Being a drummer who also mixes for bands, it was a revelation to me to understand that the drummer (when playing acoustic kit) set the volume for the hole band. Playing an e-kit allows enough headroom for vocals and such.
I switched to e-drums a few years back and never looked back. Having significantly lower and more controlled stage volume for both rehearsals and gigs is amazing.
After 30 years playing acoustic in bands, I switched 15 years ago to edrums and haven’t looked back, especially for setting the overall band volume. Definitely agree with better quality practice since at reasonable volumes you can hear each instrument much better.
It's really the way to go, especially for practice. A band I was playing in recently used acoustic drums for the larger venues, but always practiced with an e-kit. It really does make practice more productive when you can actually hear everyone and the singers don't have to strain to get in the mix.
@@TravisBahmer definitely agree on helping the singing. I also play guitar and sing and we switch around, but singing and drumming seems much easier with electric as I don’t have the high hat in on hear. I actually lost some hearing in my left ear from years of acoustics and the high hat on my left.
My band only uses an ekit. So much better than trying to fight with an acoustic drummer. So simple to setup and nobody in the crowd cares. Us as musicians love it because we don't have to worry about such loud drums to compete with
You're absolutely right about this. However, there is a lot of energy from a live kit that excites the audience and the band's performance. The air being pushed around by an acoustic drums can't be achieved from an e-kit. That said, for outdoor gigs, a live kit is king. For small indoor venues, e-kits rule.
Totally agree. If you have the space to utilize acoustic drums they are great, but a lot of bands that are out gigging are playing smaller venues which is where the e-kit advantage comes into play.
Wrong, you can use monitors (as I did) to have much more of that air pushed on stage, PLUS what comes out of PA, There is just no comparison to when I played acoustic kits and I have been doing both for over 35 years.
I gig with both acoustic and electric kits depending on the venue and how big the stage is (are we on top of each other or can we maintain some distance}. I do loads of theatre work too and if the drums have to be in the pit with all the other musicians (as opposed to mic'd up in a separate room) E - kits have a big advantage in terms of not blasting out the other musicians (who are often more classically trained) also the band/ orchestra volume can be kept down so as not to overwhelm the cast singing on stage!
There's another consideration... Depending on the electronic kit, you can have any sound you want to trigger musically. Which is a HUGE consideration. You can even take a perfectly produced and polished "carbon copy" of your own accoustic kit to keep the real drum feel if you wish . .
My old wedding cover band had everything going into the PA; E-drums, a lined SVT 7PRO bass head, the vocals, two guitar amps, miced up with iso-cabs, keyboard and miced up brass.. It feels a bit cold and non-livish on stage but it sounded so much better out to the audience and you had so much more control over the mix.
I've been playing live for about 6 years and have been trying to get a feel for the best sound. Our drummer suggested using an electric kit and I think we need to try it after seeing this
The time Roland/Alesis put in to creating a kit drum sound samples for their brains...the Best drum set, mic, room acoustics and size etc. The odds of you reproducing those on the fly are slim. Travis makes a lot of sense. I'm finding more drummers opening their minds to the e-drums, others will never change.
Thanks, Frank! Great points in your comment. Even if someone could recreate those sounds thru "the old way" it would take a lot more effort than plugging in and moving a couple faders. Most bands playing small venues don't get paid enough to justify that kind of effort, so I'm all about keeping it as simple as possible when it comes to set up and tear down. Especially when the sound quality for the fans is significantly better.
I've played both in everything from top 40 dance bands to classic hard rock and in every case there's a notable difference in the energy level of the room. No matter how good your PA is it will still sound like you're listening to a recording. They are amazing for rehearsals. If you don't have the "finesse" to play softer (I always hated that word. It's a favorite of guitarists who never have to worry about anything like that) there are ways around it. Use moon gels on your crashes and ride to stop the wash. Extra rings or a dampener pad for the toms and carry an extra blanket with you to roll up into the kick to absorb some air being moved. I also keep 7A sticks in the bag to use for volume.
