Absolute Tragedy Missing more than half his career on film...and the greatest fights were at Welterweight It's like not hearing half of Mozart's compositions but knowing they existed
Sugar Ray retired after going on a run of 128-1 (84 KOs) & capturing the welterweight & middleweight titles. He came back 3 years later, recaptured his title, and fought for 12 more years, finally ending his career with 174 wins & 19 losses (109 KOs). His competition was the best in boxing history - 18 world champs & 10 Hall of Famers. His career spanned 25 years during a period when there were only 8 weight divisions & one championship belt (compared to 17 weight classes & 5 "championship belts" today). There was also a lot more competition. This means every division was much deeper, and it was more difficult to win the world championship. This man had power in both hands, speed, timing, ring IQ, creativity, heart, a good chin (never KO'd), great footwork & athleticism. Trivia: He was so good that the term "pound-for-pound" was created to describe his abilities. He's also the inventor of the concept of the entourage, lol.
@@posttenebras2812 It was vs the Raging Bull at welterweight. If you are the best ever, and a loss has to sneak in, thats nothing to be ashamed of for one of the greatest ever lol. He avenged it 5x including with the Valentines Day Massacre.
@@shkotayd9749 that was a no contest, technically not a loss. And it was vs the light heavyweight champion, he was leading on all scorecards, it's a shame the heat stopped him.
@@marricksinon2057 On Rays record: "41 Loss 40-1 United States Jake LaMotta UD 10 Feb 5, 1943 21 years, 278 days United States Olympia Stadium, Detroit, Michigan, U.S."
SRR went 43-0, had one loss, then went on a 76-fight winning streak across multiple weight categories. The man fought three fights in three weeks in three different european countries, against each country's reigning champion. He won all of those fights. What an absolute legend. It's amazing to see someone have so much talent and work so hard with every fight.
9:46 as funny as that is, that was a big component of Sugar Ray’s style. His skill as a finisher wasn’t so much based on his natural power, as it was based on his ability to figure out when to open up and throw with 100% commitment. We always hear how you shouldn’t load up and put everything in your punches, but there are moments when wild haymakers can land, and Ray Robinson excelled at finding those moments
@@c.galindo9639 Robinson vs Fulmer 1.. That knockout shows this beautifully .. . One of the reasons sugar robinson will always be the P4P best ever... Is he could hit you with both hands just as powerful... Like the left hook he landed on Fulmer who had never been knocked out till that fight.. SRR left was a hammer and his right was the sickle... The communist flag should just have sugar ray Robinsons face on it and people would know what it means. "The hammer and the sickle" is what I refer to sugar as
those footage of him throwing haymakers was back from his amateur golden gloves days when he was 18-20 yrs old and he was throwing those on already beat up opponents. haymakers were never really part of his arsenal in his professional career.
Sugar Ray Robinson and Roberto Duran are my two favourite boxers of all time, but undoubtedly Sugar is the greatest. Fought every week nearly of his career and look beautiful doing it.
I love how excited you got over the doubled-up body shots. So unprofessional and out of character, but not worth criticising because of both comedic value, and the fact that we can relate way too easily. Nice to see a different version of you having fun with this...
@@ihavetubes Idk how many in a year, but I can say he had about 3 to 5 fights in just a month alone during his BOXING TOUR! The man went on a boxing tour lol #TheGOAT #CreatorOfThePFP
@@ihavetubes depends on what year but average of 5 fights a year. In his first 2 years as a pro, he already had 40 fights. But what impress me actually is not how busy he is but how busy he is and yet his still facing tough oppositions consistently.
FINALLY!😀 I have been REALLY looking forward to a second Robinson breakdown and you did an exceptional job at it! You really are the best of your kind on RUclips. If you could, I would love for you to do a second breakdown on Joe Louis next, as he also used parries and stiff-arms at long range, as well as constant angle changes during combinations. I think a second breakdown on Louis could be VERY interesting.
Definitely one of if not the very best breakdown on skills and fighting styles On RUclips, the quality can easily translate to a sports show like ESPN or DAZN in my humble opinion.
"Look at that, that just looks awesome." TMMA - describing Ray Robinson's double hook to the body and hook to the head. Love the way you do such an in depth analysis on great fighters from the past & present and still remain the excited fan. Great job as usual.
@@tanksgameing8507 The list was created because of Robinson. Everyone who is and has ever been on the list were/are being compared to him. He's widely considered to be the greatest boxer of all time; he set the standard. Look it up for yourself bruh.
@@tanksgameing8507seriously dude…you really don’t know anything about boxing… 🤦🏻 The P4P list exists because of SRR, it’s to rank/measure all boxers who are on the list by their skill level, hence the fact that SRR earned the title of “the perfect fighter”. There isn’t anyone who could ever touch his level or league or take his place as number one on the P4P list.
Man, I wish I'd have had access to this channel back when I was fighting. I had to learn a lot of this the hard way, and theres tons more that I never did figure out.
I know right. This generation is so lucky and yet I feel like not enough people are taking advantage of it. There are entire film studies and fighter breakdowns uploaded on youtube, and so many good coaching videos from world-class trainers and former world champions. So many free fights as well to study from, even amateur championships are available. It feels like cheating.
