what they saw as a tyrannical government which was a right guaranteed in the constitution. The flag does not stand for racism any more than the swastika stood for antisemitism; today that is what people see or think about when they see them but was never the intent. Now I'm not saying that they have not been used to represent those things by hate groups and racists, just that they are symbols and context makes them what they are.
My last point is that the people like Bill O'Reilly who sit back and pretend that racism don't exist are hilarious to me. Racism is epidemic and systematic and affects everyone. It isn't a black issue or a white issue either, it is a human issue which is the only thing I will concede to Bill O'Reilly. That being said I think that it's sad that people believe that taking down a flag is a victory for the cause or in any way will influence racism. Y'all muffukkas need ta read a got damn book. Real talk.
I believe we have read different versions of the history of this country...
I'm not a Bill O'Reilly fan, but you are being pretty harsh here. You complain at him for misrepresenting what the guest said and yet you do it about him.
Bill didn't say that every country has racism EXCEPT america (which you mocked him for). He said that all countries have it INCLUDING america.
The point he was making is yes racism does exist, but its not a major systematic problem in America. I agree with him on that. You will never ever get completely rid of racism. Some people will always be prejudiced to others. However in America today, the tiny fraction who are racist are looked down upon. It is seen rightly as an awful crime. There is no systematic oppression to any race. That's Bills point and I actually agree.
What the guest is saying (along with many including TYT) is that racism is a huge problem in America. You agree with the idea of 'White Privilege' and systematic oppression of Blacks. Although she didn't actually say 'MOST' americans are racist, you can see how Bill thought that. She made it out as a major problem and when Bill accused her, all she came out with is 'how many Black friends do you have?' What does that have anything to do with it?
They are not being harsh at all.
Great Response there. Really debunked my argument
how many black friends do you have
how many black friends do you have
+Chris Ricks Is that question aimed at me?
The day Bill O'Reilly finally kicks the bucket will be a glorious day for America.
I don't understand the premise of this RUclips channel. You guys are neither young nor Turks.
I recomend googling the term before posting a comment. Not supporting them, just supporting knowledge of historic references in general. Also, I believe Cenk is actually Turkish, which is why he chose that specific reference.
+David Harris I'm aware of the possibility of Cenk's adopted nationality. However, Cenk is certainly not young, and any other "journalist" reporting from this channel isn't Turkish. To go even further, none of the activities that the members of this channel embark on exemplify the phrase, "Young Turk."
+Pete Pyeatt The people at Fox News are not actual Foxes either.... Theyre donkeys.
+Insane Punchy Andrea Tantaros is a Fox. Just sayin'.
+Pete Pyeatt I give you that.
This can prove that Bill O'Reilly should be taken off the air.
When she asked him how many black friends do you have, he got really pissed. He knew he fit in that racist group.
Sadly, I think Bill is saying there is no legalized racism, not actually saying there is no racism, because he starts on the point that "you want a perfect country..."
Bill O'Reilly is the master of the straw-man argument. Instead of answering head on, her question (black friends), he says "if you think MOST Americans are racist, I'm ashamed of you." First of all, answer the question, second of all, she said " A LOT," not "MOST."
Despite being a liberally-minded individual, I have to disagree with TYT's interpretation of what Bill O'Reilly is saying, i.e. that "America is the only non-racist country in the world". I think thats putting words in his mouth, and even if he is an utter moron we shouldn't ridicule him on straw men arguments.
I think its fairly clear from that clip that what he was trying to say is "yes, there are racist people in America, but that does not make the country as a whole racist, much like it doesn't make other countries as a whole racist.", though maybe he wasn't putting it so eloquently.
Having said that, its still a stupid fucking reason to defend the confederate flag and criticise the anti-racism movement in the US. If most people in the States aren't racist (which, arguably, they aren't), then why should a Confederate flag be used? Surely that is unrepresentative of the country's values?