I'm a gigging acoustic drummer in classic rock band but I have always been interested in gigging with an E-drum kit. I practice on a TD-15 KV in my studio, but never played it live due to the cheezy aesthetics of the it on stage. Well, I just purchased a Roland VAD 507 (with the digital hats) to solve the aesthetics problem and I am looking forward to playing out with it next weekend. We have a quality PA system with subs so I know the kit will sound good to the audience. I will be running the kick and snare out of the TD-27 direct outs and rest of the kit using the TD-27 stereo outs. My big concern is with my other band members and getting the kit sounding good on stage. Everyone in the band can wear IEM's if they have to, but some don't like to. I will be wearing IEM's of course, but I don't want to force everyone in the band to wear the IEMS, so I am hoping that piping my drums through a couple of quality QSC vocal wedges up front of the stage will be enough. The other thing I was thinking is possibly pulling the FOH speakers to the back of the stage and putting them high on the poles, but I am still concerned about feedback from the vocal mics. Let me know if any of you have any advice on the stage monitoring with E-drums.
The monitor mix can be tailored to each player's preference no matter what type of monitor they are using. That's another advantage to using an electric kit. You can give everyone as much or as little of the drums as they want in their personal mix. I never used IEMs in the band I was in when I made this video and our 12" monitor wedges handled the drums just fine. I would not recommend moving the FOH speakers to the rear of the stage. You are definitely going to run into feedback issues if you go that route.
I am a drummer/ engineer and totally agree with some caveats: a smaller sub-woofer from a e-drum sub-mix provides nice punch for on-stage -- be sure to have a backup (either module or a basic 5-pc acoustic kit)
I would think you would have more control of the mix with an eKit. And as far as appearance if you have a large bass drum or a hybrid kit it will look good on stage. I started acoustic but picked up electric two years ago and they are a blast! And I can practice way more due to less noise. Sometimes at 1 a.m.!
I have ordered the Roland VAD503 to address the "cosmetic" issue when performing on stage. I have a Gretsch acoustic kit of exactly the same config except the cymbals are shine, the rack tom is 12 inch and the colour is "wood" as opposed to black. The average punter will not know the difference, especially after a few beers!
Instead of paying an outrageous amount for a hybrid kit, do what I did. Take a kit that you never play or buy a cheap kit. For the kick drum all you have to do is take the batter head and place your e kick so it lines up with where the batter head would be. If it is uneven cut out a section of the kick drum. You can drill a hole for the cable to go through or just run a cable along the bottom. Now remove all the Tom heads. Drill a hole in the side of the toms so you can run your e toms through and screw them to your e kit. You can replace the bottom heads if you want. I didn’t make a snare because my e snare is on a snare stand and it’s hidden by the toms. This will save you tons of money if you are willing to put in a little work.
Our band is trying to decide whether or not we want acoustic or electric drums for our gigs. We currently have both in the rehearsal space but I'm leaning more towards the electronic drum kit and after watching this video I'm completely sold on electric!
I like you’re perspective on this as a non drummer. I’m a drummer who has transitioned to edrums and started using them live. I’ll be the first to admit there are both big pay offs and rewards to playing edrums and challenges to implitbem as well... hope you’re having a great week...
Hi Travis, I am about to just doing that. Guys in our band are still "more into the acoustics". But you made a point here, especially as being one of the "other instrument guys" ;-) Thus really was encouraging for me to keep pursuing on this. I am still somewhat overwhelmed though by those electronic related topics to accomplish. But I am anxious eventually bringing that "wanted" and great sound across. Thanks, Rico/Germany
Our band played at a gig once and the sound guy came up to me, scratching his head and said to me, What do I do with this? I told him - one guitar cable (or two for stereo) he was absolutely stoked after our sound check and said he'd never expected what he heard. Even open air, you won't get the sound quality from a mic'd up acoustic kit as with an ekit. Edrums have a much more direct sound to them, whereas a mic'd acoustic kit is more vague. It has to be - that's the law of physics. Studio quality in stereo. There's just so many positives with edrums it's a no brainer. Our local music store told me that 75% of drum sales are now edrums. Acoustics have started to fade away in the amateur world and it's only a matter of time before edrums are everywhere.