Damn. I am always jealous of SRR’s hooks. So quick and powerful. Pure athleticism at its finest. How he made it look so easily shows why he is considered the best P4P boxer ever. He just is so great and awe inspiring
For me, it's not pure athleticism but skills. There are lots of great boxers who is as athletic or even more athletic than Sugar Ray but still no one can do his perfect punches.
@@Lonelysportofboxing Same here. Eddie Futch once said that Burley and Holman Williams are the most skillful fighters he's ever seen. He would rather watch Williams shadow box than watch most boxers fights.
Goat of goats 🐐🐐🐐 Also keep in mind the videos are actually of him past his prime. He’s in his 30’s by then and sports medicine was archaic compared to today. Incredible champion.
Sad part is the first 10 years of his fights were lost and too damaged… I believe there was a fire, just imagine watching him for the first decade of his career completely destroying people .. possibly looking even faster n stronger and more flexible
There is 2 fights of him in his prime (1946), and footage of him in the Golden Gloves all available on RUclips but sadly it was nowhere near the level of his best fights in his prime.
Awesome, thank you so much. My grandpa always said, although there have been some great ones, Ray Robinson was pretty clearly the greatest pound for pound. Wish we had more footage of his early days of dominance.
Ali was right. Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest pound for pound fighter of all time. I read in a biography that Robinson in his prime fought 4 top fighters of lightweight and middleweight divisions in just 18 days. That's just superhuman. It's a shame we can't watch him in his prime and appreciate his greatness.
GREATEST 10 MINS OF BOXING IN HISTORY!!!!!! I CANT NAME 1 FIGHTER OF ANY ERA WHO WOULDVE BEAT THIS MAN IN HIS PRIME AND REMATCHING RAY TAKES YEARS OFF YOUR CAREER
The Jazz Boxer. That's what this video highlights to me. He was a jazz dancer in the ring. He literally had 'jazz hands', and the footwork and movement to match it. The music in his movements made his opponents fall asleep, lulling them into submission with his pace. The violent tangoist, indeed. Truly the pound for pound greatest. No wonder Ali bowed to him.
"Even when his opponents backed away, he'd catch them with a leaping gazelle hook." You say this like it's easy. Like you can just bang out a gazelle hook after an exchange of 4-5 punches! That man did things that shouldn't be possible. 🤣
Well I’d you your opponent is retreating from the exchange than he is not likely to try to counter you if you throw the gazelle hook. The only reason your opponent would be retreating from the exchange would be because he is hurt or gassed out, either way he is not in a position to counter. It is a good time to throw a gazelle hook.
@@myrillionissilly My point is that if you’re opponent is hurt/tired and retreating from the exchange, he won’t be thinking about countering the load up of the Gazelle hook. When your opponent is compromised it is pretty safe to load up on your shots. Look at Mike Tyson, Marvin Hagler, and Ray Robinson, they all threw their gazelle hooks when their opponents were compromised, either by throwing it immediately after slipping one of their punches so they are off balance (Tyson), by changing stances before loading up to confuse them (Hagler), or by throwing when the opponent is retreating (Robinson). These are the times where loading up on shots is not a bad idea.
@@myrillionissilly I guess it's became a habit 🤔 A habit that's both good and bad. Good cause it may lead to a knockout but bad for your cardio Hard2Hurt made a video about his biggest pet peeve that even pro fighters do which was about little breaks that are unnecessary when you can still throw more shots since there's an opening
Imitation is the greatest honor. So many have tried to fight like sugar ray, yet there's only 1. Ali was right, pound for pound Robinson was the greatest! What a great video David Christian. As always, you smashed so I smashed the like. Damn, your channel is so damn fun. Seriously!
I've always said sugar ray Robinson is the best boxer ever, then Ali then iron mike but they're all legends that would give eachother the best fights in history
What a great video! The first time I've ever seen a real breakdown of SRR skills. Everything I've seen before of him just looks like a guy with no defence throwing hooks from his waist. Fantastic, thank you.
Great breakdown. I'll watch that more than once. My old PAL boxing coach used to practically tear up when he talked about Robinson. He was a perfect fighter.
more like JUST ali. because ali is the only heavyweight who fought on his tippy toes like sugar ray robinson. did tyson fight on his toes? no planted feet. did roy jones fight on his to- NOPE! planted feet. did sonny liston fight on his ti- NOPE! planted feet. did goerg- NOPE! planted feet. why is the only heavyweight on the planet who can move like a lightweight IS ALI! period. thats why heavyweights are boring to watch they are too scared to fight like a lightweight boxer or something. like using the energy to stay on tippy toes is just TOO MUCH for fighters like tyson or liston. its always planted feet so thats why i always never watched. heavyweights need to change before you EVER compare them to sugar ray robinson, sugar robinson would make every heavyweight look like a grandma because they have the speed of one.
Except Ali couldn’t crack an egg with either hand , had to tire you out and hit you a ton witch he could , ray had serious power at welter and even middle weight.
Now they go in for 15 minutes or so, maybe up to 30 (10 rds) and win or lose, they collect the dough and say "Thank You, see ya in about a year" like assholes, Lol
Even more insane, he took a mid-career retirement and was out of the sport for years and still racked up those numbers. He also took a shorter break later in his career before making another comeback, IIRC.
