Could UK Have Won The Falklands War If Soviets Had Invaded The Islands? (WarGames 204) | DCS
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Today we run an alternative history mission. What if in 1982 the Soviets had invaded the Falklands islands instead of the Argentinians, how would the British have faired?
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This showed the limitations of the technology at the time. Very interesting.
I would still like to see GR do the mission against Yamamoto.
And I know it's not popular but I really love the A4 and f5 because they are pretty amazing light fighters. I wish we could see a scenero of GR doing such. I have a couple of ideas but you have so many people offering suggestions.
What mission against the Yamato are you talking about because they've done many simulations that have the Yamato included
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@@grimreapers How about CH Upgrades the Yam to a modern spec - 100 CIWS and 1500 VLS cells - and do Ten Go again until the Yam goes down?
Way back in 1982, I was in the US Navy, stationed on the submarine tender in Holy Loch Scotland. A few days after the Falklands War kicked off, I noticed that almost daily, there were an incredible number of jet contrails running north to south in the sky above - so numerous and thick that it could have almost been considered a secondary cloud layer.
For some reason, I had an odd feeling that this wasn't just due to military cargo aircraft flying back and forth to the US, due to the number and direction, so I did a little checking. When I discovered that the RAF still had Vulcan bombers and Victor tankers in service, and did some checking of distances and ranges, I came up with the wild theory (at least my shipmates called it wild at the time) that those contrails were due to the RAF flying practice missions, to try and stage a long range bombing raid on the Falklands.
And to be honest, my wild theory was influenced by stories related years before by one of my father's friends. This gent had been in the US Army during WWII, and in particular at Anzio, and had related some of the seemingly insane tactics used by the British Army and the RAF - and with that in the back of my mind, I was thinking, "This is crazy enough, that they're going to be tempted to try it".
To say that I was literally floored when that bombing raid came to pass, and my wild theory proven right, would be an understatement.
Probably the Vulcan's and Victor tankers returning from practice runs on Garvie island off Cape Wrath in Scotland - it was used for bombing practice as the Vulcan's hadn't been used for conventional bombing for years. Infact they were due to be scrapped and some of the conventional bomb racks had to be brought back from a scrap yard to be fitted!
The Argentine recovery planes were ready at the end of 1981 and undoubtedly US and British intelligence knew about it. Surely they let us act because it was convenient for them, in England due to the crisis a military cutback was being discussed and the mission in the islands would surely annul it, also a quick victory would help Thatcher in his next elections. On the Argentine side, although the initial mission was only one of recovery and withdrawal to make way for diplomatic negotiations, the junta later saw that it could be an opportunity to give more popularity to its disastrous government and that is why it betrays the withdrawal plan and decides to remain. in the islands, however there was no intention to go to war, their plan was to solve it diplomatically and we only realized that we were in an irreversible war on May 2 with the sinking of the Belgrano, until that day we were thinking of accepting the diplomatic agreement presented by the Peruvian Belaunde Terri and supported by the United States... in that sense thatcher uses the attack on Belgrano to destroy said agreement.
I was shocked that no one ratted me out for the UH OH....I accidentally jettisoned all of my ordinance. 😂
I was wondering fire what that meant….. hahaha
did you collide with cap over the sound? or were you both just hit at the same time?
@@ryabow my stance is that he collided with me!
@@Firedad376 that’s what I thought watching it. In hindsight you guys probably should have gone trail and max throttle before cresting that last hill.
Fire certainly “did a thing” 😂
If the Soviets invaded the western hemisphere you can bet the US would be there with the Brits.
Assuming they could get there lmao. The commies don’t and never did have the force projection capability to support an operation like this
at this time there was no anti soviet propaganda and they were being coached by the us about how tonlie to their citizens...
the us didnt get involved again, because it was a colonized land and not the uks ... the us would have been with the uk but they didnt... and wouldnt intervene. and im glad they didnt.
Actually no lol. America was the one who trained and armed the Argentinians to take the islands. They effectively told the Argentinians to take them to buy their loyalty to the USA.