A DRUMMER, like any other musician, should know about, and be able to play dynamics. You should be playing for the music, not your own ego (look how loud I can play, look at all the cool, fancy stuff I can sandwhich into this song). Music is a language. It tells stories. Playing loud all the time is the same as always yelling when communicating with others. Same as using all capitals when texting. Someone who only plays loud, merely proves that they haven’t taken the time to perfect their craft. Playing at a low or moderate level gives you room to do a crescendo, which can lift a song to greater heights of emotions, just like a decrescendo, can draw the audience in to what can be a key or poignant point of the song. Throughout history, most of the greatest songs in every genre uses dynamics to create these emotions. You wouldn’t play a ballad at fortitisimo (fff), just as you wouldn’t play an entire triumphant march at pianisissimo (ppp). The audience would most likely leave. I’ve seen it happen. I was with a really good band (quintet) that gigged a lot. Had great dynamics. At a private party, during one of their breaks, they introduced another band (trying to give some friends some exposure), and that band (trio) actually drove the Hell’s Angels out of their own clubhouse.
I am a gigging drummer with 60+ years of experience. I play with both acoustic and electronic kits. The biggest advantage I have found is the plethora of choice of kits on the edrums. I’ve never received a complaint of being too loud, even in extremely small venues (play softer, sometimes use rattans instead of sticks). For really large gigs, such as stadiums, large theaters, all drums and cymbals are miked, and usually have stereo miking overhead to recreate “room” feel.
I like E-D but hybrid, the beauty of an acoustic kit whit the perfect sound of an E-D, in some places the acoustic is terrible and theres´nt a good sound system, if guitar players loves electric guitars of course drummers can love hybrid drumkits too, I like both, but I stay in E-D.
pretty much dead on except most guitarists do not know how the f..k to turn down and do not understand dynamics .play with their sound up regardless ..This also depends on the music as well THE WHO drummer zak started using rolands with the who because petes hearing condition .This i found to be a joke it makes the music suffer and takes away everything that band was about .I do gig with them though because we play everything so it does work for me .good video though
Right on. There are advantages and drawbacks to either setup in different situations. I'm all about minimal stage volume, so I converted to a Fly Rig direct to the board last summer. Sounds great, the only stage volume is thru the monitors, and setup/tear down is a breeze! I don't know why so many players make it so hard on themselves.
playing in that context where everyone plays through a monitor and their amps going direct via line out is the way to rock the prob i found is with sound wars .Someone always has to turn up an ungoldy level because your idea of mixed proper is not the same as theirs.;This is the nonsense that destroys bands .So What i do know is keep the mixer right by my kit whoever gets loud (because they always have that magic headroom )even though you tell them to turn the guitar all the way up during sound check ,well i simply turn em down ..I even record our practices from the board and make discs for the guys to see wth is going on with the sound hahahaha ,
Nice man. You ever have issues with loud vibrations ie from bass player causing e drums to trigger??? All great at home but then at practice. Total weirdness with other instruments. Peace!
We never had issues with other instruments causing drums to trigger on stage. The overall low stage volume was likely a factor as well as our drummer using in-ear monitors.
Cymbals are the only thing I hate about gigging live with edrums. The dynamic range of ecymbals is shite compared to real cymbals. And any drummer worth their salt should play well at pp
It’s not all about volumes, there’s a certain energy that is lost when a drummer has to play quietly and the sound feel and energy are forced to change no amount of finesse can change that , secondly you can go out and by the most expensive ekit there is and your just not gonna get a realistic playing high hat also if your really getting into a song hitting harder on ekits won’t bring things up but ekits are great for cover band and cheese rock bands but if your recording or an original band no self respecting drummer would ever prefer an ekit it’s just not the real thing , that’s like me telling you I want you to play the songs on an iPad with garage band instead of your fender because I can control your volume better see what I’m saying?