@@thewandering01 I wouldn't mind doing an essay on the old-time boxers far more interesten in boxing than these money hungry fools that put the $$$ first. Some so-so boxers today do box a lot because they don't know anything else. A lot of gyuys retiring at 38 after 20 years and 120+ fight in those years. Ali fought 61 times, but fought all the giants, and a shortened tank called "Smokin' Joe". 49-0 Rocky M. started kind of late and fought for 9 years (I Think). I didn't know about Wilder or Fury until 3 or 4 years ago. I'm sorry, but in the '70's Tyson Fury would be the local punching bag and alright to spar. I don't know enough about Wilder and Fury, so I guess I'm not being mature. But, when do those guys fight again, and if it's not each other who's going to care?
Except most of his fights were tomato cans. Even heavyweights of that era didn't fought that much because they were generally fighting better competition.
Great video and analysis. I love Ali largely because I see so much similarities with Sugar Ray. But Robinson had so much more in terms of trap setting and sheer knock out power. Nobody, In my opinion has come close. Thanks for mentioning Armstrong. He is another favorite of mine. Great Job!
I don’t know why the greatest boxer of any division is still debated. Ray Robinson was the greatest there will never be anyone like him he was phenomenal
My favorite boxer. A champion of champions. He didn't always get fair treatment from the referee and judges. His fights with Fuller and Basilio were incredible! I would have liked to see Robinson have a rematch with Maxum. Robinson was winning that fight.
No one can switch from pure boxing to absolute puncher as quick as Ray Ps Ali footwork was also influenced by Willy Patrano who trained at Ali’s 5th Street and also trained under Angelo Dundee
I don't even think LaMotta knew what was happening half the time. His chin and instincts kept him from dropping. Im certain of that. Cuz NOBODY ELSE could've sustained that kind of onslaught from SRR
@@poweroftheriff There are videos of him in his prime, terrible quality though wich is a tragedy ruclips.net/video/Fpoz05nQ1vA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/RcyqmnXNY-w/видео.html
Well, for me it's not. The biggest tragedy is HE COULD HAVE BEEN GREATER THAN HE ALREADY IS BUT NOT. If Sammy Anggott just depended his lightweight world title in their first fight and if he fought Maxim in a different day, he could have been the first and only boxer to win a world title from Lightweight to Light Heavyweight.
Those kidney punches of Ray hurt me just looking at them,I gotta give you props Modern Martial Artist, you must do something to enhance your video footage because you always have clear OLD footage, I've seen alot of old fights and most the time you can't see nothing but two guys just blurring around the ring in a flurry of swinging arms, your videos I can see that old footage very clearly 🙂, your precise explanations and narration are clear and detailed, kudos my MMA, your videos are ART. Subscribed.
I think he had the skills and the height to become heavyweight champion. But from what I understand, he mainly just wanted his training to focus on sparring, not on calisthenics or anything else specifically meant for building strength and muscle. I'd bet if he focused on hill sprints to build up his legs, that could have put him into the heavyweight division. And imagine what he could do if he used the strength building techniques of Rocky Marciano, Archie Moore, Sonny Liston, Cleveland Williams, Earnie Shavers and George Foreman: hitting a 300 lb punching bag, chopping wood, pushing a wheelbarrow full of rocks up a hill repeatedly, shoveling rocks and digging holes...
My favorite Boxer of all time, Him & Muhammad Ali Sugar Ray was a beast at Welterweight, Held the title for 4 to 5 years, but sadly there was no recorded footage of his prime years. He was pretty good at Middleweight, 3x Champion of that weight division
During his active days, Robinson is actually considered the uncrowned world lightweight champion since he beat then reigning NBA world Lightweight Champion Sammy Anggott 4x. It was supposed to be a world title fight but Anggott won't dare try to risk his title to then 20 years old Sugar Ray Robinson. And actually he won the World Middleweight Titles 5x. The first and so far the only boxer to do that in the division's history.
@@bhg582 here's my take, srr has way better skill when it comes to fighting, Floyd has very high boxing iq. Big difference, put these two in a mma cage im betting on srr 100 times out of 10.
sugar ray robinson had the style and moves of a dancer, and finally he became that I think. Best of all, he had all plus the harmony of power and flow like nobody maybe that I have seen yet in boxing. Cheers from argentina.
It's interesting to note how similar Ali's style was to Robinson. I think Ali might have perfected Robinson's style with the addition of lighting fast speed at the heavyweight class, but this style is right up there as the most effective boxing style along with the peek-a-boo boxing.
Ali didn't perfect it because he lacked some of Robinson's Inside fighting and the Power Punches to the body. Outside of the jab to the body Ali rarely attacked the body and didn't have as great of an offense in close.
Sugar Ray Robinson was a way better fundamentaly/technical boxer and more complete. Superior inside fighter and body puncher. Ali had better footwork and inhuman reflexes
I enjoy all your videos so much. I appreciate the time and effort you put into these gems🙏🏾. Every time I rewatch one of your videos I always gain a better understanding or find something new to make myself a better boxer!
These are some of the best videos I have seen here on you tube. You always focus on the fighter’s strength’s. Have you ever done one where it highlights their flaws?
