When ever I am stressed at work I watch your videos . Your expression of content just lands straight in my spirit . Thank you for educating and enlightening at the same time.
What a lovely video! I really enjoyed your explanation of the distinction between drum circles and music therapy - a history with which I was unfamiliar. Another thing I liked was learning more about your background and depth of knowledge. An attribute that I really admire in any educator is great depth of knowledge coupled with humility, and you fit that description perfectly. There are a lot of drumming videos on the internet, and yours is my favorite for all the above reasons. Five Stars, well-earned.
I love that you exercise patience and tolerance with excited people like me! Thanks for tolerating me! I almost always practice self-control! Thanks for sharing your gift of music therapy!
Thinking more about your video, I'd like to suggest that perhaps some of the confusion surrounding drum circles vs music therapy has its genesis in the fact that, by its very nature, drumming can be therapeutic. In other words, a participant in a drum circle may well derive a therapeutic benefit from participation - even though the event isn't specifically structured as a guided therapeutic event. My personal awareness of this distinction came about through reading a fascinating book. "Surviving Survival" by Laurence Gonzales. One example he uses is knitting. I think you'd find the book interesting. All that said, I agree with you that there is a big difference between drum circles and professionally guided music therapy - and that the distinction is worth examining.
Wow... You shouldn't have had to explain yourself so much to the drum circle label haters, but thank you for taking the time with careful consideration to clarify. ❤️
Another really interesting and informative talk. I am a percussionist and qualified music teacher who works predominantly in special needs school. No matter how many times I tell staff I am not a music therapist, some of them still refer to it as music therapy sessions! 😕
It’s Ok. I work at a facility for people with Brain Injuries doing music therapy and no matter how many times I call it that, they always call it “music group.”
I found this a great and informative video as well. I am a music teacher in a special ed environment, and have used techniques from many of these areas, but I am *not* a music therapist. Which I did look into at one time, but job prospects are bleak here in the Northeast. Kalani, thank you for showing your books! I am very interested in methods, techniques, practical application, etc. I have the Arthur Hull book. It’s been years since I thumbed through it, but my impression is that it’s much more philosophical (“drums = good”) than it is practical.
Hello Kalani, thank you for interesting topic, I agree about differences in music therapy and drum circles, but the question is: mostly misinterpretation comes when people after drum circles are full of emotion and often say - It feel like in therapy.! So this word often comes after drum circles. Have you ever said something after that kind of words or similar? How we can friendly comment something or we shouldn't :)
Question: is it fair to say that a drum circle can be a therapeutic experience? I feel like there are lots of things in my life that I would call therapeutic, but that aren't necessarily therapy. Is that appropriate to say or not so much? Also, thank you for the clarifying information.
Music "therapy" is borderline fringe stuff. I believe in the idea, but I think it attracts amateurs and/or charlatans who have little to no real musical, let alone improvisational skills to think they are at the level to teach others. IMO, and experience it's very important to feel music and know how to play/work with a group of skilled or not-so-skilled musicians in order to bring out the best in everyone. Ideally, there's more to it than showing up with a pair of crystal bowls, some tuned gongs, and a couple of drums and making some half-assed attempt at teaching about sound healing. That's not much different than some guy banging on a tin can at a drum circle and having an epiphany even though his playing and attention to the moment was complete crap. It's all good to have a breakthrough and whatever, but there are varying levels to this "music as therapy" idea. I think it's all valid, but cringe at some of the so called teachers i have seen advertising their services a sound healer.
Silly question but would Drums and other instruments being used to trigger an ASMR response, be more of a kind of Music Therapy? And if for Music Therapy does it matter how the Drum is used if used in creative old or new ways to trigger an emotional spiritual and or ASMR response, or to experiment with Music and musical instruments a bit like John Cage did?
Not a silly questions at all. When thinking of what is (or is not) Music Therapy, keep in mind that it is a healthcare service that is performed by a Board-Certified Music Therapist. It's not so much about what instruments are used or what is done with them. Music Therapy is not a "thing," it's a service that is performed by a music therapist, just like Talk Therapy is performed by a psychotherapist or Physical Therapy is performed by a Physical Therapist. Does that help give you a better idea of what Music Therapy is? You can learn more about music therapy, by visiting the American Music Therapy Association website: musictherapy.org
As far as triggering different types of responses, I think just about any instrument or sound could be used in a variety of ways - so, Yes. However; how an instrument gets used will depend largely on who is using it and for whom, as well as the specific context, so there a lot of variables.
When ever I am stressed at work I watch your videos . Your expression of content just lands straight in my spirit . Thank you for educating and enlightening at the same time.