Until Margaret thatcher told them they’d go all the way to nuclear to win the war and wouldn’t lose to a banana republic.
Which is when America was forced to supply the sidewinders and offer the carrier group.
The US and had submarines down there. One of which the argies detected when looking for HMS conqueror. It was an ugly war. And the U.S. seeing Russian involvement would have thrown Britain under the bus to stop nuclear war with Russia and would have got their special relationship and Argentinian lapdog.
Britain would have been fucked. Effectively
Immediate Article 5.
They would never even make it across the ocean.
It is nice to see my Yak livery.
Thanks! Linked in vid description.
President Ronald Reagan had the the U. S. S. IWO JIMA ready to "loan" to the Brits in case they lost a Carrier.
and they lost many... too many to recover losses and faster than could be replaced... theyd just be sending it in for slaughter in a confrontation they had no business being in... im pretty sure it was just a way to say, " im on your side" and then just watches and laughed as they were taken down ... really dumb of the uk to fight over something that was never theirs.
Well, they almost did...
alos offered one of the kitty hawk class of carrier
but i dont think we had anything to put on it except a few buccaneer and a few phantoms
In that case US will be in war with argentina because you cant operate a carrier you dont have..Its not like a friend giving the keys of his car...
Simba on point and the last one down . . . right on Simba. great mission you guys. 👍
Could you retry with the French invading ? This might be a bit more realistic and fun : France had sold equipment to Argentina a few years before, so let's imagine a funny scenario there, the French sending their own carrier fleet with super étendards and crusaders. In reality France did send a carrier fleet with the Foch in the area to defend French interests, so this would just be an unfortunate aggravation of the situation...
No point, the French would switch sides half way threw.
To be fair Britain sold equipment to ARgentina too - hence the irony of british doctors operating on argentinian soldiers in a field hospital that had been bombed (without them knowing it was a hospital) by the Argenitian airforce, with a british bomb that sat then unexploded in the corner of the operating room...
Hi Cap and co, I’ve noticed that RUclips really does treat your content differently than other creators, and not in a good way. How strange and disappointing. Your content is great please keep producing it, it has encouraged me to take up DCS, which I plan to do in the next 12 months. I think DCS s amazing and it is obviously put together and maintained as a labour of love.
why do you thibk youtube treats him differently? this is always in my feed as it ahould be.
?? what are you talking about ??
According to the YT analytics I can only reach 20% of my subscribers, I guess the other 80% have to check the channel manually which is a real pain in the butt.
it's unsubcribed me twice already cap, i have to manually check quite a bit; but lately after binging a bunch of growling sidewinder and C.W. Lemoine you started showing up on my front page. @@grimreapers
@@grimreapers I found that you went away for a while and slowly coming back. No idea why.
I haven't been part of this channel for some time now. I will not subscribe due to the religious content.
When I hear religious context 3 times. I stop the video, give a thumbs down and move on to another video or a different channel.
Out of all the DCS channels, this is my favorite. I watch this channel for the banter.
I have no problems receiving videos from this channel.
British Navy “The task force to take the falklands back from Argentina is ready for sail!”
MI6 “ Oh no we’ve just received intel the Soviets are the ones who invaded the island!! Suggest beefing up task force to face the Soviet’s!”
British Navy “No.”
To be honest i'd give the RN in 1982 a decent chance against the Soviet Navy in the South Atlantic, it's a long way from Soviet bases, Soviet fleets were not great at operatng long distances away from home (I'm not sure they could even have managed it with surface ships). The main threat would have been attack subs but the RN was pretty good at ASW - essentially hunting soviet subs was what the fleet was based around in those days and RN Hunterkillers were excellent (2 essentially neutralised the entire Argentinian navy in the real conflict).
If the Soviet Navy had for whatever reason had tried this a USN CVBG would have by all likelihood met it in the Atlantic with a very strong suggestion to sod off north again
Just a small point but there were only 2 Kilo Class subs in 1982, also more likely they would have sent at least some SSNs. Simlarly trying to land a Mig-25 at Port Stanley would be interesting - the strong winds there were why Mount Pleasant was built.
