Getting the Goat on Another Sashley Drama

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  • Kids will be kids.
    They don't deserve to be cancelled for not knowing how not to be kids.
    Edit: At [54:30] Goat brings up a screenshot allegedly of Newdlez asking for newds. According to Sashley, this was not Newdlez, but Molten, which would correspond with the reason for Sashley and Molten breaking up listed on the drama wiki.
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Комментарии • 3,2 тыс.

  • @spiderlilyIDV
    @spiderlilyIDV 5 лет назад +8719

    Thank you so much ponder! This drama was honestly tiring, I'm tired of seeing my friends get attacked as well as myself merely for having a friendship with someone else, and defending them. Tysm yet again! It covered everything, its been an honor to help you out with this situation

    • @Juupitrr
      @Juupitrr 5 лет назад +53

      Oh shit I just want to get a kind of foundation thing idk cuz I'm actually brain dead rn and I have to get aron a bit more than I have to get aron a shitty present for me and vice versa and I will be back from the school's drama club last night and they said t I have a red belt so if you want to try it again then please don't worry about the rest of the day and the rest of the week as they will be the first one in the morning so I'll be home like midday and the rest of the week is fine for me though as I will be back from the school's drama club last night and they said they will be back tomorrow evening

    • @Juupitrr
      @Juupitrr 5 лет назад +26

      Yes. Yes I did press the middle button 300 times.

    • @amymeadows9834
      @amymeadows9834 5 лет назад +27

      Do not worry mommy and her little drones (even me) will help you and others as much as we can ;)

    • @FlowersAreCool
      @FlowersAreCool 5 лет назад +25

      Ponder please pin this comment so people dont do stupid stuff

    • @SapphireSword-pd1ix
      @SapphireSword-pd1ix 5 лет назад +48

      You have my sympathies. You and your friends don't deserve to be harassed all because your friends with somebody.

  • @OpossumOnTheMoon
    @OpossumOnTheMoon 5 лет назад +6092

    This is literally the living embodiment of
    “There is one thing worse than a rapist.
    Boom.
    A child”

  • @Unknownperson-vf2ne
    @Unknownperson-vf2ne 5 лет назад +3178

    Can I just point out how when people "Said don't get ponder involved." kinda sound like the lines of "Don't tell mom.".

    • @j.h170
      @j.h170 5 лет назад +196

      Jasmine Unknown that’s what this basically is when you think about the way some people view Ponder to be to the community. 😂

    • @sillystarsnskulls
      @sillystarsnskulls 5 лет назад +88

      Honestly... it makes sense because of her being the mother of Fiend

    • @dangerousgamergirl7663
      @dangerousgamergirl7663 4 года назад +52

      'Cause she's an Octo momma.
      Now that I said that I'm thinking of Octo Dad 😅

    • @mickeymousewithouttheclubh6584
      @mickeymousewithouttheclubh6584 4 года назад +9

      It got this to 1k for you :)

    • @staticsshifter
      @staticsshifter 4 года назад +18

      Right at the end of the video I just had an image of Ponder standing in front of a group of kids like a scolding mom

  • @noodlesandduck
    @noodlesandduck 4 года назад +925

    “Please don’t get Ponder involved!”
    Ponder Sprocket: I recognise the council has made a decision, but given it's a stupid ass decision, I've elected to ignore it.

  • @duckietheduck
    @duckietheduck 5 лет назад +7295

    "a child is acting like a child"
    Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.

    • @Juupitrr
      @Juupitrr 5 лет назад +385

      Every drop of water you drink, someone on the other side drinks that exact amount.

    • @Moominguro
      @Moominguro 5 лет назад +388

      Your birthday and the day of your birth land on the same day you are born.

    • @Redpanda-ix7ry
      @Redpanda-ix7ry 5 лет назад +213

      If you drink water, the water disappears

    • @itzbeelzebuddy
      @itzbeelzebuddy 5 лет назад +80

      Ollympus hm the floor here is made out of floor

    • @venus5156
      @venus5156 5 лет назад +245

      Japanese urban legend says if you are unable to sleep than it is because you are awake

  • @bearshunnypot302
    @bearshunnypot302 5 лет назад +5677

    Everybody gangsta till the avatar crosses their arms

    • @smt64productions40
      @smt64productions40 5 лет назад +74

      Yeah
      *Don't understand the joke*

    • @Forlorn_Overseer
      @Forlorn_Overseer 4 года назад +20

      @@smt64productions40 r\whoosh

    • @smt64productions40
      @smt64productions40 4 года назад +28

      @@Forlorn_Overseer Can I ask where the joke have "everyone gangsta until avatars cross their arms" came from

    • @endergirldragon
      @endergirldragon 4 года назад +20

      @@smt64productions40 I think its from the trsndttr meme(idk how write the name xd)

    • @smt64productions40
      @smt64productions40 4 года назад +3

      @@endergirldragon Okay

  • @ggmrgameanddraw
    @ggmrgameanddraw 4 года назад +693

    saying "for the love of god dont get ponder involved" is like saying "for the love of god dont call the cops" while standing over a body you just murdered.

    • @Jynxxx5
      @Jynxxx5 4 года назад +52

      In this case, an octo mama with an octopus on her back who is basically the mother of the commentary community.

  • @Marverick1998
    @Marverick1998 5 лет назад +1933

    "I am a child, now, let me educate you as to why it's bad for this other child to be acting like a child".
    Wtf even is this.

    • @smt64productions40
      @smt64productions40 5 лет назад +143

      Children thinking they are more smarter than they are

    • @aphy_
      @aphy_ 4 года назад +12

      @@StarzyButton and lightbulbs light up

    • @goddamnducks8205
      @goddamnducks8205 4 года назад +6

      its ✨stupitidy✨

  • @pinkip734
    @pinkip734 5 лет назад +748

    Imagine forcing a 13 year old to be a role model and do no wrong just cuz she got popular. People are being immature and dumb about this ugh

    • @alexangelkitten433
      @alexangelkitten433 5 лет назад +70

      Pinki P it’s bad to do that with even adults! Just because they are popular, that doesn’t mean they’re perfect

    • @replayarena8429
      @replayarena8429 5 лет назад +63

      This almost reminds me of another drama that went way out of proportion and involved a 15 year-old getting blamed for someone’s suicide. Yuck.

    • @brunettewithglasses
      @brunettewithglasses 5 лет назад +16

      @@replayarena8429 omg! Remember that!

    • @DCNRS90YT
      @DCNRS90YT 5 лет назад +9

      Yeah, it's pretty disappointing honestly..

    • @cepex4902
      @cepex4902 4 года назад +1

      She got popular because of drama

  • @marshmelloboi275
    @marshmelloboi275 4 года назад +1414

    Literally Everyone Trying To Cancel Sashley: O-Oh, you're approaching m-me?
    Octo-momma: *I Can't Beat Your Ass Without Getting Closer*

    • @lvl10cooking
      @lvl10cooking 3 года назад +36

      Octo-Platinum: ORRRRRRRAAAAA

    • @kibbleunhinged
      @kibbleunhinged 3 года назад +42

      I dunno why but..... 59:39
      Technoblade never dies

    • @jeremypedersen6894
      @jeremypedersen6894 3 года назад +4

      Yare yare daze

    • @Mimikyu_Ash
      @Mimikyu_Ash 3 года назад +12

      I love these Jojo references... OH WAIT
      Everyone who tried canceling Sashly: But it can't be how could you defeat I, (Everyone who tried canceling Sashly)!

    • @2212blackstar
      @2212blackstar Год назад +3

      I now want to see a ponder sprocket as a jojo fanart piece

  • @imnotimportantimjustme7602
    @imnotimportantimjustme7602 5 лет назад +4617

    "Dont tell ponder"
    Honestly that make me think of a mom and her kids.
    Like oh shit, we made drama dont tell mom.
    But Ponder finds out anyway because moms always find out what happened.

  • @MANTISNIXON55
    @MANTISNIXON55 5 лет назад +1700

    Sashely:
    GoatCatto: *chuckles*
    *_SPOCTOR, NAWNII AND PONDER_* :
    *C H U C K L E S*

  • @ally_voe_710
    @ally_voe_710 3 года назад +499

    Ponder is the mom of the rant community. I keep imagining Ponder just smacking everyone over the head with a newspaper while saying “WHAT. WERE. YOU. THINKING.”

  • @ozzycat5969
    @ozzycat5969 5 лет назад +2082

    "Shes unoriginal and steals designs"
    Avatar is literally scotch's goat with long ears and hair

    • @LilyCelebiFlipnote
      @LilyCelebiFlipnote 5 лет назад +114

      Yooo, I thought that same thing!

    • @DivineTerrors
      @DivineTerrors 5 лет назад +159

      And the style is super similar to birdies new style lmao

    • @ozzycat5969
      @ozzycat5969 5 лет назад +126

      To be fair art style is a different animal. You can't really steal an art style. You can steal a character design.