What a lovely video! I really enjoyed your explanation of the distinction between drum circles and music therapy - a history with which I was unfamiliar. Another thing I liked was learning more about your background and depth of knowledge. An attribute that I really admire in any educator is great depth of knowledge coupled with humility, and you fit that description perfectly. There are a lot of drumming videos on the internet, and yours is my favorite for all the above reasons. Five Stars, well-earned.
I love that you exercise patience and tolerance with excited people like me! Thanks for tolerating me! I almost always practice self-control! Thanks for sharing your gift of music therapy!
Thanks ..it’s very clear ..I love both too ..this has explained it perfectly ..you are my inspiration with your music 🪘🤗
Thank you!
Thinking more about your video, I'd like to suggest that perhaps some of the confusion surrounding drum circles vs music therapy has its genesis in the fact that, by its very nature, drumming can be therapeutic. In other words, a participant in a drum circle may well derive a therapeutic benefit from participation - even though the event isn't specifically structured as a guided therapeutic event. My personal awareness of this distinction came about through reading a fascinating book. "Surviving Survival" by Laurence Gonzales. One example he uses is knitting. I think you'd find the book interesting. All that said, I agree with you that there is a big difference between drum circles and professionally guided music therapy - and that the distinction is worth examining.
I came upon a group of 5 bongo players in a circle at the park. I asked them what are you? They said we’re a circle of 5ths
Wow... You shouldn't have had to explain yourself so much to the drum circle label haters, but thank you for taking the time with careful consideration to clarify. ❤️
Another really interesting and informative talk.
I am a percussionist and qualified music teacher who works predominantly in special needs school. No matter how many times I tell staff I am not a music therapist, some of them still refer to it as music therapy sessions! 😕
It’s Ok. I work at a facility for people with Brain Injuries doing music therapy and no matter how many times I call it that, they always call it “music group.”
I found this a great and informative video as well. I am a music teacher in a special ed environment, and have used techniques from many of these areas, but I am *not* a music therapist. Which I did look into at one time, but job prospects are bleak here in the Northeast. Kalani, thank you for showing your books! I am very interested in methods, techniques, practical application, etc. I have the Arthur Hull book. It’s been years since I thumbed through it, but my impression is that it’s much more philosophical (“drums = good”) than it is practical.
I genuinely appreciate your videos. Do you happen to sell these books in a digital format? If not, that’s perfectly fine. Thank you!
Hello Kalani, thank you for interesting topic, I agree about differences in music therapy and drum circles, but the question is: mostly misinterpretation comes when people after drum circles are full of emotion and often say - It feel like in therapy.! So this word often comes after drum circles. Have you ever said something after that kind of words or similar? How we can friendly comment something or we shouldn't :)
Question: is it fair to say that a drum circle can be a therapeutic experience? I feel like there are lots of things in my life that I would call therapeutic, but that aren't necessarily therapy. Is that appropriate to say or not so much?
Also, thank you for the clarifying information.
Music "therapy" is borderline fringe stuff. I believe in the idea, but I think it attracts amateurs and/or charlatans who have little to no real musical, let alone improvisational skills to think they are at the level to teach others. IMO, and experience it's very important to feel music and know how to play/work with a group of skilled or not-so-skilled musicians in order to bring out the best in everyone. Ideally, there's more to it than showing up with a pair of crystal bowls, some tuned gongs, and a couple of drums and making some half-assed attempt at teaching about sound healing. That's not much different than some guy banging on a tin can at a drum circle and having an epiphany even though his playing and attention to the moment was complete crap. It's all good to have a breakthrough and whatever, but there are varying levels to this "music as therapy" idea. I think it's all valid, but cringe at some of the so called teachers i have seen advertising their services a sound healer.
Silly question but would Drums and other instruments being used to trigger an ASMR response, be more of a kind of Music Therapy? And if for Music Therapy does it matter how the Drum is used if used in creative old or new ways to trigger an emotional spiritual and or ASMR response, or to experiment with Music and musical instruments a bit like John Cage did?
Not a silly questions at all. When thinking of what is (or is not) Music Therapy, keep in mind that it is a healthcare service that is performed by a Board-Certified Music Therapist. It's not so much about what instruments are used or what is done with them. Music Therapy is not a "thing," it's a service that is performed by a music therapist, just like Talk Therapy is performed by a psychotherapist or Physical Therapy is performed by a Physical Therapist. Does that help give you a better idea of what Music Therapy is? You can learn more about music therapy, by visiting the American Music Therapy Association website: musictherapy.org
@@WORLDDRUMCLUB Yes thank you I now have a better understanding of what Music Therapy is.
As far as triggering different types of responses, I think just about any instrument or sound could be used in a variety of ways - so, Yes. However; how an instrument gets used will depend largely on who is using it and for whom, as well as the specific context, so there a lot of variables.
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