The twin mount modification for the sidewinder (only on the Sea Harrier) was rushed into service during the actual Falklands War but did not play a part in the historical war (Arrived too late)
Not to mention after the war the RAF had to install arrestor gear to operate Phantoms from the runway at Port Stanley, until it was lengthened. I think big fast Mig25s (or anything similar) operating from Stanley during the war is a non-starter.
The russians had 10 yaks they where not a threat ahahha
@@ccbb6387 they were a threat, only to their own pilots though!
Good points thanks.
@@ibex485 we ran interlocking pannels out that move with every landing and every so ofthen we had to dismantle parts at one end and move then up the other end like a conveyor belt.
It was eerily similar to the news reels from the time when you did the low level fly-by in the sound while the ships were shooting at you.
Great one. Once again Simba is wearing his Teflon underpants.
they might be little brown collered lol. thank for watching.
@@simba1113
The military only has them in brown....lol
The long camera shots around T=30 look very much like the actual videos of the A-4 attacks during the actual war. And Cap, you always seem to forget to turn off the water after takeoff in the Harrier.
I sure do!
Brill vid Cap - particularly liked your first take-off in the Harrier! Also, DCS really does have better animated water than MSFS2020.
I missed this one when it came out, really good job, one of the best I have seen from GR.
The irony of using the ARA Santa Fe as the British subs...
I take it DCS doesn't have any Oberon, Churchill, Valiant or Swiftsure class submarines?
No point, the French would switch sides half way threw.
The sub might even be a threat to a Soviet battle group.
@@anthonyb5279 who said anything about the French?
@@williamhendrick903 Oops wrong thread.
Staffer: The Falklands have been taken!
Thatcher: Send a Vulcan.
Staffer: Taken by the Russians, not the Argentinians...
Thatcher: Right. I see. Send two Vulcans.
Staffer: TWO Vulcans?
Thatcher: Yes I know that's overkill but they need a lesson.
Staffer: Very well, two Vulcans it is.
lol
Thatcher: Thank you Darling
Staffer: Stop calling me Darling 😂
Funny Only one vulcan reach the island and only ONE bomb impact at one side of runway...It was repaired and camouflaged to look that is wasnt repaired...but the C 130 hercules operate until the last night of the battle....
If you had pulled a "Doolittle Raid", and landed after your attack most of you probably would have survived.
Nice one, Cap! Really shows the limits of missiles, radar, etc from that era. FRS1 did well against Mirages at their max range, as they stayed low where the longer reach of their BVR missiles was negated. Interesting to see AI Mig-25 try to duke it out at lower level.....
I had not idea until I made this how bad Mig-25 was. Those really were the best missiles they carried.
You guys crack me up. I don't even play DCS. Love the people's champ. What happened to Kortana? She was hilarious
Her IRL job keeps her away sadly.
Wooowww I've been quietly watching alot of your Videos of the last couple of years and have to say I'm blown away at the skill of all those taking part in what ever mission you 's have done for the enjoyment of us the viewers ,,, BUT this time holy shoot you all Did an amazing job , I watched the whole Video and was quietly thinking this one is gonna get very messy for the "Grim Reapers" ( btw very fitting name ;) ) so I watched the whole video tied to me chair as the sh t started to get thrown your way saw the cut scene of the ship firing that first volley where Cap and I think it was Firedad ? were lost , watching the rest of the flight immediately taking evasive action was a thrill to watch and also the fact that everyone stayed calm as hll and just got on with the job .... Gentlemen you are ALL a very Well Disciplined ,Experienced bunch of " gamers " that take PVE ( and also PVP , LOL ) to another meaning of gaming ,,my respect to you all .... Btw I'm Ex Mil UK R.A.C 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards ( just so you know that when someone like me gives you all a Compliment then you KNOW ITS Meant as a deserving Compliment to ALL of your Team ,, I only wish I had the Experience to join you's lol ,unfortunately I don't have DCS or the Experience to fly as well as you all do lol ,but hell it would be fun just tobe flying with you all !! Respect from an OLD Fart !!! FTW !!