    • @asutorad
      @asutorad 5 лет назад +58

      And also, I've seen that art style from somewhere else. Very similar to all those "omg lol satanism is hip and cool and im edgy" people (no offense, it's just from my experience)

    • @ozzycat5969
      @ozzycat5969 5 лет назад +44

      Yeah its just cutesty pastel goth young artist style #5643

  • @thegiftedchild5574
    @thegiftedchild5574 5 лет назад +2132

    I hope Sashley is doing well mentally. If i were in her shoes, this whole stupid drama would send me into a downward spiral of depression. My will to live would be washed away like color on cheap fabric.

    • @CidZero
      @CidZero 5 лет назад +84

      Sashley seems to be a strong girl with many friends to support her. I'm sure she will be okay

    • @maplefoxxo
      @maplefoxxo 5 лет назад +11

      I know right?

    • @sparquinn
      @sparquinn 5 лет назад +61

      I do really worry for her because something similar happened to me when I was 13 and yeah that messed me up for at least a few weeks

    • @mikuenjoyerXD
      @mikuenjoyerXD 5 лет назад +13

      @@sparquinn weeks? Oh man

    • @sparquinn
      @sparquinn 5 лет назад +47

      @@mikuenjoyerXD Yeah I was really upset about it and it still bothers me today
      And for me it was only about 20 people bothering me on one site I can't imagine how bad it is for Sashley

  • @aperson1032
    @aperson1032 5 лет назад +2439

    When I was younger i drew some NSFW art in my sketch book, the thing is that my teacher checks my sketch book regularly since i was one of the promising students, so when he found it, I was obviously startled and swore id get into big trouble, but instead of calling my parents he sat me down and told me this (He's a comic nerd btw) "Art is like a super power, and with a great power, comes great responsibility, so use your powers for good." His approach on the matter stayed with me, (im 18 now) and i've even used the line myself to help stop underage artist from drawing and/or showing NSFW art. I think in matters such as these its better to explain the situation to the child in a way they can best understand what is right from wrong.

    • @pondersprocket2274
      @pondersprocket2274  5 лет назад +816

      I don't know if you make videos yourself, or if you have a want to, but that would be a really good topic to cover and explain how it's helped form your outlook on art and how to go about it.

    • @aperson1032
      @aperson1032 5 лет назад +349

      @@pondersprocket2274 I've always wanted to, but I don't really know where I should start. Hopefully one day soon, I'd just grow a pair and upload one lol. But thank you very much for the encouragement.

    • @daniellesmith1559
      @daniellesmith1559 4 года назад +72

      @@aperson1032 yes I think you'd do great

    • @CANDLE_CHU
      @CANDLE_CHU 4 года назад +93

      Now thats one cool teacher

    • @SarahAbramova
      @SarahAbramova 4 года назад +33

      @@CANDLE_CHU agreed

  • @MspLaCottonPop
    @MspLaCottonPop 5 лет назад +1129

    *Moral of the story: kids will be kids*

    • @jsansamatic6933
      @jsansamatic6933 5 лет назад +23

      Ya, and RUclips ain’t chucky cheese

    • @Aloysius_OHare
      @Aloysius_OHare 5 лет назад +12

      Jsans’s Is a dude RUclips is turning into a Chucky cheese honestly.

  • @UnfamiliarEyes
    @UnfamiliarEyes 5 лет назад +3920

    Sashley: *minds her own business*
    Literally everyone: *D I S G U S T I N G*

    • @ryomahoshi4529
      @ryomahoshi4529 4 года назад +127

      Plus,she seems overall nice and sweet(from what i saw with my own eyes)

    • @glitterghoulz
      @glitterghoulz 4 года назад +68

      U
      spelled “DISCUSTANG” wrong

    • @bicthh
      @bicthh 4 года назад +9

      Natacha Santiago Rodriguez r/whoosh

    • @amymeadows9834
      @amymeadows9834 4 года назад +43

      Sashley:*plays tennis with a small little Eyebot.... That has no hands*
      Everybody else: EEEEEEEVIIIILLL!!!
      yeah I know I'm super late but I noticed this comment.... Sorry :(

    • @yuen_washere
      @yuen_washere 4 года назад +6

      Lone Galaxy stop it! She is already deaddd :(

  • @kaloxiia
    @kaloxiia 4 года назад +681

    Because of her saying, “DON’T TELL SPONDER”, I get the feeling that goatcatto knew that her videos were trash and had invalid, stupid points.

    • @tempermage8540
      @tempermage8540 3 года назад +67

      Sponder Procket
      Much friendlier subspecies of the protective and intimidating octomama

    • @Sol-rk7ze
      @Sol-rk7ze 3 года назад +25

      @@tempermage8540 if spoctor and ponder had a baby:

    • @tempermage8540
      @tempermage8540 3 года назад +16

      @@Sol-rk7ze oh god no

    • @alecrutz956
      @alecrutz956 3 года назад +8

      @@tempermage8540 *oh god yes*

    • @snowflakewhite5068
      @snowflakewhite5068 6 месяцев назад +2

      And the irony is that it seemed Goat thought Ponder would get on Shashly because right after they said "SHASH DOESN'T NEED TO GET HURT MORE THAN SHE ALREADY IS!" Ah, the irony

  • @Nawnii
    @Nawnii 5 лет назад +2968

    Another thing is I dunno where they got Jleets age, I'm pretty sure he isnt even 17

    • @pondersprocket2274
      @pondersprocket2274  5 лет назад +771

      I actually asked Jleet directly and got confirmation of his age. He was in fact 17 at the time.

    • @Nawnii
      @Nawnii 5 лет назад +578

      @@pondersprocket2274 oh hecc I was told he was a younger then that fricc

    • @NeiasaurusCreations
      @NeiasaurusCreations 4 года назад +177

      We meet again, Nawnii. Everywhere I look, here you are. Stop stalking me plox, or I'll get like...I don't know a spray bottle? Fuck if I know where I was going with that.

    • @Mawfet
      @Mawfet 4 года назад +87

      @@NeiasaurusCreations HAHHAHADJRHSJD A SPRAY BOTTLE

    • @NeiasaurusCreations
      @NeiasaurusCreations 4 года назад +68

      @@Mawfet It's because her avatar is a furry cat type thing. So figured a spray bottle would work or something like that.

  • @SPOOPINATURAL
    @SPOOPINATURAL 5 лет назад +6698

    """a child is acting like a child"""" says goatcatto
    hM YES THIS FLOOR APPEARS TO BE MADE OF FLOOr

    • @yasmineh.1333
      @yasmineh.1333 5 лет назад +530

      OMG GUYS I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING, LIKE, MINDBLOWING
      WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR EYES YOU CAN SEE

    • @bendylattas
      @bendylattas 5 лет назад +280

      OMG YALL I JUST REALISED
      IF YOU COVER YOUR EARS
      YOU HEAR LESS WELL
      WOAHH

    • @yasmineh.1333
      @yasmineh.1333 5 лет назад +233

      @@bendylattas ALSO WHEN YOU TAKE A BATH YOU GET WET

    • @zuziiice8907
      @zuziiice8907 5 лет назад +165

      And when you put something in your mouth, YOU GET A WEIRD FEELING IN YOUR MOUTH! i'mma call it tasting. :D

    • @zuziiice8907
      @zuziiice8907 5 лет назад +65

      @@meeky6714 :o
      No I didn't!

  • @emaansaad796
    @emaansaad796 3 года назад +204

    another thing slightly off topic but age regression isnt a sexual thing
    for most people its a coping mechanism
    Age regression occurs when you mentally retreat to an earlier age. In all ways, you believe you're back at that point in your life, and you may exhibit childish behaviors, too. Some people choose to revert to a younger age
    age play and age regression are very different
    ones a kink and the other is a coping mechanism
    ik most people wont see this but i still wanted to point it out

  • @winterwolf6910
    @winterwolf6910 5 лет назад +2142

    “Don’t get Ponder Involved” is like the worst statement to make when involved in drama.
    She’s gonna get involved whether you like it or not.
    Also thank you for that for explanation of DDLG. It’s amazing and I appreciate it a lot!

    • @pondersprocket2274
      @pondersprocket2274  5 лет назад +295

      Admittedly, that's actually not the case. I've had multiple instances where people actively ask me to get involved in situations and I've had to turn them down because of various reasons. Whether I make a video on a situation very much depends on whether I feel like the situation is serious or potentially needs to be discussed from a different angle. Asking people not to get me involved does not automatically mean that I will get involved.

    • @e.m1108
      @e.m1108 5 лет назад +69

      Ponder is like a shark that smells blood lol

    • @winterwolf6910
      @winterwolf6910 5 лет назад +37

      Oh frick my phone didn’t update me on you replying when I edited my comment. I’ve been noticed by Senpai!

    • @tei4724
      @tei4724 5 лет назад +28

      I read it as DDLC, ahah... Jeez...

    • @itzbeelzebuddy
      @itzbeelzebuddy 5 лет назад +17

      Winter Wolf Goat Catto: Dont get Ponder involved
      Ponder: *walked in... walked in...*

  • @snekwitch7892
    @snekwitch7892 5 лет назад +430

    Others: ponder blame the victim!!!
    Ponder: uno reverse
    Others: **surprised pikachu**

  • @nahomist6533
    @nahomist6533 4 года назад +579

    I know I'm like a year late, but looking back at Sashley overall, it's like she's used as the animation meme community's punching bag, they try to find ways to make her seem like a bad person. Why are people so angry at this kid? I'm genuinely wondering why.