On every e-kit I've played, hitting harder produced louder sounds through the speakers/phones and hitting softer produced quieter sounds. The range of volumes compared very favorably with the range one gets from an acoustic kit, except one can begin the range far quieter (or far louder) than on any acoustic kit. You may have played some very old, cheap e-kit where that was not the case. I would say the comparison between acoustic drums and e-kits is more like the choice between an acoustic guitar and an electric guitar. One is infinitely more variable than the other, but they both have their place.
The Roland VH-14 Digital hihat is quite impressive, even when compared with the older VH-12 that I used. Very sensitive, real size, looks and feels very realistic to an acoustic. It takes a bit getting used to it, to produce the right sound, but that's kind of a given even in acoustics or when changing the hihat stand.
You can hit harder and it will get louder, but, like acoustics, there's a limit to what any drums put out. You can hit as hard as you like and it won't get any louder.
Great, love it! Been playing with acoustic kits for over 10 years, setup an e-drum with sd3 2 months ago. I currently play a funk kit, a jazz kit, a latin kit, and a reggae kit (all tweaked to my liking). Simply insane, how good the software has become. Just love it. I can see, how people would be surprised when hearing it live.
Being a drummer who also mixes for bands, it was a revelation to me to understand that the drummer (when playing acoustic kit) set the volume for the hole band. Playing an e-kit allows enough headroom for vocals and such.
I switched to e-drums a few years back and never looked back. Having significantly lower and more controlled stage volume for both rehearsals and gigs is amazing.
I totally agree. The lower stage volume is amazing for everyone.
After 30 years playing acoustic in bands, I switched 15 years ago to edrums and haven’t looked back, especially for setting the overall band volume. Definitely agree with better quality practice since at reasonable volumes you can hear each instrument much better.
It's really the way to go, especially for practice. A band I was playing in recently used acoustic drums for the larger venues, but always practiced with an e-kit. It really does make practice more productive when you can actually hear everyone and the singers don't have to strain to get in the mix.
@@TravisBahmer definitely agree on helping the singing. I also play guitar and sing and we switch around, but singing and drumming seems much easier with electric as I don’t have the high hat in on hear. I actually lost some hearing in my left ear from years of acoustics and the high hat on my left.
I play with a A2E conversion kit. I'm an old acoustic drummer and now totally forget that I'm playing electronics. Will never go back.
My band only uses an ekit. So much better than trying to fight with an acoustic drummer. So simple to setup and nobody in the crowd cares. Us as musicians love it because we don't have to worry about such loud drums to compete with
You're absolutely right about this. However, there is a lot of energy from a live kit that excites the audience and the band's performance. The air being pushed around by an acoustic drums can't be achieved from an e-kit.
That said, for outdoor gigs, a live kit is king. For small indoor venues, e-kits rule.
Totally agree. If you have the space to utilize acoustic drums they are great, but a lot of bands that are out gigging are playing smaller venues which is where the e-kit advantage comes into play.
Wrong, you can use monitors (as I did) to have much more of that air pushed on stage, PLUS what comes out of PA, There is just no comparison to when I played acoustic kits and I have been doing both for over 35 years.
Agreed, we also practice with headphones and/or inears. thanks to my ekit we dont bother anybody
I gig with both acoustic and electric kits depending on the venue and how big the stage is (are we on top of each other or can we maintain some distance}. I do loads of theatre work too and if the drums have to be in the pit with all the other musicians (as opposed to mic'd up in a separate room) E - kits have a big advantage in terms of not blasting out the other musicians (who are often more classically trained) also the band/ orchestra volume can be kept down so as not to overwhelm the cast singing on stage!
Right on! It's all about finding the right balance for the venue.
Butch Vig uses his td50 live. One of the reasons he said was Shirley complaining about loud acoustic cymbals affecting her singing live.
There's another consideration... Depending on the electronic kit, you can have any sound you want to trigger musically.
Which is a HUGE consideration.