I'm probably racist, at least a little. Everyone is. Everyone has their own prejudices that have been fed to them by the media, or by their family, or by people they talk to on a day to day basis. And the thing is, being racist doesn't really matter. You can be as racist as you want to be, as long as you don't act on it. So long as you don't go out in public ranting about jews or black people, or mexicans, or whoever, its okay to be racist. Don't get me wrong, racism is a bad thing, but as long as nobody acts on it, and as long as nobody is hurt or massively offended, does it really matter? Because as long as you don't discriminate against people, and you keep your opinion of other races or religions to yourself, I don't see harm in it.
Don't forget experiences. experiences cause prejudice
True, but sad...
I had a shocking moment when I was visiting my best friend in KY a month or two ago - I'm attracted to black men, the skin tone, the full lips, the nose, all the 'classic features' I guess you could say. I just find them crazy attractive and I don't keep this a secret.
So at one point we were in the car and she turned to me and said "You know you can't actually date a black guy, right?"
"Why?"
"Because he'll treat you like shit. It's just how they're raised sweetie."
I stammered out something about race not mattering and that my ex was super white, red head white, and he didn't treat me well. I don't know if I made my point or not, I was in shock and my mouth was moving kind of on it's own. I never pegged her as a racist, but now I can't stop thinking about it.
First off, I am an American and proud of it
Second, I was born and raised in the south… most of us are not racist. You will not get anywhere in life now if you are a racist, and if you are, then God help you.
Third, slavery was not the only reason the south succeeded from the union. Do I agree with the succession? No.
Fourth, do you know that a very minute amount of people in the south actually had slaves and agreed with the practice? Thomas Jefferson was against slavery but had slaves.
Fifth, people back on those times were more loyal to their state than a unified country. The north and the south had many issues and disagreements leading to the war. Stonewall
Jackson was quoted as saying that.. I am a Virginian first and an American second. I didn’t put that in quotations because I am not 100% sure if those were the exact words.
Sixth, many Americans, Union or Confederate, would trade supplies with each other. Why not trade coffee for shoe lasses. There wasn’t an intense hatred toward each other for the most part. There was a mutual respect.
Yes, the rebellion was wrong. If America lost the Revolutionary War, would it be considered un-Brittan for the colonies for rebelling? The south wanted independence so as he put it “un-American” because we would be two different countries. It is the same concept. He needs to open a book and be educated rather than getting on a soap box about putting his argument primarily on racism.
That being said, I do agree with his closing argument, but please don’t judge us all. There is racism in the north as well. I realize that many people are offended with the Confederate flag, and many southerners consider it as southern pride and not a sign of racism. I personally do not think that state buildings should fly the Confederate flag because of other interpretations of the flag. That is just my opinion.
Look, I do not agree with O'Reilly's politics in this segment and many others. But even if we all put that aside for a moment, can everyone not agree that his hosting style is simply awful. The whole show centers around him, and you get no other perspective on the issues. And when he does put a person with another perspective on the program, he does it merely to demean them and to bully them. They can't finish their sentences, make any points, or get any respect. I don't mean to be condescending (that's his thing), but is very clear that he cannot control his temper or projection. He raises his voice when someone won't concede to his point. He fails to realize that the only reason no one concede's to his points is because he spews rhetoric instead of quality information. But he gets good ratings. Fox News needs to get some integrity. If you want right-wing programming fine, but make it fair and at least remotely informative.
So with that reasoning Bill you wouldn't have a problem with Germany flying the Nazi flag? Lots of brave soldiers fought for that flag too
Dylan Roof had a lot of black friends; friends who were interviewed by the media, and said he never treated them different, they hung out together, even crashed at the same house. So the question was kind of moot. Having friends of one particular race or another doesn't mean you''re not racist.