    • @stillhere6628
      @stillhere6628 4 года назад +51

      I really agree.... Like... Go to those that trule deserve it, not a child-

    • @skinman4207
      @skinman4207 3 года назад +36

      I know, and it seems like that for every child in the animation community, it’s just sick.

    • @Watttttt
      @Watttttt 3 года назад +49

      I honestly don’t know why she was used as the punching bag in the first place. You’d think after a couple of pointless dramas with her, they’d stop

    • @mm-xk2zl
      @mm-xk2zl 3 года назад +78

      younger people are usually more vulnerable
      its easier to break a child than to break an adult
      source: experience

    • @MysticEspe
      @MysticEspe 3 года назад +16

      Jealousy is a helluva thing

  • @wilczyca2678
    @wilczyca2678 5 лет назад +415

    I only started watching and honestly? "Don't get Ponder involved" sounds like "don't get police involved" and I have no idea whether it's good or bad.

    • @pondersprocket2274
      @pondersprocket2274  5 лет назад +160

      Considering, canonically, "Ponders" are a sort of type of tech/special service police officer in the story that Ponder Sprocket is from....... All I'm saying is, it's fitting.

    • @dreamybombstudios724
      @dreamybombstudios724 4 года назад +19

      Don't get the octo mamma involved 0-0

  • @MrJerkdude1
    @MrJerkdude1 5 лет назад +1082

    "Don't get Ponder involved"
    Ponder: *slowly approaching* "Ara Ara"

    • @overland_brew8197
      @overland_brew8197 5 лет назад +49

      Awaken ( from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure ) starts playing

    • @Tamaki742
      @Tamaki742 4 года назад +28

      @@overland_brew8197 AYAYAYAAAAAA

    • @genderlesstoast6633
      @genderlesstoast6633 4 года назад +11

      Why does that fit so fucking well

    • @kooku649
      @kooku649 4 года назад +9

      True dragon Slayer AYAYAYAAAA

    • @mina-simp
      @mina-simp 4 года назад +6

      “Sate, sate, sate... what do we have here?”

  • @carth9375
    @carth9375 4 года назад +373

    Sashley: Is a minor/child acting like a minor/child
    Goat: H o w D a r e Y o u -

  • @OrganDusa
    @OrganDusa 5 лет назад +584

    “Don’t get ponder involved!”
    Why? Because you know she’s gonna prove you wrong? Pfft-

    • @titansparrow64
      @titansparrow64 5 лет назад +31

      Saying “Don’t get Ponder involved” is only going to amplify her involvement.

    • @stardasuperstar895
      @stardasuperstar895 5 лет назад +19

      Saying "Don't get Ponder involved" is the definition of digging your own grave. I ligit paused the video when Ponder told us that and said "YOU ASKED FOR IT!!!" 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @SapphireSword-pd1ix
      @SapphireSword-pd1ix 5 лет назад +18

      What's more saddening about the, "Don't get Ponder involved" quote is that it gives us the impression that that Goat might acknowledge that they might be wrong, but instead of thinking for a few seconds they instead made the video and posted it on RUclips despite acknowledging the possibility that they are wrong.

  • @trishie_V
    @trishie_V 5 лет назад +832

    “Please don’t get Ponder involved!”
    _welp_

  • @dasutanehineri
    @dasutanehineri 4 года назад +272

    "a child is acting like a child"
    people die when they are killed

    • @yurri-homare
      @yurri-homare 4 года назад +9

      When someone isn’t dead they’re alive

    • @izakmagdamo4285
      @izakmagdamo4285 3 года назад +2

      Two dead, found dead

    • @crackmonkey9066
      @crackmonkey9066 3 года назад +7

      A dead body is acting like a dead body

    • @theworstmeme6420
      @theworstmeme6420 3 года назад +9

      10 people died in the bronx last night due to a fire that killed 10 people in the bronx last night during a fire

  • @macintoshminus9537
    @macintoshminus9537 5 лет назад +792

    Goatcatto: "pwease don't get ponder involved PWEAAASEE!!!"
    *The octopus mother enters the ring*

    • @SapphireSword-pd1ix
      @SapphireSword-pd1ix 5 лет назад +67

      There's a rumor that says that whenever a minor is in trouble the Octomom will come to save them.

    • @yasmineh.1333
      @yasmineh.1333 5 лет назад +27

      @@SapphireSword-pd1ix so Octomom is Batman ? ?

    • @SapphireSword-pd1ix
      @SapphireSword-pd1ix 5 лет назад +22

      @@yasmineh.1333 Yep. With Fiend being her Robin, Stories and Pentagrin being being her Joker and Harley Quinn.

    • @yasmineh.1333
      @yasmineh.1333 5 лет назад +18

      @@SapphireSword-pd1ix now this is the crossover I never knew I needed

    • @thejsg3720
      @thejsg3720 5 лет назад +1

      Yasmine H. Yup yup yup

  • @rusty1430
    @rusty1430 5 лет назад +570

    "Dont get ponder involved"
    Ponder: I'm about to end this childs whole career

    • @pondersprocket2274
      @pondersprocket2274  5 лет назад +105

      I certainly hope not, considering I said that children don't deserve to be cancelled for childish mistakes, of which I fully believe this was. (At least on Goat's end. There's someone who was behind the scenes who... doesn't really get as much of a pass from me.)

    • @rusty1430
      @rusty1430 5 лет назад +33

      Ofc it wasnt meant in that way that kids should be canceld, thought the meme would fit.

    • @nyan_eleven
      @nyan_eleven 5 лет назад +8

      ‘Bout to end the kid’s career before it even starts

    • @smt64productions40
      @smt64productions40 5 лет назад +4

      @@rusty1430 Here is a better one:
      "SIT THE FUCK DOWN YOU STUPID FUCK!"

  • @Stardust_Lei978
    @Stardust_Lei978 3 года назад +137

    On the topic of people expecting you to "expose Sashley" it kinda feels odd that they'd be making that request knowing your most notable video(The Spoctor Theory drama) drove home the point that minors are bound to make stupid decisions and thus holding it over their heads is the wrong way to go about helping correct their behavior.

  • @Unknown-if4bg
    @Unknown-if4bg 5 лет назад +654

    Sashley had been cyberbullied for moons. Enough is enough. Stop attacking children, y'all.

    • @j.h170
      @j.h170 5 лет назад +19

      Unknown it’s really not good for her I hope she’s coping properly and that she isn’t lonely...

    • @Its_Asteria
      @Its_Asteria 5 лет назад +3

      I hope she's able to get therapy, I also hope her parents are made aware of this and she gets the help she needs from people in the real world.

    • @CrazyAlienLady051
      @CrazyAlienLady051 5 лет назад +7

      @@WhiteKnightMewnMan-ll1xk 🙄I'm pretty sure they saw the warning. They're just saying people need to stop attacking children because they make mistakes. Also was the insult necessary?

    • @CrazyAlienLady051
      @CrazyAlienLady051 5 лет назад +12

      @- ˏˋ leafsea ˊˎ - Moons is an exaggeration used by a Wizard101 RUclipsr named ZenMasterBlue. He uses moons as another way of saying "ages" because he use to comment on how some spells in Wizard101 take MOONS to attack/cast.

    • @Unknown-if4bg
      @Unknown-if4bg 5 лет назад +4

      @@WhiteKnightMewnMan-ll1xk lol So confident in your reply that you just threw an insult in there. But, i was reffering to Sashley and the dramas people where making on her. Not the whole situation in general....Why did i even have to explain my comment when it should've been obvious lol.

  • @Nezziemonster
    @Nezziemonster 5 лет назад +2363

    Sometimes I look at the art community and all I can think is "Did ya'll just forget that having fun is a thing? Why can't we just have fun with characters and character designs?"
    Don't have to have an epic backstory, don't have to be a revolutionary figure in art, and ya don't even really have to be original just...HAVE. FUN. WITH. ART. Or animation or whatever. Made it with your own hands? Good you have succeeded, have a nice day.

    • @aidien6894
      @aidien6894 4 года назад +76

      like, be proud you made it. It ain't the best and it might not be like how you completely wanted it, buuuuut you did it. At least one or two people will like what you did, maybe even more.

    • @jasoncerasoli1934
      @jasoncerasoli1934 3 года назад +27

      thats illegal according to artists

    • @littlestshadow
      @littlestshadow 3 года назад +23

      I mean I don’t understand why the art community is toxic as hell. Closed races, popular ships wars, chibi, cute or very stylish art style is predictors. Be it safe or nsfw and locked up to not freely get into their hands.
      I’ve been called out as some bad things because I try to stand for people should have fun and not lumping others as sexist, maps, and fat phobic. It’s shitty and it’s why great big time artists don’t act active in any Community because of drama. The bigger you are. The bigger the target on your back.