Amazing video! I would love to see more of the boxers of this era as well. You covered Gene Fullmer, but how about Randy Turpin or Jake Lamotta? The guys that beat Robinson? Very interesting styles.
For me what made SRR so great was that he could take as much punishment as he dished out. He was as tough as the toughest guys in that era. His KO of Gene Fullmer is the best lefthook ever!
How much better would this explanation have been if we had footage of Ray in his prime? The sweet science? He was sweet as sugar. One thing different about Ali and Sugar is when they put a man down, Ali always raised his arms in triumphant victory, Sweet sugar would just walk away like nothing even happened, so cool 😎. I know alot of your future opponents watch your fight films and find weaknesses, I wonder if Ray's fights not being filmed helped in his career?, no films, no weaknesses exposed.
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I really enjoy all your work but can you do a breakdown like this on Roberto Duran his style it’s so fascinating to me
Awesome tactics and breakdown.... 🎊🤡
I want to hear more on the perspective from Dan Carlin's recent EP23 "Boxing with Ghosts" on the (likely) decline of the art or science of boxing.
Pls make a video on gene tunney's boxing style.
@brolyssj8507no fight no wear near like Joe Louis
What’s scary is that his prime as a welterweight was never filmed properly.
Scary, and such a shame
He was so fast that the footages were useless since no one could see anything, thats why there are only fights of him out of his prime
@they say he is so fast that they couldnt capture him in a flim
There are videos of Sugar Ray Robinson in his prime, but with terrible quality unfortunately
Absolute Tragedy
Missing more than half his career on film...and the greatest fights were at Welterweight
It's like not hearing half of Mozart's compositions but knowing they existed
Sugar Ray retired after going on a run of 128-1 (84 KOs) & capturing the welterweight & middleweight titles. He came back 3 years later, recaptured his title, and fought for 12 more years, finally ending his career with 174 wins & 19 losses (109 KOs).
His competition was the best in boxing history - 18 world champs & 10 Hall of Famers. His career spanned 25 years during a period when there were only 8 weight divisions & one championship belt (compared to 17 weight classes & 5 "championship belts" today). There was also a lot more competition. This means every division was much deeper, and it was more difficult to win the world championship.
This man had power in both hands, speed, timing, ring IQ, creativity, heart, a good chin (never KO'd), great footwork & athleticism.
Trivia: He was so good that the term "pound-for-pound" was created to describe his abilities. He's also the inventor of the concept of the entourage, lol.
And if I remember correctly that 1 loss in the 129 fights was outdoors on a night that was so hot and humid he eventually couldn’t even stand up.
@@posttenebras2812 It was vs the Raging Bull at welterweight. If you are the best ever, and a loss has to sneak in, thats nothing to be ashamed of for one of the greatest ever lol. He avenged it 5x including with the Valentines Day Massacre.
@@posttenebras2812 I believe that loss happened later, but Sugar Ray was leading on all scorecards when he succumbed to the heat.
@@shkotayd9749 that was a no contest, technically not a loss. And it was vs the light heavyweight champion, he was leading on all scorecards, it's a shame the heat stopped him.
@@marricksinon2057 On Rays record:
"41 Loss 40-1 United States Jake LaMotta UD 10 Feb 5, 1943 21 years, 278 days United States Olympia Stadium, Detroit, Michigan, U.S."
SRR went 43-0, had one loss, then went on a 76-fight winning streak across multiple weight categories.
The man fought three fights in three weeks in three different european countries, against each country's reigning champion.
He won all of those fights.
What an absolute legend. It's amazing to see someone have so much talent and work so hard with every fight.
Actually, 40-0. he lost for the first time to rival Jake LaMotta. Then went 89-0-2, 55 KO's in his next 91/92 fights.
He was a beast and a gentleman as well
@@soposh5673 probably
That's why 50-0 ain't squat.
Maybe your math is ridiculous but how are you 43 and 0 with one loss
9:46 as funny as that is, that was a big component of Sugar Ray’s style. His skill as a finisher wasn’t so much based on his natural power, as it was based on his ability to figure out when to open up and throw with 100% commitment. We always hear how you shouldn’t load up and put everything in your punches, but there are moments when wild haymakers can land, and Ray Robinson excelled at finding those moments
Freaking genius, what I would do without RUclips comments 🙏🏾🥊
Yeah. It’s shown how he knows when to throw wide and when not to. He was a master at it
@@c.galindo9639 Robinson vs Fulmer 1.. That knockout shows this beautifully .. . One of the reasons sugar robinson will always be the P4P best ever... Is he could hit you with both hands just as powerful... Like the left hook he landed on Fulmer who had never been knocked out till that fight.. SRR left was a hammer and his right was the sickle... The communist flag should just have sugar ray Robinsons face on it and people would know what it means. "The hammer and the sickle" is what I refer to sugar as
those footage of him throwing haymakers was back from his amateur golden gloves days when he was 18-20 yrs old and he was throwing those on already beat up opponents. haymakers were never really part of his arsenal in his professional career.
@@MoejiiOsmanTV maybe I'm misremembering but isn't it the second fight he knocked out Fullmer?
And lost the first fight?
The man who forced the P4P list to even exist
Underrated comment. Greatly.
Really... did know that
Wow
Lies again? Never Defeated Plex Flex
@@NazriBokay. Who is Plex Flex?