You can even take a perfectly produced and polished "carbon copy" of your own accoustic kit to keep the real drum feel if you wish . .
Great point!
My old wedding cover band had everything going into the PA; E-drums, a lined SVT 7PRO bass head, the vocals, two guitar amps, miced up with iso-cabs, keyboard and miced up brass.. It feels a bit cold and non-livish on stage but it sounded so much better out to the audience and you had so much more control over the mix.
I've been playing live for about 6 years and have been trying to get a feel for the best sound. Our drummer suggested using an electric kit and I think we need to try it after seeing this
The time Roland/Alesis put in to creating a kit drum sound samples for their brains...the Best drum set, mic, room acoustics and size etc. The odds of you reproducing those on the fly are slim. Travis makes a lot of sense.
I'm finding more drummers opening their minds to the e-drums, others will never change.
Thanks, Frank! Great points in your comment. Even if someone could recreate those sounds thru "the old way" it would take a lot more effort than plugging in and moving a couple faders. Most bands playing small venues don't get paid enough to justify that kind of effort, so I'm all about keeping it as simple as possible when it comes to set up and tear down. Especially when the sound quality for the fans is significantly better.
I converted from 35 yrs of acoustic to electric and will NEVER go back!!! EDRUMS all the way
There are a lot of advantages for gigging drummers/bands. Glad to hear I'm not the only one that feels that way. Thanks for the comment!
The problem with edrums is adding on to them and the symbols but acoustic have some disadvantages too I prefer edrums
I feel it is the future....
I've played both in everything from top 40 dance bands to classic hard rock and in every case there's a notable difference in the energy level of the room. No matter how good your PA is it will still sound like you're listening to a recording. They are amazing for rehearsals. If you don't have the "finesse" to play softer (I always hated that word. It's a favorite of guitarists who never have to worry about anything like that) there are ways around it. Use moon gels on your crashes and ride to stop the wash. Extra rings or a dampener pad for the toms and carry an extra blanket with you to roll up into the kick to absorb some air being moved. I also keep 7A sticks in the bag to use for volume.
I'm a gigging acoustic drummer in classic rock band but I have always been interested in gigging with an E-drum kit. I practice on a TD-15 KV in my studio, but never played it live due to the cheezy aesthetics of the it on stage. Well, I just purchased a Roland VAD 507 (with the digital hats) to solve the aesthetics problem and I am looking forward to playing out with it next weekend. We have a quality PA system with subs so I know the kit will sound good to the audience. I will be running the kick and snare out of the TD-27 direct outs and rest of the kit using the TD-27 stereo outs. My big concern is with my other band members and getting the kit sounding good on stage. Everyone in the band can wear IEM's if they have to, but some don't like to. I will be wearing IEM's of course, but I don't want to force everyone in the band to wear the IEMS, so I am hoping that piping my drums through a couple of quality QSC vocal wedges up front of the stage will be enough. The other thing I was thinking is possibly pulling the FOH speakers to the back of the stage and putting them high on the poles, but I am still concerned about feedback from the vocal mics. Let me know if any of you have any advice on the stage monitoring with E-drums.
The monitor mix can be tailored to each player's preference no matter what type of monitor they are using. That's another advantage to using an electric kit. You can give everyone as much or as little of the drums as they want in their personal mix. I never used IEMs in the band I was in when I made this video and our 12" monitor wedges handled the drums just fine. I would not recommend moving the FOH speakers to the rear of the stage. You are definitely going to run into feedback issues if you go that route.
I am a drummer/ engineer and totally agree with some caveats: a smaller sub-woofer from a e-drum sub-mix provides nice punch for on-stage -- be sure to have a backup (either module or a basic 5-pc acoustic kit)
I would think you would have more control of the mix with an eKit. And as far as appearance if you have a large bass drum or a hybrid kit it will look good on stage. I started acoustic but picked up electric two years ago and they are a blast! And I can practice way more due to less noise. Sometimes at 1 a.m.!