    • @starrycharacter
      @starrycharacter 2 года назад

      Yeah as long as you're not making anything illegal and you're not being rude then do whatever you want with your art it's your creative expression just don't be a douchebag

  • @DlstantEchos
    @DlstantEchos 5 лет назад +468

    "It's extremely odd that they would have such a height difference if they were the same age or ageless." Okay, I get that Goat is a child, but this is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
    edit: rewatching this video again 2 years later because it's neat background noise while i draw, just wanna say that, as well as all the examples in the replies, my boyfriend is 4'11 and i'm 5'6, and he's 2 and a half years older than me. height differences are totally normal and aren't automatically a sign of a huge age difference.
    Also, completely anecdotal and unrelated to the height thing, I myself was neglected and I know people who were neglected, "her parents pay for her medication and took her to get it" means literally nothing, someone I know is medicated and her parental figure *physically abused her.* I know Ponder said it as well, but you should literally never be like "oh they're not abused because X" when the person has been saying they were abused. It's disgusting and horrible and deeply upsetting that Goat said this with their whole chest and so many people just agreed with it.
    Sorry for adding a NOVEL to my comment, I hope that now that a few years have passed Goat has grown up a little and no longer agrees with the views they once held, because this is completely god awful.

    • @fruckie6290
      @fruckie6290 4 года назад +47

      I know I'm late, but ikr? That's such a dumb detail to go on. I have 2 oc's that are around the same age with very different heights (one is 5'2 the other is 6'4) and there's not an issue with that. People in real life have differing heights, so why can't sashley's oc's have differing heights? It makes no sense, but whatever they want to believe I guess

    • @thatuzikinnie6077
      @thatuzikinnie6077 4 года назад +20

      My older sister is shorter than me and I'm younger than her-
      also a kid in my class is also the same age as me and they're so much taller than me.

    • @kimaniheath8881
      @kimaniheath8881 4 года назад +6

      My younger cousin is taller than me

    • @moonlight9689
      @moonlight9689 3 года назад +1

      When I was grade 5, there was a Grade 1 that was the same height as me

    • @froggyringu
      @froggyringu 3 года назад +5

      When I was 10 years old I had a birthday party....one of my classmates walked past my mom. She said hi to him and asked him who he was the father of....yes. He was almost twice her length...but he was tall and my mom was very short. XD;; I was taller than her when I was 15-16 years old.

  • @ocroleplayer9644
    @ocroleplayer9644 5 лет назад +594

    god I hate the 'one character is really tall and the other is super short the short one is a child' argument it's so stupid. I reach my boyfriend's middle chest and his shoulders on my toes. we're both adults. People are just short sometimes, and again, it could just be how they draw some stuff. I overexaggerate heights and sizes since I'm already short, so my short characters are really short and my tall characters are really tall. Saying drawing a size diff ship is the same as drawing pedophilia is wrong and can be harmful in bad situations. It makes me salty.

    • @Its_Asteria
      @Its_Asteria 5 лет назад +1

      @- ˏˋ leafsea ˊˎ - most likely but I could be wrong

    • @s.spinachepie3871
      @s.spinachepie3871 5 лет назад +37

      Oh no clearly you're wrong. She's so totally right about it and I have to break up with my boyfriend cause he's a foot taller 🤷‍♀️

    • @ocroleplayer9644
      @ocroleplayer9644 5 лет назад +33

      @@s.spinachepie3871 oh no ur right. how will i tell my parents or my bf of this news that was given to me my a goat. how tragic. (and for reference of anyone wondering, I'm about 5' and he's 6'7 ish. he big boy. I small.)

    • @Tamaki742
      @Tamaki742 5 лет назад +13

      @- ˏˋ leafsea ˊˎ - _the fuck is age coding????_

    • @liv4777
      @liv4777 5 лет назад +25

      I'm 4'10 and my boyfriend is 6'4, we are both legal adults, I'm so confused on how height = age

  • @maskeddude9892
    @maskeddude9892 5 лет назад +684

    "Her character are inspired in other people Oc's!"
    I've seeing a lot of artists working for companies i admire, such as Cartoon Network, Disney and Netflix
    And what is funny, they all say that, or their character of a beloved cartoon have a lot of inspirations of things they like, or that they are literally a fusion of two characters
    And they say to the children audience to do the same, because you can get something new and just as interesting as the old thing!
    So, If the adults who do art do what Sashy did, what is the problem that we, kids and teens still learnimg, do the same?

    • @SapphireSword-pd1ix
      @SapphireSword-pd1ix 5 лет назад +45

      When I heard Goat say that the very first thing that came to my mind was, "That's not a bad thing whatsoever. Many people in the cartoon and gaming industry have done that, hell, I've done that with my characters. It's called TAKING INSPIRATION!". This isn't plagiarism where somebody blatantly steals somebody's works for their own. If you can take two or more things and make something new out of them then they are a new character, not a rip-off or anything along the lines. To quote the Octomomma from the Spoctor Drama; Children! None you are mentally developed enough to understand this situation. Talk to your parents!

    • @asheshurricane391
      @asheshurricane391 4 года назад +23

      dude's not ready to hear about AUs lol

    • @NeiasaurusCreations
      @NeiasaurusCreations 4 года назад +4

      It's just mental retardation. See, I've noticed a trend in the deviant art community of...Questionable behavior. An example is when metokur was doing his deviants series, he encountered a few communities that literally tried to deplatform him out of fear of what he was going to say. All the series was is poking fun at some of the worst fetishes on DA, never really focusing on a person, but instead a genre. It was actually my first experience with deviant art. And the more I've learned, the less I like it, and it's users. There are a few exceptions, but not many. Ponder would probably be one from my knowledge anyways. So it doesn't surprise me that a site overrun with the most creepy, disturbing, nasty fetishes is also overrun by morons that overreact. The worst type though is the fetishing of minors, there's some truly gross shit involving kids as young as infants. And the most common excuse is "drawings don't have ages, they're not real!" And to that I say: You know you're intentionally drawing it to look like an infant, and then sexualizing that, it's pedophilia no matter how you look at it, and you need therapy before you hurt a real kid."
      There's this story from a person named "BlackBuster critic" where he made a video talking about someone on DA, and a while later he finds out that person had been convicted of raping like five children from ages 4 to 8 in horrific ways. I don't know, after all, I've seen and experienced from DA, I think no kid should EVER be allowed near that site. There's too much fetish shit, too many pedophiles, too many future sex offenders, and actually convicted sex offenders to think a kid should be allowed to be there. Parents that allow their kids to be on a nasty fetish site like DA needs to really really be informed of just what's on that site, and some of the lovely "Characters" you'll find. I actively refuse to even go look at someone's DA out of fear of landing on some FBI watch list.
      So out of everything involving DA, an artist taking inspiration or even directly copying people's work is nowhere NEAR my list. And I don't actually care about that. I'm more worried about there being kids on a site with sexual content, pedophiles, and sexualized content of children. That to me seems more worth DA communities time and attention...IF they weren't sick fucks or children that is. But then again, I'm not a user or member of a site like that. At least when you find that type of shit on youtube you can actually flag it and get it removed, especially content sexualizing kids at all. Not a fan of DA, not a fan of the community. And after all, I've seen, I'm glad my nerd interest ends at video games.

  • @lexiilee3901
    @lexiilee3901 4 года назад +657

    After watching this video, I would say that the only thing inherently "wrong" in the entire situation is minors partaking in DDLG kinks, but that's something that the parents of these children need to be held accountable for, not the children. Monitoring what your children are doing/watching/looking up should be important to a parent. I will also say, the age of consent in the US is between the ages of 16-18; I personally believe that children under the age of 16 should not be having sexual relationships, but again, parents should be accountable for their children and teaching them safety for those situations.

    • @SparDanger
      @SparDanger 4 года назад +17

      As a parent, I agree.

    • @riverzombie1504
      @riverzombie1504 4 года назад +19

      Ddlg isn’t inherently sexual. Most of time it actually isn’t. It is sort of like a safe space for when you get overwhelmed. The dom taking the responsibility of the sub away so they can relax for a bit. It can get sexual of course and that should be something that kids should definitely not be doing. But There wasn’t any evidence of such and the guy even stopped her from making it sexual. But I totally agree with you that children should not be doing such things.

    • @lexiilee3901
      @lexiilee3901 4 года назад +54

      @@riverzombie1504 ddlg is still a form of BDSM/kink though, and such things should not be explored by those under the age of 18

    • @tundrance
      @tundrance 3 года назад +40

      @@riverzombie1504 nope. you're describing age regression, which is a completely different thing. DDLG is a fetish.

    • @Silver_wind_1987_
      @Silver_wind_1987_ 3 года назад +4

      @@lexiilee3901 ie. Safe words and tons of fucking research out the arse.

  • @EmilyB-px6vy
    @EmilyB-px6vy 5 лет назад +1090

    We now live in a world where middle school drama is considered "hot tea" and comes fresh off the press weekly. This saddens me.
    This video, however, is fantastic. Thank you for addressing this in a proper manner rather than "lolololol hot tea, sis".