This is my introduction to Kirsten Powers and I'm excited about her spirit, fearlessness, and willingness to go head to head with big bully, B.O. With the simple question, "How many black friends do you have, Bill?", she sends B.O. into a defensive rage. Right on K.P. Keep in up.
how is he allowed to be so rude on national television without any repercussions
because fox
I am not sure why Cenk is having a hard time understanding what O'Reilly said. He didn't say that "everyone else is racist and we're not." What he said was every country has racist elements within, no country is spotless, and that America doesn't have institutional racism (written in law) anymore. I am not sure where Cenk is getting the idea that he said "every country but America is racist." Even an 8 year old can see that this isn't what O'Reilly said.
from the Wikipedia page of Levittown, NY (Bills Hometown):
"Levittown was designed to provide a large amount of housing at a time when there was a high demand for affordable family homes.[8] This suburban development would become a symbol of the "American Dream" as it allowed thousands of families to become home owners. But Levittown would also become a symbol of racial segregation. The discriminatory housing standards of Levittown were consistent with government policies of the time.[9] The Federal Housing Association allowed developers to justify segregation within public housing. The FHA only offered mortgages to non-mixed developments which discouraged developers from creating racially integrated housing. In accordance with this policy, the buying agreement signed by all those who purchased homes in Levittown stated that the property could not be used or rented by any individuals other than those of the Caucasian race.[10] Before the sale of Levittown homes began, the sales agents were aware that no applications from black families would be accepted. As a result American veterans who wished to purchase a home in Levittown were unable to do so if they were black.[11]
William Levitt attempted to justify their decision to only sell homes to white families by saying that it was in the best interest for business.[11] He claimed their actions were not discriminatory but intended to maintain the value of their properties. The company explained that it was not possible to reduce racial segregation while they were attempting to reduce the housing shortage. Though the Levitts were Jewish, they did not wish to sell homes to Jewish families: "As a Jew, I have no room in my heart for racial prejudice. But the plain fact is that most whites prefer not to live in mixed communities. This attitude may be wrong morally, and someday it may change. I hope it will."[12] The Levitts explained that they would open up applications to blacks after they had sold as many homes to white people as possible.[11] They believed that potential white buyers would not want to buy a house in Levittown if they were aware that they would have black neighbors."
It's no wonder Bill O'Reilly doesn't know much about other people.
Man he dodged that question about black friends like it was a bullet, just real politician type maneuvering
She said "a lot" of people in this country are racist and he turns it into, "you think *most* people in this country are racist!" Those are not the same. If 23% of Americans say that different races are inferior, that's A LOT of people but it's not most people. This isn't a hard concept to understand.
As distasteful as I find the Confederate flag, having grown up in Arkansas as a liberal Non Christian, I do not believe that ideologies should be banned. freedom of speech, freedom of ideas, freedom of individualism is very important. There's a huuuuge difference between hanging up a flag and promoting violence or hatred.
Lmao Bill just skipped over the black friends question like she never asked it.
btw Bill has no black friends
I gotta disagree with you guys on this one, she was definitely insinuating that he was racist, and he retorted by not signifying the question and instead coming down on her for her equally rude behavior.
In America, just like any other country, you have racism. And I'm sorry to tell you this but removing a flag won't change that.
I'd also like to state furthermore that the civil war wasn't just about slavery. The United states government was overtaxing the south and using that money to fund the industrialisation of the north, they also imposed tariffs on British goods to force southerners to buy from America. The RICH land owners of the south rebelled over slavery, that I'll give you. But the every day southern soldier joined the rebellion because the United states screwed them to the point that they wanted to leave the union. I'd also like to state that up until the emancipation proclamation many northerners still had slaves.
So you can't sit here and tell me that a flag is a sign of purely racism. To say that is fundamentally wrong and is purely an uninformed thought. If you truly think about it most people now have more in common with that flag than ever before. Just like the south we are screwed at every turn by our government, for them with tariffs and overtaxation. And for us today it's the selling of our jobs to the lowest bidder, underpaying, and I'd dare say to the point of taxation without representation.