An idea for another video is a follow-up where the Americans arrive and there is a battle between the remaining Soviets versus the remaining Brits and the US carrier/strike group.
The only game that sounds so realistic.
Mig-25s really didn't do as well as I thought they would! With the size of the runway, it would be interesting to see what the SU-27 (i think it was around in 1982), Mig-21 & Mig-23 etc would've been like in this conflict.
Great video Cap! I love these legacy fights where people get down with the air-equivalent of fists and teeth
The great UK equalizer that is difficult to portray in DCS is the 3x SSN. I am pretty sure that would counter the Sovs' major naval platforms.
Yeh sadly we have no way to model subs in big battles like this, they are just props.
The air war in the north was a tactical win beyond the bombing of that field.
Cool YAK's!
Harriers in Yak-38 livery is something else....
Made me feel dirty.
Looks like the AI Navy pilots were set to Plucky Brit skill level
Nice Hop! 😎
Right at the end, Simba bouncing around all on his own, missiles being launched at him.... Skills.
I would guess that the reason the Soviet Yak's and MiG-25's got smashed is because the DCS AIM-9L is a much better missile than the R-60M, especially when being fired head-on.
I guess so. Fight was too chaotic to analyse.
I just love this! Such a nice thoughout scenario! So fun to watch! I just have the slight concern that launching aircraft from a civilian vessel maaay be considered some kind of war crime.... But anyway! Cool battle! Keep it going!
They launched hurricats from merchants in the Mid Atlantic in ww2, and retrofitted them with AAA, merchants are targets, so no reason not to defend themselves.
@@Davros-vi4qgnot only that but the British actually did that during the falklands. They had a couple of their container ships and we're using them as makeshift carriers
@Davros-vi4qg Atlantic Conveyor. The ship was refitted, allowing it to both carry and fly Harriers and helicopters, and left Plymouth on 25 April 1982.
GREAT SCENARIO! Next time have the Argies attack from the west while the Reds attack from the east with the Brits holding the Islands.
Would be so cool to see a modelled yak 28 vs the sea harriers. Top notch as always team!
Geez man! Show me on the doll where the Yak touched you!
Great mission!
Jesus! My hands were sweating watching that, chaps! Good effort.
Something to remember: The Soviets had this kind of combat power, assuming everything worked, but they had no logistical capability to support this kind of deployment. If they had tried, the US would have responded with at least 1 CBG, and WWIII would have started.... and those mentioning the Western Hemisphere are correct. Ronnie would NOT allow the Sovs to get a foothold.
0:00 The very first question that must be asked is, Could the Soviets even get a fleet to the Falklands? When they tried to operate their carrier in the Med, they had to tow it home.
Modern UK carriers are just as bad unfortunately
In hind-sight, would you have taken the ship instead of the base? I think you should have made that the primary with the base a secondary.
Fair comment.
Cool to watch
Love the Harrier!! Great mission
The UK sent an entire taskforce within days to he opposite side of the hemisphere and won. The Russians couldn't post a parcel that far without it breaking down...
Don't be so sure. The Soviet Union was a very different beast than today's Russia.
I got my Thrustmaster today got it set up and it's going to be hell to learn to use it after playing keyboard and mouse for a month.
I can't even imagine playing DCS with keyboard and mouse.
@@smugfrog8111 i actually got pretty damn good at it.
@@t.r.4496 I bought a Thrustmaster "Full Kit" set as my first HOTAS before I ever downloaded DCS. So I never even tried with a keyboard and mouse. Trust me, it's gonna be an incredible change. You got VR or eye tracking?
Welcome to the tribe, brother.
Awesome
When the Falklands war happened the US kindly looked the other way in terms of the Monroe Doctrine. Had the Soviets invaded the Falklands I really doubt the US would have held back. They possibly would have responded faster than the Brits. Cool mission btw, I love the Harrier.
A very "Battlestar Galactica" takeoff/mission on your part CAP.
Actually it's more historical than you think. As the British did use a container ship as a makeshift carrier during the Falklands operation
Atlantic Conveyor. The ship was refitted, allowing it to both carry and fly Harriers and helicopters, and left Plymouth on 25 April 1982.