    • @yasmineh.1333
      @yasmineh.1333 5 лет назад +120

      People tend to confuse hot tea with hot piss

    • @TiffanyRay
      @TiffanyRay 5 лет назад +8

      this is honestly pathetic

    • @defunctaccount9803
      @defunctaccount9803 5 лет назад +12

      I'm gonna spill the hot tea on their face

    • @lycantreyski
      @lycantreyski 5 лет назад +22

      i’m not surprised. the animation meme/tween deviantart community are mostly kids between 7-13 :/

    • @agentfreshdasquid3568
      @agentfreshdasquid3568 5 лет назад +38

      The whole "tea" saying makes me angry in general. No one takes drama seriously, now it's all like, "lololol spill the tea owo"

  • @annepamgkrth
    @annepamgkrth 5 лет назад +207

    Sashay has been harrassed/bullied for years, that it just looks like people hate a young child for having talent. I didn't agree with the drama when it came out because of the hate she always has had. I'm not even in the meme community and I knew of the hate everyone had onto her. It's honestly sad and disappointing that children who(from a view from am outsider) are attacking another child for having an artist talent.

  • @illusiveaxeman9164
    @illusiveaxeman9164 3 года назад +208

    Nothing conveys how much of a child Goat is to me more than "they did the no-nos with each other." It sounds like something I would have said when I was 12.

    • @SUBM4CH1N3
      @SUBM4CH1N3 2 года назад +25

      THE NO-NOS I'M SOBBING

    • @xxpromlggamerproxx
      @xxpromlggamerproxx Год назад

      THE MOTHERFUCKING NO-NOS HAHAHAHA

    • @theghostkat
      @theghostkat Год назад +4

      i hate how it's trendy to use like Middle School terms like that now it was bigger at this time but its stil a thing it just makes me Cringe Up

    • @pappanalab
      @pappanalab 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@theghostkat It’s a result of censorship on social media. Words like suicide get changed to unalive to get around filter and the like. Eventually those words get used so frequently that they cross from internet slang to just irl slang and we get young adults who speak like little kids who are afraid to use the big kid words. Honestly, unless social media changes and stops acting like a particularly prudish teacher I doubt this trend will go away.

    • @ImYourCherryBomb
      @ImYourCherryBomb 9 месяцев назад

      @@theghostkatthat’s how slang works homie. Especially on the internet, and honestly more adults should stop caring what makes you and others cringe tbh

  • @starfish7344
    @starfish7344 5 лет назад +429

    Note on the character originality, got some anecdotal evidence. When I was Sashly's age, most of my characters and their backstories where either based off self inserts or copied from media I was inspired by. As I matured, so did my stories. My characters grew with me and their stories became more and more separate from the inspiration material, to the point that their completely my own ideas and stories.
    It's not that deep and it's surprisingly more common than people may think. Just let kids explore. (Soz, had to get that off my chest lol)

    • @creacherfeacher8232
      @creacherfeacher8232 5 лет назад +12

      Same here! I have a character who I vividly remember starting out as a self insert, minus flaws (yikes) when I created her in 7th grade. Now, 4 years later? She looks nothing like me, has a personality nothing like mine, has flaws, and is going to be used in an actual book I'm writing rather than the fanfic rp she was created for. Things change as people mature.

    • @galeg4021
      @galeg4021 5 лет назад +4

      My first set of OCs were bionicle ripoffs lol. They've been reworked upward of five times now and become the pantheon in a oc universe im writing.

    • @starima4226
      @starima4226 5 лет назад +3

      bro I have a magical space bear boy oc who's the protag of a story where there's other original characters with him that i made when i was older and more mature. where did _he_ come from though? an anime freddy fazbear i made five years ago LMFAO

    • @MooneyBabbler
      @MooneyBabbler 5 лет назад +2

      Yea at 14 my one character was literally just me with purple hair “traveling through the multiverse” (aka hanging out with every character I’ve ever even remotely liked), making friends with everyone they met unless said person was a meanie head, and solving every problem they came across with their many powers, including; being the demigod of the moon, reading minds, seeing the future, flying with wings made of water (don’t ask me how the flying heck that was supposed to work), controlling other people’s negative emotions but only their negative ones, and creating magic indestructible purple strings that came from her fingertips and could be used to make what ever the plot needed. Oh yea also she could literally come back from the freaking dead instantly. Children’s characters are gonna be stupid and unoriginal, it’s par for the course.

    • @creacherfeacher8232
      @creacherfeacher8232 5 лет назад

      @@MooneyBabbler oh my god, my OC started out as me with purple hair too! Lmfao

  • @welcometowallys8158
    @welcometowallys8158 5 лет назад +1000

    “A child acting like a child”
    And a 45 caliber pistol hurts

  • @lillysawoos5742
    @lillysawoos5742 4 года назад +158

    the funny this is, most of the discord screenshots could be set ups because it's not very hard to change your username on discord to be just like someone else's. just kinda thought to put that out there.

    • @pondersprocket2274
      @pondersprocket2274  4 года назад +102

      Realistically, that *should* be why people don't trust screenshots. But it isn't.

    • @edgarallanpoe209
      @edgarallanpoe209 4 года назад +22

      @@pondersprocket2274 there's more drama now, and anon is basically goat in this situation. they accused sashley of doxxing (with their proof being out of context trimmed screenshots) just because she sent a picture of some girls face in their DMs and they scribbled over the face and said "this is definitely the girls face guys!!! trust me sashley is so bad she uses checkered background which means she copies typh!!"

  • @CleverWitchArt_
    @CleverWitchArt_ 5 лет назад +428

    Also! I was EXACTLY LIKE Sashly when I was her age! I started drawing like Tribble-of-doom because of her COTW Series! Then I saw Hinauchi style and got some of my furry character at the times design kinda off her. Like her ears and hair. But seriously anyone who’s ever drawn for a career has at one point take from other people’s art and has put it in their own and slowly grown into their own...

    • @shintsukimi8530
      @shintsukimi8530 5 лет назад +4

      Same here! I had a Warrior's character who was based off of Dimstar's Past. She had the whole thing where she had a cut ear and was given a 2nd life, god it was a mess of a story.

    • @rae4417
      @rae4417 5 лет назад

      Ah Hinauchi, that name takes me back. Too bad she ended up being a pretty gross person.

    • @SparDanger
      @SparDanger 5 лет назад

      Same. I was into Digimon at the time and tried to replicate that style.

    • @BlackWolf-or2lv
      @BlackWolf-or2lv 5 лет назад +2

      Exactly. I started like, freaking 10 years old tracing Danny Phantom Characters. We were all children at some point. I feel like this was a elementary school drama in youtube grounds, dear lord.

    • @lpsparadise9874
      @lpsparadise9874 5 лет назад

      I made characters heavily based off Sans and Morro from Ninjago; so yeah.

  • @auggiemain
    @auggiemain 4 года назад +166

    Just saying but that whole thing where Goat shows screenshots of Sashleys sexual conversations is just disgusting. If I were Sashley I'd be mortified, not only because of these stupid allegations, but because now everyone is seeing my private sexual conversations. That's so gross.

    • @chaosincarnate7304
      @chaosincarnate7304 4 года назад +21

      True, this is why children shouldn't have sexual conversations online. If you get 'down with the sickness' just relieve it in other ways. Can't trust anyone online nowadays.

    • @Kuxt0r
      @Kuxt0r 3 года назад +10

      technically that itself is doxing

    • @Ghost-hr3rq
      @Ghost-hr3rq 3 года назад +7

      @@chaosincarnate7304 well they are going to be involved in them and we cant stop them

    • @ImYourCherryBomb
      @ImYourCherryBomb 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Ghost-hr3rq2 years late but, while you’re right we can’t stop them, they need to be educated and made very much aware that this sort of thing, their private, sexual messages, CAN be shared. What’s said in a private message might not stay private and internet safety is IMPORTANT.

  • @staggbones
    @staggbones 5 лет назад +771

    Goat: talks about sashly's unoriginal design
    Goat: has a design that's almost exactly similar to Scotch

    • @RADSPEON
      @RADSPEON 4 года назад +86

      Its even almost identical color shades, put the two colors together and there’s almost no difference between the two

    • @RaelynnDarkring_aeshes
      @RaelynnDarkring_aeshes 3 года назад +23

      Her style looked a bit like Alias' art style

    • @optiquemusic6204
      @optiquemusic6204 3 года назад +8

      All I can think is: why is Goat using a Male TTS voice?