Bad faith... the guy on the left completely distorts what O'Reilly said... 1) he doesn't say that every country is racist. 2) He doesn't say that USA is the only non-racist country. On the contrary, he says there are racist elements in every country in the world (which by the way is undeniable), but that it doesn't make the USA a systemically racist country. Now you can disagree with that a, I think, easily demonstrate that he is wrong, but to distort his argument is weak, and makes your invalid. Pay attention if you want to play smartass.
By the way...using "how many black friends do you have?" as criteria is just stupid.
I don't like Bill and I agree with your viewpoint, but the way I took his statements was that the US is not 'systemically' more racist than other countries, and that as a system racism is not condoned- which is true in nearly all parts of the country, and imo debateable in others. But he didn't say the US is the only country on earth that's not racist, that's a hyperbolic interpretation. Semantics, but the way you spun that still has to be called out :)
Okay, I'm from a different country so I can see certain things that seem to evade Americans (outsider perspective and all that). But what stuck out most was at 7:26 when Bill O'Reilly says "Most AMERICANS are not racist." Before that Kristen Powers said "most people in this country" which is not significantly exclusive, but he structured that differently. And it is the way he constructed that sentence that gets me thinking. When he says "Americans", who does he mean? Don't black people have American identities?
Funnily, I don't think he is implying that both races are discriminatory towards the other. I don't think it would occur to him like that.
*screaming and ranting on the inside* I'm not even kidding if he cut me off like that there were going to be SERIOUS problems, considering the topic? Omg u have noooo idea how hyped i am rn.....
John makes an EXTREMELY important and legit point toward the end of this video. White people define racism or white supremacy to the highest degree possible (KKK, drag Blacks behind pickup trucks, liberally use the N word, tattoo swastikas on your forehead, burn down Black churches), then once defined as such, they can say, I don't do that, so I am not racist. Or the classic I'm not racist because I treat everyone the same, which is racist/sexist on its face because everyone's not the same. Further, since we live in a very segregated, patriarchal society, their standard for same is white, male, hetero, average height, good looking, non-disabled, right-handed, average intelligence, Christian, non-single parent, etc. To the extent you deviate from that list, your differences need to be accommodated, not assimilated to the norm or ignored. So please, everyone, don't fall for the "I treat everyone the same argument".
This Kirsten is being stomped on how is this acceptable to Americans that someone gets borderline verbally abused on national television.
Bill O'Reilly *looks* like he can't control his emotions, *looks* like he can't help turning every debate into a yelling-over-each-other scream-fest... but how do you think he made it this far, this long and got this big? One secret he's kept from the rest of us: he's read the little-known, Sun Tzu's "The Art of Debate". And Sun Tzu say....
"He who cannot finish a sentence, cannot form a contention. And he without a formulated contention, can never win a debate.
Even an argument carrying the ultimate-perfection of reason, can never overcome an argument yelled louder and simultaneously."
The man is a pure fucking genius.
First of all, as a southerner I love the rebel flag yet acknowledge its racist affiliations and understand that some people only associate it with bigotry and oppression. But I feel something completely different when I see/display the flag. Even though people make jokes about it or mock those of us who say it's about loving our southern culture; the food, the music, the way of life and the landscape itself, it's true. That is what it represents to a lot of us who are proud to be southern. Why should we be ashamed of where we come from? We can't be held accountable for the transgressions of those before us. It's also unfair to judge the entire southern demographic based on the actions of certain individuals. Some say no matter what our argument is we should realize that the flag is often viewed as insensitive and we should respect their feelings regardless of what it means to us. The thing is, when I get on here I see people talking about how the south is racist and we're all so backwards and narrow minded, but in the same sentence they use stereotypes to describe everyone in the south. How can people who claim to be non-judgmental automatically label all of us hicks, uneducated hillbillies, and of course, incest? Yes it's true that prejudice has a stronger presence here than other regions but that doesn't give one the right to make assumptions about all of us. I've never bought into political correctness or pretended to care about what others find offensive because I believe in equality under the constitution, which gives everyone the right to believe and say whatever they wish, even if it's something I find totally disgusting. Its not fair to try and ban abortion or same sex marriage just because you're religion says its wrong, other people still have rights they're entitled to. Being from the rural south, I know plenty of racist people. But after going through most of my life trying to pick fights and arguments with them about it and trying to prove how stupid they are I finally realized it's useless because I have the right and the ability to ignore it, but more importantly they have the right to feel the way the way feel. Bottom line is, it doesn't matter if the flag represents culture and pride to me or if it represents hate to someone else, it's the point of exercising our rights.