Me: "I can't believe the ships got hits with the cannon!......... oh, nvm"
Caught that did ya?
At 19:48 I swear I could hear a squadron of T-65s!
They certainly gave those trucks what for :D
This is an interesting scenario. I figure that the Soviets probably would have used MiG-21s or 23s over Foxbats but they might have brought out the heavy artillery. The AA-6 missile wasn't known for its accuracy and the R-60 might have done a little better but they didn't have much range. Now if the Soviets had used those Foxbats in close formation and high above the Harriers those Harriers might have been in big trouble.
Should make this into a campaign with a follow on mission
I enjoyed this video - usually I'm a critic. But this one nothing to complain about. The scenario made sense, you werent having a battle which would decide a war - which is probably more realistic than not (a lot of times you have battles of everyone vs everything. I think keeping surface and anti-ship combat out of it was good - I find your DCS vids that go beyond air combat and SAM defense a bit unrealistic because of modeling and AI limitations (no fault on you). I really just loved the scenario of flying low and attempting to evade SAMs as necessary, and the diversionary dogfight between mediocre aircraft.
I recently watched a video comparing the average lancaster and the B29 super fortress and would love to see a grim reapers comparison verson on the practicality, punch and survivability of the two bombers.
do the Peral Harber attack with 1942 technology, but give the us time for the ship to just be leaving port say 8hr the time it would take to get ships underway.
Awesome video. I want a Harrier.
Cuban missile crisis assault would be interesting. Hard to simulate the tactical nukes the soviets deployed though.
She may be old but the Harrier is a beautiful aircraft.
I was aboard the Eisenhower at that time on a Mediterranean deployment. Had this scenario come to pass, MAYBE (??) there would be an emergency sortie out of the Med, depending on what Maggie and Reagan discussed and how the battle progressed, NATO Article 5, et. al., if Kirov was about, definitely priority 1 to be sunk at whatever cost it took to do so, most likely via submarine(s) taking first shots.
I know this is just a bit of fun but how did the "Soviets " get MIG 25s to the south Atlantic? With a Take-off run of 1,200 m and a Landing run of 800 m. on a 918m runway!!!!! how would the operate? As for the ships it was a Royal Navy submarine that photographed the bottom of the Kiev class carrier in the middle of a major soviet exercise so I think the soviet navy would not last long.
As already stated below, the response would be done by NATO not just UK alone.
UK acted alone IRL
Could you do cb-90h with rbs 17 vs s-400 battery in Crimea. For um reasons.
CAP. Can you do a video on the club-K missile system
DCS Needs to start treating submarines as underwater aircraft. All with a hard service ceiling of the waters surface. Should be much simpler to model and more realistic.
This should be an E-Sport...
Now do a follow up, Americans show up with marines and a carrier group and take it back.
Sea Dart & the then "new" Seawolf systems were extremely effective in open waters when their radars could maintain a constant lock.
The Brits had a hard enough time against a couple thousand Mexicans with good automatic rifles... lol
Idea: Another video doing the same thing basically, but Desert Storm 1991. Soviets decide to throw in behind the Saddam H. regime and defend Iraq from the coalition invasion using the best equipment they had available at the time. I remember after Desert Storm there was a lot of commenting about how atrocious Soviet/Russian equipment was based on how easily the coalition beat the Iraqi's. The fact is though the Iraqi's for the most part did not have the most up to date equipment, much of it was old or obsolete by the contemporary standards of the USSR at the time. Their military was also depleted of supply from the Iran-Iraq war. Their tanks, for the most part, didn't have proper APFSDS rounds. They were using APFSDS rounds they had manufactured themselves using mild steel, basically useless. Their Air Force was tiny, depleted of supply, poorly maintained and undertrained. Their whole military was poorly trained and led. I am not saying that if the Iraqi's had the best up to date Soviet equipment or even better training/leadership and morale that they would have won. However, I think the conception that was formed was that all USSR equipment was complete garbage and that the US/coalition would just steam roll against anyone using their equipment. I don't think that is true at all. If we had faced Soviets in Iraq with their best equipment and if their forces were highly motivated that coalition casualties would have been much, much higher. It would have been a much more brutal war for the coalition side.