    • @No1ZanelliFan
      @No1ZanelliFan Год назад +9

      @@optiquemusic6204 He goes by he/they pronouns

    • @cassiopeia_mori
      @cassiopeia_mori Год назад +8

      i literally thought this was scotch with a name change for like 3 minutes of the video 😭

  • @peanut2752
    @peanut2752 5 лет назад +1308

    nobody:
    goat catto: pls don’t get ponder involved!
    ponder: HEHE *IM INVOLVED*

    • @massivelegend3599
      @massivelegend3599 5 лет назад +36

      That was her basically screaming OH PLEASE DON'T PROVE ME WRONG WITH OUTSTANDING AMOUNTS OF EVIDENCE

    • @Bugonster
      @Bugonster 5 лет назад +41

      Also Ponder: Hippity Hoppity, Imma defend this property

    • @KirbyKips
      @KirbyKips 5 лет назад +30

      It’s almost as if they ADMIT their evidence is flawed

    • @peanut2752
      @peanut2752 5 лет назад +11

      KirbyKips facts. goatcatto was like “shit i fucked up. people see through that i’m being rude” and deleted that shit 😂

    • @peanut2752
      @peanut2752 5 лет назад +7

      Deadly Artist that’s why she’s like literally a big mom to everyone 😂 i love her

  • @senzabean
    @senzabean 4 года назад +80

    It gets me so heated that kids and full blown adults get so mad about copying, but 90% of available entry and intermediate work in any animation and illustration IS COPYING. An artist makes a reference sheet and style sheets that artists are to C O P Y in various poses and what not that are used. Most of these people want work in these industries, but say that the very skill that makes you desirable in these industries is beyond taboo.

  • @e.m1108
    @e.m1108 5 лет назад +539

    Catto deleted a big chunk of their video's after Spoctor uploaded his. They even apologized in the comments section. I feel bad for Sashley but, i feel bad for Catto because, she got a lot of hate comments from people trying to get them to delete their channel. Somebody even tried to get it suspended. I agree that what Catto did was wrong but, i disagree with people telling them to commit suicide and attempting to get their channel taken down.

    • @pondersprocket2274
      @pondersprocket2274  5 лет назад +188

      Hence my specifying that harassment isn't appropriate and that everyone involved are children and shouldn't be cancelled for childish mistakes. I definitely agree that Goat does not deserve to deal with extreme backlash for what was clearly a mistake.

    • @TheBlackDot00
      @TheBlackDot00 5 лет назад +22

      @@pondersprocket2274 Somebody just reported their Discord server too...Catto just posted about it...

    • @spyrelle3970
      @spyrelle3970 5 лет назад +35

      @@TheBlackDot00 I sympathise with them, hopefully they'll be able to use it as a learning experience as to why cancel culture's extremely dangerous.

    • @sourpuss1455
      @sourpuss1455 5 лет назад +14

      People need to learn to just give others the cold shoulder instead of telling people to kill themselves.

    • @CrazyAlienLady051
      @CrazyAlienLady051 5 лет назад +12

      People need to realize that everyone in this situation is young and, at a young age, you make a lot of mistakes.

  • @shadow-senpai
    @shadow-senpai 5 лет назад +111

    Interesting thing: the furry term for child porn is cub porn (cub by definition is a young mammal). If the character mentioned is a cub, then yes, it would confirm that the character could be a child which can lead by definition, child porn

  • @umbreoncoredenise
    @umbreoncoredenise 3 года назад +119

    1:18:19 "Their characters are both wolves so it's extremely odd that they would have such a height difference if they were the same age" Me 5"3 looking up at my buff 6"4 husband of the same age: Something's wrong here I can feel it.

    • @annoyingidiot6459
      @annoyingidiot6459 3 года назад +14

      Me 5'6 looking up at my 6'8 boyfriend: Damn, kids go crazy over the stupidest shit.

    • @strawber3seal_77
      @strawber3seal_77 2 года назад +9

      Yall's relationships sound so cute-

    • @GanymedeTheCorgiCat
      @GanymedeTheCorgiCat 2 года назад +2

      Sashley’s character is a species of cat now.

    • @Yipyipyay
      @Yipyipyay Год назад +4

      Me, 5' looking up at my 6'6" crush who's only 1 year older than me

  • @memeempress
    @memeempress 5 лет назад +163

    Breaking News: Local Octomom disciplines children that are not hers, again

  • @Cy-Kill_01
    @Cy-Kill_01 5 лет назад +117

    I hate, and I mean hate the whole “this is old drama but it’s still not acceptable” line. Especially here when then the person that the old “drama” is about is still in middle school.
    Life is about making mistakes, growing up is about making mistakes. Constantly bringing up the past of someone, especially the one of a 13 year old child, to vilify them like this is just wrong. It doesn’t allow the person to grow up and truly move on from those mistakes because what’s the point. And especially at sashleys age because she is so young and this is a critical part of her puberty and development all this shit is going to do is make her mindset “everyone hates me, so what’s the point in getting better or learning from my mistakes if everyone is just gonna keep bringing them up.”
    I had to pause the video after hearing that and just type this up. I had to get it out because that whole thing is a problem I’ve had and still have. I’ve grown up only having my mistakes and fuckups pointed out. It causes you to never move on, never truely learn from them and never forgive yourself. And at her age, that’s dangerous because she’s already at an emotionally unstable time in her life and that thinking could just send her over the edge.

  • @Chloebear-asmr1030
    @Chloebear-asmr1030 4 года назад +188

    Sashley: *draws picture of her character and another one hugging, writes fanfiction, or does anything*
    GoatCatto: Wait- thats illegal!

  • @MANTISNIXON55
    @MANTISNIXON55 5 лет назад +409

    ghost catto: dont get ponder involved guys
    everyone: mhm *nods in agreement*
    *later*
    ghost catto: why do i hear boss music-

  • @synnibear03
    @synnibear03 5 лет назад +435

    Not really proud of my Sash video, my opinions have changed heavily since my video was uploaded. I see now that my complaint about her being unoriginal was very stupid and dumb. I don't stand by a lot of what was said in my video.
    *But omg I was included in a ponder vid I'm about to fukin choke-*

  • @cyb3rg1rls
    @cyb3rg1rls 5 лет назад +87

    the 'a character cant be ageless' thing pisses me off. I haven't had characters in awhile bc I moved on from that, but I had tons of characters who didn't have an age/were ageless/DIDNT EVEN AGE! I had a lot of goddess/god characters as I was young, but when they were human they never had a set age. Even when I described them they had all sorts of different bodies and some of them even didn't have very 'busty' bodies like a 'child', and they weren't 'children' either since usually these were characters with a job. *Also, im 4'10 and 15, and my bf is 5'10 and 15, the height thing is bullshit too.*

    • @Silver_wind_1987_
      @Silver_wind_1987_ 3 года назад +4

      My OC silverwind took inspiration from megatron and knockout...from TFP, ghost rider and mythology. But she's a character I made for myself....she's me in some aspects such as I have a bad hip (Its 8mm short and sometimes bothers me), asbergers (I'm Austisic) and she's also a little (which I'm not but she does it because she's got ptsd from being a well...war vet) but i have her as a godly character...since well ITS FUN.
      My other character who's...slow working is named ace she's totally different from silver..and has only a few little demon aspects such as being a wolf.

    • @Silver_wind_1987_
      @Silver_wind_1987_ 3 года назад +3

      @jsda24 I love making ageless characters its alot of fun and helps me creatively

  • @lieutenantlemons2260
    @lieutenantlemons2260 5 лет назад +173

    53:19 I think they're saying 'I don't want her to be attacked or turn into birdie 2.0'

    • @pondersprocket2274
      @pondersprocket2274  5 лет назад +69

      That explains why I didn't understand it. I keep forgetting that Birdie stuff existed.

  • @TheBlackDot00
    @TheBlackDot00 5 лет назад +170

    Yikes, people were literally going after a hormonal teenager for being a hormonal teenager. Btw i love the thumbnail picture!

  • @missyboo9944
    @missyboo9944 4 года назад +218

    WOO. Okay. Man, didn't expect BDSM and DDLG to be brought up within a video outside of that field, but here I am. God my heart jumped. Hi hi! Yes, I am a member within that community. I partake within MDLG (Mommy Dom/Little girl) and am an Ageplayer and Little. This is a personal thing for me but it is apart of my life, and is a thing I do.
    I know this video is rather old, however, I feel as if I'd like to comment on it as there is a lot of misunderstandings and misinformation involving the subject spread around within the mainstream. I will be referring to the following subject around 22:29 and forward.
    DDLG (that of which falls under the CGL, aka Caregiver/Little umbrella, though it is important to note the definition varies between person to person) is a subset of BDSM and Kink that revolves around the relationship dynamic of a caregiver, often a parent and a little. The Dom is often the caregiver, and the Sub is often the little. Certain people can have different dynamics, and it is not limited to just being a Daddy and Little girl. Again, DDLG is a subset. Certain people also involve Ageplay/Roleplay within their BDSM, sometimes during scenes or other, and some people don't. Again, It all depends.
    Something that is usually stressed within BDSM and Kink is SSC and RACK. Now, what is SSC and RACK? To start, SSC stands for Safe, Sane, and Consensual. As quoted from kinkly.com on it's page about SSC, Safe means that the risk of activities should be understood by all participants and either eliminated or reduced as much as possible. Sane refers to the need to approach activities in a sensible and realistic frame of mind, and with an understanding of the difference between fantasy and reality. Consensual means that all participants have freely consented to the activity and were in a state of mind to do so. Now, of course, SSC is often used outside of the BDSM and Kink community and is questioned for it's usefulness since it implies that kink is without risk, despite the fact that is usually false. However, both RACK and SSC both agree on the notion of consent and discussion between both parties involved. I myself prefer the tenet of RACK, which stands for Risk-aware consensual kink. Once again quoting from kinkly.com, Risk-aware means that all the participants know the risks involved in the activity (BDSM activities are not always risk-free). Consensual means that all the participants have freely consented to the activity, and that no one has been coerced. Kink refers to alternative sexual activities. At the send of the day, it is consistently stressed within all communities that communication is KEY. Some parties create a contract, some parties involve a safeword, etc etc. We stress safety, and when children get involved, that breaks the line of safety. There is also the often used phrase NMIK (no minors in kink), which I myself also use, that stresses that BDSM and other kink related activities involve two consenting adults, and that minors should not be involved. This is the safety for both the adults within the community, and for children, ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN. DDLG and the like are not pedophilia. If an adult and a minor practice DDLG knowingly together, that is not the fault of our community, since we do not condone activity revolving that behavior. When we say no minors, we seriously stress 100% and beyond, NO MINORS. DDLG is between adults only. It is totally okay to be uncomfortable with DDLG. It's not everyone's cup of tea. However, it is important to understand it does not encourage pedophilia and is not an act of pedophilia.
    Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk, and good day. HAHA. Love ya Ponder.