Bill O'Reilly is a fucking dictator in his show, "agree with me or you're out."
I just don't see the problem with the Confederate flag. I'm not racist, but I feel the Confederate flag is apart of America. Just as old Glory is. Alot of American's died fighting for their country and for what they believed in. And not just white confederates fought under that flag. African Americans also fought for the Confederate state's, not only slaves that where made to. But that's something alot of people don't know. There were free African Americans in the southern states. Most people think if they are in the southern states at this time in history and black they where slaves that's not the case. There were more African Americans slaves than free. So white or black they where Americans that died fighting under that flag. And anyone that thinks its cool and stands racism, their idiots.
O'reilly has an anger management problem.
The north did not fight the south to end slavery. It fought the south to prevent the break up of the U.S. The south fought the war because of economic conditions imposed on them by the north. The south was in such a mess because they had no major industry, and couldn't industrialize because of the extremely large slave population. Slavery was a major issue for the south. They were were essentially "hooked" on slavery like drugs and saw no escape, or reason for escape, since that would change their overall lifestyle.
Good for Kristen Powers for standing her ground and standing up to the bully that is Bill O'Reilly.
Bill was quite a bit tricky there, but he was speaking accurately, she said those words in denying she said them, that's what he meant by "you just said it." Plus she took his bait, arguing against the supposition that he invented, suggesting she believes that most American's are racist. Instead of correct him then, she played devil's advocate and tried to prove the opposed point of view to the position he asserted. She came off as an air-head and Bill Oreilly got to once again berate his way to a debate win over an air-head.
If the debate had any great substance they'd have discussed who particularly are guilty of using racism to do war for profit, The Bankers and they'd have made an indictment of it. But even TYT is here hiding that aspect of the subject, who is the worst horribly commanding racist crimes to convince walled off populations to battle each other, quite apparently because they need that ad revenue.
If 9 out of 10 times I got bit by a dog, the 11th dog a I meet, you think I'm going to let it approach me and have an open mind? No, I'm going to run away. There is a reason why humans have maintained stereotypes through evolution, and you can't hate people for acting on those stereotypes.
Kristen Powers was giving Bill O'Reilly the ultimate "L"
Raising taxes is more important than taking down a symbol for racism.
Kirsten Powers, even though you are not black, I still consider you to be a sister. Thank you for standing up for right. You are living proof that all white people are not racist. Thank you!
What these racism deniers in America don't take into account is that America is unique in its history. First it's history of white settlers is not ancient history it is relatively new. Then slavery, the civil war. Up to the modern history of equal rights and segregation. This isn't that long ago, so to say that everything is fine, the racism is negligible is bull. It doesn't just disappear over night when you change a law.
I think the biggest problem in this debate is that there is a serious issue regarding the proper usage of the term 'racist'. I don't believe most people in this country are racist. The vast majority are simply prejudice or bigoted regarding people of other ethnic, cultural or religious backgrounds. And there is a big difference between being prejudice and being a racist.
A racist believes in the superiority of their race, or inferiority of other races, and because of that belief, they feel that they are entitled to rights and privileges that ONLY they should enjoy, like voting or having the capacity to do certain jobs or tasks.
Someone who is prejudice or bigoted simply defines other ethnic, cultural or religious groups based on ignorance; stereotypes passed from generation to generation, like Jews being cheap, or blacks and Latinos being prone to violence and promiscuity...or all white people are racist.