Whats so crazy is this was all instinctively built inside of him. He was not even thinking, only reacting and flowing. Absolutely mind blowing
There'll simply never be another like him. Great analysis.
Sugar Ray Robinson and Roberto Duran are my two favourite boxers of all time, but undoubtedly Sugar is the greatest. Fought every week nearly of his career and look beautiful doing it.
I love how excited you got over the doubled-up body shots. So unprofessional and out of character, but not worth criticising because of both comedic value, and the fact that we can relate way too easily. Nice to see a different version of you having fun with this...
I had some knowledge of Sugar Ray Robinson. And i knew he was a legend. But man.... he had 200+ fights IN BOXING. 174 wins....
Yes an from what I saw didn't show too many signs of CTE in his later years
The real question is how many fights did he have in a year?
@@ihavetubes Idk how many in a year, but I can say he had about 3 to 5 fights in just a month alone during his BOXING TOUR!
The man went on a boxing tour lol
#TheGOAT #CreatorOfThePFP
@@ihavetubes depends on what year but average of 5 fights a year. In his first 2 years as a pro, he already had 40 fights. But what impress me actually is not how busy he is but how busy he is and yet his still facing tough oppositions consistently.
109 of his wins were Knock outs!
FINALLY!😀 I have been REALLY looking forward to a second Robinson breakdown and you did an exceptional job at it! You really are the best of your kind on RUclips. If you could, I would love for you to do a second breakdown on Joe Louis next, as he also used parries and stiff-arms at long range, as well as constant angle changes during combinations. I think a second breakdown on Louis could be VERY interesting.
makes sense they had the same legendary trainer
Definitely one of if not the very best breakdown on skills and fighting styles On RUclips, the quality can easily translate to a sports show like ESPN or DAZN in my humble opinion.
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@@coachingconfidant2785 which trainer?
@@TheSweetestScience Jack Blackburn
I heard a lot of great things about Robinson but didn't know much about him. This video changed that, thanks
"Look at that, that just looks awesome." TMMA - describing Ray Robinson's double hook to the body and hook to the head. Love the way you do such an in depth analysis on great fighters from the past & present and still remain the excited fan. Great job as usual.
The GOAT! This guy is the reason why the pound-for-pound list was created!! 💪🏿✊🏿🥊🔥
I truly never seen Beauty and Power come together so nicely.
The pound-for-pound was created by guys who had no losses
@@tanksgameing8507 The list was created because of Robinson. Everyone who is and has ever been on the list were/are being compared to him. He's widely considered to be the greatest boxer of all time; he set the standard. Look it up for yourself bruh.
@@tanksgameing8507 No that's not true
@@tanksgameing8507seriously dude…you really don’t know anything about boxing… 🤦🏻
The P4P list exists because of SRR, it’s to rank/measure all boxers who are on the list by their skill level, hence the fact that SRR earned the title of “the perfect fighter”. There isn’t anyone who could ever touch his level or league or take his place as number one on the P4P list.
Man, I wish I'd have had access to this channel back when I was fighting. I had to learn a lot of this the hard way, and theres tons more that I never did figure out.
I know right. This generation is so lucky and yet I feel like not enough people are taking advantage of it. There are entire film studies and fighter breakdowns uploaded on youtube, and so many good coaching videos from world-class trainers and former world champions. So many free fights as well to study from, even amateur championships are available. It feels like cheating.
@@cheekcake779 I'm a young fighter and I've been taking advantage of this stuff for 8 years now
what did you learn? please get back to me also i box and im new to it and not even 3 months in and im getting better
Damn. I am always jealous of SRR’s hooks. So quick and powerful. Pure athleticism at its finest. How he made it look so easily shows why he is considered the best P4P boxer ever.
He just is so great and awe inspiring
For me, it's not pure athleticism but skills. There are lots of great boxers who is as athletic or even more athletic than Sugar Ray but still no one can do his perfect punches.
@@ralphdupas6179 yup. He really is one of a kind
The man .the myth. the legend Suger ray Robinson the goat pound for pound boxer of all the time
Or Charlie burley !
@@serenityinside1 Charlie Burley was so good. I wish there was more fights of him.
@@Lonelysportofboxing Same here. Eddie Futch once said that Burley and Holman Williams are the most skillful fighters he's ever seen. He would rather watch Williams shadow box than watch most boxers fights.
Goat of goats 🐐🐐🐐
Also keep in mind the videos are actually of him past his prime. He’s in his 30’s by then and sports medicine was archaic compared to today. Incredible champion.
The scariest thing about Raging Bull, he fought the greatest ever, three times.
Sad part is the first 10 years of his fights were lost and too damaged… I believe there was a fire, just imagine watching him for the first decade of his career completely destroying people .. possibly looking even faster n stronger and more flexible
There is 2 fights of him in his prime (1946), and footage of him in the Golden Gloves all available on RUclips but sadly it was nowhere near the level of his best fights in his prime.
We need at least 20 minutes on this legend
I just learned he was Ali's top inspiration
@@EGbean2 yup
ill break his records one day with out losing once
Awesome, thank you so much. My grandpa always said, although there have been some great ones, Ray Robinson was pretty clearly the greatest pound for pound. Wish we had more footage of his early days of dominance.