Nice...
When you were explaining the Russian invasion force and said you had to sub in an invincible for a keiv, I thought you were going to say it kept breaking down and you couldn't get it to work! I was waiting for a chuckle but it never came. So disappointed
Those Yak's were woeful, the ordnance carrying capacity of a Budgie and the range of a wet fart. The aircrafts comedy automatic ejection system made them more of a danger to themselves than the enemy too (if they ever got to the merge!), Soviet pilots hated them.
The West: *Builds a "VTOL" plane that really needs to do a short take off to actually be effective without mid-air refuelling*
Soviets: "We can do better!"
*Builds plane that needs mid air refuelling after ANY takeoff, assuming it actually takes off*
LOL SO TRUE
Still killed less pilots than the Harrier. And no the ejection seat only had Its automatic ejection on when in VTOL.
@@barbarapitenthusiast7103 not when taken in to account with the numbers of each aircraft type that were actually produced and used in service vs pilot losses, then its pilot attrition rate sky rockets.
It ain't over until the body positivity lady identifying person sings!
That;s what I meant.
Excellent scenario! Very fun to watch. If this was reality, the Churchills would have been the best asset.
Agreed
Please do a sequel with the USA now!
I like to see what happens if 10 modified Ukrainian sea drones carry 4-6 quad copters with RPG warheads on their deck like an aircraft carrier and go close enough to the Russian ships not to be seen.
Then, release all drones and run away to base to get reloaded. GPS guided drones can fly a few feet of the water and are incredibly hard to spot until too late.
I feel bad for the start carts (APA-80). harriers, not so much.
They knew what they signed up for.
@@grimreapers start carts were conscripted. harriers, not so much.
Very cool and well thought out with the significant exception that there was no way to get MIG 25's there. Shipped to Argentina? Why include that? Their lack of aircraft carriers has always prevented them from projecting power without a land bridge from home.
Yes I didn't think about that...
Whenever I tune in, Cap always gets killed.
This is a re-occuring feature I know.
@@grimreapers The tone in your voice is different these days, Cap. Before you used to shout "Oh, FFS, sh*t, w*nk... I'm dead". Now your voice sounds of resignation that it was bound to happen.
Still love watching your videos. Not so much the planning - but the Falklands aerial war was always interesting for me so I watched it all.
A few points to make:
1: Having the YAK38 (crap) played by the AV8B (decent to good) is being a little bit generous.
2: Using a floating dry dock (dunno if modeled in DCS) would make for a good 'improvised' VTOL carrier (basically like ESB ships the US have now). The US Navy used a couple barge ships as a floating helicopter base during the tanker war in the 80's.
3: Would love to see a sequel to this with the addition of an American Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) as well as the Argies.
I don't see why, as the British actually used container ships as a makeshift carrier during the falkland. So this was pretty realistic in that aspect
You know I have to ask. If when playing DCS cap still announces everything even when he's not recording
Ha, you assume that there are times he plays when he's not recording?
While another pair of sidewinders could have been nice,
I'm not sure the beautiful boys would have made it of the Deck,
if one of them had packed a Snickers for the trip 😄
Kilo are too shortlegged for such oceanic adventures, some Akulas maybe or what ssbns they had that time.
Everything else aside the Yaks were so useless using Harriers as a substitute skewed this to the point of absurdity.
Ah yes, the grand Soviet master plan to (checks notes) send a huge naval fleet to invade some damp, desolate islands on the other side of the world.
named "Cuban Missile Crisis"
Lol
I would Imagine our cousins across the water would have taken a dim view of the Soviets taking the Falklands!