I have ordered the Roland VAD503 to address the "cosmetic" issue when performing on stage. I have a Gretsch acoustic kit of exactly the same config except the cymbals are shine, the rack tom is 12 inch and the colour is "wood" as opposed to black. The average punter will not know the difference, especially after a few beers!
Instead of paying an outrageous amount for a hybrid kit, do what I did. Take a kit that you never play or buy a cheap kit. For the kick drum all you have to do is take the batter head and place your e kick so it lines up with where the batter head would be. If it is uneven cut out a section of the kick drum. You can drill a hole for the cable to go through or just run a cable along the bottom. Now remove all the Tom heads. Drill a hole in the side of the toms so you can run your e toms through and screw them to your e kit. You can replace the bottom heads if you want. I didn’t make a snare because my e snare is on a snare stand and it’s hidden by the toms. This will save you tons of money if you are willing to put in a little work.
Absolutely right! Thanks
Our band is trying to decide whether or not we want acoustic or electric drums for our gigs. We currently have both in the rehearsal space but I'm leaning more towards the electronic drum kit and after watching this video I'm completely sold on electric!
Awesome! You won't regret it. Best of luck with the gigs!
@@TravisBahmer 🤘
Keep on rockin buddy!
I like you’re perspective on this as a non drummer. I’m a drummer who has transitioned to edrums and started using them live. I’ll be the first to admit there are both big pay offs and rewards to playing edrums and challenges to implitbem as well... hope you’re having a great week...
Thanks, Steve!
the hardest part of playing an electric kit is sound engineers who live in the 80,s and don't like the drummer having control of his sound
Hi Travis, I am about to just doing that. Guys in our band are still "more into the acoustics". But you made a point here, especially as being one of the "other instrument guys" ;-) Thus really was encouraging for me to keep pursuing on this. I am still somewhat overwhelmed though by those electronic related topics to accomplish. But I am anxious eventually bringing that "wanted" and great sound across. Thanks, Rico/Germany
Our band played at a gig once and the sound guy came up to me, scratching his head and said to me, What do I do with this? I told him - one guitar cable (or two for stereo) he was absolutely stoked after our sound check and said he'd never expected what he heard.
Even open air, you won't get the sound quality from a mic'd up acoustic kit as with an ekit. Edrums have a much more direct sound to them, whereas a mic'd acoustic kit is more vague. It has to be - that's the law of physics. Studio quality in stereo.
There's just so many positives with edrums it's a no brainer. Our local music store told me that 75% of drum sales are now edrums. Acoustics have started to fade away in the amateur world and it's only a matter of time before edrums are everywhere.
Also, I can fit them in the back seat of my car.
Yet another advantage for an e-kit!
I’ve got a traps kit for that real without plugging anything in
Cool shirt
Thanks! Gotta love Motorhead!
A DRUMMER, like any other musician, should know about, and be able to play dynamics. You should be playing for the music, not your own ego (look how loud I can play, look at all the cool, fancy stuff I can sandwhich into this song). Music is a language. It tells stories. Playing loud all the time is the same as always yelling when communicating with others. Same as using all capitals when texting. Someone who only plays loud, merely proves that they haven’t taken the time to perfect their craft. Playing at a low or moderate level gives you room to do a crescendo, which can lift a song to greater heights of emotions, just like a decrescendo, can draw the audience in to what can be a key or poignant point of the song. Throughout history, most of the greatest songs in every genre uses dynamics to create these emotions. You wouldn’t play a ballad at fortitisimo (fff), just as you wouldn’t play an entire triumphant march at pianisissimo (ppp). The audience would most likely leave. I’ve seen it happen. I was with a really good band (quintet) that gigged a lot. Had great dynamics. At a private party, during one of their breaks, they introduced another band (trying to give some friends some exposure), and that band (trio) actually drove the Hell’s Angels out of their own clubhouse.
I am a gigging drummer with 60+ years of experience. I play with both acoustic and electronic kits. The biggest advantage I have found is the plethora of choice of kits on the edrums. I’ve never received a complaint of being too loud, even in extremely small venues (play softer, sometimes use rattans instead of sticks). For really large gigs, such as stadiums, large theaters, all drums and cymbals are miked, and usually have stereo miking overhead to recreate “room” feel.