I was waiting for this one, if you ever get the chance to, would love to see Alexis arguello v Aaron Pryor
"Gimme the black bottle, the other one, the one that i mixed"
He already did it
@@asheru9254 When?
Ali was right. Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest pound for pound fighter of all time. I read in a biography that Robinson in his prime fought 4 top fighters of lightweight and middleweight divisions in just 18 days. That's just superhuman. It's a shame we can't watch him in his prime and appreciate his greatness.
The way Robinson whipped his looping punches is almost unseen now. Beautiful work
GREATEST 10 MINS OF BOXING IN HISTORY!!!!!! I CANT NAME 1 FIGHTER OF ANY ERA WHO WOULDVE BEAT THIS MAN IN HIS PRIME AND REMATCHING RAY TAKES YEARS OFF YOUR CAREER
Great work David. I'm constantly surprised that SRR doesn't feature in more videos.
Why? I mean why are you surprised?
@@sidhu139 Because he was so good.
My man was out there fighting like he had the power of god and anime on his side.
I could totally picture a neckbeard with a body pillow threatening to destroy me because he has the power of anime on his side
The Jazz Boxer. That's what this video highlights to me.
He was a jazz dancer in the ring. He literally had 'jazz hands', and the footwork and movement to match it. The music in his movements made his opponents fall asleep, lulling them into submission with his pace. The violent tangoist, indeed.
Truly the pound for pound greatest. No wonder Ali bowed to him.
Goddamn, bro. Langston Hughes is that you?
Glad to see we are getting a more in depth video of the greatest. Have you ever considered covering Barrera vs Morales 1 or Gatti vs Ward 1?
Gatti Ward was unbelievable
@@fabioasterix750 I was young at the time. Captivated me and got me into boxing
@@mrg6185 Wow. True inspiration
Please breakdown the first Barrera Morales fight!!
David has an attitude problem. It's been ten months and he hasn't even bothered to reply to your comment.
Still looks better than most modern fighters. Absolutely the GOAT.
"Even when his opponents backed away, he'd catch them with a leaping gazelle hook."
You say this like it's easy. Like you can just bang out a gazelle hook after an exchange of 4-5 punches! That man did things that shouldn't be possible. 🤣
Well I’d you your opponent is retreating from the exchange than he is not likely to try to counter you if you throw the gazelle hook. The only reason your opponent would be retreating from the exchange would be because he is hurt or gassed out, either way he is not in a position to counter. It is a good time to throw a gazelle hook.
@@jameslough6329 yes, but throwing it isn't easy when you're done with an exchange as you need a good load up to throw a gazelle hook.
Watch his fights with Sammy Angott, in the first round, he literally threw three left hooks while moving backwards.
@@myrillionissilly My point is that if you’re opponent is hurt/tired and retreating from the exchange, he won’t be thinking about countering the load up of the Gazelle hook. When your opponent is compromised it is pretty safe to load up on your shots. Look at Mike Tyson, Marvin Hagler, and Ray Robinson, they all threw their gazelle hooks when their opponents were compromised, either by throwing it immediately after slipping one of their punches so they are off balance (Tyson), by changing stances before loading up to confuse them (Hagler), or by throwing when the opponent is retreating (Robinson). These are the times where loading up on shots is not a bad idea.
@@myrillionissilly I guess it's became a habit 🤔
A habit that's both good and bad. Good cause it may lead to a knockout but bad for your cardio
Hard2Hurt made a video about his biggest pet peeve that even pro fighters do which was about little breaks that are unnecessary when you can still throw more shots since there's an opening
Damn, I was just watching Robinson's highlights. Thanks for the video
Imitation is the greatest honor. So many have tried to fight like sugar ray, yet there's only 1. Ali was right, pound for pound Robinson was the greatest! What a great video David Christian. As always, you smashed so I smashed the like. Damn, your channel is so damn fun. Seriously!
I have to say once again- your analyses of boxers/matches etc are masterful. No one has the level of detailed insights that you provide.
I've always said sugar ray Robinson is the best boxer ever, then Ali then iron mike but they're all legends that would give eachother the best fights in history
What a great video! The first time I've ever seen a real breakdown of SRR skills. Everything I've seen before of him just looks like a guy with no defence throwing hooks from his waist. Fantastic, thank you.
The last video you did do last time(years ago) didn't stand with the quality of the recent videos.... I'm glad you revisited him
Great breakdown. I'll watch that more than once. My old PAL boxing coach used to practically tear up when he talked about Robinson. He was a perfect fighter.
Ali, Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. walk into a bar and merge into a single boxer.
great! you are spot on.
Spot on
But he came before all of them?
more like JUST ali. because ali is the only heavyweight who fought on his tippy toes like sugar ray robinson. did tyson fight on his toes? no planted feet. did roy jones fight on his to- NOPE! planted feet. did sonny liston fight on his ti- NOPE! planted feet. did goerg- NOPE! planted feet. why is the only heavyweight on the planet who can move like a lightweight IS ALI! period. thats why heavyweights are boring to watch they are too scared to fight like a lightweight boxer or something. like using the energy to stay on tippy toes is just TOO MUCH for fighters like tyson or liston. its always planted feet so thats why i always never watched. heavyweights need to change before you EVER compare them to sugar ray robinson, sugar robinson would make every heavyweight look like a grandma because they have the speed of one.