Glider på en räkmacka? Haha xD
soviets had plenty of aircraft carriers and a navy that would be going along with them...
sams and missles in general at this time were all horrible...
most of the rockets in the sim seem to be running out of fuel.
lol, the ai definately doesnt fly like a soviet pilot would either 🤭
When you say “we’ve modeled” something what do you mean? Are you programming things? Like writing code? How long does it take to build these missions and make these videos?
it takes a few hours to make and test a mission. Mission editor is an open sandbox. you can place assets and give them directions and way points. you can give them tasks like CAP or air to ground or different things like attack a specific target or search an area. also there are triggers than can be made and you can set a time when an asset spawns and appears. there are a lot of options and for the most part you have to tell every asset what todo individually. so sometimes things conflict or just don't go right for any number of reasons.
Cap spends the majority of his time reading and responding to comments and making the omissions for the videos. filming and editing is probably only 30% if I had to guess. but he can render and upload videos while doing some of the other things.
If this alternative reality would have come to pass, its not hard to convince america or any other nato country to join in, since thats what the primary mission of the Nato pact demands
"If any country of the Nato pact is invaded every country is obligated to help" And yes the falklands are (were) part of the UK. Ofcourse this would have changed the cold war into a hot war, and we might be very glad that this alternate reality never came to pass.
Brits didn't have cruise missiles in the 80s?
Sea Eagle, but as far as I'm aware we didn't carry any in the real task force so missed them off here also.
Hey you should replace the harriers with f4s
We didn't have the naval F-4s operational in 1982.
how the fudge did they get the Mig 25's there?
Yes I didn't think about that...
would like to see a us csg vs this
As soon as I saw the Wargame title I knew this was a "Make the BRICs faction happy" episode. Three issues with your scenario...besides the fact that you ignore the WW3 trigger that would have involved NATO...
1 : The MIG-25 lacked the ferry range to reach the Falklands, none of the Soviet aviation cruisers could have supported them and the Port Stanley runway was too small for Foxbat .
2: An maritime exclusion/war zones (MEZs) subjects all encroaching vessels to attack and your Trojan horse would have been an easy target. 3: Harriers deployed to the Falklands War didn't have the twin mounts.
That Kirov is modeled beautifully...fitting for a Russia sourced game, of course.
LoL...Simba's lucky streak continues...almost😉
If the soviets had invaded the Falklands it would not have triggered NATO. An attack is an attack, it doesn't matter where it came from, it matters where the attack took place. And the Falklands are not protected by NATO. That being said, US would have acted unilaterally
@@MichaelBarry-gz9xl 🤣🤣🤣 Did you even read the words you typed?!? 🤣🤣🤣
@@deadmeat8754 I just re-read it and it's fine, what am I missing? Article 6 of NATO states that Article 5 can only be invoked if the attack takes place north of the tropic of cancer. So it doesn't matter WHO invades if its south of the equator then NATO isn't obliged to do anything
@@MichaelBarry-gz9xl Okay, you obviously have issues. Why don't _you_ tell me what _you_ think would have most likely happened if the Soviet Union had invaded and occupied the Falklands in 1982.
@@deadmeat8754 NATO Article 5 would not have been triggered because the falklands is not in the North Atlantic, it's in the South Atlantic. So the NATO countries would have turned a blind eye. America on the other hand would have sided with UK and created a coalition that would have forced the Soviets out. Now why don't you tell me what your problem is and what you think would have happened?
Wouldn’t the Brits call at the least the US Navy to help with such a large advisory? That would be cool to see!!
Nah the UK hates us they can do it themselves
I think if the Soviets had pulled this trick, it would of triggered an Article 5 response from NATO.
@@markmaher4548 Oh 100%
nope
@@markmaher4548 At the very least, it would have triggered a US response, per the Monroe doctrine. Aside from the actual conflict being between two US allies, the aggressor (Argentina) wasn't from outside of the Western hemisphere (therefore not triggering the Monroe doctrine).
Well, the Soviets might have gotten away with getting a force onto the islands if they had kept OPSEC, because the US wouldn't have expected this... but the US would have joined the Brits in obliterating that force.
Shame DCS doesn't have other Soviet era ships, such as Sovremmeny Destroyers
The one thing to comfort yourselves with, if the USSR had been the ones invading the falklands, you'd have been backed up by American Fighters and Bombers. :P