Too many arguments are misleading because most arguments about ethnic, cultural or religious differences are based in our natural instinct towards prejudices, which are really demonstrations of ignorance about other ethnic, cultural or religious groups. But instead of labeling such things as prejudice or bigotry, the perpetrator becomes a racist, which is something completely different.
Bill DID NOT say that the U.S. was not racist and that all other countries are. He said all countries contain racist elements but America was not racist (he did not call any other country racist).
O'Reilly didn't say himself that the Confederate flag stands for bravery, he clearly said, in context, that to be the views of some Southerners. I hate O'Reilly, but just pointing out a striking factual inaccuracy in this video that is rather concerning. They should check their info.
I think everyone, by default is racist. We have to admit that and make an effort NOT to judge other by how they look. It's not easy to not be racist.
What he seemed to be saying at the beginning, as far as I can tell from the very short clip, was that racism isn't ingrained into society, but that, like any country in the world, America has racism still in it. It wasn't that hard to see.
Not that he's right or anything, antiblackness is a serious threat, as Wilderson clearly demonstrates.
"I'm wrong?? THE WHOLE WORLD IS WRONG!"
Confederate flag is not a symbol of racism, its a symbol of the southern culture which is rich and wonderful. We got rid of slavery a long time ago. There is no issue.
The Young Turks should change their name since it shares its name with the Ottoman Empire Movement "The Young Turks" that carried out the Armenian Genocide.
The word "racist" is far too over used and abused these days. It has so many meanings that it has become meaningless.
If this country was founded to be a "more perfect union" then that means we should be constantly trying to achieve that goal. Denying what has gone on in the past is unamerican by its very nature. These people (most conservatives) hate what the purpose of this nation was meant to be. In fact they are not conservative at all. A conservative who follows the mindset of the founders of this country is called a progressive. Washington DC and it's layout is more than enough to prove that. In it's original design our capital was to be a monument to science. It was supposed to be a 10 x 10 diamond with the streets laid out in a grid. VA expressed states rights which is why it ends at the Patomic river. They wanted our capital to be based on science specifically geometry. It is supposed to be a symbol of our nation as progressive and not stuck on tradition even though most of them were Christian. They did not want think their religion to be the rule of law of the land.
Bill: "You just said it!!" (most Americans are racist) but she DIDN'T say that!!!!
TYT, you airheads. He said racism exists in America as everywhere but it isn't ingrained in our society and treated as acceptable behavior. That's perfectly valid and absolutely true. It in no way contradicts itself. What if he said murder happens everywhere including America, but there's no epidemic of murder in America, America doesn't condone murder and murder isn't seen as acceptable behavior in America but no country is perfect? You would totally agree. Anyone would. This is common sense, and it's true about racism as well. Are there racists in America? Yes, but racism is handled in America as a very serious issue, arguably more so than many other first world countries.
Why does O'Riley think people are accusing him? At first we weren't, but only a guilty person denies a crime prior to the accusation.
TYT, I laud your efforts to expose the racism in our country. Politically speaking I am middle of the road. On the particular issue of race, I think the problem is that most Whites do not know the real history of racism and oppression in America. Nor do they know the facts about the impact and residual effects of that history. In our education system we are taught a sanitized version of our past. I don't think most people are willfully in denial, they are just ignorant. I think we should spend more time educating people as opposed to criticizing Fox News. Most people do not know about Black Codes, Jim Crow, the real source of White wealth, Redlining, War on Drugs, etc. etc. I think individuals would be more willing to yield if they were informed about the facts. The only reason why people like Bill O'Reilly are able to cause people to believe lies is because they are ignorant of the truth.
exactly. when these people hear "racist," they think "bigot." big difference between those words
There are many black Americans who do not have white friends. As you get older, you hang around people you are 100% comfortable with. If that's not a person of a certain race, so be it. Life's to short. Love who you love and be kind to everyone else.