Except Ali couldn’t crack an egg with either hand , had to tire you out and hit you a ton witch he could , ray had serious power at welter and even middle weight.
201 professional fights over 22 years. That's a fight approximately every six weeks. Insane what boxers use to go through.
Now they go in for 15 minutes or so, maybe up to 30 (10 rds) and win or lose, they collect the dough and say "Thank You, see ya in about a year" like assholes, Lol
Even more insane, he took a mid-career retirement and was out of the sport for years and still racked up those numbers. He also took a shorter break later in his career before making another comeback, IIRC.
@@thewandering01 I wouldn't mind doing an essay on the old-time boxers far more interesten in boxing than these money hungry fools that put the $$$ first. Some so-so boxers today do box a lot because they don't know anything else. A lot of gyuys retiring at 38 after 20 years and 120+ fight in those years. Ali fought 61 times, but fought all the giants, and a shortened tank called "Smokin' Joe". 49-0 Rocky M. started kind of late and fought for 9 years (I Think).
I didn't know about Wilder or Fury until 3 or 4 years ago. I'm sorry, but in the '70's Tyson Fury would be the local punching bag and alright to spar. I don't know enough about Wilder and Fury, so I guess I'm not being mature. But, when do those guys fight again, and if it's not each other who's going to care?
Except most of his fights were tomato cans. Even heavyweights of that era didn't fought that much because they were generally fighting better competition.
Great video and analysis. I love Ali largely because I see so much similarities with Sugar Ray. But Robinson had so much more in terms of trap setting and sheer knock out power. Nobody, In my opinion has come close. Thanks for mentioning Armstrong. He is another favorite of mine. Great Job!
Been waiting for this one for a long time, and boy it didn't disappoint! Great breakdown! SRR was a genius and without a doubt, the GOAT.
7:56 there's all this professional talk and then there's this moment right here
Hehe I love this guy
I don’t know why the greatest boxer of any division is still debated.
Ray Robinson was the greatest there will never be anyone like him he was phenomenal
My favorite boxer. A champion of champions. He didn't always get fair treatment from the referee and judges. His fights with Fuller and Basilio were incredible! I would have liked to see Robinson have a rematch with Maxum. Robinson was winning that fight.
You've got your names mixed up. Fullmer was the guy who fought Sugar Ray, while Mr. Fuller was your high school maths teacher.
I really liked your musical metaphor at the beginning. Perfectly complimented the video samples. Nice work.
It blows my mind that someone hasn't made a film about this legend yet.
Amazing breakdown of SRR, very detailed and precise!
No one can switch from pure boxing to absolute puncher as quick as Ray
Ps Ali footwork was also influenced by Willy Patrano who trained at Ali’s 5th Street and also trained under Angelo Dundee
Most boxing historians would say Sugar ray Robinson is the GOAT 🐐
You do not know how long i have been waiting for this video thank you for making it
Then tell us.....how long you've been waiting.
it's odd that a video about Robinson makes me appreciate that much more how LaMotta stayed conscious during that beating he took against him.
I don't even think LaMotta knew what was happening half the time. His chin and instincts kept him from dropping. Im certain of that. Cuz NOBODY ELSE could've sustained that kind of onslaught from SRR
I've gotta watch Jake again.
The way Ali praises Sugar Ray out of not just his effectiveness, but his aesthetic elegance. Nobody got that kind of compliments from him.
Love the pinch of humor at the end. More please!
His style was so aggressive and menacing!
i've been waiting for this video for while. Very excited.
Pound for pound, I’m the greatest heavyweight of all time. But the pound for pound greatest of all time is Sugar Ray Robinson- Muhammad Ali
the biggest tragedy of all is most of sugar rays fights are not on film
Ikr😔
Everything on film is after he turned 29 years old, imagine what he fought like at 25!
@@poweroftheriff There are videos of him in his prime, terrible quality though wich is a tragedy
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Well, for me it's not. The biggest tragedy is HE COULD HAVE BEEN GREATER THAN HE ALREADY IS BUT NOT. If Sammy Anggott just depended his lightweight world title in their first fight and if he fought Maxim in a different day, he could have been the first and only boxer to win a world title from Lightweight to Light Heavyweight.
The true G.O.A.T. of boxing
Sugar Ray one man orchestra in the ring.
To have such complete control over your body is so impressive. The man could do it all. Always perfect
Those kidney punches of Ray hurt me just looking at them,I gotta give you props Modern Martial Artist, you must do something to enhance your video footage because you always have clear OLD footage, I've seen alot of old fights and most the time you can't see nothing but two guys just blurring around the ring in a flurry of swinging arms, your videos I can see that old footage very clearly 🙂, your precise explanations and narration are clear and detailed, kudos my MMA, your videos are ART. Subscribed.
Finally!!!!! Our prayers have been answered
Suga ray was a beast, i was looking at your vids and was hoping you would do a vid on him
I think he had the skills and the height to become heavyweight champion. But from what I understand, he mainly just wanted his training to focus on sparring, not on calisthenics or anything else specifically meant for building strength and muscle.
