Yup I’ll do a side view of the serve next. Not sure about the drop serve.. I’ve actually been experimenting with 3 different grips ( continental, eastern, and semi western).
According to USA pickleball; “ The ball can be dropped from any height but cannot be thrown, tossed, or otherwise released with any added force to bounce it.” To me, It appears that you consistently toss the ball on these serves.
@@jeffeyjeffey8 Where are you getting this from? You can't toss the ball on a volley serve? Read the rules for the volley serve. The only restrictions are that the release must be visible and cannot impart spin. usapickleball.org/docs/USA-Pickleball-Official-Rulebook-2024-v1.pdf
@@jeffeyjeffey8 There is no rule against tossing the Volley serve, it only applies to the drop serve. "The server has the option of dropping the ball and hitting it after the bounce. The ball can be dropped from any height but cannot be thrown, tossed, or otherwise released with any added force to bounce it."
Its legal to throw the ball up on a regular serve where the ball does not touch the ground. It is illegal on a drop serve where the ball touches the ground.
No it's not. There are two possible serves: The volley serve, and the drop serves. The rule you are referring to only applies to the drop serve, not the volley serve.
No it's not. There are two possible serves: The volley serve, and the drop serves. The rule you are referring to only applies to the drop serve, not the volley serve.
@@gg80108 There are 2 serves - the drop serve and the volley serve. The rule that requires dropping it without tossing it up or propelling it down only applies to the drop serve, not the volley serve.
From the 2024 USA Pickleball Rules: 4.A.8. "The Drop Serve. The drop serve is made by striking the ball after it bounces on the playing surface and can be made with either a forehand or backhand motion. There is no restriction how many times the ball can bounce nor where the ball can bounce on the playing surface. A proper drop serve includes the following elements: 4.A.8.a. The server must release the ball from one hand only or drop it off the paddle face from any natural (un-aided) height. 4.A.8.b. When releasing the ball, the ball shall not be propelled in any direction or in any manner prior to striking the ball to make the serve." All of that applies to the drop serve. The volley serve has its own set of rules: see 4. A. 7.
No it's not. There are two possible serves: The volley serve, and the drop serves. The rule you are referring to only applies to the drop serve, not the volley serve.
Very interesting, but it would be useful if you broke it down and explained how you actually hit the ball. Maybe you can do slow motion side view?
I’ll have to try slow mo next time. Thanks for feedback!
@@sonnynos or at least a sideview camera view!
A serve that consistently goes in and also one that consistently goes over the net would be a better serve. Just saying. ;)
Could you show side and close up front views of this serve to better illustrate how to do it? Also, can it be done on a drop serve?
Yup I’ll do a side view of the serve next. Not sure about the drop serve.. I’ve actually been experimenting with 3 different grips ( continental, eastern, and semi western).
@@sonnynos Please so the Cambodian grip!
According to USA pickleball; “ The ball can be dropped from any height but cannot be thrown, tossed, or otherwise released with any added force to bounce it.”
To me, It appears that you consistently toss the ball on these serves.
This applies to the drop serve. He is hitting a volley serve.
@@allanhee regardless, you aren't allowed to toss the ball at all
@@jeffeyjeffey8 Where are you getting this from? You can't toss the ball on a volley serve? Read the rules for the volley serve. The only restrictions are that the release must be visible and cannot impart spin.
usapickleball.org/docs/USA-Pickleball-Official-Rulebook-2024-v1.pdf
@@jeffeyjeffey8 There is no rule against tossing the Volley serve, it only applies to the drop serve.
"The server has the option of dropping the ball and hitting it after the bounce. The ball can be dropped from any height but cannot be thrown, tossed, or otherwise released with any added force to bounce it."
The whipped serves seem to carry a bigger kick. If it is mixed in with regular firm grip serves, it could throw the returner’s timing off.
Well, nice backswing but what about the front view so we can see the paddle action. Would you try again?
I’ll have to try different angles next time. I’ll try a side view or front view next time.
Great tip bro!. That works!
This is essentially a tennis forehand.
That last one was nasty!
Does the court surface have an effect on the height and speed of the bounce??
I don't think it is legal to throw the ball up in the air.
Its legal to throw the ball up on a regular serve where the ball does not touch the ground. It is illegal on a drop serve where the ball touches the ground.
You're confusing it with he Drop Serve.
Same here... can't throw the ball up. Simple fact
No it's not. There are two possible serves: The volley serve, and the drop serves. The rule you are referring to only applies to the drop serve, not the volley serve.
Best video ever .
the 2nd type of serve is better
It looks like you had another appointment that was more important. You joking tossing the ball up is an illegal move.
No it's not. There are two possible serves: The volley serve, and the drop serves. The rule you are referring to only applies to the drop serve, not the volley serve.
@@jonathansmith9946 wrong you got to drop the ball not throw it up.
@@gg80108 There are 2 serves - the drop serve and the volley serve. The rule that requires dropping it without tossing it up or propelling it down only applies to the drop serve, not the volley serve.
From the 2024 USA Pickleball Rules: 4.A.8. "The Drop Serve. The drop serve is made by striking
the ball after it bounces on the playing surface and
can be made with either a forehand or backhand motion. There is no restriction how many times the
ball can bounce nor where the ball can bounce on
the playing surface. A proper drop serve includes the
following elements:
4.A.8.a. The server must release the ball from one
hand only or drop it off the paddle face
from any natural (un-aided) height.
4.A.8.b. When releasing the ball, the ball shall not be
propelled in any direction or in any manner
prior to striking the ball to make the serve." All of that applies to the drop serve. The volley serve has its own set of rules: see 4. A. 7.
@@jonathansmith9946 4.A.8.B sez you cannot propell the ball up any serve. The pros were tired of that crap and tightened their rules further.
What grip are you using for both ? Semi western or continental?
I’m using an eastern grip here. I used to only use continental, but i got more topspin with the eastern grip.
Can't hear.
Your serve is illegal because the contact of the ball is above your waist
it's illegal
No it's not. There are two possible serves: The volley serve, and the drop serves. The rule you are referring to only applies to the drop serve, not the volley serve.
Not a new serve. Seen another channel talk about this. Creates extra pace and spin