I like E-D but hybrid, the beauty of an acoustic kit whit the perfect sound of an E-D, in some places the acoustic is terrible and theres´nt a good sound system, if guitar players loves electric guitars of course drummers can love hybrid drumkits too, I like both, but I stay in E-D.
pretty much dead on except most guitarists do not know how the f..k to turn down and do not understand dynamics .play with their sound up regardless ..This also depends on the music as well THE WHO drummer zak started using rolands with the who because petes hearing condition .This i found to be a joke it makes the music suffer and takes away everything that band was about .I do gig with them though because we play everything so it does work for me .good video though
Right on. There are advantages and drawbacks to either setup in different situations. I'm all about minimal stage volume, so I converted to a Fly Rig direct to the board last summer. Sounds great, the only stage volume is thru the monitors, and setup/tear down is a breeze! I don't know why so many players make it so hard on themselves.
playing in that context where everyone plays through a monitor and their amps going direct via line out is the way to rock the prob i found is with sound wars .Someone always has to turn up an ungoldy level because your idea of mixed proper is not the same as theirs.;This is the nonsense that destroys bands .So What i do know is keep the mixer right by my kit whoever gets loud (because they always have that magic headroom )even though you tell them to turn the guitar all the way up during sound check ,well i simply turn em down ..I even record our practices from the board and make discs for the guys to see wth is going on with the sound hahahaha ,
Nice man. You ever have issues with loud vibrations ie from bass player causing e drums to trigger??? All great at home but then at practice. Total weirdness with other instruments. Peace!
We never had issues with other instruments causing drums to trigger on stage. The overall low stage volume was likely a factor as well as our drummer using in-ear monitors.
who brings the FOH low end amplifiction?
What kit being used pls?
The band I was in at the time of this video used an Alesis kit, but there are plenty of great options.
Cymbals are the only thing I hate about gigging live with edrums. The dynamic range of ecymbals is shite compared to real cymbals. And any drummer worth their salt should play well at pp
No no no.. 😁
This issue will forever divide the drumming world...
It’s not all about volumes, there’s a certain energy that is lost when a drummer has to play quietly and the sound feel and energy are forced to change no amount of finesse can change that , secondly you can go out and by the most expensive ekit there is and your just not gonna get a realistic playing high hat also if your really getting into a song hitting harder on ekits won’t bring things up but ekits are great for cover band and cheese rock bands but if your recording or an original band no self respecting drummer would ever prefer an ekit it’s just not the real thing , that’s like me telling you I want you to play the songs on an iPad with garage band instead of your fender because I can control your volume better see what I’m saying?
I disagree with everything you say
I agree with you 100%
On every e-kit I've played, hitting harder produced louder sounds through the speakers/phones and hitting softer produced quieter sounds. The range of volumes compared very favorably with the range one gets from an acoustic kit, except one can begin the range far quieter (or far louder) than on any acoustic kit. You may have played some very old, cheap e-kit where that was not the case. I would say the comparison between acoustic drums and e-kits is more like the choice between an acoustic guitar and an electric guitar. One is infinitely more variable than the other, but they both have their place.
The Roland VH-14 Digital hihat is quite impressive, even when compared with the older VH-12 that I used. Very sensitive, real size, looks and feels very realistic to an acoustic.
It takes a bit getting used to it, to produce the right sound, but that's kind of a given even in acoustics or when changing the hihat stand.
You can hit harder and it will get louder, but, like acoustics, there's a limit to what any drums put out. You can hit as hard as you like and it won't get any louder.
Great, love it! Been playing with acoustic kits for over 10 years, setup an e-drum with sd3 2 months ago. I currently play a funk kit, a jazz kit, a latin kit, and a reggae kit (all tweaked to my liking). Simply insane, how good the software has become. Just love it. I can see, how people would be surprised when hearing it live.