I'd bet if he focused on hill sprints to build up his legs, that could have put him into the heavyweight division. And imagine what he could do if he used the strength building techniques of Rocky Marciano, Archie Moore, Sonny Liston, Cleveland Williams, Earnie Shavers and George Foreman: hitting a 300 lb punching bag, chopping wood, pushing a wheelbarrow full of rocks up a hill repeatedly, shoveling rocks and digging holes...
My favorite Boxer of all time, Him & Muhammad Ali
Sugar Ray was a beast at Welterweight, Held the title for 4 to 5 years, but sadly there was no recorded footage of his prime years. He was pretty good at Middleweight, 3x Champion of that weight division
During his active days, Robinson is actually considered the uncrowned world lightweight champion since he beat then reigning NBA world Lightweight Champion Sammy Anggott 4x. It was supposed to be a world title fight but Anggott won't dare try to risk his title to then 20 years old Sugar Ray Robinson.
And actually he won the World Middleweight Titles 5x. The first and so far the only boxer to do that in the division's history.
The man’s boxing iq was just something I don’t think will ever been seen again in boxing. Absolutely impeccable
It's a little obvious that boxing iq can only be seen in boxing.
mayweather?
@@bhg582 here's my take, srr has way better skill when it comes to fighting, Floyd has very high boxing iq. Big difference, put these two in a mma cage im betting on srr 100 times out of 10.
sugar ray robinson had the style and moves of a dancer, and finally he became that I think. Best of all, he had all plus the harmony of power and flow like nobody maybe that I have seen yet in boxing. Cheers from argentina.
Wow man, that was amazing to see.
Scary thing about him is that he trusted his chin to apply his skills.
Great video , thanks a lot , I really like the way you build your videos , entertaining and interesting, super great job
Can we just take a moment to appreciate that buddy always drops low key bars in these videos?
Yes, we can.
It's interesting to note how similar Ali's style was to Robinson. I think Ali might have perfected Robinson's style with the addition of lighting fast speed at the heavyweight class, but this style is right up there as the most effective boxing style along with the peek-a-boo boxing.
Ali mostly improved the footwork on robinson's style.
Ali didn't perfect it because he lacked some of Robinson's Inside fighting and the Power Punches to the body. Outside of the jab to the body Ali rarely attacked the body and didn't have as great of an offense in close.
@@combatsportlover6919 so basically Robinson was a fleet-footed boxer puncher?
@@Kwankrang yeah robinson was far more agressive than ali.
Sugar Ray Robinson was a way better fundamentaly/technical boxer and more complete. Superior inside fighter and body puncher. Ali had better footwork and inhuman reflexes
I enjoy all your videos so much. I appreciate the time and effort you put into these gems🙏🏾.
Every time I rewatch one of your videos I always gain a better understanding or find something new to make myself a better boxer!
There was Sugar Ray Robinson and then there is everyone else.. The 🐐
He wasn't just the goat. He was also a gazelle, a rhino and a tiger.
Where can I find more film like @0:06 where it looks 4K 60fps. It looks absolutely amazing snd brings more life to these old fighters
These are some of the best videos I have seen here on you tube. You always focus on the fighter’s strength’s. Have you ever done one where it highlights their flaws?
Add Floyd Patterson's deadly gizzelle hook
Love your soul for posting this. Stayyyyyyy MARRRVVVEEELLOOUUSSS my duuuddeeeee
0:35 what great sportsmanship 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. Tried to help the man off the ropes… after knocking him into them (and almost through them).
Awesome work my guy. Keep it up!
Most Greatest Pound to Pound man was ahead of his time
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Another great video, I'm trying to learn more about boxing and these videos are very helpfull.
The perfect definition of a boxer-puncher.
Amazing video! I would love to see more of the boxers of this era as well. You covered Gene Fullmer, but how about Randy Turpin or Jake Lamotta? The guys that beat Robinson? Very interesting styles.
I remember as a young man listening to Rocky G talking. But when he talked about Ray it was all respect that no other fighter got from him.
hey david please do another ray robinson breakdown
pretty please
For me what made SRR so great was that he could take as much punishment as he dished out. He was as tough as the toughest guys in that era.
His KO of Gene Fullmer is the best lefthook ever!
1:13 Damn , that was a bomb.
Another superb effort my friend. Very stimulating. Gonna try to employ his methods. Gotta learn from the all timers.
The quality of some of this footage 💕
You can't teach this level. You are born a genius, and that's the top and bottom of it.
How much better would this explanation have been if we had footage of Ray in his prime? The sweet science? He was sweet as sugar. One thing different about Ali and Sugar is when they put a man down, Ali always raised his arms in triumphant victory, Sweet sugar would just walk away like nothing even happened, so cool 😎.
I know alot of your future opponents watch your fight films and find weaknesses, I wonder if Ray's fights not being filmed helped in his career?, no films, no weaknesses exposed.
Robinson was never off balance. He was nasty on offense with aggressive defensive.
Such a great video. He's my favorite fighter of all time
He’s also the highest ranked boxer on Fight Night Champion (my favorite boxing game
Really enjoyed this!
very much obliged friend
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The way he tried to catch the dude falling through the ropes was awesome of him as a competitor.
Robinson vs Duran or Leonard or Pacquiao would’ve been some wars.