    • @Dicezai
      @Dicezai 4 года назад +13

      Thank you for taking the time to educate others about this. You went so in depth and it really helped me understand a lot better, again thank you 🖤

    • @theblackcatgirl7013
      @theblackcatgirl7013 3 года назад +8

      You honestly deserve more likes and should be in one of the top comments. You are amazing

  • @StreamlineWorkshop
    @StreamlineWorkshop 5 лет назад +513

    Thank you for making this video Ponder, it touched and covered from everything I did discuss to everything I did very in depth and with an understanding I would not be capable of having. I’ve always been a fan of your videos so it’s been an honour to work with you on this situation.
    For anyone who may be reading this comment, while I agree with basically everything Ponder has said, do not go and harass those who are involved. Including Goat and including the guy who attempted to dox me. We’re kids, we all make very very stupid mistakes.

    • @5Geass
      @5Geass 5 лет назад +10

      @Sunset Howl the dude's a troll. Don't feed it.

    • @bendystraw976
      @bendystraw976 5 лет назад +1

      The meeting of the commentary goddessessss

  • @mythiighostii8314
    @mythiighostii8314 5 лет назад +83

    When I was 13 I did the same mistake as Sashley, except instead I posted the drawings online (some to CLOSE friends, I didn't show it to random people I just met), and I had an adult make a post about me without even coming to me first, saying I was a disgusting and toxic person for drawing the smut, along with other things, but I can't remember since the post was VERY long.... And of course like almost every child, I freaked out, I cried a lot and I deleted the account. (and no I won't give out the name, it was years ago and I don't wanna start a drama)
    I may have my opinions on the matter of teens drawing the smut, but I can agree that CHILDREN shouldn't be posting drawings of the smut on the internet because it can bring in some NASTY people that could mentally fuck them up because they don't know how to handle certain things yet. Personally (at a certain age), I feel teenagers are a little bit more mature when it comes to.....the naughty stuff. (especially since they are hormonal and will do it anyway) I mean for fucks sake where I live 16 is the legal age to consent to ANY age above to date/HAVE SEX, but oh noooo they can't post drawings of the smut.
    But that aside, I REALLY feel bad for Sashley. I hope she gets better, and thank you Ponder for the video

  • @ThatOneLeek
    @ThatOneLeek 4 года назад +131

    I know _I've_ told my aroace friend that I love them and think they're adorable and amazing, I know _I've_ told minors of ages 10-14 that I love them and think they're adorable and amazing despite not liking minors younger than me (15 going on 16), I know _I've_ told mY 24 YEAR OLD FRIEND that I love them and think they're adorable and amazing.
    All of the things Sashley said to Jleet about cuddles and good mornings and how amazing Jleet is DOESN'T INHERENTLY MEAN IT'S ROMANTIC OR EVEN SEXUAL. I'm going to SCREAM.

  • @whoopsydaizy
    @whoopsydaizy 5 лет назад +242

    Imagine telling someone, let alone a child, to kill themself over copying stuff.

  • @mysryuza
    @mysryuza 5 лет назад +62

    I love the convo between Empty Brooke and Ponder like yelling at each other XD

  • @kelinky-sama1603
    @kelinky-sama1603 5 лет назад +355

    ...Holy cow, somebody on the internet who doesn't equate DDLG to cp or child predation
    THANK YOU JESUS

    • @nesoru
      @nesoru 4 года назад +17

      YES FINALLY

    • @pancake5902
      @pancake5902 4 года назад +15

      Indeed

    • @ImYourCherryBomb
      @ImYourCherryBomb 9 месяцев назад +2

      4 years later but I feel this. I’m not even in DDLG but I have friends who are so yeah, glad to see people educated.

    • @DulyDownward
      @DulyDownward 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ImYourCherryBomb genuinely thank you for this. i don't wanna be tmi but there are cases of people involved both in age regression AND ddlg and uneducated people like to pretend ddlg is predatory when there are a lot of situations where ddlg is used as a coping mechanism just like age regression is. so it always gives me a bit more faith in the world to see someone who isn't involved themselves, yet they still understand that it isn't anything disgusting or predatory.

  • @penny2992
    @penny2992 5 лет назад +103

    I really wish that people would actually stand up to this stuff. Its happening all the time now , with the vast majority just acting like sheep, even with those affected first hand, namely the accused, too scared of doing anything about it.
    I am over-ecstatic that you and this community know how to defend the true victims of the dramas. Seriously this says a lot about how people get attacked over clearly false accusations and the near witch-hunts caused from lies.
    Please, anyone and everyone, stand up for yourself, the best way to shut people up is to openly state that others are wrong. Take it from me, speak up, it will be hard to begin with, but it is worth it.

  • @kristalkitsunedesigns6712
    @kristalkitsunedesigns6712 5 лет назад +84

    "Don't get Ponder involved"
    Okay, that's just asking for trouble.

  • @jadabristol8202
    @jadabristol8202 4 года назад +67

    Thank you! Thank you for actually speaking about kink, and representing the community without just shaming and writing it off as a mental illness or illegal activity. There are very very few youtubers who speak about kink in topics that aren’t completely biased and take it out of context. So thank you very much! The only thing I could even think of adding is just that kink and DDLG in particular have a pretty strict NMIK (no minor in kink ) rule, mostly for the safety of these people under 18, as kink relationship with power dynamics can be used to manipulate and groom minors, and as kids, they don’t realize what’s happening. It can be uncomfortable and unsafe for me a 19 year old, it can be worst for younger people too.

  • @massivelegend3599
    @massivelegend3599 5 лет назад +93

    Never thought ponder sprocket would be giving me a lesson on DDLG lol

    • @HelplessFangirl
      @HelplessFangirl 5 лет назад +23

      Somehow I wasn’t surprised. Kinkiness follows Ponder like a dog follows its owner

  • @VictoriaTurrubiateVickyC200216
    @VictoriaTurrubiateVickyC200216 5 лет назад +135

    Harassment is DEFINITELY not okay. Seriously. People Should learn not to harrass anyone

    • @VictoriaTurrubiateVickyC200216
      @VictoriaTurrubiateVickyC200216 5 лет назад +4

      Oh and asking people to not get Ponder involved is gonna get her involved ANYWAY! LIKE HOW CAN YOU EXPECT PEOPLE NOT TO GET INVOLVED WHEN YOU LITERALLY INVITED YOURSELF TO GET PONDER TO GET INVOLVED! X'D

    • @rainlily3-oh-5
      @rainlily3-oh-5 5 лет назад +2

      Honestly it's shocking that this isn't common sense to some people.

  • @princessuni767
    @princessuni767 4 года назад +43

    I know this video is months old but I wanna say that if sashley has had a difficult past then the ddlg relationship with her being the little could possibly be a coping mechanism for her, as many littles use the title “little girl” for. There are two sides to ddlg, the nsfw side and the sfw side called agere, where many littles use the trust they have with their caretaker as a way to come to terms and heal from past trauma or to make up for the lack of care as a child.
    I’ve done my research because I am a little and I wanted to stay away from the kink because I am asexual and don’t feel comfortable in sexual situations. However it is completely acceptable for her to be in a ddlg relationship with someone in the SAME age group.

  • @chinjireta
    @chinjireta 5 лет назад +1493

    i really really appreciate this video. i've been watching this on and off for the past 3 days (because i'm super busy and i can't watch a 2 hour video all in one sitting, unfortunately-) but once i finished it i was super glad i did!! you made a lot of amazing points and said pretty much exactly what i was thinking. i'm glad someone as big as you spoke out about it ^_^

  • @_eri_7601
    @_eri_7601 5 лет назад +123

    I see this drama unnecessary. She’s a minor, she’s growing; she’s got hormones. She makes mistakes.

    • @alexangelkitten433
      @alexangelkitten433 5 лет назад +1

      _ Eri_ thats exactly what ponder was saying lol

    • @Villain_Azilla21602
      @Villain_Azilla21602 4 года назад +3

      Wow I didn't even hear about the drama but I myself went through a similar situation and drama like ms shashly did granted my drama was way worse and lead my mom to find out my rps that are sexual however I have harmones and sashley isn't really alone here I've been where she was if u don't believe me look up the drama and it's TRUE I'm however sorry that she went through this I hope she is alright.
      But goodday

  • @MIKEYYZN
    @MIKEYYZN 4 года назад +77

    Sashley: _takes the littlest breath_
    GoatCatto: *T A R G E R T A C Q U I R E D*

  • @V-Dragon
    @V-Dragon 5 лет назад +121

    Le Goat Child: -dramatically dramatic-
    Also Goat Child: Why do I hear Persona 5 boss music-

  • @Dizaster1995
    @Dizaster1995 5 лет назад +82

    Goat says "for the love of God don't get ponder involved"
    What I heard from that is "don't tell ponder, I don't want to be proven insanely wrong"

    • @sommerblume9671
      @sommerblume9671 5 лет назад

      Dizaster studios Or maybe they don’t want even more drama/hate comments cause they’re trying to learn. But people will just continue to vindicate... as seen here

    • @Dizaster1995
      @Dizaster1995 5 лет назад +1

      @@sommerblume9671 depends who you ask then I guess

    • @xxkittyxx2599
      @xxkittyxx2599 5 лет назад +3

      @@sommerblume9671 Maybe they shouldn't make a shit video and accusing people then.

  • @origamiworm5808
    @origamiworm5808 4 года назад +65

    Hearing a text-to-speech bot repeatedly saying 'J-L-E-E-T' really makes you loose the will to live, I tell ya.

  • @ravioliravioli2395
    @ravioliravioli2395 5 лет назад +281

    I love watching Ponder’s vids. Not because the drama (although that is entirely interesting, and in-which fun to listen too.) I mostly click on to see ponders amazing art! As artist myself I enjoy seeing the different styles and the different makings of what ponder does. It helps motivate
    me to improve and continue. Thank you for the inspiration! :)

  • @heliianth
    @heliianth 5 лет назад +277

    God, I'm around her age. Granted, I wasn't on the internet at the age Sashley was, but the internet definitely does impact you a lot. I've learned so many things about people and relationships over the internet, and I've also learned a lot more about how some people and ideologies are complete garbage.
    For me, my experiences have aged me. I don't like being a child, I don't like doing childish things, I don't like communities with a lot of other children. But that really doesn't seem to be the case for Sashley, and it doesn't need to be. She can do what she wants. People have different comprehension levels. She's actually really good at what she does, I'm impressed as another artist! Animation takes talent, and she has a lot of it!
    While it's annoying to have your opinion discredited BECAUSE you're a young human without a 2 in front of their age, it makes me feel glad that other people my age are being defended in the face of so much personal drama like this. I imagine myself in Sashley's shoes and, honestly, it's scary. The internet is huge, theres a lot of people on here. And having a lot of people turn in your direction to "cancel" you for an honest mistake, or something that you don't understand, is also scary. It's terrifying. The very best thing you can do without intervention in this situation is to tell an adult, or talk through it with more mature people so that you CAN understand. But from the mention of neglect, I don't think Sashley has a person to do that with.
    TL;DR, I think we need to start showing Sashley more compassion and empathy instead of blasting her for something that's actually pretty normal at our age. The amount of ridiculous drama at my school is uncountable, and that's only around 600 kids total. Imagine a school full of millions of people with different views, cultures, ages, and personalities. It's a recipe for disaster.
    Thanks for doing what you do, Ponder.

    • @yasmineh.1333
      @yasmineh.1333 5 лет назад +17

      THIS.

    • @lushbear04_old
      @lushbear04_old 5 лет назад +6

      Yes!!

    • @meaganoages4672
      @meaganoages4672 5 лет назад +8

      PREACH HUNNY

    • @j.h170
      @j.h170 5 лет назад +7

      viviixen you took the words out of my mouth and put them into this thoughtful comment, as a thirteen year old like you and Sashley, I completely agree with what you said.

    • @TheBlackDot00
      @TheBlackDot00 5 лет назад +7

      If i was around Sashley's age right now...id be ranted on and cancelled already 😳

  • @dasutanehineri
    @dasutanehineri 4 года назад +43

    "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T GET PONDER INVOLVED"
    "i'm involved ;)"
    literally my favorite moment of the video so far

  • @Hallofang
    @Hallofang 5 лет назад +114

    "Don't get Ponder involved"
    Mmm, why? Could it possibly be cause she uses _common sense, logic and reason_

  • @Alien--Bunny
    @Alien--Bunny 5 лет назад +73

    Screenshots suck. This is why metadata is important. Thanks LegalEagle.

  • @chaoticegg1770
    @chaoticegg1770 4 года назад +60

    No one should be blaming the child or victim for sexual actions with a adult or also a older person knowing it's wrong. They can not consent as a legal child, for the people that did not consent as legal adult, should NEVER BE BLAMED FOR HAVING THAT HAPPEN TO THEM!!! *takes a deep breath* you are a bad human if you think the victim is the one that should be punished for "not stopping it." You should go into the corner and stay there, for ever please.

  • @QuestionedTurkey
    @QuestionedTurkey 5 лет назад +389

    Loved the video! You have a really impressive ability to break down and dismantle arguments! Great job on this
    also... 1:41:59 OwO thats me

    • @pondersprocket2274
      @pondersprocket2274  5 лет назад +81

      Hell yeah, because your video on the drama was good and I'm really glad you made it pointing out that this stuff was bull.

    • @QuestionedTurkey
      @QuestionedTurkey 5 лет назад +55

      ive been trying pretty hard to not repeat my past shit so it means a lot coming from you, thanks

    • @RaelynnDarkring_aeshes
      @RaelynnDarkring_aeshes 3 года назад +6

      Hey unrelated but I remember you from the animation meme community

    • @xmaskedartistx
      @xmaskedartistx 3 года назад +2

      @@RaelynnDarkring_aeshes yeah me too

  • @ArendAlphaEagle
    @ArendAlphaEagle 5 лет назад +76

    "Please don't get Ponder involved"
    Well, that failed miserably, didn't it Goat?

  • @Honeybeeteatime
    @Honeybeeteatime 4 года назад +45

    “YOUR ACTING LIKE A CHILD”
    Sashley:”I’m a Child what’s your excuse”

  • @NOTDeezy.
    @NOTDeezy. 5 лет назад +52

    13 years and already involved in drama with hundrets of people spitting on her?
    dude when i was 13 i drew my little pony alicorn ocs

  • @shydemonuwu341
    @shydemonuwu341 5 лет назад +45

    "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT GET PONDER INVOLVED"
    PONDER:(sniffs air)
    Ponder:IM INVOLVED

  • @ennipumpkin
    @ennipumpkin 4 года назад +96

    My mom died.
    Goat: BLAME SASHLEY
    I got cancer
    Goat: BLAME SASHLEY
    The world ended
    Goat: BLAMESASHLEY.

  • @jordancarroll8624
    @jordancarroll8624 5 лет назад +87

    "Don't get Ponder involved!"
    You are basically begging for her to get involved when you say that.

  • @dragonrage122
    @dragonrage122 5 лет назад +70

    "Don't tell Ponder" is like speaking of the devil. you will immediately find them in your hat.
    that being said, this was hard to get through. kids really shouldn't be exposed like this, not on this level of drama.

  • @BumBunnyGacha
    @BumBunnyGacha 4 года назад +65

    Forget the drama. Forget the goat person. Let’s talk bout that heccin character
    She beautiful uwu. THE FRICCEN FRECKLES R BEAUTIFUL

  • @apelsinaviciute
    @apelsinaviciute 5 лет назад +51

    "Don't get Ponder involved."
    Ponder: Hold my tentacles.

  • @longlivetheking69
    @longlivetheking69 5 лет назад +44

    goatcatto: don't get ponder involved
    *ponder sprocket, spoctor, streamline workshop, and p much every other commentary youtuber on the planet has entered the chat*

  • @feelthismagic
    @feelthismagic 5 лет назад +114

    I think Scootaloo was being a hypocrite about the character thing. Her main character is LITERALLY a mlp character.

    • @queenorat5645
      @queenorat5645 4 года назад +25

      She made a follow-up video on it, and why and how her first video was dumb

    • @strawberryj3lly
      @strawberryj3lly 3 года назад +1

      I’m a year late but ole girl is literally besties with Birdie soooo

    • @feelthismagic
      @feelthismagic 3 года назад

      @@strawberryj3lly makes sense tbh

    • @BestCatWizard
      @BestCatWizard 3 года назад +9

      @@strawberryj3lly update again again, Synni aka Scoot is no longer friends with Birdie or involved. You can watch the video on her channel that talks about her drama :) good ending

    • @tabithapritt6895
      @tabithapritt6895 Месяц назад

      HUGE UPDATE* Synnibear (Scoot) has actually been grooming a minor

  • @artisticallyinadequate5858
    @artisticallyinadequate5858 5 лет назад +34

    Ever since spocter the art community has been really thirsty... Thank you for standing up for all these people and setting the story IN FULL

    • @apothisiii5549
      @apothisiii5549 5 лет назад +4

      Not gonna lie. I read your comment in pooh's voice.